McClaren Still Confident Despite Dismal Record


We suppose Steve McClaren hasn´t got much choice about what he says after the games – especially when we lose and we have lost 10 of our 19 league games so far this season.

In the position he´s in – he just has to remain upbeat and positive – and he will also know that Mike Ashley is listening to what he´s saying.

But we wonder if he really thinks we were unlucky yesterday with just two shots on target?

Steve McClaren Close Up B+W 2015

Steve McClaren – onward we go

If the team is 3rd bottom and has had a terrible start to the season any Newcastle manager will come in  for some heavy criticism – that´s just the way it is.

And Steve is getting heavy criticism after our second defeat in a row to end a terrible 2015.

Here´s what Steve said after the game yesterday:

“We have to continue with the attitude and character we are showing at the present moment.”

“You are just hoping that fortune will turn around. If we keep working as hard as we have done over recent games that will turn around.”

“I’ve no doubt about that. There’s enough ability and quality in there. So onward we go.”

“Transfers are something we will discuss privately. We will sit down in the next few days and see where we go.”

“I think the team went over and were applauded by the fans.” “Whatever we do, we will continue to recognize the fans after a game.”

“Win, lose or draw, I think it’s important. I thought the support was magnificent all the way through.”

“We are disappointed, not just for ourselves, but also for the fans because sometimes you don’t get what you deserve in football, and in the last two games, we haven’t.”

“But we have to continue what we’ve been doing and know it’ll turn around.”

Here´s our record so far and it doesn make for pretty reading.

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Newcastle need some new signings next month, but we don´t really know who they are going to try to bring in, and we certainly don´t expect Steve McClaren to say who Newcastle are after,

That would be dumb.

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106 comments so far

  • Transfer Sage

    Dec 29, 2015 at 8:41 AM

    Comment #1

    Ron

    I suppose for scouting the buck stops with your chief scout…providing he has the resources and people to do the job properly.

    From what I’ve seen clubs like Arsenal, even in he Durham area, have a couple of people who watch junior games and recommend players for more senior scouts who the club officially employ to come and view. The local blokes get a bit of a finders fee….not much like.

    It’s basically connections, the more people you have employed the more connections they will have.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Dec 29, 2015 at 8:42 AM

    Comment #2

    apologies…should be directed to cyprus not ron

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  • cyprus

    Dec 29, 2015 at 8:42 AM

    Comment #3

    TS,
    I have no idea how our scouting system works, an ex-spurs director (forget his name) explained it a bit on TV, outlining how and why the bigger clubs find the gems. Essentially, it was strength in numbers and experience, as I got it.

    Like you said, he’s missed some good ones, even in France. Fans say we go for bargain basement but the facts say otherwise. Other teams have bought much better much cheaper.

    I don’t think you can point the finger at anyone particularly, usually it’s down to many people. Although the ‘buck’ stops with MA (his appointments), if I were, I’d go with Carr. We really have fallen way behind the Evertons of this world. Our players are worse than theirs.

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Dec 29, 2015 at 8:45 AM

    Comment #4

    So he’s still in a job…and what about Charnley?

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Dec 29, 2015 at 8:45 AM

    Comment #5

    Lilongwe Geordie
    December 29, 2015
    My biggest issue with Carr is the level he has been elevated to. All scouts get it wrong, most get more wrong then right, but they aren’t as high profile. For some reason our chief scout is on our board and has far more influence then a chief scout should.

    He has made some good signings and some bad ones with a couple atrocious signings in to boot.

    How many chief scouts can people on here name without the use of google? I’d wager not many, if any at all.

    The club won’t appoint well qualified people to the board so people who shouldn’t have so much power end up in this position. Another drawback of Ashley’s model for running the club.

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  • cyprus

    Dec 29, 2015 at 8:46 AM

    Comment #6

    TS,
    true.

    Do we have people in, like, South America? What would 13 mil. buy you there? Couldn’t people like Asprilla, Guti (if he doesn’t hate us), etc. be recruited? Why is the scouting system so secret? Who and how many are on the payroll? How does Carr spot his ‘gems’ (quotes)

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Dec 29, 2015 at 8:46 AM

    Comment #7

    Lesh,
    You shouldn’t joke! Kinnear is joint 10th with Paddy Power to be our next manager at 20/1. Carver comes in with a lowly 33/1….

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Dec 29, 2015 at 8:47 AM

    Comment #8

    Does Carr do the scouting in this Country ?

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  • Ron Knee

    Dec 29, 2015 at 8:48 AM

    Comment #9

    TS

    I forgive you!

    Lilongwe

    Carr is Ashley’s football guru, that much is obvious. But to what extent he can influence Ashley’s transfer policy is another matter.

    Was Carr instrumental in choosing McClaren? A black mark against him if he was.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Dec 29, 2015 at 8:50 AM

    Comment #10

    Cyprus/Sage,
    When Kinnear was in his second stint he wanted to strengthen our almost non existent scouting presence in the UK. He wanted Mick Harford to oversee it. Harford never came, so I don’t know what happened after that.

    Llambias always talked up the development of our scouting network in South America. Again, given the lack of credible links to players there, I’d guess very little was actually done. If it was we should be all over Marimon of Once Caldas like a rash!

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  • Ron Knee

    Dec 29, 2015 at 8:50 AM

    Comment #11

    Morning jesper!

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  • Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    Dec 29, 2015 at 8:54 AM

    Comment #12

    Eddie Howe is looking to add four or five new faces to ensure his squad can withstand any more injuries and stay in the Premier League. They have agreed a deal to sign Juan Iturbe from Roma and have discussed offers for Jonathan de Guzman and Carlo Zuniga from Napoli plus Leeds right back Sam Byram.

    News paper rumours but it would not surprise me if Bournemouth are looking to get this quality in early which means we are never catching them

    Its between us and Norwich for the last place

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  • cyprus

    Dec 29, 2015 at 8:55 AM

    Comment #13

    Lil,
    from what you say, JFK Llambias in 🙂

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Dec 29, 2015 at 8:56 AM

    Comment #14

    LCBP,
    I will look forward to seeing how Iturbe gets on. He was highly rated but has really struggled to have an impact in the last year or two.

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  • Jib

    Dec 29, 2015 at 9:01 AM

    Comment #15

    There comes a point where optimism and teeth gritting “chins up lads wer’e British for God’s sake” is no longer helpful.

    This is Leicester’s remarkable last season turnaround which should serve as inspiration for us all.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014%E2%80%9315_Leicester_City_F.C._season

    There are a few salient points
    1 There was no quick fix in the Winter window
    2 What was significant in the WW was the loan of Robert Huth.
    3 Outfield the leadership and goals of Ulloa was crucial.
    4 In the WW they only brought in a few players but sent loads out on loan!!??
    and still kept on losing in Jan Feb Mar
    5 From April 1st until seasons end they only lost one game
    6 They stuck with the manager

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  • nut meg

    Dec 29, 2015 at 9:02 AM

    Comment #16

    Ron
    Carr is supposed to have been friends with SM for a long time.I doubt if Charnley or Ashley had heard of him let alone chose him.We’ll see just how good a friend he is next month! So if he walks will Charnley be looking for a new head coach AND a new board member or will the new guy multi task?

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  • nufcursed

    Dec 29, 2015 at 9:10 AM

    Comment #17

    just like anyone else in this club, steve’s full of sht!
    we’ve got exactly what we deserved in the last three games..
    with such a negative approach you cannot expect to win games!
    we’ll lose the next two as well so if he’s still our coach by then, it shows how much trouble this club is in..
    maybe championship will be a good thing

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  • Ron Knee

    Dec 29, 2015 at 9:12 AM

    Comment #18

    nut meg

    Whether McClaren stays or goes is likely to depend on what players (if any) are brought in.

    If the board fail to recruit the players he wants he has a perfect excuse for quitting (and preserving what remains of his reputation).

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  • Transfer Sage

    Dec 29, 2015 at 9:12 AM

    Comment #19

    Jib

    I agree on sticking with the manager if you believe he is the right man and can turn it around. I personally don’t think McClaren is that man and keeping with him is just blind faith in my opinion, although others have their own views on him.

    Also agree on a player like Huth, somebody with league experience, ability and authority. I’d personally like to see us take a punt on Ashley Williams from Swansea, but with his age I doubt we would. Could still get a good 3 years from him.

    Lilongwe

    I don’t think scouting in South America is a great idea, well not on a large scale. They have difficulty getting work permits over hear unless they have a good few international caps, so it’s sometimes a bit of a waste of resources.

    What we need is to scout thoroughly through the lower leagues here, looking for quality where we can. We also need to look to countries like Spain, Germany and Eastern Europe as well. They tend to produce players best suited to the premier league.

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  • davetoon

    Dec 29, 2015 at 9:18 AM

    Comment #20

    On paper players like Wijnaldum and deJong should be decent for the premier league. It feels like they get all the creativity and joy for the game sucked out of them before their first game.
    It makes me wonder who can come in Jan and make a difference. Maybe offer big money short term contracts to some gritty older players if the plan is to keep it tight and nick one on the counter

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  • cyprus

    Dec 29, 2015 at 9:19 AM

    Comment #21

    TS,
    Most people want Ashley out, you want another one in?

    Cursed,
    you are right that we got what we deserved, but fortuity plays its part, always. They scored with 5 seconds to spare. We haven’t been awarded a pen in like 3 years. Why wasn’t Mitro’s given?

    It’s our fault, I know, but Darlow comes on in the last minute and he’s more scared than that other poor young kid…

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  • jon.c

    Dec 29, 2015 at 9:21 AM

    Comment #22

    Dos S Mc believe in fairy tales we don’t so on your bike to the land of noddy

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  • Transfer Sage

    Dec 29, 2015 at 9:21 AM

    Comment #23

    Davetoon

    That’s why I’d go for Williams at Swansea, he’s 31 but even for 8-10 mil he could be good for 3 years which will help us bring unproven lads like Mbemba into the team much easier.

    I’d like to see us bid for George Friends from Boro, I think he is a good player. Byram from Leeds is a good right back too, could come in and push Janmaat for a spot whilst improving.

    If we can’t buy a forward I’d be tempted to bring Arma back into the side and give him some game time. I think his pace could really help us up top.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Dec 29, 2015 at 9:22 AM

    Comment #24

    Cyprus

    The more Ashley’s the better haha….or we could do a sap, Mike for Willaims?

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  • Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    Dec 29, 2015 at 9:23 AM

    Comment #25

    @Jib

    Leicester were actually dominating teams and just not getting the results all season before they went on the winning run! Signing Huth was a stroke of genius which steadied the ship we should have been all over signing him last season as he only cost 3 million !!

    We are not dominating teams we are getting bullied and outnumbered in midfield in every game while playing the same formation

    West Brom are woeful but even Pulis sent his team out to attack our right hand side for the whole game because he knew we would be exposed !! How can ordinary fans see it but Mclaren cant??!

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  • Transfer Sage

    Dec 29, 2015 at 9:24 AM

    Comment #26

    Swap

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  • Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    Dec 29, 2015 at 9:25 AM

    Comment #27

    Also playing with no left winger against Arsenal will be suicide

    Bellerin and Walcott against Dummett for the whole game does not bear thinking about

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Dec 29, 2015 at 9:25 AM

    Comment #28

    Morning Ron…so not even this lackluster 2015 puts pressure on Charnley?

    …and McClaren like Pardew before him can underperform as much as he likes with no consequences what so ever. Splendid 😉

    2016 here we come!

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  • Ron Knee

    Dec 29, 2015 at 9:25 AM

    Comment #29

    LCBP

    Hence my question earlier – Are Simpson and Cathro equally blind?

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  • Ron Knee

    Dec 29, 2015 at 9:26 AM

    Comment #30

    jesper

    Welcome to the wonderful world of Ashley’s Newcastle!

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  • Transfer Sage

    Dec 29, 2015 at 9:28 AM

    Comment #31

    Jesper

    I think we all know those two you mention should be under pressure.

    The problem is that Ashley doesn’t appear to care, he seems to let people plod along and under perform year after year.

    Unless Ashley changes his approach and removes those and actually hires experienced people to run the club in a professional manner then we can’t expect much to change….even though we all know it should.

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  • spitfire_

    Dec 29, 2015 at 9:31 AM

    Comment #32

    “We have to continue with the attitude and character we are showing at the present moment. You are just hoping that fortune will turn around”

    According to this, the problem isn’t in our display, it’s in the fortune… Now how deluded is this?

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  • Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    Dec 29, 2015 at 9:33 AM

    Comment #33

    @Ron Knee

    Well its funny but Cathro looks really uninterested whenever I watch the game literally no movement from him off the bench recently

    He is probably regretting the decision to leave Valencia to come to our shower of a club !!!

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  • spitfire_

    Dec 29, 2015 at 9:33 AM

    Comment #34

    Oh yeah, and also before the season someone between Charnley and McClaren mention, that we will be making our own luck… There it is.

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  • hibbitt

    Dec 29, 2015 at 9:39 AM

    Comment #35

    sage…… other then go down that will be the only change

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  • Sazzer

    Dec 29, 2015 at 9:39 AM

    Comment #36

    There’s enough ability and quality in there. So onward we go. You are just hoping that fortune will turn around.

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  • Ron Knee

    Dec 29, 2015 at 9:39 AM

    Comment #37

    LCBP

    Perhaps he’s just horror-struck – like the rest of us!

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  • Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    Dec 29, 2015 at 9:40 AM

    Comment #38

    The best bet for the club to stay up is to go for some proven premiership players Sky Sports pundits yesterday where saying they think Steven Naismith is to be allowed to go on loan from Everton in my opinion he would be a great player for us to get as he has pace , battles for everything , can score goals and plays a number of positions

    Would not mind seeing us sign :

    Davies from Spurs to solve the left back issue
    Remy from Chelsea (probably on loan again)
    Naismith from Everton
    Shelvey from Swansea
    Carillo as a cheap foreign player for some depth

    Would also like another centre back as well but not sure who we can get !

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Dec 29, 2015 at 9:40 AM

    Comment #39

    Ron/TS…I am even sure with Ashley’s obvious lack of knowledge that he’s being fed viable info by the likes of Charnley, Carr or even McClaren!

    …there’s no sane explanation ad to why Ashley would want to run Newcastle like this. For all the madness that is Mike Ashley I just don’t get this.

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  • The next Mike Williamson

    Dec 29, 2015 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #40

    @Transfer sage

    I would play (or at least try) the same team you suggested, although maybe Perez on left as he played well there last season. And if McClaren wants to keep Colback in team because he’s a senior pro then I’d play him left back (although I do think Dummet gives us a bit ariel ability we’re lacking throughout the rest of the team)

    @jib

    I appreciate Pearson got them on the winning run so Ranieri can’t take all the plaudits. The remarkable thing is not Leicester’s scouts finding Vardy and Mahrez because the last two seasons Mahrez was nothing special (even in the Championship) and Vardy was on a 6 month goal drought. So this shows that a change of manager and system can turn an average player into a world beater. A good example is Ighalo who was a complete failure in Spain. His goal record is worse than Jozy Altidore’s, and he wasn’t particularly amazing in championship. Now under Flores he’s unstoppable. Makes you wonder how our players would perform under a good modern manager. Especially Ben Arfa & Cabella, maybe even Mitrovic. Imagine he actually got some service.

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