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Steve McClaren’s Supportive Comments After The Game

8:52 pm, Saturday, December 26th, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 132 Comments

Steve McClaren has said he thought that once again Rob Elliot had a great game in goal for Newcastle and kept Newcastle in the game as we were outplayed and outclassed in the first half but came back strongly in the final 45 minutes to make it a thrilling game that was end to end.

As usual Steve was calm and collected in his interview, but he felt for the players in the dressing room – whom he said gave their all and came on so well in the second half when we again had chances we missed to win the game.

But nobody can accuse this Newcastle team of not putting in a tremendous shift today – in the first half to simply hang on and see the game through to half time at 0-0  – and in the second half to come roaring back into the game when we could have taken all 3 points.

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Steve McClaren on the touchline against Everton

Not surprisingly McClaren said the players were down in the dressing room as he talked to BBC Sport after the game:

“I’m more disappointed for the set of players in there because they gave everything – they gave absolutely everything you talk about performance and they didn’t deserve to lose – but that’s football and two days time we go again.”

“We could have won that game and we shouldn’t have lost it – but we did.

“I thought there was some great defending and once they got past the defenses Robbie Elliot was great in goal. Some of our attacking play second half – if we’d have scored first we’d probably have won that game.”

“They’re down. They gave so much. That has to be appreciated. I told them I see a team in there. We’ll win games and get lucky sometimes. If we carry on like that we’ll have a stronger second half.”

Everton will point to their total dominance in the first half to claim they deserved to take all 3 points, even though Tom Cleverley’s winner was effectively the last touch of the game deep into the three minutes of stoppage time.

Newcastle are third bottom of the league again, but if we show the same spirit on Monday afternoon at the Hawthorns then we could pick up all 3 points in that game and end a terrible year on a positive note.

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132 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Tsunki // Dec 26, 2015 at 8:53 PM

    Ash Out!

  • 2 Tsunki // Dec 26, 2015 at 8:54 PM

    Angry frustrated man on the edge McLaren pics now. New folder eh Ed?

  • 3 Ron Knee // Dec 26, 2015 at 8:54 PM


    Amen to that!

  • 4 Tsunki // Dec 26, 2015 at 8:59 PM

    Angels ha ha chill mate it’s not the end just yet don’t go to the light! 🙂

  • 5 Ron Knee // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:00 PM

    Picture caption

    McClaren: “But I don’t want a Spurs reject, Mr Ashley!”

  • 6 Lilongwe Geordie // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:00 PM

    Maybe he is another poster’s alter ego, who knows. What is clear via his moniker is that he had one intention when he signed up for the blog, not football, but to act as a troll to Jail and any other person who doesn’t hold Ashley dear to their heart.

  • 7 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:00 PM

    Yo…you also think Colback is better than Anita 😉

  • 8 Hail Wor Ashley // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:03 PM

    Ah well, I know this blog can be a bubble, where reason falls foul to petty allegiances. Tsunki the latest brown nose to stick his oar in. Majority fan opinion on Twitter are giving Mitrovic the deserved stick and can see he isn’t up to scratch, I’ll take that as a real gauge of fan opinion, rather than casuals like Jesper who has no real connection or stake in NUFC, cheers!

  • 9 WWSBRD // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:04 PM

    We need a better second half mate, we are in the relegation zone…

    So do a lot of people bud. Can I ask why Newcastle didn’t deserve a point?

  • 10 Tsunki // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:06 PM

    Lilo I had an issue this morning about the Irritation mob and his they are curdling the blog with their contentious nonsense. The righteous Rev. Ian, his possible extensions sack Llambias Hail Wor Ashley, the odious jeff/jib and the cackling nibbler Welshgeordie. Mostly just controversy and nay saying. If the blog stopped entertaining and engaging them, football talk may just prevail.

  • 11 toonking // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:06 PM



    the point is we are no longer an average team, we’re a below average team who battles amongst the relegation.

    9 out of 10 people now see the premier league as 3 leagues. you’ve got the top 6 or above average teams such as arsenal, city and manure. You’ve then got the mid table battlers or as most would say your average premier league team such as everton, stoke or west ham. Finally it’s the relegation or below average teams such as scums villa and championship teams and that is the category team we ourselves belong to at this moment in time.

    As below average team Watford, Leicester and bournmouth are all ones you’d be thinking should be way further down the league and performing worse than they are but teams like have one advantage over teams such as villa and ourselves and that advantage is passion plus low expectation, playing in the premier league was there aim and now they’ve got it they enjoy it as good as they can before relegation comes back. We and villa are both teams who’ve lost all that passion, we use to be mid tabling and battling top 6 but all that has gone and now we’re both in full disarray but with that comes a big loss of passion so each and every result is more like a demand than a hope.

  • 12 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:08 PM

    Take care Hail…bye bye!

  • 13 angelswithdirtyfaces // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:09 PM


    Don’t think we are somehow going to escape relegation either by some fluke or somebody possibly playing worse than us. If a manager took a club down twice in 8 years he’d be virtually unemployable. When its the owner……… Nuff said ?

  • 14 Llort muw // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:10 PM

    Llort muw
    December 26, 2015

    Hold on, where did I say that this is enough to survive? Clearly, judging on where we are right now, signings are a must. My argument is that fans expect our team to just turn up and dominate against teams that are clearly better then us, in terms of quality anyway. If I’m not allowed to be proud of our team after today because we didn’t dominate Everton then that is ridiculous. We competed through the only way we can, hard work and determination. Not going to create alot but atleast they are trying, not like last season where we just turned over and we’re easy to beat.

  • 15 Lilongwe Geordie // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:11 PM

    Cracking response. Demonstrating maturity there. Well done. You reposted you saying he had missed chances. My apologies if I’m not going to take your word as gospel. Of that makes my English remedial, then so be it

    “He’s missed glaring chances all season, he’s a shite finisher. 3-4 good chances to score 1, said it since I first saw him.”

    That was the first post I saw, I said I didn’t think he had had 12 gilt edged chances. You responded by reposting that you had seen him miss chances.

    I hate to go to this, but what exactly is your background in football?

  • 16 WWSBRD // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:15 PM

    So against every team that comes to St James we as fans should expect to give them the ball?

  • 17 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:15 PM

    Tsunki…why we didn’t deserve a point? It’s nothing personal, but Everton should have buried us in the first half and outplayed us. More chances, possession better football.

    Everyone has chances but that doesn’t warrant we should have a point. Or in this case deserve a point.

  • 18 Lilongwe Geordie // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:16 PM

    As I said initially, he missed a cracking chance. His movement to create it was superb though. Maybe if we weren’t the worst in the league for creating chances, all our centre forwards would score more, just a thought….

  • 19 Belfast // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:16 PM

    Thought we lost the game today because we didn’t make any subs when we where clearly absolutely knackered. Old Belfast was waiting on the sucker punch for the last 30 minutes.

    I really wish Stevie would stop playing Dutch bloke with funny name wide left.

  • 20 firebug666 // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:17 PM

    All I can say is I am Sick to death.

    Sick off the “well we didn’t deserve to be beat”.

    Sick of playing for just 45 minutes.

    Sick of being saddled with mediocre wannabe managers who spout utter nonsense to deflect criticism.

    We are where we are because we are just not good enough to be any higher, we don’t take our chances, our plan “B” left the planet with Voyager one, and what is supposed to be our board of directors is a joke in the footballing world.

    We get linked to many players, but every man and his dog knows we only do business through one agency, and even then we get what’s left by the other clubs.

    In all honesty we are not a football club, that is also part of the advertising strategy set up by the fat slug.

    We exist to serve sports direct, not the fans, or the city, not the players. If we were they would have more pride, and more passion, but no! They also exist to serve the mighty Jabba in his conquest to sell cheap tat across the world.

    Sick to death is putting it mildly. I understand we tried in the second half and am gutted we lost, but the simple truth is we are not good enough and have not been since that fat man took over.

    This is the norm from now on, relegation battles until we are down, and lets face it when we do go down we will not be back for many years.

    Oh yes we try and try…..But then we fail!

  • 21 stuart no9 // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:17 PM

    we got what we deserved – zilch. the first half was the longest warm up session in football history . You cant really play for 45 mins and deserve to win . overall , everton better team aznd regardless what time the goal was scored , it was deserved in the end , gannin doon.

  • 22 jimiley // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:17 PM

    I think both Anita and Colo should be busting a gut to stop the ball going in the net. Instead, they just watch it sail slowly into the net. At the very least, one of them should be taking a red card to stop it and giving the keeper a chance to save the penalty in the last minute.

  • 23 Llort muw // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:18 PM

    December 26, 2015
    So against every team that comes to St James we as fans should expect to give them the ball?

    Don’t be silly, there are teams in the league that are worse then us… Just not Everton.

  • 24 WWSBRD // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:19 PM

    They deserved to win because they couldn’t score while on top? And we deserved to not draw because we couldn’t score when we were?

  • 25 Geremi's Prosthetic Leg Fund // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:21 PM

    The real issue here is that, whilst we’ve certainly improved from the dark days of last month, we are still dropping points when playing at our maximum.

    Ultimately it shows we simply aren’t good enough. The hierarchy yet again gambled on signings that aren’t good enough or not ready. The arrogance with which they operate is truly shocking, and for that reason if we do go down, we would certainly deserve to.

    Another real problems is the form of our relegation threatened peers. They are playing well and knicking wins and draws. There are no poor teams this year Sunderland and Villa aside. I just don’t think we are good enough, we’ve regressed year on year for 4 years. If the hierarchy don’t start taking it seriously, we’re done.

    Time to start spending the money on players that are ready, in positions that we need.

    This is the first time I’ve genuinely felt like we are heading down. The blip before was early in the season and whilst we have undoubtedly moved on from that, we still find ourselves in the bottom 3. If we are still there whilst playing to near our best, how are we going to stay up?

  • 26 angelswithdirtyfaces // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:21 PM


    So is the side that goes down honourably by every man trying his best in 2016 entirely different from a team of uncreative lucky strugglers who rolled over but survived by the skin of their teeth in 2015 ?

    Of course there is still time to avoid the drop, if only we get one point more than Swansea, WBA and anybody else aiming for 18th.

    “We’re fighting for the 3rd relegation place, and it doesn’t look like changing much in 2016.” Sadly, I do not believe we are another Leicester – and nor do you, I think.

    It’ll be Ashley determines our fate.

  • 27 stuart no9 // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:21 PM

    steve maclaren talking absolute shyte in that interview , we didnt deserve anything whats he on with . idiot.

  • 28 jimiley // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:22 PM

    We had one shot on target. They had much more dangerous possession and more shots on target. our keeper kept us in it. How can anybody say they did not deserve to win. It does not matter when you score.

  • 29 Ron Knee // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:24 PM


    You’re right. We ceased being a club when the asset-stripping parasite took over.

  • 30 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:24 PM

    Just got in fro match
    first twenty minutes Eerton blew us away could of been 3-0 down but as the game went on we grew into the game – and second half we were the better team and should of won if we took our chances.
    Elliot my MotM followed by Mbemba and Anita.
    Mitrovic thought was poor looked like he had ate to much turkey – slow ponderous – actually might make a good centre half as he cleared most of the corners from Everton.
    Dummet also struggled along with Colback the octopus – wish he would stop grabbing the opposition players.
    Thought referee had a stinker let Everton off – coleman in particular time and time again.
    Just before their corner and goal from the Gallowgate End looked like Sissoko was fouled deep in their half.
    Never mind play like we did second half and with the passion we showed AND convert the chances we create then we will climb the table.

    Keep the Faith
    Great atmosphere and tribute to PAV

  • 31 WWSBRD // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:25 PM

    Everton are average and had two of their spine missing today mate how much more do we need in order to merely match them on possession?

  • 32 will die for the toon army // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:26 PM

    Get in Austin. Mitro shld have won the game for us.

    Big Al is right we cant keep not finishing and we think we will win game.

    Mbemba shld have better decision making wen he gets to the front. He shld do it more often and show Mcca what to have as plan B.

  • 33 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:26 PM

    Yo…maybe I am watching some different football than you mate?

  • 34 WWSBRD // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:26 PM

    Anyhoo am off enjoy the rest of Boxing Day boys and girls

  • 35 jimiley // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:28 PM

    Ed, how can you say we put in a tremendous shift? We were embarrassing in the first half and matched Everton in the second. I would say we put in a decent half shift.

  • 36 banjax // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:28 PM

    A cruel way to lose a game and no doubt the players worked their socks off and some to the best of their ability. The observation by Alan Shearer about the inability to take scoring chances is certainly spot on, but on a night where our players were playing at their peak abilities, Everton’s players had more left in reserve. The reason Newcastle’s players are struggling is as a result of Newcastle’s recruitment strategy which is quite simply not providing too many players of quality who can hit the pace of the Premier League without needing extra stamina training, are too young and are quite simply not good enough. As manfully as they fought today, our players could not match Everton in large parts of the game and we were lucky Everton were mis-firing in front of goal otherwise things would have been different. Unless the Recuitment Criteria of Newcastle United changes drastically and we start to buy older more experienced players to add to the squad, then we will continue to under achieve.

  • 37 Lilongwe Geordie // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:30 PM

    Funnily enough, Hail Woe Ashley has complained about half our starting 11 in recent weeks, but still goes by a blog moniker which tells us to celebrate and praise the an who oversaw the assembly of this squad.

    Very odd.

    Anyway, that’s me for a bit. Be back at some point through the week.

  • 38 firebug666 // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:30 PM

    Ron Knee

    I just don’t see anyway forward, even if we spend in January it will be more unproven cheap assets in the hope they will hit the ground running and save Ashley another big payday.

    We played well in the second half, question is why were we not playing like that in the first half?

    Why can we not keep things going from start to finish for 90 minutes?

    Answer… The players we have are just not fit enough for the pace in the premier league, and lack stamina.

    This will truly be a relegation scrap all season, and who know the outcome?

    Even McClaren doesn’t think we will improve and he’s the bloody coach ffs.

  • 39 stuart no9 // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:30 PM

    charlie— play like we did in the first half and we are doon.

  • 40 Lilongwe Geordie // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:31 PM

    *the man who oversaw….

    Damned cracked screen….

  • 41 Llort muw // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:32 PM


    Everton have been set up to control games by there manager, they have the players and the capable back up to do this. We have been apparently set up to do the same however we lack the desired quality to match them.

  • 42 JP...from The Rock // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:32 PM

    Anita’s name is on the poll twice Ed. My M.oM and his best game in a toon shirt.

  • 43 Hail Wor Ashley // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:32 PM


    I’m not going anywhere, so I guess you are. See you again soon!

    Those you listed Tsunki, among others, talk the most football on here, it’s you and the cosy club that are off topic most of the time, having conversations that are more suitable elsewhere. Imagine, you could winky face and circle jerk, undisturbed, somewhere else! Wouldn’t that be grand?


    “Mine’s bigger than yours” – that’s your argument?

    Off the top of my head:

    3 goals
    4 glaring misses in the last few games – 2 headers 2 tap-ins
    Derby he missed a 1vs 1
    Man City he missed another tap-in chance to make it 2-0

    That’s without any sifting, those are fresh in the mind, the chances handed on a plate and we’re already at 3/9 and I said 3 or 4 good chances to score 1, so even before I go digging, I’m correct in what I say. Given the same chances, a top ST would have at least 7 of those 9. Do you understand?

  • 44 Hail Wor Ashley // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:34 PM

    And today not only did he miss his chances, but gave the ball away at the death for them to counter which resulted in the fatal corner.

  • 45 Ron Knee // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:36 PM


    It was the same under Percy: one good half, if we were lucky. Sub-standard players, sub-standard managers.

  • 46 lochinvar // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:38 PM

    Mitrovoc is showing naïveté in his positional play. It looks like his body positioning and running angles needs to be looked at. Instead of running from shallow positions trying to attack the ball on the diagonal ( which is why headers go wide ) he should be running onto crosses from slightly deeper ( like Shearer used to ) – perhaps his hero could help with his training.
    And he needs to focus on his game rather than trying to gee up the fans – if he scores we’ll do the rest.

    That was a bad loss as a win would have put us 3 points behind Everton – but they are now nine ahead on ninth.
    It’s all about the maths – winning two good games isn’t enough. We’ve just given away 5 points ah home against Villa and Everton which undoes the 6 previously gained.
    How does it go ” points make prizes “

  • 47 toonking // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:38 PM

    WW 16

    where in that post did I say every team?

    teams such as villa I expect a great performance, they’re a relegation battling team, but everton are not they are a better team than ourselves, they’ve consistantly improved over the last 8 years which ourselved have dropped, we’ve been in the championship, we’ve had two full seasons with just 1 intentional arrival whilst the rest were panic buys in europa league season and the season to follow.

    The bits where I talk about leicester and watford are nothing to do with our play against them all I’m talking about their is they’re teams who’ve already acheived the aims they have passion and don’t demand much more unlike ourselves who’ve got no passion and demanding better performances.

  • 48 Lilongwe Geordie // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:43 PM

    One last post then, just for you.

    “mines bigger than yours” not what I said, I asked your footballing background. Maybe we should take those remedial English lessons you suggested to me together?

    Lukaku missed 3 or 4 very good chances today, and does most games. You don’t seem to understand that very few strikers score more than a quarter of their chances.

    Yes, Mitro missed an excellent chance, and one, possibly 2 decent half chances. His movement for his excellent chance was superb. He pulled off his marker then attacked the space between defenders. Maybe if we gave food service like that ore often he would score more. We don’t because we font play with width or people who can deliver good service regularly.

    Put any striker outside of the world’s best up front for us and they won’t score regularly.

    Anyway, off now. Feel free to engage or not, if you do I’ll try and get back to you when next on.

  • 49 Llort muw // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:43 PM


    Ultimately, you’re right! They would count for the same thing. But which season would be more enjoyable for the fans? Yes, relegation isn’t fun, but there can be games that were enjoyable… Like today, we lost. But the game was very entertaining. I feel like there will be many of the same this season. But hopefully we nick the win.

  • 50 Lindisfarne // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:43 PM

    An unfortunate loss today, but the upside is that I thought it would be anyway. The more the game progressed the more chance we had of turning it over, which was good but in reality a poor situation to be in.

    I don’t really have any complaints but…I do wonder why we could not bring on more substitutes, to refresh some areas of the pitch and to relieve the pressure on some players in this busy period. Plus, it appears Thauvin for Perez was the predetermined substitution, when perhaps an exchange with Mitro would have changed the dynamic and given them something different to think about at the back. In addition, bringing a sub on before their last corner kick would have at least given the defense more time to compose themselves.

    On a sodden pitch that was very draining on energy, Mitro tried really hard, he was not great but has the potential to get better and better. Shearer needs to do a one on one session with him, give him a few pointers and instruct him on how to get fitter.

  • 51 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:44 PM

    stuart no9
    play like the second half will be safe!!!

  • 52 lochinvar // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:44 PM

    Southampton are good at maths – clever these south coast clubs. Four goals to Arsenal”s nil wins the game. Apparently scoring goals does that.

  • 53 firebug666 // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:44 PM

    Ron Knee

    Is there anything above sub-standard at our club? Tea lady excluded.

    We were never really at the races, a better second half, but no cutting edge, no decisive play, and we still give the ball away far to easily.

    The one thing we are consistent at is playing to the oppositions strengths, we manage that really well.

    I am still hopeful of staying up this season, depending on what we do next month, but if we follow this same pattern I fear the season will be over for us by the end of February.

  • 54 Lilongwe Geordie // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:45 PM

    Few typos in there thanks to the cracked screen, but I’m sure people can figure out what is meant……

  • 55 lochinvar // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:50 PM

    Giving Shearer a role as personal trainer to Mitro is a sound idea – if the club can get their head round that.
    Shearer is the one person the kid is likely to listen to and if that motivates him, improves his game and positional sense along with some fitness training then that can only be good – and cheaper than signing Austin so Fashley might be tempted to go for it and save some dosh.

  • 56 firebug666 // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:54 PM

    Charlie @51

    Play like the first half and we are down.

    We cannot really accept just a second half performance, Everton could have been out of sight in that first half if they were more clinical, and we were at home for Christs sake, on another day if we played like that the game would have been over.

    We need 90+ minutes from the team not a good 45.

    Overall we were poor, even in the last 45 minutes we gave up possession far to easily.

    As things stand we are not a premiership side, and are quite a long way from becoming one.

  • 57 expatmag // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:54 PM

    McLaren might feel hard done by but as fans, how hard done by do we feel when we see the likes of De Jong and Mitrovic getting paid £40K circa a week to kiss goalscoring opportunities my granny would have put away whilst still in her zimmerframe.

    This club has relegation written all over it and the only ones who DONT deserve it are the fans.

  • 58 expatmag // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:55 PM


  • 59 Llort muw // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:57 PM


    But taking a positive out of a negative the fact we didn’t conceded a goal in that first half is encouraging.

  • 60 jimmysmith // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:58 PM

    Three arguably four of our best players are number tens. Carr needs to scout the type of players the coach specifically asks for, and Charnley needs to get them. It’s impossible to get our best 11 on the pitch at the same time, and has been as long as Carr has been top dog of recruitment.

    The team that started but with a quality attacking left back maybe works, and I think dropping SDJ was a mistake. Perez is a great option of the bench, against tired legs, and De Jong has loads of quality and experience that is only starting to be shown, but that we certainly need.

  • 61 Ron Knee // Dec 26, 2015 at 9:58 PM


    It seems to be coming down to this: Will we be able to just finish above Villa, SAFC and Norwich at the end of the season?

  • 62 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Dec 26, 2015 at 10:04 PM

    I think the first step to recovery is to stop looking for obscure positives and taking the bull by the horn!

    …address the problems and fix them.

  • 63 firebug666 // Dec 26, 2015 at 10:05 PM

    Llort muw

    But is that not just papering over the cracks mate. Everton had a lot of possession, and ultimately squandered their chances.

    The point is we cannot ride our luck like that, Elliot saved us an embarrassment today or we could have conceded a lot more.

    We fluffed the few chances we had, and at the death it cost us, needless to say this team is not ready for the challenges of the premier league.

    We were (as usual) lacklustre in the first half, but grew into the game in the second half, I thought we deserved a point for our second half display, but feel that if we played like that for 90 minutes we could have had all three, as it was we got none.

  • 64 firebug666 // Dec 26, 2015 at 10:16 PM


    Do you think we will survive, I know Norwich will fight all the way for survival, and the Makems have a habbit of saving themselves, (even at the cost of woman and children)

    It’s not easy to say mate but we are in deep trouble here, and it’s not looking good.

    Will Ashley splash the cash and buy another five players to save us this time around?

    Will it be more mediocre value for money pound for pound?

    For me the latter question will take us down.

  • 65 Our Toon // Dec 26, 2015 at 10:28 PM

    Anita and Mbemba were class today, elliot for some reason is absolved of any blame. The idiot flapped at the cross with a poor punch when in all reality he should have caught it.

    Lukaku missed more chances than mitro today, Elliot made some good saves but what was the point seeing as he gifted them the winner

  • 66 Our Toon // Dec 26, 2015 at 10:32 PM

    As for those calling for Austin aka 3:16 he’s out injured…..again!!

  • 67 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Dec 26, 2015 at 10:35 PM

    firebug mate…will you survive you ask? Personally I ask for once Ashley’s reluctance to admit he was wrong will cost us…whether or not it will cost us dearly and relegate us I not sure yet;

    …chances are it will!

  • 68 lesh // Dec 26, 2015 at 10:45 PM

    I listened to the match on the radio and what I sensed was that from kick-off, McClaren had the lads sitting back absorbing attack after attack from Everton.

    I have missed something (as did Mitro a couple of great opportunities) but if that was the case, that approach just negates any home advantage and makes the opposition even more determined to try different approaches.

    Perhaps anyone who was at the match could comment.

  • 69 firebug666 // Dec 26, 2015 at 10:45 PM


    I’m not sure how much it matters to Ashley, He got what he wanted, he stripped the club bare, and cleared away any obstruction stopping his advertising being visible, and has easily made his money back and some.

    I think he would like us to stay up as it is more lovely money for him and for SD, but would he be that bothered if we sunk to the lower echelons?

    Slowly it is looking for all the world like our club is finished in the premiership, we just cannot compete and ultimately we will go down, maybe not this season, maybe lady luck will smile, but under Ashley we are destined for relegation.

    The idiots will fiddle while the club burns. and the sad thing is, they will still be smiling and claim nothing is wrong.

  • 70 lesh // Dec 26, 2015 at 10:49 PM

    There’s a ad that appears on the Blog and it reads:

    5 Tools for Brain Enhancement.

    Now why did the names Ashley, Charnley, Carr, Moncur come to mind?

    Oh, I didn’t include McClaren as I’ve given him the benefit of the doubt having been suckered into the HC job.

  • 71 firebug666 // Dec 26, 2015 at 10:51 PM



    We turned up for the second half mate, less said about the first half the better. Still gave the ball away to easily, squandered the couple of chances we had, and got punished at the death……Sound familiar?

  • 72 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Dec 26, 2015 at 10:53 PM

    firebug…O cannot figure Ashley out to be honest!

    …I don’t understand his reasoning and I don’t understand the purpose of Mr. Charnley!

  • 73 lesh // Dec 26, 2015 at 10:56 PM

    Llort Muw……

    Reverse the name and well, well, Wum Troll.

    Now who could that be I wonder?

  • 74 firebug666 // Dec 26, 2015 at 10:58 PM


    The purpose of Charnley was he was available cost nothing to promote, and is the new perfect shield to deflect criticism from the fat man himself.

    As for Ashley, well he is easy to comprehend. If he thinks something should work, it will work, or it better work because it’s his way and he ain’t gonna change that for anyone.

    Even when it is failing it will work at some point cos it’s Ashley’s idea, and they always work.

  • 75 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Dec 26, 2015 at 10:58 PM

    lesh…he wasn’t suckered mate…and neither was Pardew.

    …you are just worried you got suckered into believing in him I think 😉

  • 76 firebug666 // Dec 26, 2015 at 10:59 PM


    Iv’e had too much to drink mate, well spotted, I was talking with him too earlier.


  • 77 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Dec 26, 2015 at 11:00 PM

    *O = I

  • 78 lesh // Dec 26, 2015 at 11:08 PM


    Too much to drink? You can’t have, you’re making sense. Anyway, enjoy it – you probably need it after today’s performance.

    On another note, I know that Carr’s getting a lot of stick and I wonder if the writer of this 2011 blog might look back at it.

  • 79 jane // Dec 26, 2015 at 11:12 PM

    overall we didn’t play too badly today. to lose so late is unlucky but boot was on the other foot at Spurs. if De Jong and Mitro had taken their big chances the last two games it might have been different.

    there is no need for too much gloom yet 6 teams are separated by 3 pts for what is looking like 1 relegation place.

    13 West Brom 20
    14 Bournemouth 20
    15 Chelsea 19
    16 Swansea 18
    17 Norwich 17
    18 Newcastle 17

  • 80 lesh // Dec 26, 2015 at 11:16 PM


    I believe McClaren was suckered into the job.

    You know how it is Jesper, the words used to sell him the job don’t quite reflect the reality.

    You know how it is when your selling something – you don’t lie about it but you’ll probably embellish the positives!

    What was it Keegan once said during his first stint at SJP?

    ‘It wasn’t like it said in the brochure’ or words to that effect.

    That, I believe is McClaren’s situation.

  • 81 firebug666 // Dec 26, 2015 at 11:16 PM


    Ah yes, but then in those early days players were coming into a stongish team, that was already established and doing not so bad in the league, but those players have gone now, and a new team, (Carr’s team if you like) has emerged, a team of weak lilly livered pride-less players who’s only ambition is to move on to a bigger club.

    Oh the excitement is almost too much.

    Carr’s criteria!

    No backbone
    No fight
    No ambition
    No self worth
    No honour
    Cheap or out of contract

    Perfect sign them up.

  • 82 firebug666 // Dec 26, 2015 at 11:18 PM

    *Strongish even

    Before Jib picks it up

  • 83 lesh // Dec 26, 2015 at 11:21 PM


    I believe that had McClaren been told about the reality instead of given half-truths such as having input into transfer dealings, he wouldn’t have come to SJP.

    Cast your mind back to a comment Keegan made first time around, when he walked out fir the first time:

    He used words to the effect of ‘It wasn’t as described in the brochure’

  • 84 croftus5678 // Dec 26, 2015 at 11:24 PM

    the only players for us who didnt have a great game was mitrovic and perez imo as perez was not himself and showed he lacked that edge and experience and mitrovic not because of the way he played as he played great but his finishing was very very poor imo and he’s a striker thats his main job.

    elliott/colo/mbem/anita/sissoko for the special praise imo as they really gave there all.

    and i’m kinda thinking wijnaldum needs to be in that no10 role and have sissoko and thauvin as the wingers.

  • 85 welshgeordie9 // Dec 26, 2015 at 11:24 PM


    Having a dig at de Jong and mitrovic missing their chances, I suppose you could do better.

  • 86 fresh sarnie // Dec 26, 2015 at 11:25 PM

    Long time reader, first time poster. Thought the team showed a lot of fight and determination today, apart from the first 20 minutes. Sick of seeing how we were constantly exposed down the left flank, not due to dummet being a poor left back, rather wijnaldum having no positional sense when playing left mid. Coleman was allowed far to much freedom to link up with Lennon and carry the ball forward. The team would benefit a hell of a lot with an out and out winger down the left, allowing wijnaldum to become that creative player we desperately need in the middle. Maybe not in the way of a critical passer but to make some runs through the middle and carry the ball (dyer?).

  • 87 welshgeordie9 // Dec 26, 2015 at 11:26 PM

    Good effort from all the players today, shows they care about the club, some of their faces after the game says it all.

  • 88 welshgeordie9 // Dec 26, 2015 at 11:28 PM

    Who to bring in January and of course how many do we need.

  • 89 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Dec 26, 2015 at 11:28 PM

    firebug…it’s not an answer that satisfy me mate…it does not really explain the situation…or should I say make sense.

    lesh…this job like with Pardew before him is to important to them. It’s an opportunity! He knew perfectly what he signed up for…don’t be fouled by that for one minute.

    It’s not always as it seems…Pardew and now McClaren are playing the exact same game as Ashley. Pardew even won the last time 😉

  • 90 Blackley and Brownlie // Dec 26, 2015 at 11:32 PM

    I stayed to applaud the players off. They didn’t deserve the result for the effort they put in. Very cruel. Best game I’ve seen from Colo this season.

    We were awful in the first half but I put that down to Makro’s poor tactics and inability to change it. The players were in the wrong places.

    I said from the start of the season that Mitro and Perez haven’t got enough goals in them. Graham Carr is culpable for not getting it.

  • 91 lesh // Dec 26, 2015 at 11:32 PM


    Perez wasn’t 100% at the match and I wonder if his mind’s elsewhere.

    It wouldn’t surprise me if a relative kid of his age had his thoughts on talk of ManU, Spurs et al.

    One thing’s for sure though if they sell any of our top players in January, last year’s Ashley Out campaign’ll pale into insignificance compared to renewed fan hostility.

    And if fans do kick off, then it’s understandable and if the Club starts to sink, then so be it.

    Black and white blood or not, transfusions are sometimes necessary.

  • 92 firebug666 // Dec 26, 2015 at 11:35 PM


    It would be very difficult to find an honest answer that would satisfy anyone regarding the running of the club.

    Charnley is MD because it was cheap and easy for Ashley to promote him rather than bring in a fit a proper person for the job, that’s Ashley’s way.

    On the bright side mate we know the direction the club is headed, if we do better than relegation it’s a massive bonus for us, and a happy happy pay day for Ashley.

  • 93 Blackley and Brownlie // Dec 26, 2015 at 11:37 PM

    Anita, Elliot and Mbemba were the stand out performers for us today.

    Once again Jamnutz was wasteful, giving the ball away when we’re committed and only jogging back when moves break down.

  • 94 croftus5678 // Dec 26, 2015 at 11:37 PM

    @90 lesh

    i agree.

    although if for example we get willems / austin and matip i’ll excuse us selling perez 😉 i’d even throw goofy in for free 🙂

  • 95 jane // Dec 26, 2015 at 11:42 PM

    running a club is a big operation it doesn’t just depend on one or two people however senior. everyone from the top to the bottom has to pull together like any business.

  • 96 Jib // Dec 26, 2015 at 11:43 PM


    Thanks for your take on the game.

    Interesting your view of Mitro .

    I’m not sure I followed it properly but Alex from Gosforth seemed to be saying
    —— “Look I have some coaching badges and work with kids in Malawi – so if I say Mitrovic is geet lush , he’s geet lush right !!!”

    I watched the Pavel stuff on Youtube – pretty impressive !!!

  • 97 Belfast // Dec 26, 2015 at 11:56 PM

    What a sickner that was.

  • 98 jane // Dec 27, 2015 at 12:04 AM

    certainly was.

  • 99 JamesToon // Dec 27, 2015 at 12:13 AM

    We’re in the bottom 3 and the players and mcclaren need to sort this out.

    We need to start controlling games and we need the right players in January to do that.
    – Tall centre half to complement Mbemba
    – Decent left back
    – Ball winning midfielder
    – Deep lying playmaker
    – Pacey winger
    – pacey striker

    All of those need quality and at least some prem experience

  • 100 Graeme // Dec 27, 2015 at 12:27 AM

    Out-played, Out-thought, Out-fought.
    We were not good enough, yet again, for any number of reasons.
    The FCB’s “Masterplan” to maximise profits and tick over in mid-table, while collecting the loot and the free advertising is clearly not working, yet again!!!
    At least the Goalie was good enough to keep the score respectable!!

  • 101 GeordieTwo // Dec 27, 2015 at 12:29 AM

    I was very excited until the game started. Then I got a bit concerned when they had 74% possession in the first half and we had no shots on goal. 😯

  • 102 GeordieTwo // Dec 27, 2015 at 12:30 AM

    The owner would have to rally to be called an idiot.

  • 103 GeordieTwo // Dec 27, 2015 at 12:32 AM

    Is there any way we can avoid actually playing the matches and just have the opposition over for tea?

  • 104 lesh // Dec 27, 2015 at 12:34 AM


    If you’d forgive them selling Perez if we got the other three, the drink’s kicking in.

  • 105 Toon Tang // Dec 27, 2015 at 12:38 AM

    Why oh bloody chuffing why oh why did no one manage to see that ball off the line?? That scabby looping turd of a header was in the air for what seemed like 30 seconds. We had 2 on the line. Just bloody chuck yourself at it please someone. ANYONE

  • 106 Tsunki // Dec 27, 2015 at 12:40 AM

    Hail Wor Ashley. A name derived to counter the perceived venom toward his hero, and thereby his beleaguered team, the lads. Curiously, Hail and his like minded allies have turned coat today so they can argue against a poster who does know more than most of us about the technicalities of the game and why? Because their remit is controversy. Hail, who am I brown nosing to? Is my optimistic talk of signs of a turnaround too much to bear? Could I be presenting a problem by not being totally denigrating to the team today? You have yet to state a fact or any knowledge and again you strike out to personally insult, all the while accusing others of not keeping matters football-related. Cue Jeff and Welsh chiming in like backing singers. We’re all trying to focus one the hood and bad of today and you are doing the same as usual, wind milling in amongst it like loudmouth brats fill of bluster and no content at all. Bravo, tools of magnificence, Bravo!

  • 107 Toon Tang // Dec 27, 2015 at 12:41 AM

    the keepers in no mans land, someone read that situation and build a dry stone wall or something. Hadrian himself could have built one in the time it took that ball dropped into the onion satchel. For CHUFFS SAKES

  • 108 Toon Tang // Dec 27, 2015 at 12:44 AM

    In the end though I was looking forward to moving up a couple of spaces on the back of a 0-0 barnstormer. One swift volley to the knackers later and I’m sat crying in to my bearded dragons face.

  • 109 Tsunki // Dec 27, 2015 at 12:45 AM

    I think we stepped onto the pitch knowing they would think they were onto a winner. Containment and measuring the opposition was the order of the day. Although we were a bit battered, I thought that going into the second half honours even was a good sign. We put some pretty good moves together in the second half. You could tell the relief they had by their celebration at the goal. We were truly unfortunate, a point would have been fairer and at the start of the day I’m sure all would have taken someone’s hand off for that offer. In hindsight, sm’s previous tactics of bringing on mitrovic Thauvin and Perez for last 20 minutes would have worked today.

  • 110 Toon Tang // Dec 27, 2015 at 12:50 AM

    Anita played another blinder. Well done to him. Mbemba’s last ditch tackle on lukaku was another key moment. He played really well also.

    Colo was on/off off/on Lukaku slipped away from him too many times. On another day we could have been nailed but at the same time we could also have won it with the Mitro header (what the bloody hell type of header was that??)

    The boys done half good

  • 111 GeordieTwo // Dec 27, 2015 at 12:52 AM

    I say we go for it. Wor tea lady against their tea lady for the honours……Huzzah!!!

  • 112 GeordieTwo // Dec 27, 2015 at 12:54 AM

    Second half was decent but that first half? They just toyed with us. You can’t play like that at home and hope for miracles. This is ridiculous. Sack McLaren and get rid of Carr and Charnley. Bring in a proper DOF and start over again.

  • 113 expatmag // Dec 27, 2015 at 12:55 AM


    Fcuks sake……I would even back YOU to do better.

  • 114 Tsunki // Dec 27, 2015 at 12:57 AM

    We just need about three good signings in January to stave off the injury list. I think we can stay afloat if we keep our heads, I thought things looked an awful lot worse before the Liverpool game.

  • 115 expatmag // Dec 27, 2015 at 1:01 AM


    but did you applaud them off at half time?

    What possible reason could they give for not turning up for 45 minutes at HOME????????

    Bus break down on the way to the ground??????,

  • 116 pawl250 // Dec 27, 2015 at 1:09 AM

    How the did Elliot get most votes?

    Saves he made were not that hard and he was the reason we lost with that awful punch to Cleverly!

    Mbemba was a soldier today, where Colo looked skeptical against Lukaku, Mbemba was solid.

    Anita was good, Colback was AVERAGE!

    Perez was AWFUL! I actually prefer De Jong as Perez holds ball too long and is not great and working back. He should be up top or on the bench for an impact sub, or on the wing.

    Sissoko is as always hot and cold.

    Did we deserve to win, no. Did we deserve to lose, yes.

    Could and should have been down to 10 men with Janmaat being the liability he is at times. And Colo should have given a penalty away.

    People complaining about ref need glasses, all the big decisions went our way.

    We were very average.

    Mitrovic is a donkey

  • 117 expatmag // Dec 27, 2015 at 1:44 AM

    I was over in the UK in October and was unfortunate enough to witness the 3 home games in a row v Watford Wednesday and Chelsea. Whilst we were marginally better against a distinctly average Chelsea team, we threw away 2 points when we had them on the ropes. Against Watford and Sheffield Wednesday reserves, we didnt start playing until the last 10 minutes in both games and deserved to lose both games.

    The game against Everton was disgraceful especially in the first half where we were totally outplayed. Tje facts dont lie.

    Everton had infinitely more possession (almost 20% more). They had double the amount of efforts at goal and seven times the number on target. AND WE WERE THE HOME TEAM.

    We have struggled for years in defence and yet, other than Mbemba, no other quality central defender has been signed by the club in SIX YEARS.

    We have failed to sign a playmaker in midfield since Cabaye was sold over TWO YEARS AGO.

    We are now told Mitrovic was signed for the future and not now. Which means we havent signed a decent centre forward since Demba Ba left over 3 years ago.

    If Ashley doesnt address these 3 major areas in January with preferably quality premiership experienced players plus adding in a winger and a left back, then he will be staring down the barrell of a relegation gun which I fear, the club will not avoid nor recover from quickly.

  • 118 Thump // Dec 27, 2015 at 2:18 AM

    @Pawl: because he had more touches of the ball. Seriously, we heard more about Elliot all fan than we did any other player.

    And also because your soldier may have let a good few chances slip beyond him. Colo coped with Lukaku as well as he could (read: poorly) but you didn’t see him dashing across to cover for his mate did you? Mbemba had a good game but Elliot was ultimately the reason we lost by only one goal. It would have been a cricket score any other day.

  • 119 Mister Tuff // Dec 27, 2015 at 2:20 AM

    expat – interesting that the club a putting it out that Mitro was signed as a development player – suggests to me that they are paving the way for the purchase of a centre forward – Austin????

    Chronics report that we wont be signing defenders along with the recall of Willo – suggests indeed no central defenders.

    No replacement of Cabs – really showed itself today. There were a few attempts at threaded passes 2 by Sissoko and a one by Gini – whilst they saw the passes -the ability to execute was absent.

    I expect a minimum of 2 purchases at least and probably £30 million spent and we will probably just avoid the drop.
    The knackers running the club are amateurs and their luck/gambles will eventually run out.

  • 120 expatmag // Dec 27, 2015 at 3:01 AM


    I admire your confidence but I think the gambler will lose big time because I cannot see anyone decent signing for this club.

    We have had 8 years of shyte from these pricks who cannot see the bleeding obvious.

  • 121 terencelim // Dec 27, 2015 at 3:25 AM

    Same old Christmas gift from Ashley and his ass lickers – a relegation zone.

  • 122 ilovetoon8788 // Dec 27, 2015 at 3:39 AM

    effort alone wont keep us in this league. we can go on talking about our effort and being unlucky and moan while we are in the championship.

    our tactics and passing were woeful at times. sisokko contributes too little and the amount of time the final ball was hopeless.

  • 123 Blofal // Dec 27, 2015 at 4:35 AM

    Expat agree with all of that 100%.

    They have been signing Graham Carr wonder kids assuming all of them will be the next Yohan Cabaye and hit the ground running.

    The fact is most players take time to adapt and right now we need premier league proven players. But above all to me we need someone in the midfield who can control the game. Colback and Anita aren’t even a shadow of Cabaye and Tiote (3 years ago).

    A big problem with our defence besides the lack of investment is the opposition just walk through our midfield. Anita and Colback harry and try hard – but they never dictate games.

  • 124 JDdubai // Dec 27, 2015 at 4:46 AM

    If SDJ last week and Mitro this week could head a ball from 6 yards out we could have had another 5 points and been 13th.

    Thought the performance was ok apart from the first 20mins where we just didnt start.

    Mitrovic needs to up his work rate, very lazy, too many times the ball doesnt stick also.

    Anita outstanding, Elliot also.

    Perez quiet, poor night from him, Wijnaldum also was below his usual level. We still have little/no threat down the left – need a LB who can attack like Janmaat does to overlap when wini cuts inside.

  • 125 Blofal // Dec 27, 2015 at 5:15 AM

    Anita and Colback should both be squad players that we bring on when we want to kill a game off.

  • 126 The overrated Frenchman // Dec 27, 2015 at 5:29 AM

    McClaren seems to have been happy with the performance – “gave everything” etc. etc. What a crock. Absolutely outplayed in the first half, and more or less broke even in the second, but still managed to lose. So that will be good enough to keep us up Steve? You think so? The table tells the tale – we have made zero progress with this squad and this manager. Anybody who thinks we are going to suddenly “turn the corner” out of nowhere is dreaming. Nobody is improving. We’re not playing better football. Nothing is evolving. And who thinks the mighty brains trust of Charnley and Carr are going to turn it around with spectacular signings in January? Not me for one. I’m sick of it all.

  • 127 expatmag // Dec 27, 2015 at 5:45 AM


    A blind nan can see where the problems lie in this club yet we continue to make the same mistakes, year after year.

    The policy of buying young and foreign is fundementally flawed because it has resulted in continuous struggles against relegation each season and a lack of success in producing good players.

    Whilst the likes of Cabaye, Debuchy and Ba can be termed as successes with reasonable profit generated from their sales, the likes of Marveaux, Obertan, Gouffran, Mbiwa, Cabella, Haidara, HBA, Riviere have proven to be expensive flops for one reason or another. The jury is still out on the likes of Mitrovic, Sissoko and Thauvin but I see little to get enthusiastic about.

    Thats a lot if flops and a huge waste of money. The powers to be state they want to be top 8 and win a cup but it is clear that this current policy will not achieve those aims. The likes of Watford, Bournemouth and Leicester are buying lower cheaper experienced level players eg Huth, Distin and Morgan and with decent coaching, they are achieving good success.

    What do we do?

    I cannot see a plan. Pre season was a joke. The main season started early but we started buying late and packed on a stupid overseas trip which surely impacted and contributed to a bad start.

    Top of the injury league table yet again. It cannot all be down to bad luck. It is more than likely bad choices in injury prone players like Marveaux Obertan Taylor etc.

    The youth system seems flawed too. How many decent kids gave we produced??????? Carroll Krul Armstrong in 7 or 8 years????? Dummett perhaps…..not many, is it? Why is this? An in depth independent analysis of the entire academy set up should be conducted from top to bottom and ruthless changes should be effected.

    A full review of the scouting system especially the leadership and decision making process at top level should be conducted with a view to incorporating more domestic based scouts looking at players with premiership/Championship players of good quality and stop looking continually at the cheapest options available.

    Finally, appoint a Chief Executive with a good knowledge of not only the game but a decent business acumen to take this club forward again.

    Get these points right and we might just be proud of our club again. Alas, I think all I am doing is wishful thinking and shoveling shit uphill. Maybe things will change once the fatman pisses off.

  • 128 Lilongwe Geordie // Dec 27, 2015 at 6:57 AM

    The West Brom game is now huge for us. We have to win that prior to our trip to the Emirates where any points would be a bonus. Anything less than a win against West Brom and the alarm bells should be ringing again for McClaren (they shouldn’t have ever stopped really).

    Villa have two massive fixtures coming up, Norwich and then Sunderland. If they lose either, and realistically if they don’t win both they are done for. If they beat Sunderland and draw with Norwich that would suit me, it would virtually consign both Sunderland and Villa to the drop, leaving just 1 place to go. Norwich have Southampton and Sunderland Liverfool as their other match, maybe a point in their for Norwich, but nowt for Sunderland.

    Bournemouth play Arsenal and then Leicester, so beating West Brom gives us a good chance to draw level on points with them. West Brom play Stoke after us, so beating them could see us drag them right into the mix. Swansea play Palace and then Man U, I reckon they will pick up a few points in those games, I have a feeling they will beat Palace, Man U could depend on whether they have made a change by that point.

  • 129 Lilongwe Geordie // Dec 27, 2015 at 7:15 AM

    “I’m not sure I followed it properly but Alex from Gosforth seemed to be saying
    —— “Look I have some coaching badges and work with kids in Malawi – so if I say Mitrovic is geet lush , he’s geet lush right !!!””

    You are right, you don’t follow. Hail questioned my ability to comprehend English, and my understanding of the game. Whilst also trying to accuse me of “weaseling out”, “twisting” and being “obtuse”. All well and good, but I would expect someone who does that to be able to back it up with a background in the game, so I asked. I rarely bring up anything to do with my background in the game unless talking about how the academy and kids are getting on.

    I also never said Mitro was “geet lush”. It was a bad miss, but Lukaku missed more clear cut chances yesterday, all strikers do. I doubt Mitro would be anywhere near one of the worst offenders for that this season – partly because he hasn’t had the chances.

    I said his movement for the chance he missed was superb and “More often than not he will bury it with that sort of play.” How many times have we got to the ball wide and put in good aerial deliveries that he can attack? That is where Mitro is at his best, yet we don’t deliver that service to him anywhere near often enough. I can really only remember twice when we have done that, yesterday and his header off the bar at Old Trafford.

    I fully agree that he is slow, he isn’t going to burst past several defenders and score. You have to play to his strengths or there is little point in playing him. Width, or attacking movement around him getting into the channels to supply good crosses for him. Again, we don’t do this. Give the lad the right service and he will score, he is no different to most strikers in that respect.

    Maybe rather than charging in to try and have a point score against posters you should present a considered argument on the topic. Looking at the type of chances we create, the players strengths and weaknesses and analysing from that where the problems are. Sissoko, Janmaat, Dummet, Wijnaldum and Perez all had numerous opportunities to deliver good crosses into the box for Mitro to attack but didn’t. Maybe if they did provide good service our centre forwards – Cisse included – would score more goals.

  • 130 Lilongwe Geordie // Dec 27, 2015 at 7:17 AM

    *to tray and point score

    Anyway, that is my brief visit for the day. Off out with the dogs.

  • 131 Lilongwe Geordie // Dec 27, 2015 at 7:17 AM

    Oh f off computer…. *try

  • 132 The overrated Frenchman // Dec 27, 2015 at 7:34 AM

    Expat@127 – your second last paragraph is exactly right. We desperately need someone with football smarts making the important decisions. Charnley may be a capable bloke in some respects but he knows nothing about football. Given the constraints that Ashley puts on whoever does that job he (or she) absolutely MUST have a good football brain to make the model work. Throw in the well demonstrated incompetence of Carr and it’s a recipe for failure. As we are witnessing.

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