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McClaren – Everyone Is Angry – Fans’ Frustration Overflows

6:37 pm, Saturday, January 9th, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 352 Comments

Steve McClaren has said everyone is angry at Newcastle and that’s after the fourth time in succession that we have been eliminated in the third round of the FA Cup, and that’s even after a goal this season was to win a cup.

Newcastle are also third bottom of the league with just 17 points from 20 league games – so  frustration is starting to overflow with the long-suffering Newcastle fans.

And that’s especially true after the absolutely pathetic performance of the side under John Carver in the second half of last season when we got 13 points from 19 games.

stave mcclran at watford 1-0

Steve McClaren on the touchline today

John Carver should never have been appointed to that position in the first place – it was way over his head – but then absolutely nothing was done about it and we nearly ended up being relegated on the final day of last season.

We were simply very lucky not to be a Championship club this season.

But then this season seems almost like a continuation of last season’s complete nightmare for Geordie fans.


It’s just that something is seriously wrong at Newcastle these days –  the club is being so poorly run from the top.

The traveling fans at the game even turned on Florian Thauvin singing – “You’re not fit to wear the shirt” – and at the end there was booing from the extremely frustrated fans.

After the game today this is what embattled Newcastle manager Steve McClaren had to say to BBC Sport:

“You cannot ask any more from the players, we have to get on with it, that is the nature of football.” “Players have to be big enough, bold enough, have courage and we have spoken about that.”

“Everyone is frustrated, we are angry, the same as them and the players are disappointed. We went to Arsenal and the performance was terrific.”

“It’s very frustrating, they had one opportunity there, from one mistake. We totally controlled the game and created chances. That’s football, you have to stick the ball in at one end and defend at the other.

“We came here to win, we came here with a strong team and we had a different system. We controlled the game. We played to win, we went to win and everyone is frustrated; everyone is angry.”

What we need now is a win against Manchester United at home on Tuesday night.

So somebody needs to score a goal for us at St. James’ Park on Tuesday night – or even an own goal would do it.

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  • 1 John Tudor // Jan 9, 2016 at 6:40 PM

    manure game
    same old same old
    ash perger out

  • 2 jazzyp // Jan 9, 2016 at 6:41 PM

    We totally controlled the game and created chances. That’s football, you have to stick the ball in at one end and defend at the other.
    Stevie boys own words, Both we suck at. And have done for a few seasons now

  • 3 BandB // Jan 9, 2016 at 6:41 PM

    Thirteen points from 19 games.
    Sounds quite a lot now, doesn’t it?

  • 4 John Tudor // Jan 9, 2016 at 6:43 PM

    near enough the same team to play manu apart from suspensions and injury same tictacs nil points

  • 5 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 6:43 PM

    Lose against Man U & we are really in deep sh..e . Trouble is if we were to win probably won’t spend. Then again if we do lose probably won’t spend.It will never happen but Cashley & Co must start engaging more with the fans. Remember going to Stoke to a Cup tie years ago and he was sat right near me. How times have changed

  • 6 John Tudor // Jan 9, 2016 at 6:44 PM

    mucca change the god damn record

  • 7 spitfire_ // Jan 9, 2016 at 6:44 PM


    Why 13? Try with 23.

  • 8 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 6:46 PM

    How are the injury stakes now. Have we still got more injuries than Liverpool?

  • 9 WWSBRD // Jan 9, 2016 at 6:46 PM

    Can we not ask that, every so often, the players maybe win a game

    McClarens for me has changed nothing on the pitch and spouts the same PR off it thing it’s time to try again with this brace new world crap

  • 10 John Tudor // Jan 9, 2016 at 6:47 PM

    colo has a split tiddler

  • 11 BandB // Jan 9, 2016 at 6:48 PM


    I was only quoting the figures Ed used to damn Carver.
    It struck me it didn’t sound ball park worse than 17 from 20, or maybe 17 from 21 soon.

  • 12 SPRINGY // Jan 9, 2016 at 6:48 PM

    so is tiote out of the manure game then?….if so who’s playing cm…..shelvey?lol…..yeah ryt!!

  • 13 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 6:48 PM

    We need 7 wins to stay up!Where are those going to come from? Only optimists need answer please. What is the record number of hours for NUFC without a goal?

  • 14 check the toastie // Jan 9, 2016 at 6:49 PM

    its clear we were the best side, the finishing was poor simple.

    Need two new strikers with PL experience Remy and Adebayor would actually be decent on loan for 6 month, Adebayor always does Ok at the start of a new venture, Mitrovic and Perez would be good from the bench.

    Thauvin had a nightmare there, hope the lad comes good he has ability but he’s had an awful start. Not many come back. All three are kids to be honest and it takes a lot of balls to pull on the shirt and be brave when things are going against the team.

    the effort is still there and on the positive side Tiote has made a difference.

    need Shelvey, Remy, Ben Yedder, José Enrique, monster centre back.

  • 15 John Tudor // Jan 9, 2016 at 6:49 PM

    yes even if shelvey signs he wont get in the team

  • 16 sparky55 // Jan 9, 2016 at 6:49 PM

    No other club on the planet would put up with our managers performance or constant drivel spouted out after every match.

    It’s pathetic and why Ashley is putting up with it when so much is at stake I just don’t know…it’s mind boggling.

  • 17 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 6:51 PM

    Lose after lose.Injury after injury. Are we going to try bringing in more sicknotes, : Carroll,Austin, Townsend etc

  • 18 John Tudor // Jan 9, 2016 at 6:51 PM

    ashley could not give a toss

  • 19 geordie157 // Jan 9, 2016 at 6:52 PM

    Need a big week now with a couple of signings and a point will do vs Utd.

    Shelvey and …..Benteke….ok too ambitious….Berahino….ok too much money…….Remy on loan sorted.

  • 20 John Tudor // Jan 9, 2016 at 6:52 PM

    read it and weep

  • 21 geordie157 // Jan 9, 2016 at 6:53 PM

    Bournemouth complete Afobe signing, decent signing to be fair

  • 22 U.S Magpie // Jan 9, 2016 at 6:54 PM

    Steve please for the love of God and the hard working tired fans of Newcastle United, either shut up with the same old shit or leave. If neither can happen at least walk into Penfolds or Mike office and tell them straight. Get me a phucking proven CB / plus a proven play maker for the middle of the park and a proven striker or you can stick this job up your arse. Do this without a grin and maybe throw the odd phuck or shit within the sentence and stop being a pussy.

  • 23 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 6:55 PM

    Good point CTT but is Henrique fit?We could also get Debuchy back on loan if Wenger doesn’t help out his mate Garde.It will only be short term fixes but can you see any one of Rmy, Adeybeyor, Austin or even Carroll moving out of London. much more likely to plum for Pards Palace or West Ham

  • 24 SPRINGY // Jan 9, 2016 at 6:55 PM

    geordie 157
    they cant of???……it takes us weeks to sign someone.. it must be a joke that another club can sign someone so quick!!!!!!!lol

  • 25 oldbobaycliffe // Jan 9, 2016 at 6:56 PM

    problem is who would you trust to bring in a couple of strikers to save our season.the only thing ashly can do is sack charnley carr and macclaren bring in someone like rafa and trust is his judgement he could,t do any worse

  • 26 John Tudor // Jan 9, 2016 at 6:56 PM

    well said usa mag but its
    never gonna happen
    what side would you like your bread buttered mike and how many sugars penny sweetie

  • 27 toon kk // Jan 9, 2016 at 6:57 PM

    Ffs of course it’s a continuing from last season, it’s mainly the same under par player’s, apart from wini the other millions were basically wasted.
    Poorly run club when will they ever learn?

  • 28 geordie157 // Jan 9, 2016 at 6:57 PM

    well almost….medical to be finalised. 10mill too.

  • 29 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 6:57 PM

    US Mag – I really like your style but regrettably not going to happen. Shy Steve might get shouted at

  • 30 BandB // Jan 9, 2016 at 6:58 PM

    I think if McClaren is will be with six games to go.
    If the new manager then fails, he’ll hear that he gave in to the fans, and look what happened.

  • 31 SPRINGY // Jan 9, 2016 at 6:58 PM

    west lancs
    enrique played last night for liverpool at cb so fit but dont nohow sharp he actually is tbh.

  • 32 Pootle2118 // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:00 PM

    Just read that Tiote is a target for Chinese side Shanghai Shenua and Stoke are considering a bid for Berahino

  • 33 Ian Toon // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:01 PM

    In January 2013, 5 of the 6 signings were in the last 9 days of the window. We need to ensure that were mobilised. The heavy lifting was mentioned earlier as having been done.

  • 34 SPRINGY // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:01 PM

    same formation against manure?

  • 35 John Tudor // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:01 PM

    cashley will start to sell his assets soon

  • 36 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:01 PM

    Well we’ll now see if Bournemouth’s courage pays off & the lad helps keeps em up. No guarantees but they are at least trying. They have an ambituous manager capable of managing at a much higher level in years to come.

  • 37 geordie157 // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:02 PM

    If not too expensive I’d take Okore from Villa.

  • 38 BandB // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:02 PM


    I think he’ll build on them 🙂

  • 39 John Tudor // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:02 PM

    before they become worthless

  • 40 Ian Toon // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:03 PM

    I like Berahino as a player but his attitude stinks. Mitro behaves like a stroppy teenager so we don’t need another.

  • 41 BandB // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:03 PM

    No, like in the Gallowgate car park.

  • 42 SPRINGY // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:04 PM

    even if berahino would sign…which im not convinced im not actually sure he would be at his best till it was to late as apparently he’s put on a canny bit of timber and might not be at his best for a while

  • 43 ochytoon // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:05 PM

    Will Steve ever realise that performances mean nothing if you don’t get results. He can harp on and on about Arsenal as much as he wants but we lost then, and we’ve lost today. It’s more empty words from an empty man.

  • 44 John Tudor // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:05 PM

    we will be seeing a scrap between players if this continues gini and mitro squared up today 50yds apart

  • 45 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:05 PM

    Same team against Man U . Well really he hasn’t a whole lot of options.
    Well JT if Cashley does start selling the crown jewels then it’s the end because last time he did we got away with it – just! but bouncing back straight away just won’t happen again with this shower

  • 46 eaststandgeordie1982 // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:05 PM

    Time to go all out for remy

  • 47 Ian Toon // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:06 PM

    What a shocking game. Can you please play like this on Tuesday!

  • 48 JamesToon // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:07 PM

    We are in much more trouble at the moment than we ever were last year, why? Because teams above and below us are improving and strengthening. Bournemouth are about to make their second signing in Afobe and just beat Birmingham with their 2nd string team featuring a load of teens who’ve never made a senior appearance before!!!

    Just shows how badly run out club is

  • 49 SPRINGY // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:08 PM

    okore is big strong lad but cant see villa selling him to a relegation rival…. lamine kone for 5m would be an idea…but would they be good enough?

  • 50 JamesToon // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:08 PM

    Mcclaren, Ashley, Carr, Charnley all need to go. Need people who know their football, who care and know who to run a club like ours properly

  • 51 geordie157 // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:08 PM

    well we’ve still got our humour with chants of…You’re not that special, we lose every week

  • 52 Thump // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:08 PM

    Watching the highlights it’s an even bigger slap in the face. Gini shouldn’t be able to sleep tonight after that pass.

  • 53 JamesToon // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:09 PM


    Please no more foreigners, we need players who know the league and are ready to fight NOW not players who may need 10 games to get used to the league

  • 54 Ibizatoon // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:10 PM

    What a surprise…another early cup exit. Hey, it was to Watford though.

    Can anyone seriously tell me how we’re better off now, than we were a year ago? Is anyone still arguing that the club called it right in the summer? Did enough? Made a bold statement?

    As per usual, it seems like hot air with little delivery.

    BandB…Has anyone stabbed a guess at the retail value for the development? From my experience, building costs for a site are usually in the 30-40% bracket, so circa £100m maybe? That’s a nice tidy profit for MASH holdaings in there. Still, Mike isn’t taking anything out of the club. Check the accounts. No wages, dividends…he hasn’t even recalled his loan!

    I can forgive another early cup exit, as long as Mike continues to try his hardest.

  • 55 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:11 PM

    Forget Remy .He’s going to Palace as Pards said he’s not interested in him or Shelvey you watch.
    Springy you’re right Berehino has put on loads of weight & is also trouble which we’ve got by the shedload.
    When is Carr going to pluck his next rabbit out of the hat? Soon I hope but all these players being mention are just hope value. In the position we are in we just can’t wait till the last week of the window when prices start to inflate anyway. We need to start recruiting now & getting rid of the dross.

  • 56 Ayozeserious // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:14 PM

    I’ve been reading this blog for many years and this is the first time I’ve posted. Today’s defeat yet again proves that the club is ripe for relegation if drastic action is not taken. We are crying out for a goal poacher like Austin. A creative central midfielder who isn’t afraid to put in a shift for the team. Shelvey in my mind is no worldbeater but with his premier league experience he could be just what we need for the difficult run in we have also a centre back. And left full back are a must a winger would be nice aswell maybe Philips at Qpr. All in all 5 players fifty million would be a good net spend. And if we can clear some of the dead wood all the better.

  • 57 SPRINGY // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:15 PM

    james toon
    understand mate but who?…..we are struggling to get players from abroad who probs dont see the nightmare this club has become every week and are alot cheaper…decent premier league players will be giving us a very wide berth and alot more money….but if we manage to sign some great but struggling to see that happen…..shelvey maybe?

  • 58 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:15 PM

    54 Sheltered housing might be a good bet. At least there would be an option for some of these none performing players when they find themselves out of work.

  • 59 2_goal_tino // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:16 PM

    To accomoany the ‘you’re not that special, we lose every week’ there was also ‘it’s only one nil, it’s only one nil, you’re not very good, it’s only one nil’

  • 60 SPRINGY // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:17 PM

    evening ibiza
    hows the weather?lol

  • 61 Ibizatoon // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:18 PM

    Springs…Lovely, thank you. Had a few days of storms, even an earthquake I apparently slept through, but the sun is out again. So I shant complain. About the weather anyway 🙂

  • 62 John Tudor // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:19 PM

    bargains from the lower leagues?

    coventry have a kid who knows where the onion bag is

  • 63 Ibizatoon // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:21 PM

    Or Springy….Sorry!

  • 64 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:21 PM

    McLaren is now on the bare bones but he still won’t pick Riviere, Marvaux, Gouffy & for some unknown reason Aarons. Taylor &Obertan have overstayed their sick leave & should be only on Statuary Sick Pay like most of the rest of Tyneside would under normal situations. It’s a joke if there not good enough get rid or at the very least replace with some better quality. We have to watch number in squad though & injuries is certainly not helping this situation

  • 65 SPRINGY // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:21 PM

    if aarons was fitter and sharper i might be tempted to play him up with mitro until we sign someone… just and some out right pace up front…. but he’s not anywhere near ready by the look of things

  • 66 John Tudor // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:22 PM

    even though manure cannot break down sheff utd they wont have a problem against us

  • 67 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:23 PM

    JT – don’t you mean NUFC reserves/youth

  • 68 SPRINGY // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:24 PM

    sunshine?…whats that?….think its pissed down or foggy or overcast for three weeks!…..enjoy mate!lol

  • 69 Bri // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:25 PM

    All we are saying is give us a goal. If we do manage to score a goal on Tuesday, Manure will probably score 2.
    Can’t wait for the day when Ashley sells up. The club is in a shocking mess run by a bunch of second raters not worthy of NUFC.

  • 70 toon kk // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:26 PM

    Is there any teams in the championship we’re capable of beating? I’m not so sure. We could easily slip away much quicker than we think.

  • 71 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:27 PM

    Will Colo be fit for Man U ?or will it be Willo the Weak or even Saylor who should be back this week. Mouthwatering prospects but most likely the promising Lascelles – a man bought for the future!

  • 72 angelswithdirtyfaces // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:28 PM

    I hope for and expect a reaction against Manure – who are vulnerable anyway.
    Anger can be a good motivator.
    I think we’ll beat them with another performance like the 3-0 a few years back.

    But that could be a mixed blessing. All that does managerially is muddy the waters – Ashley will be getting mixed messages – after 5 games with one goal we score 3 even 4 and he’ll think we’ve turned a corner. Should have had 3 today from the chances wasted. Unlike some I think Mitro will come good and be a top scorer – he is taking longer to settle than we had hoped and has been starved of service in a lot of games.

    We still need 4 players. LB CB playmaker AM ST.
    Today good players who will adapt quickly are more likely to start at around £15m than £10m. And we have just over three weeks to strengthen the team. I still believe the club will bottle it.

  • 73 BandB // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:29 PM


    I think we yoked half the horse to the cart in the summer and then said “hang on a bit….let’s see how he manages that first.”
    Now the cart is going round in circles, the poor old horse is dizzy, and the harness is wrecked.

  • 74 SPRINGY // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:30 PM

    toon kk
    it makes you think….considering sheff wed done number on us at home so easily….u could be right coz the players like nolan barton simpson battled there way back….we lack battlers except tiote..even he’s not what he was…hes playing areet again but not where he was.

  • 75 BandB // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:30 PM

    I think we can beat Manchester Utd too, if we can score just one goal.

  • 76 John Tudor // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:31 PM

    are you richard dinnis in disguise

  • 77 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:33 PM

    Ayoz 56 Welcome to the Blog. I love your optimism (like a breath of fresh air) Hope you are right. If Cashley don’t splash the cash wisely we are doomed. Don’t be afraid to say what you think mate.

  • 78 Ibizatoon // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:33 PM

    Springy…Sorry to hear that and trust me, I will!

    BandB…Sounds about right. Quite responsible really. I mean, if it had worked, it would have been quite the achievement.

  • 79 jane // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:34 PM

    it’s fine lines in the last few matches we’ve missed chances, made defensive mistakes, conceded a late goal, had some good performances. the defence has considerable improved. sooner or later you would think the balance will just tip the other way and Man U who are almost as poor in front of goal will hopefully be it.

  • 80 lesh // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:34 PM

    Ah ha! Eureka!

    McClaren played a shrewd game today.

    ManU will be lulled into thinking there’s no need to worry about defending and we’ll be free to hammer them!

    A cunning plan eh.

  • 81 SPRINGY // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:35 PM

    mitro had some nice flicks, touches and held up well but does need to work harder and needs a bit luck…but he does need time…he’s came into a poor side lacking confidence and 21 is a big move to the toughest league in europe…another striker will take the pressure off him and might help get him some goals

  • 82 BandB // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:37 PM


    That’s a brilliant name.

  • 83 John Tudor // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:37 PM

    we have a bid in for Pancetta
    doubt well get him a pig of a centre half

  • 84 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:38 PM

    B & B i”ll tell you what if we don’t f…ing score we certainly won’t f…ing win!What are the odds on us scoring after not scoring in 4 games & only scoring once in over 7.5 hours? Ask BetFred!
    Now what to you think about that from the thinking man’s Geordie?

  • 85 BandB // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:40 PM

    These new lads are carrying the weight of a lot of expectation, while those being paid as much and more have been trench-dodging for years.

  • 86 SPRINGY // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:40 PM

    welcome ayoze
    50m would be good spent right….but seems like we are struggling to attract any players at the min

  • 87 Ibizatoon // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:40 PM

    Back in the summer, everyone has their list of things they wanted addressing.

    Does it really differ now?

    Better communication, not just the same thing over and over?

    A team that tries? Some would say we have that now. I’d say we have some players who try at different times. That’s not a team that tries.

    A better defense? We’ve not conceded too many lately, but over the season?

    A goal scorer? I really like Perez and Mitrovich, but they cannot be expected to front a club such as this, with top 8 and winning a cup ambitions at this stage of their career. Just common sense.

    A balanced midfield? We still have players playing out of position. We lack proper depth.

    It’s all the same issues, the same PR speak and not suprisingly, the same results. Still, we avoided the drop last season…

  • 88 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:42 PM

    So we are just UNLUCKY then – just like we’ve been for the past 25 years or more?

  • 89 BandB // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:42 PM


    “If we score we could win” isn’t the quite same argument as “if we score just one goal we could win.”
    Is it?

  • 90 toon kk // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:44 PM

    I think everyone is so pi55ed off,at least I certainly am. There’s so many issues at our club that need addressing, the board seems to get a kick out of “we’ll do it our way attitude” either over looking problems for what ever reason or are they just so unexperienced? I’m not so sure.

  • 91 angelswithdirtyfaces // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:44 PM

    Springy – aye, reckon a new ST might well pull his trigger and he’ll start knockin them in.

    BUT … we need to bring the right players in
    “From this day forward, we’ll definitely be making our own luck” – Mike Ashley, May 2015

  • 92 Mag52 // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:44 PM

    John Tudor.

    Pancetta ? That’s Ashley’s takeaway isn’t it ?

  • 93 John Tudor // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:48 PM

    aye the porky pig

  • 94 Ibizatoon // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:48 PM

    Angels @91…Thanks for that. I had printed and laminated that quote as an inspirational piece back in May, but left it in Ibiza…I feel much calmer now.

    “Definitely”. Phew.

  • 95 toon22 // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:50 PM


    If you look in Goals – Season 2015-2016 own goal is joint 6th with 1.

  • 96 John Tudor // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:53 PM

    you don’t make your own luck
    it is bestowed to you from on high

    the PL gaffers say NO

  • 97 Ibizatoon // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:55 PM

    Mikey doesn’t like being told no…Don’t do it PL gaffers…just don’t do it!

    Mike wants to win something whilst not really trying and ideally not spending anymore money. Come on, be reasonable.

  • 98 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:55 PM

    Comforting thought :
    Longest Premier League streak without scoring:

    Nine games without scoring:

    Crystal Palace (Nov 1994-Jan 1995)
    But they weren’t relegated & finished 4th from bottom after reaching semi final in both cups
    We’ve a long way to go then yet to get this record. NUFC went six home games without scoring apparently from March – Aug 2007.
    And Sorry B&B I wasn’t trying to take the piss but everybody is just so frustrated at present.

  • 99 BandB // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:55 PM

    I thought about this when he said it?
    Doesn’t luck tend to even itself out over time, whether you roll your own or not?
    I hope he forgets luck and makes some rational decisions.

  • 100 catchy in norway // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:56 PM


  • 101 magpie_in_ohio // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:57 PM

    “You can’t ask any more from the players….” Are you kidding me. How about not going 400 plus minutes without scoring a goal? How about being more responsible with the ball? How about a stronger spine?

    That said, this is less of a player problem. This is a management problem. You can’t operate a successful football club (or business for that matter) on the cheap. Bring in proven Premier League players. Stop trolling second/third tier leagues in France, Spain, and Belgium for teenagers. Blind pigs occasionally find acorns (Ayoze). That is the exception, not the rule.

    Big Fast Bastard is consumed with money. And, from what I’m lead to believe is a ‘shrewd’ sweatshop owner, I mean businessman. Looking at this purely from an expected value perspective, investing $20-$30M wisely and increasing your chances to stay up to 70-80%, is a much better investment than investing $10M with a 20% chance of staying in the Premiership.

    Just so very frustrated….

  • 102 John Tudor // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:57 PM

    one hundred and eighty

  • 103 BandB // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:57 PM

    Many happy returns, Catchy.

  • 104 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:57 PM

    In that season 94/95 CP were the league’s lowest scorers -34 all season so we need to get our shooting boots on !

  • 105 John Tudor // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:58 PM

    truffles aye ashers has ate a few

  • 106 tomellifred360 // Jan 9, 2016 at 7:59 PM

    Got home 30 mins ago thoroughly wet and depressed. Unhappy with a number of our so called stars. I forgot Mitro was on the pitch. He lacks mobility and has no confidence at all. Janmaat had a poor game after a few early sorties up the right. His passing is very poor. Tiote can only pass backwards. If anyone offers us decent money for Perez we should snatch their hands off! What is Gini’s role within the team? Could go on but wont.

  • 107 Belfast // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:00 PM

    He seems to say the exact same thing after every defeat.

  • 108 Our Toon // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:01 PM

    Alot of anger tonight, my biggest gripe is with the team selection, we played well and lost. Think the 2 youngsters need an experienced head with them. Confidence seems at a low for both forwards as it’s showing.

    All players will have a blip, youngsters more so than experienced players (excluding rooney who’s finished) although I was against remy I think a loan deal makes sense. Surprised we have made a move for Afobe who looks like he’s off to Bournemouth….pace power etc. Dropping Gini deeper today made no sense either, Aarons as a wing back….bonkers.

    I’m not arsed about the cup this year as relegation threat is the biggest fear.

  • 109 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:01 PM

    “At half time Steve McClaren brought on Jamaal Lascelles for Fabricio Coloccini which seemed a strange move to make.”

    haha. Is the penny dropping with Makro? I do feel some (not much) sympathy for him given he’s got little firepower.

    It wasn’t that long ago half the blog was telling me Mitro and Perez would do the business. And many have been calling for Makro to include Thauvin. Dear me.

  • 110 SPRINGY // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:02 PM

    i see they offering sissoko a pay rise to make him profitable if we sell him at the end of the season

  • 111 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:03 PM

    Ibizatoon 87. Spot on mate but when have the present powers that be ever taken constructive criticism like that on board? Never. They couldn’t care less bout the fans – think we know nowt!

  • 112 Our Toon // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:04 PM

    I couldn’t give 2 hoots as to where Tiote passes it as long as it’s to a teammate. He’s not in the team to be a ball playing midfielder. His job is to protect the back 4 which he’s done ok / well in the games he’s played.

  • 113 John Tudor // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:06 PM

    so it boils down to this

    cheapskate owner
    piss poor head scout (probably watches more mucky vids)
    very poor one trick pony manager(no game plans or if he has there crap)
    and poor players(badly motivated)

  • 114 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:06 PM

    Mick Lowes and John Anderson were slating the effort and commitment from some of the players, Mitro in particular who, they said, didn’t run around. Then Lowesie interviews Makro and says nothing when Makro says he couldn’t fault the commitment. Joke interviews.

  • 115 BandB // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:08 PM

    One trick pony, Tudor?
    Isn’t it supposed to be a horse?

  • 116 John Tudor // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:08 PM

    too scared in case they get barred

  • 117 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:08 PM

    Makes sense Springy especially with Colo & Marvaux on £60k pw & Gouffy & Obertan on £35 K with Saylor having played about 20 games in 4 seasonss on £35K pw It’s a complete nonsense!

  • 118 John Tudor // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:09 PM

    is a horse a pony or a donkey hybred

  • 119 John Tudor // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:10 PM

    ok he is a one trick donkey

  • 120 toon kk // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:11 PM

    I take it you weren’t very impressed with our team performance?

  • 121 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:12 PM

    We lack firepower. But if De Jong is the answer, the question must be “Who do you want on the list of deadwood to clear out?” I really hope bloggers have seen the light and no longer see him as the saviour.

  • 122 optimistic prime // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:13 PM

    What’s up with Steeve changing the formation but not the players?

    Seemed a very odd decision to me, I really don’t get Steeve.

  • 123 John Tudor // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:13 PM

    i always saw him as a clapped out triumph spitfire

  • 124 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:14 PM

    Remy whilst I don’t like the guy as money grabber, on loan he may again do the business but I hope Chelski will be paying half his wages with perhaps a proviso that if he scores over a dozen goals and keeps us up we’ll pay the rest at the end of the season. Have the likes of City no decent strikers they could lend us. You notice I didn’t say CBs with Mangala & Demechelis there.

  • 125 BandB // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:16 PM

    One trick’s alright, Tudor, if it works.
    Getting beat’s a rotten trick.

  • 126 bladeuser // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:16 PM

    Putting it as simple as I can F@@@ of Smac

  • 127 cyprus // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:17 PM

    OK first off, this was not important, seems we played well can’t score. Let me think; we need a CF pronto, right?

    Over to you, er, Carr.

  • 128 John Tudor // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:17 PM

    you missed an f off

  • 129 OneAlanShearer // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:17 PM

    Toon kk – personally I see the board as a puppet. Ashleys PR buffer. It’s his money, his club, his way, his complete and utter mess. Only he can sanction buying what is required. If he really was serious about making his own luck he’d buy what was needed now.straight in with what we need. The thing is we need a minimum of 4 players and it’s got to low point where as fans we actually hope for the minimum as that is the extent of his ambition. JUST ENOUGH TO STAY UP if we are lucky

  • 130 John Tudor // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:18 PM

    hold on till carr puts his porn stash away and looks

  • 131 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:20 PM

    B & B 121 My List of deadwood : Obertan, Willo, Riviere, Marvaux, Gouffy, Colo,Saylor, De Jong,Cisse,Vukic but several are long term injured. This Would certainly prune the wage bill but who would take them & what sort of quality replacements would we get. As things stand minimum need two strikers, midfield playmaker, decent winger who can cross, two quality CBs and two half decent full backs all who must not be injury prone. Tall order indeed

  • 132 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:23 PM

    Oh & the players who come in must hit the ground running. Sorry no time for bedding in.

  • 133 Moonraker15 // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:24 PM

    Loic Remy yes; but I don’t see why you think Chelski should pay half his wages. We’ve got the funds to pay his wages just need to offload some of the dross we’ve accumulated under these deadbeat scouts and coaches. If you want quality you’ve got ta pay for it and boy do we need quality up front.

  • 134 BandB // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:24 PM

    We have to start with a player who can convert some of those chances Mitrovic and Perez are missing now. That seems the first and obvious thing to try.

  • 135 jimiley // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:25 PM

    There is no need to panic but we are in a difficult position. We need to be patient. Rome was not built in a day. Nobody expected us to get a result at Watford and we still have the same number of points in the league. Nothing has been lost after losing to a top Watford team. We can stay in this league. We expect no more from our club.Survival is everything. Next year the club will get 140 million. Imagine who we could buy. Survival could mean an assault on the title next season.

  • 136 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:25 PM

    All inmaterial as the unknown is what is on Cashley’s wish list. Yeah it all comes back to him every time.

  • 137 John Tudor // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:28 PM

    go all out for roy race and the young winger raven

  • 138 toon22 // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:28 PM

    SMC looks and sounds like he is going to burst into tears,if he dont walk or is sacked we are getting religated no matter what cheap tat they drag through the door.
    MA is fully to blame for the utter turmoil we find ourselves in for almost every year he has owned us.

  • 139 John Tudor // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:29 PM

    jim we have to be in to get it

    we wont

  • 140 Mister Tuff // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:29 PM

    Just as well it wasn’t a league game today – just as well out of the cup -as we have not got the cover for two competitions. Priority has to be the PL.
    Today should make it clear to the “board” that we are rubbish – if the defects are not addressed it will be criminal.
    Wally has already said they’ve identified what they need.
    Really the new board “who will not make the same unknown mistakes” seemed to have made wrong assessments in the summer and not strengthened in the requisite areas.
    This month Wally and his team will have input their assessments – let’s see the standard of player purchased in the coming weeks.
    If rubbish are bought — the crowd will turn in a few weeks.

  • 141 lesh // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:29 PM

    Maybe McClaren’s experienced our fans’ frustration for the first time.

    They’ve given him and the players their full support and he must realise that as the only visible reference to Ashley, that they’re on the receiving end of their frustration.

    Again, the manager’s at the receiving end of discontent and it’s about time that Ashley and his puppet Charnley face the fans – or better still, Ashley act decisively to avoid relegation and address the lack of competence in his so called Football Board.

  • 142 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:30 PM

    Moon raker- but he’s probably on £100K pw + at Chelski & that’s almost twice our top paid. That could cause friction. The real bug bear is offloading the high paid none performers who are still under contract, some injured. We’re lumbered with then but you know Cashley he will want to free up funds & we don’t this to come from selling the crown jewels

  • 143 Moonraker15 // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:31 PM

    McClaren is playing the same style as when he failed to get Derby promoted. Loads of possession and not enough goals. I remember the playoff final versus QPR when they played them off the park and lost to a Zamora goal. Familiar? He doesn’t get it but thinks playing well and losing every week should not be criticised.

  • 144 BandB // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:33 PM


    If you told Ashley the football board was incompetent, he’d ask you to point out where it says that in the accounts.

  • 145 toon kk // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:33 PM

    What was the logic behind part exchanging Cabella for Tauvin? Did they think he had a better potential sell on value?
    Our scouting ffs

  • 146 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:34 PM

    I’m sorry to say but get ready for the banners & protests after the Man U game as defeat will certainly bring revolting fans who will need to force their complaints loudly well before the window shuts in the hope it will get some decent response

  • 147 cyprus // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:34 PM

    I’m assuming you are being ironic but you are spot on. With that kind of money, teams like Leicester can compete at the top and Chelseas can look pedestrian. We must stay in this new PL.

  • 148 Moonraker15 // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:37 PM

    We’ve gone past the point of worrying about causing friction. If Remy was to score 10 to 15 goals it would probably keep us up and that’s worth 135 million next season.
    If Charnley’s trying to play hardball on transfer fees we’re on a loser cos they all know we’re in deep sh1t .

  • 149 toonbrother // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:37 PM

    As usual colocinni costs us a goal
    As usual NUFC fans and Steve McMoron bury their heads in the sand

  • 150 Munster Mag // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:38 PM

    I think the fans have to be careful now, because if we turn on the team, heads will fall and we may be tailed off with Villa while we watch Sam survive. Its bizarre, but the very managers that lots of NUFC fans hate, namely Pardew and Sam, are, and could be , the ones rubbing our noses in the dirt at the end of the season. As for our signing, I have said from the West Ham game the Thaivin is awful and full encapsulates Carr’s stupid obsession with tricky french players. Carr needs to be sacked , and please, dont give me the excuse about Ashley controlling the budget and Csarr being forced to buy dross. The 73 yr old halfwit spent 14mill on Thauvin, having wasted more along the way on Marv, Amalfitano, the skinny Marseilles guy etc. Our chance is that we are creating chances. One win, with a striker purchased, could give us enough lift to scrapoe out of the bottom 3. It could really hurt if Bournemouth score goals via the Wolves striker. That could be painful to watch, a bit like Thauvin trying to fun fast.

  • 151 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:39 PM

    Moon raker Tell you one player I’d go for at Derby- Championship player of the month – Tom Ince. Has premiership experience when with Blackpool, then went off but now back to playing exceptionally well . He’s quick, skilful, can score goals, cross a ball & he’s English & McL knows about him. Probably cost maybe £8M

  • 152 John Tudor // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:43 PM

    you know what ashley do wtf you like i along with a lot of others are done with your shambolic tenure
    we will however be back when you fakc off

  • 153 Moonraker15 // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:45 PM

    You know the fans won’t turn on the players if they’re giving it a go against Man U .
    I think Tuesday will be like the West Ham game last season and if it is we will beat them.
    Actually we need a couple of mis hits to go in rather than a quality goal and the confidence will come back. We don’t have a problem getting up for the big games and the current Man U team is not great is it?

  • 154 BandB // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:46 PM

    This isn’t an either or situation though, is it?
    Like we either have to try to force Ashley or try to force “the board” out as an alternative.
    Ashley can solve the board problem, if that’s where the problem lies, simply by sacking it
    Not too many would complain.
    So why doesn’t he?
    He needn’t do it all at once.

  • 155 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:47 PM

    The job of Head of Recuitment is as much about getting players out as getting them in. How well is Carr doing his job?

  • 156 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:48 PM

    M M tend to agree with you Bournemouth Swansea, Norwich & Makems have to be our target teams to stay above. Paris couldd make things difficult for us with rumours about his interest in Remy, Carroll, & Shelvey. & agree the day of the fancy French boy about town players like Thauvin & Marvaux should be our first offloads – they are simply not good enough for the Prem. French League is much weaker hence they will look good when playing in it. Think Carr is now completely out of touch after his initial luck with the likes of Sissoko, Cabs & Debuchy.I’d have Debuchy back in present circumstances on loan though

  • 157 toon kk // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:49 PM

    Clearly Macca has signed the same contract as p45 did, comprising with players out of position, explaining ridiculous decisions as if he agreed? Only MA could do it.

  • 158 Moonraker15 // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:51 PM

    Yes Ince! But why not just go flat out for Charlie Austin? He scores goals!!!!!’

  • 159 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:52 PM

    Blackley The fact is he isn’t ! I think our two posts crossed. Problem is how does he get the dross out. Only real option is to loan back to French League teams and recoup the wages. Sicknotes are a much bigger problem

  • 160 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:52 PM

    The other day you called me a boring lying offensive tosser. Why did you call me a liar? All because you reckon I pretend to have a ST.

    I said we’d arranged to meet so I could show you my ST. You were a no show. Your reply:
    expatmag // Jan 7, 2016 at 11:30 AM
    Rubbish… arrangement was made for me to meet you before the Chelsea game. I had other arrangements that day anyway as I was only in the UK for a short time.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ expatmag // Aug 14, 2015 at 1:56 PM
    As a veritable stranger, you decide the time and place, either before the Watford or Chelsea game. Matter less to me. Happy for you to buy the pints too

    Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 14, 2015 at 2:25 PM
    The Watford game I’ll be lucky to make the K.O. because I’ll be doing the Yorkshire dash, but I will be free afterwards. For the Chelsea game, my boy’s playing at Cardiff but because the Chelsea game is a late K.O., I might try to take both games in with a dash from Wales. Either way I’ll be available afterwards.

    At the time of the Chelsea game I was on this blog trying to pin you down. I can provide you with those relevant posts too if you like.

    Others can judge which of us was created by Geppetto.

  • 161 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:54 PM

    Moonraker we’ll take em both they are completely different players

  • 162 toon22 // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:55 PM

    Blackey whats the pay like @

  • 163 lesh // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:55 PM


    You’re so right about Ashley referring to the accounts but that might have been his response a couple of weeks ago.

    I honestly believe that the confidence he had/ has in Charnley and Carr was at a level he was happy with. He’d see them as incompetent in SD terms yet competent enough, in their incompetence, to keep the Club in the Prem.

    He’s got it wrong – those two along with McClaren and Moncur, have exceeded Ashley’s expectations – they’re even more incompetent than he’d believed possible.

    Can we hope that he cares enough to give a few minutes of his precious time, the time he’ll be giving to SD’s prospects and just get a head-hunter on the case to recruit a new MD for next season and take his horse’s reins off Charnley before even it runs away.

  • 164 Pootle2118 // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:56 PM

    Well, I’ll try and bang this drum once more..

    CF..Adebayor…Free Agent…proven PL & Champions League goalscorer…give him his 100k p/w for the 6 months left, that’s only 2.5M give or take

    AM…Ronhaldihno…Free agent….played in most of top leagues in Europe and CL + WC winner not to mention world class…give him 250k p/w for 6 months, that’s only 6M ish

    CD..Ron Vlaar…Free agent…proven PL defender, voted one of the best CD at last WC…give him 50k p/w and a possible contract extension if we stay up

    If we bring all of these players in, there wouldn’t be much in the way of an initial outlay. Even factering in wages and signing on fees, it would still appeal to the Fatman as they would cost way way less than any other quality players he could bring in. Both Adebayor & Vlaar would be happy to get back into a football team, if I remember rightly, Adebayor was considering offers from Villa & Watford. As for Ronhaldinho, it’s an offer to play in the biggest league in Europe that he’s yet to play in. I have no doubt in my mind that everyone will dismiss this as total tosh but if you take into consideration that initially, only a 6 month contract is on offer and, for two of them it’s a chance to get back in the ‘shop window’ and for the other, a chance to add a EPL club to his glittering career, it does make a bit of sense and it’s not beyond the realms of possibilities IMO.

  • 165 AsprillaCartWheels // Jan 9, 2016 at 8:59 PM

    Relegation is inevitable. We have been playing crap football ever since dreamboat left. I would trim down the wages and move out all the deadwoods and start blooding the young ones.. recall arma, we need his goals…

  • 166 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:00 PM

    “In Carr we Trust”. Dear me.

    We had some decent signings initially, which is when I thought he was doing a decent job. He didn’t live up to it.

  • 167 Munster Mag // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:04 PM

    Blackley….in answer to your question, he’s doing a crap job. The bigger problem is that he is the Director of Football, essentially at NUFC. He decided contrary to what Pardew wanted re football players bought …ie useless little french blokes when Pardew asked for something different…put it this way, if we sack SMC, who will decide the next manager …who will recommend the name(s) ? Its ALL Carr in terms of resourcing, direction, management etc. He is Ashleys guru. There is no point worrying about Charnley. He is an irrevelance. Carr is where its at in terms of power brokerage. I’ve been banging this drum for 2 years now and its just so frustrating. In the short term, Ashley did well. he spent 50 mill and sacked the useless dross of last year. Its Carr that has too much power invested in him.

  • 168 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:05 PM

    Can’t understand why McCl took the job in the first place because the likes of Klopp who saw thro Ashley as did every every other likely candidate .But Mclaren didn’t. Fact was he was out of work & the money is probably quite good but he was never going to be The Manager with authority to make his own signings so at the end of the day he’ll think he can’t be blamed, although Cashley will make him the scapegoat as and when he needs to. MA is in driving seat as he has given him £55M at start of season as promised. It was up to McMoron to blend the 5/6 players he brought in into the team & sorry to say he hasn’t managed it. YET

  • 169 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:08 PM

    It helps the blog in the long run if false allegations are swiftly put to bed and everyone knows who’s who. Don’t you think so?

    I can’t do anything about accusations of multiples, which get beyond a joke. Apparently, the other day, some wise wag who wanted to play the man had me as TDS.

  • 170 geordie157 // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:08 PM

    Vlaar has gone back to Holland

    Adebayor no thanks.

    Ronaldinho pass.

    bring in a cb or lb, plus Shelvey and Remy (loan) that will make a big difference.

  • 171 BandB // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:09 PM


    If Ashley thinks the board are incompetent, why doesn’t he just sack them?
    One possible explanation might conceivably consider is that for his own reasons he doesn’t think they are incompetent, and they are meeting targets he knows about and approves.
    I can’t imagine he awards many marks for style.
    We went right to the wire last season and no-one was changed, and and when it was over, the board remained in the clear.
    What had they achieved that Carver hadn’t?
    He paid with his job.

  • 172 toon kk // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:14 PM

    At the end of the day Cashley is the victim of his own downfall, he’s the only one who can make changes, someone with clearly NO football knowledge should if he had half a brain seek professional advice. NUFC is not a budget sports tat shop.

  • 173 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:15 PM

    Completely agree Blackley but Cashley knows nowt about football only buying sports & casual wear cheap & selling it on at a massive profit. Moves into football employs Carr for exactly the same job only with footballers. Works well with the likes of Cabs & Debuchy etc but now all turned sour. Question is does Ashley stick with the geriatric Carr or move in A.N.Other. Watch this space & see if he gambles in the January window or sticks. My money is with Pootle with several loan acquisition in the hope that keeps us up. Problem is getting wastrels out of door in next couple of weeks

  • 174 lesh // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:16 PM


  • 175 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:18 PM

    Again with loan moves it’s who will want to come & who is good enough as they will be everyone else rejects

  • 176 YoungMagpieFromBurnley // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:18 PM

    Really lost for words, I reckon we’re definitely down.

  • 177 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:18 PM

    Munster @ 167
    I too have been saying that Carr holds the power as far as any football decisions are concerned. He has been the de facto director of football. As I recall I had this debate with Ibiza.

    I’m not sure where exactly he stands now with Makro being a director? But I can’t imagine his influence has been watered down too much.

    Makro will have to leave the board room when his future is discussed as the next item on the agenda. Carr and Charnley will have a conference call with Ashley while Bobby makes the coffee.

  • 178 BandB // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:19 PM


    (They run towards each other across field)

  • 179 Pootle2118 // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:19 PM


    I’d quite happily have Shelvey, unfortunately he wants to go back to London. Remy, yes but, unfortunately he wants to stay in London. I’d quite happily take Enrique and Debuchy back, on loan or permanent, to boost the defence. Unfortunately though, it’ll all depend on who Carr suggests to bring in balanced with who is the cheapest option, regardless of what we need.

  • 180 Munster Mag // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:20 PM

    West Lancs, i wud be surprised if he sacked him. maybe Carr might retire and he can suggest a nice pay off but he wont be aggressively booted out.

  • 181 firebug666 // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:21 PM

    I might have calmed down enough to start posting again.

    I think Ashley will be happy with the incompetence of the board, all they have to do this season is finish 17th or just above, that shouldn’t be a big ask for a team like Newcastle….Should it?

    Ashley still gets his SD exposure and the TV money, and the fans can get more of the same next season. Job done by Penfold and Co.

    If we do go down Ashley still has plenty of money making options before cutting loose the shell of what was once a fantastic footballing club.

    The only losers are the fan, and that will always be the case, because we will NEVER UNITE and do something about it.

  • 182 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:23 PM

    So now then who is on this deadwood list Blackley 121 asked for over an hour ago or do you all agree with the names I put on it? If so how does the Club off load them? With difficulty I suggest.

  • 183 lesh // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:23 PM


    You’ve expressed exactly what I suggested in that whilst he’d be a total liability in other businesses, he’d be competent enough to keep us in the Prem.

    Ashley’s probably saw last season a near miss but an understandable given Charnley was new to the top job.

    But this season, Charnley and Carr’s incompetence will have exceeded even Ashley’s low expectations.

    Given Ashley’s problems with SD, I’d like to think he might just take matters out of Charnley’s hands and bring in Rednapp or some saviour manager to avoid the drop.

  • 184 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:24 PM

    Ashley is showing he cannot get the football side right. He’s got bigger fish to fry so he delegates, which might be as well given his own football knowledge. However, he’s shown he’s incapable of employing the right people and getting the set up right. If he can’t get it right after this length of time, what chance is there?

  • 185 BandB // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:25 PM


    If not for last season’s game of Russian Roulette, I’d be 100 per cent confident we won’t just drift towards relegation without any intervention.

  • 186 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:26 PM

    Eh Young Magpie – never give up ,never surrender. You must have know supporting the Toon was never going to be easy. Wait till you’ve supported em as long as I have and never won nowt apart from the Championship.

  • 187 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:27 PM

    WLG @ 182
    I’d rather make a list of who’d I keep. Much easier.

    Got to dash now. Bait time.

  • 188 Pootle2118 // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:27 PM


    My suggestions wouldn’t be loan moves as they’re all free agents so it would be 6 month contracts. With the cash flow problems that Chunky has just discovered he’s having, I fear loan signings could be the BEST we can hope for (on the playing front). No new players is probably going to be the eventual outcome though, followed by the ‘couldn’t get them over the line’ speech come 2nd Feb. Mind you, on the plus side, he could decide that he needs to recoup some of his fortune and sell us (here’s hoping)

  • 189 lesh // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:29 PM


    (without this phone posting early)


    running across the field, needing to find a Specsavers! O.O

  • 190 BandB // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:29 PM

    Have you run out of bait Blackers?

  • 191 firebug666 // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:30 PM


    I really don’t think Ashley will sell us while in the premiership.

    He might if we go down, but I fear he will strip the club to the bare bones first, and sell off the shell to the highest bidder.

  • 192 Ibizatoon // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:30 PM

    The good old “de facto” arguement.

    I suppose I could say that the loss of advertising to SD is a de facto interest on the “interest free” loan?

    It technically isn’t, but is? Snore on Blackley.

    BandB…Ashley believes his actual targets are being met, hence his lack of action? Still works for me. Much better than the notion that he’s trying to find the right forumula, but is simply useless at hiring and firing and likes to give everyone a fair chance to get it right

    We really need to stop running with ideas that the man is stupid. Likes a gamble for sure, but stupid?

  • 193 Thump // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:32 PM

    @Blackley (184): I can’t help but feel that the powers that be suffer from a small club mentality. As Ed is so fond of quoting, reach for the stars and you’ll reach the ceiling etc. Charnley appears to be struggling to look beyond the floorboards.

  • 194 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:34 PM

    Munster – pensioned off that sounds a humane way of doing it.
    Blackley – please don’t get me wrong I am no Cashley supporter but he has a lot of Cash tied up in this Club which I don’t feel he is prepared to lose without a fight.When we were last in real crisis he saved us from being another Leeds Utd. They didn’t recover from relegation we did. He is aware of the big cash carrot bing dangled to Prem Clubs next season which he certainly wants a bite of. Let’s just wait & see what he does in this window & hope that it doesn’t all turn to stinking fish come 1st Feb

  • 195 Pootle2118 // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:34 PM


    You may be right but surely he’d get a bigger offer for us if we were still a PL club still in with a chance of surviving. Losing £1b of you’re own money in 1 month must be one hell of a kick in the stotts, no matter how much money you have!

  • 196 BandB // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:35 PM


    I think that’s right at the heart it. Pardew sometimes hinted at it. Colocinni said it!
    We are in perceived as being not out of place in the league between 14th and 17th.

  • 197 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:36 PM

    Agree wholeheartedly Pootle. I’m really dreading that annual get out announcement

  • 198 lesh // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:36 PM

    Amazing innit

    Amazing that fcuk off can be translated in so many ways?

    Don’t want to let the fans down;

    Stand by the club till the end of the season;

    Want to get back to London;

    Want an ECL club

    Got the bairns’s school to think of;

    Our lass’s mother’s not ower clivvor;

    I’m sure we’ll understand that our targets have couldn’t be got over the line.

    Oh yes, we’ll understand and I can even see Wonga wanting out early rather than be associated with NUFC.

  • 199 BandB // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:37 PM

    So we are not miles off target, and there’s no call for panic.
    Just “sensible adjustments where necessary.”

  • 200 Ibizatoon // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:39 PM

    Ashley got us promoted at the first time of asking! He must want us to do well.

    We all accept that he has a lot of money invested in NUFC, money that he wants to protect.

    Could his desire to get promoted not be to simply protect his investment, rather than a signal he wants great things for the club?

  • 201 firebug666 // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:40 PM


    The club has no effect on his billions, and provides his SD with free Advertising, and the lions share of all merchandise, He will wan’t us to stop up, there is no doubt about that, there are riches to be had.

    However he may have placed one bet to many, the so called board, and head coach have us firmly locked on the path to oblivion and seem hapless (yes I did mean Hapless not helpless) to do anything about it.

    Things may have gone two far for even the fat man himself to step in and steer the good ship Newcastle out of danger.

  • 202 Pootle2118 // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:43 PM


    I would never for one moment call Chunk stupid. No-one who becomes a multi billionaire by selling tat from his nationwide shops can be called stupid. He is however, completely clueless in ALL matters which relate to owning a football club. Mind you, in regard to the stupid label, anyone who hires a bloke with little or no retail experience, then promotes him to one of the top positions in his company (international exports division I think) just because he’s slipping his daughter a length….maybe stupid isn’t too far from the mark!

  • 203 John Tudor // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:43 PM

    even my sd cards are shit

  • 204 BandB // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:44 PM

    So.let’s recap.

    Ashley knows nothing about football or footballers.
    And he’s no judge of a director.
    And he has no idea how to run a football club.
    So if all he brings to the table is money, then let’s see him bring it.

  • 205 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:45 PM

    Pootle the problem is with attracting loan players is we a far flung North East unfashionable club several hundred miles from London. Yes we have the attractive trappings of the the nightclubs etc by the Quayside but these mega rich footballers are attracted by the brighter lights of London & if presently playing for a London Club it is difficult to tempt them away. Hence more likely to go to Spurs, Arsenal & even West Ham & Palace or even stay with QPR.That’s why I have my doubts about Remy, Austin, Carroll,Shelvey (a London boy) & Adeybeyor. It’s going to be really difficult

  • 206 Ibizatoon // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:46 PM

    Pootle…My issue is that, much like in your post, people seem willing to accept he’s not a stupid man, but yet he can’t see, or chooses not to act even though he sees, that the footballing side of things isn’t working. That’s stupidity, not lack of footballing knowledge.

    If we accept he’s not stupid, it doesn’t seem far fetched to believe that perhaps his lack of action is down to that he believes the board aren’t really falling short of his targets, targets which aren’t really football success related.

    All sounds awfully familiar to me, despite hsi interview in May to say that despite what had gone before, these were new days, with a new and improved mindset / plan.

  • 207 BandB // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:47 PM

    If Ashley is saying “Here, here! Here’s another £50 million?”
    And are Charnley and Carr saying “put your purse away Mike, we can solve this with just a few loans?”

  • 208 Ibizatoon // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:47 PM

    BandB…All the time looking away whilst he removes assets, which have value, from the club.

  • 209 BandB // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:49 PM

    Looking away Ibiza?
    I think Charners wears a few hats, doesn’t he?
    Is “facilitates” not the word you are seeking.

  • 210 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:50 PM

    Firebug mate have you bin drinking & got depressive. Stay positive mate after all the fellow with the banner “The End is Nigh” might just be wrong yer know

  • 211 Ibizatoon // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:51 PM

    BandB…I was talking of the fans, but in the case of Charners, then yes, that would be the word.

  • 212 firebug666 // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:53 PM

    West Lancs Geordie

    Yeah I had a few, but I’m actually quite jovial, I just put down what I think mate, and if we go down and the fat man decides to flog us off he will strip us to the bone first, If we stay up nothing will change for next season and we will be here again in 2017.

  • 213 BandB // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:53 PM

    And they almost always are WLG.
    The problem with the Jeremiah argument though, is that Jeremiah himself turned out to be completely right.

  • 214 Pootle2118 // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:54 PM

    I must admit, I’ve never been a fan of Ashley’s running of the club. I am grateful that he did steady the ship in the way of the finances. Yes, there is plenty of arguments about the advertising revenue and all that guff but when push comes to shove, from what I can tell, we are on a more sound financial footing than we were under Freddie and the Gang. I just wish he’d bring in someone to be Chairman who knows how to run a football club AS a football club and not a business. Even a blind man on a galloping horse can see that the current board don’t know their arse from their elbow. Me personally, I would love to see someone like Martin Edwards be brought in to do the day to day running of the club. Ashley could then just sit back and enjoy whatever while Edwards could bring in decent board members and start showing Chunky that being successful on the pitch will make far more money than buying cheap and selling high ever would or could.

  • 215 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:56 PM

    Firebug – don’t you be jumping from the sinking blazing ship just yet we still have half the season left & the remainder of the season starts Tuesday night against Man U .Swashbuckling Steve will have his tattered & depleted army fired up by then to set about Man U like we did against Liverpool. It ‘s just a shame we can’t get Sky to take their cameras there.

  • 216 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:59 PM

    But Firebug this Newcastle United we know what we signed up for & when has it been any different apart from two short spells under KK & our Robby Bobson. Will those days reign? I very much doubt sorry

  • 217 toonking // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:59 PM

    toon KK 70

    I’ve got my doubts as to weather or not newcastle will have such an easy time in the championship. The last time we were in the championship players still had some belief as to weather or not ashley would act more abitious on the return this time even the mitro, wini and perez will want to leave.

    Of those who’ll still be with us come championship, arrons, colback and armstrong are the players I have the greatest belief in helping get promotion but lack of XP even these won’t be able to provide the attitude and captaincy you got from nolan, carroll and barton

  • 218 BandB // Jan 9, 2016 at 9:59 PM

    We only get the new signings you know, not 10 bonus points thrown in.
    The relegation fight starts, not ends, with new signings.

  • 219 Ibizatoon // Jan 9, 2016 at 10:00 PM

    Where does the idea that because one doesn’t have faith, they have jumped the metaphorical ship?

    Is it not a case that they are still on the ship, it’s just that instead of staring at the view, they’re alerting the other passangers that the view is lopsided, and that perhaps the ship is going down? Aren’t your feet wet yet?

    No one is calling for lifeboats. Just instead of pretending the holes aren’t there, let’s attempt to fix them?

    No point being grateful to the the guy who purchased the boat – it’s sinking and needs repairing. Quite quickly imo.

  • 220 firebug666 // Jan 9, 2016 at 10:01 PM


    Do you really think Ashley would bring in somebody who he could not control, somebody who would contest with him over the running of the club?

    Never going to happen, Mike likes things to run his way, and will not tolerate independent thought from his lackeys.

    When the likes of Nolan and Barton stood up to him, and criticised the regime, that was it… out the door.

    Were not run by Yes Men for no reason mate. This is Ashley’s Newcastle!

    Sorry if I sound harsh, Still not over our latest defeat yet.

  • 221 jimiley // Jan 9, 2016 at 10:02 PM

    How many games do you need to lose before this toss pot of an owner sacks you??? The situation is beyond sarcasm. Joke club and it would be great if the owner lost out on the 130 million next season. He deserves it and so do the sheep at the ground.

  • 222 BandB // Jan 9, 2016 at 10:04 PM


    That wasn’t just some brief shining hour. It was a fair chunk of time. Enough to establish us as regular European contenders.
    And hadn’t we been in Europe the season Ashley bought the club, or the one before?

  • 223 firebug666 // Jan 9, 2016 at 10:06 PM

    West Lancs Geordie

    I could never give up on Newcastle, regardless of Ashley and his minions, the fat tw@ will probable out live me like, but I will be here through it all, been with this team for over 50 years, seen some good and some dismal times, but still we go on.

  • 224 Pootle2118 // Jan 9, 2016 at 10:06 PM

    WLG @205

    Totally agree with you on the old North v South issue, and totally agree with your conclusions about all the players you mentioned other than Carroll and Adebayor. I think Adebayor would go to any club atm, who would be willing to match, or better, the 100k p/w he’s still getting payed by Spurs. As far as the injury prone, one trick pony, lanky string of mouldy kok vomit….I’d rather pay Ashley every penny I have ever had or will have to NEVER sign him for us again.

  • 225 Ibizatoon // Jan 9, 2016 at 10:06 PM

    Jimiley…I don’t think losing games is the marker.

    It’d be interesting to see how Steve survives a public plea for players?

    Not surprising, and this isn’t a comment on the mans ability, but it’s interesting that Pardews comments on the team and our transfer policy is significantly different from his time here. It’s almost as if it was part of his job to gloss over the clubs problems and take a share of the flak when the plan didn’t work? I imagine that was removed from the job description when they started looking for his replacement.

  • 226 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 10:08 PM

    Perhaps one day we’ll having our own players fighting each other on the pitch like Lee Bowyer, Kieran Dyer, David Batty & Joey Barton always getting into bother but all these were Englishmen & were perhaps passionate about the game & this was just their way of expressing their frustration like we do on this blog. Don’t you think with all these foreigners at the Club & I’m including Cockney Cashley in that, that there is very little thought left for the Club & the badge it’s purely greed driven. Thauvin rushing to the tunnel today without acknowledging the fans was a prime example.

  • 227 jimiley // Jan 9, 2016 at 10:10 PM

    The burning issue for fans is: how do we get rid of Ashley? It is THE issue. It never gets any play from the author of the blog. WHY?????????????

  • 228 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 10:11 PM

    You & me both mate- old codgers stick together through thick & thin.. We get knocked down but we get up again there’s nothin going to keep us down.
    It’s the frustration that get’s me. Wife always knows when we’ve been beat.Like every week now

  • 229 BandB // Jan 9, 2016 at 10:12 PM

    Leicester would have to stay in and around contention for prizes for 10 years or so to match what we managed.

  • 230 jimiley // Jan 9, 2016 at 10:13 PM

    Thauvin may not be fit to wear the shirt but does he give a….? He looks good in a tux and thats all that matters to him.

  • 231 JamesToon // Jan 9, 2016 at 10:14 PM


  • 232 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 10:14 PM

    Pootle I’m a big believer in never go back. But if he came back & scored goals to keep us up you’d be happy enough. I’ve got the same opinion about Remy who turned us down twice about money but it din’t get him regular football like he was getting here

  • 233 firebug666 // Jan 9, 2016 at 10:15 PM

    West Lancs Geordie @226

    I agree, the clubs only passion is money.

    Tuesday we need a result, there are no ifs or buts that can be tolerated, and regardless of the opposition we must start winning, before we are to far behind.

    The team are not sh1t, and are playing reasonable football with some nice move in there for good measure, but we are seriously lacking in front of goal, and I do feel that the players lack trust in each other, and that’s why things are just short of clicking with this team.

    Tough ask against Manure, but with a little luck and a tough of aggression anything is possible.

  • 234 BandB // Jan 9, 2016 at 10:16 PM

    Blackley made the good point the other day that supporting Ashley doesn’t mean you against the club.
    Neither does not supporting Ashley entail giving up on the club. Quid Quo Pro

  • 235 jimiley // Jan 9, 2016 at 10:16 PM

    West Lancs
    And I bet Remy is really pissed off that he left????? Look where he could be now with his French mates.

  • 236 Pootle2118 // Jan 9, 2016 at 10:17 PM

    Firebug @220

    Yep, I know that someone like Edwards coming in is a complete pipe dream, and I completely understand that Fatman will only do what he (or maybe Carr) want to do. It just tags on to what most, if not all of us, have been saying for years. Surely he has to realise that being successful generates the most cash, I mean it’s what £65-70M ish for winning the PL this year. It’s about the same or more for the CL isn’t it? He cant be that naïve to not realise that surely ffs!

  • 237 firebug666 // Jan 9, 2016 at 10:17 PM

    touch even

  • 238 firebug666 // Jan 9, 2016 at 10:19 PM


    He want’s to win, he wants that TV money and worldwide retail exposure, but he is a greedy man and he wants it all on the cheap.

  • 239 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 10:20 PM

    OK James thanks for that. Price to Newcastle just gone up to £15M.That will enable Swansea to entire the race for a top class striker. After all they did beat us to Bony & Gomis so must be a bigger club

  • 240 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 10:23 PM

    Agree Firebug & Jimiley 100%

  • 241 firebug666 // Jan 9, 2016 at 10:23 PM

    West Lancs Geordie @ 239

    I hope your not going to get depressed now PMSL:

    You are correct like we just cannot compete with clubs like Swansea, West Ham, Exeter City, Hartlepool etc.

  • 242 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 10:26 PM

    Tuesday team needs to run for ever close down fast get in their faces all game Play one for all all for one & start putting chances away. A proper Liverpool like performance needed with loads of belief

  • 243 toonking // Jan 9, 2016 at 10:29 PM


    I used to say having foreigners in the team was what got us in this mess myself but I believe it lies more deeper than that. Michel owen was an english player himself but what he’d shown in his last few games at newcastle shows even english players can be greedy gits.

    The players who’ve got the greatest of passion now are those who play football for the enjoyment. Being local players it should be english players the maority of the time but you can get foreign ones as well such as mahrez who is currently doing magnificent at leceister.

    These players would themselves still love to have that chance to play for a big club but unlike your sissoko’s these players don’t have that expectation of getting into a top team therefore they’ll do all they can to help there own team make there way up there.

    No team currently proves how good passion can be to a team more than leceister city who this year have been manificent thanks to previous non league vardy and mahrez!

  • 244 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 10:31 PM

    No it’s OK Firebug. Can’t put my head in the gas oven – no mains gas here! Jeff’s Hartlepool are out although they were still in it up to 5 mins from time. Exeter will get leathered in the replay or do you believe in fairy tales.I was thinking of Swans, West Ham , Soton, Stoke who have beaten us to sign more than half decent players who we have been linked with fairly recently

  • 245 welshgeordie9 // Jan 9, 2016 at 10:31 PM

    How the hell can you compare swans and West Ham to the other two teams, and also they are not bigger they are just better.

  • 246 Pootle2118 // Jan 9, 2016 at 10:32 PM

    I’ve been banging on to the people down here for years that being a Toon fan isn’t like being a fan of any other club, it’s more primal. Going to a match is more like a tribal ritual instead of just going to watch a game. Non Toon fans just don’t seem to grasp it, they can’t understand why we show such loyalty and commitment to a team that is as unpredictable as ours. They just don’t get that it’s genetic, our blood isn’t just red, there is black and white in there too. My favourite analogy is to say that you could put 11 monkeys in a black and white shirt and you’d still get 50,000 screaming, passionate Geordies cheering them on. Unfortunately, in recent years there comeback to that has been, we know, we’ve seen your squad list!

  • 247 firebug666 // Jan 9, 2016 at 10:37 PM

    West Lancs Geordie / Welshie

    Exeter and Hartlepool was just a little light hearted humour, just chucked in there.


    I don’t think they are better than Newcastle, they just make more luck than we do.

    West Lancs Geordie

    Yeah I saw the results, Exeter get another chance but sadly I fear you are right and they will get a good thrashing.

    Anyway…who doesn’t believe in fairytale’s?

  • 248 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 10:37 PM

    Yeah Toonking couldn’t argue with that. My brother was a big Blackpool Fan but Oyston has destroyed that club 10 times worse than Cashley has here. He now supports AFC Fylde who could be playing Blackpool within 2 to 3 years. Loves it – a real family atmosphere and moving to a brand new ground near M55 next season. Grass roots football & that’s where Vardy learned his trade just up the road at Fleetwood. Would Love it if Foxes won the league. It would be a triumph for football over money

  • 249 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 10:43 PM

    Firebug -Yeah it was good to see the joy on Jeff’s face when Hartlepool went ahead against Derby if only for 6 mins
    Welsh – They all must be more astute in signing players because they got them over the line when we didn’t. We just get “We are sorry but we put in offers for a number of quality players but at the end of the day just didn’t quite manage to get them over the line” Wait for it – it’s coming 1st Feb

  • 250 welshgeordie9 // Jan 9, 2016 at 10:46 PM

    Luck, I don’t think so somehow, apart from this season, playing attractive football got them results

  • 251 reilly // Jan 9, 2016 at 10:46 PM

    this is 1 massive cluster fk that keeps on repeating its self over and over again.
    but this is what happens when you employ second rate managers.
    carr needs sacked ASAP for the shite he has brought in.
    can he really be trusted this window to get the players in we need to get us out this mess.

  • 252 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 10:47 PM

    I bet you’ve all gone now to watch Match of the Day. Could bear to watch em get beat yet again . Might watch the replay of it tomorrow morning

  • 253 jimiley // Jan 9, 2016 at 10:47 PM

    Its fans who would watch 11 zebras who have screwed the club. They have watched 11 mercenaries instead and their presence has kept Mr Tubbs in control. He would have vacated an empty ground years ago. You cannot advertise goods in an empty ground. I stopped going two years ago after 50 years and it is not easy but I am doing it for the greater good of the club. The sheep at the ground extend his tenure and my exile so I am less than pleased with those “loyal” fans.

  • 254 Pootle2118 // Jan 9, 2016 at 10:47 PM

    Well peeps, that’s me done for today. Hopefully tomorrow will bring some upbeat and believable rumours and maybe, just maybe, a transfer development later in the day! here’s hoping any way.

    tata for now folks

  • 255 welshgeordie9 // Jan 9, 2016 at 10:48 PM

    I wonder if mcclaren will still be in charge this time next weekend.

  • 256 firebug666 // Jan 9, 2016 at 10:50 PM


    Every team need a bit of luck, we are not a bad team, but we don’t have much luck hence our poor results.

    We played some attractive football, but we are still not getting the result.

    There is always skill, tactics etc to get the team going, and a game plan with a plan “B” (something we lack) but any team can beat any team with a little luck.

  • 257 jimiley // Jan 9, 2016 at 10:51 PM


    Yes. He would have to shoot Mr Tubbs to get the sack. Sacking costs money.

  • 258 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 10:51 PM

    Is it possible for Mike Ashley & his cronies to receive a copy of the blog each day so they can address the issues raised in the constructive criticism aimed at them.
    In that way remedial action could be taken in time so as to avoid relegation

  • 259 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 9, 2016 at 10:53 PM

    I made that point? Can’t remember that? And you say it was a good point. Can’t be me.

    Have yiu been moderated? I noticed you mentioni it recently. When I looked for your post in answer to Krul, I couldn’t see it. There was nothing there. I checked more than worse. I checked again today and it was there. Weird.

    I can’t believe that people have such a bad time with racism these days. Especially around these parts. Shocking. I can well see why we should never be complacent.

  • 260 jimiley // Jan 9, 2016 at 10:53 PM


    So we are second bottom coz we are unlucky?. Six goals in 20 away games got anything to do with it? Or a shit defence? Thought not. Those Gooners are lucky bastards.

  • 261 firebug666 // Jan 9, 2016 at 10:54 PM

    West Lancs Geordie

    They will most likely have the blogs, twitter facebook etc monitored so the can head off any discontent before the protests and riots start.

    They would be fools not to……Oh wait!

  • 262 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 10:55 PM

    Well Welsh if he sacks McLaren next week he will have an excuse not to sign any players until a new manager can be found and that may not be until the end of the season as nobody wants the flaming job.So sadly we must either walk or get behind this beleaguered regime.

  • 263 Pootle2118 // Jan 9, 2016 at 10:57 PM

    one last one before I go.

    Jimiley @253

    I understand your stance and I support it as well as admire you for your obvious will power. however, I can also see the point of view of ‘the sheep’. IMO it’s a knife that cuts both ways, the supporters keep turning up means Chunky will stay. But, if the fans (or sheep, whichever you prefer) empty the stadium, who are the players that would want to play in an empty stadium and where would the money come from to buy and pay said players. Like I say, I understand and admire your stance but also admire those who still turn up and endure the torture atm.

    And with that, I bid you all a good nite. Catch you all tomorrow you crazy kids!

  • 264 firebug666 // Jan 9, 2016 at 10:57 PM


    That’s not what I said.

    I said that Swansea West Ham etc are not better than we are, the just have more luck. That there are tactics, and game plans but every team still needs a bit of luck. We have had none, how many chances have gone begging for us this season, and we don’t create that many.

  • 265 BandB // Jan 9, 2016 at 10:59 PM


    Now you know full well Mr Blackley that we see several of the same problems, but avow different means of solving them.
    I thought I was for a few minutes, but my next post went straight up. I thought the entire blog had been moderated on Thursday night.
    That’s what happens.
    You call for balance, and get moderation instead 🙂

  • 266 jimiley // Jan 9, 2016 at 10:59 PM

    Creating few chances and missing the few created is not a matter of luck. Its called a lack of ability.

  • 267 jane // Jan 9, 2016 at 11:00 PM

    “The sheep at the ground extend his tenure and my exile so I am less than pleased with those “loyal” fans.”

    come back when the team is doing well!

  • 268 firebug666 // Jan 9, 2016 at 11:02 PM


    On another day with a bit of luck some of those chances could have gone in, and confidence with the fans and the team increased.

    And results could be different if we ever got awarded one of the penalties we are always denied.

    Luck plays a big part in football, sadly we don’t have any, that is unless it’s bad luck.

  • 269 OneAlanShearer // Jan 9, 2016 at 11:02 PM

    With carroll, Austin and Ben yedder you have almost an equal amount of risk of different types. I’d honestly gamble on 2 of them with both redmond and shelvey. It’s just a shame the deals can’t be more transparent to know if we are even in for them and how far along they are if at all. Redmond and shelvey alone would add forward passing from midfield and crossing quality..that alone will help improve our chances of staying up but the thing that makes me think austin is the right man is his finishing
    ..He’s a natural finisher.

  • 270 jimiley // Jan 9, 2016 at 11:03 PM

    And keep going and filling Mr Ashleys pockets so he stays.

  • 271 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 11:04 PM

    Jimiley. I’ve got to support Firebug here we are decimated by injuries. Why I don’t know but it’s not a new thing but if I were manager I’d be finding out because it’s nothing new. WE haven’t been playing bad. Just unable to put away chances created.Need at least one free scoring CF. I think away at Arsenal at start of season I’d have taken 1- 0defeat. The defence is on it’s bare bones i.e the only to worthwhile CBs are having to play each week others injured . We have only two recognised full backs , the other is long term injured and the other is a youth player forced into the fray today in midfield. We need recruits and fast & need to offload the dross End of

  • 272 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 11:07 PM

    So far as penalties are concerned our last one was Christmas 2014 against guess who. Yeah Man U – Cisse. People say luck is swings & roundabouts but for some reason we are never given penalties

  • 273 jimiley // Jan 9, 2016 at 11:07 PM

    We need to draw a line on this matter. You give the impression that luck plays a big part in results. I think skill is the overriding factor. The good teams are at the top and the bad ones at the bottom.

  • 274 Toon-Prodigy // Jan 9, 2016 at 11:09 PM

    Another defeat bahh, when will things start to really look up and the results change?

    I see Shelvey’s wage demands have apparantly put off NUFC, what a surprise.

    The wages part of our transfer policy is the major stumbling block and why we are where we are in the league and have flirted with relegation so often. I see again criticsm directed at Carr and the manager but the main problems sit with Ashley’s transfer policy and the wages he will give out to players.

    It is blatantly obvious McClaren is getting what he is given and also blatantly obvious Carr has to bring in players on a certain wage. Ashley refuses to pay the going rate in wages for experienced Premier League footballers. This is why Carr has been told to recruit from France, Belguim and Holland where players are on alot lower wage. Where we are has been coming for along time, well, since Ashley deployed these policies.

    Very few will hit the ground running, they need time to adapt, they are not superstars.

    We need experienced players of this league and older heads to mix with the young foreign imports but Ashley refuses to budge past a certain age and a wage which these players command.

    It’s not working but this is the main problem and why we are so poor. It is not just one individual or two who are to blame, if the policies were changed they would all do alot better.

    Until the policies are changed though we will always struggle in this league.

  • 275 jane // Jan 9, 2016 at 11:10 PM

    most people are more interested in watching football than caring about the owner. it is what it is. support the team.

  • 276 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 11:10 PM

    Driver of Mini bus required to drop off in Nantes,Bordeaux , Marseilles Monaco & Paris or anywhere else for that matter in France the following:
    Marvaux, Riviere, Obertan, & Gouffran
    All to be given one way tickets paid for by the Club

  • 277 BandB // Jan 9, 2016 at 11:12 PM

    Good post TP
    Good night everyone else.

  • 278 Ibizatoon // Jan 9, 2016 at 11:13 PM

    I’m not sure how we can make the argument of being decimated by injuries, when it’s pretty much the same players who are injured as always.

    It’s to be expected when we don’t replace the deadwood, who are usually the same ones injured for large parts of the season.

    CB saviour Steven Taylor?

    Still – A lot of them have little time on their contracts. We’ll muddle through for now, rather than take proactive action.

    Jane…It may be better to speak for yourself, rather than “most people”, unless of course you’ve conducted that research?

    “It is what it is” – As if nothing else can be done. Such an inspiring thought. It’s no wonder “most people” share the view.

  • 279 firebug666 // Jan 9, 2016 at 11:14 PM


    You see that’s where we agree the good teams are at the top and the bad ones at the bottom.

    I have never denied that skill, tactics etc play there part, but even our (poor team) if you like have beaten some of those top teams…with a bit of luck we will do it again on Tuesday.

    My original point was I don’t think the likes of Swansea and West Ham are better than us just because they are higher up the table, we have a good squad, that need it’s confidence rebuilt, and with a bit of luck results may go our way and we climb up the table.

    I was not saying the whole game is a case of luck, I think you either misunderstood my original comment or I failed to word it properly.

  • 280 jimiley // Jan 9, 2016 at 11:14 PM

    Toon Prodigy,

    Good points.
    The club is set up merely to survive in the league with second rate imports (we get a few good ones who are sold on) and manager. Cost is the overriding factor. Fans who attend matches are aware of this so should not be too disappointed that we have a poor team. But if you swirl around the plug hole long enough, you down it eventually. It could be our year and nobody can say it would be undeserved.

  • 281 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 11:16 PM

    No Jane disagree EVERYBODY on this blog is a passionate Toon supporter . Just sick to death & frustrated that a Club that can attract 52000 every other week with thousands more sat round a TV or radio can’t get a Premiership team that can more than hold it’s own when teams this season like Leicester & Watford (newly promoted) with far less resources than ourselves can. A few seasons ago Leicester were on the verge of bankruptcy!

  • 282 jane // Jan 9, 2016 at 11:17 PM

    Ibiza I was speaking about the 50000 sheep jimiley is criticising for going.

  • 283 Ibizatoon // Jan 9, 2016 at 11:17 PM

    On the issue of luck, of course it plays a part, however, as Ashley hinted to in the past, you make your own luck.

    We appear to just hope for it, rather than earn it.

  • 284 Ibizatoon // Jan 9, 2016 at 11:20 PM

    Jane…I see. Much easier to conduct that survey. What was the percentage split?

    Out of interest, is there an approximate number of toon fans world wide, not just match attending fans?

  • 285 firebug666 // Jan 9, 2016 at 11:21 PM

    Ibiza @283

    That’s sort of what I was trying to say but I think the beer has fuddled the little grey cells a bit.

  • 286 Ibizatoon // Jan 9, 2016 at 11:22 PM

    firebug…I imagine so. Would be strange to see you arguing our plight was just a case of bad luck 🙂

  • 287 jane // Jan 9, 2016 at 11:23 PM

    soz I was just angry at jimiley for such a crass statement. it’s like arrogant that fans that don’t go are better than fans that do. nothing to do with worldwide fans.

  • 288 firebug666 // Jan 9, 2016 at 11:23 PM

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    Toon’s opening offer was rejected by the Ligue 1 club, and Southampton are still keen on Saivet, 25, who plays wide or in central midfield.

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  • 289 firebug666 // Jan 9, 2016 at 11:27 PM


    Mostly it’s from our poor management, poor tactics, lacklustre performances, and all round greed not to spend on quality in the areas that need it most.

    But hey this is Newcastle why should we expect more?

  • 290 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 11:28 PM

    Why am I not surprised Shelvey can’t agree wages. He’s now waiting for a better offer. Pards will snap him up. It’s same with Remy we’ve gone to speak to him first. Now he knows the bottom figure he can work from.
    Ibiza I think you have talked a lot of sense tonight but dismissing injuries as not being an issue is ridiculous. WE have Krul out all season, Haidara long term, Anita fairly long term, Cisse (our main striker) needing an operation Aarons (probably our brightest prospect injured most of the season.De Jong who has had a lung problem, Then you come to the wastrels sick note Saylor played 20 games in 4 seasons, Willo the Weak not good enough,Obertan (Nantes interested ) but injured. We can only register 25 Max plus youth so must offload before we recruit but who is going to take the dross?

  • 291 Ibizatoon // Jan 9, 2016 at 11:29 PM

    Jane…I understand your anger. It’s not nice being told that you’re the problem for doing what you think is right. I imagine Jimiley feels angry that there are people who say nothing can be done and he’s a bad fan, as real fans take whatever – as owner stuff doesn’t really matter.

    My worldwide fans question was a seperate issue.

  • 292 toonking // Jan 9, 2016 at 11:29 PM

    I’d go with fire bug myself, i’m not at all saying that skill itself doesn’t play a part in why chances aren’t scored but luck itself can’t in anyway not be ruled out itself.

    When your going on a bad run team confidence will be very low, the pressure to get that goal scored is much higher than a player would like and each and ever time he gets another miss he’ll feel less confident about scoring.

    The problem lies in having a team who’s attitude and leadership terrible, what’s happening is nobody is attempting to try and keep the players relaxed instead they’re just playing for themselves so with all this selfishness going on each and every miss will continue to put more pressure on a player to score his goal whilst those arouund him just stand around thinking of themselves.

  • 293 Blofal // Jan 9, 2016 at 11:30 PM

    I am disgusted of the treatment Thauvin got during that game. Absolutely disgusted. This farce that people pay their money and have the right to boo their own players is the justification of a troglodyte.

    Thauvin now will want to do nothing but leave this club. He is a kid and he thinks the supporters hate him. That’s him done. He now feels like no matter what he does the fans are going to be ready to jump on him and he would be right to think that.

    The lack of ability of our fans to put themselves in a player’s shoes is half the problem. Sure have a go at players for being lazy by all means but if you think booing and attacking your own players is going to make them play better then you’re an idiot. An absolute idiot. It will do nothing but the opposite. And putting that extra pressure on our own players is a big reason why they fail. Don’t give me that crap about how much they get paid… they are kids.

    Blame the regime, blame the club, blame the management. But the players are the only ones that can get us out of this mess and quite frankly we deserve to go down if our own fans insist on sabotaging any morale our players have left with that disgusting display of supposed “support”.

  • 294 Ibizatoon // Jan 9, 2016 at 11:33 PM

    West Lancs…I’m not dismissing injuries outright, I just think a fair whack of it should have been expected.

    All teams, or I should say, most teams, suffer injuries to key players over a season. Our issue is that our back ups are firstly not good enough, but usually they’re in the treatment room themselves for large parts of the season.

    Taylor, Squiddy, Marv, Haidara seems to be going that way too. That’s four players who haven’t been fit for probably half a season each season. That’s not bad luck imo as it could be seen coming. It’s bad preperation and hoping for good luck.

  • 295 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 11:33 PM

    Firebug we\ll have to up our offer but is he any good or just another mediocre Frenchman? Soton will probably get him they beat us to Alderwield when he first went there on loan & the CB Van Dyk- bigger club syndrome!
    Why are we not concentrating on a striker & two defenders. Defence is shafted if more injuries & suspensions?

  • 296 toonking // Jan 9, 2016 at 11:35 PM

    been a nice chat and I guess waiting until late on was the best thing that way i could talk relaxing

    nite all

  • 297 naptoon // Jan 9, 2016 at 11:38 PM

    Ages since posted on here don’t agree with blaming thauvin by fans if true every time I see him he seems to give his all maybe not good enough but to turn on him when he’s hardly played and we’ve been equally crap when he hasn’t?? Confident we won’t go down still despite results cos some of our footy is canny just can’t stick the ball in onion bag. Years of under investment and playing down expectations in media by ash is to blame for our predicament and Carr whose remit is obviously buy players with a view to potential profit rather than strengthen team.

  • 298 Jib // Jan 9, 2016 at 11:39 PM

    Thank god we are out of the FA cup !

    The next round is 30th January.

    We have Watford away on the 23rd and Everton away Wed 3rd of Feb . They are both still in the cup.

    The round after that is 20th Feb
    Either side of that we have Chelsea at Home 13th Feb and Man City away 28th Feb both on Sky tv.

  • 299 firebug666 // Jan 9, 2016 at 11:40 PM

    West Lancs Geordie

    As I said mate we are not dealing with the issues that are problematic, we need a striker and a playmaker who have the quality to help us get out of this match, but…

    The board in their infinite wisdom are pratting about trying to get a CM who can play out wide (but is not a natural winger) in with derisory bids.

    This seems to be the policy, don’t buy what we need just get what we can afford…Actually that’s not right. Just get what’s cheap and available.

  • 300 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 11:40 PM

    Ibiza So the only way to rectify the problem is not to include them in the 25 for the rest of the season. We must do this with Krul in order to bring in emergency cover. No point registering the others if they are not going to be fit.That then frees up numbers for recruitment -yes
    When you look at our present 10/11 injuries us & Liverpool are top of the league by a mile but West Brom Norwich & Swansea have 2 or 3 – just does not add up

  • 301 beermonkey // Jan 9, 2016 at 11:42 PM

    I think most will agree we are a poorly run club that lacks investment yet wages wise we cant be that bad we have one of the smallest squads and yet are wages are 6th 7th highest in the league
    its all down to these long contracts we dish out it really hampers us
    sissoko got a 6.5 year deal when he signed on according to sportspayroll 57k a week (not sure he on that) but what if he had been another marveax

    can we not dish out 3 year deals with clauses that if players do well we can trigger and player get a rise

    I bet more than a 3rd of our wage budget is wasted on failed players on useless players on long deals

    just seen us motd great stat we have not won a fa cup game since 2012 pathetic

  • 302 firebug666 // Jan 9, 2016 at 11:42 PM

    Match? Should have been mess. lol

  • 303 SPRINGY // Jan 9, 2016 at 11:43 PM

    agree with your comments about thauvin,the lad has came into a very poor team,low on confidence and not a smooth running club… targeting any one player is harsh…if thats what happened

  • 304 firebug666 // Jan 9, 2016 at 11:46 PM

    Was the “your not fit to wear the shirt” directed just a Thauvin, or the whole team?

  • 305 jane // Jan 9, 2016 at 11:47 PM

    and breath

    jimiley said he had been going 50 years so no wonder he feels like he does 🙂 things were probably rubbish then!

  • 306 SPRINGY // Jan 9, 2016 at 11:49 PM

    the radio said it was but they were moaning about thauvin the second he was on the pitch… could of just been what they thought….only to know is if someone was at the match tbh

  • 307 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 11:49 PM

    Firebug – spot on but this guy might be a good un who can be sold next season for double the money paid. The Sports Direct mentality working again. Presumably a Carr find?
    Thauvin issue sorry folks the well paid kid needs to hold his hand up and apologise to the long suffering fans who travelled a long way & who paid hard earned money to cheer on the Toon. He was Probably at bit naive but I’ve watched more away matches than home due to the fact of where I live & you really appreciate the players coming over at the end to acknowledge your support. The lad now needs to buckle down & show us exactly what we paid £11M for starting Tuesday if selected. That ‘s the only way to silence your critics

  • 308 Blofal // Jan 9, 2016 at 11:51 PM

    Thank Springy,

    We have a supporter base that can make players perform above and beyond when they get behind the team… but they also can do exactly the opposite when they are mired in negativity. Most of them don’t appear to understand that it would appear.

  • 309 firebug666 // Jan 9, 2016 at 11:55 PM


    If it was directed at one player that is shocking I have to say, but I agree with West Lancs Geordie, the way to answer your critics is to show what you can do.

    The few cameos I have seen from Thauvin he has looked ok and up for the challenge, he needs some actual game time if he is ever to get to grips with the PL.

    But the whole team (even though the performance wasn’t bad) got booed at the end, Like you I only had commentary from the radio and have not seen MOTD so really have to go with what the fans who were there have to say.

    Rule of thumb, Never trust a commentator!

  • 310 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 9, 2016 at 11:57 PM

    No Jane 50 years ago the Club was in a much better state than this in every aspect but what he is probably trying to get over is: It has been a topsy turvy road since. We had exciting times with Kevin Keegan (both playing & managing) and under the great never to be forgotten Bobby Robson but we have had some mediocre times with Hullet, Souness and the likes then changing managers like you change yer shirt pre Pardew. The rest is history

  • 311 Jib // Jan 9, 2016 at 11:59 PM

    Thauvin only and he was quite badly fouled at the time and not feigning injury.The Watford commentators were quite shocked and a bit disdainful of the Toon fans.

    It’s quite clear that those that go away to cupties are a different set to the normal away fans.

    Carvers big fight with away fans was the FA cup at Leicester.

    It is not unique to NUFC .
    Villas away fans today gave poor Remy Garde a torrid time as well.

    PL away game’s fans tend in the main to be knowledgeable and more tolerant .

    Cup fans are not such regular attendees and tend to be opportunists with a different agenda.
    Most die hard PL away fans cannot be arsed with cup games.

    I hope McClaren realises this.

  • 312 SPRINGY // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:00 AM

    ya right only way to shut them up is up ya game….theres alot expected of perez,mitro and thauvin…whoare young lads in apoor team….hope they man up and show the they are all capable of…if they do its a step away from relegation

  • 313 firebug666 // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:03 AM


    Well I hope Thauvin realises that too, I still think with some game time he has a chance to showcase his talents for us.

    I read the story on Remy Garde like, poor sod he’s only been there five minutes what do they expect?

  • 314 jane // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:03 AM

    appreciate that but in the lean times you should keep supporting your team but if you give up don’t knock the ones that don’t. I’m sure there have been times in the last 50 years as bad or worse than now.

  • 315 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:07 AM

    Blofal Thauvin is a big boy now, playing in a Big Man’s League. These supporters are working class people mainly shelling out a lot of their hard earned cash to travel & cheer on the team they always have & always will support. The Club paid £11M for this player who came with a reputation of tremendous potential. The average person there we be lucky to earn a 10th of that in a lifetime let alone him drawing a week £10000 more than what an average fan earns in a year.
    Yes they have the right to criticise if the team is not delivering because there are 11/12/13 other players in the same position & playing to their true potential. That is where fan frustration comes in.

  • 316 firebug666 // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:09 AM


    It’s difficult for them especially the new lads, but if or when it click for this team we may yet be in for some delightful game with positive results.

    Some players adapt quickly some take longer, half season or even a season, These lads haven’t really been given the chance to shine because the rest of the team is still suffering last seasons hangover, (think I might have one of them in the morning) but with a couple of January additions (of quality) I think we could comfortably climb away from the relegation zone.

    Will we get them?

  • 317 SPRINGY // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:10 AM

    need them in quick!

  • 318 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:14 AM

    Yeah Jane when we went down last time but then we had battlers, Barton Nolan, Raylor & CO who had the fight in them to come straight back up. This seems a more serious situation with no characters like that today.
    Firebug we were after Remi Garde but he turned us down – out of the frying pan into the fire? Villa are bottom because they sold their best players Delph & Benteke & never replaced them. Familiar story?

  • 319 firebug666 // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:14 AM

    Right time to sleep this load off, and hopefully avoid the headache in the morning.

    For a change it has been a good night on the blog, with some good debates.

    Goodnight all

  • 320 Belfast // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:15 AM

    Very harsh on the lad imo. There’s much worse offenders than him. Certain players have given up on many occasions and not got that abuse.

  • 321 firebug666 // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:16 AM

    West Lancs Geordie

    Just before I go, yeah mate he was offered a contract till the end of the season and said no.

    Have a great night mate.

  • 322 SPRINGY // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:17 AM

    enjoy the hangover firebug!lol

  • 323 Belfast // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:21 AM

    Aye the Villa fans where giving Garde and the players dogs abuse at full-time. Fair play to Richards for having the bottle to go and speak with them.

  • 324 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:21 AM

    Firebug, Springy & I . I think we are all singing out of the same hymn book. The only problem is, will we get the right recruits and will they hit the ground running and blend with those with potential that we already have. That’s the multi million dollar question.
    We certainly hope so & certainly hope that MA will grasp just how serious a predicament we are currently in. No good looking a month ahead and seeing what fixtures are coming up as everyone is beating everyone else this season – only some more than others.

  • 325 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:22 AM

    Goodnight all . Tomorrows another day

  • 326 Belfast // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:23 AM

    Did anybody see the Eastleigh fan that that ran on to the pitch in the middle of an attacking move ? 🙂

  • 327 Belfast // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:27 AM

  • 328 SPRINGY // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:28 AM

    we as fans are getting put thru the ringer every game……we can only hope ashley has a scrooge like event and wakes up to shite we are in ….it needs sortin now!….get st james atmosphere up for man utd and west ham by buying a couple of solid players and that could kick off a good run of results and climb away from trouble.

  • 329 SPRINGY // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:29 AM

    would of been funny if he scored!lol

  • 330 Belfast // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:32 AM

    Haha I nearly pissed myself when that came on the tv. Think he’d a t-shirt on saying dreams come true or something.

  • 331 Blofal // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:36 AM

    West Lancs,

    Don’t give me this he is a big boy and gets paid a lot of money. That doesn’t make him super human. He is 22. He is a kid.

    What is the point of having the right to boo players when it will likely only apply more pressure, cause a disconnect between them and the fans and make them play worse??

    Its a stupid and ignorant thing to do. Entirely counterproductive and is defiantly not what I would call “support”.

    Fans need to learn to separate their frustrations with that of the regime from the players.

  • 332 SPRINGY // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:38 AM

    theres a few mentioned players like debuchy,enrique,ronaldinho,addabayor as quick fixes till the end of the season……but cant see any of these being of any use….enrique maybe but he’s rarely played for liverpool so ive no idea of his fitness

  • 333 Graeme // Jan 10, 2016 at 1:10 AM

    Why can’t fans simply accept that NUFC, as we knew it and loved it, ceased to exist 8 years ago?

    We are no longer a football team, we have zero ambition, we have no interest in cups as they are likely to cause relegation. As clearly identified by extensive research, commissioned by NUFC!!!!

    We exist purely to provide World Wide Advertising for our Illustrious Owners main business interest – SD.

    Our only objective is to compete at a high enough level to remain in the Premier League, thus affording said Illustrious Owner, access to untold sums, purely for being there.

    Where is this situation likely to take us – absolutely nowhere, Are the fans happy? Not at all.

    Is the owner happy? Hell yeah, he’s laughing all the way to the bank. Does he care about Fans? Cups? Being competitive? Absolutely not.

  • 334 lesh // Jan 10, 2016 at 1:48 AM


    I’ve been chewing on the fans booing the players and whether he played poorly or otherwise, directing chants at Thauvin didn’t do anyone any good.

    But the frustrations are understood but need, somehow, to get through to Ashley. He is the problem.

    On the evidence of the day as I’ve seen in the highlights, the lads played well but the lack of experience up front let us down. Oh, and an element of bad luck. Please lay of them for they are no more than pawns in Ashley’s game. As, I believe, McClaren.

    For the sake of avoiding the total destruction of Newcastle United, keep on supporting the lads on the pitch. That’s not supporting Ashley it’s merely keeping things tick over until someone relieves of the misery that Ashley has rained on Newcastle United.

    If there is a god…… Please help.

  • 335 terencelim // Jan 10, 2016 at 2:29 AM

    Result like this makes ashley ass lickers look even more stupid. And we all know who they are in this blog.

  • 336 loonie-toon // Jan 10, 2016 at 3:05 AM

    Anyone fink boney on loan b good from city

  • 337 Thump // Jan 10, 2016 at 3:18 AM

    @lesh: I agree. While the result was poor, I can’t blame the players on the pitch. It seems to me like our build up play has gone neglected. We can control the game all we like, but without that final ball being delivered, what’s the point? (See: Leciester)

    @loonie-toon: Mate, at this stage I think Ameobi would be good for us. Bony is a pipe dream, hah.

  • 338 ilovetoon8788 // Jan 10, 2016 at 3:27 AM

    we are going to get relegated. and we deserve what’s coming.

    lets look forward to visiting Leeds and Bolton next year.

  • 339 Magpie Season // Jan 10, 2016 at 4:44 AM

    Well guys, thank god I didn’t bet that $1,000 stake on us not to get relegated. I guess I was thinking with my heart rather than my head.

    Watford played their under strength team. We went all out. If this were a EPL game SM would have played this exact team no doubt & Watford would have started with Anya, Abdi & Ighalo.

    Swansea under their caretaker manager have had a couple of good results. Now he is their permanent manager. I expect their results to pick up as well.

    Things are not looking good. The only think to look forward to as someone mentioned is that we will have the tyne-wear derby in the championship next season.

  • 340 Magpie Season // Jan 10, 2016 at 4:46 AM


    Which Ameobi mate?

  • 341 Magpie Season // Jan 10, 2016 at 4:51 AM


    I have to agree as well. I watched the entirety of the Wycombe vs Villa game & despite Villa taking the lead they played awful & they looked like a league 2 side after conceding. Not once though did I hear screaming or complaints from their travelling supporters.

    I guess the only difference between us & Villa supporters is they know they are a certainty to go down.

    It was a funny game to watch mate. Every time Villa players misplaced a pass or could not control a ball that went out of touch, the Wycombe fans all shouted “That’s why you’re going down! That’s why you’re going down! That’s why you’re going down!”

  • 342 Jail for Ashley // Jan 10, 2016 at 4:54 AM

    Yes Jib, thank god we’re out of that pesky cup, the other one too. The last thing we needed was a moral boosting win before crucial PL games, why don’t we ask the FA for special dispensation to be omitted completely from the competition on the grounds that it makes no financial sense to take part in it.

  • 343 Jail for Ashley // Jan 10, 2016 at 4:58 AM

    At least Mashers can’t be accused of throwing the towel in January this time round, we’ll have to turn up to every game till May now !

  • 344 Jail for Ashley // Jan 10, 2016 at 5:01 AM

    Are people thinking that Mclaren needs time to build his own team, it’s not part of the deal, he’s not allowed to build one, his last job in football and he’ll have the excuse that his hands were tied.

  • 345 headtheball // Jan 10, 2016 at 5:03 AM

    Has anyone looked at the league table and noticed how many of the teams we can’t compete against are above us:

    West Ham
    Crystal Palace
    Stoke City
    West Brom
    Forget the Chelsea’s, Man U, Man C, Arsenal, Spurs & Evertons of this world.
    It’s enough to make a grown man WEEP.
    Was it Bill who said ” A point a point my kingdom for a point.”

  • 346 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 10, 2016 at 5:40 AM

    Just watched the highlights, we should have taken one of the chances, Perez probably most guilty today. We need a quick and mobile centre forward to replace Perez, the kid isn’t a striker. He wasn’t a striker when we signed him, and he isn’t now. He should be used as an attacking mid or out wide in an attacking role.

    Another game without a goal for Mitrovic is also a worry, but based on the highlights he didn’t have any real chances other than when Sissoko slid it just too far ahead of him. He was however a key part in the build up to half or more of our chances. A pacy finisher alongside him and goals will come, either in a three with Perez or as a pair.

    The goal was poor from Gini, but other than that they didn’t cause too many issues.

    Was Colo injured?

  • 347 The_Toon // Jan 10, 2016 at 6:15 AM

    An army of tuna led by a shark will defeat an army of sharks led by a tuna

    McClaren is no shark!

  • 348 Reyantoon // Jan 10, 2016 at 6:28 AM

    Haven’t bothered with the cup loss.It’s always has been the league for me this season,which matters a lot.Considering our dire position in the league, why the hell did he risked key players??
    Tiote now certainly will miss the next game if I remember correctly.What the hell is he thinking?
    The man lost his head.He is a defeatist,a coward
    If they won’t back him with 4 or more new players,never mind 3,there isn’t much hope left for us.If there is no activities in the next few days on transfers,it’s all over!

  • 349 The overrated Frenchman // Jan 10, 2016 at 6:32 AM

    What right do McLaren, the players, and the other buffoons at the club contributing to this mess have to “feel angry”??? Who has taken us to where we are – the fans, the media, the footballing Gods? No mate, it’s you lot. You’ve no place to feel angry, it’s ashamed and apologetic you should be. It was a “bit harsh” when the fans booed. Two cups exits at the first hurdle and relegation more than likely. Polite applause is what you expect is it, McLaren? You are as big of a waste of space as any of the tossers who have come before you. And take that smirk off your face before I wipe it off…

  • 350 ashleysmate // Jan 10, 2016 at 7:20 AM

    I honestly think we should give the head coach more time….the rest of the season at least. Whether we stay up or…not..the state of the club at present I don’t think is all his fault
    If we keep chopping and changing coaches I feel we will become a bigger laughing stock than we already are.
    I have supported this beautiful club since I was 12.. and I’m now approaching a very young 61..ha. So people.. Until we have an owner who loves the club and treats it like the 8th wonder of the world. which it is,,,,we will just have to get on with It
    It’s just my opinion folks and what would I know
    Never forget my beauties… This is OUR club and Mr Ashley is just keeping things ticking over until a lover takes over…Until then my dear friends let’s hold our breath and see what happens
    Thank you for taking in my opinion. but as say after all these years. what would I know.
    God bless the Geordie nation. and let’s get on with it xx

  • 351 Blofal // Jan 10, 2016 at 7:36 AM

    Magpie i view our club as a sinking boat of which the hull is the players. And all the supporters are frustrated that Ashley, Charnley and Carr has steered the boat into an iceberg. And in their frustration they chant negatively and boo and punch holes in the hull which does nothing but make the boat sink quicker.

  • 352 Graymee... // Jan 10, 2016 at 8:38 AM

    Yes we have lost the last for games, but only by one goal. A proven striker is all we need. Look at the highlights off be last for games. With a good striker we would have had 7 points and still in the cup. Perez is a winger or attacking midfield player, at a push he is a cover forward. The manager needs time and a striker. That would be a start. (Only for now).

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