Top BBC Pundit Worries About McClaren

Two minutes into the second half yesterday when Crystal Palace went 4-1 up against Newcastle, BBC Match of the Day pundit Gary Lineker sent out the following tweet.

As it turned out – in the second half Palace continued to dominate and they added a fifth goal in stoppage time to complete a 5-1 rout of Newcastle – following on from what Leicester City had done the previous week.

22 comments so far

  • Jail for Ashley

    Nov 29, 2015 at 1:53 PM

    Comment #1

    Kid in the bar yesterday saying it’s got nowt to do with Ashley, divided fans, no team spirit no game plan, shambles

  • Bambams

    Nov 29, 2015 at 1:56 PM

    Comment #2

    I wasn’t suggesting HE get involved.
    HE needs to bring in football folk to run the club properly fella.
    This board is simply not good enough or they are just doing as they are told by Ash. If it’s the second option we are truly in the mire.

    Not sure how people feel about this but Mac already spoke to Pedro re our style of play. Beardsley could offer more than reserve/youth coach.

    Not sure who Ash would even consider looking to bring in given his track record. All terrible but he is ultimately responsible for our club

  • toonking

    Nov 29, 2015 at 2:00 PM

    Comment #3

    nice tweet.

    it’s worrying generally, mac certainly doesn’t look capable enough of keeping newcastle up and the overall record of sackings and arrivals only gives worse sign.

    He’ll be taking that brolly to home matches now and hiding under it whilst we fans will have to continue with hope of the 4th 5th and 6th lottery ball come out as well therefore not only the little prize of new manage coming but also new owner, director and scout and as a bonus we’ll win the raffle and get a quality team.

  • Transfer Sage

    Nov 29, 2015 at 2:02 PM

    Comment #4

    I can’t see anyone turning this team around, especially McClaren, hardly the type of man to inspire you.

    He needs to try something though, no good playing the same players every week, especially at the back. Playing a couple of the kids in fullback positions won’t see us concede more.

  • Mister Tuff

    Nov 29, 2015 at 2:03 PM

    Comment #5

    Toonarmydownsouth – you posted :-
    “Oh and Ed, we will bring players in?
    Squads full fella, need to sell some players first mate, you think Charnley can organise and execute those deals quickly enough to bring in reinforcements?
    No f*****g chance”.

    Technically this is incorrect – you do not have to sell players to get them off the squad list to free up places. I posted about this a couple of weeks ago.
    In any window you can rename your squad list – whilst it is better to get rid/sell of the duds – you do not have to – just take them off the list. You could still have the duds at the club and replace them in the squad with new players. Downside would be they are still under contract and wages will have to be paid. That will not happen at SJP as they are too tight.
    But if lets say as top player became available to buy – easy – just removed one of the duds from the squad.

  • toonarmydownsouth

    Nov 29, 2015 at 2:03 PM

    Comment #6

    Pedro has done a sh1t job with the reserves and us worse than Moncur in terms of being an Ashley fanboy

    In what world does appointing Beardsley get Ashley to implement the needed changes?

    Since SBR left with the exception of KK’s cameo which saw him sue us we’ve had nearly 10 years of inept British coaching

    The last thing needed is more of the same

  • gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola)

    Nov 29, 2015 at 2:04 PM

    Comment #7

    Its got nothing to do with Aslhey??!!?!?!

    How so? He dictated who is the manager, he dictated who is the director of football, he dictates on budget and pretty much which players get brought in. He dictated on having Carr as a chief scout.

    How is it NOTHING to do with Ashley?

  • toonarmydownsouth

    Nov 29, 2015 at 2:08 PM

    Comment #8

    Mister Tuff
    I agree it’s technically incorrect, and technically there are two spaces currently available if Williamson and Bigi further extend their loans

    But Ashley paying wages for nothing?
    Especially as SMC has already said they’ll have to see about Jan recruitment due to squad size, the plan to move on the deadwood must of suffered due to the current injuries to the deadwood!

  • toonarmydownsouth

    Nov 29, 2015 at 2:10 PM

    Comment #9

    But as previously stated at the start of the season Ashley very publicly washed his hands in regards to the running of the club in terms of the footballing side, he’s left it to the board

    The board consist of the very people who need to go, can’t see any changes being made if I’m honest

  • Jail for Ashley

    Nov 29, 2015 at 2:15 PM

    Comment #10

    We heard from the donkeys mouth that the buck stops with him yet still some people refuse to blame him, I think because he’s a self made Billionaire people assume that he great at every aspect of business, after eight years of shite it has been proved that he is an abject failure at being a football club owner, it’s going yo be a big kick in the teeth next year when he ‘loans’ us another 50M pounds

  • toonarmydownsouth

    Nov 29, 2015 at 2:19 PM

    Comment #11

    Did you hear his interview?
    Apparently we were still in it at 3-1…

    He didn’t mention his ridiculous decision to bring off Perez for Lacselles….
    And we showed a great reaction after the 4th apparently by only conceding 1 more goal

    The blokes as inspiring as a wet teabag

  • Transfer Sage

    Nov 29, 2015 at 2:19 PM

    Comment #12

    The only plus side to relegation (which looks inevitable) is that it makes us more likely to have a potential buyer.

    A few years in the championship, we’d not have the ability or fight to bounce back, would drop the value of the club as there would be no premier league money which might make somebody willing to part with their cash to buy us.

    Whether Ashley would take a lower offer remains to be seen though. He might if he sees no hope of gaining promotion.

    Much rather he’d have kept to his promise from the end of last season and got us sorted in the prem league though.

  • Transfer Sage

    Nov 29, 2015 at 2:21 PM

    Comment #13


    He’s a joke, I hope he doesn’t say all that to the players and it’s just his poor attempt at trying to take positives for the fans.

    He’s done nothing in his career, one cup run with Boro and a good season in Holland, that’s it in near enough 20 years.

  • toonking

    Nov 29, 2015 at 2:24 PM

    Comment #14

    So only 7 players turn up for training!!!

    what more do we need to see as proof of how discraceful our squad is in general.

    relegation will have a second positive, it will force these greedy cunts out because ashley won’t have as much cash for wages and the players will not want lower wages or championship football.

  • Jail for Ashley

    Nov 29, 2015 at 2:26 PM

    Comment #15

    I’ve said many times on here that I’d take relegation in a heartbeat if it meant him going, but Tan, Venkys and even Oyston is still clinging on.

  • toonarmydownsouth

    Nov 29, 2015 at 2:27 PM

    Comment #16

    If we’re all honest at a club run properly in terms of the best interest of the team, Steve McClaren would of been given his marching orders at full time yesterday for one of the most tactically inept displays witnessed

    Yes the players did little to cover themselves in glory but he had a real chance to tinker with the set up yesterday, instead he merely started Cisse in a system that isn’t working, in fact in an ironic twist he seemed to start Cisse in Pardews tried and failed 4231 system

    If Mitro can’t hold the ball up in that service devoid system, Cisse has nee chance

    And those substitutions man
    Lascelles for Perez
    Wijnaldum for Gouffran
    Yes those were two genuine substitutions that happened in a premier league manager by a professional league manager…

  • JamesToon

    Nov 29, 2015 at 2:28 PM

    Comment #17

    i agree with nezza’s point a few threads ago, a couple of weeks ago v stoke/chelsea/sunderland/norwich even though we didn’t get the results we would of liked bar norwich, i actually enjoyed some of the football we played and loved mitro and gini’s passion against norwich and chelsea, there were reasons to be optimistic. ever since the bournemouth game, that all just disappeared in a blink of an eye. Is it because of the likes of coloccini and sissoko being told they are gonna be sold in january? Have some of the players fallen out with each other?

    Yet another year goes by and yet again we are in disarray.

    When are we gonna start competing where we should be competing.

    When are we gonna start having seasons where we get pleasure from watching our team and there isn’t a crisis.

  • Transfer Sage

    Nov 29, 2015 at 2:29 PM

    Comment #18


    I don’t know why they are still there but I’m pretty sure Ashley just likes the fact that we cost him nothing to run and act as a free billboard.

    We’d be leaking money in the championship and he’d get much less exposure around the world, which is what he needs. He’s already got SD dominating the UK, hardly needs the exposure here.

    The questions would be how long would he cling to hope we might come back up and how much of a reduced offer would he take on the club.

  • toonarmydownsouth

    Nov 29, 2015 at 2:30 PM

    Comment #19

    An absolute joke
    We had a real chance to really change direction, instead we went with another unemployed British dinosaur of yesteryear who no one else would touch with a barge pole

  • toonking

    Nov 29, 2015 at 2:30 PM

    Comment #20

    anyone have an idea who are those players?

    From the pic on twitter, curlywirly and ginger haired man are easy to see.

  • sing in the corner

    Nov 29, 2015 at 2:30 PM

    Comment #21

    Well lads n lasses, dunno about you but even with 25 games still to go the ‘R’ word is nagging away at the back if my mind now. We are in no way equipped to deal with life in the Championship. There isn’t enough fight in our hapless squad to deal with it. What do we do about it first? I know I keep banging on about it but the captain simply must be removed. We don’t have a ready made leader to replace him but it’s beyond that now – the players are following his example and shrugging their shoulders.
    It’s like lancing a boil. He has to made an example of. No more promoting / rewarding failure or you will ultimately get what you deserve – a squad of blokes who are very good at failing.
    Wij or De Jong would be my makeshift choices..until we try and sign someone to lead and inspire in the dreaded window.
    Hammer me by all means,but give realistic alternatives. We have to do something or we’re gone.

  • banjax

    Nov 29, 2015 at 2:42 PM

    Comment #22

    In the same way Liverpool brought in Klopp mid season and Leicester brought in Ranieri, it was a result of a decisive board who were not happy with the manager and his ability to get the best out of the players at his disposal – the rest of the tale is history. Newcastle’s inability to be ready to react to our dire situation is well documented and this time the board are going to cost us relegation. Mike Ashley admitted earlier on Sky that he’d made mistakes. Well let me tell you Bud you’ve still got a lot more to learn which is very surprising considering you are a Billionaire. You don’t get to be a Billionaire by being stupid and there is no doubt Mike Ashley is successful in his retail and property investment business’s. So how come he’s thick as two short planks when it comes to the running of NUFC ? After Kevin Keegan resigned ( and he was so right to do it) because of the ‘continental’ style of taking the manager out of player decisions and instead having scouts and directors of football like Dennis Wise call the shots and buying young players under 26 years with no premier league experience, that is where the rot started. I’m sure M A is aware of the money at stake and how much his pockets will be hit if or when we are relegated, so why is he acting like a rabbit in the headlights ? Only he can answer that question. But he must know the club needs radical surgery to its management and players and by putting it off until tomorrow means there will be no tomorrow !


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