This Person Completely Out Of His Depth At Newcastle

Newcastle have been woefully led over the last few years and if you look at what´s happened to the club since Lee Charnley was appointed by Mike Ashley as the top executive in early April last year it´s not good.

We lost seven of the last eight games in 2013-2104 – had 4 points from the first seven games last season but then recovered quite well – before Alan Pardew left us suddenly.

Alan was allowed to leave with no experienced replacement being available, and that decision ended up  plunging Newcastle into serious trouble and we only just survived.

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Lee Charnley – Managing Director – out of his depth

After that terrible appointment Lee Charnley made on John Carver, he then came up with another strange appointment  in Steve McClaren, who had only just been fired from Championship club Derby County.

Steve now has Newcastle 3rd bottom of the league with just 17 points  in 19 games.

We really do hope McClaren can turn things around and soon –  but if he cannot or doesn´t then a good question to ask the Managing Director is what was his logic in appointing Steve McClaren to the position when better managers were available.

Leicester City, Watford and West Ham are three Premier League clubs who appointed new managers in the summer and they are doing just fine.

Here´s Lee Charnley´s Newcastle record since he took over on April 7th, 2104.


January will become a really big month for Newcastle – maybe the biggest January transfer window for many years – but it´s Mike Ashley who will need to come in and make some really big decisions on how much money will be spent.

And if results don´t improve and a new manager is to be brought in then it will not be Charnley´s decision but that of the owner.

We are willing to believe that football is different from most other businesses in the real world, but executives at the top still have to be accountable for the decisions they make and the results they get – based on those decisions.

That´s how things work and executives get the big bucks based on that high level of responsibility.

At the moment Lee Charnley seems completely out of his depth as Newcastle´s top executive.

A good question for Mike Ashley is where is the executive experience and the football knowledge that made Lee a suitable candidate for this position?

Kevin Keegan has already let it be known in public that Lee has very little football knowledge and he knows Lee from when Kevin was manager back in 2008.

Keegan told beIN Sports earlier this month that Lee could write all he knows about football on a stamp and there would still be room left over.

Lee is supposed to be running the club for Mike Ashley and the major responsibility is therefore his for the mess Newcastle have got themselves into this year – based on his poor decisions.

Comments welcome.

25 comments so far

  • nut meg

    Dec 29, 2015 at 7:23 AM

    Comment #1

    Can’t see the the club sacking SM going by they’re recent history.But,if the pressure gets too much for him he could well walk forcing the board into a decision that they’re not equipped to make.Effort will only take us so far,we cannot defend all game every game in our own third of the pitch and yet that is our game plan.Inviting crosses into our box with one of the smallest defences in the PL is pretty dumb imho. I’m waiting for the words to come out from the club….it’s business as usual!

  • Ron Knee

    Dec 29, 2015 at 7:28 AM

    Comment #2

    nut meg

    The club is a catastrophe from top to bottom. We have no competent people to take charge of things!

    As you say, McClaren could decide to quit. Then what?

  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Dec 29, 2015 at 7:29 AM

    Comment #3

    Lilongwe Geordie // Dec 29, 2015 at 7:26 AM

    nut meg,
    McClaren has often walked, but this is his last job in football if he walks I reckon, so he will hang on as long as he can I think. Still, if he did walk, the board wouldn’t be prepared and will take their time sifting through the 80+ applicants probably allowing Simpson to continue leading the club into oblivion.

    I still think the squad has enough to play its way out of trouble, but McClaren really has to ditch his current style and team selection to maximise our threat going forward.

    Any idiot should be able to see that a team playing 4 centre halves across their defence, like West Brom do, will be more than happy if you don’t play with width and and don’t stretch the game. We didn’t bring on a player to stretch the game until the 85th minute, having taken off the other player who can stretch the game in Perez for another player who helps narrow the game in De Jong.

    Gini doesn’t work on the left. Our attacks breakdown there and we rarely create anything from there because of it. He cuts in far too often, and lacks any real confidence on his left foot so rarely uses it.

  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Dec 29, 2015 at 7:33 AM

    Comment #4

    Thauvin should have been the change made when Anita went off. Gini moved centrally. But know, we stick defensive against a team that rarely score through counter attacking and have not dominated possession in a single match this season, prior to yesterday.

  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Dec 29, 2015 at 7:34 AM

    Comment #5

    *But no…. Not sure what is wrong with me today!

  • Ron Knee

    Dec 29, 2015 at 7:46 AM

    Comment #6


    McClaren looked on the verge of quitting before we got those good results against Liverpool and Spurs.

    It’ll be interesting to see if the club try to recruit the players he wants.

  • Transfer Sage

    Dec 29, 2015 at 7:47 AM

    Comment #7


    The fact perez takes our corners surely suggests that he is the best crosser of the ball in the side (even if only from dead balls) so I’d try a 4-3-3 with Perez out wide right and sissoko from the left (I think he can stand a ball up ok which should work for mitro).

    I’d then have De Jong behind the front three to play the cute little passes through the gaps and have anita (colback if injured) and Gini a bit deeper.

    I think Gini is capable of being a box to box player and stuck in the middle he might be able to feed the ball out wide or into De Jong a bit better.

    Just a though…at least it is trying something different.

  • Transfer Sage

    Dec 29, 2015 at 7:49 AM

    Comment #8


    AS you say though, doesn’t look like McClaren will get the sack, just not the done thing by Ashley.

    So for the sake of the club hopefully they do get him the type of players he wants and at least we can then judge him with the tools to suit his style.

  • Ron Knee

    Dec 29, 2015 at 7:50 AM

    Comment #9


    We’re stuck with McClaren so let’s hope he sees the light! Does he talk to Simpson and Cathro?

  • nut meg

    Dec 29, 2015 at 7:53 AM

    Comment #10

    I did mention last night about SM bringing Thauvan on for the last few minutes again. I just don’t understand why he would do it,that’s what you would do to kill time, not when you need a goal! I really fear the worst now,still lots of points to play for but….we won’t get them by tactics like we’re seeing just now.

  • hibbitt

    Dec 29, 2015 at 8:00 AM

    Comment #11

    if Mc is sacked or more likely he walks my big worry is who this set of clowns bring in ….no faith in this lot to be prepared ……… don’t think carver has a job yet

  • The overrated Frenchman

    Dec 29, 2015 at 8:03 AM

    Comment #12

    The frightening thing is that McClaren doesn’t seem to think anything is wrong. Denial as I call it. The “effort” is there, “consistency is coming”. The man is deluded. There is not one shred of evidence to suggest we will be a better team in the second half of the season the way things are going. But you wouldn’t know it as McClaren smirks his way through yet another banal, platitude ridden post-match press interview. Don’t ask me who should replace him. I don’t care. I think we are forked anyway, but death by degrees at the hands of this smarmy son of a motherless goat would be particularly hard to bear.

  • lesh

    Dec 29, 2015 at 8:05 AM

    Comment #13

    Maybe a Charnley Out campaign might succeed?

    After all, Ashley apparently distanced himself from the running of the Club when he appointed the so-called Board with Charnley in charge.

    Charnley’s a perfect scapegoat for Ashley and thus more vulnerable to fan attention than Ashley. Furthermore,the pressure’s not aimed directly at McClaren or whoever’s HC.

    Charnley’s the one to target but if he goes, who takes over? Llambias!

    Talk about Catch 22

  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Dec 29, 2015 at 8:06 AM

    Comment #14

    I think we are crying out for a 433 with the players we have. Not sure it would be Sissoko on the left for me, I’d like to see Thauvin given a chance there, with Perez on the right. Aaron’s and Arma could both seamlessly fit into that formation as well.

    Gini has to be more central, but needs to be advanced enough to not negate his goalscoring potential. He Sissoko and De Jong would be fighting it out for 2 spots, with Anita, Colback and Tiote fighting for the other I guess. The midfield still looks like it needs serious work though…

  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Dec 29, 2015 at 8:10 AM

    Comment #15

    relegation most likely in the position we are in:
    Must win at least
    6 games and draw 3 out of 19
    or 7 games which would give us 38 points and a fighting chance
    So must beat
    West Ham
    West Brom
    Swansea and Palace at home

    cannot see us getting a point against CITY – not got a point since we came up
    and Tottenham

    might get something against Man Utd

    pick up a point against Stoke, Norwich, and maybe a win at Villa

    Get nowt against Arsenal
    Watford – never get nowt there
    Southampton not won a point at St. Mary’s
    and Liverpool

    OH help!!!!

  • lesh

    Dec 29, 2015 at 8:10 AM

    Comment #16


    You can bet your boots that any HC applicants’ll include Carver who’ll claim he’s better equipped to take the job after learning from his previous mistakes.

    The Club’s good at reviewing and learning from mistakes… innit!

    What a dogs breakfast.

  • The overrated Frenchman

    Dec 29, 2015 at 8:14 AM

    Comment #17

    Of course Charnley should go – he should have gone at the end of last season. But now it’s too late. Realistically you can’t expect a new chief executive to come in and effectively make wholesale changes half way through the season. At least I don’t think so. And wholesale changes are what’s required, I don’t think anyone would dispute that. Sack McClaren now, give us a chance, and get rid Charnley, Carr and company at the end if the season. Turn over a new leaf. If Ashley reads this, I’m sure that will make sense to him and we’ll see it happen.

  • NoahJ

    Dec 29, 2015 at 9:43 AM

    Comment #18

    May be alone in saying this, but I consider Mclaren a much bigger problem than charnley. By the end of the summer transfer window, though we didn’t sign Austin, or another top centre half, most newcastle fans would have been happy with the £50m outlay. this was Charnley’s brief.

    in my eyes, we have a decent squad that is completely demotivated, constantly played out of position, and is reactive (if we’re lucky) rather than trying to win the game from the off. these, fundamentally, are aspects of managerial responsibility, for which mclaren needs to accept that he has failed on.

    this is summed up perfectly by his ridiculous: “judge me after 10 games; no judge me after 12 games; judge me after January: judge me at the end of the season”

    he’s a failure, and we will be relegated with him.

  • posada

    Dec 29, 2015 at 9:45 AM

    Comment #19

    Someone mentioned corner takers.
    We have 20 odd professionals at the club on big money. Not one of them can take a decent corner. It’s been like that for years.
    I used to run a team with some mates. Half decent Sunday morning standard.
    We had players and played against players regularly who could take a far better corner than anybody presently on the books of NUFC.
    Seriously, no exaggeration.

  • posada

    Dec 29, 2015 at 9:49 AM

    Comment #20

    We have some decent players but we can’t make them into a team.
    Slow at the back so must sit deep.
    No pace in attack so teams can push up and not be worried about anyone getting in behind.
    Result, we play most of the game in our half of the pitch.

  • NoahJ

    Dec 29, 2015 at 10:19 AM

    Comment #21


    My point exactly- if we have decent players that cannot be made into a team, then that is fundamentally a managerial failure (not entirely to blame, but in my view, is the biggest culprit).

    I would have some sympathy with him if he played players in their correct position and that still didn’t work. everyone in the world can see wiji plays best in the middle; putting thauvin on for 3 minutes a game and then complaining that he’s still not developing quick enough. don’t even get me started on the insistence that colback and anita are apparently our best centre midfield partnership. … these are all managerial decisions, for which mclaren is culpable.

    the thing which really worries me is, man for man, we have the best squad than anyone around us (except chelsea!), and yet we are being outcompeted by the likes of norwich and bournemouth.

    it’s time for a change. and, this needs to happen before january so that a new manager can be backed in the transfer window

  • isleofmanman

    Dec 29, 2015 at 1:25 PM

    Comment #22

    The Bag Carrier has no senior management credentials whatsoever – never mind what’s required for the tenth best supported football club IN EUROPE

    For years he hung around like a bad small and survived. He’s only there today because he’s deep inside Big Daddy’s pocket

    And judging by the lard he’s put on, he’d be better off avoiding his corporate hospitality gigs in favour of problem solving technique tuition


  • widowmagandapoke

    Dec 29, 2015 at 3:52 PM

    Comment #23

    Frenchman, I can’ t entirely agree. A knowledgable MD could make a change. Charnley has never been at the races. I can’t understand why Ashley hasn’t spotted his ineptitude months (if not seasons) ago.

  • mactoon

    Dec 29, 2015 at 5:24 PM

    Comment #24

    “it´s Mike Ashley who will need to come in and make some really big decisions on how much money will be spent.”

    What difference does it make HOW MUCH money is available to be spent when the ‘football board’ go and spend it on the wrong players???

  • ash1001

    Dec 30, 2015 at 6:16 AM

    Comment #25

    For once I totally agree with ED.
    Having spent 2 years on the Fans Forum at NUFC and seen Charnley in action I can honestly say I have no confidence what so ever in this mans ability to run a football club the size of Newcastle in a positive way, (in fact I would say any football club), that includes the day to day stuff, recruitment of both football management staff as well as overseeing the recruitment of players, those underneath him in the non footballing side of things at the club just follow him blindly (frightened of their jobs I would think).
    The financial director (John Irving) left for the Airport and I do not think he has been replaced so presume Charnley is overseeing that job as well now.
    its only an opinion but I honestly think at the present time if the club got rid of McLaren, Charnley would not have a clue which way to turn, so cannot see that happening. As for Carr and Moncur well the least said the better but have to say Bob Moncur has really gone down in my estimation – he does not seem to have a voice, just someone to roll out on match days.
    Things have to change but only Ashley can make that happen but will he – after all he pulled the plug on a new Training Centre and to anyone that has not been to Benton its a disgrace when compared with the likes of Arsenal, Chelsea Sunderland etc. hence possibly so many Hamstring injuries (Top of the league table again 3rd year running).
    So step up to the plate Mr Ashley and sort it.


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