Newcastle’s Choice – Change Or Continue Precipitous Decline

There’s a way to look at Newcastle’s pathetic start to this season in a positive way – it’s been so bad that the powers that be at Newcastle (namely Mike Ashley) should look at how the way the club is being run and realize it’s simply not working.

We can continue with the way it’s been run and we will probably end up in the Championship next season and after that – it’s anybody’s guess.

There’s too much control at Newcastle by the people who are running the club and it’s even like they don’t want to give up their power.

That could be  a statement solely about Mike Ashley.

worried looking mike ashley yesterday

Mike Ashley – will he change?
Can he change?

The manager is simply a coach who doesn’t get involved with the transfers and therefore it’s not surprising that Newcastle cannot build up a decent side.

Who’s actually in control of the Newcastle team?

And here’s a hint – it’s not the head coach or  manager – or whatever you want to call him.

We keep hearing it’s a long term deal that Newcastle entered into with Steve McClaren in the summer and therefore he will be given plenty of time to get it right.

– and that’s not a complimentThat’s may have been acceptable after our lucky win at Bournemouth a few weeks ago – but things seem to have just fallen apart in the last two games.

The team looks in complete disarray and the players don’t seem to know what they are doing  or what they are supposed to be doing.

That doesn’t reflect well on the coaching staff at all.

It’s making Steve McClaren look like he’s just not a strong enough character to handle the discipline of his players and get the best out of the players available.

He doesn’t seem to be much better than John Carver was.

We don’t think the players are as bad as they have looked this year and if we got a decent manager in then the performances would improve and pretty quickly too.

Just think how long it would take a classy, dedicated and experienced manager like Jurgen Klopp to make a difference at Newcastle and have St. James’ Park sold out again.

And Newcastle winning – whoa – I’m getting carried away again – must return to reality – hang on  a minute.


OK I’m back in the real world.

Mike Ashley,  Lee Charnley and Graham Carr want to keep the control they have in a system that hasn’t worked and will not work.

Steve McClaren should have only two games left to turn things around and if we are beaten by Liverpool and Tottenham it may be time to get a new manager in – before the Aston Villa game at home.

It would be a good time to get the fans back behind the team – but that’s only possible if we get a really good manager of the caliber of a David Moyes or Brendan Rodgers in.

But it has to be a top coach this time and not somebody who was just fired for failing at a Championship club.

We don’t mean to be nasty about  that – but that’s what Steve McClaren was when Lee Charnley appointed him, with the help of Graham Carr.

Did Lee Charnley really think Steve would be successful at Newcastle or does he just not have enough of a football background to realize the chances of success were very low at best?

Change is needed at Newcastle and now’s the time to do it – before it’s too late and we are locked in a  relegation fight for the rest of the season.

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28 comments so far

  • John Tudor

    Dec 2, 2015 at 2:28 PM

    Comment #1

    dont matter who can come in its down and down again for the fat man screw you

  • lesh

    Dec 2, 2015 at 2:28 PM

    Comment #2

    Repost from previous thread:

    A couple of questions for the next Fan Forum and for Charnley as MD in particular – if he has the balls to turn up: ‘What action are you taking as the Club’s MD, to ensure that the Club does not suffer a second relegation to the Championship in recent years?’ And ‘What are you doing to ensure that the Club wins a top trophy in the next few years and satisfies Mike Ashley’s wish?’ There’s room for tweaking them but whether Charnley has the guts to show his face is another matter. Maybe the questions or similar ones could be floated through the media?

  • magpie6699

    Dec 2, 2015 at 2:31 PM

    Comment #3

    I see a poll on the Mag website has resulted in 89% wanting Williamson instead of Coloccini.
    Reminds me of a story from years ago when a guy was held up at gunpoint in New York and asked “Jimmy Carter or Ronald Reagan for President?” After a while he eventually answered – “Go ahead – shoot!”

  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Dec 2, 2015 at 2:33 PM

    Comment #4

    I am not advocating we should fire Macca just yet, but if Lilongwe is right and lets say Macca walks within a few games and Charnley comes out san says “Macca leaving was a surprise and we have no backup plan” I swear to God I’ll drive up to Charnley myself and give him a good fonging!

    …I am sure both GT and beermonkey will join me 😉

  • mindshaft

    Dec 2, 2015 at 2:36 PM

    Comment #5

    David Moyes ??? Failed at Manure and Real Soc , he’s not much different from McClaren although even then you have to think would he even come to Newcastle.
    We are stuck in a bad rut and despite McClaren being on the board and having direct input into transfer goings on (albeit with age / cash restrictions) things have gone from bad to worse – a few glimmers of hope in defeats but the reality soon hit and he’s actually doing worse than Carver given he’s spent 50 million

  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Dec 2, 2015 at 2:37 PM

    Comment #6

    To quote Will Ferrell (about Charnley):

    …What? What an idiot! What a loser!

  • Graeme

    Dec 2, 2015 at 2:39 PM

    Comment #7

    Ed, your whole premis is simply wrong.

    The people you are talking about – Charnley, Carr, Moncur, McLaran have absolutely NO power whatsoever.

    They are there to do a job, which, quite simply, is whatever Ashley tells them to do. There is NO board as you would understand it, thats not how Ashley operates. He places his puppets where he needs them, to do his bidding and they get well paid for it.

    The problem is Mike Ashley. HE came up with the Player Recruitment Policy, not Charnley or Carr – he simply employs them to do his bidding.

    As long as NUFC serves it’s purpose of providing maximum exposure for SD, Ashley will continue. The thought of being relegated is probably starting to worry him – not because of NUFC, but because it will reduce the exposure that SD gets on world-wide TV coverage of the Premier League. That is probably the ONLY thing that gets his attention.

  • John Tudor

    Dec 2, 2015 at 2:57 PM

    Comment #8

    lets all go to preston la,la,la,la

  • optimistic prime

    Dec 2, 2015 at 3:06 PM

    Comment #9

    Walk Schteeve please…

    I wana see Charnley/Ashley squirm

  • John Tudor

    Dec 2, 2015 at 3:10 PM

    Comment #10

    he is gutless he wont in a millon years

  • nut meg

    Dec 2, 2015 at 3:23 PM

    Comment #11

    Don’t be too sure.If he thinks he’s getting sh*t on he might just do it knowing they’ll not have a plan to replace him and…..we all know how long it takes nufc to swoop!

  • John Tudor

    Dec 2, 2015 at 3:27 PM

    Comment #12

    he is just part of the ashley stripping crew

  • Tsunki

    Dec 2, 2015 at 3:28 PM

    Comment #13

    Steves best time to walk will be in February, he can cite lack of transfer activity and no backing from the board and still remain a credible employment option. If he stays until he is sacked he will end up being as good a prospect as JC. Or worse.

  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Dec 2, 2015 at 3:29 PM

    Comment #14

    Graeme…I think you are shooting a bit too high my friend 🙂

    …you are giving Ashley way to much credit!

  • Tsunki

    Dec 2, 2015 at 3:31 PM

    Comment #15

    Walk this wayyyy…
    Talk this way-ayyy…
    Walk this wayyyy…
    Talk this way-ayyyy…

  • Tsunki

    Dec 2, 2015 at 3:37 PM

    Comment #16

    Ashley will not want to go into the championship because the worldwide satellite as beaming will be marginal overnight. We will not have a team capable of bouncing back at the first try. He will be staring at a Bolton/Blackburn/Leeds scenario. That will not be the exposure SD wants. It might keep Wonga on board at a reduced rate, but I bet season ticket sales will drop drastically, and the TV money for definite will be a huge miss. Don’t buy into this ‘ it’s all small potatoes for our mega rich billionaire’ twaddle – this is a man whose life blood is every last pound he can squeeze from the working man. If he doesn’t spend big and take some action in January then he’s a fool or being fooled.

  • Tsunki

    Dec 2, 2015 at 3:38 PM

    Comment #17

    it’s a bit quiet midweek on here, when it’s right in the middle between humiliating beatings. 🙂

  • Munster Mag

    Dec 2, 2015 at 3:39 PM

    Comment #18

    Yes lets all go to preston. I will fly over for that. Pre match pints, post match pints, stay in manchester or newcastle nice curry, more pints. 5000 hard core geordies drowning out the locals. Pub nearest the station thronged with Toon. Sounds good to me. Fluck the premiership.

  • BandB

    Dec 2, 2015 at 3:54 PM

    Comment #19

    I think those on “the board” would have been keen to blame everything that happened in the second half of last season on “that idiot Carver.”

    Mike would have been happy to learn that negotiations to land a former England manager were going well. Not expensive, and willing to accept the restrictions.
    £40-odd million on players who fit the transfer profile to convince the fans a new leaf had been turned. Mid table, couple of rounds further in the cup.
    ‘Ow “and can it be?
    Little brisk rub of the hands and “job’s a good ‘un.”

    They seem to have thought a little bit of titivating things up, a good sweep round, and a lick of paint here and there would produce the cheap and cheerful effect they desired.
    That’s what the board would have told Ashley, knowing that’s what he wanted to hear.

    Lipstick on a pig.

  • Graeme

    Dec 2, 2015 at 4:14 PM

    Comment #20

    Jesper @ 14 – I’m happy to listen to alternatives mate, but just dont see any!!!

  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Dec 2, 2015 at 4:14 PM

    Comment #21

    Tsunki…don’t hope for relegation! Ashley will just give us another emergency loan 🙁

  • Graeme

    Dec 2, 2015 at 4:14 PM

    Comment #22

    BandB – aye, far too much lipstick as well!!

  • Graeme

    Dec 2, 2015 at 4:18 PM

    Comment #23

    Jesper – I remember these days well, its when I was a youngster at SJP. Very well written.

  • banjax

    Dec 2, 2015 at 4:19 PM

    Comment #24

    I can’t believe with so much dosh at stake, that Mike Ashley hasn’t taken advice outside of the bunch who are running Newcastle day to day. Mike Ashley is no mug and he knows that a (certain) defeat by Liverpool on Sunday will make the case for change irresistible, because the wheels will come off the club and the supporters in uproar. Any change will mean a massive upheaval and so for it to be done well a new management structure must be in place and ready to take over – that is what should happen – but I know this is Newcastle and the normal rules don’t apply. One thing is for sure Relegation and leaving until we lose yet another three points is moronic.

  • jimiley

    Dec 2, 2015 at 4:21 PM

    Comment #25

    Everybody knows the club is running on empty. The boil needs lancing and only a relegation or two will do the job. The Geordies cannot help themselves by staying away ( they are like lemmings watching their club go over a cliff face), so MR Tubbs must reap the rewards of the excrement he has served up. Bring on the Championship or even lower if it gets rid of the owner.

  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Dec 2, 2015 at 4:24 PM

    Comment #26

    Graeme…I don’t think it’s about alternatives, but more so about Ashley not being able to cook this up all by himself!

    The more likely scenario is somebody told him he could achieve what he wanted by running the club like this…the board have probably second that!

    Until someone he trust tells him otherwise or relegation is at the door don’t count on anything changing!

    Why do you assume with Ashley’s football knowledge or lack there of , that he has cooked this up all by himself?

  • jimiley

    Dec 2, 2015 at 4:24 PM

    Comment #27

    It would be an utter disaster for the club if the fat man spends big in January and we stay up by the skin of our teeth. It means another year in purgatory and another 80 million for you know who.

  • BandB

    Dec 2, 2015 at 4:26 PM

    Comment #28

    I imagine dealing like Ashley is a bit like dealing with Henry VIII.
    He likes things to go his way. On his terms.
    Imagine the board bobbing up and down in front of him, nervously wringing their caps and praying to God that he likes the latest princess’s portrait, and I think you’ve got the power dynamic sussed.


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