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Newcastle To Pay Out £18M For This Player – Don’t Be Daft

9:08 am, Tuesday, January 5th, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 111 Comments

The press in London are reporting that West Ham have placed a fee of £18M on the head of Andy Carroll, the former Newcastle United striker and it’s thought that Sunderland and Newcastle are both interested.

They report that Sam Allardyce would like to get Andy playing for him again, this time at the Black Cats, but it is thought Andy may prefer a move back to his former cub Newcastle.

The truth is there’s no way on earth that Andy would be seen dead in the red and white striped shirt – playing for Sunderland.


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Andy Carroll – in his heyday at Newcastle

And maybe he would prefer Newcastle because he just happens to be a born and bred Geordie who will support Newcastle United for the rest of his life.

In short – that’s due to the Geordie DNA he was born with.

But £18M for a player who picks up so many injuries is not a good deal, although Andy, who turns 27 tomorrow, has shown that when he does play he can be a match-winner – as he’s proved in the last two games for West Ham United.

Andy is still one of the best headers in the game and he also has a good left-foot.

We’d be more than a little surprised if Newcastle have any interest in bringing Andy back on Tyneside this month.

We would not be very surprised if Sunderland want him at the Stadium of Light, but there’s just no way Andy would want to play for Sunderland.

It would be like Alan Shearer signing for Sunderland.

It’s an oxymoron.

Comments welcome.

Tags: Andy Carroll · Recruitment · Transfer News and Rumours · Transfer Target

111 responses so far ↓

  • 1 jazzyp // Jan 5, 2016 at 9:11 AM


  • 2 lesh // Jan 5, 2016 at 9:14 AM

    As time goes by, it’s becoming more and more apparent that the Club’s current plight is not the result of incompetence but design.

    For all Ashley said he’d be a hands-off owner, he goes to matches and must be aware if the mess we’re in and must therefore be content with the likelihood of relegation.

    He could, if he wanted success for the Club, act to remedy the way it’s been and continues to be run by the so-called football board. Have those men got no personal pride, no self-respect? Apparently not.

    By his actions, it’s clear that Ashley’s determined to run Newcastle United into the ground. What drives the man? Spite? Hatred of the Club’s fans, the City? Does he draw pleasure from being despised?

    Anticipate the fans’ simmering anger to boil over; anticipate protests; anticipate relegation.

  • 3 hibbitt // Jan 5, 2016 at 9:16 AM

    just like yourself jib ANONYMOUS

  • 4 Jib // Jan 5, 2016 at 9:19 AM

    Your snidey little dig on the previous shows you up to be no true fan.

    While you take a quiet satisfaction in our plight I watched the game again yesterday in its entirety on the French channel Canal Plus Sport .The French commentators were drooling over some of our play.

    There was an 18 minute period just before half-time when we were running the game and Arsenal were running around like headless chickens and getting the bird off their own fans .
    In that period if Gini had a cooler head and not snatched his shot we would have done the Gooners easy.

  • 5 WWSBRD // Jan 5, 2016 at 9:22 AM

    If he could stay fit he’d be worth it

  • 6 reilly // Jan 5, 2016 at 9:22 AM

    spot on lesh.
    if ashley wanted the club to be a success it would be he has the wealth to make it happen,but he dosnt want that he wants the club to splutter along on the bare minimum to promote SD.
    sir john hall told us all what ashley wanted the club for.

  • 7 WWSBRD // Jan 5, 2016 at 9:23 AM

    So not so upbeat anymore then?

  • 8 Wayayman // Jan 5, 2016 at 9:23 AM

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it agin.

    All of our current problems stem from one bloke at the club. Not the owner – although the buck really stops with him for appointing this knacker- but Lee Charnley.
    The fella is out of his depth and doesn’t seem to get the club or the football business at all. As Ashley stated in the summer, Charnley is responsible for the running of the club, appointing managers (80 odd applicants? What ‘kin planet is he on?!?) and player recruitment.

    A committed, business savvy MD which understands how the business of football works is absolutely VITAL if we are to stop this cycle of relegation threatened football and fan hostility.
    There are talented, young and ambitious people out thee who could be amazing in the job. Sam Rush at Derby hasn’t done too badly. He Peddled Nigel Clough the minute he got appointed (a fan’s favourite) then brought in Macca to progress. Once it was clear that he couldnt take them to the next level he sacked him and made an ambitious, long-sighted appointment which looks like it is stating to pay off.
    Someone with that sort of knowledge of the game and vision, plus the balls to pull it off is who we really need to sign.

    Carrying on with Charnley only means more terrible appointments in the future and us spiralling out of control.

  • 9 jayphoto // Jan 5, 2016 at 9:32 AM

    If he could stay fit hes worth more than that. Problem is the guy doesn’t train or live that well and plays a combative style that will see him pick up injuries.
    Add to that we have the worst record of keeping players fit…
    Would have to be a loan to buy depending on stsying up surely

  • 10 Jib // Jan 5, 2016 at 9:36 AM

    He started at West Ham on a years loan from Liverpool.
    £2million fee and WH paid his £80,000 a week wages.

  • 11 lesh // Jan 5, 2016 at 9:37 AM


    Charnley is out of his depth – that’s why Ashley stays with him and his so-called football board who wouldn’t last five minutes in a well-run business.

    But Ashley does nothing about it. Why?

    Because it suits his purpose and they’re doing a splendid job for him!

  • 12 anthc // Jan 5, 2016 at 9:37 AM

    Sorry but no way is Carroll worth 18 million!
    7-8 million maybe but that’s it. He’ll not move and happily see out his ridiculously inflated salaried contract at whu and who could blame him. Football’s a job too and his wages will set up his grand kids for life nevermind his own kids!

  • 13 Jib // Jan 5, 2016 at 9:37 AM

    Still upbeat.
    There is absolutely no way that NUFC team is being relegated.

  • 14 WWSBRD // Jan 5, 2016 at 9:41 AM

    They could continue to lose, that’s a way they could get relegated

  • 15 lochinvar // Jan 5, 2016 at 9:41 AM

    Carrol for £6m and Shelvey for £12m is £18m better spent and leaves Pardew to take Remy and any other London boys looking for a pay check.

  • 16 WWSBRD // Jan 5, 2016 at 9:43 AM

    Oh and are u willing to explain what has u so upbeat now? Or are we going to fly off the handle again?

  • 17 NezzaNUFC // Jan 5, 2016 at 9:46 AM

    I knew it wouldn’t take long!

  • 18 WWSBRD // Jan 5, 2016 at 9:49 AM

    Can we not have Remy, Shelvey and Austin for 2-4 mill more? Doesn’t seem out of reach for one of the top 20 richest clubs in the world plus u know we have 50 mill to spend don’t we?

  • 19 Rotonda heights // Jan 5, 2016 at 9:49 AM

    Great unemployed people


    Does Charmless or Ash even know either of them. Oh for a maverick, radical departure from the mind numbing not so safe pair of hands we always go for.

  • 20 catchy in norway // Jan 5, 2016 at 9:50 AM


    be that as it may, try telling the other clubs in L1 that he is not on fire, it could be that the kid exploded on the scene and clubs were unaware of him or his potential, they got wise and started to double up on him making space a little bit harder to find.

    put him in a better team with more threats in it, he will find more space and also create more space for others in the team, scoring in 9 out his 22 games is still a very good return, better than we have right now at the club..


  • 21 lesh // Jan 5, 2016 at 9:56 AM


    What makes you think Ashley’s committed £50m a window?

    They’ve said repeatedly that they don’t do Januarys – unless they’re selling of course!

    I’ve no doubt that Ashley agreed to spend £50m this year but the strange thing is, they’ve spent it all, leaving nothing in reserve to cater for contingencies like getting the Club up the table!

  • 22 hibbitt // Jan 5, 2016 at 10:00 AM

    next headline……………….carroll set to join palace

  • 23 WWSBRD // Jan 5, 2016 at 10:04 AM

    Well a few jumped on a McClaren 150 mill over 3 windows comment, works out at 50 mill per window…apparently he said it a few times (never believed it personally but time will tell)

    As for Jan windows they do them only if they have to but again time will tell, if they do nothing again though we are championship bound

  • 24 Toonfan8 // Jan 5, 2016 at 10:05 AM

    why everybody think Rafa Benitez is great? He sucks at Inter, Napoli and now at Real Madrid, where he had better players in the team…just bring Remy,Shelvey,Willems and see what SMC can do…

  • 25 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 5, 2016 at 10:06 AM

    Suppose you owned 100% of a company A and 50% of company B, Jib owning the other 50%. If company provided services worth £10m to company B, you’d want £10m wouldn’t you? If you provide the service free, Jib will benefit to the tune of £5m via his company value.

  • 26 Jib // Jan 5, 2016 at 10:07 AM

    Some may want to save this

    Credit to the NUFC London Supporters Club

  • 27 lesh // Jan 5, 2016 at 10:09 AM


    Sorry for not making myself clear, I omitted to mention £150m over three years – or £50m each year and thus another £50m in each of the next two years’ summer windows.

  • 28 OneAlanShearer // Jan 5, 2016 at 10:12 AM

    I’d buy carroll for 10 million max but start with a 6 million offer. Shelvey is a must sign….name me someone else who fits that position we need that we could sign?

  • 29 lesh // Jan 5, 2016 at 10:12 AM


    If the Chronicle’s right, you can forget Willems – he’s injured.

    Then when it comes to the summer, well be in the Championship and he and anybody else of any note wouldn’t be interested in coming to Ashley’s version of a football club.

  • 30 lesh // Jan 5, 2016 at 10:15 AM


  • 31 WWSBRD // Jan 5, 2016 at 10:16 AM

    That was my issue with the whole thing there was no clarification to his comment much like everything that comes out of the club people can take it multiple ways

    Could of been windows could of been years could of been over SM career with us who knows

    I do recall being told multiple times that it was 50mill per window though and since that’s what we now need might as well hold them to account for their bs one more time mate

  • 32 expatmag // Jan 5, 2016 at 10:17 AM


    I would happily settle for a 68% win rate at Newcastle at the moment.

    Wouldnt you?

  • 33 lesh // Jan 5, 2016 at 10:17 AM


    Your analogy of NUFC/ MASH (SD) with your companies A and B couldn’t be more succinct.

  • 34 Jib // Jan 5, 2016 at 10:19 AM

    Willems WAS badly injured in the late Summer
    That’s why he was able to visit SJP so much.
    He has joined PSV’s winter training camp in Malta and has started light training.

  • 35 lesh // Jan 5, 2016 at 10:20 AM


    Ambiguity is the way PR works, is the way Ashley works before he inflicts the fatal move!

  • 36 croftus5678 // Jan 5, 2016 at 10:21 AM

    the media really is making life hard at nufc isnt it lol.

    i can see a lot of fans having a good old cry if/when we dont get a certain striker or a certain cb or even a certain cm and thats if we are after them in the first place as we have had chance to agree who’s best for our team based on what the media has told us we can get.

    i expect bargains myself tbh a bargain cb and a bargain striker wether they will be higher profile bargains we will wait to see.

  • 37 Jib // Jan 5, 2016 at 10:21 AM

    anyone else think Lesh thinks succinct means apt or appropriate ?

  • 38 WWSBRD // Jan 5, 2016 at 10:24 AM

    Depressing isn’t it but as long as people eat up this PR it works

  • 39 stuart no9 // Jan 5, 2016 at 10:24 AM

    on sky this morning jose struggling to get a job – man u- real madrid dont seem to fancy him – but he does have a bit of soft spot for the toon. cum-on please , even untill the end of season chuck mucka oot, lets have a proper manager to save the club, pay him what he wants coz if ash dosnt , hes going to pay for it at the end of season. then at least we are safe and take it from there. sence or not lads ??

  • 40 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 5, 2016 at 10:24 AM

    Is there any player out there who’s a modern day Craig Bellamy?

  • 41 Toonfan8 // Jan 5, 2016 at 10:28 AM

    everywhere where he had been, players were upset with him, Real,Napoli,Inter

  • 42 expatmag // Jan 5, 2016 at 10:31 AM

    Fcuk the players

    Look at what he has won

  • 43 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 5, 2016 at 10:31 AM

    Too succinct. I missed out “A” in the second sentence. I meant: If company A provided services worth £10m to company B, you’d want company A to receive £10m from company B, wouldn’t you? If not Jib’s 50% shareholding in company B would benefit to the tune of £5m.

  • 44 hibbitt // Jan 5, 2016 at 10:33 AM

    there’s not a hope in hell of us getting a manager like jose or rafa not a hope even if they offered to work for nowt

  • 45 Jib // Jan 5, 2016 at 10:35 AM

    There you go —- Blackley knows what “succinct” means – bless

  • 46 Toonfan8 // Jan 5, 2016 at 10:35 AM

    I know he is injured, but it was lined up in August, that Willems will come here, he was here at the match and tweeted that this is the future from SJP…we need Shelvey,Remy I think with them two, we will be much better….Willems is one for future and will have half a year to adapt to Brittish football…we need goals and Remy can score, he proved that here and we need creativity and Shelvey can do that…with these two we will be safe…then in summer bring strong/big CB, quick winger and holding midfielder…
    mf:anita,colback,thauvin,de jong, gouffran
    I think with this squad we will be safe this year…and players like mbemba,wijny,mitro,thauvin will be better next year with year in the premier league…

  • 47 WWSBRD // Jan 5, 2016 at 10:39 AM

    U still believe we have 50 mill to spend this window?

  • 48 Shot Bru // Jan 5, 2016 at 10:46 AM

    We need more creativity in the middle and out wide. A deep lying playmaker would be ideal in a midfield 3, with a couple of wingers supplying Mitrovic or Perez.

    The problem is we have no effective combinations throughout the team, especially in the wide areas.

    I suppose it takes time to coach and develop these areas of the team. Its time Wally and his team don’t have so I guess they might panic and go for Remy or Austin.

  • 49 Jib // Jan 5, 2016 at 10:47 AM

    We had nearly £70 million in the Summer war chest we spent nearly £40 million of that.
    The club likes to keep everything within an accounting year so I would guess approx £30 million .After Feb is new financial year so lots more next Summer.
    My opinion is rather than the scattergun approach of 5 for 6 or 6 for 5 , blow the lot on a worldy.

  • 50 Rotonda heights // Jan 5, 2016 at 10:49 AM


    Maybe it’s this

  • 51 WWSBRD // Jan 5, 2016 at 10:51 AM

    What happened to the 150 mill over 3 windows?

    Also lots more next summer will rely on what league we are in

  • 52 Rotonda heights // Jan 5, 2016 at 10:52 AM

    Think you’ll find Benitez was a god at Valencia and deeply loved at Anfield to name 2.

    Rafa has a root and branch approach and would sort us out from top to bottom.

    RM sacked Ancellotti after he won the CL so means sweet fa.

  • 53 croftus5678 // Jan 5, 2016 at 10:54 AM

    i’d take enrique on a free at lb just for a season or 2 to plug the gap for hairdryer.

    i’d take remi on loan also if the greedy git wont join full time as we will have cisse and arma coming into the team next season and gives a chance to river/siem to see if they stay or go this season.

    i’d shift sissy to lw if rolando is not fit and play thauvin at rw as he’s looked great in the 3 games he’s played for us there (1cup 2prem subs)

  • 54 croftus5678 // Jan 5, 2016 at 11:03 AM

    my team would look like


    2nd team


  • 55 Jib // Jan 5, 2016 at 11:09 AM

    The thick end of €40 million will activate quite a few release clauses round Europe.

  • 56 Belfast // Jan 5, 2016 at 11:17 AM

    Your fault Nezza.

    Same story every single window.
    90 grand a week and West Ham wanting silly money for him. Never ever going to happen.

  • 57 BandB // Jan 5, 2016 at 11:18 AM

    Players like this can be available for nothing if you know where to look.

    Still, he didn’t score and should really have played a safe pass to Colback before jogging back to cover his full back,

    Fat greedy chump.

  • 58 Belfast // Jan 5, 2016 at 11:23 AM

    Wouldn’t rule out Sunderland paying stupid money for him though. You’d hope he’d tell them to f off but another 5 year contract on the same dosh and he could be tempted.

  • 59 beermonkey // Jan 5, 2016 at 11:47 AM


    how do you know we had a summer warchest of £70mill
    most numbers u see on here were 50

  • 60 Jib // Jan 5, 2016 at 11:48 AM

    Although they seem to overlap Allardyce hasn’t had too much to do with Carroll.

    When they were at NUFC together Carroll was on loan to Preston most of the time.

    When West Ham bought him it was the board rather than Fat Sam that did it. For most of SA’s time at West Ham AC was in the treatment room.

  • 61 jim // Jan 5, 2016 at 11:50 AM

    Ide take Carroll n Remy as our new front line in a heatbeat-with Ayoze to rotate n Mitro-with Arrons on his way back and Wiijinaldum in the number 10 role all we would need is to buy a decent defender or 2 after buying Carroll-outlay 30/35 million?

  • 62 Rotonda heights // Jan 5, 2016 at 11:51 AM

    It’s funny SAF could handle Cantona, Howard wilkinson couldn’t. AP couldn’t handle tevez and Ben Arfa, others could. Playing someone on a plastic pitch in sub zero conditions for a full 90 mins after a 4 month injury lay off. Hmmmm. . . .
    Thank god our medical staff are now so cutting edge. Oh wait. . . . .

  • 63 Blofal // Jan 5, 2016 at 11:56 AM

    Given the money we would lose by being relegated it’s not daft at all.

    Carroll and Austin would cost $25 million and guarantee us to stay up.

    Small price to pay if you ask me.

  • 64 Rotonda heights // Jan 5, 2016 at 12:00 PM

    Carroll would just be our forward version of Saylor. Maybe Eva carneiro could do wonders but our clowns no chance before his hammy / ankle / knee went again.

    Again AC would be like Mitro, no service, no creativity from midfield to him and we’d just keep hoofing it all day long as we do now to a slightly taller target, with little end product.

    A 20 year old injury free AC yes. Now no way.
    Pace to get in behind, mobility and an ability to create something for yourself is obviously what we need, rather than a 2 goal in 20 games perma crock.

  • 65 Blofal // Jan 5, 2016 at 12:03 PM

    Carroll – $18m
    Austin – $7.5m
    Shelvey – $12m

    That is $37.5m for three premier league proven players. Less than we spent last summer and they are all young enough to still fit into Ashley’s criteria.

  • 66 expatmag // Jan 5, 2016 at 12:03 PM


    Like I said a couple of threads back, this club is rotten to the core, run by a bunch of numpties with little or no idea of football and relying on mates to help them out. It has been happening for the best part of 9 years now and on several occasions, we have been fortunate to stay up (swansea beating Wigan and WHU not turning up).

    This season, we will not be do lucky and when we do go down, I hope the fat twat will be found hanging from the Tyne bridge by his “buster browns” for the recklessness he has achieved to our once proud club.

  • 67 expatmag // Jan 5, 2016 at 12:07 PM


    Factor in the money for Cabella, Williamson and others that will probably go, that cost can be further reduced

  • 68 Blofal // Jan 5, 2016 at 12:07 PM

    Rotonda Carroll is lethal when he is fit and we can use him sparingly if we also bring in Austin. We have pace and mobility in Sissoko and Wijnaldum. We need players up front who are going to put away the chances they get. We are creating chances… we just aren’t converting them.

  • 69 NezzaNUFC // Jan 5, 2016 at 12:07 PM

    Didn’t Newcastle spend 52 million in the last window?

    Sub total maybe around the 60 mill mark with agents fees, sign on fees and training compensation fees and other contract fees per game.

    I personally think we won’t buy unless we sell and it could be hard to ship out the dead wood we’ve got considering dumb ass Lee will ask above the valuation of certain players.

    Oh and could you’s remove the thought of Carroll and Remy out of your minds because it ain’t going to happen no matter what delusional thoughts you’s have.

  • 70 Jib // Jan 5, 2016 at 12:09 PM

    Angers forward Abdoul Camara has signed for Derby County .
    I wonder if that’s because Chris Martin is coming to us ?

  • 71 NezzaNUFC // Jan 5, 2016 at 12:11 PM


    Wishful hiking mate and if only lol

  • 72 Rotonda heights // Jan 5, 2016 at 12:12 PM

    Blofal // Jan 5, 2016 at 12:07 PM

    ”Rotonda Carroll is lethal when he is fit”

    I rest my case.

  • 73 NezzaNUFC // Jan 5, 2016 at 12:12 PM

    Thinking not hiking lol

  • 74 Rotonda heights // Jan 5, 2016 at 12:13 PM

    Blofal why are you using $ signs

  • 75 BandB // Jan 5, 2016 at 12:14 PM

    Bigiramana extends Coventry loan deal until January 24, and Mowbray hopes to use the time to sign him on loan until the end of the season. Remember, he is named in our 25.
    Meanwhile Wolves are very keen to transfer Williamson, but talks are “at an early stage.”
    Williamson wants to go. Let’s hope we are not haggling over pennies just now, eh!

  • 76 beermonkey // Jan 5, 2016 at 12:15 PM


    carol has played around 110 times since he left us and scored 18 times he is neither lethal or fit

  • 77 Blofal // Jan 5, 2016 at 12:16 PM

    Rotonda I didn’t buy my Macbook in the UK so the keyboard doesn’t have pounds.

  • 78 Jib // Jan 5, 2016 at 12:18 PM

    expatmag // Like I said a couple of threads back, this club is rotten to the core, run by a bunch of numpties with little or no idea of football .

    Just because you repeat tripe doesn’t make it any less nonsensical.

    You’ve had too many walks in the Aussie Sun without a hat.

  • 79 Thump // Jan 5, 2016 at 12:18 PM

    Another window, another none story. Carroll can be a right handful on his day, but let’s be honest his injury record hardly makes for good reading.

    850 days injured, 230 games played, 105 missed through injury. That’s definitely not worth £18m.

  • 80 Rotonda heights // Jan 5, 2016 at 12:19 PM

    if we buy carroll we kind of deserve all we get. We have proven ourselves to be pretty stupid in a lot of things but £18M would top the lot.

    Paying back just over half what we sold him for maybe 10 games a season max if we’re lucky. If he wasn’t a geordie nobody would be making a fuss.

    We desperately need:-

    a top CB
    a top LB
    a top creative playmaker
    a top mobile pacy striker

    but most of all a top manager, ie Benitez, Sampauli, etc.

  • 81 optimistic prime // Jan 5, 2016 at 12:19 PM

    Carol and Austin, wow.

    Two perma crocs who are massively overated, I’d rather have Shola and Sammy back.

  • 82 WWSBRD // Jan 5, 2016 at 12:22 PM

    Mirallas, Shelvey, Austin, Townsend, Berahino, etc etc there’s quite a few available this window wonder what we will end up with

  • 83 AncientC // Jan 5, 2016 at 12:23 PM

    Nezza, the net spend on players was £52.6 million, as per Charley’s statement.

    It still does not hide the fact that 4 senior players were let go in the summer, with Wijnaldum the only senior signing out of the 4 recruits that came in.

  • 84 WWSBRD // Jan 5, 2016 at 12:23 PM

    Why is Austin a crock?

  • 85 Rotonda heights // Jan 5, 2016 at 12:23 PM


    For just one example, aren’t we the club who employed a man (JFK) with vascular dementia, not once but twice. Dennis Wise also popped in to lend us his invaluable bonhomie and expertise. How is expat talking nonsense?

    The appalling low level ability of the succession of people employed at the club is beyond farcical.

  • 86 OneAlanShearer // Jan 5, 2016 at 12:24 PM

    I would suggest everyone should expect to be dissapointed again in this window. They don’t think they need a defender….says it all really.

    We need a cb which won’t happen.

    We need a dm playmaker but I can’t wait to hear charnley say late in the window we won’t panic then that we are happy with what we have.

    See above for a striker.

    I am expecting nobody to join. They arent going to provide what’s needed. It’s all hot air or should I say paper talk.

  • 87 Rotonda heights // Jan 5, 2016 at 12:24 PM


    check his injury record

  • 88 Rotonda heights // Jan 5, 2016 at 12:26 PM


    fair enough

  • 89 Tsunki // Jan 5, 2016 at 12:29 PM

    Blackley the problem with your question is that it’s far too simple to lead to a conclusion, which is what I feel you are desperate to reach.

    Nufc have been excused corporation tax for years, why? Because they have consistent operating losses. Strangely they manage to contrive to increase spending to counter profits, in addition the £130m “interest free” loan which transferred Mike’s personal input to the club, is ‘repaid’ gradually to chip away at any threat of profit which might attract the taxman gaze. So Mike hasn’t really lost or risked any money, he simply gets repaid using the rising TV and media revenue.

    Now, in nufc Mike last year has a share of possibly £9m profit, alas as we have seen above, that’s no more than operating capital where a simple purchase of a player can erase that easily. So Mike coasts along with Nufc having basically a share of zilch. Having consultants estimate the marketable value of ground advertising as global TV share would be an unwelcome intrusion to the model as above, given that it appears said model is geared to coast along at sound break even.

    Which brings us to SD international, where Mike’s half share of £180m is a considerably more pocket able amount. Now here in this one company Mike can enjoy all that lovely free advertising worldwide that this company, which IS designed to maximise benefit of the shareholders, benefits to the tune of undisclosed and unknown millions.

    That’s the big answer you were avoiding I think.

    Simple answer – nufc is a malleable advertising conduit for the SD brand empire.

  • 90 WWSBRD // Jan 5, 2016 at 12:30 PM

    Transfermrkt has Austin down with 1 long term injury…what am I missing?

  • 91 BandB // Jan 5, 2016 at 12:31 PM

    From Biffa at Nufc.Com.

    “Hang the cost. There’s more than TV money at stake here and watching the pennies this month will the ultimate false economy. With even the most diehard supporter clinging on to hope of an upturn, screwing that up will have a devastating effect on the future of this club. People don’t need any more encouragement to walk away than they’ve had in the last three years
    It isn’t 2009 and we don’t have a divine right to waltz back up. The Championship is a different animal now and the list of grand old clubs living in reduced circumstances is a lengthy one.”

    We shouldn’t be preparing ourselves for disappointment. Our meek resignation to disappointment is exactly what they will be counting on if they decide they don’t need to exceed their “measured and prudent” approach to signings.

  • 92 firebug666 // Jan 5, 2016 at 12:32 PM

    Neil Warnock has advised Austin to go to Palace, but Austin is dragging his heels with QPR, and getting a little payback.

    QPR want £12.5m for Austin, but Austin feels he was priced out of a move by QPR in the summer and is saying he will not be leaving in this window, but can then leave for free in the summer.

    Warnock states he is playing a game of cat and mouse with QPR.

    Story from the mag.

  • 93 Tsunki // Jan 5, 2016 at 12:33 PM

    I’m sure the blogs Finance Guru ( i.e. holy man and economist) can put some decent spin on this, let’s wait and see. 🙂

  • 94 optimistic prime // Jan 5, 2016 at 12:33 PM

    We’re linked with Remy Carol and Austin.

    No one needs mention Carols injury record and Austin also doesn’t have the greatest. On SSN today they were talking about Chelsea and how Remy never seems to be fit or available.

    So 3 players with injury issues and some mental ones, if we have to have 1 of the 3 I’d bite the bullet and take Remy.

    Questionable attitude and a P***K but head and shoulders above the other 2.

  • 95 expatmag // Jan 5, 2016 at 12:36 PM


    17 points from 20 games and 3rd bottom plus 3rd relegation battle in 4 seasons would certainly back my.points up.

    I suppose you are happy with the way the club has/is being run?

    If do, maybe YOU should stay indoors in your gazetted domicile.

  • 96 BandB // Jan 5, 2016 at 12:41 PM


    I said Blackley would need to invent someone who would miss him. I presume he’s was trying to contact the Ianosphere to arrange it.

  • 97 optimistic prime // Jan 5, 2016 at 12:41 PM

    After Zidane got the Real job I’m starting to beleive anythings possible.

    Top4 anyone?

  • 98 WWSBRD // Jan 5, 2016 at 12:41 PM

    Ba had a ‘terrible injury record’ when we signed him…he was alright with us and I don’t recall Remy missing out many game when with us, no more than anyone else anyway

  • 99 jimmysmith // Jan 5, 2016 at 12:42 PM

    Is 18 mill daft money? What did Man Shit pay for that Martial fella? Plus I hear Carroll has sworn off the Jaegermeister as part of lengthy list of New Years resolutions. Get him in.

  • 100 optimistic prime // Jan 5, 2016 at 12:43 PM


    I don’t think Ba’s record was that bad, he had a knee issue teams were aware of.

    Some were ok with it, others weren’t.

  • 101 WWSBRD // Jan 5, 2016 at 12:48 PM

    Ba had a fairly poor one prior to signing for West Ham

  • 102 optimistic prime // Jan 5, 2016 at 12:48 PM

    The way I see it is we’re to slow up front, getting crosses in, moving the ball etc and don’t create many chances.

    The last 2 players we really need now are probably Austin and Carol as they won’t offer anything we haven’t already got.

    So I expect us to sign them both 😉

  • 103 optimistic prime // Jan 5, 2016 at 12:57 PM


    It’s down to what people see as a reasonable risk.

    £18m Carol
    £12.5m Austin

    Ba was way less than either and I doubt he picked up the wages of either the other two.

    Don’t think they are worrth the risk, if we got one it would say to Mitro we didn’t think he was good enough. I’d rather a striker that could compliment Mitros style and offer a different dynamic.

    For the price quoted the injury records and the type of player they are I’d personally run a mile from both.

  • 104 Jib // Jan 5, 2016 at 1:01 PM

    It’s a new regime now – new MD , Board , and coaching team.

    4 September2008 Wise departed NUFC
    3 February 2014, Kinnear resigned
    Llambias resigned as Newcastle’s managing director on 19 June 2013

    Why don’t you bring up Charlie Mitten , Joe Harvey and Stan Seymour?

  • 105 WWSBRD // Jan 5, 2016 at 1:04 PM

    Ba got solid wages with us and supposedly over 5 mill signing on fee with us

    As for Mitro tbf he’s not been good enough (yet he is still young and we shouldn’t of put so much on his shoulders). As for partnering him Austin is very good next to a target man

  • 106 Pitmatic // Jan 5, 2016 at 1:05 PM

    West Ham seem quite keen to get Carroll out the door now that he’s finally fit. Sullivan has openly talked of his regret over the transfer in the past, and has recently flagged Newcastle as his only realistic destination were he to be moved on. Given his wages at West Ham, you’d have to think that would be the case. The £18 million quoted is obviously a joke, but I hope something can be agreed in this window. The player would need to take a fairly hefty pay cut, but that could be offset, to a degree, with bonuses and a lengthy contract. West Ham need to accept that they overpaid — certainly in terms of his wages — and accept they’ll take a hit on the transfer fee.

    I really don’t understand the grief he seems to get on here. He’s a proven Premiership striker, the best at what he does in the business, and a completely different class to any of our current forward options. There’s an obvious concern over his injuries, but crucially, they don’t seem to have diminished him as player. We need, between now and the end of the season, some character and fight, both on the pitch and in the dressing room. Carroll would certainly give us that, as well as providing a threat in games where we’re being completely outplayed (there’ll be a few of these…).

    Newcastle are now at a competitive disadvantage when it comes to signing most players. We should not be passing up the opportunity to sign this one.

  • 107 Thump // Jan 5, 2016 at 1:05 PM

    @WWSBRD: Austin’s knee is supported solely by his flesh and positive thinking, if Hull and West Ham are to be believed.

    That’s probably what people are talking about.

  • 108 toon kk // Jan 5, 2016 at 1:05 PM

    If we do go for Carroll we’ll have to resign Barton to supply him or he’ll be as big of a waste of money as Tauvin. He’d be either injured or relying on scraps.

  • 109 WWSBRD // Jan 5, 2016 at 1:13 PM

    Well that’s what I was wondering but, again with the name drop, Ba’s knee was a time bomb when we signed him and, for me, he was the second best signing we have made behind Cabaye in recent years

  • 110 JamRec // Jan 5, 2016 at 1:30 PM

    I don’t think we should get Carroll, he is reliant on the supply and we don’t have the likes of Cabaye anymore to provide perfect balls and the team is not used to playing a long ball game! We need a striker who will go and get the goal, someone with pace who can take defenders on but can finish his dinner when called upon!!

  • 111 lochinvar // Jan 5, 2016 at 2:43 PM


    Newcastle will put off a move for PSV Eindhoven left-back Jetro Willems until the summer at the earliest.

    One less on the wish list then.
    According to the Newcastle Chronicle, Steve McClaren will not press ahead with an offer for the Netherlands international in the January window because of a knee injury.

    Willems has been extensively scouted by Graham Carr, and the Magpies have good contacts with the Eredivisie club having signed Georginio Wijnaldum last summer.

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