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Don´t Blame This Youngster For Newcastle´s Huge Problems

8:02 am, Sunday, January 10th, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 20 Comments

It wasn´t really too surprising towards the end of the game yesterday at Watford and Newcastle losing 1-0,  that the traveling fans’ frustrations just boiled over and they started to chant a number of things.

“We want our money back” and “We want Newcastle back” were two of the chants as Newcastle seem to have plunged to the depths over the last couple of years and particularly in the last twelve months.

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Florian Thauvin – at Watford yesterday

And one of the chants was specifically directed at young Frenchman Florian Thauvin, who had been brought on as  a second half substitute for the impressive Kevin Mbabu.

“You’re not fit to wear the shirt” was the chant directed at the 22 year-old who Graham Carr brought in last summer even after Florian had a very poor prior season at Marseille.

But that didn´t stop Carr and Newcastle from paying top dollar and the Marseille asking fee of £13M for him.

Steve McClaren was not part of that deal and in fact all the players brought in last summer were the choice of Graham Carr.

After the game yesterday Steve McClaren was asked about the chants directed towards the young French winger:

“I don’t know. I really don’t know.”

“He’s a young kid who’s just coming in, he’s got to adapt to this kind of thing and we’re certainly behind the scenes supporting him.”

We didn´t think the transfer of Thauvin was a particularly good one, but we still want the lad to be a success and he´s obviously a very good technical player who´s struggling at Newcastle as he tries to adapt in England.

It´s not Thauvin´s fault that Newcastle spent £13M for him and it´s not his fault that Newcastle are in another mess now.

Thauvin is not the problem – it´s the decisions made by those at the top who run the club who are ultimately responsible for the mess.

The traveling fans must have been extremely frustrated towards the end of the game yesterday but the big problems Newcastle have now are not Thauvin´s fault.

He seems to be doing the best he can in what for a young lad in  a new country must be very difficult.

Let´s try to support Steve McClaren and the players on the field as difficult as that is sometimes – especially after the debacle we went through last season.

We have to hope that those running Newcastle come tho their senses rather quickly this month and sign the necessary players we need – or we could be relegated in May.

Plain and simple.

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20 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Bambams // Jan 10, 2016 at 8:13 AM

    I think our huge problem will be attracting the right players. It’s well publicised we are a badly run club and merely used by most players as a stepping stone.
    So unless our targets are happy to come for a year or two….
    We are never going to be able to build a team long term

  • 2 geordieboy83 // Jan 10, 2016 at 8:13 AM

    Scapegoating a very young man who has moved to the most demanding league in the world, in a team bereft of confidence, clever move lads and lasses. The lad has looked very decent his last few appearances with many asking for him to be in the starting 11. The lad has ruffled no feathers, doesn’t complain, always thankful to the fans on social media. Give him a chance fcuk sake. I can think of a hell of a lot more players than him that deserve to be singled out. If he ain’t good enough that’s one thing but it’s clear there’s a talent in there and should be encouraged? The way we idolised hba for being a selfish arrogant prick we should try and encourage a young kid, who so far hasn’t done a lot wrong. Ducking pathetic

  • 3 sing in the corner // Jan 10, 2016 at 8:15 AM

    If it’s true it’s bad form from the fans at the game in my opinion. Everybody’s hacked off but the confidence is brittle enough without hammering young no who haven’t really had a fair crack yet. Thauvin has a lot to do to impress yet of course. Again, I can only surmise the match day fans must’ve seen something in his individual performance / behaviour that we didn’t to cause those chants.

  • 4 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 10, 2016 at 8:16 AM

    Ed…our problems are not something you can cure with a signing or two!

    …you’ll need need management from a start and you’ll need to dismantle that joke of a board!

  • 5 sing in the corner // Jan 10, 2016 at 8:16 AM

    * young no = young uns

  • 6 geordieboy83 // Jan 10, 2016 at 8:17 AM

    This bull crap of he gets paid x amount it’s his job blah blah blah, in my job if I was trying my best in the very limited chances I had to impress, then being shoved to the back again, in a company that was failing miserably but the customers singled me out id tell them to get fcuked to be quite frank.

  • 7 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 10, 2016 at 8:20 AM

    *change of management

  • 8 geordieboy83 // Jan 10, 2016 at 8:25 AM


    Morning mate, granted smac ain’t the answer so far but honestly who would you get to replace him?

  • 9 Shot Bru // Jan 10, 2016 at 8:25 AM

    I agree it’s a shame for Thauvin that he has been targeted. Maybe it’s not entirely aimed at him, more so at the terrible transfer policy. Unfortunately he has become the scapegoat for our woeful use of money in the summer transfer market.

    Most fans were bemused at his signing when the money could have been spent better elsewhere.

    The travelling fans are the heart of the club. Their abuse of Thauvin is maybe a dig at the board rather than Thauvin himself.

    The away fans have been voicing their displeasure at Wally and his team for a few games now.

  • 10 geordieboy83 // Jan 10, 2016 at 8:27 AM

    Shot bru

    I’m not digging the away fans they’re the best in the world imo just think this is really poor form from them targeting somebody who hasn’t really played enough to be the sole reason for our crap season so far. And it certainly won’t do him any good.

  • 11 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 10, 2016 at 8:32 AM

    The fans should be taking their anger out at ACC the Ashley, Carr, Charmless triumphant .
    Ashley – For his master-plan not spending over the years on players
    Carr – For bringing in to many lightweight players from the continent
    Charmless – for ?? what he does absolute nothing.

    If we had brought in a proven premiership goalscorer at the beginning of the season ie someone like Defoe down the road who can put the ball in the net – we would be in the next round of the cup and at least 10 points better off.

    I think we are playing decent football most games but HOW many easy chances we have missed this season.

    If the powers that be cannot see that if we do not buy a goalscore then it looks like curtains for us!!!!!!

  • 12 Ichabodkrane // Jan 10, 2016 at 8:42 AM

    We rave on about being the best support!! Why not actually try it. I remember singing throughout games virtually non stop but now it’s very fickle. Let’s just get behind what we have got and support them positively for 90 mins. I am and always will be a newcastle united fan but yesterday at Watford I actually felt ashamed to be there. Not because of the team as I thought they tried and I’m happy with that, but the fans chants which made me leave with my 9 year old son. We try and pass this legacy of following our team onto our children and how proud we are at being part of it.

    Let’s be proud, follow our team and support them through the good and bad times. Maybe if we do that then the players will be proud to pull the shirt on for us.

    Just a thought

  • 13 sparky55 // Jan 10, 2016 at 8:45 AM

    You can tell just by looking at Charnley he’s way out of his depth and hasn’t got the necessary tools in his locker to become anywhere near as astute as is required to carry out the duties of his role to any degree of competence.

    Ashley will say no-one gets paid more than ‘x’ and we’ll not pay more than ‘y’ in transfer fees but can you just imagine the agents of any player getting interest from Newcastle United…a club in the bottom three who are openly desperate for new blood and a club that are also desperate to avoid the drop so to enjoy the fruits of the new Sky Deal

    The agent just thinks of a number and doubles it because all the agents will know every club in the bottom half of the league will pay over the odds this year just to make sure they avoid the drop so are then part of the new sky deal.

    Its a gold rush for agents of average players, especially those with premiership experience and those of foreign players with a low number of international caps wanting a move to the premiership to milk the cash cow while they can.

    In other words Charley hasn’t got a cat in hells chance of bringing anyone decent in within fat lads budget guidelines and he certainly
    wont have the balls to go back to him and ask for more.

    Each Agent will so ‘no’ at least 5 times to approaches from Charmless at which point Charmless will push Maclaren out in front of the cameras to say we couldn’t quite get them over the line but it they were open and honest they should just say we weren’t prepared to pay what they all demanded in an inflated market.

    We’ll be outbid for everyone…we might get one or two but they won’t be the players that will make the immediate impact we need to stay up.

    We are royally fcuked and have been for years…it’s just coming home to roost this season that’s all…and to be honest we’ve been lucky to survive the last two seasons so it’s certainly been coming.

    Championship here we come…not that any championship teams will be worried because we won’t be competitive at all next year once all but Dummett and Elliot from the 1st team leave.

    Don’t you just love being a toon supporter with the 2nd worst owner in the land.

  • 14 catchy in norway // Jan 10, 2016 at 8:52 AM

    Wow, he wants the worst on the pitch, from what I heard on the radio their were far worse players, and let’s face it Gini made the mistake, and while I do like Gini as a player , we don’t really get much out of him, only when he scores , in fact HBA had his nuts chopped of by most fans for doing more than Gini, HBA had a better goal scoring and assist ratio than Gini,

    Florian hasn’t been given a real chance by the fans or by Shteve, sad

  • 15 goalseeker // Jan 10, 2016 at 9:39 AM

    “We are all angry and frustrated!!!” Not as much as the fans. How can this squad of directors not see that we need urgently a proven Premier League striker, we do not need an Italian or French cast off or a dynamic prospect from Holland we need someone who wants to put the ball into the back of the net not someone who wanders around outside the penalty area and looks as if he does not care about the club.
    Unfortunately the way the game is today players simply tell their agents to find another club and higher wages because it is in the interest of both the player and the agent to keep moving. Will we ever again see the players who stay at a club for 10 years or more and are proud to pull on the shirt of that club or are we destined to watch mercenaries do as little as possible knowing that they will pick up their cheque each month.
    We should go back to the days of an above average basic pay with a win bonus and half a bonus for a draw. I do not object to players earning thousands a week but it should be a meritocracy play well and you earn more. And McClaren must learn it is not boxing you do not win on points because you play well you win because you score more goals than the opposition, remember Keegan “I do not care if they score five as long as we score six”. Not a bad philosophy.

  • 16 yorkymag // Jan 10, 2016 at 9:51 AM

    Look in my opinion and I travel hundreds of mikes watching most games I think it is fair to say the morale of the traveling fans us as low as I have felt ,it’s not about where we are in the league it’s much more because there is simply no hope
    The young French lad has been given some stick and it may be unfair
    But he has not exactly worked at building a relationship with the fans turning up in a tux ,waving his arms at the gallowgate to make more noise ,and the list goes on .
    It may be tough on him but he is paid 50 plus thousand a week ok not his fault but he has not delivered full stop
    You reap what you sow in life and he has in my view again got what he deserves
    Anyone who shows the arrogance he has needs to deliver and he simply hasnt

  • 17 Graymee... // Jan 10, 2016 at 10:11 AM

    The guy is lost at the moment, and ‘Toon’ fans have always vented at a scape goat, going back to Warren Barton when we almost won gone title.
    Only can Ashley resolve this. Funds for striker , proven at premiership level or higher.

  • 18 stuart no9 // Jan 10, 2016 at 12:57 PM

    Again , we as fanS IMO are the problem – the root problem . No not because of the teams inept players and managers- well not to an extent any way , we the fans cant be blamed for misses that go on in front of goal , we as fans cant be blamed for the weekly sitter micho misses , we azs fans cant be blamed for the inept manager who was brought in after being sacked from every club he manages IN LOWER LEAGUES, no we are not to blame for any of that – well, not directly anyway , what the fans ARE to blame for is ALLOWING our owner to commit the crimes agasnst NUFC without even a whimper , They ( the 52000 followers) have repeatedly ignored his henius concept on how a football club should be ran, they have constantly believed his jibberish bile that flows fron his ugly frame to to instill into his deciples that he really has NUFC at heart.- give me your money and WE WILL be winners , the only time we will be winners is when he is gone from our club for good, jeez, cant you see that ??? is it so difficult to get that ??. 9 years – 9 pathetic years of nothing , misery , lies , and YOU still dont get it . wow, the mind really does boggle, AND-AND YOU had the audacity to blame a young kid yesterday telling him that he wasnt fit to wear the shirt -you lot are a disgrace to NUFC , I hopr you are proud of ypurselves this morning . thickos. newcastle fans ???? do me a favour

  • 19 monty // Jan 10, 2016 at 1:25 PM

    I’m bewildered how there can be a vote on the best player as there simply was not one on the field. As for blaming Thauvin it’s not his fault it’s the clubs, until we stop importing Johnny Foreigner and buy some home grown boot them into next week players we are going nowhere but downwards.

  • 20 dannitoon // Jan 10, 2016 at 2:51 PM

    Totally agree the poor lad needs time.. ffs we are in a poor position.. not playing that bad.. (but better than anytime last season)..with luck we would’ve won our last four.. I’m still believing we will pull clear comfortably.. get shelvey n boney in.. put 4 past man u then upwards… ZZZZZZZzzzzzz

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