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Newcastle Close To Second Deal – Favorites To Sign Englishman

5:18 pm, Monday, January 11th, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 184 Comments

Henri Saivet is on Tyneside right now and taking a medical and if everything goes OK with that – it looks like the 9 times capped Senegal International versatile midfielder will be a Newcastle player – for a fee of around £4.5M.

And more good news in the Mail today that Newcastle now look favorites to beat Crystal Palace and Alan Pardew to the £12M acquisition of Swansea’s English International midfielder Jonjo Shelvey.

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Jonjo Shelvey – said to prefer Newcastle

These are the two players the Chronicle mentioned this morning that Newcastle will try to sign this week – and it looks like we may even do that – but let’s not get too far ahead of ourselves.

It seems the good news is that Shelvey likes the idea of working with Steve McClaren at Newcastle – so that’s good to hear – and he’s been told he will given a free role in central midfield and help provide the creative spark for Newcastle.

So he will get plenty of playing time and an opportunity to perhaps even make the England squad for the Euro 2016 final in France in June.

Newcastle will offer Shelvey a deal that will be four and a half years – through to June of 2020, and Shelvey has already made the decision that it is the right time to move on from Swansea, where he’s been since the summer of 2013 when he signed on from Liverpool for £5M.

Shelvey seems to have had a change of heart and now believes Steve McClaren will give him more of a chance to express himself and have a more creative role at Newcastle than he would have got with Alan Pardew.

It had been reported Shelvey would like to return to London but maybe that was just the London press expressing their own views.

Pardew did give Jonjo his football debut when he was manager of Charlton Athletic, and the player made his debut in April 2008 against Barnsley, and became Charlton’s youngest-ever player at the age of 16 years and 59 days.

At Swansea Shelvey played 95 times for the south Wales club with 10 goals and 18 assists.

Jonjo would be an excellent addition to the Newcastle midfield and would provide some creativity – plus he hasn’t got too bad a shot either.

Comments welcome.



Tags: Newcastle News · Recruitment · Transfer News and Rumours · Transfer Target




184 responses so far ↓

  • 1 croftus5678 // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:23 PM

    after shelvey thats the midfield sorted now get us a bloody striker and cb please >.<

    i'd like to see a few exiting also btw !

  • 2 Graeme // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:23 PM

    Better than many we already have – what about clearing out the dross??

  • 3 TudorCrisps // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:25 PM

    elliot

    janmaat mbemba colo mbabu

    saivet

    sissy shelvey gini perrez

    mitro

    need another striker and left back

  • 4 Vask // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:25 PM

    Don’t watch much other football…

    How does Shelvey act on the pitch? Is he a leader? Does he talk to others on the pitch?

  • 5 JamesToon // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:26 PM

    bournemouth put in a £9mil bid for one of our targets Andre Carillo, fast and skilful winger that we could do with.

  • 6 Jib // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:26 PM

    Cyprus he was pure class

  • 7 hibbitt // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:26 PM

    graeme the problem with dross is finding someone to take it

  • 8 sing in the corner // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:26 PM

    How Bobby lad..good to see you back on, hope the health is heading in the right direction?
    Exciting day at the toon. Pleased with the prospect of Shelvey, have to be honest I know very little about Saiv apart from what’s doing the rounds on here. Have to say I’ll be surprised if we get both like. Our usual modus operandi would be to play both deals off against the other and get the cheapest… Cynical me… 🙂

  • 9 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:27 PM

    Saviet’s a winger.

    Raphael Guerriero is a must signing. We need a left back. Left back is priority. I’d rather us sign a left back than centre back or striker. Riviere will come good.

  • 10 JamesToon // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:27 PM

    Vask

    Shelvey i’d say is a deep lying playmaker and dictates the play. Wouldn’t say he’s a leader though, has had attitude problems, but i think he’s one of the most technically gifted central midfielders that England have got at the moment

  • 11 geordie157 // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:27 PM

    Saivet is not a dm, he’s a winger/second striker who’s converted to a midfielder but definitely not a ball winning midfielder!

    Keep tiote until the summer.

    Striker next please

  • 12 JamesToon // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:27 PM

    Kets

    What about robertson

  • 13 JamesToon // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:31 PM

    G157
    Agree mate

    Ed saying that Shelvey would prefer us to palace because he thinks he will get in the game more here and would be allowed to express himself more instead of pardew *cough long ball cough* which makes sense but I would have thought he’d prefer palace purely because they’re in London and that’s where he’s from

  • 14 Bambams // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:31 PM

    Two midfielders. ….
    We are desperate for a top striker and a commanding CB

  • 15 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:31 PM

    Not good enough. Guerriero or Willems would be good addition

  • 16 Vask // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:32 PM

    Cheers James,

    You never know, 23/24 might be a good age for him to develop a mature attitude. Fingers crossed if we get him, eh?

  • 17 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:32 PM

    Shelvey is a box to box midfielder. Marveaux and De Jong are playmakers.

  • 18 croftus5678 // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:33 PM

    @9 kets + 11 geordie

    http://www.whoscored.com/Players/34949/Show/Henri-Saivet

    hope this helps.

    most his games are dm or cm and strength’s are defensive.

  • 19 WWSBRD // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:33 PM

    Springy
    Rivi has only had a season but he was worse than Cabella who was shown the door. Marv has had chances with us though and he’s just too soft imo

  • 20 WWSBRD // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:34 PM

    Wait we can even decide where Saivet plays? Wonderful

  • 21 Vask // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:35 PM

    I still hold out hope that de Jong gets to show his worth, really like his influence on the pitch.

  • 22 SPRINGY // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:35 PM

    i would lke tiote to stay..hope he does…..as for saivets position from what ive been reading he was winger….but has playing cm for bordeaux for while and excelling apparently….but we’ll see where he starts i suppose

  • 23 fatfrank // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:35 PM

    Long time lurker, first time poster

    We need a proven striker, a fox in the box who can bounce off Mitro

    I’d go with Jordan Rhodes or Ross McCormack, who have both been banging them in for years

    And a totally left field cheapskate option for Fat Ash, but totally proven and would do a 6 month job and bang them in – Defoe

  • 24 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:36 PM

    geordie157 …could you explain that one again?

    If Saivet has been converted to a CM fram whatever position then isn’t he a CM?

    http://www.whoscored.com/Players/34949/

    I would argue that if Saivet is going to be a winger for us then clearly Carr haven’t scouted him 😉

  • 25 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:36 PM

    *from

  • 26 Vask // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:37 PM

    I’d rather see us go down than get defoe to be fair. Don’t know why, but i can’t stand him.

  • 27 Thump // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:38 PM

    So we’re bringing in two players and that’s great, but who is leaving? We have a 25 man squad… so who is leaving?

  • 28 Vask // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:39 PM

    I reckons Tiote might be aff

  • 29 croftus5678 // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:39 PM

    @22 springy

    i read the same thing !

    at a younger age he was touted as the next henry however he never progressed in the wing possition and became surplus to requirements from avg and under avg performances untill he was moved into dm/cm where he has excelled with very good motm performances in the league and europe so i read.

  • 30 toon kk // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:40 PM

    The club likes to buy mid field players they obviously think they’re versatile and can be used in any possition.

  • 31 SPRINGY // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:41 PM

    welcome fatfrank
    rhodes..maybe scores a few but not enough pace that we need…McCormack think hes would out of his depth tbh imo….defoe…he would get goals..but the club wont sign him…to old

  • 32 tomellifred360 // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:41 PM

    Is JJ Shelvey any better than we already have? I’m not sure.

  • 33 WWSBRD // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:42 PM

    Thump
    Wasn’t Bigi registered?

  • 34 SPRINGY // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:43 PM

    croftus
    exactly the same article probs…. glad you put that info on was starting to doubt if id read it mysell!!lol

  • 35 croftus5678 // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:45 PM

    @32 tomelli

    just a personal opinion but i’m kinda excited that we are after it !

    i always thought we missed the type of player he is which is an all round steven gerrard type imo.

  • 36 JamesChick // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:45 PM

    If we sign Saivet and Shelvey then surely that means we won’t sacrifice creativity by playing Gini out wide as these two could provide that, instead of having a number 10 we could play Tiote purely as a ball winner who plays it to the wingers or Saivet and Shelvey which would give us more players in the box must increase the chances of actually converting chances?

  • 37 SPRINGY // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:47 PM

    just read newcastle have 3 doubts for tomorrow…colo,thauvin and mbabu?….colback should be back

  • 38 AncientC // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:47 PM

    Shelvey will not be coming, Saivet was the cheaper option of the two.

    There is a reason why Premier League players coming in is a rarity.

  • 39 Bobbybee // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:48 PM

    Now then sing. Health ain’t been too good mate. Seems i’ve got some infection they can’t pin down which has caused me to develop osteoporosis at an early age. Since i’ve been missing my spine has fractured three times for unknown reasons. Very painful and totally debilitating. Surgery is too risky because it could paralyse me according to the specialist. Worst of all it’s causing me to miss games! Gutted. I was hoping to get to the game tomorrow but my back went again yesterday so I’m back in bed.
    From what i’ve read, this kid was a winger, but has spent this season as a CM and has been their best player but wants out. Seems he started as a striker, then switched to winger, now plays in midfield! Pretty versatile if nowt else!

  • 40 JamesToon // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:48 PM

    Tommeli

    Technically and creatively he is Miles better, did you not watch our games v Swansea where he dominated the midfield

  • 41 JamesToon // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:49 PM

    Ancient C

    Please don’t say that. We need shelvey

  • 42 SPRINGY // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:49 PM

    ancient c
    i thoought that last night…that we would only sign 1 of the 2 but tiote apparently wanting move to china we may get both

  • 43 martoon // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:50 PM

    Thump @27 – I asked that earlier and it was suggested Vukic and Bigi but although they had a squad number I’m not sure if they we named in the 25 man squad and actually now I think about it Vukic was classed as home grown so we would have to watch that as well!

  • 44 JamesToon // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:50 PM

    Soccer sauce on Twitter saying we will go for both Saivet and shelvey

  • 45 matt11_25 // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:51 PM

    I think wij will be utilized in a no10 role if both these signings go thru. Shelvey would be best PL proven player we have bought in a long time. I don’t think Colback is a starter.

  • 46 SPRINGY // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:52 PM

    bobby
    your year not exactly off to a flyer then!…hope everything gets sorted for ya ….all the best mate

  • 47 SPRINGY // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:55 PM

    dont they have a re-do of the squad numbers at the end of the window??

  • 48 AncientC // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:57 PM

    JamesToon – I could be wrong, but if you look through a list of all the previous incoming players under Ashley, it makes the likelihood of players coming from another Premier League club very low.

    Shelvey will cost the going rate in transfer fee and wages… I just cannot see it happening.

  • 49 Bambams // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:57 PM

    I would of been happy with Shelvey but cannot understand why we have signed Henri…. There again Tiote played really well against Arsenal. He hadn’t done that we’ll previous games, possibly knew he was being watched….Tiote away for £3-4 million perhaps.
    Now I know why we signed Henri

  • 50 JamesToon // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:57 PM

    January wishlist now:
    CB: Caulker/Matip/Shawcross
    LB: Guerreiro/Willems/Robertson
    CM: Shelvey
    W: Townsend/Redmond/Carillo
    CF: Gray/Remy/Berahino

  • 51 Toon-Barmy // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:58 PM

    Here is a quick review of our current squad, for anyone who still cares! Let me know if I’ve missed anyone.

    NUFC 25-Man Squad

    1. Tim Krul (HG)
    2. Rob Elliot (HG)
    3. Karl Darlow (HG)
    4. Daryl Janmaat
    5. Fabricio Coloccini
    6. Paul Dummett (HG)
    7. Steven Taylor (HG)
    8. Mike Williamson (HG)
    9. Massadio Haidara
    10. Jamaal Lascelles (HG)
    11. Curtis Good
    12. Cheick Tiote
    13. Vurnon Anita
    14. Jack Colback (HG)
    15. Moussa Sissoko
    16. Georginio Wijnaldum
    17. Siem De Jong
    18. Florian Thauvin
    19. Gabriel Obertan
    20. Yoan Gouffran
    21. Sylvain Marveaux
    22. Ayoze Perez
    23. Papiss Cisse
    24. Emmanuel Rivière
    25. Henri Saivet (Assuming we can get it “over the line”)

    Under-21 Players (Contracted & 3rd Year Scholars only)

    Alexander Mitrovic (21)
    Chancel Mbemba (21)
    Kevin Mbabu (20)
    Tom Heardman (20)
    Liam Smith (20)
    Rolando Aarons (20)
    Jamie Sterry (20)
    Lubomir Satka (20)
    Ivan Toney (19)
    Adam Laidler (19)
    Dan Barlaser (19)
    Brendan Pearson (18)
    Callum Williams (18)
    Callum Roberts (18)
    Freddie Woodman (18)

    On Loan:
    Remy Cabella
    Sammy Ameobi
    Haris Vuckic
    Shane Ferguson
    Gael Bigirimana
    Macauley Gillesphey (20)
    Alex Gilliead (19)
    Jamie Cobain (19)
    Adam Armstrong (18)
    Liam Gibson (18)
    Kyle Cameron (18)

  • 52 martoon // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:58 PM

    Actually obviously if we got Shelvey he would count as home grown. This also raises a point that we need to keep a certain number of home grown players in the squad so we might have to go for a British player!

  • 53 JamesToon // Jan 11, 2016 at 5:58 PM

    Bambams

    From what I hear Saivet is a completely different player to Tiote, more of an attacking midfielder

  • 54 angelswithdirtyfaces // Jan 11, 2016 at 6:00 PM

    I suppose that signing Saivet means that Sissoko is off to the Gooners with some of the descriptions of his playing style showing a remarkable overlap with Sissy.

  • 55 martoon // Jan 11, 2016 at 6:01 PM

    Toon-Barmy @51 – I believe you have to have 8 HG players in your squad so if we, say, sold Willo we would have to replace him with a HG player e.g. Shelvey!

  • 56 JamesToon // Jan 11, 2016 at 6:01 PM

    For those who want to know more about Saivet, have a look at this article

    http://newcastle360.com/2016/01/11/who-is-henri-saivet/

  • 57 Jib // Jan 11, 2016 at 6:03 PM

    Thump

    First Team Squad – 29 players

    I’m assumiing Iron Mike has been sold

    However four are not 21 until after Jan 31 2016 (marked *)

    Rob Elliott Tim Krul Karl Darlow
    Kevin M’Babu* Paul Dummett Daryl Janmaat Fabricio Coloccini
    Steven Taylor Jamaal Lascelles Massadio Haidara Chancel Mbemba Vurnon Anita Jack Colback Gabriel Obertan ————-Henri Saivet
    Cheick Tiote SylvainMarveauxFlorianThauvin
    ———————-Jonjo Shelvey
    Georginio Wijnaldum Moussa Sissoko Yoan Gouffran Siem De Jong Rolando Aarons* Ayoze Perez Papiss Cissé Aleksandar Mitrovic* Manu Riviere Ivan Toney*

  • 58 croftus5678 // Jan 11, 2016 at 6:05 PM

    @37 springy

    oh your kidding >.<

    i was hoping mbabu would get a run in the team ! atleast untill hairdryer is fit and ready again to play 🙁

    so who do we stick with mbemba now ? ffs even manure could score against our defence now 🙁

  • 59 AncientC // Jan 11, 2016 at 6:07 PM

    http://www.transferleague.co.uk/newcastle-united/english-football-teams/newcastle-united-transfers

    A list of the club signings over the years. There isn’t a lot of signings from Premier League clubs. There was Colback and Ba, but they were free-agents.

    On a positive note, if Shelvey is signed, it would signal a shift in recruitment policy.

  • 60 Bobbybee // Jan 11, 2016 at 6:07 PM

    Cheers springy. Not exactly ideal mate! I’ve got a disabled ST currently being wasted. If there’s anybody who is on high rate mobility, but can get around on crutches and make it onto level 4, I’d willingly let them use use it until I’m fit enough to return. Don’t want nowt for it, just rather see it used than wasted. They can get the lift up to level two, then there’s only a few steps to level 4. My seat is right at the front. They’d need to provide proof they’re on high rate mobility, but apart from that i can’t see any problem. Might even be able to get them in for the manure game tomorrow if they act quickly.

  • 61 SPRINGY // Jan 11, 2016 at 6:08 PM

    james toon
    cant see any of your cb choices comin unfortunately….koulibaly maybe very slight chance…lamine kone would be my choice available at 5m.
    any 1 or 2 of the 3 left backs are spot on.
    wingers…not keen on townsend maybe a loan,redmond maybe…sorry dont know carillo.
    strikers…..grey nar not for me remy or berahino aye if possible

  • 62 Toon-Barmy // Jan 11, 2016 at 6:09 PM

    @55

    Yes I understand that. This is just a review of the squad as it is today. Obviously it’s going to change as players come and go. I just wanted to get my head around what we actually have at the moment. From the look of it there’s a lot of work to do!

  • 63 SPRINGY // Jan 11, 2016 at 6:09 PM

    croftus
    just what ive read on news now mate…i was hoping the same

  • 64 croftus5678 // Jan 11, 2016 at 6:09 PM

    @56 james

    thats a very good post on saivet buddy.

  • 65 JamesToon // Jan 11, 2016 at 6:12 PM

    Springy
    Don’t know much about Kone or Koulibay just would like us to sign a few more domestic players or at least proven premier league players, from our transfer record evidence suggests that when we have signed more domestic based players or players that have proved they can do it in the prem (I.e ba, Remy) there have been more hits than misses compared to foreign league signings

  • 66 Big Pappa Cissé // Jan 11, 2016 at 6:14 PM

    Well, I hope this is the fist signing of many (although unlikely) as relegation is a real possibility .

    Shelvey would be a great signing IMO despite him seeming like a bit of a knob head . However we need someone with real steel in the middle of the park as Anita & Colback are pushovers in the PL .

    We still desperately need a Colo replacement and a new LB as Dummet just isn’t good enough . Also a proven PL goal scorer is a must and Austin or Berahino seem like the only options . However I do still think Mitrovic will come good .

    Team after Jan:

    —————————–Elliot——————————

    –Janmaat——M’bemba——–New CB——Willems–

    ——————-Saviet———–Shelvey——————

    —Sissoko————–Wijnaldum—————Perez—-

    ————————Austin/Berahino———————-

  • 67 Jib // Jan 11, 2016 at 6:16 PM

    Ballon d’Or live on SS1 now

  • 68 sing in the corner // Jan 11, 2016 at 6:17 PM

    Bobby
    Jeez, missing games will be as bad as the back pain for you then! Keep on stickin in and hope they can get something sorted soon.
    The down side with Saiv would be , if he hits the ground running like we pray he will, he’ll be off to ACON for 2 months when we need him most.
    Any rumours of defenders coming in??

  • 69 SPRINGY // Jan 11, 2016 at 6:18 PM

    james toon
    its the price and our current predicament that will hinder us signing domestic/premier proven players, not a lot we can do about that…..great post about saivet by the way…reading that should maybe make people give him a chance

  • 70 Jib // Jan 11, 2016 at 6:19 PM

    http://cricfree.tv/sky-sports-1-live-stream-s

  • 71 peterk3 // Jan 11, 2016 at 6:21 PM

    Shelvey’s a very good midfielder, above average and will be a good addition to our team. He has a wide range of passing and can score goals and can run a midfield with his sight and ability. Good signing if it comes off. Fingers crossed.

  • 72 matt11_25 // Jan 11, 2016 at 6:22 PM

    Just watched the video in the who is he link.. One thing that popped in my mind was finally a Cabaye replacement.. Hope he turns out

  • 73 SPRINGY // Jan 11, 2016 at 6:24 PM

    sing
    i dont think senegal qualified mate….need to check that mind

  • 74 Pootle2118 // Jan 11, 2016 at 6:27 PM

    Evening all

    Just had a quick look on one of the Sky Sports pages and according to them, Thauvin, Colback, Anita and Aarons are all doubtful for tomorrow with Obertan deffo out. That means atm, our fit midfielders are Gini, Sissoko, SDJ, Tiote,Gouffran and Marveaux. I’m hoping some of the doubts pull through cos the fit players don’t give me much confidence!

  • 75 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 11, 2016 at 6:27 PM

    Bobbybee…I sad to hear about your disability mate.

    Could you explain this to me once more. You have a disability ST in a section where the lift don’t go?

  • 76 Pootle2118 // Jan 11, 2016 at 6:29 PM

    Springy @73

    Just had a quick check and you’re right, Senegal missed out this year

  • 77 SPRINGY // Jan 11, 2016 at 6:31 PM

    pootle
    differing names on the crock list…just read colo,thauvin and mbabu doubtful but colback fit….and aarons to start!!….we’ll have to just see what the crack is the morra!lol

  • 78 SPRINGY // Jan 11, 2016 at 6:32 PM

    pootle
    was just startin to look myself!haha…cheers

  • 79 sing in the corner // Jan 11, 2016 at 6:34 PM

    Springy n pootle

    Cheers guys. Very pleased I was wrong! 🙂

  • 80 Pootle2118 // Jan 11, 2016 at 6:36 PM

    In all honesty, I wouldn’t mind seeing us play a completely different formation tomorrow. With the players we have available now, I’d try a 3-2-4-1. I think it would give us a bit more balance with the player positions I’m thinking, plus…what have we got to lose? Without new players, we need to try something different or we are gonna struggle badly.

  • 81 JamesToon // Jan 11, 2016 at 6:40 PM

    springy

    i wouldn’t say that, Demarai Gray had a release clause for £5mil but we chose thauvin instead. Cabaye proven in the prem was available for £10mil. Carr clearly sticks to the people he trusts, he could have had one of the best players in ligue 1 last season in payer for £10mil but went for one of the worst for £14mil.

    although hopefully, if shelvey signs it will be the start of a new direction

  • 82 Bobbybee // Jan 11, 2016 at 6:45 PM

    Jesper, i’ve got no kneecaps from a car crash in my youth. I get to the ground in my wheelchair, then make the rest of the journey on crutches. The lift takes me to within a few steps of my seat. It is a struggle but having been there so long i’ve got friends there and didn’t want to change. It left me unable to walk for three days, but imo worth it. Might have to change it now though and go with the rest of the wheelchair fans, because of this new problem coz it ain’t going to get any better.

  • 83 OneAlanShearer // Jan 11, 2016 at 6:47 PM

    Willems has returned from injury. Over to you Ashley.

  • 84 SPRINGY // Jan 11, 2016 at 6:50 PM

    southampton enquiring about austin….according to soccer sauce

  • 85 Pootle2118 // Jan 11, 2016 at 6:50 PM

    Team for tomorrow

    Elliott

    Colo Mbemba Mbabu/Dummett

    Tiote Sissoko

    Janmaatt De Jong Gini Perez

    Mitro

  • 86 catchy in norway // Jan 11, 2016 at 6:50 PM

    we should be signing this kid from them aswell

    Wahbi Khazri

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN0FGuOJA8U

  • 87 JamesToon // Jan 11, 2016 at 6:50 PM

    OneAlanShearer

    Get him in now

  • 88 SPRINGY // Jan 11, 2016 at 6:51 PM

    one alan shearer
    would like him here but he would’nt be at his best for along time…..fitness and sharpness would take time

  • 89 Pootle2118 // Jan 11, 2016 at 6:53 PM

    Repost
    Team for tomorrow

    —————————-Elliott

    ——–Colo——— –Mbemba——— Mbabu/Dummett

    ——————Tiote ———–Sissoko

    –Janmaatt ——De Jong—— —Gini————–Perez

    —————————–Mitro

  • 90 ronaldo aarons // Jan 11, 2016 at 6:58 PM

    Bournemouth have signed grabban for £7 million. That’s a lot.

  • 91 SPRINGY // Jan 11, 2016 at 6:59 PM

    pootle
    i think tiote is suspended mate…..check that tho

  • 92 firebug666 // Jan 11, 2016 at 7:01 PM

    SPRINGY @91

    You are correct, he picked up his suspension on Saturday.

  • 93 OneAlanShearer // Jan 11, 2016 at 7:05 PM

    Springy/james – he may make thd difference towards the end of the season. Other priorities first though. I actually think we need 2 strikers. Rotating the 4 (get rid of Riviere and make cisse 5th choice) would see us have serious ammunition to throw at teams. Plus you never know with injuries. Shelvey as well. I think redmonds price tag has probably freighted Ashley off – 15million). So get 2 of these strikers in and we are good to go and perhaps take that momentum into next season…Austin, carroll, Ben yedder, Beharino. …that with shelvey and saivet (crosses fingers he’s good) could see us putting away chances and firing ourselves up the table. Here’s hoping.

  • 94 nearly // Jan 11, 2016 at 7:05 PM

    springy@88

    he would be a great signing ,as long as he makes a full recovery it wont take long for his fitness and sharpness to return he is a natural athlete very fit lad

  • 95 SPRINGY // Jan 11, 2016 at 7:08 PM

    the chonicle reckon goofy heavily involved in training so i would’nt be shocked if hes starting the morra

  • 96 Bobbybee // Jan 11, 2016 at 7:09 PM

    Both Austin and Berahino aren’t ready to make the impact we need. Austin is injured and Bera is clearly unfit. We need players who can make a difference immediately before it’s too late. Who that might be is anybody’s guess.

  • 97 JamesToon // Jan 11, 2016 at 7:10 PM

    Springy

    Jeez that would be our worst nightmare

  • 98 Pootle2118 // Jan 11, 2016 at 7:10 PM

    Hopefully Colback will be fit and if so, replace Tiote with Colback. Does anyone else think this formation may be worth a try?

  • 99 firebug666 // Jan 11, 2016 at 7:12 PM

    Pootle2118

    Jack Colback was training today, so could be back in contention.

  • 100 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 11, 2016 at 7:13 PM

    Have I got this right? We need a top strtiker and a top CB as a priority. The latest news is that we’re signing two midfielders. I know some bloggers have been saying midfield is the priority. Really?

  • 101 SPRINGY // Jan 11, 2016 at 7:14 PM

    one alan/nearly
    looks a quality player and tbh i often wondered if theres already a deal or agreement in place to sign him once fit or in the summer….just the way he’s been around the club a few times and the ”off to the future” comment when visiting st james…….just my opinion….not heard anything or in the know or out!!

  • 102 JackButler // Jan 11, 2016 at 7:15 PM

    Any chance of anyone giving an unbiased view on Saivet?

    Don’t know much about the lad tbh

  • 103 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 11, 2016 at 7:17 PM

    Of course quality strikers and CB’s don’t come cheap, especially not at this time of a year when you’re bent over a barrel with your pants down.

  • 104 SPRINGY // Jan 11, 2016 at 7:18 PM

    pootle
    i put a team up earlier i would like to try but your team seems solid enough

  • 105 Bobbybee // Jan 11, 2016 at 7:18 PM

    Jack, go to the link posted @56 by james toon. Sounds impressive.

  • 106 SPRINGY // Jan 11, 2016 at 7:19 PM

    jack butler
    james toon put a review on earlier he found on a site..have a look…good read actually

  • 107 SPRINGY // Jan 11, 2016 at 7:21 PM

    second time ive been beaten to the draw!!..bobby beat me this time….bloody good job im not a friggin cowboy or i’d be deed!!lol

  • 108 firebug666 // Jan 11, 2016 at 7:22 PM

    JackButler

    All I know mate is he is good at keeping possession, and can get in a tackle, he knows how to pass long and short, he’s right footed, has a decent shot and looks to be a good header of the ball two.

    He played against us for Bordeaux back in 2012 Europa league.

    He has played various positions and seems comfortable in any of them.

    That’s as much as I have read on him, he is Bordeaux Captain…or was!

  • 109 lesh // Jan 11, 2016 at 7:22 PM

    Pardew’s taking the pi$$ – he’s feeding the press and avin a larf at the expense of Ashley and HMV – his master’s voice, Charnley!

  • 110 beermonkey // Jan 11, 2016 at 7:24 PM

    if we bring in shelvy as well as this savait chap would it be worth putting colback at left back

  • 111 JackButler // Jan 11, 2016 at 7:24 PM

    Thanks lads, I read that piece and the cynic in me noticed the mention of his long injury history and loss of pace ?.

    Let’s hope this one works out for us and his closely followed through the door by a striker and defensive reinforcements as that’s the real shortfall of this squad

  • 112 SPRINGY // Jan 11, 2016 at 7:25 PM

    soccer sauce…..hearing saivet has passed his medical and looking like shelvey by the weekend

  • 113 SPRINGY // Jan 11, 2016 at 7:26 PM

    beermonkey
    maybe…..wing back depending on the formation

  • 114 firebug666 // Jan 11, 2016 at 7:28 PM

    JackButler

    That injury and loss of pace only meant he had to change his game from striker to CM, I could be damming, or it could be a blessing as he still has an eye for goal and we need goals.

  • 115 firebug666 // Jan 11, 2016 at 7:29 PM

    He’s also a decent free kick taker.

  • 116 Bobbybee // Jan 11, 2016 at 7:30 PM

    Oh well, sat up long enough and paying for it now. Got to lie down before i break something else! Try to get back on tomorrow if i can. Nice to see everyone talking about football and not arguing for once. Amazing what a transfer or two can do innit? 😉

  • 117 Jib // Jan 11, 2016 at 7:30 PM

    We would have been away to Forest in the cup

  • 118 JackButler // Jan 11, 2016 at 7:32 PM

    Firebug

    I hope so mate, as I said I know little of the lad and I really, really hope he works out and hit the ground running as we are in a desperate state.

    Beer

    Putting Coldback into a left back slot will only compound the flaws we have, we need proven players, playing in their best, dedicated positions and no more of this filling in to get buy. Saivet and Shelvey will help our midfield problems out. The defence needs to be seriously addressed as a separate entity

  • 119 firebug666 // Jan 11, 2016 at 7:32 PM

    Bobbybee

    Take it easy marra, hope you better soon, well done on the offer of your ticket mate, I was tempted until the stairs bit, I cannon get up or down stairs unless on my bum, and the distance 20 odd mile is also a challenge.

  • 120 SPRINGY // Jan 11, 2016 at 7:32 PM

    beermonkey
    maybe…..wing back depending on the formation
    bobby
    later mate

  • 121 Bambams // Jan 11, 2016 at 7:37 PM

    Blackley and Brownlie
    Fella I saw your comment earlier about Troy and his fracas with Lee Clark at the talk in.
    Did the Stavers tell you this or were you present ?
    Just wondering like

  • 122 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 11, 2016 at 7:37 PM

    JackButler

    Aye. Me too.
    “However, the plethora of injury issues that reduced the former France u21 international to just seven league starts last season robbed him of his blistering pace and forced him to redesign his game.”

    Also the word “diminutive”.

    I’ll reserve judgment obviously but this looks like a typical Carr signing. I wonder what Makro truly reckons and how much input he’s having.

  • 123 nightfa11 // Jan 11, 2016 at 7:37 PM

    so saviet basically came in for goufrann?

  • 124 beermonkey // Jan 11, 2016 at 7:41 PM

    jackbutler

    is colback at left back a better option than dummett is

    I cant see us buying a leftback this window

  • 125 Vask // Jan 11, 2016 at 7:42 PM

    BBC reporting that Saviet is a winger, despite his central role, I wonder if he’ll be played primarily on the left?

  • 126 JackButler // Jan 11, 2016 at 7:43 PM

    Blackey

    My biggest issue is, and no doubt I could very well be shot down for this, but I simply don’t trust Carr to sign the players we need. He has failed so many times and has wasted millions of what has been made available that it’s hard to have any trust in the man anymore. We lack pace, we lack that physical stature that is a must for this league and with the limited funds we do have he can’t be allowed to continue to waste them

  • 127 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 11, 2016 at 7:43 PM

    Bambams
    No I wasn’t there. He and his mates told me about it. Ask him to tell you. As Troy tells it, Clarkie was fuming. I can’t recall the questioning he was giving him.

    Nearly as good as the one where Troy collared Souness pitchside after a game, got a selfie with him and still with his arm around his shoulder told him he had to resign.

  • 128 Pootle2118 // Jan 11, 2016 at 7:45 PM

    Could do with some help peeps, I’ve been sitting wracking my brains to think of a PL LB that we would have a sniff of signing and all I can come up with is Jose Enrique or maybe an outside sniff at Neil Taylor or an even more outside sniff at Chambers on loan. Anyone think of any others or is LB a position we’re gonna have to delve into the Euro leagues for?

  • 129 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 11, 2016 at 7:46 PM

    JackButler
    We need pace in midfield. If this write up on Saivet is accurate, we’re not getting it. Shelvey won’t bring it either. Whose team is this? Carr’s or Makro’s?

  • 130 Bri // Jan 11, 2016 at 7:47 PM

    If this Saviet bloke turns out to be another flop from the french league Carr needs to be sacked. Why don’t we scout in eastern Europe for a change,it’s because of the ludicrous transfer policy we struggle big time.

  • 131 JackButler // Jan 11, 2016 at 7:48 PM

    Beer

    My nan is a better option that Dummett, but the reason we are where we are is because we don’t address the real issues. Coldback is no left back and so should not be used as one unless there are no other options and having a cheap, future gambling owner should not be seen as an option in my opinion.

    We need a left back, a centre half and a striker otherwise we are facing relegation and even someone like Ashley must be able to see that what we could lose out on is monumental compared to what it would cost to put it right.

  • 132 JackButler // Jan 11, 2016 at 7:50 PM

    And interesting point is that Saivet is represented by the same agency that most of our French players Carr has supposedly scouted

  • 133 Vask // Jan 11, 2016 at 7:50 PM

    Who is our cover for right back?

  • 134 Bambams // Jan 11, 2016 at 7:51 PM

    Blackley and Brownlie
    I didn’t know about the Souness one, I was with him when he almost manhandled Steve Bruce ( whilst he was mackems manager) one night out in Jesmond.
    The tales of Troy….I have so many.
    He is a good lad, great character. If a bit short

  • 135 OneAlanShearer // Jan 11, 2016 at 7:53 PM

    “@GraemeBailey: Newcastle look to seal Jonjo Shelvey deal after he dropped wage demands. Bas Dost move back on. hitc.com/en-gb/2016/01/… via @HITCsport”

  • 136 SPRINGY // Jan 11, 2016 at 7:56 PM

    jack
    robertson if not willems….not enrique been injured and unfit for a year….had his 1st game back in the cup on friday night and looked rusty….plus its a non-starter coz of his age
    cb i would go koulibaly or lamine kone….koulibaly would take some prying off napoli.
    remy and berahino preferably but any 1 or 2 of the 3 you mentioned

  • 137 Pootle2118 // Jan 11, 2016 at 7:56 PM

    I’m off to get fed and watered, catch up with you later chaps

  • 138 SPRINGY // Jan 11, 2016 at 7:58 PM

    enjoy pootle

  • 139 firebug666 // Jan 11, 2016 at 8:03 PM

    Lee Ryder ?@lee_ryder 19s20 seconds ago
    Saivet says: “I am now a player of Newcastle” #nufc

  • 140 firebug666 // Jan 11, 2016 at 8:03 PM

    Lee Ryder ?@lee_ryder 10s11 seconds ago
    It’s a five and a half year deal for Saivet. #nufc Newcastle saying undisclosed fee but thought to be £4.5m

  • 141 beermonkey // Jan 11, 2016 at 8:04 PM

    jackbutler

    until someone get hired at our club who knows how to buy and build a squad we wont get what we need

    we buy players on a whim not whats needed and the other criteria is they must be managed by mondial sports

    do we even bother scouting now do they just ring up and say we got a striker looking for a move u wanna buy him

  • 142 JackButler // Jan 11, 2016 at 8:04 PM

    Springy

    The sad thing is that 99.9% of us knew we need those type of players in back in the summer, but again we allowed Carr to faff about and fast track us to where we are now.

    People we excited by what we did in the summer but as soon as they announced Colo was being given a new deal AND retaining the armband, the writing was on the wall.

    Ashley’s aim is simply to remain in the league for the least amount of expenditure possible but sooner or later it will catch up with us and it could well be this season as I can’t see us righting the biggest issues with this squad this window

  • 143 firebug666 // Jan 11, 2016 at 8:04 PM

    Lee Ryder ?@lee_ryder 24s24 seconds ago
    McClaren: “Henri is someone the Club have been watching for a while, and he has developed into an excellent player at Bordeaux.” #nufc

  • 144 firebug666 // Jan 11, 2016 at 8:05 PM

    There is now a picture of him holding the shirt in the tunnel at SJP.. On Twitter

  • 145 SPRINGY // Jan 11, 2016 at 8:07 PM

    theres a video on soccer sauce

  • 146 lesh // Jan 11, 2016 at 8:07 PM

    Bobbybee

    Sorry to hear about your Osteoporosis and as one who’s blessed with it, I’d advise you to treat it with respect and take the medication as instructed.

    It’ll put paid to any bungee or parachute jumps you might have in mind and you’ll need to bear it in mind when your instincts tell you to jump for joy when we win the Prem next season!

    Keep smiling bonny lad

  • 147 firebug666 // Jan 11, 2016 at 8:08 PM

    Well now we have five and a half years to see if he is any good in the premiership.

  • 148 JamesToon // Jan 11, 2016 at 8:08 PM

    Welcome Henri, with our full support I’m sure he can become a success.

    Bri

    From what I hear Saivet is a fairly pacey player

  • 149 JackButler // Jan 11, 2016 at 8:09 PM

    Beer

    Carr’s position must now be under serious threat as we all know that Ashley doesn’t like freeing up funds so for him to see Carr waste tens of millions on failure after failure must be bringing his time at the club to and end.

    Example being, how much did he waste on Cabella only to replace him with an even more expensive, but equally as bad, Thauvin?

  • 150 firebug666 // Jan 11, 2016 at 8:11 PM

    SPRINGY

    I cannot find the video mate, but I was on twitter.

  • 151 lesh // Jan 11, 2016 at 8:13 PM

    If Ashley does call time on Carr’s profligacy, then maybe he’ll dump his model and go for a credible manager and give him full authority over transfer dealings.

    We can but hope

  • 152 beermonkey // Jan 11, 2016 at 8:15 PM

    jackbutler

    I don’t think carr will get the sack look at the manager situation we know we wont sack them
    I don’t see any1 on the board getting the sack
    hopefully carr will retire soon

  • 153 SPRINGY // Jan 11, 2016 at 8:15 PM

    found it thru soccer sauce but cant find it now…sure it’ll be around before long just him standing in front of the pitch laughing then say…hi im henri saivet and i am now a newcastle player…..thats all mate…..10 seconds or something he’ll be on sky soon

  • 154 Blofal // Jan 11, 2016 at 8:15 PM

    Well now Saivet has been announced lets hope it’s not because they are going to sell Tiote.

    Surely they wouldn’t be that stupid…..

  • 155 croftus5678 // Jan 11, 2016 at 8:16 PM

    http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20160111/factfile-henri-saivet_2281670_5266745

  • 156 firebug666 // Jan 11, 2016 at 8:17 PM

    SPRINGY

    I found it on fourfourtweet mate, Just introducing himself and telling us he plays for Newcastle now.

  • 157 dok - the horrid colonial // Jan 11, 2016 at 8:18 PM

    blofal,

    what club have you been watching the last 7 years… surely they WOULD!! lol

  • 158 Average_Contents // Jan 11, 2016 at 8:18 PM

    Fb

    Got any links to the pic mate?

  • 159 jazzyp // Jan 11, 2016 at 8:19 PM

    Welcome to Nufc Mr Saivet, Not sold but I hope you prove me wrong.
    How much was Dele Alli by the way which the board wouldn’t sanction ??

  • 160 jazzyp // Jan 11, 2016 at 8:20 PM

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYdvxyzWkAAFviK.jpg

  • 161 JamesToon // Jan 11, 2016 at 8:21 PM

    According to the chronicle mcclaren is the one who is pushing the Shelvey transfer through, perhaps a change of approach from the club?

  • 162 JackButler // Jan 11, 2016 at 8:22 PM

    Beer

    It’s a well know fact that Pardew and Carr did not get along because of the type of players he signed and we have all seen what Pardew has done at Palace where he does have control over players so if SM has the same issues Carr is the common denominator. As for him retiring, I think he has around three years left on his eight year deal so I can’t see him going anywhere of his own volition

  • 163 firebug666 // Jan 11, 2016 at 8:22 PM

    Ac you can try this one mate

    https://twitter.com/FourFourTweet

  • 164 firebug666 // Jan 11, 2016 at 8:24 PM

    And this from NUFC official site

    http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20160111/united-complete-saivet-signing_2281670_5266658

  • 165 Bri // Jan 11, 2016 at 8:24 PM

    JamesToon
    So is Obertan….. hopefully Saviet will bring more to the team than just pace.

  • 166 Tsunki // Jan 11, 2016 at 8:26 PM

    Not convinced he’ll ‘saivet’ the day oh dear yes sorry but at least it shows SM has an inkling the midfield needs a boost.

  • 167 croftus5678 // Jan 11, 2016 at 8:26 PM

    @161 jt

    hopefully macca is getting a say on the players he wants.

    i must say i like the looks of

    ————-saivet————-
    —-siss—shelvey—wijn—-

    or a swap of saivet and shelvey.

    tons of creativity there from all players and a fair few goals from all over midfield there even the holding midfielder.

  • 168 Tsunki // Jan 11, 2016 at 8:27 PM

    Makes a nice change that we are buying French pla….oh….wait…

  • 169 firebug666 // Jan 11, 2016 at 8:30 PM

    I’m looking forward to seeing this lad on the pitch, I hope he lives up to the hype. I don’t like statistics, but…. his are leaps and bounds ahead of Anita and Colback.

    Welcome to SJP Saivet, now show us what you can do.

  • 170 jazzyp // Jan 11, 2016 at 8:30 PM

    Croftus

    Would have sooner had Alli and Cabaye for 15 mill rather than Shelvey and another French untested import.

  • 171 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 11, 2016 at 8:31 PM

    Bambams @134
    That last line sums Troy up.

    He’s a great lad. Do anything for you. Sound brother. Just hard to get along with. You just need look at Toonsy’s blog today and yesterday to see what he’s like.

    Never heard the Steve Bruce one. What happened there? Ask him about Jake Burns of Stiff Little Fingers. Troy nearly created a diplomatic incident there.

  • 172 firebug666 // Jan 11, 2016 at 8:33 PM

    Saivet

    “I am very happy to be here at Newcastle. I am really proud to be able to play for this Club, and I am really excited at the challenge that lies ahead,” Saivet told the club’s official website. “St. James’ Park is a really impressive and special stadium. In France there is nothing that compares to this, and I can’t wait to get out there with my new team mates and help the team climb the table.”

  • 173 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 11, 2016 at 8:33 PM

    Evening all, back from another visit to the hosp.
    Is this Saivet any cop?
    Shelvey is a player who I think we need but CB and a goal machine are needed to get us out of our plight

  • 174 firebug666 // Jan 11, 2016 at 8:33 PM

    Meanwhile, Newcastle boss Steve McClaren said: “Henri is someone the Club have been watching for a while, and he has developed into an excellent player at Bordeaux. This is someone with a very good mentality, who is a tough player and a winner. “Those are key qualities you need in the Premier League and we are looking forward to seeing him pulling on the Newcastle United shirt.”

  • 175 SPRINGY // Jan 11, 2016 at 8:35 PM

    not exactly sure who’s fit or not for the morra…but still like idea of playing 3-5-2,seemed to work canny at the weekend despite the defeat

  • 176 AncientC // Jan 11, 2016 at 8:37 PM

    So did the club buy Saivet because he is paramount to what the club need right now.

    Or…

    Saivet only had 12 months left on his deal in the next window transfer window; as such, Carr was able to get a very good price for him.

  • 177 OneAlanShearer // Jan 11, 2016 at 8:41 PM

    So….If they are to buy 2 or 3 more

    They buy the following:

    Henri Saivet 4.5m
    Shelvey 12m

    Sell tiote,gouffran,Marveaux,obertan,bigi,ferguson

    To offset that spend to some degree.

    It also knocks wage bill down.

    Buy one or two of

    bas dost
    Ben yedder
    austin
    Beharino
    carroll

    Sell
    cisse, Riviere …just to offset wages and a few million

    Buy

    A solid tall quick centre back

    Sell williamson just for hits and giggles.

    That for me leaves gk, lb and lw to address in the summer. Personally I’d try and solve the lot now as prices will only go up in the summer as will wage demands. Then we can focus on preseason and getting a style of play and momentum for next season.

    After shelvey I’d say two strikers or 1 and a lw would be my focus to stay up. Teams stay up on strikers…

  • 178 OneAlanShearer // Jan 11, 2016 at 8:47 PM

    Springy – 352 suits the players we have. I’d go for it with one change. Put Wijnaldum up top with mitrovic. I’d use colback instead of tiote who is suspended but the problem is mbabu has a knock as does thauvin snd it’s a lot to ask aarons or perez to play wing back on the left. So I suspect he will go 442. Praying for a result.

  • 179 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 11, 2016 at 8:47 PM

    AncientC @176
    We’ll see but as the past is a good guide to the future, I’d very much think the latter.

  • 180 Moonraker15 // Jan 11, 2016 at 8:59 PM

    Ancient
    Re Saivet; whatever, we need his creativity in midfield; and I believe he likes a tackle.

  • 181 OneAlanShearer // Jan 11, 2016 at 9:05 PM

    I think Mcclaren will go back to 4231 once shelvey is signed (crosses everything):

    Elliot

    Janmaat Mbemba Colo Dummett

    Shelvey saivet

    Sissoko Wijnaldum perez

    Mitrovic

    Or even try 433

    Same back 4 but

    Saivet shelvey colback

    Sissoko mitrovic Wijnaldum

    The fact we would now start passing forwards from midfield rather than always relying on sissoko or Janmaat has got to help plus aarons should be back soon so another option there as well.

    If we sign two strikers I’d love to see

    442 like this

    Same back 4

    Sissoko shelvey saivet Wijnaldum

    Beharino/Ben yedder austin/dost/carroll

    Having a really strong bench too and further squad depth that can actually change games has to help …De jong, anita,perez, mitrovic, aarons…We have to keep pushing and not stop at shelvey…I hope they keep going with signings until the last minute the more they get the more chance we have turning this season around…The teams around us will be fighting too.

  • 182 kajman // Jan 12, 2016 at 9:07 AM

    Just seen shelve around Leeds On M1 north , I’m a truck driver and he being driven up ,provate plate,, shelve??? ,,if it’s not him then he as a brother with a shelve plate and bald

  • 183 G peart 83 // Jan 12, 2016 at 5:54 PM

    Most fans on here saying don’t sell tiote one good game in 3 years and he will be injured again soon take the 8 million ASAP i say

  • 184 G peart 83 // Jan 12, 2016 at 6:04 PM

    Any one on here been following progress of Olivier kemen




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