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No Interest In Matip – Magpies Not Interested In New Center-Back

3:39 pm, Tuesday, December 22nd, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 81 Comments

With Steve McClaren still apparently wanting to keep faith in Fabricio Coloccini in the Newcastle defense as the captain,  it wouldn’t surprise us too much if Newcastle again don’t bother to bring in a player who could replace the Argentine International in the  team for the rest of the season.

And with the news in the Chronicle today that their information is Newcastle are not interested in bringing Schalke’s Joel Matip to the club  next month – that is some evidence that would support that theory.

Our question would be why are we not interested in Matip since he becomes a free agent at the end of June and could be brought in for a reasonable fee next month or as a free agent in the summer.

Maybe Newcastle are simply admitting that with Liverpool said to be after him – we now have no chance.

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Joel Matip – no interest from Newcastle

The other thing is that Jamaal Lascelles is back in training this week  and Steve Taylor is two weeks way from returning to training after he has been out since the end of August with a hamstring injury.

And if Mike Williamson is kept on Tyneside for the rest of the season – we would at least have a number of decent center-backs available.

Newcastle may do what we often seem to do in January – like we did last January – we try to just  get by though the rest of the season and minimize the number of players coming into the club next month to strengthen the squad.

That could be a dangerous move next month given where we are in the Premier League 2 points out of the relegation zone.

We do expect money to be spent next month – but we wouldn’t put anything past Newcastle these days – given the incompetent way the club has been run over the last few years.

But if the club doesn’t bring in a center-back next month it hardly a shows the new ambition that we thought Mike Ashley had talked about last May – before the last game of the season when we could well have been relegated.

That was mainly because of the poor coaching of John Carver who should never have been left in the job after losing eight Premier League games on the trot at the end of last season.

We’d like to see an improvement in the way the club is being run, but we just don’t think those in leadership positions at Newcastle – like Lee Charnley as one example – have the skills, experience or football knowledge to make Newcastle into a good side again.

Comments welcome.

Tags: Coaching · Newcastle News · Recruitment · Transfer News and Rumours · Transfer Target

81 responses so far ↓

  • 1 John Tudor // Dec 22, 2015 at 3:41 PM

    a decent number but pss poor quality
    ashley be gone

  • 2 will die for the toon army // Dec 22, 2015 at 3:44 PM

    think i wld play De Jong one more time at the start. A fit again de Jong wld b better than a growing Perez. Perez can continue his super sub work.
    Sissoko……De Jong…….Wijnaldum

    Bring on Perez and Thauvin

  • 3 will die for the toon army // Dec 22, 2015 at 3:46 PM

    I have been impressed with our defence of late and Anita has been amazing looked like a hungry Makelele.

    I still blame e rain for the draw.

  • 4 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Dec 22, 2015 at 3:47 PM

    I think we will buy some players to guarantee premiership safety!! Ashley will be aware of how badly we have fallen apart in the last couple of seasons and I hope the lesson that we cant just sell players with no replacements and hope to get by !!

    I will say though if we could have finished our dinner and got the wins against Stoke and Villa that we deserved then we would be sitting about 11th in the table , it would be interesting to see what kind of transfer action we would have taken then !!

  • 5 Jail for Ashley // Dec 22, 2015 at 3:48 PM

    Very dangerous move as I didn’t realise that the season we went down we were two points better off than now and the season we avoided it with one game to spare we were actually three points better off :O
    The bean counters might want to learn from history !

  • 6 Lilongwe Geordie // Dec 22, 2015 at 3:49 PM

    He wouldn’t benefit us at centre back. He is prone to Brambleesque lapses, he needs a talker and an organiser next to him. Much like Bramble performed far better when Woodgate was in control next to him. Howedes does that, we have nobody who does so we would not be significantly strengthened.

    Not to mention two African centre halves with the next AFCON just a year away…..

    Anyway, I’ve read he isn’t really interested in a move here so no point wasting time. Get a proper leader and organiser in there instead.

  • 7 Jib // Dec 22, 2015 at 3:50 PM

    It’s a bit stupid to whinge about what may happen in the window 40 days before it closes and 9 days before it opens.
    Ashley please stay

  • 8 will die for the toon army // Dec 22, 2015 at 3:52 PM

    I think the season we went down we lacked leadership. I dont see it with this group.
    Colo however poor loves this club. He wont let relegation happen.

    Mcca has a point to prove and we have a Geordie in Black.

    I insist De Jong shld start he really organises the players on top. Perez shld come as a super sub

  • 9 Jail for Ashley // Dec 22, 2015 at 3:57 PM

    Nobody is whinging about the transfer window, maybe fearful from so many barren windows but we have to hope common sense and logic prevail……..
    Yey, Ashley stay to oversee another relegation battle, soooo much more exciting than having tenth wrapped up by Christmas and being able to pack the season in !

  • 10 Jail for Ashley // Dec 22, 2015 at 3:58 PM

    Do you believe that dinosaurs existed ? Just an honest simple question !

  • 11 Lilongwe Geordie // Dec 22, 2015 at 3:59 PM

    What would be your hopes and/or expectations for this window? What would class as a successful window, and what would not be good enough?

  • 12 will die for the toon army // Dec 22, 2015 at 4:02 PM



  • 13 jane // Dec 22, 2015 at 4:09 PM

    Do you believe in Santa? Just an honest simple question !

  • 14 Lilongwe Geordie // Dec 22, 2015 at 4:10 PM

    Will Die,
    As unpopular as this may be, the reason we went down last time was a combination of the issues between Keegan and the club, and Kinnear being admitted to hospital and having to stand down. The day Kinnear was admitted to hospital, Newcastle were 13th in the league.

    Shearer loved the club, but was also a key part in the relegation because he wasn’t up to it. So I really don’t see how Colo’s love for the club will be good enough to keep us up even though he clearly is regressing and lacks discernible leadership skills on the pitch.

    As it is, I don’t think we will go down anyway, but not because;
    a) Colo loves the club
    b)Macca has a point to prove
    c) Black is a geordie

  • 15 lesh // Dec 22, 2015 at 4:11 PM

    Oh ye of little faith.

    There’s no need to worry about getting a new CB as Saylor’s due back in a couple of weeks – only to get yet another injury in February!

    Deja vue again again again!

  • 16 eddyinpoole // Dec 22, 2015 at 4:11 PM

    there is not a premier league quality centre back at the club.the number of goals scored against us in the past four years proves we need an overhaul of the whole defence.until this is sorted we will struggle year after year.onwards and upwards……

  • 17 croftus5678 // Dec 22, 2015 at 4:11 PM

    i’m all for colo playing well and i honestly hope it continues !

    it doesnt change the fact we still desp need a cb though imo as saylor is only worth about 5 games a season before he gets injured and lescalles not exactly a top player atm and even the avg dummett who is prob our best for 3rd choice imo being preffered at lb !!!!

    willems for lb
    matip for cb
    shelvey for cm
    redmond/ince for lw
    austin for cf

    happy days imo if it happened.

    lots need to go though.

  • 18 Jib // Dec 22, 2015 at 4:13 PM

    I’m more sanguine than the majority.
    I don’t see us as having absolutely critical gaps anywhere . Sure there are some positions that leave something to be desired but as I say nothing critical.
    A few weeks ago I would have said an authorative goalie to shake the defense up a bit , but Elliott has pleasantly surprised me.
    A really classy playmaker would be nice but we ain’t going to get one in Winter.I think SM is going to give SdJ another 6 months then we may push the boat out in Summer.
    Survival is the name of the game for the rest of the season and we have a squad to achieve that.

  • 19 lesh // Dec 22, 2015 at 4:14 PM

    Willo’ll not be around post-window if Charnley gets a sniff of a couple of mill in January – he’ll be another Santon!

    This so-called Board are hopeless, completely lacking foresight!

  • 20 lesh // Dec 22, 2015 at 4:15 PM


    Onwards and downwards surely?

  • 21 Lilongwe Geordie // Dec 22, 2015 at 4:19 PM

    Top 10 was the name of the game last season, and we have let no key players go and spent £50million. Why do you think survival is the aim now if it wasn’t then?

    We don’t create sufficient chances – people might point to the Villa game but we were playing the leagues worst team. Without chances being created we will continue to struggle for goals and it will mean our centre forwards continue to score very few.

    Personally, I would be very happy with three in, expect 1 but think the minimum they need is 2. Not because I think we will go down, but because the longer we continue to be near the bottom the less the chance of persuading a higher level of player to join in the summer. We won’t be able to attract a top playmaker in the summer if we just scrape survival once again.

    From your response I presume that no major sales in Jan would see you relatively happy with the window?

  • 22 eddyinpoole // Dec 22, 2015 at 4:28 PM

    lesh…….i live in hope in that the powers that be see what all fans know.our defence has been embarassing for years,and this will be sorted in the january transfer window.centre half,left back and quality midfielder on the shopping holding the fort down here so onwards and upwards…….

  • 23 Lilongwe Geordie // Dec 22, 2015 at 4:33 PM

    I’m not convinced Willems would be all that great a signing for us. The Dutch league is hardly a great barometer for quality defenders, and despite playing for a top side. Whenever I have seen him he has looked suspect defensively, so I thought I’d do a quick count on clean sheets and goals conceded…

    Willems has only played in 23 clean sheets in the Eredivisie in 104 appearances. His side have also conceded 121 in 104 games he has featured in. Not saying it is his fault, but he isn’t the top defender that everyone is so desperate to sign.

    A very good offensive full back, but is that really what we need? Surely we need someone who can defend first and foremost who can also get forward. Not someone who can create chances plus track back? We have that in Janmaat and it is costing us goals at this level.

    I’d be far more interested in signing Robertson from Hull who looks much better defensively

  • 24 Lilongwe Geordie // Dec 22, 2015 at 4:35 PM

    Sentence construction went a bit off there, that’s what you get for changing part of your post then not reading it back….

  • 25 Jail for Ashley // Dec 22, 2015 at 4:42 PM

    I used to !
    Simple question !

  • 26 Jib // Dec 22, 2015 at 4:53 PM

    It’s all very well saying Top 10 was the name of the game last season etc.

    What do you think Chelsea’s targets were in August ?

    I was quite upbeat about us at the start of the season , nobody wants things to go to shit but it happens.

    I prefer the clubs approach to building a squad now , than previously , under other regimes.

    Folk on here talk as if Carr is the only one that ever uncovered duck eggs.

    I am sure you could probably name more flops than me.

    Fat Freddie’s policy of buying big name players that we couldn’t afford was really annoying.

    Did you see the interview with Kaspar Schmeichel ? He was saying Ranieri is like a throwback , he scoffs at the stats , doesn’t beieve in possesion footy , and is only interested in how fast his players can run.

  • 27 nufc 11 // Dec 22, 2015 at 4:56 PM

    Jon Joe shelvy should be number one target missing link in the team you ask me. Young right back Cyrus Christie at Derby county and Matt Phillips at qpr would be a very good window.

  • 28 Tsunki // Dec 22, 2015 at 5:06 PM

    I like a man who scoffs at stats. My type of guy.

  • 29 Tsunki // Dec 22, 2015 at 5:07 PM

    I reckon 9 out of 10 statisticians can’t prove anything with stats. FACT!

  • 30 Lilongwe Geordie // Dec 22, 2015 at 5:08 PM

    I imagine Chelsea will have been aiming at title contenders. That looks impossible now, so they have acted and replaced their manager. Not sure that really helps your argument against the idea of targets.

    Are we building a squad? When did it start? This summer? How long has the owner been here? I think it is far too early to say that they are building a squad. It is a very easy line to trot out, but there is little evidence that they are putting it into practice so far. If he was building a squad, then we would likely bring in players that improve the squad most windows. We haven’t done, and because we haven’t done we have left ourselves in a position which means we will struggle to attract players of the quality that we would want – based on their talk of top 8 and a cup after 3 windows.

    Not sure there is any relevance to bringing up past owners, Freddie was no angel and took his pound of flesh out of the club more than once. I’m not really interested in that though.

    As for Carr, every scout gets it wrong now and then. Some rarely get it right. By my count Carr is still probably up on most Chief Scouts in the Premier league. I do object to him being on the board though, frankly that is a ludicrous role to put a chief scout in.

    On Ranieri, I don’t believe in possession football, but I don’t believe in direct long ball football either – “it isn’t about the long ball or the short ball, it is about the right ball” Paisley. I highly doubt all he is interested in is how fast a player can run though, I’d imagine that is oversimplifying things.

  • 31 Tsunki // Dec 22, 2015 at 5:13 PM

    Stats show was haven’t been building anything but continuing mediocrity aimed at pushing the SD boat along gently. Otherwise we wouldn’t have spent season after season pogoing on the relegation area. We would have seen some signs of improvement. Definite not fanciful and imagined.

  • 32 Lilongwe Geordie // Dec 22, 2015 at 5:13 PM

    As for stats, they are a useful tool provided they aren’t taken in isolation. It isn’t for no reason that just about every top sports organisation globally use them extensively alongside other methods of development and tracking areas of improvement.

  • 33 Jail for Ashley // Dec 22, 2015 at 5:44 PM

    Stats are far to easily manipulated, take for example the ones used to show that having a good cup run could get you relegated !

  • 34 TacoFlavoredKisses ForMyBen-arfa // Dec 22, 2015 at 5:48 PM

    No need for Matip. If you think about it the wilo recall was like a new signing. I know hes out now, but when he comes back from the hammy it will be like another new signing. Im pretty sure two new CB’s is enough to move us up the table.

  • 35 Tsunki // Dec 22, 2015 at 5:50 PM

    Lilo – however it could be true that using extensive statistics might be a modern phenomenon that may just peter out in years to come as improbability becomes fashionable again.


  • 36 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Dec 22, 2015 at 5:57 PM

    The worst statistic of the season is we have lost the most amount of points from being in front than any other team in the league !! Would have us near the top 8 if we had managed to close games out !!

  • 37 TacoFlavoredKisses ForMyBen-arfa // Dec 22, 2015 at 5:58 PM

    Lilongwe Geordie

    this was a good article if you havent seen it re watford/ and leicester

  • 38 Tsunki // Dec 22, 2015 at 6:10 PM

    Good article.

  • 39 Lilongwe Geordie // Dec 22, 2015 at 6:16 PM

    Cheers. I think formations all depend on what you have in available to you and the manner in which you play.

    Interesting that Deeney singles out Colo as one of the best he faced.

  • 40 angelswithdirtyfaces // Dec 22, 2015 at 7:06 PM

    Top 10 was the name of the game THIS season etc. etc.,
    Sanguinely accepting survival is the Ashley ‘formula’ for the club

  • 41 Tsunki // Dec 22, 2015 at 7:07 PM

    Well I obviously finished my tea first. That’s what comes of eating a ding dinner. 🙂

  • 42 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Dec 22, 2015 at 7:09 PM

    We can play 442 no bother with Thauvin and Sissoko on the wings Perez and Mitrovic up front and Wijnaldum and Anita in midfield

    Involves everyone putting in the work sometimes Sissoko , Perez and Mitrovic dont put tackles in or chase for the ball which we sometimes get outnumbered in midfield

  • 43 Tsunki // Dec 22, 2015 at 7:18 PM

    Sometimes get outnumbered? That’s diplomatic, lcbp! I can’t remember the last time our midfield haven’t looked like sheep in a thunderstorm. Maybe that’s unfair. Sheep aren’t that timid.

  • 44 JamesToon // Dec 22, 2015 at 7:18 PM

    We should stick with 4-4-2 but just try and get the ball on the deck a bit more, use mitrovic as the outball if we cannot play out the back

  • 45 angelswithdirtyfaces // Dec 22, 2015 at 7:19 PM


    “Jeff makes things (up) that make people laugh”

    third rate entertainers in the family then ?

  • 46 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Dec 22, 2015 at 7:27 PM


    Yeah maybe I was being too diplomatic !!

    Its difficult to pin point what happens but so many of our players go through periods in games where they are a rabbit in the headlights and just let the game pass them by !

    Maybe would be different if we had a Nolan type player in the midfield shouting at players to wake up

  • 47 lesh // Dec 22, 2015 at 7:37 PM


    What’s in the air arond Poole? Something’s giving you an air of optimism that’s been ripped out of Tyneside and most other places.

    Dream on and I really do hope that Santa Charnley’ll be kind to you.


  • 48 Belfast // Dec 22, 2015 at 7:43 PM

    What do sheep look like in a thunderstorm Stinki?

  • 49 Belfast // Dec 22, 2015 at 7:51 PM

    You about tonight Ian ? Need some intelligent conversation.

  • 50 welshgeordie9 // Dec 22, 2015 at 7:55 PM


    If you want intelligent conversation, then I’m your man.

    Ha ha ha

  • 51 welshgeordie9 // Dec 22, 2015 at 7:57 PM

    Do you have the time to listen to me whine, some say I might be a basket case.

    Ha ha ha

    Good old Green Day best band in the world.

  • 52 Belfast // Dec 22, 2015 at 7:59 PM

    Well if there’s nobody else around you’ll have to do Welshie.

    How’s tricks ?

  • 53 dok - the horrid colonial // Dec 22, 2015 at 8:32 PM

    no worries Belfast, im here to save you from the great northern bkog menace lol.. jk welshie

  • 54 dok - the horrid colonial // Dec 22, 2015 at 8:32 PM

    blog that is

  • 55 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Dec 22, 2015 at 8:33 PM

    Belfast…ha ha ha! I was pissing myself laughing there…maybe you are funny after all?

  • 56 Mister Tuff // Dec 22, 2015 at 8:34 PM

    Toss up between the Cwmbran Clot and Norman Bates (Ian Toon – Master Multiple).
    Really not much of a choice.

  • 57 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Dec 22, 2015 at 8:38 PM

    Belfast…I have always wondered are you one of those guys who’s funny looking at?

  • 58 Ian Toon // Dec 22, 2015 at 8:49 PM

    Mr Tuff at this time of the year there’s no place for the founder member of the Grumpy Old Men’s Club.

    Just remember everyone brings joy to this blog. Some when they enter and others when they leave. Enough said Tuff on your broomstick.

    Belfast – At last your presence is with fun and laughter. Love to stay but on the escalator. Have a fun filled Christmas with the family.
    Every god wish for 2016- it’s you round now.

  • 59 Mister Tuff // Dec 22, 2015 at 8:56 PM

    The escalator to nowhere.

  • 60 Tsunki // Dec 22, 2015 at 9:03 PM

    Belfast I’ve no idea about sheep in a thunderstorm I’d try Welshie. Low blow there I admit, sorry welshie

    Sharing a jam jar of mulled wine with the vicar in your polytunnel there Belfast? it’s a heartwarming tableau.

  • 61 angelswithdirtyfaces // Dec 22, 2015 at 9:28 PM

    Bah Humbug Ian any time of year.

    Ashley in a thunderstorm ? Standing under a tree on a golf curse somewhere – sheep are more sensible and hide behind stane dykes

  • 62 Jail for Ashley // Dec 22, 2015 at 9:43 PM

    I crease up every time I read your posts, I remember one time at band camp, oh that was some where else, I remember one time when all you said was it was Tuesday the other day, I laughed so hard I nearly wet myself, you really are a comic genius !

  • 63 welshgeordie9 // Dec 22, 2015 at 9:43 PM

    Mister Tuff

    You keep having a dig at Jib not getting his facts right, here’s one for you Cwmbran is not in Swansea.

  • 64 welshgeordie9 // Dec 22, 2015 at 9:47 PM

    There’s only one comedian on here jail and that’s the good looking guy from Wales, Belfast is an amateur, but he is getting there.

    Ha ha ha

  • 65 Jail for Ashley // Dec 22, 2015 at 9:47 PM

    Blackadder and Lord Percy are reminiscent of the comedy that exists between Ian and Belfast !

  • 66 welshgeordie9 // Dec 22, 2015 at 9:50 PM

    Right never mind that, more important things to worry about and that’s are we getting Charlie Austin and I wonder how Mr P is doing down at selhurst park, perhaps ed can tell us on both of the stories.

  • 67 welshgeordie9 // Dec 22, 2015 at 9:52 PM

    So i take that Belfast is Lord Percy then jail, that’s not very nice, now be civil to each other.

  • 68 Belfast // Dec 22, 2015 at 9:58 PM

    Was that the night at band camp where I felt all faint after one peach snapps and woke up in your tent with no trousers on Jail?

    I don’t want to talk about that night ever again.

  • 69 Sazzer // Dec 22, 2015 at 9:58 PM

    Lilongwe Geordie
    I’m Willems over Robertson not just because he have better stats both offensively and defensively but because he’s the more entertaining player of the two.

    Jonas Hector and Ben Davies are better targets in case Willems haven’t fully recovered from his long-term injury.

  • 70 welshgeordie9 // Dec 22, 2015 at 10:01 PM

    I can see romance on the blog coming very soon.

    Ha ha ha

  • 71 Tsunki // Dec 22, 2015 at 10:07 PM

    Well there’s a vicar here so why not have a wedding? 🙂

  • 72 Tsunki // Dec 22, 2015 at 10:10 PM

    ..dearly beloved, we are gathered here today to witness the joining of two really dodgy characters obviously adversely affected by an early attack on the home made egg nog…

  • 73 Belfast // Dec 22, 2015 at 10:11 PM

    I do solemnly swear That I Belfast….

  • 74 Tsunki // Dec 22, 2015 at 10:13 PM

    Ha Ha ha belfast you do make me chuckle it’s hard to stay mad at you for giving me the boot from the act on the Reverends orders…

  • 75 Belfast // Dec 22, 2015 at 10:20 PM

    Would actually be quite funny if Jail and Ian buried the hatchet.

  • 76 Belfast // Dec 22, 2015 at 10:21 PM

    An afternoon of Jail and Ian talking tactics

  • 77 Belfast // Dec 22, 2015 at 10:25 PM

    Well there’s no going back Skunki. Once you’re out you’re out

  • 78 Ian Toon // Dec 22, 2015 at 10:25 PM

    Tsunki- I’m with you old sport. There’s nothing quite like a pint of eggnog at the end of a hard days graft. In fact I always start the day on an eggnog.
    There’s surely nothing more comforting than eggnog.

  • 79 Belfast // Dec 22, 2015 at 10:28 PM

    Merry Xmas to you as well Ian btw

  • 80 OneAlanShearer // Dec 22, 2015 at 10:34 PM

    An experienced keeper
    A new big fast cb who can bring the ball out and is a real vocal leader.
    A left back who can defend and cross a ball
    Ever banega
    A pacey powerful experienced striker.

    So many gaps in the squad but central midfield first it’s the weakest in the league. Our defence and attack suffer because it’s so weak.
    Centre back then as an injury to Mbemba and we are stuffed.
    A quality left back then who can also play right back.
    Then a quality striker pacey striker to replace cisse.
    Gk even though elliot has improved out of skin because an injury to him leaves us with no experienced keeper which is ridiculous.

  • 81 OneAlanShearer // Dec 22, 2015 at 10:37 PM

    The cb needs to be a tough leader with pace and height.
    The fb cover or left back replacement needs to be better than Dummett and Haidara.

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