Chickens Now Coming Home To Roost At Newcastle

Newcastle need to be a lot more ambitious than they have been over the last couple of years and it looks like the chickens are now coming home to roost so to speak – for the poor decisions that have been made from the top.

The other way of putting that is that you have to face the consequences of your mistakes and/or poor decisions of the past.

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It´s simply poor leadership with no accountability from the top

That´s really what´s happening at Newcastle right now and the situation is manifesting itself on the field with the team being 3rd bottom of the league and we have lost 13 games of the 23 games played in all competitions this season.

And that included yesterday´s 1-0 loss at Watford in the FA Cup third round and that´s the 6th time in nine attempts that we have gone out of the FA Cup at the first attempt since Mike Ashley bought the club in the summer of 2007.

It was even more significant this season because one of Newcastle´s stated goals is to win a cup this season – the other being to finish in the top eight in the Premier League.

An inability to consistently strengthen the squad based presumably on wanting to save money in  transfer windows is one problem Newcastle have had.

Another is the club have made some poor transfer deals over the last few years and often just will not spend the necessary money to get hood p;layers in.

That didn´t  happen last summer, but the past has caught up with us and the £52M spent last summer may have come too late.

And two poor and uninspired choices of head coach made by Managing Director Lee Charnley are why Newcastle are struggling mightily against relegation this season.

The other way of looking at the above issues is to say there is just not enough ambition or drive from those at the top to make Newcastle great again.

Aiming for top ten over the last few seasons has resulted in us fighting against relegation.

And there´s certainly no accountability at the club – because with the mistakes made heads would have rolled by now in any normal business.

In any organization poor leadership from the top always ends up in failure and Newcastle have not been effectively and successfully led from the top for a number of years now.

That´s why we are where we are at the moment and fans have to hope some changes will be made in the way the club is run – starting in this all important January transfer window.

If not then the strong likelihood has to be that we will be relegated again for the second time in seven years come May.

We really hope that doesn´t happen – it would be another almighty tragedy for the club and for some of the most loyal and committed fans in the business – if that does happen.

But it remains very possible.

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249 comments so far

  • Belfast

    Jan 10, 2016 at 8:34 AM

    Comment #1

    I completely agree regarding the Thauvin stick. Much worse offenders than him in the squad.

  • Ron Knee

    Jan 10, 2016 at 8:38 AM

    Comment #2

    Morning jesper


    I’ve got a horrible feeling there will be more performances like yesterday’s – team played well but failed to convert chances.

    Last season we were very lucky to avoid relegation, but this season I fear we will go down, despite playing better. Wheel of fortune.

  • Shot Bru

    Jan 10, 2016 at 8:40 AM

    Comment #3

    Geordieboy from the last thread.

    The away fans having a go at one of our own players is an indication that the club has major problems.

    Any successful club stick together and support each other no matter what, and that includes the fans.

    If the away fans are restless, it is indicative of the mess we are in.

  • OneAlanShearer

    Jan 10, 2016 at 8:44 AM

    Comment #4

    4 to 6 players keep us up. Invest in top end players.

    Keeping us up and investing in top quality will show ambition.

    Right now Ashley PR guy should be telling him turning his businesses around is going to be about showing actions that address the poor efforts/policies he’s made. Talk won’t do it only actions and big ones at that. A leaf has to be turned of all his businesses will suffer.

  • SUTTY1978

    Jan 10, 2016 at 8:45 AM

    Comment #5

    The thing with Thauvin is that a blind man could see that he wasn’t suited and wasn’t good enough to play in the Premier League, the fact that he was sooo much monry was the real kicker. Ok take a punt on the lad if he was free or a couple of million but that £13m could have been spent to strengthen areas of the team that really needed it rather than fuel Carr’s obsession with French fancies.

    If that £13m had been spent on a CB or a decent CM we would have more points on the board than we do at the moment.

  • sparky55

    Jan 10, 2016 at 8:45 AM

    Comment #6

    You can tell just by looking at Charnley he’s way out of his depth and hasn’t got the necessary tools in his locker to become anywhere near as astute as is required to carry out the duties of his role to any degree of competence.

    Ashley will say no-one gets paid more than ‘x’ and we’ll not pay more than ‘y’ in transfer fees but can you just imagine the agents of any player getting interest from Newcastle United…a club in the bottom three who are openly desperate for new blood and a club that are also desperate to avoid the drop so to enjoy the fruits of the new Sky Deal

    The agent just thinks of a number and doubles it because all the agents will know every club in the bottom half of the league will pay over the odds this year just to make sure they avoid the drop so are then part of the new sky deal.

    Its a gold rush for agents of average players, especially those with premiership experience and those of foreign players with a low number of international caps wanting a move to the premiership to milk the cash cow while they can.

    In other words Charley hasn’t got a cat in hells chance of bringing anyone decent in within fat lads budget guidelines and he certainly
    wont have the balls to go back to him and ask for more.

    Each Agent will so ‘no’ at least 5 times to approaches from Charmless at which point Charmless will push Maclaren out in front of the cameras to say we couldn’t quite get them over the line but it they were open and honest they should just say we weren’t prepared to pay what they all demanded in an inflated market.

    We’ll be outbid for everyone…we might get one or two but they won’t be the players that will make the immediate impact we need to stay up.

    We are royally fcuked and have been for years…it’s just coming home to roost this season that’s all…and to be honest we’ve been lucky to survive the last two seasons so it’s certainly been coming.

    Championship here we come…not that any championship teams will be worried because we won’t be competitive at all next year once all but Dummett and Elliot from the 1st team leave.

    Don’t you just love being a toon supporter with the 2nd worst owner in the land.

  • sing in the corner

    Jan 10, 2016 at 8:49 AM

    Comment #7

    Know what you mean but the performances are not as bad as the results so hope remains, for me. People are finding that point of view annoying but I’d rather have some decent performances and bad results than bad performances AND bad results… At least it’s something to work with!

  • expatmag

    Jan 10, 2016 at 8:50 AM

    Comment #8

    For Gods sake, we are totally fcuked. I gave never in all my born days seen such an inept and inane effort at business management from SO CALLED professionals as this mob.

    Let us just remind ourselves that since the summer, they have spent 50 million pounds on untried foreign youthful imports with no premiership experience. Thauvin was a joke in France, an even bigger joke here. Mitrovic appears to be nothing more than a sluggish thug with little or no pace and movement. Wijnaldum started well but has faded badly and in my opinion, is out of his depth. Mbemba is our only real shining light.

    The fact we are offering Sissoko a new and improved contract for one thing only and that was driving his value up is amateurish and demeaning and if I was Sissoko, I would be telling him where to stuff it.

    If the papers are to be believed, and the amounts of money we are allegedly offering for the likes of Koulibaly Gabbiadini, Lacazette etc smacks of a combination of desperation and unrealism because no decent player in their right mind would want to sign for us

    Get used to it lads. The current bottom three will be relegated at the end of the season and to be honest, it is no more than we deserve under this current lot of tosspots

    I feel sorry for you guys with season tickets (obviously excluding Blackley who is lying about his) who have to put up with this shit week in, week out.

  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 10, 2016 at 8:52 AM

    Comment #9

    I don’t think the money we spend is the issue its always been how and when we spend money.

    When things are going well we don’t buy, one year we only signed a single loan player all season with no transfers.

    We buy players who may become more valuable instead of players for positions we need.

    The league table does lie. If you are a club like us, sunderland or villa who try nothing more than doing the bare minimum to survive then you get what you deserve. Plenty other clubs above us have tried to improve, doesn’t need to be big money buys but they buy players for the positions they need and try to improve the team.

    With the premier league being so financially rewarding a lot of clubs are spending more but also ensuring they get the most out of their money by having bettee staff running the show.

  • sparky55

    Jan 10, 2016 at 8:53 AM

    Comment #10

    next home game every fan needs to stand up half way through the first half and coletively sing “YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU’RE DOING …YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU’RE DOING…YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU’RE DOING”

    It worked to get Fat Sam fired so lets hope it can work again

  • sparky55

    Jan 10, 2016 at 8:54 AM

    Comment #11


  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 10, 2016 at 8:55 AM

    Comment #12


    I just don’t understand Ashley. He’s clearly not an idiot.

    Why on earth he doesn’t hire an experienced man to run the club I have no idea. Even if you pay the man 5 million a year he could make sure we spend the money we do wisely, could still operate under similar constraints but just use the money better.

  • stan anderson

    Jan 10, 2016 at 8:55 AM

    Comment #13

    Surely the loyal fans who spend a lot of money following the Toon through thick and thin,have the right to point blame at who they see fit.
    These fans dont earn a fraction of the money these Prima Donnas get paid,i refuse to say earn.
    It is their life to support the Toon and they must be well and truly sick of the shite they watch most weeks,not to mention results,since the fat slug took over our club.
    I stopped going some time ago and have no wish to go back while this shambles continues.
    Manu will probably be a false dawn,as we will sneak a win against them and all will be forgotten by the vast majority of fans.
    We need to go back to ground zero with the club and maybe suffer a couple of relegations alon the way.
    If this is what it takes for the slug to go,then so be it.
    The fans will still be there.
    Ashley and his Nobheads OOT

  • stan anderson

    Jan 10, 2016 at 9:01 AM

    Comment #14

    Thauvin showed what he is when he showed up wearing the Tuxedo.
    So and yea shall reap young man.
    Most of the fans remember this when they choose who to ridicule for poor performances.

  • sparky55

    Jan 10, 2016 at 9:02 AM

    Comment #15


    Clearly he is!

  • hibbitt

    Jan 10, 2016 at 9:03 AM

    Comment #16

    Mclown is puppet happy to do ashleys dirty work for his thirty pieces of silver very disappointed in Mc never thought he would be a world beater but honestly thought he was a honorable man who would do his best how wrong was i just another yes man only in for himself

  • The next Mike Williamson

    Jan 10, 2016 at 9:15 AM

    Comment #18

    I think Carr does alright compared to some chief scouts. Although the players he gets are usually fairly well known, he does unearth a few like Perez. But paying 13m for Thauvin was ridiculous, especially when Leicester have just got Demari Gray for under £4m and Byram will cost about the same and they’ll be twice the player of Thauvin. Carr needs to get out of France, there’s not much left there. Germany and the Championship should be where we are looking.

  • sparky55

    Jan 10, 2016 at 9:17 AM

    Comment #19

    hahaha…good old chronicle….another story about absolutely nothing.

    Another 7 days and over half the window will be gone with not a sniff of any significance in the air.

    Our management really are top notch aren’t they.

  • toonbrother

    Jan 10, 2016 at 9:18 AM

    Comment #20

    If we can get Koulibaly over the line and relegate Colocinni to the dustbin of history our problems will be solved!
    Please bring him in!
    Tall , Strong centre half is what we need

  • catchy in norway

    Jan 10, 2016 at 9:24 AM

    Comment #21

    why would relegation be a bad thing? it will not happen, but it would not bother me if we were, id still be a fan

  • hibbitt

    Jan 10, 2016 at 9:24 AM

    Comment #22

    toonbrother i wish it was that simple we have major problems in all departments though i do think it would be a good start……………someone said that colo is injured is that right ??

  • sparky55

    Jan 10, 2016 at 9:24 AM

    Comment #23

    hahahahaha..25 million euros for someone who’s worth no more than half that…the worlds gone mad and we’re gonna pay big style for unknowns with no premiership experience to join the sinking ship.

    Thauvin at £14 million will look cheap by the end of this window

  • AncientC

    Jan 10, 2016 at 9:26 AM

    Comment #24

    The Thauvin signing has Ashley roulette gambling written all over it. Cabella was cashed in, plus extra chips to double down and win back the losses spent on buying Cabella in the first place.

    There is no doubt in my mind that if Cabella didn’t go the other say, Thauvin would not have signed whatsoever.

    Never have I seen such a poorly thought out transfer deal.

  • catchy in norway

    Jan 10, 2016 at 9:29 AM

    Comment #25

    The next Mike Williamson..

    no player sets his price tag, the clubs do, and your argument is just plain stupid, Riyad Mahrez cost about 350K, wow why dont all plays cost this much ?

  • nufc 11

    Jan 10, 2016 at 9:30 AM

    Comment #26

    Burnley played very well in the pl last season just couldn’t win games and went down looking the same for us I’m afraid.

  • catchy in norway

    Jan 10, 2016 at 9:30 AM

    Comment #27

    who new January was coming, go figure

  • spitfire_

    Jan 10, 2016 at 9:30 AM

    Comment #28

    The most important thing is not how many money you’ll spend, but the way you’ll spend it. Man Utd and Leicester are the best example from the both sides. Man Utd spend 250 mill for this crap, while Leicester with just 20 mill invest, from rock bottom club, now they’re in the CL spots. And that’s for less than a year. So let’s McClaren keep tell us that we must be patient.

    That’s why I don’t care how much we will spend. Spend another 50 mill, spend just 5 mill… not a difference at all, as long as our decision makers are morons and our transfer policy isn’t working at all. You can give half a billion to spend, but if you give them to a moron, prepare to laugh. The same if if you decide to buy the best, but for head coach you have a moron.

    And about our transfer policy. Even at the summer there was questions about how huge risk took Newcastle with Thauvin and Mitrovic, and now it’s obvious the answer of the question “was the huge risk justified”. And for a club with very tight budget, we’ve spend a huge amount of money for wrong players. The transfer policy didn’t change a bit in the past 9 years, despite the many failures, so it won’t change in the next summer, even if Mitrovic and Thauvin didn’t rise up massively their game.

    And why you’ll bring a lot of players from the continent, the structure of your club is continental style but meanwhile you refuse to hire a manager from the continent, and again you decide to hired a english dinosaur, who have difficulties to face the facts… AGAIN.

    The change is a must, but sadly, probably it will came when everything is too late… after our second relegation. Because the lessons isn’t learned, and soon or later, we will relegate again. Maybe it will be next summer, maybe not, but with the stubbornness of the owner, nothing good will came, or something will be changed.

    Same old, same old.

  • JamesToon

    Jan 10, 2016 at 9:33 AM

    Comment #29

    Mirror saying we’re bulking at shelvey’s transfer and wage demands so we will get Saivet instead…FFS HAVE WE NOT LEARNT FROM OUR PROBLEMS??? THIS IS WHY WE ARE GOING DOWN

  • optimistic prime

    Jan 10, 2016 at 9:34 AM

    Comment #30

    What was said in the chants.

    I listened to the match on radio and the commentator mentioned them, haven’t had time to read all blog, quite busy ATM having a quick catch up whilst I’ve got my nose bag on.

  • Shot Bru

    Jan 10, 2016 at 9:40 AM

    Comment #31

    Optimistic prime

    We’re sh*t and we know we are!!

  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 10, 2016 at 9:47 AM

    Comment #32

    Good report over at, as always

  • optimistic prime

    Jan 10, 2016 at 9:50 AM

    Comment #33


    Short brew

    They don’t like the truth then

  • Shot Bru

    Jan 10, 2016 at 9:56 AM

    Comment #34


    No, and they wanted their money back!

  • toonbrother

    Jan 10, 2016 at 9:58 AM

    Comment #35

    colo isnt injured
    he was taken off as a precaution

  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Jan 10, 2016 at 9:58 AM

    Comment #36

    Spitfire…it’s also about who you have to overlook that investment regardless of how big it is…

    …our management is not up to scratch!

    It’s also about having a system in place where there’s a direct connection between what the manager needs, what’s being scouted and who you enter negotiations with.

    Something here is definitely not right!

    Morning Ron…

  • Belfast

    Jan 10, 2016 at 9:59 AM

    Comment #37

    Did the 25 million euros defender not have a 6.8 million release clause a few days ago? Maybe that was somebody else.

    Shelveys wage demands are probably just what he could easily earn elsewhere and not really that big wages in today’s climate.

    They could get a French player on half those wages though so they’d rather sign the French bloke.

  • optimistic prime

    Jan 10, 2016 at 10:05 AM

    Comment #38

    We’re over 8 years into a 5yr plan so when Ashley came out with “we’ll make our own luck” I decided not to hold my breath.

    It’s a shame some fans have turned on the team, there’s one man to blame for where the club finds itself. I can’t blame the fans, they have to vent at someone, I’d rather they called some of the useless gits on the pitch than went home and gave their bairns grief or kicked the dog.

    Ashley has us here by design and I can’t see him ripping up his master plan now.
    He’s got away with it for 2 years why not 3, and he has Steeve now not Carver.


  • catchy in norway

    Jan 10, 2016 at 10:05 AM

    Comment #39

    some things i just dont get, how can people say we are shyt?,, the fact is we play good football now, we have stopped conceding loads of goals, all we need to do is add a few goals to the team and we would be a solid Prem team,, we do create chances ,, and good ones at that, confidence is our teams biggest problem

  • Rotonda heights

    Jan 10, 2016 at 10:09 AM

    Comment #40

    The chickens are indeed coming home to roost.
    Is it really a surprise when Ashley has appointed people like JFK twice, Wise, Llambias, AP, JC, SM, Carr, Charnley etc, drove out KK and made Wonga the tackiest of all sponsors, just to name a few major disasters.

    I would love to see SD crash and force Ash to sell us even if it meant relegation.

    Ash’s policies have backfired spectacularly ending up in eventually paying way over the odds on people like Cabella, Riviere, Mitro and Thauvin and now offering ridiculous amounts for Lacazette and Koubilaly.

    The horse has bolted!!!

    If the idea is to scout cheaply and save vast fortunes why aren’t we getting people before they cost millions. Perez is really a stand alone success as we flogged off Abeid and kemen for peanuts.

    Scout, manager, MD, owner are all a mish mash of failure and unjustified over promotion .

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