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McClaren Severely Punishes Players For Abject Display

10:16 am, Thursday, December 3rd, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 95 Comments

We have not watched the game against Crystal Palace again since the game ended on Saturday afternoon and the reason for that is whenever possible we don’t like to put ourselves through unnecessary mental pain and suffering.

And Newcastle fans have had enough pain and suffering  this year being served up by both the Newcastle players and the Newcastle club this year.

steve mcclaren - cheslea had just equalized

Steve McClaren trying to watch video of the Palace game?

But on the other hand, it seems really appropriate that our players were made to sit through watching the game at Palace.

The video of the game was played for the first team squad earlier this week and nobody was allowed to leave the room.

And let’s be straight about this – that’s severe  punishment indeed for the Newcastle players after yet another dreadful display.

The rumors are that a number of players asked to be excused to go to the bathroom (several times), but McClaren showed no mercy and refused the requests.

Many of our players  could be seen with their heads in their hands – peeping though to watch some of the mistakes they made during the game.

One or two even asked to be excused on religious grounds – but that got short shrift with McClaren.

Those are the rumors coming through in any case.


Last week Steve read the riot act to the players and that didn’t work – in fact – it made absolutely no difference – and if anything we were worse at Palace than we were against Leicester.

And yes – that’s saying something.

So this week he’s not laying into the players too much as he tries to find some way of motivating them.

It’s really a two-stage process – the first stage is to try to get them to want to play – and then the final stage is to try to get them to play well.

Steve seems to be having the same problems that John Carver had last season – the players don’t want to play for him and it seems they couldn’t care less.

If this current state of affairs cannot be turned around in a couple of games against Liverpool and Tottenham – then Mike Ashley may be forced to call time on Steve’s tenure at the club.

That’s in order to save Newcastle from another relegation – which would be a complete and utter nightmare.

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95 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Jib // Dec 3, 2015 at 10:20 AM

    Ashley In
    Tsunki act like a real fan

    If you were a real fan your reaction would be

    “Jeez I knew there were problems at the Toon but not this bad , get it sorted Steve we’re right behind you”

  • 2 hibbitt // Dec 3, 2015 at 10:23 AM

    what is a real fan ???????????????????

  • 3 toontaff2 // Dec 3, 2015 at 10:27 AM

    Severely punished them – he made them watch the Palace game video – now they know how we feel. Schteve also gave them lines, detention and told them all they were very naughty boys!
    Can we break a record on Sunday and be the first team to concede 10 in PL?

  • 4 Jib // Dec 3, 2015 at 10:28 AM

    an apparatus with rotating blades that creates a current of air for cooling or ventilation.

  • 5 Lilongwe Geordie // Dec 3, 2015 at 10:29 AM

    A lot of us knew how big the problems were, and complained about the lack of action and change that happened at the club over the summer. Many people said so on here.

    Maybe just the ‘real fans’ knew how bad it was and that is why they weren’t satisfied? Maybe this is exactly what the real fans expected after seeing cosmetic changes and very little improvement in the playing squad, and they are complaining because if they could see it, why couldn’t those working within the club?

    Maybe that is why many ‘real fans’ have lost confidence in the owner, board, policies, head coach? If the people paid to make the decisions don’t see the problems then should they be allowed to continue to make the decisions?

  • 6 SuperShearer // Dec 3, 2015 at 10:29 AM

    “The players don’t want to play for him” so there are a few solutions here:
    1. Drop those with that mentality.
    2. Sack all the players
    3. Sack and replace the manager.
    It’s weird how I’m sitting making annually less than what most of our players make in a week and I don’t have the choice of not “wanting” to play / work for my boss. Disgraceful the lot of them.

  • 7 hibbitt // Dec 3, 2015 at 10:36 AM

    waste of time trying to have a conversation with you jib maybe its you thats not the real fan

  • 8 Jail for Ashley // Dec 3, 2015 at 10:38 AM

    What were these whilesale changes that were made, the only difference I noted was that the club, theough a PR team started to send out e mails and more was spent on ‘investements’ to sell on, and I think that was more to do with seeing what they lost on Bony than trying to please the fans.

  • 9 Jib // Dec 3, 2015 at 10:38 AM

    Surely you of all people should know that within a squad the problems can be much more complicated and profound than the unqualified outside observer perceives.
    This is not the time for knee jerk reactions not least because personnel cannot be changed for 5 weeks.
    Constant harping whinging and whining which makes the whiner feel better is actually not helping the situation at all.

  • 10 Jail for Ashley // Dec 3, 2015 at 10:45 AM

    Yes the u qualified outside observer has no right at all to make the assumption that a club policy of deliberately exiting cups at the earliest opportunity while avoiding Europe at all costs would have a dire effect on a winning mentality!

  • 11 Lilongwe Geordie // Dec 3, 2015 at 10:46 AM

    It was fairly clear that a number of players didn’t have the attitude or aptitude to remain at the club. That is a part of why we go on terrible runs. It is also fairly clear that a number of the squad aren’t of the sufficient quality. This was not addressed during the summer, despite the “making our own luck” comment.

    It was also fairly clear, without needing inside info, that a board consisting of a chief scout, head coach and club ambassador was about as poor as they come.

    2 wins so far this season, dumped out of the cup by a Championship reserve side – we were going to make a go of the cups remember. I’d ut McClaren from first team duties and employ someone who can organise and handle the pressure. If he wants to be on the board, then let him be. Remove Carr from the board and allow McClaren to oversee the youth development and the pathways for young players coming through.

    Get rid of Moncur from the board and employ a high calibre strategist from within or outside of sports, provided he has a sports background in some way.

    All of that could be done immediately and would stand us in far greater stead as we approach the January window.

  • 12 Lilongwe Geordie // Dec 3, 2015 at 10:49 AM

    *I’d oust McClaren from first team duties….

  • 13 Jib // Dec 3, 2015 at 10:50 AM

    On FIFA
    Surely the problems started when in the pursuit of Democracy every member was given an equal vote
    You have Honduras with a population of 8 million and about 2000 serious players versus Mexico with a population of of 122 million and 500,000 serious players
    Yet both have the same voting rights within FIFA , this is an open invitation for corruption and vice.

  • 14 hibbitt // Dec 3, 2015 at 10:50 AM

    jib………..Constant harping whinging and whining which makes the whiner feel better is actually not helping the situation at all…………..maybe you should practise what you preach and just shut up

  • 15 Rotonda heights // Dec 3, 2015 at 10:51 AM

    I think it’s pretty much a given most of us on here are genuine fans, otherwise we are wasting a hell of a lot of our own personal time.

    You’ll always get people with stunted mental growth patterns who start up the whole playground ” I’m a bigger fan than you” BS. They are to be pitied rather than decried.

  • 16 Rotonda heights // Dec 3, 2015 at 10:53 AM


    spot on. your best comments to date.

  • 17 Lilongwe Geordie // Dec 3, 2015 at 10:53 AM

    I agree, my use of ‘real fans’ was merely a reference to Jib’s use of the phrase.

  • 18 Lilongwe Geordie // Dec 3, 2015 at 10:55 AM


  • 19 hibbitt // Dec 3, 2015 at 10:59 AM

    lillo……….good read well put agree on all points now if we could get ashley to read it we might just have a chance

  • 20 Our Toon // Dec 3, 2015 at 10:59 AM

    I blame mcclaren and would absolve him of any blame if he had the balls to drop Colo and Janmaat etc.

    Those defending mcclaren keep coming back to the transfer policy, mcclaren picks the team doesn’t he? We don’t even defend as a team because they all look unfit to be able to do it and press high up the pitch….again this is the managers fault, organising and fitness is key. Not picking the same lot and hoping for a change!!

  • 21 lochinvar // Dec 3, 2015 at 11:01 AM

    Arbroath 36–0 Bon Accord is the result of a football match between Arbroath and Bon Accord which took place on 12 September 1885

    Not even Pardew could break that record !

  • 22 Tsunki // Dec 3, 2015 at 11:09 AM

    Oh to be noticed Ray! You are indeed a real fan. The kind that expels a great deal of waste hot air

  • 23 Average_Contents // Dec 3, 2015 at 11:10 AM

    Shteve’s definition of the riot act and changing things around was to drop a 21 year old striker new to the premiership who receives little or no service and support (when he does it’s shite anyway) yet keep the real shirkers in the team who have for whatever reason been under performing for years. Yeah you colamity and shirkoko, aswell as a few others.

    At least mitro has passion and fight.

    Wait a go shteve. You stamp that fake authority down. Whilst your at it, cut that silly fcuking tuft of hair off the front of your swede you buffoon.

  • 24 Goldmbemba // Dec 3, 2015 at 11:11 AM

    I wish MCclaren would choose players based on merit rather than who he ‘thinks’ his best players are.

    At least give someone with a point to prove a chance with a start, not bringing on de jong or thauvin with 9 minutes remaining.

    Prem History seems to suggest that:

    a) once a manager has lost the team then its virtually season over

    b) if the above has happened, most clubs will do the necessary and find a replacement before its too late.

    Well…. most clubs would do that…

  • 25 John Tudor // Dec 3, 2015 at 11:15 AM

    mucca couldn’t turn around a fcukin revolving door

  • 26 firebug666 // Dec 3, 2015 at 11:16 AM

    When Steve was touted I didn’t want him anywhere near our club, When he was hired, I accepted it and decided to give him a chance, Let’s face it it couldn’t be worse than last season could it?

    Well Steve has had his chance, yes it is worse than last season, it’s time for him to do the honourable thing and Phuck Off!

  • 27 geordie157 // Dec 3, 2015 at 11:17 AM

    If we go a goal down early on Sunday, we’re in for a serious battering! I think 6-0 will be the score.

    Whilst blame does sit partly with McLaren, yet again the decision not to sign a commanding centre back is the main problem. Every side needs several leaders…we don’t really have any.

    We can juggle the formation, players, tactics, it really doesn’t matter because until the centre back issue is resolved nothing will change.

    Mbemba has the potential to be a top defender but he needs an Ashley Williams type player to lead the defence. Even coloccini to be fair would improve if he had that sort of player alongside him.

    Liverpool will need to have a real off day for us to get anything.

    I do however think McLaren can turn it around but the board need to let him get the players he wants, he’s now had time to assess the squad properly.

    Time to give marveaux one last chance too, he’s one of only a few players we have that can play a killer pass. I think he’d link up well with Perez and mitrovic.

  • 28 John Tudor // Dec 3, 2015 at 11:24 AM

    why stop at 6

  • 29 Average_Contents // Dec 3, 2015 at 11:26 AM

    Firebug from previous

    Nice team mate. Unfortunately you’d be sticking square pegs in round holes with me on the right. I’m a lefty and a striker at that. Well I used to be lol.

  • 30 firebug666 // Dec 3, 2015 at 11:27 AM

    I think they will score early, they will pass the ball around our static played at speed then blast a shot goalwards as Coloccini turns his back and ducks, with Elliot nowhere near saving it 0-1 inside 10 minutes.

  • 31 Jib // Dec 3, 2015 at 11:27 AM

    I see Ginger Parlour and Tony Gale are saying the same as me on SSN.

    McClaren an acknowledged above average coach should be more pragmatic and take a leaf out of Fat Sam’s book and sometimes park the bus and grind out a draw and hope to get lucky.

    I wonder if it is a pride thing ?

  • 32 firebug666 // Dec 3, 2015 at 11:29 AM


    Sorry mate, but you see how it is, if players were played in their proper position what sort of message would that send to the fans.

  • 33 BandB // Dec 3, 2015 at 11:32 AM

    The Head Coach model has it’s roots in the growing acquisition of football clubs to larger commercial portfolios.
    This has led increasingly to players being regarded as investments in assets by the portfolio rather than “getting in the lad who can play a bit.”
    Where it works well, the needs of the team itself are taken into account, driven by the sensible requirement to see the player thrive personally, and succeed in a team context, while hopefully gaining or maintaining value.
    Where it fails it is when they are purchased and sold as an exercise in asset speculation, with only the most secondary regard to their impact on the team as a whole.
    The clubs that have adopted this second policy are all failing.
    Carr works as an agent for Ashley on his asset portfolio. The question of why his purchases don’t fit into the team simply misses the point of his role.

  • 34 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Dec 3, 2015 at 11:35 AM

    Those who think we will get thumped – sadly including me here are the biggest defeats

    Highest scoring loss 9 Newcastle United 1 Sunderland 9, 05.12.1908

    Highest losing margin 8 Newcastle United 1 Sunderland 9, 05.12.1908

    Highest scoring loss 9 Burton Wanderers 9 Newcastle United 0, 15.04.1895

  • 35 BandB // Dec 3, 2015 at 11:41 AM

    Of course there will be more failures than successes.
    But a big success can more than outweigh the effect of several failed punts.
    And there is constant pressure to get those who failed to bloom off the books. There is pressure to get those who don’t make the match-day squad out on loans that may lead to sales.
    But Ashley seems happy if the likes of Gouffran, Obertan and Williamson HAVE to be utilised, and seems to show little concern for the effects of this on the team.

  • 36 Jib // Dec 3, 2015 at 11:42 AM

    B and B

    You seem to be making a fair point but it is flawed when you get to Carr and NUFC.

    The club has stated a few times that several candidates for a type of player for a particular role will be located THEN the template is applied .
    In other words the youngest and better value player of 4 or 5 similar standard players will be chosen.
    Logical really.

  • 37 firebug666 // Dec 3, 2015 at 11:45 AM

    Jib @36

    I don’t know if you have noticed but the club tells lies.

  • 38 BandB // Dec 3, 2015 at 11:46 AM



    But as in all logic, if the template is flawed, the result will be flawed.

    Logic doesn’t guarantee truth. It works on the principle of Rubbish In = Rubbish Out.

  • 39 John Tudor // Dec 3, 2015 at 11:47 AM

    google off

  • 40 Jib // Dec 3, 2015 at 11:53 AM

    Paul Merson
    “A Liverpool win should be banker of the week – but he’s been in football long enough to know the EPL is quite capable of shocking everyone with a result”

  • 41 Jib // Dec 3, 2015 at 11:55 AM

    John Tudor
    What are you scared of ?
    Engage in discussion you big softy.
    B and B will assure you I don’t bite.

  • 42 BandB // Dec 3, 2015 at 11:56 AM

    He gums a bit though.

  • 43 John Tudor // Dec 3, 2015 at 11:58 AM

    scared of
    don’t make me laff
    condescending half wit googler

  • 44 BandB // Dec 3, 2015 at 11:59 AM

    Seriously though Jibbers,
    It would be a dark day for this blog if you ever gave up.

  • 45 AncientC // Dec 3, 2015 at 11:59 AM

    How is buying the best value for money players logical if they don’t fit into a team philosophy.

    It’s not even logical from a financial viewpoint, as the players purchased are less likely to gain value in a poorly constructed side.

    Ashley is the perfect example of the dunning-kruger effect when it comes to running a football club.

  • 46 John Tudor // Dec 3, 2015 at 11:59 AM

    i have no intention of interacting with a self opinionated moronic butt wipe

  • 47 John Tudor // Dec 3, 2015 at 12:01 PM

    you come on here deriding everyone ones opinion who disagrees with you and your google quotes gegone buffoon

  • 48 Jail for Ashley // Dec 3, 2015 at 12:01 PM

    They also said a players character has to be assesed, he must be the type of player who will go on strike to force a move if it means a knock down price for us. After scouting players with the right mentality for four years we now have a full squad of players who don’t want to be here and would you believe it, very likely go on strike to get a move out of here.

  • 49 firebug666 // Dec 3, 2015 at 12:02 PM

    Do we pick the best player of the bunch? No!

    Do we pick the best value for money? No!

    Do we pick the cheapest option? Yes!

  • 50 BandB // Dec 3, 2015 at 12:17 PM


    One of the “logical” pitfalls of signing players as individual assets with little thought to their utility to the team is that are likely to think as individuals and play as individuals.
    It’s compounded by selling the move of the basis of what they might achieve for their NEXT club.
    Everyone is in transit. No-one is thinking of the here and now. Everyone is playing for themselves, either showboating for themselves or hiding to avoid taking any responsibility.
    Team spirit must be hard to engender in those circumstances.

  • 51 ilovetoon8788 // Dec 3, 2015 at 12:21 PM

    i got a feeling liverpool gonna hammer us 10-0 on Sunday.

  • 52 John Tudor // Dec 3, 2015 at 12:21 PM

    but back mucca and penfold and cretin ashley they’ll get it right

  • 53 BandB // Dec 3, 2015 at 12:24 PM


    Many Sports Direct store look like a jumble sale.
    It doesn’t matter whether stuff if on the shelves or on the floor, it still sells.
    That may be the thinking at work here.

  • 54 Rotonda heights // Dec 3, 2015 at 12:26 PM

    BandB at 44

    Reverse psychology there perhaps?
    You’re kind of right I guess. But should you laugh at someone whose ego continually sets himself like that to get a response.

  • 55 Jib // Dec 3, 2015 at 12:26 PM

    B and B
    I see you lot as a bunch of chinless public schoolers sitting on the Tory side of the house calling all and sundry plebs.

    Whereas :-

    (fanfare of trumpets)

    I am the freedom-loving , fair-minded , empathetic , kind , campaigning , caring , Jeremy Corbyn of the blog.

  • 56 BandB // Dec 3, 2015 at 12:28 PM

    You are a remarkable fellow.

    A Corbynesque Ashley sycophant.

  • 57 Jail for Ashley // Dec 3, 2015 at 12:33 PM

    I imagined you more as a far right Cyril Smith

  • 58 John Tudor // Dec 3, 2015 at 12:35 PM

    more like thatcher fcukin hated

  • 59 John Tudor // Dec 3, 2015 at 12:36 PM

    and keep politics off the blog

  • 60 Jail for Ashley // Dec 3, 2015 at 12:38 PM

    I wonder how many times Jib tried to get in to the metropolitan police force in the early eighties before giving up and becoming a professor of Google translate

  • 61 John Tudor // Dec 3, 2015 at 12:39 PM

    some people are like clouds
    once they fcuk off its a beautiful day!

  • 62 Jail for Ashley // Dec 3, 2015 at 12:40 PM

    Is Mclaren allowed to drop Collocini, we’ll find out at three o clock on Sunday.

  • 63 BandB // Dec 3, 2015 at 12:42 PM

    I don’t see why anyone should nurse a visceral hatred for a unknown persona on a blog.
    It seems to lack perspective.
    Jib at least names the subjects of his attacks….random as they are.
    I loved Wile E Coyote.
    I didn’t mind that it was exactly the same story every day.
    Jet packs, roller skates, canyons, medium-sized predators being whacked with anvils….. all intent and no result…..still leaves me weeping like a child, even today.
    Shopping time….might sneak in some housey later.

  • 64 John Tudor // Dec 3, 2015 at 12:43 PM

    colli will be first name penned in the team shite

  • 65 Jib // Dec 3, 2015 at 12:43 PM

    Jail mention of the horizontally challenged late Cyril Smith could really upset your boyfriend Chun Ki (he’s relly sensitive about his weight)

  • 66 hibbitt // Dec 3, 2015 at 12:43 PM

    jail its in his contract if he wants to play he has to play after all it is his ball

  • 67 John Tudor // Dec 3, 2015 at 12:43 PM


  • 68 Jib // Dec 3, 2015 at 12:44 PM

    Haway the Hoosey Hoosey

  • 69 Jail for Ashley // Dec 3, 2015 at 12:44 PM

    I was going to mention Danny Simpson, I don’t think he’s Leicesters no 1 RB but looked very much part of the team when they took us apart, I wonder how much Jaanmatt would up his game if he had Simpson breathing down his neck, where do we have competition for places without affecting the quality of the team.

  • 70 BandB // Dec 3, 2015 at 12:46 PM

    It’s Howay……Jib

    Forgetting ourselves?

  • 71 Ron Knee // Dec 3, 2015 at 12:51 PM

    Love that photo of McClaren – a study in courage and determination.

  • 72 John Tudor // Dec 3, 2015 at 12:52 PM

    the man needs a discriminator tap

  • 73 Jib // Dec 3, 2015 at 12:55 PM

  • 74 mindshaft // Dec 3, 2015 at 12:56 PM

    On the upside it’s possible that our heaviest defeat will be taken away from Scumberland.

    How many Liverpool score is probably up to them – they may take their foot off the gas at 6 or 7 as they feel sorry for us, they might even let us score a goal out of embarrassment.
    Spuds game next week is likely to be worse as players will be hiding in dressing room

  • 75 mindshaft // Dec 3, 2015 at 12:58 PM

    Nice to see we still have some blind deluded people on here , 138 of them to be exact … not sure what they’ve been watching to think we can get a win … surprised they can get access to this site from mental institution

  • 76 Jail for Ashley // Dec 3, 2015 at 1:01 PM

    Williamson might come in from the cold and play like a man possesed, we can then scrap any silly ideas of buying a new CB in January.

  • 77 John Tudor // Dec 3, 2015 at 1:02 PM

    glib voted 138 times no doubt

  • 78 Jib // Dec 3, 2015 at 1:02 PM

    You McClaren haters.

    Be afraid – be very afraid.

    Steve is quoted in an interview that it took 18 months before Boro even began to function to his liking and NUFC seems to be in a worse state than Boro was then.

  • 79 Jib // Dec 3, 2015 at 1:05 PM

    Mr Tudor
    I never even voted once
    Polls on opinion OK , but on the result of a footy match ! Waste of time.

  • 80 Tsunki // Dec 3, 2015 at 1:09 PM

    Oh dear Ray, you are under the impression I have a problem with weight. Ok you run with that idea if you like.

  • 81 Jail for Ashley // Dec 3, 2015 at 1:12 PM

    I think it’s gone beyond being a Mclaren hater, I don’t think the crowd will turn on him either, he looks like a dead man walking anyway

  • 82 Jail for Ashley // Dec 3, 2015 at 1:14 PM

    He’s also quoted in saying we’re like watching a car crash and there’s nothing he can do about it. Applying the brakes would be a start

  • 83 John Tudor // Dec 3, 2015 at 1:15 PM

    afraid of what
    we know our fate is sealed you on the other hand clutch at straws and big up crap

  • 84 martoon // Dec 3, 2015 at 1:17 PM

    I have to say I normally look forward to going to home games because normally you think if we have a good day and turn up we could just scrape a win. However I’m dreading Sunday because you just can’t see anything but a heavy defeat – our only hope is if we play out of our skins and Liverpool don’t turn up because they are over-confident.

  • 85 Jail for Ashley // Dec 3, 2015 at 1:19 PM

    Some more of Steves quotes

  • 86 John Tudor // Dec 3, 2015 at 1:21 PM

    read a couple
    what a plonker

  • 87 WWSBRD // Dec 3, 2015 at 1:21 PM

    he could try dropping them instead of a film morning

  • 88 Jail for Ashley // Dec 3, 2015 at 1:23 PM

    Something has obviously happened at the club in between the Stoke and Bournemouth games, it genuinely looks like they have given up!

  • 89 c-dog // Dec 3, 2015 at 1:32 PM

    The transfer policy has not changed much. Yes there has been a increase in investment but the core principle is the same. Sign players who we can sell for a huge profit. All young and inexperienced PL players. The reason I imagine we don’t sign defenders(not including the odd bad one) is because their sell-on value rarely will match a midfielder or striker.

    Again I’ll stress, Tony Pulis should be offered a bumber deal to keep this club up.

  • 90 Jail for Ashley // Dec 3, 2015 at 1:35 PM

    Then what, sack him at the end of the season ?

  • 91 WWSBRD // Dec 3, 2015 at 1:37 PM

    Pulis? As Newcastle manager….

  • 92 dok - the horrid colonial // Dec 3, 2015 at 1:40 PM

    gmorning all,

    im glad for one, my son has a tournament this weekend, in which they are one of the favorites to win… means I don’t have to flagellate myself by watching the toon sunday….

  • 93 Jail for Ashley // Dec 3, 2015 at 1:44 PM

    Maybe scrapping the bonus might spur our bunch of mercanaries into action, I’m sure the return of form against W Ham last year was financially motivated.

  • 94 toonking // Dec 3, 2015 at 2:21 PM

    fire bug

    that was a great line up you did but i’d remove jesper and JFA.

    owner JFA- certainly has a huge demand and I can’t think of all bloggers he seem to react most angrily at those posting things he doesn’t like. so if you get a manager acting like jibs or welsh he’ll certainly get in there face and warn them.

    manager jesper- some might have thought catchy would have been the one i’d go with but when looking at posts jesper himself looks like the most consistant talker about managers and although he is against ashley I think he has the greatest belief of a decent one still getting appointed. Rotanta can be his assistant

  • 95 ic0gcds00 // Dec 4, 2015 at 7:01 AM

    I never thought I would of said this till now.
    We should of appointed (and ashley should of ate humble pie ) in bringing back
    Big Sam.
    We would of been a much better team than we are now.
    What a mess.

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