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Steve McClaren Is Making Some Strange Statements

8:27 am, Thursday, December 31st, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 100 Comments

When you are managing something and especially when you are leading people, it’s always necessary to be positive and upbeat about things – but you also have to be down to earth and realistic too.

If you are too positive all the time – like John Carver was as one example last season – you get to be seen as a pollyanna when everything is great all the time – and we all know that’s not true.

So if you in trouble you have to say that – but also talk about how to get out of the situation – that’s being both realistic and positive too.

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Some of Steve McClaren’s comments yesterday verge on bring overly positive about a number of things and he made one or two strange comments to the press.

There’s no doubt that Steve is now under pressure after collecting just one point from the last three games – which were all winnable games for us against average side – especially after we had just beaten Liverpool and Tottenham.

This is some of what Steve said yesterday:

“Believe me, under the surface, I am paddling like mad,” “But we have a little bit more information than everyone else. We know what we have got and what we are trying to do.”

“We feel as if we are getting there after a tough start. That is the first half of the season gone. 2015 is about to end — good. We cannot wait for the next year.”

“It would worry me if they weren’t giving attitude, effort, weren’t being bright around the place, weren’t playing as committed as they were, weren’t creating chances as we are, playing the football that we are.”

“We are just not getting the results from that. That will have to turn, that will have to change and, with 19 games to go, we will have to do it very quickly..”

“I’m quite a realist. I do know what’s happening and I try not to pull the wool over too many people’s eyes. I’m very positive with this group and this squad. I always have been.”

“We had a tough start, but since then we have collected points and shown we can compete with anyone on our day.”

It’s just that it’s not too many times that it is our day. and it becomes a (very) hard sell over time when you keep saying the team is playing well but we are just not getting the results we deserve.

And we have no idea what Steve really means by I try not to pull the wool over too many people’s eyes – but it’s probably tongue in cheek.

Steve has to show the likes of Mike Ashley that he knows what he’s doing and better things are on the horizon.

But on the other hand, we’ve been waiting for better things to come all this season – especially after last season’s absolute and complete nightmare.

Steve will be given time to put things right, but we don’t think Mike Ashley will wait and stick with him if it looks like we are going down.

Ashley will most likely bring somebody else in to attempt to preserve our Premier League status if at all possible.

Whether that happens or not depends on the results and maybe on how we do in the four games in January against Arsenal, Manchester United, West Ham and Watford – all top eight clubs at the moment.

So the way we have been playing this season – very well against the good clubs – we could even do OK in January.

But the sad truth is that Newcastle have plummeted as a club over the last two years and smaller clubs are now doing so much better than us – and they are also above us in the Premier League.

Who would have thought that Leicester City, Crystal Palace, West Ham, Watford and Stoke City would be in the top eight going into 2016?

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100 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Ron Knee // Dec 31, 2015 at 8:30 AM

    Not sure, Ed. They didn’t replace John Carver.

  • 2 WWSBRD // Dec 31, 2015 at 8:33 AM

    Do we not look like we are going down now?

  • 3 Transfer Sage // Dec 31, 2015 at 8:42 AM

    It’s almost more concerning that the players are putting in the effort and we still don’t look like being able to win.

    It shouts for a lack of quality or poor preparation/tactics.

  • 4 John Tudor // Dec 31, 2015 at 8:45 AM

    another gobshite towing the party line
    ffs enough is enough
    but a lot will just sit back and take it up the @ss
    not me

  • 5 Transfer Sage // Dec 31, 2015 at 8:46 AM

    I wouldn’t have predicted palace, leicester and watford in the top 8 but I’d have put Stoke there.

    Stoke have been very clever in getting a good manager who plays decent football. They were solid as a defensive unit and Hughes has added real quality in the forward lines. They have skills, pace and vision.

  • 6 John Tudor // Dec 31, 2015 at 8:53 AM

    transfer we on the other hand are pretty much useless in all departments and being led by a hasbeen with little or no clue to motivate what he has

  • 7 nufcursed // Dec 31, 2015 at 9:04 AM

    Ed you’re wrong there! it’s mcclaren at west brom as you can see pulis in the back!

  • 8 Rotonda heights // Dec 31, 2015 at 9:06 AM

    I don’t think SM is going anywhere, as AP showed, you virtually have to kill someone to get the boot here and even then he left, wasn’t fired.

    We are a rest home for mediocrity. The people who have rocked up at sjp over the last 9 years wouldn’t have got a gig anywhere else.

  • 9 Rotonda heights // Dec 31, 2015 at 9:10 AM

    Sage

    Hughes has surprised me in the way Pulis did at CP. Never rated him at all previously, especially at Manc.

    However, this season Stoke’s football has been an absolute joy to watch and Bojan, Shakiri and Arnatovic are a bit special with license to play and hurt teams.

  • 10 Our Toon // Dec 31, 2015 at 9:18 AM

    Just read somewhere that dembele of Fulham is out of contract in the summer…..would any of you make a bid for him now? 19 years old has 10 odd goals in 26 games which is not bad for someone so young

  • 11 Mag52 // Dec 31, 2015 at 9:19 AM

    Ashley has been f@cking around with this club for far too long and there has to be an end to it pretty soon if he’s not going to see his asset dropping out of the serious money.
    It’s all very well, and too easy, to put the blame on the managers he employs, the guys who have to front up each week following the latest loss.
    In spite of what he hinted at earlier in the season, the puppet master is still operating his puppets and he and he alone is the root cause of the dire position we find ourselves in half way through the season.
    ASHLEY OUT has to be the rallying cry throughout the second half of it.

  • 12 Rotonda heights // Dec 31, 2015 at 9:23 AM

    Townsend and austin are not the answers.

    We need a quick mobile striker who can create for himself, someone like a younger remy or a slimmer Berahino. If only we had paid the going rate for PEA. Imagine what he’d be worth now.

    We need a creative midfielder more than anything. Shelvey or the Russian guy.

    If we aren’t going to play a sweeper with wing backs which I think would work really well, a LB should be absolutely paramount too. Haidara is a bit of a headless chicken and Dummet is a decent stand in CB.

    So many times we’ve made false economies and passed on the likes of P.E.A and Dele Alli because we wouldn’t go the extra mile and then splash nearly 30M on dodgy characters like Mitro and Thauvin.

    The club is run by useless cretinous chancers.

  • 13 Transfer Sage // Dec 31, 2015 at 9:23 AM

    Rotonda

    I rated Hughes quite highly, he has done a good job at a few clubs, Blackburn and Fulham (I think it was).

    Man City was always going to be hard, he was there when ownership changed hands and it was when they were starting to try and push up the league. They couldn’t sign the worlds best players, just decent ones and then talented lads who might be a bit difficult (Robinho). So it was never going to be easy.

    I think he may well do a very good job as the man utd boss in the future.

  • 14 Tsunki // Dec 31, 2015 at 9:28 AM

    ” I’ve forgotten which colour we are. Anyone?”

  • 15 TudorCrisps // Dec 31, 2015 at 9:29 AM

    i want moyes in charge with 50 + Million to spend in january otherwise i will stamp my feet but still silently support the lads on the pitch

  • 16 Tsunki // Dec 31, 2015 at 9:29 AM

    Yes Tony Pulis has satnav problems.

  • 17 davis_toons // Dec 31, 2015 at 9:31 AM

    How about giving chris hughton 50 million to spent?

  • 18 Rotonda heights // Dec 31, 2015 at 9:32 AM

    Mag 52

    It is mainly all to do with the cheap second rate options Ash has employed:-

    JFK twice, AP, Wise, Llambias, SM etc.

    If Ash didn’t want to be hands on you appoint a knowledgeable football chairman like David Dein or similar with a good track record.

    You get a manager with a consistently proven good track record, not a hit and miss one.

    You put a good scouting network in place not a near 80 year old man on his own whose judgement becomes more questionable by the day.

    You stick with a reputable sponsor like Virgin, not s—bags like Wonga.

    The list is endless but effectively at the end of the day we are managed by a failed no guts manager, sponsored by wonga, playing at he sports direct arena.

  • 19 lochinvar // Dec 31, 2015 at 9:33 AM

    McClaren,
    “Believe me, under the surface, I am paddling like mad,” “But we have a little bit more information than everyone else. We know what we have got and what we are trying to do.”

    Are these ramblings from the cult of David Ike ( beware if McClaren starts wearing a purple tracksuit ) , the Little Book of Coach Carver or Pardew’s Memoirs “I had a dream” – soon to be serialised in the Metro paper.

    It would be so much less painful that it is if he stopped the drivel and got on with the job – please.

  • 20 Rotonda heights // Dec 31, 2015 at 9:33 AM

    Yet 50000 still turn up so we are stuck with it.

  • 21 TudorCrisps // Dec 31, 2015 at 9:33 AM

    we will end up with cathro with 5 games to get us out the shyte which we will lose all 5 hoping cathro is good enough to bring us backup the season after nexrt

  • 22 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Dec 31, 2015 at 9:34 AM

    To me McLaren is making noises to soften the blow that no one will be coming in this transfer window with don’t believe paper speculation and Riviere like a new signing and Aarons back in training.

    Either the fat controller has decided if we finish fourth bottom without spending brilliant – extra money and spent nowt – win win situation

    or
    If we go down spent nowt -parachute payment, sell players that’s worth anything reduce staff – win situation.

    Hope I am wrong and we spend!

    but what ever happens the club needs a change of direction – cannot keep buying young players for a sell on fee

  • 23 Rotonda heights // Dec 31, 2015 at 9:37 AM

    Tudor crisps

    Moyes is the man who bored the mancs and then the catalans into submission.

    Moyes might have been better than ok back in the day but somewhere we have to break this cycle of defensive long ball Brit / English managers.

    Where is our Pochetinno, Klopp, Flores even. Moyes just means more of the same.

  • 24 Transfer Sage // Dec 31, 2015 at 9:38 AM

    Charlie

    I personally think we will sign 3 players. I don’t think Ashley will want to risk going down this year so might try to buy us out of trouble.

    If this team went down they wouldn’t come back up. Good championship players cost in the region of 7-10mil now so won’t be cheap buying the quality to give us a chance to come up.

  • 25 TudorCrisps // Dec 31, 2015 at 9:39 AM

    exactlly charlie MA has taken the heart and soul from our club yet we still turn up in thousands to support and jeer his business its like standing out side mcdonalds and jeering every time they sell a bigmac

  • 26 Ron Knee // Dec 31, 2015 at 9:40 AM

    Charlie

    Do you think Fatso will settle for Championship football? It would mean less exposure for Sh*t Direct.

  • 27 Transfer Sage // Dec 31, 2015 at 9:41 AM

    Rotonda

    Exactly, football always changes and you need coaches successful now, not in the past.

    Van Gaal was brilliant in the 90s, done very little in the past 10 years and that shows.

    Look at guys like Allerdyce, Pulis, etc….decent managers, but in the case of allerdyce have gone from guaranteeing top 10 to now just guaranteeing survival…even that’s not a guarantee now.

    They aren’t bad managers, just not necessarily suited to the current style of most teams/players in the prem league.

  • 28 Rotonda heights // Dec 31, 2015 at 9:44 AM

    crisps

    that’s a very good analogy. we moan like b-gg–y yet 50000 continue to make sure ash goes nowhere.

    I would take relegation now if it meant the end of ash and his minions who have thoroughly wrecked this club down to the ground.

  • 29 TudorCrisps // Dec 31, 2015 at 9:44 AM

    so you would say no to fergie if he came out of retirement then?

    if you no your stuff then you no your stuff.

  • 30 Ron Knee // Dec 31, 2015 at 9:47 AM

    RH

    I think it would take several seasons in the lower divisions before Ashley relinquished his grasp. Might be necessary though!

  • 31 TudorCrisps // Dec 31, 2015 at 9:50 AM

    hear hear rotonda

  • 32 optimistic prime // Dec 31, 2015 at 9:51 AM

    Sharings caring Steeve, spit it out the info.

  • 33 jayphoto // Dec 31, 2015 at 9:55 AM

    Think they will definitely sign a couple in January. The Shelvey link seems reoccurring. Don’t think there’s anything in the austin or townsend rumours.
    for the sake of spending 25m they could miss out on huge money for years! Its getting harder to get out of the championship!
    Need 3 players for me. A centreback, a centre mid and a centre forward.
    Id take Vestergaard and Shelvey.
    Increasingly looking like Armstrong should be recalled and actually given 10 games or so at Newcastle. I know its a step up but pace is transferrable

  • 34 Transfer Sage // Dec 31, 2015 at 9:55 AM

    Tudor

    Ferguson was still successful when he retired. He continually evolved to suit the changing game.

    Some managers can adapt and have continued success, others live off their past reputation and continue to get jobs based on what they have done and not what they are doing.

  • 35 firebug666 // Dec 31, 2015 at 9:57 AM

    McClaren’s mutterings smacks of him being satisfied with what we have, similar to the inept one.

    There will be few if any signings in January, and McClaren will then follow in the inept ones shoes by stating we have enough to get through and he is very happy with the squad.

    It’s always the same spiel in a different wrapper.

  • 36 Transfer Sage // Dec 31, 2015 at 9:57 AM

    Jay

    Agree on armstrong, he seems a good finisher. He’d have less time in the prem and less chances with us but his pace could stretch teams.

    I’d rather have him on our bench than out on loan if we don’t strengthen in January.

  • 37 Mag52 // Dec 31, 2015 at 9:59 AM

    Rotonda.

    There’s hardly a manager in work who hasn’t failed somewhere along the line.
    As for NUFC employing a manager who could be considered anywhere in the top echelon of managers, forget it as long as you know who owns the club.
    His reputation as someone to work for stinks to high heaven.

  • 38 lesh // Dec 31, 2015 at 9:59 AM

    WWSBRD

    Don’t they think we’re looking at the drop now?

    Nope. They’ll choose to ignore it until they feel they’ve no choice than to pay up McClaren’s contract.

    And then? Well there’s always Honest John out there and he’d cost nowt – well apart from the millions lost as a result of relegation.

  • 39 Transfer Sage // Dec 31, 2015 at 10:00 AM

    Mag 52

    I think Ashley will leave soon. It will get increasingly hard for him to operate in such a way and stay in the premier league.

    There is no incentive for him to own us in the Championship.

    I would be surprised if he was here in 5 years time. Just a feeling.

  • 40 lesh // Dec 31, 2015 at 10:03 AM

    Sage

    We’re seeing the results of a lack of in-depth quality, poor players signed for the wrong positions and thus the limited options available to McClaren – hence players being played out of position and thus limited tactical options.

  • 41 Our Toon // Dec 31, 2015 at 10:04 AM

    TS

    I agree on Ashley leaving soon, the money generated from TV deal will see to him getting big money for the club

    Might sounds a bit bonkers but I think we’ll beat the drop, there’s always 1 team that gets sucked into it late on. Villa and the mackems have gone in my eyes so 1 spot up for grabs

  • 42 firebug666 // Dec 31, 2015 at 10:04 AM

    Sage

    Him leaving will not be the problem, it’s what he leaves behind, how tightly has he got his SD hooks buried into the club? And would any prospective buyers be put off by that?

    What he leaves behind could still damage the club for years to come.

  • 43 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Dec 31, 2015 at 10:05 AM

    Ron Knee
    He is a gambler and might have a gamble on going down for a season to come straight back up! – Big Big Risk!!!
    Transfer
    Hopefully he does spend and bring in 3 players – 3 quality players would make a hell of a difference to the team/squad.
    tudor
    God knows what happens at the TOON

  • 44 optimistic prime // Dec 31, 2015 at 10:06 AM

    Transfer

    I hope you’re right regarding the slug leaving.

    He’s a slimmy twat and I honestly worry how he’ll stitch us up when he leaves, he’s not here for NUFC or our benifit!

  • 45 lesh // Dec 31, 2015 at 10:06 AM

    Ffs Sage!

    Lighten up man. Ashley here for another five years mean that some of us won’t be around to wave him off.

    Give us old pharts a break, something to look forward to.

  • 46 optimistic prime // Dec 31, 2015 at 10:07 AM

    Firebug

    Morning lad, I see we’re signing from the same hm sheet again 🙂

  • 47 optimistic prime // Dec 31, 2015 at 10:08 AM

    Singing

  • 48 lesh // Dec 31, 2015 at 10:08 AM

    Jay

  • 49 SUTTY1978 // Dec 31, 2015 at 10:10 AM

    Armstrong seems to have gone off the boil recently, not sure you could hang your hat on him doing anything for us in the second half of the season if he did come back

  • 50 lesh // Dec 31, 2015 at 10:10 AM

    Jay

    Shelvey’s reporter as telling Swansea he wants to stay there.

    Another one they’ll not get over the line.

  • 51 Our Toon // Dec 31, 2015 at 10:11 AM

    Lesh

    When he has had the options available to him he still plays lads out of position, especially on the left wing. Move Gini inside behind the striker he’d score more than Perez in that position. McClaren has to take the blame for this, I don’t mind 2 holding midfielders in away games but at home the moron still persists with 2 holding lads.

    Yes the squad isn’t great but on paper it’s better than some of the teams above us….is he getting the best out of that squad, no he isn’t, the only player he’s getting the best out of is Elliot in goal!! He pissed about pre season with no plan in any friendlies and it’s costing us to this day. What did he learn by playing Bigi in defence and Ferguson.

    Why did he decide Abeid wasn’t upto to it when clearly it’s an area of the pitch we are most vulnerable? We all agree the Ashley is the main problem but as a manager you have to get the best out of the team you have, that’s what you essentially get paid for and in this he’s failed big time

  • 52 hibbitt // Dec 31, 2015 at 10:13 AM

    sage even if he leaves he will have us by the balls just like rangers

  • 53 firebug666 // Dec 31, 2015 at 10:14 AM

    OP

    Aye it’s common sense mate, Ashley will have SD tightly tied to our club in so many ways, that any knew owner will be lucky to have control over cutting the grass.

    Hope your well, Me and our lass are going out tonight for the first time in over a year, should be in a suitable state for the match tomorrow. pmsl!

  • 54 lesh // Dec 31, 2015 at 10:14 AM

    And in the meantime, it looks as though Everton’s agreed to let Naismith go to Norwich and are on the point of signing a young lad – Tarashaj from Grasshoppers Zurich.

    Meanwhile on the bridge of the good ship NUFC, Charnley’s supervising the rearrangement of the deckchairs!

    Clueless, money grabbing clowns

  • 55 Our Toon // Dec 31, 2015 at 10:14 AM

    I’m not sold on Armstrong yet, leave him at Coventry to continue his development. If we get relegated then he can play for us in the championship and build from there much like Carroll did. In the long term if the kid is good enough it’ll benefit us more than recalling him now

  • 56 optimistic prime // Dec 31, 2015 at 10:16 AM

    The Ghost of Christmas past must have visited Ashley, he’s giving his SD employees a raise.

    There’s hope yet 😉

  • 57 lesh // Dec 31, 2015 at 10:17 AM

    Our Toon

    If memory serves me well, McClaren had little if any involvement in pre-season games.

  • 58 firebug666 // Dec 31, 2015 at 10:19 AM

    OP

    He’ll take that payrise out of the NUFC parachute payment, The only spirits that fat tw@ see comes out of a bottle.

  • 59 optimistic prime // Dec 31, 2015 at 10:19 AM

    Firebug

    Hope you’s have a good one.
    I’ve already had a starring completion with the Stella in the fridge, it’s gota be ok to have a early beer on NYE 🙂

    I’ll be good and wait until 11

  • 60 Our Toon // Dec 31, 2015 at 10:19 AM

    Does Charnley exist? He obviously does but for all we know he’s still the teaboy. Ashley’s puppet and face for when all things go wrong. There is now way in hell he’d leave any negotiations in the hands of that bloke, if he does he has a lowest and highest offer pre negotiations. Ashley is the board.

    Btw what’s Moncur’s role on the board? Sold his sole did that bloke, tarnished his reputation for me…..will never consider him as anything other than an enabler for this regime

  • 61 Jib // Dec 31, 2015 at 10:20 AM

    Mag52 — Ashley has been f@cking around with this club for far too long and there has to be an end to it.

    I agree with that statement,

    However I believe an end to it came last Summer.

    Just because it’s not going at the pace we would all like probably because the problems with the club were more fundamental than suspected doesn’t mean it’s not happening.

    It’s interesting that someone brought up Mark Hughes’ name.
    There are more similarities between him and McClaren than you would think.
    Similar Ages
    Both managed their national teams (not very well) about 15 years ago
    Hughes managed
    Blackburn
    Man City
    Fulham
    QPR
    They both won the League cup ( 2 years apart actually) with the first club they managed.
    Until now apart from his early success Hughes has been nowt to right home about but now Stoke have become a force to be reckoned with.

    The reason ?

    The Coates family (owners of Bet365) leave him the f@ck alone and let him get on with it !

  • 62 Our Toon // Dec 31, 2015 at 10:20 AM

    Lesh

    Really? Why would you say that mate? Surely he took training worked on things in ore season amd selected the squads for games?

  • 63 optimistic prime // Dec 31, 2015 at 10:22 AM

    Leah

    Most of our senior players had little or no involvement in our pre season.

    Our new CB pairing never played a minute together if memory serves.

    Not sure on Mc total involvement, but from outside it looked poor prep and poorley planned.

  • 64 Our Toon // Dec 31, 2015 at 10:23 AM

    Jib

    Are you sure that both didn’t manage national teams very well, I seem to remember Hughes making his name for doing very well with a very poor Welsh side

  • 65 firebug666 // Dec 31, 2015 at 10:24 AM

    OP

    Most defiantly ok for early beers, Having a massive hangover for the match tomorrow will have me in tune with our players, lacklustre, can’t be bothered, and couldn’t give a fcuk what anyone says.

  • 66 Rotonda heights // Dec 31, 2015 at 10:29 AM

    Firebug

    It’s worse with SM. We kind of knew the football would be and was largely dire under AP, despite his hilarious ” my teams always play on the front foot”.

    But SM actually tried to give us the spiel that we would play pass and move, progressive modern attacking football.

    In my eyes that’s almost worse than AP’s blatant b–ls–t.

    SA, AP, JC and SM have all played defensive long ball with a huge fear factor and a plan B being a distant cousin, not on speaking terms.

  • 67 optimistic prime // Dec 31, 2015 at 10:29 AM

    Firebug

    If you have their mindset before you go out you’ll never get a drink, you’ll be to scared of someone bumping into someone at the bar.

  • 68 banjax // Dec 31, 2015 at 10:34 AM

    When Newcastle get beaten at Arsenal, will Schteeve be sacked, doubt it. Will Lee Charnley lose his job, doubt it. So the question is how long will this sad state of affairs be allowed to continue ?

  • 69 Jib // Dec 31, 2015 at 10:36 AM

    Our Toon
    His most succesful time with Wales was as a part-time manager whilst still playing.
    He fell out with the Wales set up over losing to Russia to miss Euro 2004 and signed as Blackburn manager
    Wales Record
    G W D L
    41 12 15 14 29.27%

  • 70 jimiley // Dec 31, 2015 at 10:36 AM

    Very positive stuff from McLaren. We need cheering up after 7 SEVEN wins in the whole of 2015. Thats the worst in the clubs history. Good to see Steve still in control and no sign of panic by the big boss. Continuity is very important.

  • 71 Jib // Dec 31, 2015 at 10:39 AM

    Banjax
    He has a 3 year contract 😎 (until June 2018)

  • 72 jimiley // Dec 31, 2015 at 10:40 AM

    If the big boss does not panic after the worst year in the clubs history (in terms of results) he never will panic. Steve is here for the duration . Continuity is very important

  • 73 Ron Knee // Dec 31, 2015 at 10:41 AM

    jimiley

    We’re consistent. That’s the main thing.

  • 74 Our Toon // Dec 31, 2015 at 10:43 AM

    Jib

    That Welsh side was very poor though, he over achieved for them to narrowly miss out on the euros, since then the Welsh side has kicked on with the likes of Bale and Ramsey etc. I might be wrong but didn’t he lose to Russia in a playoff?

    Think in 2004 they had Earnshaw playing upfront

  • 75 Jib // Dec 31, 2015 at 10:48 AM

    OT
    Yup ’twere a play off you is right

  • 76 optimistic prime // Dec 31, 2015 at 10:50 AM

    The silly season is here, lots are saying Sunderland and Villa are worse than us and a cpl throw in Norwich and Swansea.

    My problem ATM is Sunderland will definatley strengthen as will Norwich and Swansea, that leaves us and Villa who are likely to do nowt.

    It’s going to be a nervous jan especially as the others in the relegation fight already have players lined up, the mackems have players taking medicals and Mc is talking about Rivierre being like a new signing!

    Last one pssssed stinks!

  • 77 Jib // Dec 31, 2015 at 10:53 AM

    Supermac’s England record
    G18 W9 D4 L5 50.0 %WA
    Hughes’ WA was 30% ish
    Yet if you were to ask folk who was most successful 90% would say Sparky.
    Just shows the value of stats I guess 😀

  • 78 Transfer Sage // Dec 31, 2015 at 10:55 AM

    Jib

    I think hughes has blackburn 6th for 3 successive years, quite a good achievement. He id pretty well at fulham too.

    QPR was a right, every manager has proved the same there in recent years.

    You’re right about leaving him to get on with it and buying the players he needs.

  • 79 Transfer Sage // Dec 31, 2015 at 10:57 AM

    our toon

    Earnshaw is the only player to score a hattrick in all top 4 english divisions and international football.

    Not saying he is good, just giving you a pointless fact.

  • 80 firebug666 // Dec 31, 2015 at 10:57 AM

    Rotonda

    I agree mate, SM is probably the worst head coach the morons in charge could have brought in.

    The lies we are told are sometime unbelievably stupid.

    This is a club that tell it’s supporters it wants to be successful, and that it will give the supporters a team they can be proud of…..pmsl….. The results show the truth, we have a team that cannot be bothered to put in the required work for 90+ minutes, and a head coach who tells us they are doing well.

    We are told we are wanting to finish in the top eight, and that we are going for a good run in the cup, what they mean is top 8 in the championship, and a run in the Johnson’s Paint Trophy.

    The pathetic idiots who claim they run the club, don’t realise that they are doing exactly that, with the addition of one word, they run the club ‘DOWN’.

    OP

    I ain’t going out if I cannot get drunk.

  • 81 reilly // Dec 31, 2015 at 11:08 AM

    look at the managers who ashley has brought in,they are either lower league or relics of the past.
    the next manager after mcclaren will come from the same pool,if ashley really wanted this club to be a succcess he would go out and try and bring in a good manager.but all he wants is for us to plod along in the prem,thats why we get these managers.

  • 82 Transfer Sage // Dec 31, 2015 at 11:17 AM

    Reilly

    I just don’t understand it myself.

    Ashley turns up to most games so he has to watch this drivel that’s served up too.

    Without spending more money he could hire a good manager, not world class but good and trust his judgement on players.

    Still focus on younger players but add the odd few players with experience and quality to help bring these lads on.

    We could still function easily given the vast amounts of money from TV deals.

    It beggers belief why he risks it every year and annoys/bores the fans when he could have the best of both worlds with a bit of effort.

  • 83 firebug666 // Dec 31, 2015 at 11:20 AM

    Gini Wijnaldum talking to the Chronicle:

    “Even when things don’t look good you don’t stop fighting – if we do stop now it may as well be all over now.

    “We still have 19 to play and the only thing we can do is keep fighting, giving up is not an option and I hope the supporters don’t give up on us either.

    “It is difficult to say things to them, if you look at the table we are in the relegation zone.

    “I hope they still want to support us because we need them, fantastic that they still come in great numbers to away games.

    “I hope they will do it again this season because we need them but it’s hard to say anything to them when performances aren’t good and you don’t win games.

    “We should not be looking back after games and saying we should have had a penalty or we should have this or that – we must look at what happened in games.”

    Or perhaps you could look at your performance, and that of your team mate and fix the many things that aren’t working, Maybe have a word with your head coach and tell him his tactics are bollocks, his training weak, and plan ‘B’ none existent.

    The fans have got behind the team, and cheered and jeered them, but you have delivered a relegation battle as their reward.

  • 84 Graeme // Dec 31, 2015 at 11:26 AM

    Reilly @ 81

    Didn’t Jose Morhino say he would like to take a struggling club and build it into a Powerhouse?? So what the hell are we waiting for? Get him brought in!!! lmao.

  • 85 optimistic prime // Dec 31, 2015 at 11:27 AM

    Someone should tell Steeve to evict the hamster with alopecia that’s living on his forehead.

  • 86 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Dec 31, 2015 at 11:29 AM

    http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11695/10114645/lamine-kone-set-for-sunderland-move-after-lorient-accept-bid

    Norwich , Bournemouth already signed players and now Sunderland looking likely !!

    I hope we are actually getting the finger out

  • 87 reilly // Dec 31, 2015 at 11:31 AM

    lmao,jose wages would make ashley run a mile.
    give the fat twat nightmares.lol

    if mcclaren does get the bullet it will be someone like oleary or curbishley or jfk

  • 88 OneAlanShearer // Dec 31, 2015 at 11:32 AM

    I can’t wait to see Ashley show his commitment to the club and support through major investment in new players.

    At least 4 in surely.

    I’d be surprised if we got anything like that.

  • 89 firebug666 // Dec 31, 2015 at 11:33 AM

    LCBP

    Not very likely mate, it’s far to expensive for our club to bring in player in the winter, your namesake said so.

    Besides we have a full squad mate, and have to sell or release players before we could buy any, and that can take months if not years.

    I hope we do bring some in, but I won’t be holding my breath!

  • 90 reilly // Dec 31, 2015 at 11:34 AM

    if we do bring in players this window,they will be brought in at the last minute.

  • 91 geordie157 // Dec 31, 2015 at 11:40 AM

    we’ll spend the whole window chasing this Koulibaly bloke only to fail.

  • 92 Jib // Dec 31, 2015 at 11:41 AM

    This is probs the best account of yesterdays presser

    http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/14175381.Steve_McClaren_smiles_for_the_cameras__but_admits_he_is_feeling_the_pressure_at_Newcastle_United/

  • 93 Our Toon // Dec 31, 2015 at 11:43 AM

    TS

    Wowza that is some stat on Earnshaw, kudos to him though battling his way to the top. That’s some achievement to retire with.

    Jib – Yep stats can be misleading buddy, but the main stat to concentrate on is McClaren took over a side that got knocked out of the semi final in a world cup to a side that didn’t qualify for a major tournament and Wales went from struggling to qualify to almost qualifying!!

  • 94 nut meg // Dec 31, 2015 at 11:44 AM

    I think we will bring 2/3 players in this window. BUT, will they be to help build a team or will it be for resale value, progress or profit? Time will tell.

  • 95 beermonkey // Dec 31, 2015 at 11:50 AM

    until the club changes what it does from buying players managers coaches nothing will change

    we have a scout in charge of buying players but there is no structure to buying no thought about building a team and a squad of players. we buy players when we think the price is right not what the squad or manager needs

    the club need an identity a style of play then coaches bought in to make it happen from the kids to the first team, even fat sam proved with a decent attacking coach he could play half decent football last season

    get these basics right it will make the rest easier to get into place
    its not about foreign managers being better or British players being better than foreign ones its about bringing in the right people

    and it is all down to one man the owner

  • 96 Our Toon // Dec 31, 2015 at 12:01 PM

    Coaches on the Continent have players bought for them by a scout or group of people, it’s up to the manager though to get the best out of them. If the club want to go with with this policy then it’s only logical that a foreign coach is bought in.

    Foreign coaches are better than British ones

  • 97 Transfer Sage // Dec 31, 2015 at 12:05 PM

    Our toon

    I don’t think that ever works unless the people buying the players work with the manager. Ultimately the manager can see them day in day out so knows what is lacking.

    It is useful to have a fresh pair of eyes look from the outside as well, so it does help to have a few involved with transfers…at least to discuss how everything works,

  • 98 nightfa11 // Dec 31, 2015 at 12:07 PM

    I dont want a british manager..no offence, But british managers are as creative as potato..

  • 99 nut meg // Dec 31, 2015 at 12:12 PM

    Anyone of you lads who watch Italian football have an opinion on this player we’ve been linked with?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH6WgKkxt5Y

  • 100 Blackley and Brownlie // Dec 31, 2015 at 12:15 PM

    “Believe me, under the surface, I am paddling like mad,” “But we have a little bit more information than everyone else. We know what we have got and what we are trying to do.”

    “We’ve got options. We can either sweep the fringe back or brush it to the side. We have tinkered with dragging some from the back but the jury is out on that one. Will we shave it off? We’ll see. A transplant? It’s an option but we think we have enough here to do a job without bringing in more. But it’s an option and we’ll see. We’ve been managing it for years but you’ve got to realise it’s an ever changing picture. We just need to settle on the right style. One that works.”




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