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Stellar Transfer Window Now Newcastle´s Big Hope

10:20 am, Sunday, January 3rd, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 111 Comments

When we were hoping in these holiday games that we could pick up a couple of wins and move out of the relegation zone –  the opposite has happened.

We lost every game and Newcastle have given up ground to clubs like Sunderland, Norwich, Bournemouth and West Brom to name a few.

In the last four games Norwich for example have gained 8 points on us with three wins a and they are now 6 points above us – seven if you take into consideration goal difference.

This is the first time in the Premier League that we have been fighting in the relegation zone from the first few games of the season and 17 points from the first 20 games is our lowest points ever in the Premier League at this stage of the season.

Mike Ashley Sky Sports West Ham Match May 2015

Mike Ashley in May of last year on Sky Sports
We will be making our own luck from now on

So we are in a very serious position after the holiday fixtures having now lost over half our Premier League games.

The three people who have really put Newcastle in this jeopardy – Mike Ashley, Lee Charnley and Graham Carr – ow have to identify and sign which players will come in during January.

It´s a pity that manager Steve McClaren seems to still be on the outside – but that´s the rather foolish way the club is being run – and we are now paying for that.

Charlie Austin seems to be the perfect striker for Newcastle at the moment but there are rumors in London that Crystal Palace are now the favorites to sign him.

We missed out on the chance to sign him in the summer for £15M and we have paid for that big time with only 19 goals scored in 20 games so far, and yesterday was a great example of a game Charlie could have won for us at Arsenal.

Not paying out £15M for an admittedly overpriced Charlie could now cost us £135M a season if and when we are relegated – so you always have to think of things in the bigger picture.

The leaders at Newcastle simply don´t do that – they are far too thrifty and it looks like the massive spending that was done in the summer has come too late, and we are now paying the piper for not improving the squad  in past transfer windows.

That cannot be done in one swoop – which we tried in the summer.

We are now in worse shape than when Ashley brought in four Frenchmen in one week three years ago, after we were beaten at home 2-1 by Reading in late January and had only 21 points from 23 games played.

It´s going to take something like that – but even better players this time around – if we are to survive in the Premier League this season.

Who would have thought last summer we would be in this position at the start of 2016?

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Comments welcome.

Tags: Newcastle News · Recruitment · Scouting Network · Transfer News and Rumours · Transfer Target

111 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Rotonda heights // Jan 3, 2016 at 10:21 AM

    check out the cricket, unbelievable stuff

  • 2 Nufc-83 // Jan 3, 2016 at 10:23 AM

    Best video I have ever seen on YouTube he just speaks so much sense it’s quality I have been watching him since he started.

  • 3 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 3, 2016 at 10:25 AM

    Based on Austin’s goals per shots last season he would currently have the whopping tally of 4 goals, compared to Mitro’s 3 from the shots Mitro has had. Austin would be pointless. A quick centre forward that can stretch the game and offer us different options for different opposition and game plans.

  • 4 juan // Jan 3, 2016 at 10:27 AM

    Obi Wan Kenobi maybe our only hope

  • 5 Transfer Sage // Jan 3, 2016 at 10:35 AM


    Unbelievable stuff isn’t it.

  • 6 Jib // Jan 3, 2016 at 10:36 AM

    Malta Mag
    Just a personal opinion
    Northumbria police because of the drink situation don’t like 1500 KO’s.

    In March it will still be a relegation dogfight so Sky , as well as it being a derby will want to show it.

    I think it being the early match on Sunday is a knocking bet.

    However Sky seem to allocate about 6/7 weeks ahead so the best you can hope for confirmation is late Jan early Feb.

  • 7 Transfer Sage // Jan 3, 2016 at 10:38 AM


    I disagree slightly with you…those stats don’t like but I don’t think Mitro get’s himself in the right place enough. Same with Perez. They are not natural goal scorers in my opinion.

    I don’t think any striker would have 15 goals with us now but I do think somebody like Ba might have more than both mitro and perez combined.

    Wijnaldum doesn’t seem to have problem finding the net from midfield.

    I do agree though that we need a quality playmaker in the centre of the pitch.

    I’d play a 433 with Tiote holding (looks very good again, I know just a couple games) then have wijnaldum and de jong in front to pull the strings.

  • 8 NoahJ // Jan 3, 2016 at 10:39 AM

    I agree with the True Geordie, this transfer window could determine the next 10 years for this club.

    If we just get even one proven goalscorer (and, for a bonus, decent defensive cover) and play the formation we did yesterday, then I am convinced we will be fine.

    Paying £30m this window is a drop in the ocean for the hundreds of millions we’ll miss out on next year if we don’t get a chunk of the new TV revenue

  • 9 Transfer Sage // Jan 3, 2016 at 10:41 AM


    I agree there,but I think we need to add 3 quality players. A CB, playmaker, goal scoer (potentially even a left back).

    If we go down the few decent players we have will leave and we’ll be left with the rubbish who have no fight in them and we could easily languish in that league with teams like Charlton, Blackburn, etc.

  • 10 stuart no9 // Jan 3, 2016 at 10:45 AM

    stuart no9 // Jan 3, 2016 at 12:35 AM

    thre most frustrating thing tosday for me was that we played well, in parts i thought our counter was better todat than what it has been for a long time, the counter had a bit of zest in it which has been lacking in a lot of games this season , however , a centre forward cant carry on missing like that time and time again .
    has probably cost us 7 points in the last 3 -4 games , that would have put is in a healthy postition . for the game against man u- but it dosnt now , and w’ell struggle,
    a goal scorer is a must in january , mito goes on the bench and observes yhem maybe just maybe we might sneak it , if we ignore this fact then we are down . but pleased with some of the football today , but we are carrying and we cant afford to that in our position

  • 11 John Tudor // Jan 3, 2016 at 10:45 AM

    sadly noah its just not next seasons loss of the mega dosh it will be missed for years to come
    thats what we get for putting up with crap

  • 12 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 3, 2016 at 10:49 AM

    I think Mitro is a natural goalscorer, his past record backs that up. Yes, a quicker centre forward would possibly have done more, but surely if you have a centre forward who is best suited to a style of play, then you play to it. The fact Thauvin didn’t click immediately is probably the big problem that we have had with Mitro. The UEFA talent id set up stated he was a natural goalscorer with good hold up play and an ability to bring players in to the game when he was crowned player of the tournament at a youth international comp a couple of years back.

    His movement in the box is good, but we don’t put in good crosses, we over hit, float them, too close to the keeper etc. Austin and Dost would be struggling just as much.

    I’d play a 433 as well, with Thauvin and Perez either side, pulling into the channels to cross, Gini and one or the other getting in the box as well with a top playmaker on the edge for the second ball. Even without the playmaker, I think McClaren needs to try a 433 and attack teams. Draws aren’t enough anymore, so time to go for the jugular against teams in and around us.

  • 13 Rotonda heights // Jan 3, 2016 at 10:52 AM


    i do find it frustrating like with wijni’s miss yesterday that so many players just hit as hard as they can straight at the keeper. it was crying out for a chip.

    Desperately disappointed with mitro both on the deck and in the air when it comes to finishing and Austin isn’t the answer either.

    We need, as Lilo points out, a striker with pace and mobility who knows where the net is and can get in behind. A bellamy type if you will.


    I’ve never seen that in my life in one session in a test match!!!

  • 14 Rotonda heights // Jan 3, 2016 at 10:53 AM


    sorry, so good i named you twice!!

  • 15 Rotonda heights // Jan 3, 2016 at 10:54 AM

    343 would be my favourite but next best has to be 433

  • 16 John Tudor // Jan 3, 2016 at 10:55 AM

    rotunda he could have done better by going round him or passing the buck

  • 17 Jail for Ashley // Jan 3, 2016 at 10:55 AM

    How does that True Geordie rant for so long undcripted, quite a feat.
    Couldn’t find the game last night as Man U were on at the same time, good game from what I gather though.

  • 18 hibbitt // Jan 3, 2016 at 10:58 AM

    its not the love of the club that will make ashley spend its the TV money + the high profile advertising the prem gives SD round the world its now a case of how big a gamble ash is prepared to take with the riches of the prem or the crumbs of the championship

  • 19 Rotonda heights // Jan 3, 2016 at 10:59 AM

    positives of going down is it may, big may, finally see the back of and get rid of this awful regime. Is that a price worth paying? I don’t know.

    Hugely annoying on yesterday’s evidence is the fact we are possibly only 3/4 quality players and a good manager away from being half decent.

  • 20 Transfer Sage // Jan 3, 2016 at 11:00 AM


    Well thank you. I think that comes from the form though, they are just desperate to hit the target…if we have a few more wins and playing better players tend to take the smarter (although slightly harder) shot instead of just hitting the target. It comes through fear I think.

    It was a crazy innings, superb, had half on radio then half on tv….Stokes is a player who hasn’t got great stats but has such a big influence on some games he is worth his place. Frustrating at times but he is worth having for days like this.


    I haven’t seem Mitro before he came to us so you might be right. I just don’t see great movement or quality in front of goal from him. He misses very easy chances.

    It is also catch 22, if you don’t get good service you don’t waste energy bursting that extra yard sometimes as you know the pass won’t come. It’s difficult really but as you say we need a quality player or two who can create.

  • 21 Rotonda heights // Jan 3, 2016 at 11:00 AM


    who cares as long as he just does it.

  • 22 Transfer Sage // Jan 3, 2016 at 11:02 AM


    Very good but once again frustrating. Why on earth can we not play that well against teams around us.

    We are getting to the point of the season where we now need results, we can’t just keep saying we gave the big guns a run for their money then drop points against sides around us.

    Hopefully we can recreate these displays against sides in the second half of the season.

  • 23 hibbitt // Jan 3, 2016 at 11:02 AM

    rotonda total agree but its the gamble bit that worries me??

  • 24 Transfer Sage // Jan 3, 2016 at 11:05 AM


    400mil was wiped off the sports direct shares a couple weeks back….so not like he needs the money NUFC brings. Sports direct is a huge brand now and he no longer needs UK advertising.

    World wide he could easily buy Ads in a lot of the prem league clubs, especially newly promoted ones to get the exposure if we go down and he needs to sell.

    He won’t ever lose from us, or not in a way which will cause him any hardship.

    I just want rid. Although there are plenty of terrible owners out there as well. Just hope we get a bit of luck with the next guy who takes over, whenever that may be.

  • 25 Rotonda heights // Jan 3, 2016 at 11:05 AM


    I know SA have lost a few players and don’t have Steyn this match but they are still ranked number 1 and playing at home against the number 6 team playing away.

    Sometimes though an innings like Stokes just throws the logic and rulebook out the window.

    Good video from true geordie. Some people may think he’s just a blowhard but in between the foul language he makes some very valid points.

  • 26 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 3, 2016 at 11:08 AM

    Bit left field
    I would take a punt for Ross McCormack scored 13 goals in 25 games in a poor Fulham team. I know he is 29 and not played Premiership football. Also why not go for Remy again did OK for us when here

  • 27 Rotonda heights // Jan 3, 2016 at 11:08 AM

    John tudor

    That was my other suggestion , you rarely see anyone go round the keeper these days, but either that, chipping, curling or dummying the keeper are way better than just belting it straight at the keeper and hoping for the best.

  • 28 NoahJ // Jan 3, 2016 at 11:09 AM

    My biggest fear is Ashley, though obviously not happy, will be content with going down because he might forsee that we would come straight back up- in the easy way we did last time. Times have changed; if we go down this year, I think that we will stay there for a long while.

    It does come with the benefit of stripping out the deadwood, but that’s a small benefit from an otherwise countless cost


  • 29 Toonfan8 // Jan 3, 2016 at 11:11 AM

    Mitrovic is good of the ball, he had some very good chances.. But he lacks luck sometime. To those who criticized Perez, he set up two great chances, one for Wijnaldum and one for Mitrovic.. If they scored those, he would be Motm and everybody would be talking like he set up two great goals… We miss player like Shelvey, Xhaka type, we miss lb, even Dummett is playing quite good, but he isn’t an answer there and we miss quick striker Lacazette, Batshuayi type… Also Redmond would be great acquisition…

  • 30 Bambams // Jan 3, 2016 at 11:12 AM

    I have just watched ‘Big Bash ‘ cricket in a Test Match !

    Stokesy take a bow fella ! It was like watching Beefy or Viv in their prime !

    Can’t wait for the next session.

    On a football note I was hoping we would of got off to a flyer and have a good signing early to show other targets we mean business.
    What’s the betting we only make one signing in the last couple of days of the window

  • 31 Toonfan8 // Jan 3, 2016 at 11:14 AM

    I think we need cb also, strong and tall one, but Colo and Mbemba are playing good now and they have good understanding between them..

  • 32 hibbitt // Jan 3, 2016 at 11:16 AM

    sage i hope your right but this guy will only sell us at the top of the market SD shear price will recover sooner rather then later he will look at that as blip buying ads with other clubs is a possibility but not likely it could cost more on ads then it would to save us plus he would get that back selling a pren team as i say its a gamble

  • 33 cyprus // Jan 3, 2016 at 11:19 AM

    Wini’s was an easy chip, he showed he has that, maybe he panicked. Mitro is a natural and all that but he’s getting chances and not scoring. Had that been Rivi he would’ve been excommunicated by now.

    Mitro’s a kid, he ain’t getting the roll, he’s on a dry run, I don’t know I don’t care right now.

    Get me a gritty, pacey, angry, arrogant, tricky goalscorer. Get me (a) Bellamy.

  • 34 cyprus // Jan 3, 2016 at 11:20 AM

    Or an Aguero. Man is he good.

  • 35 Belfast // Jan 3, 2016 at 11:21 AM

    We need a different type of striker than Austin in my opinion although if Austin was playing yesterday we probably would have won.

    Remy would be great but that’ll never happen.

  • 36 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 3, 2016 at 11:22 AM

    Ed…I am beginning to hope someone else snaps up Austin and that he fails miserably!

    …and I’ll gloat believe you me 😉

  • 37 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 3, 2016 at 11:23 AM

    Ideally we need 2 players in by the Man U game at a minimum. The sooner the better. It will take a lot of work to convince top level players to come and join given how we have performed the last few years though.

  • 38 ilovetoon8788 // Jan 3, 2016 at 11:24 AM

    It’s about time we stop talking about how ”unlucky” we are. We are in deep deep trouble after this defeat. Anything less than a bare minimum of 3 points in the next 2 games, and the 17th place will be out of sight. I’d say if we don’t get 3 points in our next 2 games, we are going down. There’s no 2 ways about it.

    we can go on talking about how ”unlucky” we are and we SHOULD have won etc etc.

  • 39 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 3, 2016 at 11:24 AM

    Stokes and Birstow 300 run partnership

  • 40 geordieboy83 // Jan 3, 2016 at 11:25 AM


    Don’t think people are criticising Perez overall display, just he was at fault for the goal conceded that’s all. Mitrovic that chance off his thigh I don’t think he could’ve done muchore to be honest. The ball was at a horrible height and hit with a fair bit of pace at him.

    As a short term how about huntelaar for up top I can dream. Also whilst on schalke whatever happened to Jefferson farfAn

  • 41 Belfast // Jan 3, 2016 at 11:36 AM

    Jail was that you suggesting the true Geordie videos might be all scripted ?? Surely not.. 🙂

    I bet he doesn’t make any money out of it either…

  • 42 angelswithdirtyfaces // Jan 3, 2016 at 11:43 AM

    True Geordie’s ‘critiques’ should be played to the players, management and owner – and maybe the penny will finally drop as to what we expect.

  • 43 Transfer Sage // Jan 3, 2016 at 11:48 AM


    Yeh South Africa are missing a few, this bowling attack is weak but it’s still an amazing effort isn’t it.

    I think with cricket all test sides (except the likes of Bangladesh) have equally as talented players, just some sides have more consistent players than others.


    Imagine of Austin joins palace and gets Pardew’s boys into the top 4. Imagine the articles then….and the fighting on here.

  • 44 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 3, 2016 at 11:50 AM

    It’s a bad job when the manager can’t see that Mbemba and Colo are incompatible. Both need a big powerful centre back to play alongside. Someone of Lascelles’ physique.

    Also, Colo is finished. He’s 34 in three weeks. Ask Gary Neville and Alan Shearer what happens at that age.

  • 45 nightfa11 // Jan 3, 2016 at 11:50 AM

    Jetro, chaka and remy on loan..

  • 46 Jib // Jan 3, 2016 at 11:52 AM

    Unfortunately I’m cursed with a really good memory.

    I recalled this article about another Perez we were linked with last March.

    His contract is owned by Greek side PAOK (they paid €700,000 for him ! ) and on loan to Depor back in his homeland.

    He is a right-winger/ striker and guess what ?

    He is is 3rd highest scorer in La Liga this season behind Suarez and Ronaldo ahead of Messi and Neymar !

  • 47 sparky55 // Jan 3, 2016 at 11:52 AM

    There’s no doubt the fat tw@t that owns our club is the main root of problems that plagues our once great club…along with the idiotic transfer policy he’s imposed on the club strangling it even more…but the single biggest problem we have at our club at this precise moment in time is our head coach…he’s a muppet of the highest order and the professionals in the game who have said “great No 2 but not so great a no 1” are bang on the money.

    He freezes on the touchline and you can see by the look on his face he’s lost in the moment…he can’t work out what to do next…he can’t work out when to stick or when to twist or to change things round…he sticks with his favourites just like the last muppet.

    When you go 1-0 down in the 72nd minute to Arsenal away from home you don’t bring on a sub in the 87th minute FFS…he’s a fcuking liability and even if Mashley spent 100 million in the Jan window, he’d be giving it to the wrong man to manage.

    My point is simple you fat cnut…spend the money and change the manager…it’s you’re only chance of keeping your dirty money grabbing hands on the sky loot.

  • 48 sparky55 // Jan 3, 2016 at 11:55 AM

    and Ashley being Ashley and our position being as perilous as it is, don’t expect big sums of money being spent in this window…he’ll be chasing as many loan agreements as he can so he doesn’t lose 20 million in fire sale transfers when we go down in May.

  • 49 toonking // Jan 3, 2016 at 11:55 AM

    The last thing I expect to see on the blog is cricket, it’s a good job our toon not about he’d be going loopey over all this cricket chat was a massive stress head when the blog was chatting about fury’s boxing match.

    perhaps i should divert over to cricket even these test matches appear more entertaining that football.

  • 50 nightfa11 // Jan 3, 2016 at 11:57 AM

    Sparky.. Loan move is probably what players who are thinking of joining us want also..good players dont want Coca cola league..

  • 51 Jib // Jan 3, 2016 at 11:59 AM

    I think England may declare at Tea now that Bairstow has his ton.

  • 52 sparky55 // Jan 3, 2016 at 12:00 PM

    nightfall…good point…moving up North ain’t ever easy irrespective of where we are in the league but moving up North for 4 months staring relegation in the face makes that decision an awful lot harder.

  • 53 stuart no9 // Jan 3, 2016 at 12:01 PM

    i dont think we played bad , we had good shape , we looked like a football team who knew what they were doing, in mostb parts anyway , but get to that 18 and for some reason we freeze, what is it ?? the mindset has to come from the manager , what is he saying or doing wrong ?? just a thought that AC would fit nicely in our team at the minute . balls are coming into the box looking for a big man , playing wide down both flanks , and we do that very well at times , would suite the big fellow down to the ground or up in the air whatever way you want to look at it

  • 54 welshgeordie9 // Jan 3, 2016 at 12:04 PM

    I’ve said it once and i will say it again the true geordie is a legend, have any of you seen him around in Newcastle.

  • 55 nightfa11 // Jan 3, 2016 at 12:05 PM

    Its a really tough window.. The only way we could attract top players now, are either loan moves (players who are at top clubs But are not getting game time-its euro season) , millions of pounds or getting in a top manager all players respect and want to play for..

    New manager would be best But loan is realistic..

  • 56 Klatoon // Jan 3, 2016 at 12:05 PM

    Our struggles in attack are stemming from Dummets limited ability on the ball. His lack of technique and vision coupled with Ginis disposition to drift infield makes our LW useless ! The sooner we get Haidara or Aarons (or both) into the team th better. Players like Mitro and Gini will thrive from having a playet that can whip a cross in at pace.

  • 57 welshgeordie9 // Jan 3, 2016 at 12:06 PM

    So if we are struggling to get championship players in then how the hell are we going to get top quality players to help us to survive.

  • 58 SuperShearer // Jan 3, 2016 at 12:09 PM

    Does anyone else think our injury list is a HUGE part of the problem? It’s not that we’re missing key players but by having so many out we are lacking that competition for places. Central midfield know they’re going to get picked because there’s little else we can do, same with defence, and arguably wingers. Only position that we seem to have competition is up top and none of our strikers are really doing the job we need.

  • 59 welshgeordie9 // Jan 3, 2016 at 12:10 PM

    How’s the cricket going, has Darren Gough got his century yet.

  • 60 toonking // Jan 3, 2016 at 12:11 PM

    nice drop by south africa.

  • 61 nightfa11 // Jan 3, 2016 at 12:18 PM

    We’re lucky its euro wont give us transfers(cos good players who play for their teams wont do anything to ruin their chances and theres also a matter of our league position) , But players want to play as much as possible.. And good players who dont play as much as they need to be picked for euros or get in form for euros will be willing to join..

  • 62 nightfa11 // Jan 3, 2016 at 12:19 PM

    * Willing to join on loan 🙂

  • 63 Jib // Jan 3, 2016 at 12:23 PM

    As soon as they lost the 6th wicket England declared

  • 64 Moonraker15 // Jan 3, 2016 at 12:27 PM

    Ed, how was Charlie Austin overpriced at £15m when he would have scored the goals to put us in a safe position or better. We reputedly paid £14m for Thauvin!
    We are not in a position to get bargains; we need to splash the cash urgently otherwise we are relegated and could be down got years!
    I’m baffled by McClaren’s comments that the strikers “will score eventually”!
    No they won’t ! We need new blood fast !

  • 65 Moonraker15 // Jan 3, 2016 at 12:30 PM

    You can get almost anyone to sign ! You just have to pay good wages!

  • 66 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 3, 2016 at 12:32 PM

    If the TOON sign big IF Austin for £15 million and he scores a dozen goals to keep us up – then money well spent

  • 67 Moonraker15 // Jan 3, 2016 at 12:33 PM

    Agree totally with you about the true Geordie! I just wish Ashley, Charnley and SMC see his posts! Brilliant !

  • 68 vipgreek // Jan 3, 2016 at 12:39 PM

    Get it through all your thickheads we wont be able to avoid the drop as we need players that wont be signed.
    While the Newcastle Hierarchy tries to barter for players other clubs will come in and say how much is your asking price , the other club will say 15 million , and the Club looking for the player to sign will say need to avoid the drop sounds fair , heres the money thank you .
    Then Ashley will call the club and say instead of 15 mil will you take 8 million and the other clubs board will say sorry we just sold him for the price we were asking for thank you anyways have a nice day in the Championship next year.

  • 69 Jib // Jan 3, 2016 at 12:58 PM

    I didn’t quite get that through my thick head.
    Do you think you could run it past us again with smaller and shorter words .

  • 70 bladeuser // Jan 3, 2016 at 1:05 PM

    I am one of colos biggest critics let’s b serious his legs have gone it happens to us all having said that Dummet is the main problem he is a shocking Lb cannot tackle dives in cannot pick out a pass all he does is hoofs the ball aimlessly up the line to the opposition colo will not be dropped but Dummet should be he is a liability
    SHEEP ? Out

  • 71 Mister Tuff // Jan 3, 2016 at 1:22 PM

    Jib – any updates on that Spanish bloke you told us about that we were interested in any that you provided some links.
    Oh – just remembered he turned out to be a marathon runner and not a footballer – what a knacker.
    Jib – you need to change your game – ladies wrestling or netball would be good outlets for you.
    What a knacker!

  • 72 Jib // Jan 3, 2016 at 1:24 PM

    The real reason Pardew joined CP

  • 73 Jib // Jan 3, 2016 at 1:31 PM

    Mr Tuff
    Nearly right
    It was International weekend and Perez was back in the Canaries and a marathon was run that weekend. I spotted the name A.Perez as a runner and added 2 and 2 and got 5.
    I don’t know if you realised that it was the real Ayoze that corrected my stupid mistake.

  • 74 welshgeordie9 // Jan 3, 2016 at 1:40 PM

    Stuck record springs to mind.

  • 75 welshgeordie9 // Jan 3, 2016 at 1:42 PM

    Nice women there jib, we have got those on here but a different kind.

    Ha ha ha

  • 76 welshgeordie9 // Jan 3, 2016 at 1:43 PM

    Will there be any goals in palace match today.

  • 77 BandB // Jan 3, 2016 at 1:43 PM

    I think the top 10 is pretty much gone now. The minimum target for the season season out of reach by the turn of the year.
    Once it gets to the end of January, a 10 point cushion is almost impossible to fritter away, even with the awful trots we have gone on in the past. And a fair few more teams could have a 10 point cushion over us by the end of the month than now. Take out the widely unexpected six points against Liverpool and Spurs out, and we would be as good as relegated now. That’s how precarious it is. The hard maths are against us and every “how did we lose that!” performance makes things harder.
    This window SHOULD be the one that finally shows beyond any room for further debate whether Ashley intends to build a top eight team or whether he is happy with one that can finish 15th, 16th, 17th on pleasingly rewarding margins.

  • 78 optimistic prime // Jan 3, 2016 at 1:48 PM


    I’ve been looking foward to this window since the end of the last.
    I wrote the summer one off as Steeve hadn’t had chance to decide what he needed 😉 , he’s had plenty time now and I want to see if a) we get anyone b) will they be Steeves or Carrs.

    Very interesting month, I’ve a feeling it could end up being like watching paint dry.

  • 79 welshgeordie9 // Jan 3, 2016 at 1:51 PM

    Nothing wrong watching paint dry.

  • 80 welshgeordie9 // Jan 3, 2016 at 1:52 PM

    Besides we have got to sign players, got no choice.

  • 81 BandB // Jan 3, 2016 at 1:55 PM


    I think they’ll try to make adjustments on the basis of trying to get us out of trouble now. The hope will be that McClaren will get off to a better start next season after a summer clear-out and some spending they envisage will keep us safely in line with Swansea and West Brom.
    There is nothing at all in Ashley’s track record anywhere to suggest that value for money to him means anything other than most profit for least outlay.

  • 82 optimistic prime // Jan 3, 2016 at 1:57 PM

    I hope Ashley got that memo

  • 83 hibbitt // Jan 3, 2016 at 2:00 PM

    welshgeodie9……….spot on the tv monies are at risk nowt to do with football he has no choice but he is a gambler so choice goes out the window

  • 84 Our Toon // Jan 3, 2016 at 2:02 PM

    Cracking innings by Stokes, rather enjoyed watching hin rip that attack apart.

    On football matters, I do think Perez was at fault for the goal but he shouldn’t have been on the wing to start with. I like Perez but at the moment I’d like to see thauvin given a couple of starts and getting the crosses whipped in.

    As for signings I find myself agreeing with LG and James toon, someone with a bit of pace is needed but what does that then say to Perez?

    Plenty still wanting Austin which is laughable, a player on the treatment table isn’t going to help you on the pitch. I really hope Palace do get him…..good goal by Oscar as well

  • 85 Jail for Ashley // Jan 3, 2016 at 2:06 PM

    No I don’t think it’s scripted just ranting of the highest quality, I would place him at the top of his game in the ranting ratings.
    I’m afraid it’s gone to far now to show what Ashleys intentions are judged on this window, surely he knows he has to spend big to avoid the drop, so it won’t be possible to say he he has done it to build on. I think most of us knew that Mclaren was only ever hired to keep us around tenth and won’t ever be fired for not meeting his supposed target of eighth.

  • 86 Jib // Jan 3, 2016 at 2:07 PM


    (as many surmise on here)

    Ashley’s motive for ownership of NUFC is as an advertising vehicle for SD , then being a yo yo club gives a club as much TV coverage as a top 5 one.

    I always thought a main objection against the argument of his contentment with mid table mediocrity was mid table teams get less coverage.

    Come to think of it there is a lot of False Dichotomy on this blog.

  • 87 Jail for Ashley // Jan 3, 2016 at 2:17 PM

    Wrong again, hundreds of millions of people watch PL games only hundreds of thousands if that watch Championship games. And what other reason does he own us for, a hobby?

  • 88 optimistic prime // Jan 3, 2016 at 2:19 PM

    Can’t say I’m massively optimistic we’ll sign anyone, De ja vue.

    We’ve been here a few times before under Ashley and except once we did nothing. I’m pretty sure he wasn’t happy with the deals for the 5 musketeers and their overall contribution that season.

    We hear it a lot “there’s no good deals in jan”, I honestly don’t expect anyone, if we signed a player of quality I’d go to the docs for my head checked.

  • 89 BandB // Jan 3, 2016 at 2:19 PM


    Remember all the complaints about mid-table mediocrity being the aim?
    It was never the aim.
    One might almost think we were 10 points off target. But we are only two…so there will be no panic. If the people we want are available at the right price, we will go for them.

  • 90 Jail for Ashley // Jan 3, 2016 at 2:23 PM

    One of the biggest arguments put forward by Ashleys rapidly decreasing supporters was that a successful NUFC would look better for his tat shop, like I’ve said many times before that god awful advert on SSN proves beyond doubt his cheap shite doesn’t need to be associated with class to sell cheap socks.

  • 91 Jail for Ashley // Jan 3, 2016 at 2:27 PM

    So rigid is their policy I bet if the valuation, what ever it is of Sissoko or Perez were to be met they would be sold.

  • 92 Jib // Jan 3, 2016 at 2:29 PM

    I was at fault for using the term yoyo.
    I meant teams that flirt with the bottom of the table not teams that drop and come back up.

  • 93 toon22 // Jan 3, 2016 at 2:30 PM

    We might be in the perfect possition to get rid of Mashley,looks like he needs to spend big to keep us in the league.
    So its going to cost a whole lot more,something he loves.
    So he either spends big and gambles it works or he dont and gambles we stay up.
    Itll cost him either way.

    In the end the cost will out weigh the benefits leaving him wanting to sell,for those who say there aint buyers id say one of the top 20 clubs is a decent proposition to lots of people.

  • 94 Jib // Jan 3, 2016 at 2:32 PM

    He uses different production values for different products.
    His fire trap advert is totally different and appeals to a different sector,

  • 95 geordie157 // Jan 3, 2016 at 2:34 PM

    An Austin move to Palace makes sense, they need goals, he gets to stay in London.

    Not sure who we can get to be honest.

    Definitely think we should test Spurs resolve and either big for Ben Davies or take him on loan until the summer.

    Davies lb with Thauvin lw = crosses for Mitro and finally gives us some balance down that wing.

  • 96 posada // Jan 3, 2016 at 2:36 PM

    News gossip has it that Loic Remy is leaving Chelsea.
    We should get him whatever the price.
    Goals, power, pace, can play in a front two or any of the front three roles in a 433.
    All the things we don’t have.

  • 97 catchy in norway // Jan 3, 2016 at 2:37 PM


    its kind of a weak argument to say he only spent to keep us around 10th, it fits your argument though.

    do you think that they went out and searched for players that are only so so in where they where playing?? i dont, not for one minute did they do that, they went and bought quality players that where ( Thuavan not so) doing very well in the positions and the league they played in, and to be fair to Thuavan, not a word from thi kid in a negative way, just got his head down and seems to have trained harder and is pushing for a first team spot. SDJ was the captain of Ajax when we bought him, Anita was in the national squad for Holland, a lot of the players we sing are top quality and for what ever reason we seem to play most of them out of the position that made them the player which attracted us to them in the first place.

    Now im looking at our team selections and game tactics rather than looking at the players, as I can see that the players have huge steps forward in how we play the game, we pass and move, we play very well against the top teams as we seem to go at them for more of the game, but something is different when we play any of the teams around us, and it can only be Mac has them playing more cautious against the teams where it is deemed 6 pointers, us or them, and he gives up a lot of the game we seem them play against the so called big teams.

    And before Any of the P45 fan club come out and say well P45 did well against the big clubs, he never beat any of them by playing football, most of the games won were donated to us from wonder goals are us,

  • 98 BandB // Jan 3, 2016 at 2:42 PM


    People seeking qualification of what the “new leaf” meant in terms of transfer policy and other key issues at the FF were constantly referred to minutes pre-dating May 2015 and told the policy remained unaltered. The Charnley Doctrine appears entirely unchanged from when it was laid out two years ago.
    There was always a clause for “exceptional circumstances.”
    Though we shouldn’t forget that in the last set of exceptional circumstances, the four players bought were merely “brought forward” and to prove it we signed no-one else for 18 months afterwards.
    We will not be ripping up the rule book.
    Two things have definitely changed. Ashley “has taken a step back” (from criticism) and the head coach isn’t allowed to answer questions about transfers.
    Two moves aimed at further repression of information and avoidance of dissent, both dressed as reform.

  • 99 Jib // Jan 3, 2016 at 2:46 PM

    I think Loic Remy must be going somewhere.
    I’ve just checked and he’s not even a sub against Palace

  • 100 Jail for Ashley // Jan 3, 2016 at 2:48 PM

    Don’t worry about it, the blog is entirely used to you being at fault now. On firetrap, we are not widely associated with the brand so your point is moot.

  • 101 posada // Jan 3, 2016 at 2:49 PM

    They end up playing out of position because we should decide how we want to play and then buy players that fit that way.
    Anita – ideal for playing in a three man midfield, sitting centrally infront of the CBs. As Barry played for Everton.
    But we don’t play that way.
    The lad actually questioned this before we signed him. He explained that was his game.
    He’s at the club two minutes and plays anything but.

  • 102 BandB // Jan 3, 2016 at 2:51 PM


    Perfect technique in that forward defensive, but all three stumps still skittled.
    We are indeed looking up.
    At the rest of the league.

  • 103 posada // Jan 3, 2016 at 2:51 PM

    I hope its us. It would make all the difference.

  • 104 Jib // Jan 3, 2016 at 2:51 PM

    B and B

    Rather than repression to silence dissent I believe them when they maintain too many times journos leaks have scuppered transfers,

    Again more false dichotomy.

    Why would the club who couldn’t give a fig about opinion (allegedly) be focused on silencing dissent ?

  • 105 Jail for Ashley // Jan 3, 2016 at 2:54 PM

    They keep buying players with perceived sell on value whether they suit the managers style or not and that’s why mediocre managers are keep being hired, because they’ll put up with it. No matter how big of a fan of Mclaren you are you have to admit he’s nothing more than mediocre at best and has the worst form of 2015 of any other employed manager in the world.

  • 106 Jib // Jan 3, 2016 at 2:54 PM

    He was always called a mercenary when here the last time , that’s fair enough for me.
    He’s got the chance to make himself a big chunk of money and do us a good turn at the same time.

  • 107 BandB // Jan 3, 2016 at 2:57 PM

    Why Jib, because the creeping assertion that the club doesn’t give a fig about opinion died the day Ashley hired a crisis management guru.
    Other clubs are considerably more frank about their transfer dealings, which are usually a good deal more swift and efficacious than our own.
    Our smokescreens are often designed to give the impression something is going on, when nothing is.

  • 108 AncientC // Jan 3, 2016 at 2:59 PM

    I noticed SD shares were mentioned earlier.

    Here is an interesting one… what would happen to the value of SD shares if:

    A. SD advertising is removed from St James’ park, and a paying advertiser put in place – whilst the club survives

    B. SD advertising stays in place, but the club sinks to the championship and struggles to get back into the Premier League at first attempt.

    C. A combination of the club being relegated and SD being asked to pay for advertising or it going to a paying advertiser.

    Considering that SD shares value is directly attributed to the money coming from the paying Newcastle fan, the above seem legitimate questions.

  • 109 Moonraker15 // Jan 3, 2016 at 3:02 PM

    There is a direct comparison between success and effective marketing, that is obvious. To suggest that Ashley doesn’t mind being down the bottom is ludicrous albeit their is plenty of local news when we are there but not so much national and virtually NO international.
    Can you imagine the marketing spin-off if Ashley owned the Entertainers of the 90’s? The daft thing is, if he appointed the right people to run it we could be hugely successful.
    Come to think of it he did try bringing back KK but he didn’t know that Kev has to have all his own way, so it blew up in his face. Trouble is that now he has the yes men he doesn’t have the knowledge!
    Will he see the light cos he has a huge investment and even billionaires don’t like losing hundreds of millions !!!

  • 110 kelykos // Jan 3, 2016 at 4:24 PM

    My priorities are a LB, CM and CDM. Dummett is not good enough. Our midfield is not strong enough, Anita and Colback do what they can, but physically and technically, they are below average. They don’t win us enough ball and their passing is rarely impressive.

  • 111 beefman13 // Jan 4, 2016 at 1:13 AM

    “Mike” just how do we make our own luck! If you know, I think we better get a move on eh.

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