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Shearer – Newcastle In Trouble And Third Bottom For A Reason

8:50 am, Wednesday, December 30th, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 68 Comments

Like any good football pundit Alan Shearer tends to tell it like it is,  and when talking about Newcastle United on Monday night’s Match of the Day he didn’t pull his punches about his home town club.

Newcastle didn’t play particularly well and we lost to West Brom who won their first game in six games and so are now 6 points above Newcastle.

Alan has said Newcastle are third bottom of the league for a reason – and we are not playing well whatever Steve McClaren keeps saying at the end of the recent games.

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Alan Shearer – Newcastle 3rd bottom for a reason

Here’s some of what Alan said on Match of The Day when talking about Jonny Evans having blatantly brought down Mitrovic in the penalty area in the second half but no penalty was awarded:

“It was a definite penalty, Jonny Evans on Mitrovic, he is holding him and he pulls him back. A clear penalty, I don’t think there is any doubt about that.

“Newcastle haven’t had a penalty for over a year now, Boxing Day I think.”

“What Steve McClaren says about Newcastle…he can’t keep on saying that they are playing well – they’re not playing particularly well. They are third bottom for a reason.”

“Things have to improve, they spent a lot of money and they are in trouble – a relegation fight.”

Steve McClaren is obviously trying to put the (poor) results in the best light possible by intimating Newcastle are simply unlucky and things will get better soon.

We should have had a penalty and we missed chances and all that good stuff.

But those are simply the reasons being talked about – because we don’t have the results.

You either talk about the results – or the reasons you don’t have the results – it’s really that simple.

When you keep having poor results all you can do is talk about the reasons and after a while it all becomes a little boring.

Comments welcome.



Tags: Coaching · Management · Newcastle News · Prediction · Premier League




68 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Tsunki // Dec 30, 2015 at 8:52 AM

    Ashley Out!

  • 2 Tsunki // Dec 30, 2015 at 8:52 AM

    Out, I Say!

  • 3 cyprus // Dec 30, 2015 at 8:53 AM

    Optimistic message alert, move on if you are squeamish.

    I’ve seen us play well against quite a few teams this season, meaning that we can. We’ve beaten the best, so we can compete. NO result is assured this season, meaning we could start picking up points.

    Keep the faith. There’s no choice.

  • 4 Tsunki // Dec 30, 2015 at 8:54 AM

    We haven’t had a penalty for a year, some really bad decisions against in that time, but let’s face facts here, we don’t exactly threaten defences that much do we?

  • 5 Tsunki // Dec 30, 2015 at 8:56 AM

    Look out for a series of ‘ Head in hands depths of despair Mclaren’ pics.

  • 6 lesh // Dec 30, 2015 at 8:57 AM

    Cyprus

    Shut up man! You’re optimism’s uncalled for…. We’re doomed, doomed a tell ya.

  • 7 Ron Knee // Dec 30, 2015 at 8:59 AM

    Tsunki

    “Now we have 8 pairs of worn out shoes and four serviceable ones, not really any decent ones. Serves us right for being cheapskates.”

    Reminds me of the old Lone Ranger/Tonto joke: “What do you mean ‘us’?” I.e., It’s our incompetent board, not the supporters, who’ve dropped us in it.

  • 8 Tsunki // Dec 30, 2015 at 9:01 AM

    “Doesn’t it hurt?”
    “Only when I laugh, old man. Only when I laugh”

  • 9 Jib // Dec 30, 2015 at 9:07 AM

    The Guardian “Rumour Mill” is always interesting
    http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/dec/30/football-transfer-rumours-arsenal-edinson-cavani-psg-47m

  • 10 Jib // Dec 30, 2015 at 9:09 AM

    Reminds me of the old Lone Ranger/Tonto joke: “What do you mean ‘us’white man?”

  • 11 Rotonda heights // Dec 30, 2015 at 9:11 AM

    The Chile manager is now available. Swansea were looking at him. Teaboy charnley has sadly probably never heard of him, but what a shot in the arm he would be.

    We’re on the road to nowhere with SM and his ultra negative long ball football makes CP look like Brazil!!

  • 12 Jib // Dec 30, 2015 at 9:12 AM

    More rumours
    Momentum is gathering for the usual Winter nonsense.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/35195789

  • 13 Jib // Dec 30, 2015 at 9:21 AM

    It has even made it to Spain (banquillo is Spanish for bench)
    http://www.defensacentral.com/real_madrid/136277-pardew-candidato-al-banquillo-del-real-madrid-defensa-central/

  • 14 Jib // Dec 30, 2015 at 9:37 AM

    The rumour mill is goimg into overdrive.

    We are linked with the 25 year old captain of Girondins (Bordeaux) Henri Saivet a winger.

    Southampton want him in Summer and we are going to hijack him 6 months early

    http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actualites/Henri-saivet-des-contacts-en-premier-league/620256

  • 15 SPRINGY // Dec 30, 2015 at 9:47 AM

    morning all
    koulibaly’s agent has said hes happy in napoli and not looking for a move to newcastle apparently…… oh what a surprise!lol

  • 16 optimistic prime // Dec 30, 2015 at 9:52 AM

    Cyprus

    I’ve seen then play well in spells also, however getting our players up for the fight is as much of a challenge as getting them over the line!

  • 17 SPRINGY // Dec 30, 2015 at 9:58 AM

    blofal mentioned a few threads back that playing a 4-3-3 maybe more beneficial to the players we have and i tend to agree with him and his reasonable argument for this… but my team would be with the players available would be
    ——————————–elliot————————————
    janmaat————-mbemba——-colo—————–mbabu
    ——gini———————tiote———————colback—-
    sissoko———————–mitro———————–thauvin
    worth a look at anyways

  • 18 SPRINGY // Dec 30, 2015 at 10:04 AM

    my thinking is, if they are trying to sign this russian lad time may be be up for SDJ unfortunately….wonder if they’ve had an offer…..no rumours or anything just started thinking that with him been dropped the last couple games(keeping him fit) and then we are linked to another playmaker…..like a say just a thought

  • 19 NoahJ // Dec 30, 2015 at 10:08 AM

    Cyprus

    Playing well has somehow become an ‘exceeds expectation’ criteria these days, which is stupid because it implies that the norm is to play ok (that’s not good enough!).
    It also annoys me when people, including mclaren, say “we played well in the second half” etc… trying to put a positive spin on the fact that we were actually dire in the first half

    We play villa away the game before the last game of the season. If we do get relegated, I’m praying it’s not going to be there again

  • 20 SPRINGY // Dec 30, 2015 at 10:13 AM

    noah j
    this “positive spin” as you call it i like to call flanel….its rubbish to try and distract to paper over the cracks

  • 21 Jib // Dec 30, 2015 at 10:14 AM

    SPRINGY
    With those players it’s more of a Terry Venables type floating Christmas tree !
    4-2-3-1
    With GIni in the middle behind Big Al
    It could work very well

  • 22 terencelim // Dec 30, 2015 at 10:20 AM

    Ashley and his ass lickers OUT!

  • 23 SPRINGY // Dec 30, 2015 at 10:22 AM

    jib
    the shape of team i put up is partly because…
    1)gini on left isnt working and is leaving us open all the time
    2)gini had a great season playing a similar position for PSV
    3)looks a bit more balnced.
    im no manager,just my thoughts and something i’d like to see tried,what could hurt at this stage tbo

  • 24 Thump // Dec 30, 2015 at 10:25 AM

    @Springy: Central midfielders in central midfield? What kind of madness is this?

  • 25 SPRINGY // Dec 30, 2015 at 10:26 AM

    haha thump
    shhhhhhh or i may get chased with pitch forks and torches!!!lol

  • 26 JamesToon // Dec 30, 2015 at 10:33 AM

    I’d play this against Arsenal:
    4-2-3-1
    Elliot
    Janmaat-Mbemba-Coloccini-Mbabu
    Wijnaldum-Tiote
    Thauvin-Sissoko-Perez
    Mitrovic

  • 27 jayphoto // Dec 30, 2015 at 10:36 AM

    Think the thing is, we’re playing pretty poorly but the effort is high which is probably where mcClaren is finding his positives.
    We’ve got decent players but not sure mcclaren plays the right side to really attack!
    Gini and Sissoko wide narrow us alot. On the left Dummett isnt the type of full back to get up and overlap, hes an out and out defender. Because of this thauvin might be a good option left as dummett wont go past him often.
    Leadership is the big problem.
    Dejongs play has been poor but be does talk and direct on the pitch. No coincidence for me he started wins against liverpool and spurs. Perez seems more effective off the bench running at tired defenders.
    We play too defensive and too narrow which is fine but our sides strengths are more to play expansive and attacking.
    2 defensive midfielders isn’t necessary. Sissoko and gini both played central at previous clubs and would give us more attacking impetus

  • 28 lesh // Dec 30, 2015 at 10:43 AM

    NoahJ

    McClaren’s not going to publicly slam under performing players as doing so would leave his abilities as HC in question!

  • 29 Jib // Dec 30, 2015 at 10:44 AM

    I know it’s ifs and buts.
    I’m still upbeat because for the last 2 games , but for a couple of gimme goals we would be 2 points better off on the same points as Chelsea.Also if there had been no freak weather against Villa we could be on 21 points now above West Brom.
    We will start getting the rub of the green soon I’m sure

  • 30 WWSBRD // Dec 30, 2015 at 10:50 AM

    jay
    Not sure Id say de Jong has been any worse than anyone else in the team, in fact Id probably be on the side saying he has out performed Perez

    As for Sissoko and Gini playing CM both have played there for us and have been less than impressive

    Not really sure why McClaren is trying to play a formation with wingers yet wont put a winger on the pitch, the team naturally play narrow so play a formation that fits that would surely benefit everyone?

    Personally I am very disappointed with McClaren and this ‘new dawn’, looks very much the same to my eyes

  • 31 Our Toon // Dec 30, 2015 at 10:50 AM

    I have no issues with Sissoko on the right wing, he has 6 or 7 assists….creates chances from that side so why would we want to change the only real positive of our attacking play?

    Elliot
    Jan, Mbemba, Colo, Colback
    Tiote or Anita, SDJ
    Sissoko, Gini, Thauvin
    Mitro

  • 32 Our Toon // Dec 30, 2015 at 10:52 AM

    Thauvin or Aarons if the latter is ever fit

  • 33 SPRINGY // Dec 30, 2015 at 10:53 AM

    just our luck we face an inform arsenal then man utd…..if it was the other way around id fancy our chances against man utd….on the bases we seem to up our game against bigger sides and man utd are pretty poor at the min…..but as it stands we could get a whumping off arsenal that would sponge up what confidence we have and by the time we play man utd van gaal might be gone and the new manager syndrome will kick in!!lol…all ifs and buts again tho!lol

  • 34 WWSBRD // Dec 30, 2015 at 10:56 AM

    Jib
    Half a season gone and we are in the bottom 3 after picking up 1 point from 3 very winnable games and ur still upbeat…what are u upbeat about mate?

  • 35 lesh // Dec 30, 2015 at 11:02 AM

    Springy

    As Ashley said, we’ve got to make our own luck.

    They’ve done that alright and Charnley Ashley must restrict his responsibilities and take control of both the HC situation and transfers in and out – quickly.

  • 36 Blofal // Dec 30, 2015 at 11:02 AM

    Springy,

    Janmaat, Gini and Sissoko down the right is a potent attack. Our left side is just so damn weak. I agree your team could work too.

    Playing Sissoko and Thuavin as out and out wingers I think is the key. 4-4-2 is useless when you are pinned in your own half 90% of every game.

  • 37 lesh // Dec 30, 2015 at 11:03 AM

    * and Charnley must take responsibility for the mess we’re in…

  • 38 Jib // Dec 30, 2015 at 11:05 AM

    WWSBRD
    One point only from the last 3 games is true.
    However as I pointed out , that had much more to do with bad fortune (weather , goalies being poorly , or freak last second goals) than the team being poor.
    To berate a coach or a collection of players for having hard lines , is crass in the extreme.

  • 39 SPRINGY // Dec 30, 2015 at 11:10 AM

    blofal
    cheers mate, that the left is weak as water thats why i thought colback would be able to help out defending and if venutred forward might put a natural left footed cross in for mitro to attack…..gini on the left is’nt working at all tbh and its doing the lad or the left back any favours

  • 40 SPRINGY // Dec 30, 2015 at 11:12 AM

    lesh
    ya right about luck…we have to make our own….just little things like that sometimes help!lol

  • 41 nightfa11 // Dec 30, 2015 at 11:13 AM

    A lot of people say that you need to give the manager money to buy what he thinks he needs.. I do agree to some extent.. But before he earns that, he needs to show he knows what hes doing.. Mclaren doesnt.. Playing players out of position, same squad every week, 2 dmcs, etc etc..although he has a team of internationals.. He has a good squad..But Its not mclarens fault..its the mans who put him there..

    As for carr..I think hes doing a good job..every player he brought in played well in their previous club..the only player we overpayed based on his last performances was thauvin.. As for others..We cant blame him for that.. Rivi was worth 6 mio..he just wasnt mentally strong enough.. Goufrann was great when he arrived until pardew started playing him as LB, etc etc..

    The problem in my eyes are chairmans.. I understand that Ashley wants a person he trust in that position, But that person should have some football knowledge and common sense..

    Anyway..we’re signing non uk players, why cant we sign a non uk manager for a change?

  • 42 WWSBRD // Dec 30, 2015 at 11:15 AM

    Jib
    So 17 points from 19 games and -15 goal difference is acceptable to u? Bad fortune where? It rained it wasnt Carlisle level of rain mate, Garde was able to cope with it and adapted their approach but McClaren gifted it to them. Everton we were lucky to get to half time without them scoring and West Brom McClaren played the same starting 11…West Brom dont play like Everton but our tactics are identical to combat them and thats not even mentioning the tiredness issue of the players

    I do recall we were told we would be making our own luck this season

  • 43 WWSBRD // Dec 30, 2015 at 11:17 AM

    Also not sure its crass to judge a management team on its performance otherwise no management team would ever be sacked

  • 44 WWSBRD // Dec 30, 2015 at 11:18 AM

    Plus u didnt answer my question, what are u upbeat about?

  • 45 Moonraker15 // Dec 30, 2015 at 11:22 AM

    I can’t see the point in you guys suggesting different team line ups. You can shuffle the pack as much as you like but we won’t win enough games with that midfield and defence. We need reinforcements asap and I hope Charnley is of the same opinion otherwise we are going down. What is frustrating is that other teams have players lined up already; somehow I can’t see Charnley doing that. He thinks urgency means panic! Far from it. The next month is one of the biggest in our history cos if we go down we ain’t coming back!

  • 46 AK Malaysia // Dec 30, 2015 at 11:28 AM

    It has been a while since i last commented here… firstly McClaren should not have chance the first 11 of liverpool and spurs and villa games just because of that header missed by Siem de Jong… he should not tinker too much… yes, Ayoze Perez was on form.. but he is better as impact substitute .. running at opponent while fresh as defense starting to be tired.. secondly, Gini is not suppose to be a left sided midfielder … with Anita injured.. time to put Gini in the middle, partnering Colback (no tiote please…) let sissoko at right… siem de jong as AMC / Forward and Thauvin or new, proper left sided midfielder coming in during jan transfer window (Andros Townsend comes in my mind)… forward?? Mitro need 1 season to adopt.. Ayoze still young.. hence, we really need out and out striker that can score goals now.. Charlie Austin please!!

  • 47 Rotonda heights // Dec 30, 2015 at 11:29 AM

    Nightfall

    Spot on

  • 48 Munster Mag // Dec 30, 2015 at 11:30 AM

    Moonraker, I agree. For years i have said that too many guys on here have played too much Fifa. 442 was derided until we got some results with it and saw other play it, good and bad. I have seen all sorts here ….4-1-2-2-1 etc etc. Doesnt count for much if you have lazy bastards on the pitch like Sissoko and the useless Thauvin. And a transfer policy that values sell on price rather than team need. In simple terms, we need a central midfielder ( no …that is NOT Sissoko …the man cant tacle or pass consistently ) , two wingers and a striker. I will live with our crap defence if i could get guys in those positions. Shelvey, Austin and two wingers who can cross a ball and also work hard. Then sack SMC at end of season. Mind you, for those of us who look at watford and leicester , both their managers had very iffy histories but we dont research our managers. Its now looking like Pardew is better than SMC for Gods sake.

  • 49 Rotonda heights // Dec 30, 2015 at 11:32 AM

    Malaysia

    I agreed up until you said Townsend

  • 50 OneAlanShearer // Dec 30, 2015 at 11:32 AM

    ——————————–elliot————————————
    janmaat————-mbemba——-colo—————–dummett
    ———-sissoko———tiote———colback—-
    Wijnaldum ———————–mitro————–———–perez

    The team I’d use. Play our midfield 3 narrow with only sissoko and colback license to go up field. Tiote to sit.

  • 51 Moonraker15 // Dec 30, 2015 at 11:33 AM

    Jib
    We will need more than the “rub of the green” against Arsenal and Man U mate! I agree we are not in a perilous position yet, but this has been going on for a year now and it ain’t gonna improve without a load of top players coming in and we are not showing signs yet.

  • 52 Jib // Dec 30, 2015 at 11:37 AM

    WWSBRD Also not sure its crass to judge a management team on its performance otherwise no management team would ever be sacked.

    Do you have learning difficulties – warn me and I’ll cut you some slack.

    This is what I said

    To berate a coach or a collection of players for having hard lines , is crass in the extreme.

  • 53 SUTTY1978 // Dec 30, 2015 at 11:40 AM

    Every win we have had this season has been lucky, there’s not one single occasion where we have outplayed the opposition. Even Norwich had far more opportunities against us than we did against them.

  • 54 Rotonda heights // Dec 30, 2015 at 11:42 AM

    Basically only 2 managers in our relatively recent past have ever got it mostly right here and been popular long term figures, namely KK and SBR.

    That was purely because they produced fast free flowing exciting to watch, attacking football.

    Conversely people hated the dour styles of Charlton, Dalglish, Souness, Allardyce and AP.

    Anyone going in as manager at NUFC who knew anything of our history would know that the fans want to see good entertaining football, even if, as per, we don’t win anything.

    The last procession of managers we have suffered under have largely seen us play with fear.

    Whilst it may be too simplistic to say to SM – go alter the style, surely the denial SM is displaying after JC and AP before him in making absurd comments and using buzz words like consistency and confidence, when clearly the opposite is true, is throwing his job under the bus

  • 55 SUTTY1978 // Dec 30, 2015 at 11:44 AM

    Jib, when have we been unlucky?? WBA managed to only score one from 22 attempts, it’s not like it was their only shot in the game, same goes for Everton. We have been the worse side in every game apart from against the Mackems and we still managed to get stuffed in that one. McClaren is incapable of finding a winning formula with this team. We have had a few lucky wins thats it. Hard lines my arse

  • 56 WWSBRD // Dec 30, 2015 at 11:45 AM

    Jib
    Cracking come back son u are evidently well versed in a debate u have retorted all my points fantastically via ignoring them all

    I can see why ur so highly thought of on here with that level of input

  • 57 Rotonda heights // Dec 30, 2015 at 11:45 AM

    Moonraker

    It is more than just top players we need. SM is a buffoon who can not see the error of his ways, is fatally stubborn with no plan B in sight and makes way too many head scratching decisions.

  • 58 AK Malaysia // Dec 30, 2015 at 11:46 AM

    Height,
    I can put Mahrez, Ozil or Blind at that left sided midfield… but we all know it will not happen… with the team current position, not many are willing to come.. plus we need a left side mid who can also defense and support our ever fragile leftback … and since Townsend is now hardly plays at Spurs, I sincerely thing that he is capable of doing something good for the team… anyhow, since you didn’t agree with Townsend… who’s you pick then?? (Logical choices, please..)

  • 59 WWSBRD // Dec 30, 2015 at 11:47 AM

    SUTTY
    Maybe we are unlucky because we support Newcastle? And dont be too mean we arent allowed to judge McClaren and NUFC until….erm not really sure mate Id ask Jib but I feel I am already fighting a losing battle trying to get him to answer 1 question never mind 2

  • 60 Jib // Dec 30, 2015 at 11:48 AM

    Moonraker15
    It would be just like us and typical of this topsy turvy season if we beat The Gunners on Saturday afternoon.

  • 61 Our Toon // Dec 30, 2015 at 11:54 AM

    Munster

    You’d buy Austin aka 3:16. Mr sick note is currently enjoying his 2nd spell in the treatment room, add to that he’s been dropped by Jimmy and no one seems to want this player that only newcastle fans rate. I’m intrigued why you think Austin would be a good signing?

    His record wasn’t even better than Cisse’s last season, mins per goal etc….We need quality players agreed but Austin is nothing but bang average!!

  • 62 AncientC // Dec 30, 2015 at 11:54 AM

    Remi Garde is trying to get Loic Remy on loan. I would personally be gutted if that deal goes through. We paid a £2 million loan fee last time out for him, he would be worth that for less than half of the season left in the upcoming window. I am certain we could offer Remy a better chance of getting international football over Villa too.

  • 63 Our Toon // Dec 30, 2015 at 11:55 AM

    I agree on Shelvey though he’s a player who could excel here

  • 64 Jib // Dec 30, 2015 at 11:59 AM

    Sutty
    WBA only had 5 shots on target ( most of which were blocked by Colo ) we had 3 on target ourselves and were the away team.
    West Brom were gifted their goal by Darlow.

  • 65 NoahJ // Dec 30, 2015 at 12:11 PM

    lesh @28

    Surely his abilities are under more scrutiny if he appears to genuinely believe we’re playing well? There are ways of admitting that we were poor without publicly criticising players (as he did with je jong against villa, and darlow against west brom actually)…

    I just wish we had a manager in charge who was honest enough to say “we’re not good enough, but x, y and z will change”… it’s just simple accountability, and that’s the least we the fans deserve

  • 66 Ravostag // Dec 30, 2015 at 3:40 PM

    No bad luck, no poor refereeing, no rain, no penalties just POOR PLAYER S. Other teams find good players without paying 13m and get them from lower leagues Mahrez Vardy Morgan piuncheon clyne deli ali Long the list is endless these lads hit the ground running. Give Lascelles a chance and Mbabu

  • 67 edgar.ee // Dec 30, 2015 at 4:53 PM

    although shearer is a club legend, i think he should think twice before he speaks. he was the one who got us relegated and insisted on having iain dowie as his assistant.

  • 68 stuart no9 // Dec 30, 2015 at 10:12 PM

    How can people keep saying we are not in a dangerous position yet . Bottom 3 on 17 points , keep this up in the 2nd half of season and we are down . Sounds a little bit iffy to me like .




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