McClaren Severely Punishes Players For Abject Display

We have not watched the game against Crystal Palace again since the game ended on Saturday afternoon and the reason for that is whenever possible we don’t like to put ourselves through unnecessary mental pain and suffering.

And Newcastle fans have had enough pain and suffering  this year being served up by both the Newcastle players and the Newcastle club this year.

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Steve McClaren trying to watch video of the Palace game?

But on the other hand, it seems really appropriate that our players were made to sit through watching the game at Palace.

The video of the game was played for the first team squad earlier this week and nobody was allowed to leave the room.

And let’s be straight about this – that’s severe  punishment indeed for the Newcastle players after yet another dreadful display.

The rumors are that a number of players asked to be excused to go to the bathroom (several times), but McClaren showed no mercy and refused the requests.

Many of our players  could be seen with their heads in their hands – peeping though to watch some of the mistakes they made during the game.

One or two even asked to be excused on religious grounds – but that got short shrift with McClaren.

Those are the rumors coming through in any case.


Last week Steve read the riot act to the players and that didn’t work – in fact – it made absolutely no difference – and if anything we were worse at Palace than we were against Leicester.

And yes – that’s saying something.

So this week he’s not laying into the players too much as he tries to find some way of motivating them.

It’s really a two-stage process – the first stage is to try to get them to want to play – and then the final stage is to try to get them to play well.

Steve seems to be having the same problems that John Carver had last season – the players don’t want to play for him and it seems they couldn’t care less.

If this current state of affairs cannot be turned around in a couple of games against Liverpool and Tottenham – then Mike Ashley may be forced to call time on Steve’s tenure at the club.

That’s in order to save Newcastle from another relegation – which would be a complete and utter nightmare.

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95 comments so far

  • Jib

    Dec 3, 2015 at 10:20 AM

    Comment #1

    Ashley In
    Tsunki act like a real fan

    If you were a real fan your reaction would be

    “Jeez I knew there were problems at the Toon but not this bad , get it sorted Steve we’re right behind you”

  • hibbitt

    Dec 3, 2015 at 10:23 AM

    Comment #2

    what is a real fan ???????????????????

  • toontaff2

    Dec 3, 2015 at 10:27 AM

    Comment #3

    Severely punished them – he made them watch the Palace game video – now they know how we feel. Schteve also gave them lines, detention and told them all they were very naughty boys!
    Can we break a record on Sunday and be the first team to concede 10 in PL?

  • Jib

    Dec 3, 2015 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #4

    an apparatus with rotating blades that creates a current of air for cooling or ventilation.

  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Dec 3, 2015 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #5

    A lot of us knew how big the problems were, and complained about the lack of action and change that happened at the club over the summer. Many people said so on here.

    Maybe just the ‘real fans’ knew how bad it was and that is why they weren’t satisfied? Maybe this is exactly what the real fans expected after seeing cosmetic changes and very little improvement in the playing squad, and they are complaining because if they could see it, why couldn’t those working within the club?

    Maybe that is why many ‘real fans’ have lost confidence in the owner, board, policies, head coach? If the people paid to make the decisions don’t see the problems then should they be allowed to continue to make the decisions?

  • SuperShearer

    Dec 3, 2015 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #6

    “The players don’t want to play for him” so there are a few solutions here:
    1. Drop those with that mentality.
    2. Sack all the players
    3. Sack and replace the manager.
    It’s weird how I’m sitting making annually less than what most of our players make in a week and I don’t have the choice of not “wanting” to play / work for my boss. Disgraceful the lot of them.

  • hibbitt

    Dec 3, 2015 at 10:36 AM

    Comment #7

    waste of time trying to have a conversation with you jib maybe its you thats not the real fan

  • Jail for Ashley

    Dec 3, 2015 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #8

    What were these whilesale changes that were made, the only difference I noted was that the club, theough a PR team started to send out e mails and more was spent on ‘investements’ to sell on, and I think that was more to do with seeing what they lost on Bony than trying to please the fans.

  • Jib

    Dec 3, 2015 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #9

    Surely you of all people should know that within a squad the problems can be much more complicated and profound than the unqualified outside observer perceives.
    This is not the time for knee jerk reactions not least because personnel cannot be changed for 5 weeks.
    Constant harping whinging and whining which makes the whiner feel better is actually not helping the situation at all.

  • Jail for Ashley

    Dec 3, 2015 at 10:45 AM

    Comment #10

    Yes the u qualified outside observer has no right at all to make the assumption that a club policy of deliberately exiting cups at the earliest opportunity while avoiding Europe at all costs would have a dire effect on a winning mentality!

  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Dec 3, 2015 at 10:46 AM

    Comment #11

    It was fairly clear that a number of players didn’t have the attitude or aptitude to remain at the club. That is a part of why we go on terrible runs. It is also fairly clear that a number of the squad aren’t of the sufficient quality. This was not addressed during the summer, despite the “making our own luck” comment.

    It was also fairly clear, without needing inside info, that a board consisting of a chief scout, head coach and club ambassador was about as poor as they come.

    2 wins so far this season, dumped out of the cup by a Championship reserve side – we were going to make a go of the cups remember. I’d ut McClaren from first team duties and employ someone who can organise and handle the pressure. If he wants to be on the board, then let him be. Remove Carr from the board and allow McClaren to oversee the youth development and the pathways for young players coming through.

    Get rid of Moncur from the board and employ a high calibre strategist from within or outside of sports, provided he has a sports background in some way.

    All of that could be done immediately and would stand us in far greater stead as we approach the January window.

  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Dec 3, 2015 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #12

    *I’d oust McClaren from first team duties….

  • Jib

    Dec 3, 2015 at 10:50 AM

    Comment #13

    On FIFA
    Surely the problems started when in the pursuit of Democracy every member was given an equal vote
    You have Honduras with a population of 8 million and about 2000 serious players versus Mexico with a population of of 122 million and 500,000 serious players
    Yet both have the same voting rights within FIFA , this is an open invitation for corruption and vice.

  • hibbitt

    Dec 3, 2015 at 10:50 AM

    Comment #14

    jib………..Constant harping whinging and whining which makes the whiner feel better is actually not helping the situation at all…………..maybe you should practise what you preach and just shut up

  • Rotonda heights

    Dec 3, 2015 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #15

    I think it’s pretty much a given most of us on here are genuine fans, otherwise we are wasting a hell of a lot of our own personal time.

    You’ll always get people with stunted mental growth patterns who start up the whole playground ” I’m a bigger fan than you” BS. They are to be pitied rather than decried.

  • Rotonda heights

    Dec 3, 2015 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #16


    spot on. your best comments to date.

  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Dec 3, 2015 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #17

    I agree, my use of ‘real fans’ was merely a reference to Jib’s use of the phrase.

  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Dec 3, 2015 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #18


  • hibbitt

    Dec 3, 2015 at 10:59 AM

    Comment #19

    lillo……….good read well put agree on all points now if we could get ashley to read it we might just have a chance

  • Our Toon

    Dec 3, 2015 at 10:59 AM

    Comment #20

    I blame mcclaren and would absolve him of any blame if he had the balls to drop Colo and Janmaat etc.

    Those defending mcclaren keep coming back to the transfer policy, mcclaren picks the team doesn’t he? We don’t even defend as a team because they all look unfit to be able to do it and press high up the pitch….again this is the managers fault, organising and fitness is key. Not picking the same lot and hoping for a change!!

  • lochinvar

    Dec 3, 2015 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #21

    Arbroath 36–0 Bon Accord is the result of a football match between Arbroath and Bon Accord which took place on 12 September 1885

    Not even Pardew could break that record !

  • Tsunki

    Dec 3, 2015 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #22

    Oh to be noticed Ray! You are indeed a real fan. The kind that expels a great deal of waste hot air

  • Average_Contents

    Dec 3, 2015 at 11:10 AM

    Comment #23

    Shteve’s definition of the riot act and changing things around was to drop a 21 year old striker new to the premiership who receives little or no service and support (when he does it’s shite anyway) yet keep the real shirkers in the team who have for whatever reason been under performing for years. Yeah you colamity and shirkoko, aswell as a few others.

    At least mitro has passion and fight.

    Wait a go shteve. You stamp that fake authority down. Whilst your at it, cut that silly fcuking tuft of hair off the front of your swede you buffoon.

  • Goldmbemba

    Dec 3, 2015 at 11:11 AM

    Comment #24

    I wish MCclaren would choose players based on merit rather than who he ‘thinks’ his best players are.

    At least give someone with a point to prove a chance with a start, not bringing on de jong or thauvin with 9 minutes remaining.

    Prem History seems to suggest that:

    a) once a manager has lost the team then its virtually season over

    b) if the above has happened, most clubs will do the necessary and find a replacement before its too late.

    Well…. most clubs would do that…

  • John Tudor

    Dec 3, 2015 at 11:15 AM

    Comment #25

    mucca couldn’t turn around a fcukin revolving door

  • firebug666

    Dec 3, 2015 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #26

    When Steve was touted I didn’t want him anywhere near our club, When he was hired, I accepted it and decided to give him a chance, Let’s face it it couldn’t be worse than last season could it?

    Well Steve has had his chance, yes it is worse than last season, it’s time for him to do the honourable thing and Phuck Off!

  • geordie157

    Dec 3, 2015 at 11:17 AM

    Comment #27

    If we go a goal down early on Sunday, we’re in for a serious battering! I think 6-0 will be the score.

    Whilst blame does sit partly with McLaren, yet again the decision not to sign a commanding centre back is the main problem. Every side needs several leaders…we don’t really have any.

    We can juggle the formation, players, tactics, it really doesn’t matter because until the centre back issue is resolved nothing will change.

    Mbemba has the potential to be a top defender but he needs an Ashley Williams type player to lead the defence. Even coloccini to be fair would improve if he had that sort of player alongside him.

    Liverpool will need to have a real off day for us to get anything.

    I do however think McLaren can turn it around but the board need to let him get the players he wants, he’s now had time to assess the squad properly.

    Time to give marveaux one last chance too, he’s one of only a few players we have that can play a killer pass. I think he’d link up well with Perez and mitrovic.

  • John Tudor

    Dec 3, 2015 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #28

    why stop at 6

  • Average_Contents

    Dec 3, 2015 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #29

    Firebug from previous

    Nice team mate. Unfortunately you’d be sticking square pegs in round holes with me on the right. I’m a lefty and a striker at that. Well I used to be lol.

  • firebug666

    Dec 3, 2015 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #30

    I think they will score early, they will pass the ball around our static played at speed then blast a shot goalwards as Coloccini turns his back and ducks, with Elliot nowhere near saving it 0-1 inside 10 minutes.

  • Jib

    Dec 3, 2015 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #31

    I see Ginger Parlour and Tony Gale are saying the same as me on SSN.

    McClaren an acknowledged above average coach should be more pragmatic and take a leaf out of Fat Sam’s book and sometimes park the bus and grind out a draw and hope to get lucky.

    I wonder if it is a pride thing ?

  • firebug666

    Dec 3, 2015 at 11:29 AM

    Comment #32


    Sorry mate, but you see how it is, if players were played in their proper position what sort of message would that send to the fans.

  • BandB

    Dec 3, 2015 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #33

    The Head Coach model has it’s roots in the growing acquisition of football clubs to larger commercial portfolios.
    This has led increasingly to players being regarded as investments in assets by the portfolio rather than “getting in the lad who can play a bit.”
    Where it works well, the needs of the team itself are taken into account, driven by the sensible requirement to see the player thrive personally, and succeed in a team context, while hopefully gaining or maintaining value.
    Where it fails it is when they are purchased and sold as an exercise in asset speculation, with only the most secondary regard to their impact on the team as a whole.
    The clubs that have adopted this second policy are all failing.
    Carr works as an agent for Ashley on his asset portfolio. The question of why his purchases don’t fit into the team simply misses the point of his role.

  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Dec 3, 2015 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #34

    Those who think we will get thumped – sadly including me here are the biggest defeats

    Highest scoring loss 9 Newcastle United 1 Sunderland 9, 05.12.1908

    Highest losing margin 8 Newcastle United 1 Sunderland 9, 05.12.1908

    Highest scoring loss 9 Burton Wanderers 9 Newcastle United 0, 15.04.1895

  • BandB

    Dec 3, 2015 at 11:41 AM

    Comment #35

    Of course there will be more failures than successes.
    But a big success can more than outweigh the effect of several failed punts.
    And there is constant pressure to get those who failed to bloom off the books. There is pressure to get those who don’t make the match-day squad out on loans that may lead to sales.
    But Ashley seems happy if the likes of Gouffran, Obertan and Williamson HAVE to be utilised, and seems to show little concern for the effects of this on the team.

  • Jib

    Dec 3, 2015 at 11:42 AM

    Comment #36

    B and B

    You seem to be making a fair point but it is flawed when you get to Carr and NUFC.

    The club has stated a few times that several candidates for a type of player for a particular role will be located THEN the template is applied .
    In other words the youngest and better value player of 4 or 5 similar standard players will be chosen.
    Logical really.

  • firebug666

    Dec 3, 2015 at 11:45 AM

    Comment #37

    Jib @36

    I don’t know if you have noticed but the club tells lies.

  • BandB

    Dec 3, 2015 at 11:46 AM

    Comment #38



    But as in all logic, if the template is flawed, the result will be flawed.

    Logic doesn’t guarantee truth. It works on the principle of Rubbish In = Rubbish Out.

  • John Tudor

    Dec 3, 2015 at 11:47 AM

    Comment #39

    google off

  • Jib

    Dec 3, 2015 at 11:53 AM

    Comment #40

    Paul Merson
    “A Liverpool win should be banker of the week – but he’s been in football long enough to know the EPL is quite capable of shocking everyone with a result”


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