Why Steve McClaren Is Not Suited To Newcastle United


It wasn’t exactly a popular appointment at Newcastle to hire Steve McClaren as manager and it looked more like Steve was more than willing to come in and manage under all the restrictions the Newcastle manager (or head coach) has placed on him because of the way the club is run under owner Mike Ashley.

It as also surprising that Newcastle still went after McClaren in June after he was apparently the first choice in January after Alan Pardew left – but he had just been fired by Championship club Derby County.

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Steve McClaren – things not going well

How many other Premier League clubs would have done that?

None.

The Times chief football writer  Henry Winter has written in the Sunday Supplement that Steve McClaren is not suited to be manager of such an iconic club as Newcastle United.

And Henry thinks McClaren is less than convincing in his TV interviews after the games.

What we don’t like seeing is Steve with his head in hands on the touchline – what message does that send to his players?

Certainly not a manager in control of things.

This is what Winter has written today:

“He has the presence and aurora to be a No 2, we saw that at Manchester United,” “But I just don’t think for a club of that stature and emotional identity with the fans that he has the stature to be manager.”

“You hear him criticising the players and speaking afterwards and he is not convincing – the greatest managers are at their most impressive and most quotable in defeat.”

“We saw with England that when the heat was on he couldn’t deal with it. Man management is key, I don’t think McClaren has that. The dressing room has individuals who need bringing into line.”

“Coloccini should be leading the dressing room,” “He should be saying ‘whatever we think about McClaren, we have a duty to the people who pay us good money and to the Newcastle fans, who give everything each week to have pride in the team’.”

“They are not doing it. I would look at Coloccini as much as McClaren.”

Coloccini is not the appropriate captain to have at the club and if Steve wants to fix problems he should take the captaincy away from the Argentine this week.

And against Liverpool at home next Sunday he has to make some changes in the starting line-up such as starting Kevin Mbabu at left back in place of Paul Dummett, who has struggled in the last three games.

Surely we have players who can play better and with more pride and passion than the eleven who started the game yesterday.

Steve cannot suffer many more defeats before we think Mike Ashley might have to ask.

But if Steve is fired will he leave the decision for who to appoint as the new manager to Lee Charnley who has hired John Carver and Steve – who have both been disastrous appointments?

Newcastle can still recover this season – but there is not much leeway – and the club needs to start doing the things right for a change.

Comments welcome.



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130 comments so far

  • JamesToon

    Nov 29, 2015 at 2:30 PM

    Comment #1

    i agree with nezza’s point a few threads ago, a couple of weeks ago v stoke/chelsea/sunderland/norwich even though we didn’t get the results we would of liked bar norwich, i actually enjoyed some of the football we played and loved mitro and gini’s passion against norwich and chelsea, there were reasons to be optimistic. ever since the bournemouth game, that all just disappeared in a blink of an eye. Is it because of the likes of coloccini and sissoko being told they are gonna be sold in january? Have some of the players fallen out with each other?

    Yet another year goes by and yet again we are in disarray.

    When are we gonna start competing where we should be competing.

    When are we gonna start having seasons where we get pleasure from watching our team and there isn’t a crisis.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Nov 29, 2015 at 2:31 PM

    Comment #2

    If only we’d seen it coming…

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  • Ron Knee

    Nov 29, 2015 at 2:32 PM

    Comment #3

    Ibiza

    Such a shock!

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  • toonking

    Nov 29, 2015 at 2:32 PM

    Comment #4

    anyone have an idea who are those players?

    From the pic on twitter, curlywirly and ginger haired man are easy to see.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Nov 29, 2015 at 2:35 PM

    Comment #5

    I’d tell you what I’d do for the next game if I was McClaren.

    I’m remove Colo from the squad as an example, even if just for the one game. Make a point of it.

    I’d sit Sissoko down and ask him if he wants to play for France in the summer and if he does he needs to pull his finger out or he’ll be in the same boat as Colo.

    I’d give the captaincy to young Perez, say he is the one showing some passion and pride in the shirt, follow this example.

    I’d play a narrow midfield of colback, sissoko, wijnaldum and de jong. Tell colback to hold and have the rest play in front.

    Get Mitro and Perez up top. Mitro might be better with perez and de jong floating around him winning 2nd balls.

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  • sing in the corner

    Nov 29, 2015 at 2:36 PM

    Comment #6

    From last thread….
    Well lads n lasses, dunno about you but even with 25 games still to go the ‘R’ word is nagging away at the back if my mind now. We are in no way equipped to deal with life in the Championship. There isn’t enough fight in our hapless squad to deal with it. What do we do about it first? I know I keep banging on about it but the captain simply must be removed. We don’t have a ready made leader to replace him but it’s beyond that now – the players are following his example and shrugging their shoulders.
    It’s like lancing a boil. He has to made an example of. No more promoting / rewarding failure or you will ultimately get what you deserve – a squad of blokes who are very good at failing.
    Wij or De Jong would be my makeshift choices..until we try and sign someone to lead and inspire in the dreaded window.
    Hammer me by all means,but give realistic alternatives. We have to do something or we’re gone.

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  • cyprus

    Nov 29, 2015 at 2:36 PM

    Comment #7

    TS,
    Totally disagree with that logic. We go to the championship, we lose value he sells.

    So, the club is destroyed, worthless and he sells us dirt cheap to… whom.

    No, Steve was a wrong appointment, so was Black and the 12 year old, but more so, CARR. Pardew was wrong, but with better players he’s doing ok.

    Our players ain’t good enpugh from back to front. Janm is terrible as is Dummett and colo is past it. I could go on to the top. Special crapness lately, Wiji.

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  • Ketsbaia9

    Nov 29, 2015 at 2:37 PM

    Comment #8

    The only decent players we have are:

    Marveaux
    Sissoko
    Janmaat
    Perez

    All the rest aren’t good enough. Can’t believe we sold Abeid and Santon.

    Ben Arfa should’ve been kept.

    Colback is miles worser than Abeid.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Nov 29, 2015 at 2:39 PM

    Comment #9

    Cyprus

    In what way is the club destroyed by being the in the championship? Of course the club is better in the prem league but people seem to think there is no football outside the top division. I’ve seen much better football in the championship than from us this year.

    Yes we could sell to somebody worse but that is the same if we stay in the premier league, there have been some terrible owners take over clubs in the top flight as well.

    I don’t want us to go down, just saying it might not be the worst outcome.

    At the minute we are terrible to watch and have been for years.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Nov 29, 2015 at 2:40 PM

    Comment #10

    Sage
    Fully agree with that, take the brakes off and try and get some service to the forwards
    De Jong, may or may not be suited to the league, but we’ll never know until we actually give him minutes on the pitch

    We saw from him last season he has the quality, and him and Gini could be a lethal partnership and we’ve seen Mitro and Perez work well when the service is there

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Nov 29, 2015 at 2:42 PM

    Comment #11

    Every decision they seem to make is as baffling as the last, it’s like they sit and think of the most logical thing to do then do the complete polar opposite.

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  • banjax

    Nov 29, 2015 at 2:43 PM

    Comment #12

    banjax
    November 29, 2015
    In the same way Liverpool brought in Klopp mid season and Leicester brought in Ranieri, it was a result of a decisive board who were not happy with the manager and his ability to get the best out of the players at his disposal – the rest of the tale is history. Newcastle’s inability to be ready to react to our dire situation is well documented and this time the board are going to cost us relegation. Mike Ashley admitted earlier on Sky that he’d made mistakes. Well let me tell you Bud you’ve still got a lot more to learn which is very surprising considering you are a Billionaire. You don’t get to be a Billionaire by being stupid and there is no doubt Mike Ashley is successful in his retail and property investment business’s. So how come he’s thick as two short planks when it comes to the running of NUFC ? After Kevin Keegan resigned ( and he was so right to do it) because of the ‘continental’ style of taking the manager out of player decisions and instead having scouts and directors of football like Dennis Wise call the shots and buying young players under 26 years with no premier league experience, that is where the rot started. I’m sure M A is aware of the money at stake and how much his pockets will be hit if or when we are relegated, so why is he acting like a rabbit in the headlights ? Only he can answer that question. But he must know the club needs radical surgery to its management and players and by putting it off until tomorrow means there will be no tomorrow !

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  • Transfer Sage

    Nov 29, 2015 at 2:44 PM

    Comment #13

    Tads

    I remember why De jong first came and in those initial game he seemed to have a few nice link ups with Perez, both clever players. Mitro being a battering ram in there too could prove useful as an outball.

    Whether it would work or not I don’t know, but it surely is worth a try.

    I can’t understand why he isn’t trying his hardest to get Aarons fit and to get his pace into the side.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Nov 29, 2015 at 2:46 PM

    Comment #14

    On Match of The Day, Gary Lineker:

    “I suppose in many ways, Newcastle are a bit farcical almost..?”

    Danny Murphy:

    “Well yeah, which surprises me so much because when I worked with Steve (McClaren) he was tactically very aware, when he was Sven’s number two with England and they (Newcastle) look all over the place.

    “I do agree with him (McClaren) partly, in that you have to show some attitude and desire to defend properly.

    “Simple loss of the ball (for Palace’s second goal) in midfield (by Colback), which isn’t the end of the world because the back four is in an ok position, but what happens next is just ridiculous.

    “No one is talking, Coloccini goes to ground for no reason, Anita has a swing at it and then Janmaat…he actually turns his back on Bolasie shooting. I mean, show some bravery, show some desire.

    “The lack of leadership in the back four…I have to say as well the midfield aren’t helping.

    “I think they have got real problems because I don’t see any strength in depth in the squad, that they can replace the players with, who are playing so badly.”

    Gary Lineker:

    “Fancy your weekly rant…”
    Danny Murphy (to Shearer):

    “Stay calm”
    Alan Shearer:

    “It’s very difficult to sum up Newcastle’s plight in 30 seconds but I am going to try.

    “You cannot coach players who don’t want to be coached, who are not good enough.

    “They have got too many Monday to Friday players, good in training but don’t want to perform on a Saturday

    “From the manager’s point of view, I don’t see a plan. I didn’t see a plan 3 weeks ago at Bournemouth I didn’t see a plan last week against Leicester and I certainly did not see a plan today to stop the opposition.

    “Recruitment, the guys in charge of recruiting players have got away with it for such a long time now at Newcastle because the players they have signed are just not good enough, simple.

    “Apart from that…it’s great.”

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  • Ron Knee

    Nov 29, 2015 at 2:48 PM

    Comment #15

    TS

    It’s interesting that two of last season’s relegated clubs are in the top five of the Championship.

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  • toonluvva

    Nov 29, 2015 at 2:49 PM

    Comment #16

    Repost

    Einstein described insanity as doing the same thing over and over again whilst expecting a different result.

    This January transfer window we will have the same person recruiting the same sort of players, the cheques being signed by the same MD and the whole lot being coached by the same man.

    Nothing will change, except our league status, until there is a root and branch change. That will not happen. Mr Ashley may well invest heavily in an attempt to preserve his shop window for SD, all to no avail.

    I’m sorry to say the writings on the wall. And it says in RELEGATION.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Nov 29, 2015 at 2:50 PM

    Comment #17

    Sage
    It’s baffling no changes have been made at all

    De Jong, fit and determined to prove his worth by insisting on playing for the u21’s, fair play great attitude
    Marv’s back and apparently not only fit but has been told he’ll be given a chance to prove his worth

    Selling Abied as Kets has pointed out was a ridiculous decision because he would of been a fantastic option this season

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  • Transfer Sage

    Nov 29, 2015 at 2:51 PM

    Comment #18

    Tads

    I never understand the obsession with buying foreign players but then appointing a british manager.

    Surely we should be looking to a foreign manager with links to some of the leagues we buy from so he might have a rough idea on the character of some of these players and their true ability.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Nov 29, 2015 at 2:52 PM

    Comment #19

    Banjax
    A board that includes the manager is not going to make the decision to sack the manager, especially when they’d have to admit they f*^ked up by appointing him

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  • Transfer Sage

    Nov 29, 2015 at 2:54 PM

    Comment #20

    Ron

    I don’t think our lads would have the fight for it. If they can’t get themselves fired up to play the premier league teams we have no hope of them turning up consistently in the championship.

    Tads

    I was not a huge Abeid fan, I thought he was steady away though and better than Anita. It was mad to sell him though when we don’t have great options for the central role given that Tiote is usually injured, Colback gets a few bans and we use Wijnaldum/Sissoko out wide

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Nov 29, 2015 at 2:54 PM

    Comment #21

    Sage
    Fully agree, as mentioned earlier apart from a KK cameo we’ve endured the majority of a 10 year period suffering at the hands of bog standard pre historic British managers/coaches

    More of the same is most certainly not the answer

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Nov 29, 2015 at 2:58 PM

    Comment #22

    Sage
    Personally thought Abied had the potential to turn into a solid if unspectacular player, still young and looked on par if not slightly better than the likes of Anita and Colback and had surpassed the current Tiote

    But like Santon, it’s a player gone and not replaced

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  • toonking

    Nov 29, 2015 at 2:59 PM

    Comment #23

    cyprus

    championship football isn’t going to impact a current newcastle united team very negatively at all.

    a premier league team need to have quality players, a great spirit and a decent appearance to top class players who might want a move but right now non of that is happening. decent goals and entertaining football can be done in the championship and as a team who’s usually base on premier league football that should be more common.

    We’re probably already viewed as a club less valuable to most owners because they know nothing about football and usually go on stats which in newcastle is generally poor, we’ve not won a trophy for decades, we’re not a general champion league team, at this day in age cash from a fan size is nothing when you’ve got a gigantic PL TV deal and as some say we’re a team based in the north east which is considered a bad area to some.

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  • Ron Knee

    Nov 29, 2015 at 2:59 PM

    Comment #24

    TS

    I meant PL clubs don’t necessarily fall through the trapdoor into League One. Of course, knowing our shower of sh*** ……

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Nov 29, 2015 at 3:00 PM

    Comment #25

    Have to say after Haidara’s performance’s i was thrilled at Dummy returning……pls bring back Ryan Taylor!

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  • toonluvva

    Nov 29, 2015 at 3:01 PM

    Comment #26

    Banjax @ 12

    Mr Ashley is indeed a billionaire. This I believe becasue of two things.

    1, He understands the retail sector very well.

    2. Within SD he has appointed and rewarded staff who know what they are doing.

    In football in general and NUFC in particular, he has knows nothing about football, which to his credit he admits, but much worse, he has not been able to identify and appoint people to lead NUFC. (LLambias, Wise, Kinnear etc)

    The sad fact is that the club is moribund. We will not progress until Mr Ashley has a major change of heart. Just hoping that we MIGHT just garner enough points to wriggle free of the bottom three is not enough. If he wants the huge rewards from being a PL side, we need to have a management team capable of ddelivering on a consistent basis.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Nov 29, 2015 at 3:02 PM

    Comment #27

    Are there really any fans out there that actually believe Ashley is trying to find the right people to make us a successful football club and can they explain, based on what we’ve seen, why they think that?

    The only half logical reason I can think of disecting the levels of blame is with the idea that Ashley has the desire and or ability to do any better? If not, surely whatever route you go down leads to the same failures?

    This isn’t about the idea of the clubs model – We know it’s used elsewhere, this question is about Ashley, and his version of said model.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Nov 29, 2015 at 3:08 PM

    Comment #28

    As for SDs success – It’s simple. He sells knocked down goods at knocked down prices. There is no illusion of top quality, or entertainment. It truly is a case of you get what you pay for. There is no emotion to the product, if you don’t want it, you don’t buy it.

    Now, over in the footballing world, product and entertainment are vital components, so is emotional attachment. Ashley plays on the latter to compensate for the former.

    SD promises nothing but low prices, he can deliver that, no problem.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Nov 29, 2015 at 3:10 PM

    Comment #29

    Ibiza

    I think that Ashley just wants us to sit in the league, nothing more really.

    The problem with that is you get teams who want to better themselves and really strive to improve. I think that as there is more money in the league every club is now able to buy some quality and as such every club has a match winner, just those further down the league have less of them and ones who are less consistent.

    We even have them, Sissoko or Wijnaldum are dangerous on their day.

    Ashley seems to be getting caught out, by not really kicking on each year and just stagnating we are in effect moving backwards and we are seeing it’s more difficult for us to survive each year.

    I just don’t think Ashley wants to restructure the club top to bottom, which he’d need to do to get the problems sorted.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Nov 29, 2015 at 3:18 PM

    Comment #30

    TS,
    That season we finished fifth ended us as any type of force, the plan was laid bare and exposed for what it was, if only Pardew had walked then we might be a bit closer to getting rid of the fat controller

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  • Ron Knee

    Nov 29, 2015 at 3:19 PM

    Comment #31

    Ibiza

    Ashley’s an enigma. We read that he’s loyal to his trusted lieutenants so could it be cronyism that prevents him from sacking Charnley?

    I imagine – or at least hope – that Charmless will be put through the wringer the next time they speak.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Nov 29, 2015 at 3:20 PM

    Comment #32

    Transfer…I’d find it hard to disagree with your opener. It would appear he’d prefer we didn’t go down, but I’m not convinced he cares too much about relegation, otherwise he’d more pro-active in times of need.

    If only staff, players and fans were content to strive for an easy life, and would just take the gambles gone wrong on the chin.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Nov 29, 2015 at 3:25 PM

    Comment #33

    Ron…Of course it’s only a guess, but for me, he’s loyal to those who tick certain boxes. Mainly those who won’t challenge him, or those who deal with people who do.

    Take away the PR talk (top 8 / winning something / new state of the art training facilities / etc etc) what is the clubs remit? What are these people hired for and to achieve what in what timeline? It’s all just a charade.

    Where I see it becoming an issue for Ashley again is if he’s being asked to dip in to his own pocket.

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  • Ron Knee

    Nov 29, 2015 at 3:26 PM

    Comment #34

    Enter Andy Carroll.

    Pulis can’t afford the price of a suit, apparently.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Nov 29, 2015 at 3:28 PM

    Comment #35

    @CraigHope_DM: NUFC UPDATE: McClaren is safe for now but that could change should Ashley fear relegation amid concerns over boss

    I’m confused I’m certain SMC confirmed were already in a relegation battle

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  • Ibizatoon

    Nov 29, 2015 at 3:34 PM

    Comment #36

    tads…Don’t be confused. The word “could” was used.

    Ashley “could” piss off or Ashley “could” do the right thing.

    Could, could, could…doesn’t.

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  • Ron Knee

    Nov 29, 2015 at 3:42 PM

    Comment #37

    Ibiza

    I’m not sure I agree about Ashley not caring about relegation. By spending £50 million in the summer surely he hoped to keep the club ticking along in the PL?

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Nov 29, 2015 at 3:43 PM

    Comment #38

    Ibiza
    Tbh i was confused as to why the f**k this bloke is claiming he knows what goes on behind the scenes
    We all know that absolutely no action will be taken, the board won’t sack McClaren, he’s part of the board and so is his mate Carr

    Ashley doesn’t have the interest to sack the board

    We are stuck in the same cycle we have been for the last 4 years

    It’s worth remembering at this time McClarens record is on par with Pardews 2014 record and Pardew walked…

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  • oldbobaycliffe

    Nov 29, 2015 at 3:43 PM

    Comment #39

    would ashley employ someone who had been sacked as a failure run sports direct yet he has done it twice at nufc.both managers were sacked for failure in a lower league than us.just doesn,t make sense the only reason can be cos,their cheap.a good manager who could get the team higher up the league would more than cover the extra cost of his wages.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Nov 29, 2015 at 3:44 PM

    Comment #40

    Ron
    In the summer he spent the funds we’d acquired through past transfer fees
    If we get relegated he’d have to spend out of his own pocket

    Huge difference

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