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Newcastle Were Much Better Off In Relegation Season Than Now

6:49 am, Tuesday, December 29th, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 11 Comments

Newcastle have come to the end of what has been a disastrous year for the club and we are now halfway through the season and have amassed a meager 17 points and four wins this season so far and our 3rd bottom of the league after picking up only one point from the final three games of 2015.

If we continue with the same record in the second half of the season we will get 34 points – which is exactly what we got in our relegation season.

If that happens we will be relegated for the second time from the Premier League.


Steve McClaren hasn´t done much better than John Carver

John Carver was appointed by Lee Charnley to  be the interim manager for the last 19 games of last season after Alan Pardew left, and he produced only 13 points and we were almost relegated.

Steve McClaren was appointed days after he was fired from Championship club Derby County and hasn´t done much better than Carver – 4 points better to be exact.

Here´s our record so far this season and it´s not good, especially with goals conceded and goals scored – and our goal difference is terrible at -15 the third worst in the league.

Premier LeaguePlayed WonDrawnLostGFGAGDPoints

At this time in our relegation season we were 5 points better off with 22 points and we were 12th in the league.

However we gained a meager 12 points in the second half of  that 2008-2009 season and in the final 12 games we won only one and drew three for just 6 points – so we cratered at the end.

So things are not that bad yet – and we are still only 3 points behind Chelsea in 14th place.

What does look like being true is that it will take more than 35 points this season to stay up – so we have to somehow turn this around and quickly too if we are to survive.

But it seems the lack of ambition from the top and the lack of consistent investment in the squad is coming back to haunt us big time.

You cannot put everything right with one huige transfer window last summer – and we are quickly finding that out.

The real lack of leadership from the top of the club – currently Lee Charnley-  (with some help from Mike Ashley) is the real reason we have cratered this year with only seven wins and 30 points from all our 38 Premier League games.

It’s all very depressing.

Comments welcome.

Tags: Coaching · Financials · Newcastle News · Premier League

11 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Ron Knee // Dec 29, 2015 at 6:52 AM



    I think you’ve answered your own questions! McClaren’s job is quite safe – for as long as he wants it.

    On past form we should have no confidence that they’ll appoint a good manager. So it’s going to be up to McClaren to find a way to get the best out of his dysfunctional squad.

  • 2 bladeuser // Dec 29, 2015 at 6:54 AM

    QUOTE from the person some of you think is still the right man
    I will leave that for SMAC fans to ponder
    SHEEP Out

  • 3 Lilongwe Geordie // Dec 29, 2015 at 7:00 AM

    It will be interesting to see what January brings. I’d imagine that three window plan is already crumpled up next to the 5 year plan in the bin. There won’t be many good players jumping at the opportunity to join a club in the relegation zone and getting outplayed constantly. Especially when you factor in that the club don’t like to overpay in wages or fees.

  • 4 Lilongwe Geordie // Dec 29, 2015 at 7:05 AM

    Make our own luck? I thought that was what we did last summer? I’m sure I remember someone at the club telling us that. McClaren and an underwhelming later here we are again.

    If we were guaranteed a better calibre of coach/manager to come in to the club then I’d agree, unfortunately I just don’t see it.

  • 5 Lilongwe Geordie // Dec 29, 2015 at 7:06 AM

    *underwhelming window later

  • 6 Ron Knee // Dec 29, 2015 at 7:09 AM


    I don’t expect to see a raft of star players queuing up to join our doomed club!

    Since Ashley took over NUFC has become a club in name only.

    If the club had shown any normal ambition, Cabaye, for example, would probably be still playing for us now.

  • 7 ilovetoon8788 // Dec 29, 2015 at 7:09 AM

    Mclaren after latest defeat – “we are going places with our consistency”

    Is that guy for real? With this level of consistent shi* the only place we are going is to the championship.

    We’ve given half a season and I’ve seen nothing from mclaren to suggest he’s a good manager capable of getting us out of this barren form destined for doom.

  • 8 The next Mike Williamson // Dec 29, 2015 at 7:09 AM

    4 points more than Carver and Carver had key injuries and £50,000,000 less worth of players. I’d say he’s done worse than Carver when you take that into consideration.

  • 9 juan // Dec 29, 2015 at 7:12 AM

    We had a better team when we got relegated. You look at these players now they’re very poor. Colo dummett Anita colback mitrovic would struggle to get in many other premier league sides. As for the manager. Joke his excuses just keep coming. Judge me after 10 games We’ve give you nearly double that and ya still rubbish.
    Everyone keeps thinking we gonna get out of this dog fight? Not with what we’ve seen on the pitch. Championship here we come.

  • 10 nut meg // Dec 29, 2015 at 7:18 AM

    Can’t see the the club sacking SM going by they’re recent history.But,if the pressure gets too much for him he could well walk forcing the board into a decision that they’re not equipped to make.Effort will only take us so far,we cannot defend all game every game in our own third of the pitch and yet that is our game plan.Inviting crosses into our box with one of the smallest defences in the PL is pretty dumb imho. I’m waiting for the words to come out from the club….it’s business as usual!

  • 11 Lilongwe Geordie // Dec 29, 2015 at 7:26 AM

    nut meg,
    McClaren has often walked, but this is his last job in football if he walks I reckon, so he will hang on as long as he can I think. Still, if he did walk, the board wouldn’t be prepared and will take their time sifting through the 80+ applicants probably allowing Simpson to continue leading the club into oblivion.

    I still think the squad has enough to play its way out of trouble, but McClaren really has to ditch his current style and team selection to maximise our threat going forward.

    Any idiot should be able to see that a team playing 4 centre halves across their defence, like West Brom do, will be more than happy if you don’t play with width and and don’t stretch the game. We didn’t bring on a player to stretch the game until the 85th minute, having taken off the other player who can stretch the game in Perez for another player who helps narrow the game in De Jong.

    Gini doesn’t work on the left. Our attacks breakdown there and we rarely create anything from there because of it. He cuts in far too often, and lacks any real confidence on his left foot so rarely uses it.

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