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Chickens Now Coming Home To Roost At Newcastle

8:25 am, Sunday, January 10th, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 249 Comments

Newcastle need to be a lot more ambitious than they have been over the last couple of years and it looks like the chickens are now coming home to roost so to speak – for the poor decisions that have been made from the top.

The other way of putting that is that you have to face the consequences of your mistakes and/or poor decisions of the past.

lee charnley and mike ashley

It´s simply poor leadership with no accountability from the top

That´s really what´s happening at Newcastle right now and the situation is manifesting itself on the field with the team being 3rd bottom of the league and we have lost 13 games of the 23 games played in all competitions this season.

And that included yesterday´s 1-0 loss at Watford in the FA Cup third round and that´s the 6th time in nine attempts that we have gone out of the FA Cup at the first attempt since Mike Ashley bought the club in the summer of 2007.

It was even more significant this season because one of Newcastle´s stated goals is to win a cup this season – the other being to finish in the top eight in the Premier League.

An inability to consistently strengthen the squad based presumably on wanting to save money in  transfer windows is one problem Newcastle have had.

Another is the club have made some poor transfer deals over the last few years and often just will not spend the necessary money to get hood p;layers in.

That didn´t  happen last summer, but the past has caught up with us and the £52M spent last summer may have come too late.

And two poor and uninspired choices of head coach made by Managing Director Lee Charnley are why Newcastle are struggling mightily against relegation this season.

The other way of looking at the above issues is to say there is just not enough ambition or drive from those at the top to make Newcastle great again.

Aiming for top ten over the last few seasons has resulted in us fighting against relegation.

And there´s certainly no accountability at the club – because with the mistakes made heads would have rolled by now in any normal business.

In any organization poor leadership from the top always ends up in failure and Newcastle have not been effectively and successfully led from the top for a number of years now.

That´s why we are where we are at the moment and fans have to hope some changes will be made in the way the club is run – starting in this all important January transfer window.

If not then the strong likelihood has to be that we will be relegated again for the second time in seven years come May.

We really hope that doesn´t happen – it would be another almighty tragedy for the club and for some of the most loyal and committed fans in the business – if that does happen.

But it remains very possible.

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249 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Belfast // Jan 10, 2016 at 8:34 AM

    I completely agree regarding the Thauvin stick. Much worse offenders than him in the squad.

  • 2 Ron Knee // Jan 10, 2016 at 8:38 AM

    Morning jesper


    I’ve got a horrible feeling there will be more performances like yesterday’s – team played well but failed to convert chances.

    Last season we were very lucky to avoid relegation, but this season I fear we will go down, despite playing better. Wheel of fortune.

  • 3 Shot Bru // Jan 10, 2016 at 8:40 AM

    Geordieboy from the last thread.

    The away fans having a go at one of our own players is an indication that the club has major problems.

    Any successful club stick together and support each other no matter what, and that includes the fans.

    If the away fans are restless, it is indicative of the mess we are in.

  • 4 OneAlanShearer // Jan 10, 2016 at 8:44 AM

    4 to 6 players keep us up. Invest in top end players.

    Keeping us up and investing in top quality will show ambition.

    Right now Ashley PR guy should be telling him turning his businesses around is going to be about showing actions that address the poor efforts/policies he’s made. Talk won’t do it only actions and big ones at that. A leaf has to be turned of all his businesses will suffer.

  • 5 SUTTY1978 // Jan 10, 2016 at 8:45 AM

    The thing with Thauvin is that a blind man could see that he wasn’t suited and wasn’t good enough to play in the Premier League, the fact that he was sooo much monry was the real kicker. Ok take a punt on the lad if he was free or a couple of million but that £13m could have been spent to strengthen areas of the team that really needed it rather than fuel Carr’s obsession with French fancies.

    If that £13m had been spent on a CB or a decent CM we would have more points on the board than we do at the moment.

  • 6 sparky55 // Jan 10, 2016 at 8:45 AM

    You can tell just by looking at Charnley he’s way out of his depth and hasn’t got the necessary tools in his locker to become anywhere near as astute as is required to carry out the duties of his role to any degree of competence.

    Ashley will say no-one gets paid more than ‘x’ and we’ll not pay more than ‘y’ in transfer fees but can you just imagine the agents of any player getting interest from Newcastle United…a club in the bottom three who are openly desperate for new blood and a club that are also desperate to avoid the drop so to enjoy the fruits of the new Sky Deal

    The agent just thinks of a number and doubles it because all the agents will know every club in the bottom half of the league will pay over the odds this year just to make sure they avoid the drop so are then part of the new sky deal.

    Its a gold rush for agents of average players, especially those with premiership experience and those of foreign players with a low number of international caps wanting a move to the premiership to milk the cash cow while they can.

    In other words Charley hasn’t got a cat in hells chance of bringing anyone decent in within fat lads budget guidelines and he certainly
    wont have the balls to go back to him and ask for more.

    Each Agent will so ‘no’ at least 5 times to approaches from Charmless at which point Charmless will push Maclaren out in front of the cameras to say we couldn’t quite get them over the line but it they were open and honest they should just say we weren’t prepared to pay what they all demanded in an inflated market.

    We’ll be outbid for everyone…we might get one or two but they won’t be the players that will make the immediate impact we need to stay up.

    We are royally fcuked and have been for years…it’s just coming home to roost this season that’s all…and to be honest we’ve been lucky to survive the last two seasons so it’s certainly been coming.

    Championship here we come…not that any championship teams will be worried because we won’t be competitive at all next year once all but Dummett and Elliot from the 1st team leave.

    Don’t you just love being a toon supporter with the 2nd worst owner in the land.

  • 7 sing in the corner // Jan 10, 2016 at 8:49 AM

    Know what you mean but the performances are not as bad as the results so hope remains, for me. People are finding that point of view annoying but I’d rather have some decent performances and bad results than bad performances AND bad results… At least it’s something to work with!

  • 8 expatmag // Jan 10, 2016 at 8:50 AM

    For Gods sake, we are totally fcuked. I gave never in all my born days seen such an inept and inane effort at business management from SO CALLED professionals as this mob.

    Let us just remind ourselves that since the summer, they have spent 50 million pounds on untried foreign youthful imports with no premiership experience. Thauvin was a joke in France, an even bigger joke here. Mitrovic appears to be nothing more than a sluggish thug with little or no pace and movement. Wijnaldum started well but has faded badly and in my opinion, is out of his depth. Mbemba is our only real shining light.

    The fact we are offering Sissoko a new and improved contract for one thing only and that was driving his value up is amateurish and demeaning and if I was Sissoko, I would be telling him where to stuff it.

    If the papers are to be believed, and the amounts of money we are allegedly offering for the likes of Koulibaly Gabbiadini, Lacazette etc smacks of a combination of desperation and unrealism because no decent player in their right mind would want to sign for us

    Get used to it lads. The current bottom three will be relegated at the end of the season and to be honest, it is no more than we deserve under this current lot of tosspots

    I feel sorry for you guys with season tickets (obviously excluding Blackley who is lying about his) who have to put up with this shit week in, week out.

  • 9 Transfer Sage // Jan 10, 2016 at 8:52 AM

    I don’t think the money we spend is the issue its always been how and when we spend money.

    When things are going well we don’t buy, one year we only signed a single loan player all season with no transfers.

    We buy players who may become more valuable instead of players for positions we need.

    The league table does lie. If you are a club like us, sunderland or villa who try nothing more than doing the bare minimum to survive then you get what you deserve. Plenty other clubs above us have tried to improve, doesn’t need to be big money buys but they buy players for the positions they need and try to improve the team.

    With the premier league being so financially rewarding a lot of clubs are spending more but also ensuring they get the most out of their money by having bettee staff running the show.

  • 10 sparky55 // Jan 10, 2016 at 8:53 AM

    next home game every fan needs to stand up half way through the first half and coletively sing “YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU’RE DOING …YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU’RE DOING…YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU’RE DOING”

    It worked to get Fat Sam fired so lets hope it can work again

  • 11 sparky55 // Jan 10, 2016 at 8:54 AM


  • 12 Transfer Sage // Jan 10, 2016 at 8:55 AM


    I just don’t understand Ashley. He’s clearly not an idiot.

    Why on earth he doesn’t hire an experienced man to run the club I have no idea. Even if you pay the man 5 million a year he could make sure we spend the money we do wisely, could still operate under similar constraints but just use the money better.

  • 13 stan anderson // Jan 10, 2016 at 8:55 AM

    Surely the loyal fans who spend a lot of money following the Toon through thick and thin,have the right to point blame at who they see fit.
    These fans dont earn a fraction of the money these Prima Donnas get paid,i refuse to say earn.
    It is their life to support the Toon and they must be well and truly sick of the shite they watch most weeks,not to mention results,since the fat slug took over our club.
    I stopped going some time ago and have no wish to go back while this shambles continues.
    Manu will probably be a false dawn,as we will sneak a win against them and all will be forgotten by the vast majority of fans.
    We need to go back to ground zero with the club and maybe suffer a couple of relegations alon the way.
    If this is what it takes for the slug to go,then so be it.
    The fans will still be there.
    Ashley and his Nobheads OOT

  • 14 stan anderson // Jan 10, 2016 at 9:01 AM

    Thauvin showed what he is when he showed up wearing the Tuxedo.
    So and yea shall reap young man.
    Most of the fans remember this when they choose who to ridicule for poor performances.

  • 15 sparky55 // Jan 10, 2016 at 9:02 AM


    Clearly he is!

  • 16 hibbitt // Jan 10, 2016 at 9:03 AM

    Mclown is puppet happy to do ashleys dirty work for his thirty pieces of silver very disappointed in Mc never thought he would be a world beater but honestly thought he was a honorable man who would do his best how wrong was i just another yes man only in for himself

  • 17 Ron Knee // Jan 10, 2016 at 9:04 AM

    Don’t hold your breath time:

  • 18 The next Mike Williamson // Jan 10, 2016 at 9:15 AM

    I think Carr does alright compared to some chief scouts. Although the players he gets are usually fairly well known, he does unearth a few like Perez. But paying 13m for Thauvin was ridiculous, especially when Leicester have just got Demari Gray for under £4m and Byram will cost about the same and they’ll be twice the player of Thauvin. Carr needs to get out of France, there’s not much left there. Germany and the Championship should be where we are looking.

  • 19 sparky55 // Jan 10, 2016 at 9:17 AM

    hahaha…good old chronicle….another story about absolutely nothing.

    Another 7 days and over half the window will be gone with not a sniff of any significance in the air.

    Our management really are top notch aren’t they.

  • 20 toonbrother // Jan 10, 2016 at 9:18 AM

    If we can get Koulibaly over the line and relegate Colocinni to the dustbin of history our problems will be solved!
    Please bring him in!
    Tall , Strong centre half is what we need

  • 21 catchy in norway // Jan 10, 2016 at 9:24 AM

    why would relegation be a bad thing? it will not happen, but it would not bother me if we were, id still be a fan

  • 22 hibbitt // Jan 10, 2016 at 9:24 AM

    toonbrother i wish it was that simple we have major problems in all departments though i do think it would be a good start……………someone said that colo is injured is that right ??

  • 23 sparky55 // Jan 10, 2016 at 9:24 AM

    hahahahaha..25 million euros for someone who’s worth no more than half that…the worlds gone mad and we’re gonna pay big style for unknowns with no premiership experience to join the sinking ship.

    Thauvin at £14 million will look cheap by the end of this window

  • 24 AncientC // Jan 10, 2016 at 9:26 AM

    The Thauvin signing has Ashley roulette gambling written all over it. Cabella was cashed in, plus extra chips to double down and win back the losses spent on buying Cabella in the first place.

    There is no doubt in my mind that if Cabella didn’t go the other say, Thauvin would not have signed whatsoever.

    Never have I seen such a poorly thought out transfer deal.

  • 25 catchy in norway // Jan 10, 2016 at 9:29 AM

    The next Mike Williamson..

    no player sets his price tag, the clubs do, and your argument is just plain stupid, Riyad Mahrez cost about 350K, wow why dont all plays cost this much ?

  • 26 nufc 11 // Jan 10, 2016 at 9:30 AM

    Burnley played very well in the pl last season just couldn’t win games and went down looking the same for us I’m afraid.

  • 27 catchy in norway // Jan 10, 2016 at 9:30 AM

    who new January was coming, go figure

  • 28 spitfire_ // Jan 10, 2016 at 9:30 AM

    The most important thing is not how many money you’ll spend, but the way you’ll spend it. Man Utd and Leicester are the best example from the both sides. Man Utd spend 250 mill for this crap, while Leicester with just 20 mill invest, from rock bottom club, now they’re in the CL spots. And that’s for less than a year. So let’s McClaren keep tell us that we must be patient.

    That’s why I don’t care how much we will spend. Spend another 50 mill, spend just 5 mill… not a difference at all, as long as our decision makers are morons and our transfer policy isn’t working at all. You can give half a billion to spend, but if you give them to a moron, prepare to laugh. The same if if you decide to buy the best, but for head coach you have a moron.

    And about our transfer policy. Even at the summer there was questions about how huge risk took Newcastle with Thauvin and Mitrovic, and now it’s obvious the answer of the question “was the huge risk justified”. And for a club with very tight budget, we’ve spend a huge amount of money for wrong players. The transfer policy didn’t change a bit in the past 9 years, despite the many failures, so it won’t change in the next summer, even if Mitrovic and Thauvin didn’t rise up massively their game.

    And why you’ll bring a lot of players from the continent, the structure of your club is continental style but meanwhile you refuse to hire a manager from the continent, and again you decide to hired a english dinosaur, who have difficulties to face the facts… AGAIN.

    The change is a must, but sadly, probably it will came when everything is too late… after our second relegation. Because the lessons isn’t learned, and soon or later, we will relegate again. Maybe it will be next summer, maybe not, but with the stubbornness of the owner, nothing good will came, or something will be changed.

    Same old, same old.

  • 29 JamesToon // Jan 10, 2016 at 9:33 AM

    Mirror saying we’re bulking at shelvey’s transfer and wage demands so we will get Saivet instead…FFS HAVE WE NOT LEARNT FROM OUR PROBLEMS??? THIS IS WHY WE ARE GOING DOWN

  • 30 optimistic prime // Jan 10, 2016 at 9:34 AM

    What was said in the chants.

    I listened to the match on radio and the commentator mentioned them, haven’t had time to read all blog, quite busy ATM having a quick catch up whilst I’ve got my nose bag on.

  • 31 Shot Bru // Jan 10, 2016 at 9:40 AM

    Optimistic prime

    We’re sh*t and we know we are!!

  • 32 Jail for Ashley // Jan 10, 2016 at 9:47 AM

    Good report over at, as always

  • 33 optimistic prime // Jan 10, 2016 at 9:50 AM


    Short brew

    They don’t like the truth then

  • 34 Shot Bru // Jan 10, 2016 at 9:56 AM


    No, and they wanted their money back!

  • 35 toonbrother // Jan 10, 2016 at 9:58 AM

    colo isnt injured
    he was taken off as a precaution

  • 36 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 10, 2016 at 9:58 AM

    Spitfire…it’s also about who you have to overlook that investment regardless of how big it is…

    …our management is not up to scratch!

    It’s also about having a system in place where there’s a direct connection between what the manager needs, what’s being scouted and who you enter negotiations with.

    Something here is definitely not right!

    Morning Ron…

  • 37 Belfast // Jan 10, 2016 at 9:59 AM

    Did the 25 million euros defender not have a 6.8 million release clause a few days ago? Maybe that was somebody else.

    Shelveys wage demands are probably just what he could easily earn elsewhere and not really that big wages in today’s climate.

    They could get a French player on half those wages though so they’d rather sign the French bloke.

  • 38 optimistic prime // Jan 10, 2016 at 10:05 AM

    We’re over 8 years into a 5yr plan so when Ashley came out with “we’ll make our own luck” I decided not to hold my breath.

    It’s a shame some fans have turned on the team, there’s one man to blame for where the club finds itself. I can’t blame the fans, they have to vent at someone, I’d rather they called some of the useless gits on the pitch than went home and gave their bairns grief or kicked the dog.

    Ashley has us here by design and I can’t see him ripping up his master plan now.
    He’s got away with it for 2 years why not 3, and he has Steeve now not Carver.


  • 39 catchy in norway // Jan 10, 2016 at 10:05 AM

    some things i just dont get, how can people say we are shyt?,, the fact is we play good football now, we have stopped conceding loads of goals, all we need to do is add a few goals to the team and we would be a solid Prem team,, we do create chances ,, and good ones at that, confidence is our teams biggest problem

  • 40 Rotonda heights // Jan 10, 2016 at 10:09 AM

    The chickens are indeed coming home to roost.
    Is it really a surprise when Ashley has appointed people like JFK twice, Wise, Llambias, AP, JC, SM, Carr, Charnley etc, drove out KK and made Wonga the tackiest of all sponsors, just to name a few major disasters.

    I would love to see SD crash and force Ash to sell us even if it meant relegation.

    Ash’s policies have backfired spectacularly ending up in eventually paying way over the odds on people like Cabella, Riviere, Mitro and Thauvin and now offering ridiculous amounts for Lacazette and Koubilaly.

    The horse has bolted!!!

    If the idea is to scout cheaply and save vast fortunes why aren’t we getting people before they cost millions. Perez is really a stand alone success as we flogged off Abeid and kemen for peanuts.

    Scout, manager, MD, owner are all a mish mash of failure and unjustified over promotion .

  • 41 sparky55 // Jan 10, 2016 at 10:10 AM


    IMO the coach is the problem…we have some decent players that when reaching their full potential will be more than good enough to secure us a regular top half finish season after season.

    We have the worst manager in the premiership and that’s the biggest problem right here right now. The players can come good under a good manager.

  • 42 toon22 // Jan 10, 2016 at 10:10 AM

    What we need is the next cheap,small,injury prone gamble with boderline mental problems to save our season.
    So long as said player might turn a huge profit,it wont matter that he plays in a possition we dont need,so long as we might make some money.

  • 43 Jail for Ashley // Jan 10, 2016 at 10:11 AM

    Couldn’t help but read the first few posts of auld Blackleys bore fest about due dilligence. One thing that stuck in my mind was that he reckons the biggest stick that is used to beat Ashley with is the free advertising. Me personally, I wouldn’t give a fcuk if we had free SD shirt sponsors, a red, blue and white away kit and even let him name the ground which will always be SJP anyway completely free of charge if he had us trying to compete in the Champions league, but he isn’t and has no intentions of doing so either. The deliberate decision to set us back after we finished fifth was a crime against football and it’s fans. We have had a relegation battle every season since bar the one where we threw the towel in January after the tenth place bonus was secured.

  • 44 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 10, 2016 at 10:12 AM

    Morning Catchy…it might be easier on the eye mate when you compare to what Pardew and Carver served up here, but it’s still so very inconsistent and ineffective!

    The team isn’t and wasn’t this bad. If McClaren cannot get better results than this then what’s the point really? He was never the right call mate…you have got to see that now 🙂

  • 45 toon22 // Jan 10, 2016 at 10:13 AM

    The simple fact is MA isnt fit to own a prem club.

  • 46 Belfast // Jan 10, 2016 at 10:16 AM

    Sparky you could argue that if the club provided McClaren with a proper premier league striker instead of untested foreigners he could do a lot better.

  • 47 geordieboy83 // Jan 10, 2016 at 10:17 AM

    Stan Anderson

    Don’t think you can tarnish the lad coz he turned up in a tuxedo. I’m fairly sure mbemba did the same thing and is loved for it. I remember at the time everyone thought it was funny and a nice touch that the 2 turned up in tuxedos, however once results went against shearer and co lambasted them for it.

  • 48 spitfire_ // Jan 10, 2016 at 10:19 AM

    jesperfuglsang – capt’n awesome of the lemon crew

    That’s why I mention the morons. The decision makers have also a big part.

  • 49 AncientC // Jan 10, 2016 at 10:19 AM

    Buy cheap, buy twice.

    As for these horses, Ashley buys colts as they can be sold when they become horses.

  • 50 Belfast // Jan 10, 2016 at 10:20 AM

    Though you could also argue he new exactly what he was signing up for.

  • 51 sparky55 // Jan 10, 2016 at 10:23 AM


    You think a good striker will all of a sudden solve all our problems?

  • 52 kakaobi // Jan 10, 2016 at 10:24 AM

    If we are relegated I’ll still be a fan but sadly been a supporter will be harder as there are many midweek games and games getting moved to a Friday night and due to my shift work I think the £500 for my season ticket makes bad value for money. So I have a decision to make this month do I cancel my ticket or not, I’ll still be a fan if we go down and will go to a few games as well just don’t want to pay £500 for them few games decisions decisions

  • 53 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 10, 2016 at 10:25 AM

    Whole hearted Agree – If the powers that be had provided McLaren with a proven PREMIER LEAGUE STRIKER not cheapshot foreign imports then we would not be in the mess we are in.
    This season I think we have played better football than the last two seasons – created more chances but CANNOT put the chances away.
    I reckon we would be at least 10 points better off and still in the cup if we had that strikrer

  • 54 davetoon // Jan 10, 2016 at 10:26 AM

    Looking at that picture makes me so so angry

  • 55 Rotonda heights // Jan 10, 2016 at 10:26 AM

    why does sm go on about having had 25 crosses. Crosses hardly guarantee goals as 90% of the time, arial ones especially, are headed away by CBs, with through balls and cut backs from the edge of the area to an onrushing player proving much more effective.

    As AW said usually crosses is just giving the ball away and playing percentages. AC has only scored 2 in 19.

  • 56 Belfast // Jan 10, 2016 at 10:27 AM

    Nope but we definitely wouldn’t be in the bottom three in my opinion.

  • 57 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 10, 2016 at 10:28 AM

    Rotonda…if it just about money or in this case buying cheaply then you are very right when say why aren’t they buying these players before they cost millions….

    …why aren’t we being run more like Ajax.

    We cannot even develope players ourselves.

    I have said it before even certain posters on here try to explain the actions of Ashley, that it doesn’t make sense.

    I simply don’t get what goes on at this club…not from a football standpoint and not from a financial standpoint. It just doesn’t make sense.

  • 58 John Tudor // Jan 10, 2016 at 10:29 AM


  • 59 Rotonda heights // Jan 10, 2016 at 10:29 AM


    that’s the trouble though we are not even buying cheaply. The best paprt of 30M for Mitro and Thauvin is a scandalous waste of resources amid the laughing suggestion that player’s characters were vetted. Carr has to go along with the rest of the circus.

  • 60 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 10, 2016 at 10:32 AM

    Belfast…maybe bottom 4, but who’s counting!

  • 61 Belfast // Jan 10, 2016 at 10:33 AM

    Yep Charlie especially the last few weeks. He even came out himself after the Arsenal game and said as much.

  • 62 AncientC // Jan 10, 2016 at 10:34 AM

    I would be more concerned about efforts on target that overall crosses, not discounting the importance of supply though.

    They have managed 3 shots on target within the two games against Sheffield Wednesday reserves at home, and a weakened Watford side away.

    A Martinez size could go out and do better than that in 10 minutes of football, nevermind 180 minutes against weakened opposition.

  • 63 JamesToon // Jan 10, 2016 at 10:34 AM


    Club just not learning their lessons. Frustrating to say the least.

    Sometimes think that relegation might be good for the club long term, get rid of everyone and start again, get a good young manager to do a sort of Eddie Howe type job like how he transformed Bournemouth. Hopefully get a wealthy owner who knows how to run a football club properly and cares.

  • 64 expatmag // Jan 10, 2016 at 10:35 AM

    I see Ben Yedder got a hat trick for Toulouse at Rennes yesterday……..parting gift maybe???????

  • 65 JamesToon // Jan 10, 2016 at 10:36 AM

    Pretty sure rivière scored a few hat tricks in France

  • 66 JamesToon // Jan 10, 2016 at 10:38 AM

    Say if we did get relegated, I think I wouldn’t mind seeing Cathro taking the job on, he’s a purist and a bright young coach

  • 67 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 10, 2016 at 10:40 AM

    Are we implying now that going down will remove the management and the current ownership?

    …what have given ppl that idea.

    I’ll tell you what will happen. It will have no effect in who’s our manager. The best players will leave, but guess who’s still scouting and buying the players. You guessed right Carr and Charnley.

    Ashley won’t be selling, but he will be giving us another emergency loan!

  • 68 sparky55 // Jan 10, 2016 at 10:40 AM


    Amen to that…I’d take that right now because at least we’ll some fun on the way…it’s just a miserable durge right now

  • 69 Jail for Ashley // Jan 10, 2016 at 10:41 AM

    We’re conceding less goals, we’ve got the third worst GA in the division, with would you believe it, the two clubs below us having worse

  • 70 Ron Knee // Jan 10, 2016 at 10:46 AM


    You’re probably right, unfortunately. When we’re relegated, McClaren will resign, only to be replaced by another dinosaur selected by our brilliant board.

  • 71 Belfast // Jan 10, 2016 at 10:48 AM

    We wouldn’t be in a relegation battle Jesper. Villa, Everton, Arsenal off the top of my head probably would have had the Mackems dead and buried by half time too.

    Sack him today and bring in who ever you want. They’ll have the exact same problem without a proven goalscorer in the team.

    You’re only as good as your players Jesper. Just ask the highly regarded Remi Garde who was the bright young thing only a few months ago, or Pardew (woops) who looks like he knows what he’s doing all of a sudden.

  • 72 sparky55 // Jan 10, 2016 at 10:49 AM

    When you let in average of 2 goals a game you need to score an average of three a game to get some wins and even that wont be enough in some games.

    Midfield and Defence is more a problem than a striker because if we defend and create better (which we all know we can) then goals with the people we have will come.

    We do not however have an average of three goals a game in our team locker so surely a good CDM and a replacement for Colo and a good coach should be the priority.

  • 73 eaststandgeordie1982 // Jan 10, 2016 at 10:50 AM

    Carr needs sacked smac should be allowed to get who he wants this window starting with a striker that’s a must. We all know we won’t get anyone in just another roll of the dice this window.

  • 74 colwell // Jan 10, 2016 at 10:52 AM

    Bournemouth signing Iturbe and Afobe shows a team wanting to stay up. We on the other hand should have already had the players we needed done for Jan 1st.

    After losing a billion last week maybe MA is thinking fcuk it why throw more money in to an already sinking ship.

  • 75 Ron Knee // Jan 10, 2016 at 10:54 AM


    I think a better manager would get more out of this team – although I admit the odds were stacked against McClaren from the start.

  • 76 bladeuser // Jan 10, 2016 at 10:54 AM

    The away fans can target who they like if u want to stick up for any player get your arse on any given day on a bus car or train pay the money and watch your team being beat nine times out of ten if you don’t stop F::::::@ moaning about it because all u do is talk bullshit on here and do F@@@ all to help
    SHEEP F@@@ off out

  • 77 sparky55 // Jan 10, 2016 at 10:55 AM

    The quickest way to bring about a turnaround in results is to sack Maclaren and replace him with a competent manager…it’s very simple

  • 78 JamesToon // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:00 AM


    Do you not think Ashley will just get fed up if we get relegated? All that money hell lose out on, do you not think after 8 years he’ll be like, “you know what, I’ve been trying for 8 years and just can’t be bothered anymore, I’m off”

  • 79 Transfer Sage // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:01 AM


    I don’t think we play better football. We are like Man Utd (just worse), keep the ball for the sake of it at times but do very very little with it in the final third.

    We create very few chances and when we do we don’t score them.

    A player like Ba would see is a couple of places higher but not much in my opinion. We need to add a clinical finisher, a creative midfielder and a good winger for going forward.

    Also need a left back and centre back.

  • 80 arpeco19 // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:02 AM

    Judge me after 10 games, nah Steve I judged you after the preseason games, you were hopeless then and taken it into the season, now after half the season I believe you’re going to get us relegated. PLEASE RESIGN.

  • 81 AncientC // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:06 AM

    Putting money into u21 players with a view to their value increasing has got to be the cheapest form of investment possible – aimed at avoiding the drop.

    Thauvin was only signed as a way to get money back for Cabella.

    Wijnaldum was the only senior player signed in the summer. Four senior players left in the summer, and more were shipping out during the course of last season too.

    Younger players generally get paid less, as do players from foreign leagues, which is why if you look through the list of transfers made whilst Ashley has been here, you will only find a few from other Premier League clubs, and they were not expensive either – Obertan and Joey Barton… making the acquirement of Shelvey extremely unlikely.

  • 82 toon kk // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:12 AM

    A successful club needs a good balance of starting with quality players, which we lack and a very good manager, we’ve got a second class one, but he’s limited to our performances down to the players.
    Then we’re stuck with Mash who doesn’t understand football, just profits.

  • 83 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:12 AM

    Ancient…that’s a general concern you raised there. Why does British cost so much both on terms of fee and wages?

    …does it explain why not many Brits play outside of England? Well ability is a matter as well.

    I am not sure these inflated prices do any good for anyone unless you are a rich club.

    No doubt we should be buying more players who qualify as homegrown. This team is as unbalanced as it gets and the managers we have seem reluctant to make changes in the starting eleven.

  • 84 Belfast // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:16 AM

    I’m not even his biggest fan believe me and he annoys me with his post match quotes (always the same) after every defeat.

    I just think any manager they bring in is automatically handicapped unless they completely ditch their flawed transfer policy and refusal to pay the going rate in wages that the good players command. Shelvey a classic example of this. We’re probably baulking at his wage demands that he could easily earn at the mighty Crystal palace.

  • 85 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:16 AM

    JamesToon…if Ashley was afraid of relegation and what it would bring he would be running Newcastle differently!

    The last time we got relegated he gave Newcastle a emergency loan. He’s not paying for the trouble we are!

  • 86 AncientC // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:17 AM

    jesperfuglsang – it isn’t just homegrown players which I am angling at, more buying players from other Premier League clubs – be they homegrown or not.

    My guess is that players in the Premier League know their value – making dealing with Mike Ashley nigh on impossible.

  • 87 geordieboy83 // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:18 AM


    What do you do to help mate, you see the negative in fcuking everything, why are we sheep? Just coz we sheep have differing views. By your arguments you make the ones who try and stay positive are sheep so then equally the negative ones must be sheep aswell. All you do is spout expletives, angry little man

  • 88 Tsunki // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:21 AM

    Jail –

    I’d be surprised if Blackley pops up before the heat dies down. He’s an employee of Ashleys in some capacity, possibly Charnleys gardener I dunno

    He decided to take a break after his defence of the advertising thing (which he’s fixated with along with the loan scenario more than anyone else) but didn’t like it one bit when he was found to be deflecting from the fact he really hates most – that Ashley owns a business outright in which Blackley is merely a punter and no more. Being a better fan than any of us lot, his world would crash down if he entertained the idea that the paying fans are being taken for mugs and that Ashley is riding on the romantic association with the club “we need your support, together we are United, 12th man emails and press soundbites).

    You never know he might get primed for one of his childish outbursts, I think I hurt his pride a bit 🙂

  • 89 ronaldo aarons // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:21 AM

    I don’t see how another manager will help. The new man will still be left with the same players that don’t convert enough of their chances. Finishing chances is in the hands of the players. Our performances haven’t been too bad the past few games; villa we missed chances, Everton we missed chances but still played ok we got dominated in parts and played really good in parts, west brom was terrible, arsenal we were the better team and missed enough chances and at Watford we were supposedly the better team again and we did have a few chances. Before that was Liverpool and Tottenham. It’s fair to say the mclaren has had us playing well and creating chances, it’s down to the players to score.

  • 90 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:22 AM

    Belfast…but at least we as fans can show that we do not except any inept opportunist and just come here and pick up wages!

    …we are like the charity of football clubs and we just accept anything….because in the end it’s Ashley’s fault!

    This will always be our downfall…our own rationalizing!

  • 91 Tsunki // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:25 AM

    Anyway it Look good. This starts to feel like another bland transfer window, very few tangible rumours for me point to no surprises. Batten down the hatches and ride the rough sea I think. Even if we beat manure, I don’t think that will signal a steadying of the ship. We’ll have to suffer game by game.

  • 92 angelswithdirtyfaces // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:25 AM


    Good point on ‘senior’ players. We needed four Winis last August, we got one and some players with ability shown in lower leagues but only development potential as far as EPL is concerned.

    We now need 3 ideally 4 EPL quality players from the moment they walk on to the pitch. We don;t have time to develop anybodythis season. I think Thauvin, Mitro etc., will be real quality in the future, in the right team, with the right coaching style and attitudes. That ain’t the Toon in January 2016.

    Shelvey is worth his crust. He has a proven record, So is Austin, though I’d view him as a stopgap only. Will a 6ft 5″ CB from Italy do the biz ? We need somebody of Stones’ quality to replace Colo at the back and an infintely better LB as first pick.

    Pardew knew exactly what he was doing in paying big bucks for Dreamboat. It has worked for him.

  • 93 ronaldo aarons // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:26 AM

    I was against mclaren last January and in the summer but when he was appointed he I said I’ll give him a year and that’s what I’ll do. I do actually remember last January when Pardew left a certain toonbrother was saying mclaren would be perfect for us and anyone who thinks otherwise is basically an idiot.

  • 94 Transfer Sage // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:28 AM


    I agree with you there.

    We all know Ashley is the problem but the harder we make it for his yes men who are basically stealing a living from us (especially charnley, at least McClaren has had some experience and some success in his career).

    Ultimately we need rid of Ashley but the more pressure put on his yes men will make it harder for him.

  • 95 angelswithdirtyfaces // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:28 AM

    Tsunko @ 88 substitute JIB for Blackley and you’ve got the two placemen spot on. Unremitting support for the regime, and a level of unbelievable optimism esp .by JIB that makes you think the second cioming will arrive at SJP shortly

  • 96 toon kk // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:28 AM

    Shelvey gets a start for Swansea today.

  • 97 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:28 AM

    AncientC…it’s difficult buying players who are doing well from other PL clubs.

    …look at the last transfer window.

    But we do need more balance / experience and we do need homegrown players. We are not hatching ’em ourselves (not with any effect) so well have to buy ’em!

  • 98 angelswithdirtyfaces // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:29 AM

    I and O are next to each other . apols Tsunki

  • 99 ronaldo aarons // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:30 AM

    Have you seen koulibaly play? He’s a good cb, very good in fact. I however have not jumped on the stones bandwagon yet, I personally don’t think he is all that. As a footballer yes but not as a cb.

  • 100 nearly // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:30 AM

    i maybe wrong but i think shelvey will arrive soon

  • 101 Transfer Sage // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:30 AM

    I think the stick Thauvin get’s isn’t really aimed at him it’s more at the policy which has resulted in him coming here.

    People don’t like the fact that we continue to buy untested players who aren’t a priority purely because they may make a profit a few years down the line.

    Nobody would see Thauvin as a problem is we had already signed a couple of good players to allow him to slowly bed into the side.

  • 102 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:31 AM

    TS…finally someone who gets it 😀

  • 103 AncientC // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:31 AM

    angelswithdirtyfaces – I am a fan of Mitrovic myself, he only turned 21 quite recently. For his age, his all round player is very mature. Mitro has all the hallmarks of being an instrumental player… sure he has a few niggles to iron out, but that has got to be expected at his age.

  • 104 Tsunki // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:33 AM

    Angels , no bother I ‘ave ‘ad worse. 🙂

  • 105 ronaldo aarons // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:35 AM

    Transfer @ 101

    You may be right but I don’t think the player will be seeing it like that and not sure if it will help with him getting that unnecessary stick.

  • 106 nearly // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:37 AM

    i think mitro has been putting too much pressure on himself and thats why he is struggling a bit he needs to chill out and he will start and convert some of these chances coming his way the lad has the talent no doubt about it

  • 107 ronaldo aarons // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:37 AM

    Ancient @ 103

    Agree with you. When we bought him it was he was a raw player with potential and that’s exactly what he looks like. Some fans give him stick because they expected him to be the finished article.

  • 108 ronaldo aarons // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:38 AM

    ***It was seen

  • 109 hibbitt // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:38 AM

    ronaldo…..i was one of the people we thought MCLOWN would do ok not a world beater but ok but like most that work for the club he’s fell it to ashleys mould way to easy just another sell out on us fans

  • 110 tomellifred360 // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:41 AM

    On a brighter note I am 100% sure we will beat ManU on Tuesday. Trust me!

  • 111 John Tudor // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:41 AM

    cluck cluck cluck

  • 112 welshgeordie9 // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:41 AM

    So the chants have started then, it was only matter of time i guess, my worry now on Tuesday night, players will be scared to put a foot wrong after yesterday, as soon as the chants starts there’s only going to be one winner, to make matters worse we are live on bt as well.

  • 113 Transfer Sage // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:42 AM


    No I don’t think it will help him at all. But hopefully he can see the anger isn’t all directed at him.

    The club continues to let everyone down, so disappointing.

  • 114 John Tudor // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:43 AM

    shelvey has said NO

  • 115 ronaldo aarons // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:44 AM

    You say he’s fell into Ashley’s mould but how if you don’t mind me asking ? Because I don’t see it yet and think we can only tell at the end of the window if we haven’t brought anyone in. I think him putting out a strong team was also a sign that he’s still his own man whereas Pardew and carver would have definitely played the kids.

  • 116 SPRINGY // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:45 AM

    morning all
    since most would agree we need a striker with pace and a eye for goal……who realistically is worth mentioning in regards to joining….names anyone?

  • 117 hibbitt // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:45 AM

    wont pay him the going rate other clubs will

  • 118 optimistic prime // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:45 AM

    Don’t worry lads we have the 3 wise men and Bob Moncour on the board.
    How can we fail?

  • 119 ronaldo aarons // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:47 AM

    Transfer @ 113

    I hope he can see it too. There’s a good player in there.

  • 120 hibbitt // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:49 AM

    bob was far better as the greeter then a broad member another yes man

  • 121 ilovetoon8788 // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:49 AM

    this club rot is very deep now that no signings will help solve the problem.

    it was long overdue but we finally deserve what’s coming. and we won’t be back in the top flight for a very very very long time..

  • 122 BandB // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:49 AM

    A person who was there gives an opinion on the chanting.

    “Isolated shouts of “we want our money back” and other insults were followed by a more concerted chorus of “you’re not fit to wear the shirt” in the closing stages – the latter directed at Thauvin after he left the field to receive treatment on what looked a dubious injury.

    Post-match booing was certainly anything but universal and was far louder and lengthier at Palace and West Brom. McClaren mentioning it in his post-match press conference elevated it to a level it didn’t warrant.”

    From NUFC.Com

  • 123 ronaldo aarons // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:51 AM


    Remy on loan. After the recent rumours of gabbiadini, although likely untrue, I would go all out for him as the club are willing to sell. I watch Italian football quite a lot and I’m a big fan, would transform our attack. Even getting Charlie Austin would guarantee us goals.

  • 124 toon kk // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:55 AM

    I do think MA will put his hand in his pocket, whether whoever comes in is good enough or what we need remains to be seen.
    But down to our poor scouting and MA regime they’ll probably waste more money.

  • 125 nearly // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:55 AM

    john tudor@114

    where did you get that info from then

  • 126 ronaldo aarons // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:56 AM

    As a midfield signing I would go all out for johannes geis and pay him whatever it takes. Not height wise but offers everything else that we are crying out for.

  • 127 hibbitt // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:56 AM

    i just wonder if the crowd are starting to get to to Mc clown he’s had it easy so far if we go behind against man u think the mood could change from there

  • 128 John Tudor // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:58 AM

    his missus whispered it

  • 129 BandB // Jan 10, 2016 at 11:59 AM


    The Mirror, one of the club’s trusted partners, reported last night that WE has cooled our interest in Shelvey after going pale at his wage demands. The article suggested Palace were now in the hot seat.

  • 130 ronaldo aarons // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:01 PM

    I’m sure that Pardew said yesterday that they are not signing any defenders or midfielders and are looking for a striker. I believe this to be loic remy and not Charlie austin.

  • 131 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:01 PM

    Shelvey rumoured to be going to Palace as the TOON would not match his wage demands – Sad when teams like Palace can outbid the ‘Mighty’ Magpies

  • 132 John Tudor // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:04 PM

    when will you lot get it
    we are being taken for a ride to hell in a hand cart

    bolt the ffing horse on lmto

  • 133 nearly // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:08 PM

    im not sure that this story about shelvey,s wage demands are true but we will see ,i think remi will end up at palace

  • 134 tomellifred360 // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:10 PM

    @BandB I was at the match. I thought Thauvin had had his hand stood on. Rob Elliot ran over to him and was waving to the bench not to send the physio on. It was the fianl few minutes. We were attacking and trying to build momentum. The physio came on, hence the boos.

    The support for the team was truly amazing, but half way through the second half it started to become negative. Fans vented their spleen at Ashley (Get out of our club), and at the players (You’re not fit to wear the shirt) and at the club as a whole (We’re shit and we’re sick of it!) . Lots of gallows humour as well (We lose every week).

  • 135 Rotonda heights // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:13 PM


    I think what really riles is not so much the policy but rather the person implicating it, ie Carr

    How is that Mahrez, Kante and Payet can come from the same league for peanuts and hit the ground running, having a great impact,, but we throw 14M at Thauvin despite all the reports we’ve had of his form and attitude and he’s yet to show anything at all of note.

    If carr is spending 90% of his time in France what the hell is he doing? Plus he was instrumental in getting SM when he must know a legion of good foreign coaches and managers he could have put forward.

    I used to be a Carr fan but sadly he needs pensioned off very quickly. But as there are no penalties for failure at NUFC that won’t happen either.

  • 136 Thump // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:16 PM

    @tomellifred: Was the chant directed at Thauvin or the players in general? I was under the impression it was the players, and Thauvin just happened to be caught in the crossfire (at least from what I could gather on the radio, anyway).

  • 137 toon kk // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:18 PM

    Of course it’s going to be Very hard to bring in new signings, what’s in it for them? A relegation battle, a club with no ambition and second rate team mates.

    Hardly a prospective career move.

  • 138 Rotonda heights // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:19 PM

    geordieboy 83

    Tbf, NUFC do tend to make you use expletives

  • 139 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:21 PM

    Poor little Thauvin. No wonder he gets booed by travelling fans, who’ve every right to boo. If a player doesn’t show heart, fight and commitment, he deserves it. I don’t know whether or not he did yesterday, but I’ve seen him enough times ducking tackles and prancing around like a little girl scared to get hurt. Are you listening Mr Carr?

  • 140 nearly // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:21 PM


    no doubt in my mind the chants were aimed at
    thauvin, very harsh

  • 141 BandB // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:23 PM

    Were you there Nearly?
    What did you see and hear?

  • 142 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:24 PM

    I note Expat is calling me a liar again on this thread. He must be the only one who doesn’t believe I’m a ST holder. I don’t know how he’s got the brass neck as I provided 100% proof of his skulduggery yesterday on this blog.

  • 143 nightfa11 // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:24 PM

    I blame mclaren for the mess we’re in.. Hes so called expert who is payed millions, yet he needs 6 months to start experimenting with tactics..still playing players out of position although we lose almost every match..

    Carr is supplying with national players and not from countries such as San marino. Kuvajt or fu***** andorra.. But from top european countries which achieved more than england..on youth or senior level..

    You want british players? All fine and well, But I cant think of any british leader (now that gerrard, lampard and Rio are gone) at the top club, whod take responsibility and push the team.. Maybe rooney and barkley.. But rooney lost his motivation and everton are not a top club.. And a leader in cm is sth we need as a priority..

  • 144 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:25 PM

    Good post by Ashleysmate earlier.

  • 145 hibbitt // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:27 PM

    nearly were you at the game radio newcastle said it was yet from the highlights it was very hard to tell ??

  • 146 BandB // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:29 PM

    NUFC.Com suggests the chanting was nothing out of the ordinary, and was surprised McClaren made such an issue of it.
    Though it’s a smashing little divide and conquer topic to get the fans blaming each other.

  • 147 Rotonda heights // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:30 PM


    ”you’re only as good as your players”

    – – – – –

    Sorry it’s the sum of the parts and a good motivational and shrewd manager like ranieri can get a team of journeymen playing out of their skins.

    SM much like SA, AP and JC before him is a manager who plays with fear, always looking not to lose rather than to win.

    SM finally tried something else yesterday, ie playing a sweeper which worked well but Mitro and to a lesser degree perez and Wijni don’t seem to be able to hit a barn door at the moment.

  • 148 hibbitt // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:31 PM

    blackley who ashleys mate ??

  • 149 BandB // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:31 PM

    The whole debate soon will be about who is REALLY to blame for the relegation struggle …the fans who boo or those who don’t.

  • 150 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:34 PM

    don’t just blame McLaren
    Give Mclaren his due he noticed we did not have the players to play the passing game so changed to play the more direct route game.
    Which is working except for our Mitrovic, Di Jong, Wiljinanum, Sissoko, Perez et al who can’t put the ball in the bloody net. If we had put our easy chances away we would be a lot better off.

  • 151 hibbitt // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:34 PM

    B and B ….Mc clown it just another pr tool used when the club need a break anything to take the heat out of a situation

  • 152 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:35 PM

    Pardew will be loving this I bet there is a whole list of players that were talked about that he can just sign up now knowing we will never challenge for them !

    If Palace got Remy and Shelvey they could be right in the hunt for europe this season

    If we got Remy and Shelvey we might just manage to stay up


  • 153 BandB // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:37 PM


    The seeds of a re-run of last season’s “back us or it’s YOUR FAULT” campaign were laid in McClaren’s post match comments.

  • 154 John Tudor // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:37 PM

    well do something about it

  • 155 nightfa11 // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:39 PM


    I agree, But he had 6 months to study our team (we approached him in january).. And 6 months to work with our players, yet he still doesnt know what to do.. Like i said.. Hes an “expert ” whos paid millions..

  • 156 toon kk // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:43 PM

    Tbf it’s taken alot of people to realise our squad needs strengthening a long time, many thought we had a squad capable of playing ìn Europe not so long ago, but Pards was holding us back. We all knew Carver was oot of his depth, but of course it is going to take Macca time. We’re not Chelsea overwhelmed with quality,where a quality management makes a he’ll of a difference, we’ve got a budget mixed in with “for tomorrow players” of mixed standards.
    We’re in the bottom three for a reason.

  • 157 BandB // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:44 PM

    The Hibbitt family world-wide must hate predictive text.

  • 158 nearly // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:45 PM


    it was just the usual crack that you get with the away fans laughing at ourselves,like your not that special we get beat every week,stuff like that but you could feel the frustration building as the game went on you could sense the anger building,i think we played ok the confidence in front of goal has gone really should have won maybe the fans thought thauvin was sherking by getting treatment so late on,turning on players like this is a bad thing it destoys confidence and gets everybodys back up ,we all need to pull together right now, i do believe things will turn

  • 159 Jib // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:45 PM

    The chants against Thauvin were enough to evince a comment from the (Watford supporting)
    commentators I listened to.
    Actually Watford isn’t too far from Shirebrook they were probably on Ashley’s payroll as well !

  • 160 BandB // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:48 PM


    I know.
    I saw what a long think it took you to decide the Shelvey wage story you hadn’t head five minutes earlier was unreliable.

  • 161 John Tudor // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:49 PM

    derbyshire/nottinghamshire close to watford


  • 162 SPRINGY // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:51 PM

    remy is the only one who i know could come in and seemingly do a job from the off….austin been injured on and off all season so dont no his fitness situation……have’nt seen enough of gabbiadini to make an opinion other then you tube…..there is a lot of players like ben yedder,ntep who could chip in and supply but a striker of class is needed now

  • 163 Goofy // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:51 PM

    Watching Oxford v Swansea. Oxford are playing great. Shelvey looks sh;t

  • 164 Jib // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:53 PM

    I cannot accept that at the time we bid for him Mitrovic was a bad buy.
    He’d played half a seasonn for Dinamo Zagreb and 2 seasons for Anderlecht .
    At both clubs he’d been a one goal in 2 games player.
    He’d scored 6 goals in Euro competition and 2 goals for the full Serbian national team.

    At only 20 years old that’s some record.

    I don’t think the coaching at Benton has spoiled him but his movement once in the box looks all wrong , (mind so does Perez’) , our build up play and service into the danger areas is as good as I’ve seen in the last 10 years. We badly need a fox in the box.

  • 165 Belfast // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:54 PM

    Rotonda Raneri was getting beat by the Faroe Islands a few months ago. His Greece team where in our Euro group and they were absolutely shite. People laughed when Leicester appointed him.

    Two players playing out of their skins and a classic example of only being as good as your players.

    Put them in our team for these last six months and McClaren would probably be the dogs bollocks.

  • 166 firebug666 // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:56 PM

    Somebody is lying, either our club:-

    Reports from France have claimed the Magpies have tabled a 25 million euros – around £18.3million – bid for Lacazette.

    However, sources on Tyneside were mystified by the suggestion and insisted that is simply not the case.

    Alexandre Lacazette:-

    Lacazette said: “I read what you write in the media.

    “Now I am at Olympique Lyonnais, I want to have a good second half of the season, so for me a departure is not valid.

    “This is my agent, David Venditelli, who cares.

    “He knows very well that I did not want to leave, so he declined the offer.”

    Or maybe just the press!

  • 167 Jib // Jan 10, 2016 at 1:01 PM

    Shirebrook to Watford 133 miles straight down the M1 easy peasy less than 2 hours (not too far lke I said).

    Probably the other side of the world to someone from Hylton !

  • 168 John Tudor // Jan 10, 2016 at 1:02 PM

    McClaren will only ever be bollocks

  • 169 John Tudor // Jan 10, 2016 at 1:03 PM

    yeah i guess you enjoy being dragged by the nads for 133 miles

  • 170 John Tudor // Jan 10, 2016 at 1:04 PM

    where is hylton

  • 171 John Tudor // Jan 10, 2016 at 1:07 PM

    jib stop the interaction it doesn’t suit you, my last post directed to you shit stirrer

  • 172 angelswithdirtyfaces // Jan 10, 2016 at 1:07 PM

    ronaldo / ancient

    I’m sure Mitro will come good .. and he may only need a wee bit better quality service to start knocking them in but we also need some backup who can take the pressure off him while he is still developing his EPL game. I don’t want Mitro to get into the EPL and develop at the Toon then get peed off and move to a club where he is right away a 20 a season man – I’d rather he did it with us. I also think we are in danger of overplaying Perez. He may need resting. He is not the finished article and needs proper man management.

    As for the CB situation – the point I was trying to make was that we need somebody who is quality and EPL ready – if Koulibaly can deliver then great – but we do not need a player with potential as the 2nd CB alongside Mbemba. We do need height there yes and ideally somebody who doesn’t get turned too easily. But we need a cool head and experience too. I cited Stones’ as an experienced EPL player but with a big price on his head – probably not the best example to choose as he will be overpriced for his ability level..

  • 173 nearly // Jan 10, 2016 at 1:08 PM

    jib @164

    spot on

  • 174 John Tudor // Jan 10, 2016 at 1:10 PM

    or will it be another n1g n0@ or fcukoff and die cnut slanging match people know you for what you really are .

  • 175 stuart no9 // Jan 10, 2016 at 1:10 PM

    stuart no9 // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:57 PM

    Again , we as fanS IMO are the problem – the root problem . No not because of the teams inept players and managers- well not to an extent any way , we the fans cant be blamed for misses that go on in front of goal , we as fans cant be blamed for the weekly sitter micho misses , we azs fans cant be blamed for the inept manager who was brought in after being sacked from every club he manages IN LOWER LEAGUES, no we are not to blame for any of that – well, not directly anyway , what the fans ARE to blame for is ALLOWING our owner to commit the crimes agasnst NUFC without even a whimper , They ( the 52000 followers) have repeatedly ignored his henius concept on how a football club should be ran, they have constantly believed his jibberish bile that flows fron his ugly frame to to instill into his deciples that he really has NUFC at heart.- give me your money and WE WILL be winners , the only time we will be winners is when he is gone from our club for good, jeez, cant you see that ??? is it so difficult to get that ??. 9 years – 9 pathetic years of nothing , misery , lies , and YOU still dont get it . wow, the mind really does boggle, AND-AND YOU had the audacity to blame a young kid yesterday telling him that he wasnt fit to wear the shirt -you lot are a disgrace to NUFC , I hopr you are proud of ypurselves this morning . thickos. newcastle fans ???? do me a favour

  • 176 Jib // Jan 10, 2016 at 1:12 PM

    The reference to Hylton hit home methinks 😀
    John Tudor you little mackem tinker you 😎

  • 177 John Tudor // Jan 10, 2016 at 1:14 PM

    jib i’m closer to st james’s than you have ever been you little racist homophobic shit stirrer

  • 178 John Tudor // Jan 10, 2016 at 1:15 PM

    do your homework sonny

  • 179 firebug666 // Jan 10, 2016 at 1:16 PM

    stuart no9

    Are you upset about something? 😀

  • 180 hibbitt // Jan 10, 2016 at 1:16 PM

    john tudor@177…………….SPOT ON

  • 181 angelswithdirtyfaces // Jan 10, 2016 at 1:17 PM


    If you feel the service into the box is as good as any time in the last ten years then do take off your rosy tinted specs.

    If we were making that many chances we’d have scored a lot more goals. We scored 65 goals in 07-08 – so 33 by the half way stage of the season. How many we got so far, how many have we scored the last five games ?

  • 182 Jib // Jan 10, 2016 at 1:17 PM

    “have repeatedly ignored his henius concept on how a football club should be ran”

    Just sprayed coffee over the dog !!!

    Ha ha ha

  • 183 Goofy // Jan 10, 2016 at 1:17 PM

    3-1 Oxford 😀

  • 184 Ron Knee // Jan 10, 2016 at 1:18 PM

    Not looking good for Swansea.

  • 185 John Tudor // Jan 10, 2016 at 1:19 PM

    comes on here post stuff from goggle as if he is some oracle and leader of men please address nothing more to me as you are a waste of repetitive strain injury to my fingers shirebrook close to watford

  • 186 SPRINGY // Jan 10, 2016 at 1:20 PM

    swansea maybe our saving grace come the end of the season….they are spiralling…odd win but not exactly pulling up trees

  • 187 John Tudor // Jan 10, 2016 at 1:22 PM

    they are getting the odd win but are we

  • 188 Jib // Jan 10, 2016 at 1:24 PM


    That’s the weirdest use of stats I’ve ever seen
    You’ve just (probably inadvertently) backed up my case.
    Martins 10 goals
    Owen 13 goals
    We end up 12th on 43 points

  • 189 Ron Knee // Jan 10, 2016 at 1:25 PM

    3-2. Interesting.

  • 190 firebug666 // Jan 10, 2016 at 1:26 PM

    Moussa Sissoko talking to NUFC TV:

    “We dominated the game from the beginning until the end, we had a lot of chances which we didn’t score and then we had one mistake and they score.

    “So we are really disappointed and we need to keep looking forward and try to score.

    “We have another game on Tuesday, a massive game at home against Manchester United, so we hope we will win the game.”

    ‘A familiar story, go one down and can’t seem to be able to get back into games?’

    “Yes, I think the last three of our games we play very well and create a lot of chances but we don’t score – and if you don’t score…the opposition can score at any moment.

    “Today we are a little disappointed but we need to look forward, a good recovery tomorrow and then training on Monday – do everything to win this game against Manchester United.”

    ‘Gini Wijnaldum has been fantastic all season, a very rare mistake (led to Watford’s goal) from him?’

    “Yes of course, from the beginning Gini played very well. Showed some very good things – he works a lot in training.”

    ‘Pleased to have another game only three days later?’

    “Yes, I think it is a good thing to have another game soon and we will do everything to forget about this game – we have a massive game against a very big team so I hope we will win.

    “When you play the big teams you need to be solid and give 100% because they have a lot of very good players – but I know we can beat anyone as we did it against Tottenham and Liverpool.

    “Tuesday is going to be a very big game so I hope we will see a good Newcastle and a great victory.”

  • 191 SPRINGY // Jan 10, 2016 at 1:27 PM

    i get what ya saying just get the feeling they might struggle the rest of the season and im hoping a few transfers will get us going……blind hope ano but still gotta hope!

  • 192 hibbitt // Jan 10, 2016 at 1:27 PM

    as B and B says you can feel the blame shifting towards the fans this lot wont except its there fault ….bad scouting……bad buying……bad management………bad coaching can’t be us to blame its the fans fault

  • 193 firebug666 // Jan 10, 2016 at 1:29 PM

    Ron Knee

    I expect Oxford will tire and Swansea will pull it back.

    As foe Moussa, how long are we going to hang onto “we did it against Spurs and Liverpool”? We have done FA since, Concentrate on winning the next game, not on game we won weeks ago.

  • 194 John Tudor // Jan 10, 2016 at 1:33 PM

    the man who owns nufc wont pay the going rates
    a lot of players see nufc as a graveyard. it will take a giant effort to escape, a one which the players we have and could acquire wont be up to it.
    i do hope with all my heart we can ….but i doubt it

  • 195 Ron Knee // Jan 10, 2016 at 1:34 PM


    Was the interview in English? And thanks for the tip on Hola!

  • 196 John Tudor // Jan 10, 2016 at 1:36 PM

    easy response hibbitt

    go but remain silent or do not go i prefer the latter

  • 197 BandB // Jan 10, 2016 at 1:36 PM

    Two home wins in the next two games and the general sense that we are already too good to go down will re-assert itself.
    The club may be waiting to see how things go this week.

  • 198 John Tudor // Jan 10, 2016 at 1:41 PM

    irrespective of those results we are sadly lacking in quality thru the spine and are found out too easily with no plan bcd or x

  • 199 SPRINGY // Jan 10, 2016 at 1:42 PM

    i said back in in early december that the games from then till the transfer window were so important to future transfers and therefore the rest of the season as being out of the bottom three and looking like we were starting to turn things round would amke it so much easier to get players in….but there were a lot on believed the players would come reguardless….we are not known as a big club to players when your fighting relegation…and some will say we got gini but that was the summer when its a clean slate and you can sell a vision of success,what u want to achieve to players….not when your struggling

  • 200 John Tudor // Jan 10, 2016 at 1:43 PM

    going back to players doing it in the lower leagues how many goals have oxford scored against PL opposition

  • 201 ronaldo aarons // Jan 10, 2016 at 1:44 PM

    Weren’t we linked to this kemar player for Oxford in the summer?

  • 202 firebug666 // Jan 10, 2016 at 1:44 PM

    Ron Knee

    I imagine so, as it was from NUFC TV, Did Hola work for you?

  • 203 BandB // Jan 10, 2016 at 1:45 PM

    Two wins will replace the two about to drop off the current form table, where we are 14th at present, though we are below some of our relegation rivals. Man Utd are one of the teams below us.

  • 204 Ron Knee // Jan 10, 2016 at 1:47 PM


    Yes. Watched football highlights on the Beeb last night.

  • 205 SPRINGY // Jan 10, 2016 at 1:48 PM

    whats the crack with hola?

  • 206 firebug666 // Jan 10, 2016 at 1:53 PM

    Ron Knee

    Brilliant mate, I use it a lot having a Turkish missus.

    We need a striker to come in and not only score goals for us but help Mitrovic and Perez grow, somebody who will assist them thus building their confidence, we need goals from all our strikers.

    Remy would be good on loan, and help take some of the pressure off our young lads.

  • 207 John Tudor // Jan 10, 2016 at 1:55 PM

    well done oxford

  • 208 firebug666 // Jan 10, 2016 at 1:56 PM


    Hola is an app I use on Google Chrome that allows the user to change their web location.

    Example: If a program is being broadcast from over seas and you get that annoying message not available in your country, you simply use Hola to change you location to the country of origin.

  • 209 SPRINGY // Jan 10, 2016 at 1:59 PM

    cheers mate…just wondering!lol

  • 210 belgrade fan // Jan 10, 2016 at 2:00 PM

    If we pay money players will come. when we signed Mbiwa, Debuchy, Sissoko, all French repress, we were in same position. Also, some players on loan like Remy, or some players from Championship like Austin or Fer are players we can sign. Add Enrique and Shelvey and one winger and we r fine

  • 211 Tsunki // Jan 10, 2016 at 2:01 PM

    We can only sit back and wait to see how Mr Ashleys policy is revealed at the end of this transfer window. The blame stops at his door as he said. Perhaps fans might decide it’s time to give that door a little knock rather than pumping money into his business, if this window reveals what many suspect about the cynical use of his NUFC vehicle.

  • 212 John Tudor // Jan 10, 2016 at 2:04 PM

    a little knock it should be kicked down

  • 213 Rotonda heights // Jan 10, 2016 at 2:05 PM


    as a self proclaimed intellectual can’t you do better than calling someone who doesn’t share your views a mackem

  • 214 firebug666 // Jan 10, 2016 at 2:10 PM

    I think the club will actively try to bring in some players, going for player like Lacazette who they know will not come regardless of the bid they make, makes them look like they tried to bring in some quality.

    The reality is none of those players will want to come to a team in a relegation battle, some would refuse because of they way the club is run.

    We have been buying from the bargain basement for years now that all we can realistically go for are bargains.

    Going after quality players (to try and appease the fans) is one thing, but we and they know those players will not come.

    This is looking like another wasted window, but WOW, look at the balance sheet, all good here.

  • 215 John Tudor // Jan 10, 2016 at 2:11 PM

    ashley will be balancing assets against loss of pl monies

  • 216 toon kk // Jan 10, 2016 at 2:12 PM

    SD getting nicely advertised on Ranger’s game. Good old Mikey, football is such a great way to advertise.

  • 217 SPRINGY // Jan 10, 2016 at 2:12 PM

    im not convinced quality will any more we’ve struggled and looked a ridiculous excuse for a club for a while now,when they came we looked like a club slowly building a side that may challenge the top half of the table….but due to the year in year out struggle and the story of nufc players may be very weary of signing….i hope your right that players will sign if paid enough….but then again we have to pay it, which the club as this week with shelvey according to media are not willing to do

  • 218 SPRINGY // Jan 10, 2016 at 2:14 PM

    im not sure quality players will sign anymore#

  • 219 John Tudor // Jan 10, 2016 at 2:16 PM

    what we require are teams players and grafters not endowed with vast amounts of skill but brains to do the simple things well

  • 220 SPRINGY // Jan 10, 2016 at 2:16 PM

    repost due to cock up!lol
    im not convinced quality players will want to sign anymore, we’ve struggled and looked a ridiculous excuse for a club for a while now,when they came we looked like a club slowly building a side that may challenge the top half of the table….but due to the year in year out struggle and the story of nufc players may be very weary of signing….i hope your right that players will sign if paid enough….but then again we have to pay it, which the club as this week with shelvey according to media are not willing to do

  • 221 belgrade fan // Jan 10, 2016 at 2:19 PM


    not talking about players like Lacazzete, he will not come for sure. But players I mentioned would. And look this- we supposedly put a huge bid for Lacazzete, but don’t want to match Shelveys wage. Joke. We just know L will not come no matter how much we offer. Games for fans. But fans r also guilty for this, they don’t express feelings when they attend games. But started yesterday, glad to see that

  • 222 bladeuser // Jan 10, 2016 at 2:23 PM

    I help by staying away simple as that but my brother does not and was at Watford spending a lot of money and time to watch another loss so he told me our little French winger did not look interested was not looking for the ball and was a waste of space so that’s why the away fans made there feelings known
    now tell me what the F@@@ u do and there is another expletive for u
    SHEEP ? Out

  • 223 belgrade fan // Jan 10, 2016 at 2:24 PM

    That LB from Lorient, Guerrero, he would come for sure to play in EPL. But board also know that, that’s why we haven’t put a bid for him. I don’t know what need to happen fans to show how they feel, Ashley watch us like idiots.

  • 224 lesh // Jan 10, 2016 at 2:27 PM

    The Newcastle United Football Board attend a crisis meeting

  • 225 nearly // Jan 10, 2016 at 2:28 PM

    dont forget the mirror said austin was a done deal even before last season ended ,dont believe everything you read,

  • 226 jazzyp // Jan 10, 2016 at 2:29 PM

    I live Mansfield pal. If you can get to Watford in 2 he mate ya must be breaking the law.I work a lot around Leicester and that can take on average over an hour.No chance pal….no chance.
    A lot of talk Re Saivet coming in this week.I just don’t see how he is going to improve the squad !!

  • 227 firebug666 // Jan 10, 2016 at 2:30 PM

    JT @219

    Absolutely spot on, There is always a place for flair players to produce a bit of magic, but without the grafters and leaders their talents are wasted.

    This has been the case at NUFC for far to long, we just don’t have the players to take control of the game in the middle of the park and grind out a result.

    Our flair players have to track back and help out our woeful midfield and defence, we may dominate some teams but without the end product, and still end up losing the game.

    Our attacking threat knacker themselves out trying to do three jobs, Attacking the opposition goal, helping out the midfield, and getting back in defence, for the most part giving us no outlet when we do win the ball back, hence the players just lobbing it forward to the opposition back four.

    We need to dominate the midfield and allow our attackers to conserve their energy and concentrate on scoring goals, but they can hardly be expected to do that when they have to keep one eye on the opposition breaking forward and be ready to get back and defend.

  • 228 firebug666 // Jan 10, 2016 at 2:32 PM



  • 229 SPRINGY // Jan 10, 2016 at 2:35 PM

    some of my worries would be with the players you have mentioned for example…
    remy…….good if we can get him but think there will b a lot of options on the table for him…so would he want to join us.
    austin……had a fair few injuries this season and not convinced our club will pay the anymore then a few million for a player with only a few month left on his contract.
    shelvey… already mentioned club dont want to pay his wage apparently.
    fer…..would probably sign but is he good enough he was in a relegated side last year and not a lot of premier sides are kicking down the door to get him.
    enrique…..hasnt played a lot of football in last few years due to injury and lack of form so is he any better then what we have?….
    im not shitting on the players you’ve mentioned to be knob just trying to evaluate how players would/could improve our side and playing devils advocate for the club…thinking how they may think about certain players….we know players are required, and as soon as possible

  • 230 SPRINGY // Jan 10, 2016 at 2:39 PM

    i think it was him or shelvey and not willing to pay shelveys wages……looking from outside it was one or the other not both

  • 231 SUTTY1978 // Jan 10, 2016 at 2:44 PM

    It’s strange, when we had Cisse playing, everyone said “he’s crap, he’s just a poacher, we need someone that can get involved in the play and hold the ball up”.
    We now have Mitro playing who holds the ball up well and now people are crying out for someone to put the chances away.
    How about we play both of them together?
    Cisse is allegedly available for Tuesday. Perez needs to be dropped back to the bench for now I think.

  • 232 lesh // Jan 10, 2016 at 2:45 PM

    How many times have Ashley and Dipsy tried to con fans with the same old crap.

    They bid on top players knowing full well that they won’t come – either on principle or because what’s offered to them is way below what they believe they’re worth.

    They’ve had weeks to prepare the ground to bring players in on January 2nd but they’ve decided to ride the stormy seas of another relegation-threatened season in the hope that the results turn around. They haven’t and now we’re looking even more desperate for signings that the Club’s not an attractive proposition.

    If we’re relegated so be it and one person who cannot and shouldn’t be held responsible is McClaren who’s working with strikers who can’t find the net, working with inexperienced young lads when we’ve been crying out for a proven striker for years.

    Controversial I know but for me, Charnley should be relieved of his responsibility for signings now and sacked at the end of the season.

  • 233 belgrade fan // Jan 10, 2016 at 2:45 PM

    remy- if we pay I think he would come here, he was here, he needs first team, we have lot of players from France. Also not 2 meny teams r after him, mostly teams don’t do loans
    Austin- proven, very good. Again- you say we don’t want to pay
    Shelvey- we don’t want to pay
    Fer- like him very much, played with Ginj, big, strong, much better than Anita and Colback
    Enrique- agree, also not big fan of him, just mentioned him as a last solution. But much better than Dummett, so limited player. Would like Guerrero

  • 234 SPRINGY // Jan 10, 2016 at 2:48 PM

    yeah strange situation…..maybe cisse was’nt actually injured and just had a lip on with being dropped as its a very dramatic recovery from what was supposedly a lengthy lay off especially when you consider the bloke who took his place is’nt in great form in front of goal… for thought.

  • 235 John Tudor // Jan 10, 2016 at 2:49 PM

    hearsay and conjecture
    in penfold we trust

    it makes me sick

  • 236 SPRINGY // Jan 10, 2016 at 2:55 PM

    the pull of first team and french legion could pull remy but he’s proved money is his main attraction…apparently spurs have come in for him today.
    geurrero looks decent but u’ll get shouted at on here for wanting a unproven foreigner!!!lol

  • 237 SUTTY1978 // Jan 10, 2016 at 2:57 PM

    “In Penfold we trust” – get it on a T-shirt JT!

  • 238 SPRINGY // Jan 10, 2016 at 2:57 PM

    that pic of him and ashley just irratates me…as he looks clueless and he’s in charge of getting the players we need….the divvy!lol

  • 239 belgrade fan // Jan 10, 2016 at 2:59 PM


    Chelsea will not loan him to spurs and he will not go there to be a sub for Kane.
    Don’t care, lot of people here have no clue about football

  • 240 SUTTY1978 // Jan 10, 2016 at 2:59 PM

    Springy, can’t remember Cisse & Mitro being on the pitch at the same time in any game this season, maybe I’m wrong?
    Seems weird that you would never have thought of having your top two strikers on at the same time, especially given the number of games where we have been behind!

  • 241 John Tudor // Jan 10, 2016 at 2:59 PM

    the man is what he is a clueless yes man bum licker
    best stay off the streets

  • 242 belgrade fan // Jan 10, 2016 at 3:00 PM

    then give him money, we r not in position to argue about money. And he is worthy

  • 243 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 10, 2016 at 3:03 PM

    As I understand it, NUFC has the seventh highest wage bill in the EPL. Is the size of the wage bill not one measure of the size of the club’s ambition?

  • 244 Jib // Jan 10, 2016 at 3:03 PM

    toonbrother // Jan 27, 2015 at 10:07 PM


    27 toonbrother // Jan 27, 2015 at 10:08 PM

    McClaren is the true successor to SBR

    WHOOPS !!!!!

  • 245 Dennis Twice // Jan 10, 2016 at 3:04 PM

    Attack Toon attack, attack!

  • 246 toonluvva // Jan 10, 2016 at 3:09 PM

    I wonder if it has crossed either Messrs Ashley & Charnleys minds that it will take more investment to get out of the Championship than it will to remain in the Premiership.

    This whole philosophy of “No lower than 17th, no higher than 7th” has put our whole future in doubt. The longer it continues, the more we will be flirting with the drop until it eventaully comes, (May 2016?)

    Our beloved leadership is hopelessly out of their depths, and unless Mr ashley either sells up or wises up about the reality of PL football we, as a club, are going nowhere, unless you count the Championship!

  • 247 nightfa11 // Jan 10, 2016 at 3:11 PM

    Whoever we sign needs to be mentally very strong..

    1st cos we need such player

    2nd cos good players cost money..especially in january.. And considering club record is only 16 mio its very possible we’ll break it, and that signings musnt be bothered by it – musnt crack like carroll, torres, etc..

  • 248 SPRINGY // Jan 10, 2016 at 3:19 PM

    cant say i’ve seen them play together let alone start together tbh

  • 249 SPRINGY // Jan 10, 2016 at 3:20 PM

    you might be right about chelsea not leeting him go to spurs

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