McClaren Has Even More Trouble To Deal With At Newcastle

The Mail is reporting that Steve McClaren is having to deal with even more trouble at Newcastle and this time it’s some disagreement between two of his coaching staff.

The Mail reports that psychology guru Steve Black and head fitness coach Alessandro Schoenmaker are not in agreement over training methods.

Black believes the players are doing too much training in the gym which is why they are picking up so many injuries.

steve mcclaren with alesando schoenmaker

Alessandro Schoenmaker and Steve McClaren 

And for his part Alessandro Schoenmaker is not happy that Black is interfering with his coaching sessions.

It seems that McClaren has sided with Black which has not surprisingly made the Dutch coach unhappy.

Newcastle’s injury record has been very poor over a number of seasons but there is no sign at all that it has got any better this season and we are still at the top of the Premier League Injury table.

Here is the current Injury Table where one point is given when one player misses one Premier League game through injury.

inury league

The Dutchman previously worked with McClaren at FC Twente, Wolfsburg, Nottingham Forest and Derby County, but it seems like his methods so far have not worked very well.

steve black closeup at newcastle

Steve Black

It’s an embarrassment that Mike Williamson returned from his loan spell at Wolves and was injured within a couple of days of training this week.

We don’t know if this report is accurate, but it seems the coaches in addition to the players are under tremendous pressure to turn things around and quickly too.

This kind of infighting will help nobody.

Comments welcome.

31 comments so far

  • expatmag

    Dec 5, 2015 at 1:45 AM

    Comment #1

    This club is “rooted” from top to bottom. I see no resolution whilst Ashley is the owner do for the fans, start preparing for the worst with relegation definite as far as I am concerned with a major firesale in the summer and the club negotiating the championship with a combination of academy kids, freebies and journeymen.

  • Blofal

    Dec 5, 2015 at 3:21 AM

    Comment #2

    I completely agree. I see no way out without relegation. I don’t see us bouncing back up either.

  • expatmag

    Dec 5, 2015 at 3:39 AM

    Comment #3


    Absolutely. The death of NUFC.

    Should make Fat Sam smile as he steers the makems through another relegation fight and Pardew smile as his new cohorts at the Palace get him a top 10 finish.

  • brklyngeordie

    Dec 5, 2015 at 4:08 AM

    Comment #4

    Going forward when its obvious we will be relegated really hope we give the youth a chance lets see what they got

  • Reyantoon

    Dec 5, 2015 at 5:06 AM

    Comment #5

    Hope that news is true,that he has got 2 games to save his a**.We need to see more of that kind of decisive action from Lee.Back the new mgr with atleast 3 new players in January to get out of this mess.Then hope for the best!!

  • nut meg

    Dec 5, 2015 at 5:24 AM

    Comment #6

    We need more than 3 new players AND they must be to strengthen the RIGHT positions. If not it’s goodbye PL and hello championship !

  • Reyantoon

    Dec 5, 2015 at 5:45 AM

    Comment #7

    nut meg – what do u mean the right positions?

  • nut meg

    Dec 5, 2015 at 6:00 AM

    Comment #8

    CB,DM,LB,RW……. all with pace…MINIMUM!

  • expatmag

    Dec 5, 2015 at 6:19 AM

    Comment #9

    My solution

    Ginola…….Asst Man./Skills coach
    McDermott/Gascoigne….Entertainment Officers
    Shearer…. Striker coach
    Rob Lee……Show some balls in midfield coach
    Gary Speed……Divine intervention coach

  • Reyantoon

    Dec 5, 2015 at 6:34 AM

    Comment #10

    nut meg – first you need to ask yourself a proper qn.Are the right players available? Are they on the right age? Do they die to come to this fc?
    It’s not something like you go and shop in a sm.
    Second, defending doesn’t get you goals.You talking about defenders.While we need someone who can score goals or setup goals.You need to score goals to win games.
    Third,u got to ship out some to get someone in.
    So the only realistic assessment of your wish is signing the right wing!!

  • Reyantoon

    Dec 5, 2015 at 6:54 AM

    Comment #11

    And we got Andre Mariner in charge,the other clown,who sent off Mitrovic and the other two of our players in the last couple of games against Liverpool. Why always Mariner when we play Liverpool? Why bother though, we will get spanked anyway..

  • Ron Knee

    Dec 5, 2015 at 6:55 AM

    Comment #12

    Morning jesper

    If it’s true that Charmless is considering sacking McClaren, what happens if the team start playing better, while still getting no points from Liverpool and Spurs? Will Charnley give him more time?

    Of course, if there’s no improvement McClaren will probably resign anyway.

  • expatmag

    Dec 5, 2015 at 7:12 AM

    Comment #13

    Who gives a fat rats clacker anyway?

  • nut meg

    Dec 5, 2015 at 7:16 AM

    Comment #14

    You don’t deserve a response to that reply @ 11

  • Ron Knee

    Dec 5, 2015 at 7:17 AM

    Comment #15


    If you mean that Ashley is doing his best to destroy our club, I agree.

  • Ron Knee

    Dec 5, 2015 at 7:23 AM

    Comment #16

    nut meg

    It looked like Monk was about to be fired then Swansea turned in an excellent performance against Liverpool. I wouldn’t be surprised if Newcastle showed some improvement tomorrow. If that happened, would McClaren get more time?

  • Reyantoon

    Dec 5, 2015 at 7:38 AM

    Comment #17

    nut meg – you mean the spanking part @11?
    I predicted a loss based on Liverpool’s good form and our bad form.Second, I have no confidence on that referee.He usually favor decisions against us & make baiased decisions.
    Hope I’m wrong though and get surprised by hammering them 3-0.

  • hibbitt

    Dec 5, 2015 at 7:39 AM

    Comment #18

    ron don’t hold your breath liverpool have hit a rich vain of form and will be looking forward to playing us………i can for see us getting a good klopping…….not looking forward to the game at all dread to think which nufc team turns up

  • nut meg

    Dec 5, 2015 at 7:42 AM

    Comment #19

    I think we’re a very different kettle of fish to Swansea.They seem to be proactive when it comes to managers where as we drag our feet for that long we can’t even call it reactive.So I would guess that if things don’t improve ,the Swans will have someone to step straight in. In our case I think SM will probably get more time from the club but,the outside pressure from fans/media could well be too much for him so there’s a real chance he’d walk.

  • nut meg

    Dec 5, 2015 at 7:45 AM

    Comment #20

    It should have been youe silly post @10

  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Dec 5, 2015 at 7:52 AM

    Comment #21

    Morning Ron…I don’t think Charnley has it in him to sack McClaren. Wouldn’t someone else on the need sacking as well seeing as McClaren doesn’t have final say?

  • Reyantoon

    Dec 5, 2015 at 7:55 AM

    Comment #22

    I take it as you got no response & I win.Perhaps you should keep defending the useless Black &
    stick to your one line @10 @11…Post without zero explanation!!

  • lochinvar

    Dec 5, 2015 at 7:59 AM

    Comment #23

    Denis Bergkamp linked with Managers job at Reading.
    Is that the Dutch connection rumoured earlier or is that Seedorf ?
    At least they could communicate better with half the team and Schoemaker.

    Mariner as Ref – ha ha , clearly the FA are in on the scam as well.

  • Reyantoon

    Dec 5, 2015 at 8:08 AM

    Comment #24

    Effect of debating with people who have no footy knowledge :p , Good God !
    I’m out..

  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Dec 5, 2015 at 8:23 AM

    Comment #25

    *on the board

  • Ron Knee

    Dec 5, 2015 at 8:27 AM

    Comment #26

    hibbit/nut meg/jesper

    I’m not suggesting that we’ll win – far from it! But suppose the team show some fighting spirit like they did against Manure. That might buy McClaren time – if he wants it – and confuse Ashley/Charmless even more about what to do.

  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Dec 5, 2015 at 8:31 AM

    Comment #27

    Ron…honestly I don’t think Charnley has contemplated sacking McClaren, because basically he would have to go to!

    …I get your point though 🙂

  • beermonkey

    Dec 5, 2015 at 8:34 AM

    Comment #28


    neither the board or McLaren will be sacked
    given the fact they gave pardew more than enough rope to hang himself yet never gave the hangman the nod to pull the lever
    I think both charnley and his master know they don’t do enough and are quite happy for McLaren to take the flack and for that McLaren knows he wont be sacked

  • Ron Knee

    Dec 5, 2015 at 8:36 AM

    Comment #29


    I agree. It’s up to Ashley. If he decides enough is enough then it’s farewell to McClaren. If he had any intelligence he’d get rid of the failed Charmless at the same time. But will he? Who else does he turn to for advice?

  • nut meg

    Dec 5, 2015 at 8:42 AM

    Comment #30

    You want to buy forwards right? We need defenders to stop the flood of goals we are conceding game after game. 30 goals conceded in 14 games.Teams are built from the back.I would shore the back line up & reinforce the mid field, with a winger to move us up the pitch quicker with a better delivery into the box.As things stand atm, buying forwards only, as you would prefer will only guarantee relegation. Is that what you want? A solid reliable defence spreads confidence throughout the team I could go on but I’m sure you can get the gist of what I’m saying. By the way …football is a market place for buying and selling footballers ! The agents/managers/head coaches etc are the people to find out which ones are available and their interest,if any to join another club and if they are suitable for our needs.It makes no difference whether you buy defenders or forwards you would still need ti shift players out first.

  • Toon66

    Dec 5, 2015 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #31

    At Tottenham this week Levy announced that it was up to the MANAGER if he wanted to keep Townsend or not. How refreshing. A manager who has a say of which players are available to him. Keegan came back for a short while but left because he didn’t have a say in transfers to and from the club (the Milner thing was the last straw). If this doesn’t change then we can’t go forward. In a nutshell the non footballing people are making football desicions. Look where Spurs are now.


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