Two Clubs Going In Opposite Directions – Liverpool and Newcastle

Liverpool are one of the iconic football clubs of England and Europe, having won the Champions League (European Cup) five times in their history and having won the English League a total of 18 times, the FA Cup 7 times and the League Cup 8 times.

Liverpool are on the rise again and only narrowly failed to win the Premier League for the first time a couple of years ago.

Under new manager Jurgen Klopp they have come alive since he joined them in October and are playing some great attacking football and have risen to 6th top of the Premier League.

jurgen klopp

Jurgen Klopp new Liverpool manager – happy

Newcastle were once an iconic club who have won the English League 4 times and the FA Cup 6 times – three of those times between 1951 and 1955.

Newcastle are on the decline and since new manager Steve McClaren was appointed in the summer we have made our worst start to a league season ever – and we are currently second bottom with 10 points from 14 games.

Both clubs were founded in 1892.

Last time out Liverpool beat Southampton away 6-1 and Newcastle were taken apart 5-1 at Crystal Palace by former manager Alan Pardew’s new club – who couldn’t leave Tyneside quickly enough last December.

So we have two clubs  very much going in different directions.

Jurgen Klopp has brought the Liverpool players back to life in a short two months and they seem to be playing out of their skins for their new German manager.

On the other hand, there are no real signs that Newcastle are doing any better under Steve McClaren than we did under the woeful John Carver last season, when we only just avoided relegation on the final day of the season.

The players have been accused of not even trying and (certainly) not caring in many matches this season – we have lost eight of our first 14 league games – and when the going gets tough – a number of our players simply disappear.

And this is turning out to be the worst year in Newcastle’s long 123 year history with just 6 wins out of a total of 36 games and a massive 22 defeats.

So it’s no surprise that Liverpool are heavy favorites tomorrow to rather easily win this game and maybe even take us apart – based on current form.

steve mcclaren - cheslea had just equalized

Steve McClaren – new Newcastle manager – sad

Their American  owners Fenway Sports Group want to make Liverpool great again, which they quickly did when they bought the Boston Red Sox back in 2002.

After winning nothing for 86 years, the Red Sox have won the World Series three times since they were bought by FSG 13 years ago.

And when they brought in a  new Liverpool manager in October it was a guy who had proved with Borussia Dortmund that he could build a top side in Europe and build success – in short he has a track record of success.

When Newcastle brought in a new manager in the summer it was somebody who would abide by the  restrictions placed on him by owner Mike Ashley –  that seemed to be the biggest requirement for any applicant for the job.

He would have little or no say in which players come in. and Steve McClaren had no say in who came in during the summer transfer window.

Steve has a mediocre record at best in football management and was fired by Championship club Derby County just two weeks before Lee Charnley made his move for him.

So you couldn’t get two clubs who have become so different – Liverpool continue to be an ambitious club who quickly want to get back to their glory days – Newcastle want to survive in the Premier League and are even finding that (very) difficult.

Liverpool’s American owners want to take Liverpool back to being a top club in Europe and they are doing what’s necessary to accomplish that.

Newcastle owner Mike Ashley wants Newcastle to be a top ten club in England which we’ve achieved only twice in the eight years he’s owned the club – both with Alan Pardew as manager.

That’s only so that we continue to get the big money from the Premier League and their huge TV rights money.

The two clubs have shown where you want to go and what you want to become as a football club based on vision, strategy and ambition – has a massive impact on where you will end up.

At the moment, Newcastle are one of the favorites for relegation this season

And it reminds us of the quote from the former great Liverpool manager Bill Shankly – who said this on ambition:

“Aim for the sky and you’ll reach the ceiling. Aim for the ceiling and you’ll stay on the floor.”

Newcastle could take a clue from the way Liverpool are run and what their visison and ambitions are – but they won’t.

Comments welcome.

10 comments so far

  • Ron Knee

    Dec 5, 2015 at 8:37 AM

    Comment #1



    I agree. It’s up to Ashley. If he decides enough is enough then it’s farewell to McClaren. If he had any intelligence he’d get rid of the failed Charmless at the same time. But will he? Who else does he turn to for advice?

  • nut meg

    Dec 5, 2015 at 8:44 AM

    Comment #2

    You want to buy forwards right? We need defenders to stop the flood of goals we are conceding game after game. 30 goals conceded in 14 games.Teams are built from the back.I would shore the back line up & reinforce the mid field, with a winger to move us up the pitch quicker with a better delivery into the box.As things stand atm, buying forwards only, as you would prefer will only guarantee relegation. Is that what you want? A solid reliable defence spreads confidence throughout the team I could go on but I’m sure you can get the gist of what I’m saying. By the way …football is a market place for buying and selling footballers ! The agents/managers/head coaches etc are the people to find out which ones are available and their interest,if any to join another club and if they are suitable for our needs.It makes no difference whether you buy defenders or forwards you would still need ti shift players out first.

  • Lindisfarne

    Dec 5, 2015 at 8:45 AM

    Comment #3

    The ‘two game to save his job’ talk was started by the Daily Mail and was only a suggestion that it COULD be a possibility. Therefore the discusion has no validity as LC would also have to go. What would definitely improve the situation would be if they annouced that they have already recruited certain players ready to start on the 1st of January. Unfortunately my expectations of ‘the board’ are too high for this to be the case.

  • runheed

    Dec 5, 2015 at 8:57 AM

    Comment #4

    “Aim for the sky and you’ll reach the ceiling. Aim for the ceiling and you’ll stay on the floor.”
    Well…. I think NUFC is aiming for the skirting board.

  • Tsunki

    Dec 5, 2015 at 9:02 AM

    Comment #5

    it’s boro going past us as we go downward that’s more the issue. We have the added glee of having to wait an extra day before our ordeal. And then it will be live. With a confirmed nufc hater in charge ( no I mean Marriner, not Ashley). All good.

  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Dec 5, 2015 at 9:16 AM

    Comment #6

    Morning Beermonkey…long time no see mate. Where have GT stored you lately?

    I agree I don’t see McClaren being sacked anytime soon 😉

    Ron…they say Ashley is intelligent, but I just don’t see it.

  • Ron Knee

    Dec 5, 2015 at 9:18 AM

    Comment #7


    I did say ‘if”!

  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Dec 5, 2015 at 9:25 AM

    Comment #8

    If the backroom staff are fighting over training methods, manager and staff over tactics. McLaren having faith and experience in Colocinni to lead us out of theis mess
    then WHAT hope do we have.

  • Lindisfarne

    Dec 5, 2015 at 9:37 AM

    Comment #9

    I think the Club did confirm that the ‘lessons learnt’ would require three transfer windows to put right. ‘We will make our own luck’ came from the horses mouth and the decks were cleared for the new coaching team. The lack of progress is due to multitude of reasons and is an indication that no one responsible has the ability to put things right.

    Its not due to the lack of decision making or a clear plan, buy is down to poor leadership and an unqualified reliance on responsibilty being taken from the ground upwards. The players are voting with their feet or injuries, goals conceeded and goals scored are the simple facts that matter, but no one at the club has an answer.

  • Sav

    Dec 5, 2015 at 10:12 AM

    Comment #10

    Or in our case, ‘Aim for the floor and you’ll shoot yourself in the foot.’


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