Poll Results In On McClaren – They´re Not Good

We put out a poll after Saturday´s game – the second disaster in a row – to ask fans if they thought   Steve McClaren could turn things around at Newcastle.

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Steve McClaren – can he turn things around?

It turns out the vast majority of fans doubt that he can do that.

Can Steve McClaren Turn Things Around At Newcastle?

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What Steve and the coaching staff have to do now is get some results in the next three games against Liverpool, Tottenham and Aston Villa – and more pathetic and embarrassing displays like the last two would not be good – and that’s an understatement.

We don´t think Mike Ashley will allow Newcastle to get too deeply into relegation trouble before he will take some action – but there´s still time for Steve to turn things around.

Comments welcome.

17 comments so far

  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Dec 1, 2015 at 7:56 AM

    Comment #1

    Lilongwe Geordie // Dec 1, 2015 at 7:55 AM

    He made an appearance on TV but did anything really change? It certainly didn’t have the desired effect. He didn’t sell, he didn’t make any real changes, just a few cosmetic ones and a higher spend, but nothing changed in policies.

    I agree SD is his priority and any campaign has to have an element of impacting that. But there is more to an effective campaign then just boycotting or protesting.

    NUFC fans criticised other NUFC fans because Rangers were more determined, but it has got them nowhere really. Ashley still has them by the bollocks, and is causing damage to their club with his efforts to regain control.

    A joint campaign, and link in with other anti SD groups, workers rights groups etc, anti zero hours campaigners. It needs joined up thinking to really get at him. NUFC is just one on a list of things that can be used to get at Ashley. If the pressure becomes too much, he may sell and rid himself of one of his lesser problems, but again there needs to be a buyer and there are less people interested in owning a football club, let alone ones with the financial power to purchase and correct the problems t the club.

  • Tsunki

    Dec 1, 2015 at 7:57 AM

    Comment #2

    Ashley Out!

  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Dec 1, 2015 at 8:00 AM

    Comment #3

    It is embarrassing that we gave up at 3-1 down. Essentially we decided at that stage it was damage limitation. Disgraceful attitude in my opinion. Not only that, but it didn’t work either. How many times have Leicester fought back from a couple of goals down, even doing it when 3 down.

    Time for a massive shake up of the starting 11, formation and tactics. I don’t really care if the players are less glamorous, or even of a lower ability as long as they care and put the effort in. None of the under performing ‘star players’ should be allowed the opportunity to put themselves in the shop window against Liverpool. For some of them even a place on the bench is too much. The attitude of last seasons players is, as many predicted, infecting all the new players and they are gradually louring themselves to the same level.

  • Tsunki

    Dec 1, 2015 at 8:03 AM

    Comment #4

    Shake what you like I think this lot are incapable. That’s not a knee jerking insult, it’s a fact. They aren’t good enough for this league, can’t be taught to do the basics and hold a pattern, can’t be motivated to chase down the ball when they don’t have it, all the basics.

  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Dec 1, 2015 at 8:04 AM

    Comment #5

    I was a F**in disgrace to hook Perez – OK having a bad game but for Lascalles and go for a 3-1 defeat.

    A bit of guts we could of got something out of the game as Palace were no great shakes until they scored the fourth goal.

    I think we need at least six points from the five games to be in the relegation mix come the start of the transfer window.

    If we pick nothing up and are cast adrift then I cannot see any-one that is half decent wanting to come to the TOON

    December Fixtures for bottom six

    Arsenal vs. Sunderland
    Southampton vs. Aston Villa
    Watford vs. Norwich City
    Chelsea vs. Bournemouth
    Newcastle United vs. Liverpool

    Norwich City vs. Everton
    Sunderland vs. Watford
    Bournemouth vs. Manchester United
    Aston Villa vs. Arsenal
    Tottenham Hotspur vs. Newcastle United

    Chelsea vs. Sunderland
    Manchester United vs. Norwich City
    West Bromwich Albion vs. Bournemouth
    Newcastle United vs. Aston Villa

    Aston Villa vs. West Ham United
    Bournemouth vs. Crystal Palace
    Manchester City vs. Sunderland
    Tottenham Hotspur vs. Norwich City
    Newcastle United vs. Everton

    Norwich City vs Aston Villa
    West Bromwich Albion vs .Newcastle United
    Arsenal vs. Bournemouth
    Sunderland vs. Liverpool

  • LGFUAD21

    Dec 1, 2015 at 8:06 AM

    Comment #6

    In response to the telegraph article.

    That’s Luke Edwards stirring again. We have to sell to buy as we have no room left in our squad allocation. We didn’t shift enough/any? Deadwood in the summer.

  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Dec 1, 2015 at 8:07 AM

    Comment #7

    I disagree. The players are capable of playing far better then they are, they are just lazy, and gutless. They have shown in the past they are more capable then they currently demonstrate. Drop the lazy and gutless players and put in some others who will dhow some fight and desire.

    At the minute we don’t have any of that, and it stems from the attitude of the club, head coach and the senior players.

  • Lindisfarne

    Dec 1, 2015 at 8:07 AM

    Comment #8

    Where is the team that got the 0-0 @ManU & 0-1 @Arsenal?

    Has the transition to the new philosophy given the players too much opportunity to slack off?

    Does Schtevie know what the individual players are capable of or have they downed tools with no risk of replacement?

  • firebug666

    Dec 1, 2015 at 8:08 AM

    Comment #9


    I would be hesitant to link with other groups as it may take the emphasis away from what we would be trying to achieve, (real change at Newcastle).

    For me it’s not about getting the fat slug out as he will just dig his heels in, I want him to take the club seriously and make the necessary changes to allow the club to compete with the rest of the league.

    Basically the owner need educating and pointing in the right direction, so for me it is about forcing HIM to change his Scrooge like ways.

  • cyprus

    Dec 1, 2015 at 8:08 AM

    Comment #10

    I read you didn’t watch the whole thing. For the record, neither of us got it right. Siss was as bad as Cabs (who was mercifully subbed) , and vice versa 🙂 Wini was worse than those two, if possible. Don’t get that one. Perez was terrible! Amazing, given that he’s been our best for ages.Mitro is obviously not happy at being singled out in the mid week skirmishes.

    The difference was their speed merchants Bolasie and Zaha. The minute they got the ball we’d curl into a foetus position.

    Pathetic really. Mike, if we don’t get a win out of the next two games (hard ain’t it, given the fixtures), fire his axx. And definitely Carr’s.

    Got it all wrong, it would seem. Time’s running out mate.

  • Lindisfarne

    Dec 1, 2015 at 8:12 AM

    Comment #11


    If we beat just Villa is that 6 points?

  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Dec 1, 2015 at 8:12 AM

    Comment #12

    In fairness I don’t see many points for any of the struggling teams there. I think we have to beat West Brom and Villa, and get a point minimum against Everton. The other two will be bonus points. Still, two more defeats before the Villa game and our lot could be feeling too sorry for themselves to muster anything against Villa.

    McClaren needs to be strong in the face of adversity, I think the pressure is too much. I don’t see him turning it around, but at the same time I don’t see the club acting till it is probably too late. Who would come in to manage and/or play if we are cut adrift in Jan? Austin? Nope, Matip? Nope, Shelvey? Nope.

    Change is needed now, either through his team selection or a change in head coach. I just don’t see either happening.

  • banjax

    Dec 1, 2015 at 8:13 AM

    Comment #13

    I see the latest pearls of inspirational wisdom came from McLaren’s training session on Sunday where he asked the players ‘not to give up..’ Surely he didn’t say that and if he did it looks like he has thrown himself onto the mercy of the players as to whether THEY decide to play for the whole match against Liverpool. Is this really what we want to hear when the opposite should have happened in the players should have been ripped into with gusto about their gutless performance’s and their lack of pride in playing for Newcastle. Furthermore they should have had performance penalties of 80% of their pay levied against themselves. This is no way to run a football team.

  • firebug666

    Dec 1, 2015 at 8:16 AM

    Comment #14


    There is a point there, If you do not do your job at work you don’t get paid, I would implement that with this lazy shower.

  • Lindisfarne

    Dec 1, 2015 at 8:18 AM

    Comment #15

    50, 000 picket line during the next International break, or after being knocked out the FA Cup, blocking the enterance to SD distribution centre for the day.

  • firebug666

    Dec 1, 2015 at 8:22 AM

    Comment #16


    Or a week even.

  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Dec 1, 2015 at 8:25 AM

    Comment #17

    I can’t see him changing his ways. Surely he would have already if he felt it was worth his while? It clearly isn’t so we step from one blunder to another. NUFC fans on their own won’t be able to create enough issues. Take out the old, the ill, the too young and those who simply aren’t motivated and there probably aren’t enough left to have any significant impact on SD – a multinational corporation. We would struggle to scratch the surface on our own.

    Cabaye might not have had a major impact, but he won the ball more times then all of our midfielders. He also retained possession better than any of our midfielders except Colback. I’d swap him for any of our midfielders in a heartbeat.

    I think McClaren got it badly wrong in his selection and substitutions. Gini has been poor most of the time since arriving. He isn’t a left winger though so why do we insist on continually playing him there? We don’t have wingers in the squad. Dropping Mitrovic was laughable, blaming a young centre forward who thrives on crosses into the box as a response for two woefully inept performances?

    Then to come out after and say we got a response? Who is he trying to kid? If that was a response then you have to wonder what question he was asking them? Can you play worse, if so prove it? The guy is cracking under the pressure and he can’t cope. It was always one of the major risks when appointing him.


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