Why Was Charnley McClaren Meeting Normal This Week?


Two weeks ago we were returning from the two week International break and we had just luckily won at Bournemouth in the last game and taken 7 points from 4 games so things were starting to look up.

But against Leicester City at home. after we went behind 1-0 just before half time. the second half was a disgrace and too many players in the black and white shirts gave up the ghost – as they have done too many times this season.

Steve McClaren said he laid into the players on the following Monday and it just wasn’t good enough and promised better things at Crystal Palace last Saturday.

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Steve McClaren – at his press conference

But after going ahead 1-0 after 10 minutes with a goal from Papiss Cisse we were behind a short seven minutes later and it became another disgraceful performance from the team – and Palace won the game 5-1 and it could have been a lot worse.

We heard from Steve McClaren after the game but then nothing until his Thursday press conference.

During the press conference the obvious theme for this week was the following.

Our players are short of confidence and all we need is another win to get the confidence back and all will be well – and it’s just a short two weeks ago  we were celebrating the win at Bournemouth when everything looked great – things can change very quickly with a win when the confidence of players comes flooding back.

Steve McClaren must have said the word confidence 934 times in his 10-minute press conference – or so it seemed.

McClaren said this when asked if he had talked to the owner about the plight of the team over the last few weeks:

No, no – as we say it was our normal routine, we meet with the players like we do after every game whether we win, lose or draw and we have chats with Charnley every week – it’s been a normal week we know what we have to do – we have to do it on the field.”

There didn’t seem to be any urgency in the way McClaren responded to questions and there was more urgency from the journalists than from Steve.

If you didn’t know where we were in the league you may have thought we were around 6th place in the league given Steve’s odd demeanor.

Yes – we know there has to be no panic – but urgency is not panic  – especially after two of the worst performances from Newcastle for a long time.

And how on earth could it be a normal meeting when we are second bottom, below Sunderland in the league – have a goal difference of -16 the worst in the league and conceded 30 goals – also the worst in the Premier League.

It’s almost as if  Steve McClaren and Lee Charnley are acting too cool.

We don’t want to see any panic – but we do want to see urgency that we can get out of this bad situation.

McClaren has to demand a lot more from the players and he’s been nowhere near to getting the best out of them so far this season.

Another defeat tomorrow against Liverpool and we’ll be in even more trouble.

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75 comments so far

  • Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    Dec 5, 2015 at 4:23 PM

    Comment #1

    The real Arsenal have just turned up and they are battering the Mackems !! About time !! Although Villa still winning is not good for us !!

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  • John Tudor

    Dec 5, 2015 at 4:23 PM

    Comment #2

    how many has klopp had and how is he performing
    enough of the excuses mucca shape up or ship out

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  • toonking

    Dec 5, 2015 at 4:26 PM

    Comment #3

    nice hatrickk by mahrez

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  • Ketsbaia9

    Dec 5, 2015 at 4:27 PM

    Comment #4

    We were linked with Ngolo Kante. Probably should’ve signed him.

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  • John Tudor

    Dec 5, 2015 at 4:28 PM

    Comment #5

    we are linked with ker plunk too

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  • Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    Dec 5, 2015 at 4:30 PM

    Comment #6

    The worry is Villa have been putting in the work rate in the last few games and if they get the win they will be dying to get in about us as they will fancy a win !

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  • archaeomag

    Dec 5, 2015 at 4:30 PM

    Comment #7

    villa 1 down

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  • John Tudor

    Dec 5, 2015 at 4:31 PM

    Comment #8

    no a draw

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  • Ron Knee

    Dec 5, 2015 at 4:32 PM

    Comment #9

    Romeu scores for Southampton.

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  • archaeomag

    Dec 5, 2015 at 4:35 PM

    Comment #10

    Villa 1 1
    [wishful thinking]

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  • John Tudor

    Dec 5, 2015 at 4:35 PM

    Comment #11

    just waiting to hear muccas drivels on sunday

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  • jane

    Dec 5, 2015 at 4:37 PM

    Comment #12

    Norwich and Swansea losing is good

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  • archaeomag

    Dec 5, 2015 at 4:38 PM

    Comment #13

    @jane
    sad but true

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  • Ron Knee

    Dec 5, 2015 at 4:38 PM

    Comment #14

    On this crap stream I have it’s hard to make out the SAFC players playing in green. Good camouflage.

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  • Oleg G

    Dec 5, 2015 at 4:38 PM

    Comment #15

    We are really bad this season but Villa, wow.

    If they will finish today with 6 points, that is 13% of points from the possible 45.

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  • jane

    Dec 5, 2015 at 4:39 PM

    Comment #16

    you never know we might win tomorrow 🙂

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  • jane

    Dec 5, 2015 at 4:40 PM

    Comment #17

    I think Villa are certs for relegation

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  • John Tudor

    Dec 5, 2015 at 4:44 PM

    Comment #18

    unless there is a change soon all we will get is about 22

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  • John Tudor

    Dec 5, 2015 at 4:47 PM

    Comment #19

    is that nib 😉

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  • toonking

    Dec 5, 2015 at 4:49 PM

    Comment #20

    looks as though Leicester are going top of the table, how much longer would we give them before they become top4 or title contenders this year?

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  • Oleg G

    Dec 5, 2015 at 4:51 PM

    Comment #21

    3-1

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  • Oleg G

    Dec 5, 2015 at 4:52 PM

    Comment #22

    toonking

    If they stay up in the top 4 until 26 games. So somewhere in February.

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  • lukes26

    Dec 5, 2015 at 4:53 PM

    Comment #23

    Well, Sunderland lost…however, they look much more a threat under allerdyce it must be said

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  • toonking

    Dec 5, 2015 at 4:54 PM

    Comment #24

    scums 3-1 down
    norwich 2-0 down
    and
    villa 1-1

    can we take advantage of these results or will the bottom remain the same?

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  • Ron Knee

    Dec 5, 2015 at 4:55 PM

    Comment #25

    3-1
    That’s my crumb of comfort for tomorrow.

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  • Oleg G

    Dec 5, 2015 at 4:57 PM

    Comment #26

    Villa 1-1.

    I don’t see how any other team, other than the last 5 now can be considered for relegation.

    We, and the other 4 are so sh**.
    Sunderland, Villa, Us, Norwich, B’mouth.

    Swansea and Chelsea will get out of this.

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  • toonking

    Dec 5, 2015 at 5:00 PM

    Comment #27

    oleg

    If they are still top 4 and hang onto the likes of vardy and mahrez i’ll start putting belief into a top 4 finish, they certainly a team I feel like dedicating full support to at this minute.

    go leceister

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  • lukes26

    Dec 5, 2015 at 5:03 PM

    Comment #28

    would you do a straight swap of Danny Simpson for Janmaat..

    first class defender vs elite attacking rb

    ..i lean no..but i think we’d start him over janmaat currently since our defense is so bad

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  • Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    Dec 5, 2015 at 5:04 PM

    Comment #29

    @Oleg

    Yeah I feel that we could all start to get cut adrift apart from Sunderland seem to get jammy results

    Would like to see us at least try and have men behind the ball against Liverpool and defend !! If we try attacking them with no one tracking back it could be embarrassing !!

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  • Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    Dec 5, 2015 at 5:05 PM

    Comment #30

    @Lukes26

    Would take Danny Simpson and make him defend and put Janmaat on the wing where he would do quite well

    In fact we could do this just now with Mbabu as the full back

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  • toonking

    Dec 5, 2015 at 5:06 PM

    Comment #31

    villa themselves are a team i’m assured will be down.

    the other two are for anyone of scums, norwich, bournmouth and us.

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  • toonking

    Dec 5, 2015 at 5:10 PM

    Comment #32

    luke

    as lee himself says really, danny simpson over jamaat anyday. At the end of the day a RB’s main job is defending any attacking provided is a bonus, if he’s magnificent attacking and awful defending as jamaat is then he might as well be moved to winger

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  • lukes26

    Dec 5, 2015 at 5:12 PM

    Comment #33

    Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    agreed. janmaat would make a decent winger…better than sissoko for sure.

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  • Malta Mag

    Dec 5, 2015 at 5:26 PM

    Comment #34

    We may be totally Sh ite but I for one will be glued to the TV here on “the rock” watching the lads in the hope that somehow, against all the odds we pull off a result. I have also booked my ticket v Everton on Boxing Day and will be back again in March v Sunderland whilst still watching all the games live on Tv because lads and lasses that’s what true supporters do through thick and thin. Anything less for me is unacceptable. Geordie till I die!!!!!

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  • Oleg G

    Dec 5, 2015 at 5:34 PM

    Comment #35

    My comfort this season is watching Leicester Cit fighting the big clubs. It is nice to see.

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  • West Lancs Geordie

    Dec 5, 2015 at 5:48 PM

    Comment #36

    Question ? Who will come to NUFC if McLaren is sacked.
    Question 2? When will we see through the sicknotes e.g. Saylor Taking wages after wages & never playing.
    Question 3? When will the club understand we need to shore up the back by bringing in quality CBs & Full Backs. before shelling out on wingers who couldn’t get in another Prem League Side.
    Tomorrow players must stand up & be counted & work together to avoid a yet another leathering

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  • JamesToon

    Dec 5, 2015 at 5:49 PM

    Comment #37

    Bournemouth playing well against chelsea

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  • lesh

    Dec 5, 2015 at 5:51 PM

    Comment #38

    Given the situation the Club’s in, if having a ‘chat’ with McClaren’s the best Charnley can come up with, then it suggests that Charnley hasn’t got the guts to have a serious discussion with the HC he appointed.

    A decent CEO would have had a serious discussion long before now – the writing was definitely on the wall after the Leicester game – and a formal meeting should have been held with Carr covering where we are now, why and what needs to be done to rectify the situation both now and in the longer term. A follow-up review should have been convened after the debacle at Palace.

    But were there any meetings? Apparently not, just a ‘chat’ with McClaren.

    Clearly, Charnley isn’t up to the CEO role and Ashley really ought to recruit a football savvy CEO and put Charnley back into his former role – thus bringing in a strong Chief Exec and retaining Charnley to do what he’s good at. One would also expect Carr’s obvious power to be reduced and if (probably) necessary, recruiting a good manager/ HC to boot.

    I can’t imagine Ashley sitting back at SD and leaving its control to incompetents like Charnley!

    What a shambles but no the upside, if we just happen to hammer Liverpool by at least 7-0, we might just get out of the mire.

    Hey ho, we can only dream on.

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  • Mag52

    Dec 5, 2015 at 5:51 PM

    Comment #39

    The over expectations of so many of the fans up here is the reason why so many of the fans up here will live in a state of continual disappointment at the fortunes of NUFC.
    This will be multiplied ten fold so long as fat Ash is calling the tune.

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