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McClaren Admits – This Job Is Getting Tougher By The Week

9:00 am, Sunday, November 29th, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 74 Comments

After the capitulation by Newcastle for the second game in a row – this time against Alan Pardew´s Crystal Palace in south London – it was always going to be difficult for Steve McClaren in his interviews after the game.

And it´s also not surprising that his face looked completely stressed out as his players again let him down and let Newcastle United down with another inept and gutless performance.

Steve and his players will be in training today and it’s more like a punishment for the players as Steve tries to find a way of wakening them all up and getting them to do something near to what their jobs are on the pitch.

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Steve McClaren – his body language tells it all

His job will depend on him being successful in doing that.

This is what Steve said in one of his interviews after the game – and he was obviously hurting:

“It’s not about ability, not about tactics or systems,” “It’s about doing your job, doing the basics. When we go behind or have disappointments in games we’re not refocusing on our jobs.”

“That’s about mentality and it’s just one of the things we have to work on with this group – we knew that when we came here.”

“I said to the players ‘back to work tomorrow morning. These players have got to come through this, but there’s no one more determined than myself to do that, starting tomorrow morning.”

“We hadn’t planned the extra session.” “I’m hurting, not as much for ourselves as for the fans,”

“We knew this was a tough job but it’s getting tougher by the week. 13 games gone, 25 to go and we know we’re in a relegation battle.”

It’s actually 14 games gone and 24 left to play.

It was a huge win for Alan Pardew and Crystal Palace as they are yet another team who have left Newcastle behind in their midst this year.

At least Pardew didn’t rub it in after the game – he was just pleased with what was a good performance from his side.

But he shouldn’t get too carried away either – he wasn’t playing much.

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74 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Grafton83 // Nov 29, 2015 at 9:04 AM

    Extra training will just annoy the players and cause more of a bad atmosphere. They will become more fragmented and distanced from the manager. To fight relegation you need a “we’re all in it together fighting approach”. We most certainly don’t have that. I think we will need to hit rock bottom (we’re close) before we get any kind of change. Can’t see a way abck for Steve judge me after 10 games McClaren.

  • 2 Ron Knee // Nov 29, 2015 at 9:13 AM

    I was going to add: What made Carr think a failed Championship manager would be a good fit at NUFC? Considering the sh*t we’re in, perhaps it’ll prove to be an inspired choice after all!

  • 3 posada // Nov 29, 2015 at 9:19 AM

    SM by now will realise the mistake he made by agreeing to work for the crazy gang.
    If you give up your principals for cash and a fat contract there is a price to pay.
    Your a wealthy man Steve. Resign and get some pride back.
    If you lie down with dogs …………..

  • 4 John Tudor // Nov 29, 2015 at 9:22 AM


  • 5 Lindisfarne // Nov 29, 2015 at 9:40 AM

    3 window project.

  • 6 Toon-Prodigy // Nov 29, 2015 at 9:47 AM

    Im just hoping with all this doom and gloom and poor performances forces Ashley into letting Carr go out and sign some top experienced Premier League players with leadership qualities.

    It has to be playing on Ashley’s mind all of that TV money that could be lost. He must know deep down the policies have to change. The whole country knows it.

    But we all know Mike likes a gamble.

  • 7 nut meg // Nov 29, 2015 at 10:00 AM

    I think they’re all living in denial. Next year will be my 60th year of following the toon and it could well be a relegation ….some thank you that is eh!

  • 8 welshgeordie9 // Nov 29, 2015 at 10:02 AM

    Is the job getting tougher for you then macca, bless his cotton socks, you knew it was going to be tough before you had the job you muppet, if that clown had any sense he would leave and take the rest of the muppets with him.

  • 9 sparky55 // Nov 29, 2015 at 10:08 AM

    There’s only one person who can stop this mess getting any worse and it’s the fat controller.

    He has to pass over control of this particular business to elite footballing people…not the bargain basement idiots he’s used up until now.

    There’s no point p!ss!ng away another 50 million on bad imports…he may as well spend 20 million on recruiting good management and 30 million of premiership experienced players to get us back on track and we build from there.

  • 10 sparky55 // Nov 29, 2015 at 10:10 AM

    Colo is not for for purpose and neither is the manager who gave him an extended contract.

    that one thing there was enough for me to realise he has no clue

  • 11 toon kk // Nov 29, 2015 at 10:11 AM

    I said before we even kicked a ball that Palace would rip us apart, and they did.
    Trouble is do a lot of fans know anymore than MA? I’m not so sure. Most on this blog had us top eight…. No chance.
    This season has been coming for some time, the majority of the players shouldn’t be anywhere near the premier league.
    All this sack nonsense, could people not see it was down to a badly scouted regime team? Pards knew the score long ago.
    we will go down, but it’s what’s needed to start over.

  • 12 Toon-Prodigy // Nov 29, 2015 at 10:21 AM

    Nut meg,

    Let’s hope not! They still have a window to get the correct players in to save the season and Mike has to act. Let’s just hope it’s on quality experienced players of this league. If Ashley would free some top wages up for quality players im sure we will be alreet, but no more of these cheap foreign imports on low wages raping the club on five year deals. Far too many not good enough taking up squad numbers.

  • 13 Average_Contents // Nov 29, 2015 at 10:23 AM


    It was a board decision.

    The thinking behind it- they couldn’t get a replacement defender of international quality (international quality, yeah right) for a decent price so decided colamity was still their man. Hence the one year extension with the option of a further year.

    Basically why shell out good money when in their eyes (stevie wonder) we already had one and we’ll just extend his contract.

    He’s also the captain and leader (lmfco) so again in their eyes they killed two birds with one stone.

    Shocking decision making of the highest order.

    Cheapest option is always first.

    Much like the fat slugs main love.

    Makes me fcuking sick mate.

  • 14 AncientC // Nov 29, 2015 at 10:23 AM

    “It’s not about ability, not about tactics or systems,”

    What can you really add to that?

    Football isn’t about tactics, ability or systems – not forgetting that a goalkeeper like Krul is worth an extra 20+ points a season.

  • 15 Average_Contents // Nov 29, 2015 at 10:26 AM

    I meant to add, allegedly a board decision.

    Even though the slugs no longer on the board it’s still his remit that the rest follow and it’s always cheapest first. If it doesn’t work we’ll muddle through. Won’t we chaps?

  • 16 AncientC // Nov 29, 2015 at 10:29 AM

    McClaren wants to tell us it’s not about tactics.

    Said the man that persisted with a 4-2-3-1 throughout preseason and into the new season, without attempting any variation, whatsoever.

    I think we got 1 game out of the 4-4-2 until McClaren deviated from the plan and had Janmaat playing as a wingback, then when that failed, he goes back to 4-2-3-1 again… the very formation that failed for more than 10 subsequent games.

    Anyways, yes, 4-2-3-1 and bringing on a defender for an attacker when behind in a game, it’s not about the tactics you know.

  • 17 Ron Knee // Nov 29, 2015 at 10:32 AM

    For the parasite, Charnley’s excuses must be wearing pretty thin now. I wonder if he’ll act.

  • 18 bladeuser // Nov 29, 2015 at 10:33 AM

    SO now most of u want SMAC to do one along with SMAC u lot are muppets
    Who just go along with what the other sheep preach on this blog some of us who don’t sit on the black and white fence knew from the start he was a dud but even stevie would have thought he could get somewhere with 50 Mil and the players that were left
    But they r spineless money grabbing wasters who even though SMAC is and never was upto the challenge and looks a defeated wimp these tossers will c Nufc relegated and out of the epl for years to come
    R I P NUFC
    COLO just F@@@ Off

  • 19 Slank // Nov 29, 2015 at 10:35 AM

    Toon-Prodigy @ 6

    Newcastle will not sign some top experienced Premier League players with leadership qualities because these players only join top Premier League clubs, of which we are not.

    It will not be playing on Ashley’s mind as the club is a minor and almost irrelevant revenue stream compared to his other interests. His history is that he doesn’t do knee jerks and is well known as being loyal to his senior employees. Therefore, don’t expect any changes.

    The whole country knows it. The whole country couldn’t care less.

  • 20 posada // Nov 29, 2015 at 10:37 AM

    Sparky at 9 and 10.
    Bang on.

  • 21 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Nov 29, 2015 at 10:41 AM

    Not far behind you 52 years for me – had many a dark day/season in the past but this season could end up the darkest season of all because all is not right at the club…
    And if the press boys know that something is amiss the should be letting the fans who pay the money week-in week-out what is going on.

    Because something has drastically changed since the Stoke game…
    should of won
    shite against Bournemouth got lucky.
    Leicester – shite
    yesterday the pits – can’t get much lower can we!!!!!!

  • 22 Ron Knee // Nov 29, 2015 at 10:50 AM

    I’ve been a supporter for over 60 years, and these are the darkest days I can remember.

    Good point. Why are we getting progressively worse?

    Prepare for more hammerings.

  • 23 posada // Nov 29, 2015 at 10:53 AM

    Dreadful decline since Stoke.
    One explanation.
    SM knows he is going and so do the players.

  • 24 lesh // Nov 29, 2015 at 10:55 AM

    McClaren, or any manager for that matter hasn’t got a cat in hell’s chance of turning things around as long as Ashley undermines the position by retaining Charnley and Carr.

    Although Ashley must take responsibility for the Club’s malaise, much responsibility must lie with Carr in particular, him having had experience at the sharp end of the game, and Charnley. They should have advised against his profit driven recruitment policy.

    The answer must be to clip Carr’s wings and get rid of Charnley, who’s clearly shown himself to be out of his depth.

    In the meantime, Ashley really ought to talk to the players and try to gee them up.

  • 25 Munster Mag // Nov 29, 2015 at 10:56 AM

    Ancient C, good point. I think ashley will go for moyes. But he needs to revise the transfer approach and dump carr.

  • 26 Bambams // Nov 29, 2015 at 10:56 AM

    Players we signed were signed for future profit. These players are up against seasoned professionals who know our league well. You could get away with one or two of these players but not 6 or 7.
    Our spine is pathetic, nothing against Eliott but he was deemed third choice, Krul injured, Darlow injured but suddenly Elliott is now good enough. He is not, no other club would do this.
    Dummet, Haidara have had long enough and they are not good enough.
    Colo is simply past it and should of been sold two years ago.
    Janmaat is lazy and looks like another Pistone ( no heart)
    Sissoko obviously doesn’t want to be here.
    Anita does on game in 10
    Colback was decent but still could be improved on
    Perez has potential and I do like him but his goals return needs to improve.
    Cisse is a waste of time and doesn’t want to be here.

    How can you expect players above to achieve anything. We are a stepping stone for so many.

    In my opinion fellas. Our players are not good enough and hide when the going gets tough.

    Until Ashley realises we can’t be run like SD we are knackered

  • 27 lochinvar // Nov 29, 2015 at 10:59 AM

    McLaren , “The job is getting tougher by the week ”
    Get real.
    It was bloody tough to start with.
    It’s nigh on impossible now.
    Where is Ashley ?
    Seriously where is he ?
    Has he cancelled the Sports Dire Xmas party to focus on more important matters ? Nah.
    I can only assume that there’s a betting scam away and we will win the next ten games.
    Anyone down at the Training Ground day? Bet their indoors anyway- soft sh*tes

  • 28 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Nov 29, 2015 at 11:02 AM

    Bin Dippers and Spuds….
    Could be a double figure defeat if we play like what we have played in the last three games .

    Yes something went sadly wrong behind the scenes between the Stoke and Bournemouth game.
    Game style and attitude has changed –

  • 29 colwell // Nov 29, 2015 at 11:03 AM

    Feel sorry for the team having to train today, hopefully they get a little extra in their pay, 50k a week is not enough to work 6 days.

    What happens when you have a shite manager,shite squad,shite scouts and a shite owner? RELEGATION!!

  • 30 Toon-Prodigy // Nov 29, 2015 at 11:06 AM


    The whole country knows where sh1te, they can’t wait to play us and no we are a walk over. They all know we have bang average players and are poorly ran on the football side.

    I think our relegation scraps all too often give it away. Or maybe our multiple amount of managers/head coaches of the past 8 years, our glorious websites to chase Pardew and Ashley out. All the glorious media coverage from ex pro’s and pundits.. Our own managers shouting for a change in policies.

    I think the whole country of football fans by now know we are screwed until the policies at the club changes. Hell, Shearer splattered it all over match of the day perfectly last night to every football fan in the UK, he described the problems in recruitment in 30 seconds.

    On Ashley, it’s a waiting game but he has to act that’s for sure. There is no way he will want to miss out on that TV money. He will spend, it just has to be on the right players this time round.

  • 31 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Nov 29, 2015 at 11:12 AM

    @Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Thats what I was thinking as well something has changed in the backroom since the Stoke game as if Butland had not been in super form we would have won that 3 or 4 nil

    But the way we have just stopped playing suggests something has happened ?

    Maybe some players know they are out the door in January and have stopped trying because they are getting their move such as Perez or Sissoko who have maybe agreed fees with Spurs and the rest of just downed tools?

    Could be Colo has seen we are getting a defender and has decided to just stop trying

  • 32 sing in the corner // Nov 29, 2015 at 11:16 AM

    Shambling towards the lower leagues,without a whimper. I was consoling myself with the idea that there are 3 worse teams than us,but reality is biting now. It’s a sissy fight between us and villa for the title of lowest of the low.
    Nice to finally hear Alan shearer speaking up. I was calling for him and his comfy rich-off-the-back-of-Nufc mates to do that for the last year n a half. Christ he very nearly came to the ‘A’ word on MOTD (Ashley).
    Better late than never.
    Get Colocinni out of this club,stripped of the captaincy as an example at least. That’s the only way to start,to show the other shirkers failure is unacceptable, not rewarding it with promotion and contract extension.

  • 33 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Nov 29, 2015 at 11:16 AM

    for a start diven’t let Carr pick anymore ‘foreign legion to come in
    Surely McLaren (pity he will still be here) can find a whole back-four of home grown players in the Premiership/Championship who are decent footballers who have the right temprement to fight and battle to the end and not throw the towel in

  • 34 JamesToon // Nov 29, 2015 at 11:16 AM


    I agree something must of happened in the back room between Stoke and Bournemouth, what do you reckon it is?

  • 35 liberator // Nov 29, 2015 at 11:16 AM

    I’ve been a Newcastle fan since the early 60s and this is the worst Newcastle side I have seen. Its not McLaren’s fault. The defense has been rubbish for many years but I say get rid of these foreign players and lets get back to basics with some home grown talent who have some passion for the game and just don’t just see a huge cheque at the end of the month.

  • 36 AncientC // Nov 29, 2015 at 11:17 AM

    I wonder how incentivised the players have been been feeling, since it became apparent that a top 10 finish is unlikely.

  • 37 sparky55 // Nov 29, 2015 at 11:18 AM


    if what you say @ 13 is correct then it showed Maclaren as being another pathetic puppet straight away because that was his first test of metal right there.

    If I was a manager walking into newcastle and the board said to me we have to keep Colocinni, keep him as captain and give him an extended contract, I would have said no because that right there was a defining moment that will ultimately undermine and label him for the rest of his career.

    As soon as he leaves (which won’t be long now) everyone will reference that decision as being his biggest mistake of his life and laying down a marker on his authority within the club.

    Colo walked out of club, played injured for six months, came back and was useless and frail and pathetic…and then was given an improved deal.

    I would have said no and explained to the fans and the board that’s why… to expose the board and the owner what a bunch of idiots they are.

    MaClaren would have come out of that with more credibility than he ever will when he gets sacked sometime soon.

    Every punter knows that was the worst decision ever.

  • 38 Jail for Ashley // Nov 29, 2015 at 11:21 AM

    How you wish Pardew was still here to guide us to tenth and line Ashleys pockets

  • 39 Nufc-83 // Nov 29, 2015 at 11:25 AM

    Although I think mclaren should go because we desperately need a reaction to get out of this mess and that is the only thing that can change between now and January the biggest issue is recruitment. The squad is so unbalanced with players who don’t have the required skills for the team to function correctly.

    Cb- we have been screaming for a commanding cb leader since I can remember and bring in players like mbiwa and mbemba (who I think wil be great alongside a commanding cb).

    Lb- we don’t have a lb in the squad up to prem standard which means the attacks don’t go down the left side meaning it’s unbalanced.

    Lw- simply don’t have a natural lw in the squad with pace who can deliver.

    Rw- only winger we have is Aaron’s who is injury prone (at the moment anyway) and when fit wasn’t played even when he was the best performer when on the pitch last season and pre season!!

    CDM- average to poor cdm with no great physical presence.

    Cm – in Sissokho and gini we don’t have a cm who can create with vision and passing ability. We don’t have anyone with a threat of long distance shooting apart from de Jong who doesn’t fit into any current formations. Shelvey cabaye type of player desperately required.

    St- we don’t have any pace who can run the back line and worry opposition defenses.

    Overall the team is shocking and totally unbalanced so Carr needs to be sacked quickly.

  • 40 Munster Mag // Nov 29, 2015 at 11:26 AM

    Jail i think any reasonable nufc fan would take pardew and 10th all day long actually.

  • 41 Tsunki // Nov 29, 2015 at 11:27 AM

    Future Chronicle feature on Newcastle:

    As George Burley prepares his squad in pre-season in Ecuador before another gruelling League One campaign, he speaks frankly to the Chronicle on the mystery disappearance of his predecessor, Steve McLaren, THAT longest winless streak record which dropped the club two divisions in successive years, the Wonga deal being pulled acrimonious due to the bad reflection the club had on its’ sponsor and the remarkable longevity of his prosthetic-limbed Argentinian Captain. more….

    (at the foot of the page an advert for a job lot of 10,000 ” In Carr we Trust” T – Shirts, free to anyone who will pick them up and take them away) other news, bankrupt former sports clothing billionaire and his old friend Lee C. arrested after setting up a stall in a Lincolnshire market selling illegal replica football shirts

  • 42 Tsunki // Nov 29, 2015 at 11:28 AM

    Munster what is it with Pardew? Leave it for pity’s sake leave it.

  • 43 sing in the corner // Nov 29, 2015 at 11:34 AM

    To be fair to Pardew he gave us an almighty smack in the chops and then was very gracious towards us in his comments afterwards. Fair play to him. He’s doing well. And it will increasingly become apparent that he handled Ashley’s shouted model as well as anyone could have.

  • 44 Toon-Prodigy // Nov 29, 2015 at 11:35 AM


    It all leads to Ashley, he hired Carr to scan the french and dutch leagues and use his contacts to get players in on the cheap. It’s only been the last window where he have spent any dosh. Carr is just doing as he is told really.


    Ha ha! I’d be more comfortable right now that’s for sure! I’d prefer 6th though 😉

    Reet lads it’s my bedtime. Work tonight. Have fun.

  • 45 sing in the corner // Nov 29, 2015 at 11:35 AM

    Shouted= shoyte

  • 46 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Nov 29, 2015 at 11:44 AM

    with a bit of luck I’ll be able to find out.
    Trouble with Ashley he picks his friends/cronies ‘he trusts’ to run the club – Carr and Charmless and not the people who know the ins and outs of modern football and management

  • 47 Essex Geordie Bill // Nov 29, 2015 at 11:45 AM

    What I don’t get, is that several weeks ago we were playing some really good football and there was real cause for optimism.

    What has happened to blight the mood and performances since that time.

    It’s easy to blame the players and/or the manager.

    I can’t help feeling that it’s all started with the Sunderland game and the malaise set in after that.

    Someone has to make some hard decisions at the top cos it just ain’t working at the moment and the transfer window won’t save us, not even if we swapped squads with Barcelona!!

  • 48 Average_Contents // Nov 29, 2015 at 11:49 AM


    Bang on. He had a glorious opportunity to do just that but obviously decided against it for whatever reason, be it, he had no say or just didn’t want to upset his paymasters. Who the fcuk knows mate.

    The response is and always will be, where we are now.

    He could of gained massive respect, not just from fan’s but younger players too. They would of understood they’ve got to fight for their place instead of it being guaranteed every fcuking week.

    Ultimate shithouse? Or just not arsed?

  • 49 Jail for Ashley // Nov 29, 2015 at 11:51 AM

    Yes Munster, I can’t think of anything better than a mind numbing three points against Stoke and a home defeat off pf Preston in the cup, at least with this latest calamity it might shake Ashley up in to doing something about it !

  • 50 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Nov 29, 2015 at 11:54 AM

    So now it’s reasonable to want Pardew’s brand of dross football and feeble excuses to finish 10th (we only finished top 10 twice in 4 years under him…) with no cup run and next to no activity in the transfer windows?

    It’s all relative I suppose when you compare it to this s**t but for god sake Munster have a bit of ambition. We’re in a situation where top 10 would be an achievement because we’ve seen clubs of similar sizes (and smaller clubs) being ran well, investing in their squads and managers to a point where they have long since left us in their wake.

    We are where we are on merit, but that doesn’t mean we should pine for a slightly less s**t time in our club’s history.

  • 51 anthc // Nov 29, 2015 at 11:57 AM

    We are a sinking ship and plugging the holes with a few signings in January will only put us through this again next season.
    The club needs cleared and sorting out with people who not only care about doing their job but are actually good at it. Most of the first team aren’t good enough (some are but have terrible attitude) and the management throughout. I know mclaren inherited a bad squad but he’s not up to the job. But I can’t knock him for taking the job as it’s probably the best job he will ever get. Relegation beckons and if not we’ll be having the same conversations next season….

  • 52 Ron Knee // Nov 29, 2015 at 11:57 AM


    Can you be sure they’ll sack him, though? There are precedents!

    Rather than pay out all that compensation, perhaps they’re hoping he’ll do the ‘right thing’ and walk away from the mess.

  • 53 sparky55 // Nov 29, 2015 at 12:11 PM

    Ron…No I’m not sure but even Ashley’s gambling arse has to be twitching now

    With anyone like Ashley who is driven by money and success, it’ll always be about doing deals and making money.

    He’s staring down a double barrelled shot gun of losses here…he’ll lose upwards of 80 million if we go down…he’ll not let it happen.

    He gambled we already had enough points in the bag last season and he was just about right.

    Gambling with points in the bag is completely different to gambling with no points in the bag.

    He has to do something and do something quickly

  • 54 terencelim // Nov 29, 2015 at 12:12 PM

    Ashley doesn’t gamble. He doesn’t even care. Good luck to his ass lickers.

  • 55 firebug666 // Nov 29, 2015 at 12:13 PM

    Jack Colback had this to say after yesterdays defeat:

    “We had a game plan and in the first 15-20 minutes it worked perfectly. We got the goal and you could see they were rattled,” the midfielder told
    “But we let them straight back in, then I made a mistake for the second goal and that put us on the back foot again. After that it was pretty embarrassing, really.
    “Maybe we’re not strong enough character-wise. It seems as if as soon as things go bad, it goes really bad.
    “We had that last year and probably the year before as well. It’s something that’s hanging over the team that we need to get rid of.
    “We had shown signs of improvement but the Leicester game and this one have really set us back quite a lot.”

    Honest words maybe, but words and stating the obvious will not win game.

    These players know they are just not good enough for this league, Ahh well onwards and downwards.

  • 56 hibbitt // Nov 29, 2015 at 12:15 PM

    ron….. next home game will be the decider how the fans react will be key Mc can not take pressure…….i also think charnley gets a very easy ride its time had some shit thrown his way………roll on liverpool and mr klopp

  • 57 Tsunki // Nov 29, 2015 at 12:17 PM

    Ruddy you posted that yesterday and it was nonsense then. Nobody is saying it reflects well on Ashley at all. Au contraire.

  • 58 Mister Tuff // Nov 29, 2015 at 12:17 PM

    Moanster – stop your King Percy love fest -you are on about him all the time.
    You need some eel pie rammed down your gob to shut you up.
    Get yourself into a darkened room with your Chas n’ Dave records and chill for a couple of hours.

  • 59 Ron Knee // Nov 29, 2015 at 12:22 PM


    Yes, our slump has started early this season. Fatso to sack Charmless – if only!

    After we’ve been demolished by Liverpool and Spurs, I expect McClaren will be only too happy leave.

  • 60 Jail for Ashley // Nov 29, 2015 at 12:22 PM

    The very sad irony that has seen us forsake PL experience for future sell on value yet there is not a single player in the squad who we’d be able to sell for more than we paid, Jack Colback excepted.

  • 61 Jib // Nov 29, 2015 at 12:43 PM

    Jail for Ashley – once again your pretence of knowing anything about footy or NUFC is shot full of holes !

    “there is not a single player in the squad who we’d be able to sell for more than we paid, Jack Colback excepted.”

    Not heard of Perez have you ?

  • 62 toonking // Nov 29, 2015 at 12:46 PM


    i’ve got an idea, lets starting giving ashley praise and believe in him maybe he’ll repay with a great manager and some great players.

    The ambition we all want via getting rid of ashley isn’t getting any closer, crap managers replaced by crapper ones, player getting less and less respectful and now a team that looks relegated.

  • 63 toonking // Nov 29, 2015 at 12:50 PM

    if we don’t want to give ashley more time which i wouldn’t, might as well deem pardew as world class puppet terms in other words best of the rest because I can’t see a single sign of better types coming right now.

  • 64 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Nov 29, 2015 at 12:50 PM


    I don’t need your seal of approval mate. I’m passing comment on what I read, by all means disagree.

  • 65 Jail for Ashley // Nov 29, 2015 at 12:50 PM

    Yes, forgeetting the ONE player we could make a profit on is a much bigger clanger than thinking that Alan Pardew was awarded an eight year deal for guiding us to promotion !

  • 66 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Nov 29, 2015 at 12:52 PM

    Also, I didn’t say it is with the intention on reflecting well on Ashley, so if you are going to disagree – at least get the gist of what it is I am saying before doing so.

  • 67 JamesToon // Nov 29, 2015 at 12:52 PM


    Doesn’t every relegated teams get “parachute” money?

    I hope there’s a knee jerk reaction and the club get rid of mcclaren/charnley/Carr and get in the right people

  • 68 reilly // Nov 29, 2015 at 12:54 PM

    only 7 players turned up for training today.

  • 69 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Nov 29, 2015 at 12:54 PM


    Getting rid of all of the above will achieve absolutely nowt until the man who is in charge of appointing them is got rid of too.

    It’s amazing that after 8 years (nearly 9) that there still isn’t a consensus that Ashley needs to be removed from the club. Astounding really.

  • 70 sparky55 // Nov 29, 2015 at 12:54 PM


    Your point is well made…the strategy is so floored it’s incredible and has left us on the brink.

    The managerial appointment was also very poor in light of the state of the squad.

    Allardyce knows what he’s doing even though he failed at newcastle. He knows he needed to stop sunderland losing then build from there in January. He’s already succeeded in that strategy with what a lot of people regarded as a bunch of misfits at sunderland.

    I’d take Allardyce in a flash right now.

  • 71 Ron Knee // Nov 29, 2015 at 12:55 PM


    Yes, McClaren hasn’t got Percy’s rhinoceros hide. I’d be surprised if he hangs on much longer.

  • 72 toonarmydownsouth // Nov 29, 2015 at 1:11 PM

    Colback can talk all he wants, he’s as culpable and gutless as the rest his apologies and words are as useless and pointless as his performances
    Him Colo and Sissoko should of been left at Selhurst!

  • 73 sparky55 // Nov 29, 2015 at 1:12 PM

    James toon

    The way I understand it is as follows. If I’m wrong I’m sure the Google geeks will out me! 🙂

    Yes we get a parachute of about 66 million over four years but this is the last of the old parachute payments system of the old deal which finishes this year. The rewards of the new deal for the premiership starting 2016/17 for staying up is however massive compared to the current deal which basically means going down this year has a double whammy

    Less money for going down and missing out on massive money for staying up. Each club are guaranteed a minimum of 81million for being in the premiership next year…and that’s why the fat controller will do whatever it takes to stay up.

  • 74 NezzaNUFC // Nov 29, 2015 at 1:13 PM

    Seems funny how a few games ago McClaren had Newcastle organised and playing well ( If not better )

    We passed the ball around, kept possession, threatening in attack, we were becoming a football team and the players even felt comfortable with this method.

    But now though everything seems to have washed away in a blink of an eye.

    Yes I never wanted McClaren here in the first place but I was finding his style quite relieving and I can honestly say I was enjoying this display even though we weren’t getting the results and most on here said the same about the style we played.

    So how come it’s all changed?

    For me I think Sparky could be right about players knowing they are leaving in January, because you can’t just have a nice style display suddenly falter after weeks training for this style?

    Where’s Mitrovic passion lately? he didn’t want to be involved in the game same with against Bournemouth and Leicester.

    Out of all the players in recent games Colback and Perez seem to be the only players who actually care for this club whilst others see it as a pay day only, Anita also I think he cares but being played as a DM is not his style so no wonder he’s dropped in performance, at the start McC had him as a deep playmaker which he looked good if not very good.

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