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It’s Fast Becoming Do Or Die For This Man

9:40 am, Wednesday, January 6th, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 176 Comments

Newcastle are in a precarious position in 3rd bottom place in the Premier League and we all know that Mike Ashley’s main (only) aim for Newcastle United is to keep us as a Premier League club.

Basically that’s to keep getting all the big money the PL gives out each May and the new £5.1B deal starts in June and that’s up from the £3B deal of the last three years.

We estimate that will give Newcastle around £135M a season – up from around £80M over the last three years.

steve mcclaren palace

Steve McClaren – must start winning in January

So Ashley will be motivated to get players in this month and news today we have launched a record £18.4M for long term striker target Alexandre Lacazette from Lyon.

17 points and only four wins in 20 league games is simply woeful – and while Steve argues we have been unlucky and should have had a lot more points – we still haven’t got the points on the board and are 3 points from safety.

We have played very well in a number of games including last Saturday at the Emirates – and there are signs the defense is tightening up, but we just cannot score the goals.

We play three games in eight days starting next  Saturday at Watford in the FA Cup.


Sat 09	15:00	A	Watford	- FA Cup 3rd round			
Tue 12	19:45	H	Manchester United				
Sat 16	15:00	H	West Ham 				
Sat 23	15:00	A	Watford	

The results in those games could well determine whether Steve McClaren stays in charge at Newcastle and certainly three defeats – we have already lost the last three games – could mean curtains for McClaren.

And it will not be Lee Charnley who does the firing since Lee appointed Steve to the position only days after he was fired at Derby County.

It would also be a failure of Lee’s if the manager  is fired.

What kind of ambition does appointing a sacked McClaren show Charnley has for Newcastle?

The correct answer is ……. not much.

It will be Mike Ashley’s decision is and when Steve goes – and we expect the owner to be involved in the transfer window this month when we need about three good players brought in to augment the squad and be instant starters at Newcastle.

As far as a new manager coming in is concerned – if it gets to that – means we could be restricted in choice because the manager would have to accept that Graham Carr is in charge of which players come in.

A number of good managers currently available – like David Moyes, Brendan Rodgers or Rafa Benitez  – wouldn’t accept those conditions.

So if a new manager is brought in it would again have to be somebody who would have to accept the way the club is being run – even though we have been unsuccessful with those policies ever since Ashley arrived at the club back in 2007.

Crazy but true.

Well – that’s unless Newcastle see the error of their ways and change the system and give the manager a lot more say in most things – including the transfer window.

Then we would be getting somewhere.

Comments welcome.

Tags: Coaching · Management · Newcastle News · Premier League · Press

176 responses so far ↓

  • 1 AK Malaysia // Jan 6, 2016 at 9:45 AM

    Mike Ashley will spend the cash… Starting with a proven striker.. Don’t mind loan deal of either Loic Remy or Andy Caroll … Needs to score more!!

  • 2 lesh // Jan 6, 2016 at 9:49 AM

    There’s always Carver, Carver with an proven record of saving us from the drop!

  • 3 AK Malaysia // Jan 6, 2016 at 9:50 AM

    Hope McClaren will stick with Gini in the middle of the park … Also, it’s time to bring back Siem into the first 11 … We didn’t lose when he started against Liverpool, Spurs & Villa …

  • 4 stuart no9 // Jan 6, 2016 at 9:50 AM

    Mr Ashley, if you want your £400m over the next 3 years , jose is still available.

  • 5 hibbitt // Jan 6, 2016 at 9:50 AM

    if you don’t score you don’t win if we don’t win we go down……….we now need to win as many games to to stay up as we did all last year……. it’s not going to happen

  • 6 spitfire_ // Jan 6, 2016 at 9:50 AM


    I saw your far cry for the negativity of the fans in the last two articles, and I easily can start counting the reasons why the fans are negative and cynical about Newcastle. But this will take a lot of time, because there’s so many reasons. So just tell me, why our “default settings” shouldn’t be negative? Blind fait after the last 9 years or something else? What in this football club made you a positive person? Give me a example. And I mean a real positive news, not some spending spree in the summer, because even without spending 50 mill, we was again the relegation fight.

  • 7 jazzyp // Jan 6, 2016 at 9:57 AM

    On the Lacazette transfer rumours NUFC not helped by timing either – Lyon def won’t part with Lacazette. Fekir out for months still, Beauvue transfer listed, they need him.

  • 8 Jib // Jan 6, 2016 at 9:58 AM


    Lash out ?

    Ha ha ha

    SBR once said to some whining fans in a filling station in Ipswich after his first 2 seasons finishing 18th and 19th.
    “If you plastic fans cannot get behind your team when it’s doing poorly , and we need your support , I don’t want to see you when we are doing well ”

    He got a right bollocking off Johnny Cobbold
    the chairman for that . Two seasons later they got to the quarters of the UEFA.

    I do believe that is the first recorded use of the term plastic fan . Although it was a term frequently used by SAF about Manure fans.

  • 9 bladeuser // Jan 6, 2016 at 9:58 AM

    Nufc dither until it is to late SMAC should have been sacked let’s face it he hasn’t got a scooby and will take us down they will also cock up getting the right players in to at leastt give us a chance of staying up if it is correct and I doubt it they have bid millions for another out of form player from France who doesn’t want to come anyway speaks volumes
    If it’s true and they have the money why not go all out for Austin he is just the type of player to get and take the chances to keep us up sell our French flops buy a top playmaker a top ch get arrons fit and bobs your uncle it’s not rocket science but those morons in charge will see us relegated
    SHEEP ? Out

  • 10 Blofal // Jan 6, 2016 at 9:59 AM

    I like Lacazette. He was brilliant last season. Obviously Ashley has made the cash available but why oh why are we still gambling??? We need players that can hit the ground running. Lacazette is one for the future not right now!!

  • 11 jayphoto // Jan 6, 2016 at 10:12 AM

    Lacazette is interesting! Hes suffered this season as Grenier has been injured and Valbuena seems to occupy the space where Lacazette usually drifts out to. They just don’t seem able to understand each others play.
    Hes more likely to cost 20m+ and for that kind of money i think there are other players that would be more likely to hit the ground running.
    Hes twice the player that Michy Batshuayi is though!

  • 12 WWSBRD // Jan 6, 2016 at 10:13 AM

    Nice history of the term…little to do with anything though

    Not really sure why fans caring about the state of their club are plastic fans, explaining that would have more relevance to ur argument

  • 13 geordieboy83 // Jan 6, 2016 at 10:15 AM

    Morning all

    On lacazette I’m seriously scratching my head as to why people wouldn’t want him here, he’s a mile above anything we could expect to buy from the premiership. He’s had a dip in form there ain’t a player in the world who hasn’t. This crap about adjusting, ba, cisse, remy 3 recent examples of how it can be done. If you’re good enough then it doesn’t matter where you come from and in my honest opinion lacazette is different class to anything we have or could get from this league.

  • 14 Jib // Jan 6, 2016 at 10:21 AM

    When I interract with the usual suspects on here.
    I get a mental image of this plastic Chelsea fan

  • 15 Slank // Jan 6, 2016 at 10:24 AM

    It is looking increasingly likely that a striker will arrive in this transfer window irrespective of whether its a permanent move or a loan move.

    This should be no surprise given our lack of goals this season.

    To get Lacazette the club will have to ‘break the bank’. In a negotiating position we are in a very weak position due to our league position and geographic location.

    However, we have attracted French players before and those still with us are not jumping up and down to leave.

    For Remy I suppose it is a choice of exposure to the French national squad. Cabaye moved from an elite French club to Palace to get regular exposure. Remy might think the same although Palace would appear a better option for him.

  • 16 jazzyp // Jan 6, 2016 at 10:25 AM


    Agree mate. Wini has proven that if your good enough you go straight into the first team.
    Lacazette would be an unbelievable player to bring in, But I doubt it will happen. If we were flying high in the top 5 then maybe

  • 17 Jib // Jan 6, 2016 at 10:28 AM

    Lacazette career form is a 1 goal in 3 games player.

    The season before last he was a 3 in 4 !

    This season he is still 1 in 3

    With the right service (which I believe he will get at NUFC) he could be sensational.

  • 18 Jib // Jan 6, 2016 at 10:30 AM

    BTW we are getting a bit of a chinning off of South Africa – 87 – 4 ATM

  • 19 jazzyp // Jan 6, 2016 at 10:33 AM

    What’s the betting on the 16th a certain Mr Carroll goes and bangs a hat trick against us

  • 20 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 6, 2016 at 10:37 AM

    I have seen Pardew almost doing everything you possibly could to get fired only to hear Penfold saying they had no backup plan for when Pardew left on his own accord.

    Carver lost almost every game and was kept on until the bitter end…

    Ed…why do you think McClaren’s job is jeopardy?

  • 21 spitfire_ // Jan 6, 2016 at 10:38 AM

    Keith Downie
    Sky Sources: Understand no bid has been made by @NUFC for Alexandre Lacazette, despite reports. We understand Lyon unwilling to sell.

    Damn you, Keith! You just stopped my positivism!

  • 22 Ron Knee // Jan 6, 2016 at 10:39 AM


    Welcome to the topsy-turvy world of NUFC!

  • 23 Shot Bru // Jan 6, 2016 at 10:41 AM

    Ben Arfa has scored more goals than Lacazete so far this season.

    I haven’t seen much of Lacazette, but from what I’ve read it seems he has no desire to come and play for us.

    So why bid nearly 20 million for a player who doesn’t want to play for us. Not the type of attitude we require in a relegation battle?

    once again our transfer policy appears to lack any foresight.

  • 24 Jib // Jan 6, 2016 at 10:43 AM

    Sky Sports News was saying on Monday Rafa was meeting with Real’s chairman when every other sports news channel was saying he was sacked !

  • 25 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 6, 2016 at 10:45 AM

    Ron…I am just trying to get an understanding of peoples reasoning!

    …as you know I have absolutely no idea or understanding of what it is Ashley is doing???

    I am speechless!

  • 26 lochinvar // Jan 6, 2016 at 10:47 AM

    Newcastle have had a £18m bid for Lyon forward Alexandre Lacazette rejected, according to French newspaper L’Equipe.
    The striker has scored six goals in 15 games for the French big-hitters and attracted the attention of the Toon scouts, who have been tasked with the job of finding Steve McClaren a new centre-forward.
    Newcastle have found the net just 19 times in 20 Premier League games this season.

  • 27 Ron Knee // Jan 6, 2016 at 10:51 AM


    I could understand if Ashley was an absentee landlord who never went to matches, but to voluntarily watch our awful team week after week is mind-boggling.

  • 28 jayphoto // Jan 6, 2016 at 10:56 AM

    Agree that Lacazette would be very similar to the signing of Gini in the sense that hes a class above!
    I actually think hed score more in england as the games are more open. Ligue 1 is a poorer league but on the whole its defensively more astute than the premier league.
    Against Lyon Lacazette has defenders playing deep and lyon have to break teams down where his attributes are more suited to counter attack.
    The guy can make something happen out of nothing though. He’d be a huge signing!! Just think the amount he would cost would be better split across 3 players in 3 positions

  • 29 Slank // Jan 6, 2016 at 10:57 AM

    Spitfire @ 21

    That report may be totally true in that no ‘official bid’ has been made.

    All Newcastle could have done is sound out the Lyon club president as a preliminary horse trading move.

  • 30 jazzyp // Jan 6, 2016 at 10:57 AM

    Sky Sports understand that there is more chance of Lacazette farting the French national anthem than joining Nufc

  • 31 Jib // Jan 6, 2016 at 10:58 AM

    HbA has scored 8 in 19
    AL has scored 8 in 15
    However HbA has scored 2 for France in friendlies.

  • 32 Kebabacus // Jan 6, 2016 at 10:58 AM

    For £19 million we could get Austin plus a loan deal for Remy with money left over for a tall centre-back.

  • 33 jayphoto // Jan 6, 2016 at 10:59 AM

    @ron knee – its always confused me that Ashley chooses to come to as many games as he does!
    He’s obviously a seriously busy guy and as a life long toon fan, even i find them excruciating to watch at times. Unless he just loves seeing us get beaten i can’t imagine choosing to watch us most of the time if youre not a fan!

  • 34 catchy in norway // Jan 6, 2016 at 10:59 AM


    my mind boggles when i heard you call rotonda a plastic negative fan, its like wow you are so far from the truth its not even funny.

    if you were in a passenger seat of a car and the person driving had a heart attack would you pull the hand break on or would you just let it crash?,, my opinion of the pro p45 group is that they would allow it to crash and hope for the best, fans like Rotonda are in the other group, they seen the problem early with P45, and were trying to warn people, slowly people got on board with with the same thoughts and it got louder and louder not that the club heard, but P45 sure did,

    Now P45 is not the biggest problem at our club but he had the most say on match days on how we played the game, the people above the manager are the real problem, but they are a harder nut to crack..

    Shteve is not the long term answer to our problems, but what i will give him credit for is, we now have a style of play, we now get bodies in the box and we now create chances, we now sit top of the table of % of goals in side the 18Y box with 63% the teams around us in that league are towards the top of the table, the football is pleasing on the eye, you can see what they are trying to do, we just need more confidence.

    for me fans like rotonda , jesper our toon, these guys are the total oppisite to negative, these guys are far more forward thinking than that,, fans that see no way out so they stick with same old same old,, these are the negative fans,,

  • 35 Slank // Jan 6, 2016 at 11:04 AM


    ‘Sky Sports understand that there is more chance of Lacazette farting the French national anthem than joining Nufc’

    Looks like he will be well set to do the same for the Bladon Races and become the star turn at the players Christmas party, albeit with nose pegs !

  • 36 martoon // Jan 6, 2016 at 11:04 AM

    Just a thought – if we are going to lash out £18m on an unproven French striker would we be better spending the money on a proven premiership striker such as Mr. Carroll??

  • 37 Ron Knee // Jan 6, 2016 at 11:05 AM


    I always used to look forward to match day – but that was a long time ago now!

  • 38 banjax // Jan 6, 2016 at 11:06 AM

    Why waste time. Hire Benitez now while there’s transfer cash available. Let him pick his players and sack McLaren and Charnley before we lose next 3 matches.

  • 39 jayphoto // Jan 6, 2016 at 11:06 AM

    No comparing lacazette to ben Arfa surely? Lacazette is a driven, professional guy who trains hard, works hard on the pitch, plays for his teammates and will probably go on to achieve what ben Arfa with his talent should have!
    HBA is having a good season. he plays a complete free role and does no defensive work. Perfect set up for him! No team could afford such a luxury in premier league. He’s proven so many times that he only plays for himself. Hes crazily talented but his mental side will always set him aside from being a world class player

  • 40 geordielad880 // Jan 6, 2016 at 11:09 AM

    My mate who is a leeds fan says newcastle are getting mowatt for 6m, hope hes right, very good young player, and a central midfielder who can create and score goals!

  • 41 Jack Root // Jan 6, 2016 at 11:10 AM

    There totally negative. You’re totally wrong. Take Jesper who knows nowt about football and I doubt if he’s ever been inside a ground. He’s totally clueless. He will not have watched a game but will profess an opinion to those who are ST holders and have watched football at SJP for years. Why entertain the guy!

    I see Allardyce is having a pop at the FA over the devaluation of the cup by the arranging of mid week games. Think he’s got a point.

  • 42 Shot Bru // Jan 6, 2016 at 11:16 AM


    A statistical observation of the goal scoring charts in Ligue 1

    Lacazette wants to play for a team with more ambition than us. So why bother shelling out 20 million on a player who has no desire to play for us in a relegation battle.

    If he is ‘world class’ he would surely want to play champions league?

  • 43 expatmag // Jan 6, 2016 at 11:16 AM

    If everyone believes that a professional ambitious and driven player would sign for us in the situation we find ourselves in, then for people like you , realism has gone right out the window.

    Quite frankly, Ashley and his gambling cronies gambled that the 50 odd million quid they spent in the summer on 4 players would be enough when it was plain to see that a complete overhaul of experienced quality required.

    In truth, the time to buy Lacazette was last summer.

  • 44 Jack Root // Jan 6, 2016 at 11:18 AM

    Derby’s Thorne a Defensive midfielder has been watched all season I’m told.

  • 45 expatmag // Jan 6, 2016 at 11:20 AM


    He will do well for us in the championship next season alongside the likes of Lascelles Darlow Armstrong and others then

  • 46 geordielad880 // Jan 6, 2016 at 11:20 AM

    Side to play watford:-



    ————————de jong

    Give wijnaldum a rest, can come on for last 30 mins

  • 47 Jack Root // Jan 6, 2016 at 11:21 AM

    They will join if you agree to a release clause if we’re relegated. You only need to look at the scum they’ve had this for last three seasons.

  • 48 hibbitt // Jan 6, 2016 at 11:22 AM

    jack are you a ST holder or do you go to games always nice to know on what people base there opinions on

  • 49 Shot Bru // Jan 6, 2016 at 11:24 AM


    I was told Wally watched Thorne all last season!

  • 50 jazzyp // Jan 6, 2016 at 11:25 AM

    Although Lacazette is not going to happen. It shows more ambition than the link to Saivet that keeps doing the round.
    I cannot understand what this player would bring to help a relegation threatened team.
    As I have already said, His injury record makes Siem de jong look like the bionic man

  • 51 nut meg // Jan 6, 2016 at 11:26 AM

    I know you see a fair bit of French football so I’d like to ask how would you compare Fekir to Lacazette ?

  • 52 Jib // Jan 6, 2016 at 11:28 AM

    Norwegian nignog
    “for me fans like rotonda , jesper our toon, these guys are the total oppisite to negative, these guys are far more forward thinking ”


    Whoops just lost the argument Ha ha ha

  • 53 Slank // Jan 6, 2016 at 11:31 AM

    The argument that he wouldn’t come to us because of our league position could equally be directed at Gini, Mitrovic, Thauvan and Mbemba when we escaped relegation on the last day.

  • 54 Jack Root // Jan 6, 2016 at 11:39 AM

    I and he favoured signing him but he got injured. Watch this space.

  • 55 jazzyp // Jan 6, 2016 at 11:39 AM


    Yes mate but we had escaped relegation and we were not in one. I only see a top player moving to us if there is some sort of clause in there contract.
    And I still maintain we should have signed Cabaye instead of wasting millions on Thauvin

  • 56 Shot Bru // Jan 6, 2016 at 11:42 AM


    I don’t think it’s just that were in a relegation battle that deters Lacazette from joining.

    I reckon he’s way more ambitious than wanting to play for NUFC.

    We have been sold as a stepping stone for players but I think that has changed a bit.

    We are either a graveyard for players or we have just been signing Shyte 2nd rate players from France an Holland who aren’t good enough to make that next step.

    Lacazette is probably way more canny and is biding his time for an ambitious club like Spurs or Liverpool to come in and buy him

  • 57 Jack Root // Jan 6, 2016 at 11:42 AM

    Since I could afford . I’m someone who only talks about things I know something about.

  • 58 The next Mike Williamson // Jan 6, 2016 at 11:43 AM

    Eliot; Janmaat Colo Mbembe Colback; Sissoko Tiote; Thauvin Wini Perez; Mitrovic

    Thauvin has only played in his correct position on the right once against Watford and he did alright. If we attacked Watford they would be completely surprised.

  • 59 Jack Root // Jan 6, 2016 at 11:44 AM

    A Signing before Man united game would be z great boost. Get with it you guys.

  • 60 firebug666 // Jan 6, 2016 at 11:48 AM

    Jib @52

    You really are a tool pal.

    The only thing that is negative on this blog is you.

    The likes of Rotoda, Jesper and Our Toon etc. give an opinion on the blog and then debate it with other bloggers, even willing to have their opinions challenged and changed in some cases.

    That is what the blog is for, I love to get into a debate with folk, but idiots like yourself come on to break up those debates, and troll the bloggers.

    It’s time you slithered back into the cesspool you emerged from, the blog could do with a break from your sniping and name calling.


    Whoops just lost the argument Ha ha ha)

    You were never in the argument to win it pal, Name calling does not count as a victory.

    For the record:

    I think the club is a joke run by idiots under a general rule of incompetence, and think we will struggle to avoid relegation this term, SM is not the man to take this club forward.

    I don’t go to the games anymore, due to health issues, but try to watch every game on TV or stream, in your opinion that may make me a plastic fan, but unlike you at least I’m still a fan.

  • 61 Slank // Jan 6, 2016 at 11:52 AM


    The previous season, especially after Carver took charge, would not have impressed potential recruits.

    The fact that they joined us says that we have something (what I don’t know) that would make the Dutch player of the year leave his club to which he was almost guaranteed adulation and trophies.

    The motives why players move clubs are not always straight forward and known to the public.

    We shouldn’t dismiss what the club are trying to do. It wasn’t so long ago that many said the club had no ambition. Now some are saying, words to the effect, that the club is misguided in trying to buy such a player as Lacazette.

    And yes I too thought that Cabaye would have been a good shout.

  • 62 catchy in norway // Jan 6, 2016 at 11:53 AM

    Jib is an apt name,, all you spout is jibba jabba

  • 63 Slank // Jan 6, 2016 at 11:56 AM

    Shot Bru

    ‘s from France an Holland who aren’t good enough to make that next step.’

    Gini is second rate is he ?

  • 64 Jack Root // Jan 6, 2016 at 11:57 AM

    Are you for real. Half those you mention,if their football brain were chocolate it wouldn’t fill a smartie.
    There out of their depth in understanding football. I used to read Beattie and Transfer and others etc who were always on here and have been driven away by those who want to get in outta the cold.
    Let’s get them off the back benches.

  • 65 jazzyp // Jan 6, 2016 at 11:59 AM


    I’m all for ambition mate and if we can bring aboard players of the calibre of Lacazette in this transfer window or any for that matter is going to be a massive bonus.
    But I question why bid stupid money for a player like Thauvin and yet refuse to pay that bit extra for Deli alli.
    Why pay over the odds for Riviere…….Cabella and yet not pay the right money for proven quality

  • 66 catchy in norway // Jan 6, 2016 at 11:59 AM


    you talk about HBA like he did not defend,, you are so wrong, he defended , but just not as much as P45 wanted him to..

    the other thing is, why do we need 10 out field out and out defenders, the game is about scoring goals and winning games, all teams need players like HBA in the team, they need support up front too,, again under P45 our forwards had no support, and when players like HBA tried to play in the oppostion half, P45 got most of the fans thiking this is a bad thing because how can he defend the goal from the other half,,,

    sad thinking in my book

  • 67 Shot Bru // Jan 6, 2016 at 12:04 PM


    Of course Gini is a good player.

  • 68 firebug666 // Jan 6, 2016 at 12:05 PM

    Jack Root

    I have been on here for that past couple of years, and in that time I have had some good debates with bloggers including those mentioned.

    Can I ask! Who are you to decide if they have knowledge of football or not?

    Are you saying that you are more intelligent when it come to football? Or that your opinion is more valid than theirs?

    If you try debating the issues with them intelligently without abuse, or name calling you may find you enjoy the blog more.

    Am I for real, Yes I am, thanks for asking!

  • 69 catchy in norway // Jan 6, 2016 at 12:07 PM


    just to add some weight to your argumet,,

    france , the average league position in fifa is 8th
    Holland is 7th
    England is 10 th

    the players that we have signed from these countries where playing for there national teams when we signed them

  • 70 AncientC // Jan 6, 2016 at 12:13 PM

    “HBA is having a good season. he plays a complete free role and does no defensive work.” Jayphoto, which is exactly the role that Ben Arfa is supposed to play.

    Clairefontaine’s prodigy was not been trained to play as a glorified wing-back.

  • 71 jayphoto // Jan 6, 2016 at 12:16 PM

    @nutmeg – fekir reminds me of Mahrez. He links well with Lacazette because he starts wide and drifts central and lacazette starts centrally and drifts wide! Lacazette reminds me of Remy at Marseille but quicker and better taking players on.
    Can see lyon wanting to keep Fekir for a long time.
    Personally think Lacazettes form has been down to a few things! Beauvue playing has changed lyons approach. They put alot more crosses in now and play slightly more direct that doesn’t suit lacazette. Also Valbuena playing has affected him. MV tends to make similar runs to AL whereas when Grenier played he tended to look to release AL quickly, in contrast MV holds onto the ball longer.
    Be shocked if we got him. Hed suit both Liverpool and Spurs And Man utd and all could do with him

  • 72 Jack Root // Jan 6, 2016 at 12:17 PM

    Calm tassel soon. It’s hardly abuse to question those out of their depth . They would be oot of their depth in a bathroom basin or a car park puddle.
    You and others mock Blackley but he’s served his time in the SJP trenches. He called it right on Mitro and Perez not scoring enough way
    back in September. He’s a good judge of a player and what’s lacking in the team. He doesn’t always express himself very well but he kinda makes sense to me. That’s my opinion .Most you sing the claims for have come late to the party and are wise after the event. You introduced the question of intelligence.

  • 73 Slank // Jan 6, 2016 at 12:19 PM


    Friends down south in north London and Hertfordshire told me some time ago that Deli Alli (whose name sounds like some sleazy backstreet food emporium) always had his sights were firmly fixed on London. He would never have ventured north of Watford.

  • 74 jayphoto // Jan 6, 2016 at 12:20 PM

    @ancient C/ catchy – not saying HBA should be a glorified left back etc just that he plays for himself too much. For natural talent hes in the top 5 ive ever seen but theres a reason at 28 he plays for Nice. Same reason marseille and Newcastle were able to sign him when really from lyon or at least marseille his ability should have seen his career reach the very top

  • 75 AncientC // Jan 6, 2016 at 12:23 PM

    jayphoto, I was not implying that you thought Ben Arfa should play as a wing-back, I was more alluding to the fact that Pardew wanted to play him that way.

    Pardew ruined many a player by shoving them out on the wing and trying to get donkey work out of them.

    Newcastle is the only club that Ben Arfa has played at, that didn’t want to keep his services… for all of his alleged problems.

  • 76 Shot Bru // Jan 6, 2016 at 12:25 PM


    The current transfer policy of recruiting from France and Holland has left us with the following players. We are currently in the relegation zone.

    De Jong
    Cabella, had he gone or is stick officially on loan?

    Fair enough Obertan came from Manure, but he’s still French

  • 77 firebug666 // Jan 6, 2016 at 12:25 PM


    You make my case for me then.

    “They would be oot of their depth in a bathroom basin or a car park puddle.”

    Is that because you have a different opinion?

    For the record mate I have not debated anything with Blackley for over a year.

    I agree with some of what he says, and disagree with other bits, but I found trying to debate with him was just banging my head against a brick wall, as he will not be swayed from his opinion.

    Though he does not claim to be more intelligent, than anybody else.

    However it is not Blackley I was talking about, I simply wanted to know why you think you are more knowledgeable about football than the afore mentioned? And why you think your opinion is more valid than theirs?

    Telling me they are out of their depth is not really an answer. Like I said I have had some good debates and conversations with them….I wonder if that makes me out of my depth too?

  • 78 Jack Root // Jan 6, 2016 at 12:26 PM

    Oh and I have read the best the blog has to offer over many years. I also watch and have watched football home and away. It’s all about opinions but you have to play the ball and not……
    Good day

  • 79 jazzyp // Jan 6, 2016 at 12:28 PM


    Shame mate that. Would have been a sensation through the middle of the park gracing SJP in the black and white.
    My point is buddy that we waste so much money on cheap imports hoping they come good and can be sold on at a value.Or young talent again hoping they can be sold on at a profit.
    Why don’t they for once bring in 3-4-5 players in one transfer window and admittedly spend big that are of quality and add instant impact rather than the line of we have bought for the future

  • 80 nut meg // Jan 6, 2016 at 12:29 PM

    Thanks for that reply.I’ve only seen videos of them but I’ve been trying to think of who Fekir reminds me of & it popped into my that he strikes the ball early like Robbie Fowler,right or wrong that’s what I see and I do like him.A big future for the young man I think…..if only!

  • 81 headtheball // Jan 6, 2016 at 12:29 PM

    Jack Root
    Your posts are as funny as a root canal without anaesthetic.
    I’m someone who only talks about things I know something about. REALLY?
    Ashley Wallet Out.

  • 82 jayphoto // Jan 6, 2016 at 12:32 PM

    @ancient – yeah Pardew really was the worst manager for a player like HBA. I don’t think McClaren would do him any favours either. Nice just seem to let him so what he wants and compensate by having work horses around him to cover the ground. Its working to be fair.
    Benny needs a manager that focuses more on using its own strengths to hurt the other teams weaknesses rather than a manager that focuses on the opposition strengths more. Weve not had one of those simce Sir Bob.
    Hes on a free in the summer and it’ll be telling where he goes. Got a feeling hel go to arab/chinese/american or russian league for mega money wages.
    If hes got any ambition hel sign for a team like leicester/stoke where hel have to work but they’ll let him express himself! Id love to see him back in the PL!
    least hes one player we dont have to speculate will join palace 😉

  • 83 Jack Root // Jan 6, 2016 at 12:32 PM

    There are only so many hours in the day.

  • 84 Jack Root // Jan 6, 2016 at 12:34 PM

    We need some humour.

  • 85 Jack Root // Jan 6, 2016 at 12:36 PM

    I’ve not had a root canal bonny lad.

  • 86 jazzyp // Jan 6, 2016 at 12:39 PM

    Jack root

    Well blow me down and shove my cock through a combine harvester…..No humour on this site ?????
    Just wait till the usual suspects come on later mate and watch the put downs commence

  • 87 jayphoto // Jan 6, 2016 at 12:39 PM

    @nutmeg Reckon AL is premier league ready now whereas Fekir can become a superstar in France for a season before landing a real madrid/barca type move. Hes more naturally talented than AL. I think lyon know what they have with him too. Hes the best theyve produced since Benzema and he can reach the same level.
    AL would be great for us. If we sign him i can’t imagine us being able to attract a better player. He’s champions league level but the difference is Fekir has the potential to be at a level with Suarez, james rodriguez, silva, benzema etc in future whereas i think AL will fall just slightly short of that level

  • 88 Jack Root // Jan 6, 2016 at 12:40 PM

    What’s happened to Bobby. There’s a fan who knows football. Loved reading and feeling his passion.
    A Happy New Ysar if your reading.

  • 89 Jack Root // Jan 6, 2016 at 12:41 PM

    Belfast and Tsunki
    I agree a great double comedy act.
    Thanks for the craic.

  • 90 AncientC // Jan 6, 2016 at 12:43 PM

    I see Adebayor is being linked with Crystal Palace, I personally hope that one goes through.

  • 91 Our Toon // Jan 6, 2016 at 12:45 PM

    Interesting debating going on here

    Mr Root

    Your pal jib said yesterday that the hearsay conspiracy theorists were at work when it was claimed Ashley bought the club for advertising reasons. He then posted a message which stated the Mansoor family used 100m sponsorship for Citeh as a way to get around FFP. Although unproven I agree with Jib that this is the case but when asked to provide links (he loves that) Jib disappeared. As for Blackley he argues even when he knows he’s wrong, I and most others on here listen to what’s debated and can change our stance because we are open minded

    BTW Mr Root what’s your opinion on Anthony Martial? I’m intrigued to get your wise footballing knowledge on him. He’s currently got 2 goals more than mitro and on par with Perez (off the top of my head) the point I’m making is Perez and mitro are currently 6 years away from being in there prime, you slate young talent like that shows the limited knowledge you have….just my opinion though.

    Ozil took 2 years to adjust to the prem, Lukaku took 2 or 3 years to adjust and grow into the player he is, the point I’m making is not to be quick to judge youngsters, it’s our failed policy of not buying senior players which is costing us as youngsters need to have experienced heads around them to take the burden away.

    As for the lack of goals, we are currently 19th in the table for chance creation, if you can’t create more than 1 or 2 good chances a game you are likely to get relegated as you won’t score….but you know all this as you are more than educated and apparently in the know with claims of you’ve been told we’ve made an enquiry for a player etc etc.

    I’m not more knowledgeable than anyone else on this blog except for maybe Jib who claimed Brazil was a club team!! Other than that you all have opinions, some daft some not. Each makes up there own mind based on what they think including jib who I do belittle from time to time but all in jest of course.

    2 things happened on this blog that showed no matter what bickering people have we are truly United, Welsh had bad news which was family related and people rallied round him with support and words of comfort no matter what the issues are / were.

    AC had sponsorship for the little one and everyone donated, rallied round and showed support. I come on here to be informed and to have good debates, I don’t like engaging in childish arguments but unfortunately do have them as that’s what the blog is becoming.

    My advice is to keep an open mind on all areas of debate like firebug does and most others, this “I know better” attitude isn’t the right way to behave but who am I to judge. All the best pal!!

  • 92 Tsunki // Jan 6, 2016 at 12:47 PM

    Oh dear, Ian. ” play the ball and not the man”- that’s a familiar phrase. And “you are” is contracted to ” you’re ” and not “your” btw.

    So you’ve defrocked to grace us with your Jack Groot financial wizardry? After all the financial talk finished that is, thankfully. You’re a real pain, Ian, you know that don’t you? You can’t help castigating the blog collective for not conforming to your world view.

  • 93 BandB // Jan 6, 2016 at 12:49 PM

    The only reason I’ve asked, politely, about your recent downbeat assessments is that you were a prime mover of the “repent, repent, all ye neggers, fall on your knees and swallow your own dirt” brigade when we signed Mitrovic.
    Along with another long time poster who always has the same style, the same arguments, the same targets, and the same stink, no matter which name he’s hiding behind.

  • 94 Essex Geordie Bill // Jan 6, 2016 at 12:50 PM


    ‘Just got to love the “fans?” on here !

    Lie on your back on the sand look up at the Sun and just let the negativity wash over you.’

    That comment definitely applies to me, I’ve never felt so negative about the team I’ve supported for over sixty years.

    So am I a plastic Geordie as well?

  • 95 Tsunki // Jan 6, 2016 at 12:54 PM

    And Jeff, time to wind it back in before another one of your traps spring on you. Your buffoonery is tangible to everyone but your good self, sir! It could be endearing, but it’s now a constant sharp pain like a splinter under the fingernail. Get used to negativity, embrace it, understand it, but most of all, realise it as the natural result of what has happened and continues to happen at this club under the knowledgeable gaze of the fan base of NUFC. If you spent more time being objective about events rather than trying to dismantle your “fellow” fans, you wouldn’t look so much the perennial clart.

  • 96 Tsunki // Jan 6, 2016 at 12:56 PM

    Jack Groot – sorry – Ian, don’t you remember Belfast and I embarked on solo careers? Apparently Belfasts is successful. 🙂

  • 97 Jack Root // Jan 6, 2016 at 12:57 PM

    Our Toon
    The point Blackley made about Mitro and Perez was in the here and now they won’t score enough. He was not looking at future seasons when they might develop. His point was that we could be in trouble this season by not having a proven goal scorer signed up.
    You can call me Jack. I am not pretentious you can’t have too much
    warmth and depth. I’m oot.

  • 98 Tsunki // Jan 6, 2016 at 1:00 PM

    My thought on the non-fpotball talk is that it is in fact positive. Hear me out – with the lack of anything looking like watchable football, silent running on the club PR front, no expectations in the transfer window venting our frustrations and airing our discontent and visions of doom are cathartic. it’s constructive really. And constructive = positivity. There you go, that’s for free.

    I also contest that plastic fans don’t bother to even think about creating a blog account.

  • 99 Jack Root // Jan 6, 2016 at 1:00 PM

    Hi. What’s with Ian Groot. Ian missing something . Thought you had signed up to the billing. I really am oot.

  • 100 Tsunki // Jan 6, 2016 at 1:04 PM

    By the way jeff, can you just explain what you mean by ” Norwegian nignog “?

    That’s an interesting expression, I’m sure many would be interested in your interpretation of it.

  • 101 rwpoynter // Jan 6, 2016 at 1:05 PM

    I haven’t posted for a long time but quite honestly what is the point in getting rid of Steve Mclaren? The problems are above him and a team which sometimes simply underperforms. Lots of people being paid huge sums of money and not delivering, but the display at Arsenal doesn’t fall into that. Ashley and Charnley are who should go. When the spirit returns as it did under Keegan and Robson, the performances will too.

  • 102 WWSBRD // Jan 6, 2016 at 1:05 PM

    If u aren’t chuffed to bits with NUFC then ur a plastic fan mate that’s the rules

  • 103 Tsunki // Jan 6, 2016 at 1:05 PM

    Ian 😀

    You’re not supposed to say “I am oot”. You’re supposed to say “I am Groot”

  • 104 Tsunki // Jan 6, 2016 at 1:07 PM

    Yo – hang on a sec, I just have to move away from this radiator…


  • 105 jayphoto // Jan 6, 2016 at 1:07 PM

    @tsunki – for real jeff used that expression? Christ if you dont get banned for that you wont get banned for anything thats shocking

  • 106 reilly // Jan 6, 2016 at 1:11 PM

    racist scumbag,not the 1st time either.

  • 107 WWSBRD // Jan 6, 2016 at 1:11 PM

    Preaching to the choir mate I nearly lost a leg sitting too close to the fire, it’s a tough life we lead!

  • 108 Tsunki // Jan 6, 2016 at 1:12 PM

    He’s going to try and come up with the “novice” version that used to be used in the 50’s or prior, but everyone knows since the days of Alf Garnett, On the Buses and Love Thy Neighbour you just don’t use that expression. You just don’t.

  • 109 geordieboy83 // Jan 6, 2016 at 1:12 PM

    Guys I’ve got to ask is anybody on here Michael maximus moose from the mag and chronicle comments section? That’s a whinger lol I swear every decision is the wrong one. Random sorry but curious

  • 110 BandB // Jan 6, 2016 at 1:13 PM


    One is definitely allowed to slag the players, the board, the coaches, the fans, the city. Ad nauseum.
    That’s positivity.
    The “change the record, pal” contributions only emerge when-you- know-who is being shown insufficient deference.

  • 111 Tsunki // Jan 6, 2016 at 1:16 PM

    So doff, so doff , so doff, so doff,
    So doff your hat, I pray!

    Always polite to tip your cap in the presence of the padré.


  • 112 Jack Root // Jan 6, 2016 at 1:16 PM

    Don’t tyek leif so seriously. Especially if it’s yors.
    Are you thinking I am Ian Toon. He was one alongside Ruddy spectacular and The Wizard. Better times before the arrival of the go shires. I’ve said too much bonny. Its Root Root Root.
    Until the next time all the best to Belfast.

  • 113 WWSBRD // Jan 6, 2016 at 1:17 PM

    Wow Jib did say that earlier on this thread…

  • 114 Tsunki // Jan 6, 2016 at 1:18 PM

    Although I get the feeling that Ian is looking for more of the clasping of the flat cap to the chest with both hands, head bowed, eyes lowered kind of reverence.

  • 115 Wayayman // Jan 6, 2016 at 1:18 PM

    Tsunki @ 100. Glad you mentioned that, I though I must’ve been the only one who noticed or understood the connotations of that particularly old fashioned racist comment. Beyond belief that anyone would use that expression.

    Anyway, back to football things. All this name-calling, i’m-a-better-fan-than-you stuff that some posters write consistently – I ask you this: Can any real fan hand-on-heart say that they are happy with how the club is being run since Ashley took over? Surely that’s the bottom line here? Nothing to do with who goes to games or for how long youve had a season ticket, or where you were born. True fans want the best for their club, and don’t give a rat’s chuff above oneupmanship on other fans of the same team!

  • 116 Tsunki // Jan 6, 2016 at 1:19 PM

    Ian it’s you. We’re really not as stupid as you want us to be. Give our regards to the hive.

  • 117 dok - the horrid colonial // Jan 6, 2016 at 1:19 PM

    ‘I also contest that plastic fans don’t bother to even think about creating a blog account.’.

    sure glad I turned down the fake boob implants then tsunki 🙂

  • 118 BandB // Jan 6, 2016 at 1:20 PM

    This has to be the most convincing disguise since mild-mannered Clark Kent bamboozled everyone with his pair of thick-rimmed spectacles.

  • 119 Tsunki // Jan 6, 2016 at 1:20 PM


  • 120 WWSBRD // Jan 6, 2016 at 1:22 PM

    I agree, I even tried to discuss this with Jib earlier but, as seems to often happen, he bottled out of it and started ignoring me

    Ah well seems he has wider spread issues now

  • 121 Tsunki // Jan 6, 2016 at 1:24 PM

    Well that expression either makes jeff a minimum septegenarian or a racist. Which one, Jeff? Or both?

  • 122 BandB // Jan 6, 2016 at 1:25 PM


    I think Ruddy left because he got into university.

  • 123 dok - the horrid colonial // Jan 6, 2016 at 1:26 PM

    and gmornign to you BandB , always good to “see” you 🙂

  • 124 Jib // Jan 6, 2016 at 1:26 PM

    Essex Geordie Bill // Jan 6, 2016 at 12:50 PM

    “JIB – So am I a plastic Geordie as well?”

    Not at all , from memory you try to remain as positive as you feel you can.
    If you want to look at my other posts and main drift. It’s those tossers whose default setting is to whinge , twist and whine.Who no matter what article is posted (this time it was Lacazette ) just look to pick holes and find fault.
    Bill you must have met characters like that in the real world , this blog is infested with them.

  • 125 Essex Geordie Bill // Jan 6, 2016 at 1:29 PM

    Actually, wouldn’t it be amusing if AC did sign for the unmentionables.

    That would really hike the negativity levels.

  • 126 dok - the horrid colonial // Jan 6, 2016 at 1:30 PM

    I seem to recall a certain poster, 1st letter “j”, last letter “b”, who jumped all over me about not being a true supporter, since I wasn’t born tyneside, and therefore, had no valid opinions of the club….

    shocking after all his bravado, and racial slurs, and gutterlike comments, he is even allowed on here…

  • 127 Llort muw // Jan 6, 2016 at 1:33 PM


  • 128 Our Toon // Jan 6, 2016 at 1:38 PM


    Just checked that out and you are right, jib it’s shocking to use that word in any context!!

  • 129 Jib // Jan 6, 2016 at 1:38 PM

    Be a man
    Accuse me right out of racism.
    Don’t slyly imply it.
    If you cannot provide evidence , then I’ll get you suspended.

  • 130 LGFUAD21 // Jan 6, 2016 at 1:39 PM

    Who ever was using racial expletives should be banned for life.

    Also stop debating who the better fan is. No one is a better fan than anyone else. We all have an equal right in supporting Newcastle whether we can get to all games or none.

  • 131 loonie-toon // Jan 6, 2016 at 1:39 PM

    Sky sayin we not bid for lazzatte

  • 132 dok - the horrid colonial // Jan 6, 2016 at 1:41 PM


    get me suspended jib? thats rich…

  • 133 firebug666 // Jan 6, 2016 at 1:42 PM


    It’s not an accusation of racism pal, it’s a fact, you use a derogatory term that should never be use. Whatever you claim was your intentions will not wash here, it’s there for all to see.

  • 134 Jib // Jan 6, 2016 at 1:43 PM

    Oh I have just seen Tsunki pounced on the word nignog.
    No racial overtones in our household.
    It just means fool.

  • 135 Jack Root // Jan 6, 2016 at 1:44 PM

    Y ev got tha many slates missing. Divvent annoy me , day ye want foak te see me as me are or as yee are or dyah want them te leak me?

  • 136 Jib // Jan 6, 2016 at 1:45 PM


    nig-nog ?(plural nig-nogs)

    (contemptuous, good humored, non-racial, slang) A foolish person; hence, a raw and unskilled recruit. Cf. ning-nong.

  • 137 Llort muw // Jan 6, 2016 at 1:46 PM

    Jib, you’ve thrown yoursel in that hole pal.

  • 138 BandB // Jan 6, 2016 at 1:48 PM

    Go on Jib

    Point it out to Ed and get Dok suspended.
    I wouldn’t like you banned. You support the coaching staff and players generally, and never try to deny your support for Ashley with mealy-mouthed pleading.
    But on what grounds would you complain here?
    That you didn’t write it?

  • 139 firebug666 // Jan 6, 2016 at 1:48 PM


    I thought you might try to wriggle out of it, simply put you know what the term means, and that it is extremely offensive to people.

    You used it in an offensive manner to Catchy, and you knew what you were doing.

  • 140 Jack Root // Jan 6, 2016 at 1:50 PM

    Different times Ruddy Spectacular would not have entertained such talk. He was a giant and a legend in his own …….. The Wor Alan as bloggers went and I am reminded that he’s now an environmental lawyer coining it in.

  • 141 WWSBRD // Jan 6, 2016 at 1:54 PM

    Give over u knew exactly what u were doing much like everyone here knew it. It’s not an innocent mistake it’s common knowledge what that term means and quite frankly u should be ashamed

  • 142 tonynufc // Jan 6, 2016 at 1:54 PM

    Looks like we wont b persuing Michy Batshuayi any more. Just signed a new contract till 2020

  • 143 firebug666 // Jan 6, 2016 at 1:58 PM

    Dictionary Terms

    Urban Dictionary
    a very offensive word for a black person. Do not use this word. Dictionary results for “nignog”
    As a term of abuse for a black person, a shortened and reduplicated form of nigger.
    noun \?nig?no?g, -?näg\
    Definition of nig–nog
    Popularity: Bottom 10% of words
    British slang disparaging + offensive
    : a black person

    I could go on Jib, but just to show you there is more than just Wiktionary

  • 144 Jib // Jan 6, 2016 at 1:59 PM


    A thousand times No !

    I apologise to Catchy and all on here if it was taken as a racial slur.

    It was never in my mind as I posted it for it to be one.

    I was using it (stupidly naively and unthinking ) in it’s sense as a fool.

    I’m mortified to think I could be so dim.

  • 145 firebug666 // Jan 6, 2016 at 2:00 PM


    I will give you the benefit of doubt, and accept your apology.

  • 146 Llort muw // Jan 6, 2016 at 2:01 PM

    You ain’t getting outta this one bud. You knew exactly what you were doing, well done for showcasing your vile nature.

  • 147 manxpie // Jan 6, 2016 at 2:07 PM

    Every European club and player knows the big money is coming into the premier league next season so know that prices and wages will sky rocket they’d be stupidto sell now and players would be stupid to move now when they could nenegotiate higher wages next season they all want a slice of the pie
    for that reason we won’t get any high caliber players like lacazette we’ll have to aim a lot lower than that
    shows how important the last window really was
    on jib, I and many told people to ignore him quite simple really Ed said he’d keep tabs on him we’ll see after that comment

  • 148 BandB // Jan 6, 2016 at 2:08 PM


    Personally, I doubt think there is any doubt as to what you intended, and “it doesn’t mean that in our house.” is no defence. You must know what its popular meaning is.
    That’s the c-word and the n-word used on a blog read by people of all ages all over the world, in a couple of weeks.
    You always seem to over-step the mark in the end, and there has to be a limit to the number of times Ed is going to turn a blind eye when you escape your ban by flouting a deliberately flimsy new blog name.

  • 149 reilly // Jan 6, 2016 at 2:08 PM

    what about the other racist comments you have made.
    your a scumbag plain and simple and should be banned

  • 150 manxpie // Jan 6, 2016 at 2:09 PM

    Benefit of doubt firebug! !!?
    Maybe once not countless times man!

  • 151 davis_toons // Jan 6, 2016 at 2:13 PM

    We will surly survive the drop if we can get JUST 1 of these players. 1 will do.

  • 152 BandB // Jan 6, 2016 at 2:13 PM

    I wonder what the pupils of Wharrier Street School make of an international blog where these words, and their author, are accepted and pardoned in such a laissez-faire manner over a period of years.

  • 153 firebug666 // Jan 6, 2016 at 2:14 PM


    I have never know Jib apologise, and I do believe that on this occasion it was his stupidity rather than his vile nature.

    I don’t like jib, that’s no secret, he is a nasty piece of work at times, just this time he has apologised, now he may be trying to worm his way out of it, but I will give him the benefit of doubt.

  • 154 Rotonda heights // Jan 6, 2016 at 2:14 PM


    Did you really think going on past experience that many of us would fall for the Lacazette story. Not negative my friend just realistic.

    You condone mediocrity. Other don’t. I expect you’ll find many of us loved SBR and KK and were very positive back then.

    Since those heady days we have seen our club decimated by the commercial self interest of one man who is apparently now floundering somewhat to cover the cracks due entirely to his misplaced avarice and faith in low level employees he tasked with sailing his most visible branch of sports direct.

    I suspect your random abuse of all and sundry is partly due to a mix of medication and alcohol. Or you could possibly be on the spectrum and are socially challenged.

    All in all a very unpalalatable combination and whereas many people might think you are x, y and z, I just kind of feel sorry for you as I suspect ”virtual” conversation is your only media outlet when sadly you are clearly not adequately equipped for real life it would seem.

  • 155 Tsunki // Jan 6, 2016 at 2:15 PM

    it’s not pouncing jeff it’s noticing. How old are you? I remember my late dad using it and that was in the 70’s and he knew both applications of the word. Mortified my mam who brought us up to be virtually unaware of racial division. I don’t want to get you banned, but you’ve got to say that’s not just foolishness. You should have been wary of using that.

  • 156 dok - the horrid colonial // Jan 6, 2016 at 2:26 PM


    wheres my ban jib? since I am the rascist one…

  • 157 dok - the horrid colonial // Jan 6, 2016 at 2:27 PM

    apology is in order, methinks… now that you’ve been found out and found guilty…

  • 158 firebug666 // Jan 6, 2016 at 2:28 PM


    I think you may have to wait until he returns under a new name for your apology. 😀

  • 159 manxpie // Jan 6, 2016 at 2:30 PM

    Fair enough firebug but this has happened a couple of times now he’ll apologise then talk footy for a few days then revert back to his abnormal self again and then repeat until we’re here again

  • 160 dok - the horrid colonial // Jan 6, 2016 at 2:34 PM


    unfortunately, youre probably right… sad state of life…

  • 161 hibbitt // Jan 6, 2016 at 2:35 PM

    jib your a horrible little turd who should be flushed away

  • 162 firebug666 // Jan 6, 2016 at 2:35 PM


    He will only receive the benefit of doubt once from me, I was all fired up with him before the apology, but when a man makes that kind of apology some will accept it some will not, and for some the wounds are too deep.

    His track record from over the years show that he will return with a new persona, and ten minutes later everyone will know who it is.

  • 163 dok - the horrid colonial // Jan 6, 2016 at 2:40 PM

    this is the 3rd time hes tried this… im done with it… last time, I was told I wasn’t a true supporter since im stateside… was even called a joker, which in my neck of the woods is a racial (sexual derogatory) term…

    it does take a bit of love to get up at 5am to see nufc, and I haven’t missed more than a handful since the late 90s…

    im glad for the few who did convince me to stick around thru all the bs thats been heaped upon me… esp by him…

  • 164 manxpie // Jan 6, 2016 at 2:44 PM

    Good firebug it won’t take long then lol

  • 165 BandB // Jan 6, 2016 at 2:46 PM


    He may well get stronger sympathy from like-minded people.
    But it isn’t just a question of what the blog will tolerate.
    The blog doesn’t, ultimately police itself, as has been claimed.
    There are laws, from which his network of aliases will protect him for precisely no minutes.
    Then he can explain to them how “it doesn’t mean that in our house.”
    Please Jib, cut it out. For your own good.

  • 166 hibbitt // Jan 6, 2016 at 2:46 PM

    doc the guys a WUM takes pleasure in upsetting people and should just ignorEd ……….are new motto should be JIB OUT .COM

  • 167 firebug666 // Jan 6, 2016 at 2:49 PM


    A Fan is a Fan no matter where he/she comes from, I use to go to the games, I use to love this blog, I no longer get to the games but I will be damned if I will give up the blog to the wums and trolls.

    I enjoy reading your posts, and the distance makes no difference to your knowledge given our new technological age where information is there for all who want it, and opinions are meant to be debated, but remain opinions.

    Just because you live across the pond does not make you less of a fan or less knowledgeable, just ignore those who believe otherwise.

  • 168 Jib // Jan 6, 2016 at 2:50 PM

    I’m sorry
    I hadn’t realised Tsunki had done an impression of Loki.
    I thought you were referring to past rascist remarks which you alleged I made.
    You were included in my generic apology but this one is just for you.
    Truly sorry for any offence today and previously , other than the hurly burly of rigorous argument , no offence was intended.

  • 169 jakesome // Jan 6, 2016 at 2:50 PM

    Wait…..the word “joker” is derogatory?

  • 170 bettyswallocks // Jan 6, 2016 at 2:50 PM

    Come on lads and lasses…… Whilst there is no excuse for blatant racism in any walk of life, this is a footy blog ffs. If we are constantly waiting to pounce on anything that’s politically incorrect then it’s no longer a footy blog.

  • 171 BandB // Jan 6, 2016 at 2:55 PM


    Sadly for ‘old school’ types, there are not different laws for football blogs.

  • 172 firebug666 // Jan 6, 2016 at 2:55 PM


    I hope I am not being classed as a like minded person, I accepted his apology that’s all.

  • 173 BandB // Jan 6, 2016 at 2:58 PM


    Not at all.
    I was just pointing out that I expected to see more sympathetic posts than yours cropping up soon.
    Just not THAT soon.

  • 174 firebug666 // Jan 6, 2016 at 3:02 PM


    Oh I see,thank you.

    Well we may see Welshie in a bit but to be fair regardless of my accepting his apology, you cannot defend the indefeasible.

  • 175 BandB // Jan 6, 2016 at 3:12 PM


    The blog is read by men, woman and children of all ethnicities and faiths all over the world.
    It not a crowd of white lads watching strippers before the match in 1973.
    I’ve screen-shotted it along with previous examples.
    I don’t care who the author or authors are.
    I won’t be the one who’ll be finding out.

  • 176 dok - the horrid colonial // Jan 6, 2016 at 3:27 PM


    the term joker, when used inappropriately, is a derogotory term, and is one who engages in male-male relations…

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