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Selling This Player Now Will Be More Bad Policy By Newcastle

3:16 pm, Wednesday, January 13th, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 128 Comments

Newcastle have brought in two central midfielders this month with Jonjo Shelvey and Henri Saivet, so here we go again as we seem to be set to unload the experienced Cheick Tiote to Chinese club Shanghai Shenhua for £3M.

Why are we doing that?

We should be keeping Cheick through the end of the season and use him when necessary to help the team avoid relegation.

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Cheick Tiote – keep him at the club until the summer

When top clubs bring in new players they don’t immediately sell one of the players in that position – that doesn’t build squad depth – which is the problem Newcastle have had ever since Mike Ashley bought the club.

It’s even more important that we should keep Tiote one board because we pick up so many injuries each season – what happens if one or two of our central midfielders pick up injuries?

Newcastle continue to not think through things fully before they make decisions.

They should remember Murphy’s Law – when things can go wrong they will – and at the worst possible time.

Newcastle operate by trying to make a buck wherever, whenever and however they can.

They would seem to think that £3M is worth more than having Cheick Tiote play for us through the end of the season, or at least be available to play if needed.

Top clubs have top players on the bench but not Newcastle – we try to run with a threadbare squad.

That policy will be seen in operation this month if we are daft enough to allow Cheick Tiote to leave.

Lee Charnley sold Davide Santon for a fast buck on the last day of last year’s January transfer window, simply because a deal with Inter-Milan was possible.

After all we had Paul Dummett and Massadio Haidara available to play at left-back, so we would be OK.

And what happened – Paul Dummett was injured almost immediately and missed most of the rest of the season before he returned with just a few games to play – when we were in serious trouble of relegation.

And even then Paul was forced to play not fully fit and because of that missed the first few months of this season.

That’s one of Newcastle’s failed policies in operation.

Newcastle’s thriftiness doesn’t work in today’s big money football world.

We should keep Tiote and forego the (measly) £3M in the hopes that we can receive around £135M in each of the next three years, starting next May, when the new PL £5B sponsor deal kicks in.

We will only get that money if we can stay in the Premier League.

Newcastle should think big – for a change.

Tags: Cheick Tiote · Contracts · Financials · Newcastle News · Transfer News and Rumours

128 responses so far ↓

  • 1 JackButler // Jan 13, 2016 at 3:18 PM

    Typical Ashley, he offers a chocolate in one hand while he smacks you in the face with the other.

    If we sell Tiote and retain Anita and Coldback we deserve every single thing we get

  • 2 Dennis Twice // Jan 13, 2016 at 3:20 PM

    Attack Toon attack, attack!

  • 3 martoon // Jan 13, 2016 at 3:23 PM

    I am sorry to tell you all but I reckon Tiote is on his way. There’s something on Skysports news that he may be leaving but also when he was subbed last night he gave a big wave to the crowd which also seemed to suggest it could be his last game!

  • 4 Hail Wor Ashley // Jan 13, 2016 at 3:25 PM

    Nah it isn’t. Stilts play, dwells on it or overplays conceding possession in dangerous areas, silly needless fouls around our box. Plus he’s a crock with bad discipline which means he’s barely ever available – £8m would be a great return.

  • 5 pawl250 // Jan 13, 2016 at 3:25 PM

    I know Tiote has played well last couple of games but he is not the player he was.

    He is 30 this year, probably on big wages. He is African so will be selected for Afcn next year.

    And yet he has managed 23-24 games in 2 seasons.

    He goes missing as far as I am concerned when it matters.

    I mean he was solid yesterday but I honestly think Anita is a better player and is probably our best Cdm. Example Southampton at the start of the season. Anita went off and Tiote on and it all went wrong in the centre.

    I never used to rate Anita but he has stepped up. Colback is a passenger and should be a back up at best.

    Janmaat – Mbemba – Coloccini – Dummett
    Shelvey – Anita
    Sissoko – Wijnaldum – Thauvin

    The above is our best team in my opinion.

  • 6 Hail Wor Ashley // Jan 13, 2016 at 3:27 PM

    Anita is stepping up now and coming to terms with the demands of the PL. We’ve just bought 2 CMs and Colback is a steady Eddie.

  • 7 lukes26 // Jan 13, 2016 at 3:30 PM

    Put Colback at LB, Shelvey takes his midfield role, and it’s all sorted

    Tiote is finally playing like his old self, theres no chance we sell him

  • 8 JackButler // Jan 13, 2016 at 3:30 PM

    Tiote may not be the player he used to be but he adds more bite in the middle of the park than what Anita and Coldback do combined. Saivet may be a direct replacement for Tiote but selling in and keeping the other two shows the mentality that has ended us up where we are and where we always are come this time of year

  • 9 John Tudor // Jan 13, 2016 at 3:31 PM

    repost as ed bangs the post out quicker than i type
    // Jan 13, 2016 at 3:28 PM

    Just a few words from me on being a lifelong fan of nufc and not as some odious and obnoxious posters that can only resort to that tack.
    all of these are true,some can be verified others not.

    the fairs cup final away leg listening to a dodgy little tranny radio outside in longbenton (as reception was shit inside)with father and his brother now sadly gone, The joy of winning it and i recall the monday morning at break time the whole school singing and chanting,the teachers having to come out to get us in,and a couple of the ring leaders called Toolie and Fletcher.

    camping out for league cup tickets interviewed by ronnie gill pictures in the paper but ending up from first in the que to being halfway up Barrack rd entrance as the pubs chucked out and the swarms arrived to get in first.

    bit of a rant i know but no one takes my memories away,and i have every right to express MY OPINIONS on here without being accused of being from pennywell or hendon.

    you know who you are

    forgive the grammar in not au fait with new fangled tech

  • 10 pawl250 // Jan 13, 2016 at 3:33 PM

    Colback is not a left back.

    Tiote likes to spin on the spot.

    Tell you what else Perez was naff last night being greedy amd conceding possession to often.

    Formed Thauvin needs to play with Mitrovic as he is the only natural crosser of the ball.

  • 11 SPRINGY // Jan 13, 2016 at 3:37 PM

    i read the other day that its tiote who wants to leave….if thats the case cant really blame ashley

  • 12 JackButler // Jan 13, 2016 at 3:39 PM

    Even if he wants to leave then allow it in the summer as right now we need everyone helping us get out of this self created bloody mess

  • 13 pawl250 // Jan 13, 2016 at 3:39 PM

    John Tudor

    You are right but some of your “opinions” are sarcastic towards other posters.

    So when they pull you on it you throw the toys out the pram.

    I do not think many people on here cannot be called “non supporters” just because they were not old enough to be around for fair cup final.

    I mean I am 28, most of my life as a Newcastle fan has been a mid table/relegation fodder. Yet I still support and go to games, surely this is a bigger testament of being a fan watching the team when they play badly.

    It’s easy to support Keegans era, but watching the team under likes of Kinnear is when you can call yourself hardcore.

    I missed 1 game in the Championship, the only time that I can remember us being in that division. It did not stop me supporting the club.

    I think we all have memories but no reason we cannot get along, and ultimately no need for the sarcastic and sometimes blunt comments.

    I was always told treat those as you wish to me treated. I may write in an aggressive manner I get that, but I never ever mean any harm by it.

    Think I have only ever called one person in my time on this blog.

  • 14 Goldmbemba // Jan 13, 2016 at 3:39 PM

    IMO tiote has had his best years, loved him in his first couple of seasons, especially with cabaye in the middle. I remember someone saying ‘is there a better midfield pair in the league right now than cabaye tiote?’

    and of course he’s legendary for THAT goal against arsenal.

    But come on, whens the last time he’s made headlines the way he used to.

    I think we shouldve kept abeid. hopefully we’ll be ok with the new guys, maybe we’ll even get another player in the summer.

    Or how about converting siem de jong into a DM!!

  • 15 Goofy // Jan 13, 2016 at 3:42 PM

    Van’t believe mist are turning on Perez after one bad game. Some are far to quick to pounce on the negativity wagon. I noticed a fan screaming “you did fcuk all” when he’s being subbed (no I’m not a lip reader, just looked like that what he was saying) The guy’s been one of our best players and is still young, he doesn’t deserve the stick. Maybe rest him for a game or two.

  • 16 Shaker Shakrah // Jan 13, 2016 at 3:44 PM

    Tiote must be sold even for FREEEEEEEEEEEE !!!!!!
    we’ve signed his replacement !!! Saivet
    & we also got Cabaye’s replacement at last !!! Shelvey
    So now we got 2 CMs , why you have to complain ?!

    We need a left back because Dummett can not defend
    and we need a Goalscorer next …..

  • 17 Our Toon // Jan 13, 2016 at 3:44 PM

    Tiote is head and shoulders above colback and Anita, the example given of Anita going off at Southampton is a poor one. It was Tiote’s first game in 6 months after being out injured and was clearly unfit.

    Picks up yellows but wins the ball back more often than not. His yellow yesterday was a sensible one, stopping Rooney from joining the attack as we were being overrun….that’s called taking one for the team.

    The defence look more confident with him in that position

  • 18 JackButler // Jan 13, 2016 at 3:44 PM

    The apathy that surrounds us is frightening, we openly talk about playing this player out of position and that player out of position because we know the owner has us firmly by the short and curlies.

    We all slate Ashley but in reality we are just as responsible as we’ve allowed him to systematically ruin this once great club and beat us into submission

    Pretty sad when you think about it

  • 19 pawl250 // Jan 13, 2016 at 3:45 PM

    Siem cannot tackle. He is best passing first time to a willing runner.

    Again maintain

    De Jong/ Perez should play together
    Thauvin/Mitrovic should play together

    Tiote is past it. It’s all good keeping him for a back up but my sources say he is not a great influence behind the scenes. The words “trouble” and “lazy” where often used.

    Supposedly he self declares injury and refuses to play. The staff do not stop him from playing.

    I think he has had a few good games, but we need to move on. If him leaving allows another play in, I would welcome it.

    As I said he will be “injured” in the next game or so.

  • 20 John Tudor // Jan 13, 2016 at 3:45 PM

    yes pawl
    but you can post sarcastic comments if you like the thing i post are just my way of venting the frustrations of this regime and i’m not too fussed if people read them or not but hey ho
    and by the way try following them under seymour westwood dinnis and lee not very nice

  • 21 JamesToon // Jan 13, 2016 at 3:45 PM

    i’d keep tiote till the end of the season as he does solidify our midfield

  • 22 Our Toon // Jan 13, 2016 at 3:46 PM

    As for Perez, I like him but I don’t like how long he keeps the ball for. Yesterday he was shocking which can happen but he’s been like that for last 4 or 5 games!! He needs to start being a team player

  • 23 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Jan 13, 2016 at 3:47 PM


    De Jong is going to have to be converted into something !! Hes on about 40 k a week so we are going to struggle to offload him to another league without paying his wages

    I said at the start of the season we should have loaned him out for the first few months and I stand by that now as he would have been fully fit so at least we could have seen what he is capable of !

    At Ajax he played a lot of games as a striker and he can hold the ball up well , is good in the air and has vision (like a poor mans Giroud)so maybe he could play there if Mitrovic is not fit and we dont get another striker ?

    Success with Mclaren in his preferred formation seems to rely on having a player like that as the main striker to hold the ball up so the rest of the team can play off him as we were woeful at the start when Cisse was the main player up front

    Anyone see West Hams goals last night? 2 free kicks out of this world and Payets skill for the other goal was immense !! Going to be a tough game on Saturday

  • 24 pawl250 // Jan 13, 2016 at 3:48 PM


    Perez has been playing poorly since he self declared interest from other clubs.

    He holds the ball too long, misses too many chances, and I just think he is over hyped. I am not saying he is a bad player, just he is very average with potential to become a better player. He does need to learn to pass more often though, Gini was through on goal had he made a simple pass, instead he did a weak shot from the edge of the box.

  • 25 lukes26 // Jan 13, 2016 at 3:48 PM


    I honestly think Sissoko is our best crosser. He’s definitely the most accurate crosser.

    Thauvin is very good at crossing though.

    Colback has played lb twice at least… and did very well both times. But you might be right, there’s likely a good reason he isnt selected over dummett. LB seems to be an easier position to play, its not really complicated. Colback doesnt seem clever enough for the CM spot.

    Youre right about Ayoze, he’s not a winger or a midfielder.

  • 26 Shaker Shakrah // Jan 13, 2016 at 3:48 PM


    Really ?!
    When Perez speaks about how he is proud to be linked with Man Utd and he play that BAD against them
    He deserve EVERYTHING …!
    It’s time for him to warm up the bench and NO
    he is not our best player , he went backwards from last season .

  • 27 Our Toon // Jan 13, 2016 at 3:48 PM

    A player that’s past it doesn’t perform like he did against Arsenal and man utd like he has. Arsenal arguably the 2nd best midfield in terms of form and he ran the show!!

    Yesterday Herrera barely got a kick, 30m quid player. Past it is extreme… only have to look at the results without Tiote to realise the affect he has

  • 28 JackButler // Jan 13, 2016 at 3:48 PM


    Major issue with who you want to see paired up and that’s SDJ is never fit for more than five minutes and Thauvin is another Carr special.

  • 29 HKTP // Jan 13, 2016 at 3:49 PM

    The lad had a phenomenal first season with us, he stalled as he watched Cabaye dictate play and assumed he could do the same. His strength has always been to break up play and set up a counter attack but he decides to mince about and put the defence under greater pressure, the exact opposite of what he is there to do.
    Got to sell him, a couple of recent decent games but still a liability.

  • 30 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 13, 2016 at 3:49 PM

    Hi JB…long time no see 🙂

    You just echoed what I have been saying for a long time!

    Ed…you will basically get 5 more games from Tiote before summer. He was never worth keeping especially now that we have signed two CM.

  • 31 SPRINGY // Jan 13, 2016 at 3:51 PM

    i had a go at his performance but have’nt turned on the lad and like you believe he needs a rest…..but like i said last night or this morning he’s been a shining light in a shower of shite this season and last but he had a bad game everybody will from time to time…he may need a bit of a rest but if he’s picked for sat he’ll pick himself up,dust himself down and probs have a blinder…truth is macca should of taken him of earlier as it just was’nt his night……its done now move on to sat

  • 32 custurd // Jan 13, 2016 at 3:51 PM

    Last year we virtually gave away out best left back, centre back and attacker in Santon, Mbiwa and Ben Arfa, which left us woefully short of quality and quantity in those positions. Why should this year be any different?

  • 33 Goofy // Jan 13, 2016 at 3:53 PM

    Don’t know if Carrol’s injury was a bad tackle or pulled up. If he pulled up then he really is a true Geordie. He knew he’d have a grest chance to score against us on Saturday but probably would kill him to score against us, like Chopra for Scumberland, straight through on goal and shot it 10 yards wide deliberately HWTL 😀

  • 34 Graeme // Jan 13, 2016 at 3:55 PM

    Sky Sports claim Shanghai have met the £8 Million asking price for Tiote!!!

  • 35 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Jan 13, 2016 at 3:56 PM


    Still not replaced Santon or Ben Arfa yet Mbiwa has been replaced by Mbemba possibly ….

    Anyone think it might be time to rest Perez and put Gouffran the warrior at left wing again ? Na me neither…..

  • 36 Goofy // Jan 13, 2016 at 3:57 PM

    Agreed Perez did have a stinker and Mclaren should’ve subbed him early on. Hopefully your right and he’ll nang a few in on Saturday 🙂

  • 37 JackButler // Jan 13, 2016 at 3:57 PM

    Jesper my friend how are you?

    Been a while 🙂

  • 38 lukes26 // Jan 13, 2016 at 3:58 PM

    Santon sits on the bench consistently at Inter, playing in a lesser league
    Mbiwa couldnt cut it at Roma
    Ben Arfa couldnt cut the EPL at Hull, yes, Hull

  • 39 lukes26 // Jan 13, 2016 at 3:59 PM

    8 million for tiote! nevermind what I said earlier, sell! sell!

  • 40 SPRINGY // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:00 PM

    newsnow saying newcastle pushing for townsend and already have a fitness program in place to get his sharpness back quicker….still negotiating tho

  • 41 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:00 PM

    Graeme…does he need a lift to the airport?

  • 42 hibbitt // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:01 PM

    i watched perez last night and i think its time for a rest the lads done way better then any one thought he would and i think the boy has been over played

  • 43 SPRINGY // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:01 PM

    i didnt think santon was good defensively ok going forward but always thought he would of made a cracking right back right midfielder…..but not a left back

  • 44 JAMSHA // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:03 PM

    according to daily mail nufc backroom staff have devised a fitness plan for townsend in preparation for his arrival

  • 45 Graeme // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:03 PM

    Jesper, He has offers of 3 piggy-backs and 5 different lifts lol

  • 46 lukes26 // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:04 PM

    Springy…santon has been playing RB for Inter, but got benched after only a few games into this season

  • 47 Belfast // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:04 PM

    I think De Jong will be following him out the door to be honest.

  • 48 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:06 PM

    No matter what people say about Santon or Ben Arfa as players or how they are doing for their current clubs fact is they have not been replaced

    We need a left back and a winger who can create chances and score some goals until we get them the side will always be unbalanced

  • 49 hibbitt // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:06 PM

    jamsha………thats him knackerd then

  • 50 JackButler // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:07 PM

    So if Townsend comes in that three players through the door and the better part of thirty million spent! Wonder if there will be enough in the piggy bank for the striker, centre half and left back we are crying out for?

  • 51 SPRINGY // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:07 PM

    agree with you about perez was off his game and needs a rest….. his awareness of opposition players around him was shocking got caught time after time….and looked weak,knocked about easily….he’s grafted solidly for a long time now a couple of games might revitalize him….but not on the left….up front with mitro somehow or behind mitro for me

  • 52 SPRINGY // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:11 PM

    dont think they’ll buy a left back as i believe willems might be coming in the summer….a loan maybe.
    a striker will be the main target i believe,unsure on cb

  • 53 hibbitt // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:11 PM

    jack were do you get 30m from that makes townsend more the shevley

  • 54 BeeGuy // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:11 PM

    I’d miss Tiote, but he is 30 and not getting faster, younger or tactically smarter. Take the money and re-invest.

  • 55 SPRINGY // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:13 PM

    i’d prefer tiote to stay but think he wants away

  • 56 Goofy // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:14 PM


    You think he played bad because he wants to sign for them? Cmon. The best way to be noticed would be to totally rip their defence a new one. I’m not going to hate a player who comes out and says I’d like to sign for a team with ambition. If I played for the toon just now and some bigger tteam came in with a decent contract, I’d be off.

    Newcastle is a circus and has been since Ashley took over with the whole non investing, poor manager etc,
    We are a selling club and players see that as a stepping stone to something better. Most will jump ship at first chance, can we really blame them.

    I never actually said Perez was our best player just that he is one of our best players. He deserves to be penned in when fit.

  • 57 lukes26 // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:14 PM

    Just like Tiote earlier this season, it’s too early to write off De Jong. He’s not fully fit. He was Ajax’s captain, and arguably their best player.

  • 58 JackButler // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:15 PM


    Levey wants £14 million for him, will not allow a loan and the player himself has said he will not be a make weight in any deal.


    I’d give up calling for a CB if it got us a left back and that is our biggest defensive weakness right now. I read somewhere last week that Remy was being given a week to decide if he wanted to come here on loan or not?

    Any truth in that you think?

    As right now Remy would be about the best option

  • 59 hibbitt // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:18 PM

    springy his whole game was off last night his energy levels were low his time was way out compared to the high standards he normal plays at ……all this points to fatigue a rest will do him good

  • 60 will die for the toon army // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:19 PM

    Sell sell.

    Played well recently but he is a 30 yr old always injured. Not sure abt his starting place.

  • 61 hibbitt // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:20 PM

    jack……….. i read that i just can not see us paying that kind of money for him a loan might be worth the risk but 14 m never

  • 62 JackButler // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:22 PM

    Hibbit………they will not loan him, they were trying to use him to get Berahino but the p,Ayer wouldn’t have it

  • 63 SPRINGY // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:23 PM

    i read the same about remy…but since then hiddink said he was’nt going but since then again chelsea are looking at strikers so hard to tell tbh…..i think a striker is priority and townsend and a left back loan are we’ll see how things are near the end of the window tbh…….on SDJ i would maybe discuss with going on loan then he can get game time to sharpen up….dont know if he would be interested

  • 64 will die for the toon army // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:24 PM

    Townsend should come. Its crazy how a player is not wanted at the club and the club need alot of money for him and he hasnt been playing.

    Thats why i like NUFC you want out we hear the offer take you off our books and we move on.

    Levy is jst being greedy and selfish.

  • 65 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:24 PM

    Levy is probably hoping that a team is in such relegation troubles that hey panic and pay the full amount for Townsend

    Problem being Townsend has fell out with the Spurs manager so there is no way of knowing how fit he is so every team is going to want a loan to see if he is worth a permanent transfer

    I think by the end of the window we will have him on loan as you know we dont panic lol

  • 66 SPRINGY // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:24 PM

    yeah perez was not his normal self

  • 67 Dondatta13 // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:25 PM

    Ha… Just seen Jonjo Shelvey in gatesheads tesco carpark!

    Welcome to the Toon lad.

  • 68 Our Toon // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:26 PM

    He might be 30 and an offer of 8m might be on the table but staying in the prem is worth more than 8m. You all want proven premiership players and then advocate selling one before getting rid of the likes of obertan, Gouffran, Riviere etc

  • 69 beermonkey // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:26 PM

    just incase saivat takes time to settle is the only reason I wouldn’t sell tiote now
    I think the only reason he has played half decent is cos he has been told he can go

    so we have a arranged a special training program for townsend to get him fit is that the ready made excuse for him to be sh1t till next season cos how do they justify the last 3/4 seasons with spurs
    at the reported 14mill I say no thanks

    really hope we start clearing out some if the squad dead wood and maybe start bringing some youngsters in
    not sure if he is still injured but I am surprised we have not been linked more to will hughes from derby players like him the def from leeds not all will cost the earth

  • 70 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:28 PM

    Jack Butler my old mate what have you been up to this season. Certainly not on the Blog much. Anyhow you seem to have retained your level headed approach throughout these difficult times. I agree unlikely to get all three from wish list so No 1 priority recdgnised fit free scoring striker. 2) Left back who can defend and cross a ball 3) CB unlikely to happen as we have FIVE albeit only one good enough Mbemba & Colo who will definitely need replacing at end of season.Then there is sick note Saylor who needs pensioning off Willo the Weak who is just no good enough & Lascelles who is hopefully one for the future. Not interested in Townshend especially if he is to cost money.

  • 71 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:30 PM

    Dondatta Don’t tell me he had a trolley full of lagers!

  • 72 JackButler // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:30 PM

    This point of even thinking about selling anyone with our current position is utter madness imo.

    Saivet may be a class act but he may also end being another Carr special

  • 73 Belfast // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:32 PM

    I told ya he disappears then returns like a bad smell.

  • 74 Dondatta13 // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:32 PM

    Haha @ W.L Geordie… Nah mate.. He was just on his way up to the shops from the carpwrk downstairs… Creased at that thou 😉

  • 75 JackButler // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:34 PM

    West Lancs

    I good mate thanks, been busy with work so kept away from all the smiling and overriding happiness on the blog 🙂

    A left back and striker have to be a must, no matter the cost as we will lose an absolute fortune if we continue to gamble now. The CB I want just to see that disgrace of a captain shoved out the door asap

  • 76 JackButler // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:35 PM

    Belfast you old pigeon chaser, how have you been?

  • 77 jimiley // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:36 PM

    It makes short term economic sense to sell Tiote. More money in the fat mans pockets. Whether it will keep us in the league is another matter. There is no long term planning at this club. Its chaos all the way.

  • 78 will die for the toon army // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:36 PM

    The Mcclaren project was a difficult one.
    1. We lacked motivation
    2. We lacked leadership from top to bottom.
    3. We had no goals and ambitions
    4. We had no playying style.
    5. We had no playing squad.

    So Top 8 and a cup was a big ambition we would never achieve in 2 seasons to come. May be in 2018.

  • 79 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:37 PM

    I think a lot of people who are saying they don’t want Townsend are saying it because there are much more pressing priorities than another winger/midfielder & if we are stuck to a budget then not unless we can offload, obertan, riviere, MARVAUX (60k PW wages)goofy, willo etc I think the big attraction is he’s English. Would we still be interested especially at over £10 M if he were French and couldn;t get in Spurs squad. NO

  • 80 will die for the toon army // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:40 PM

    Wen do we start selling the deadwood

  • 81 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:40 PM

    Rumour in the Gallowgate last night was he was signing tomorrow on loan till end of season.

    Nice touch at Pav’ service today………….

    During the service, which was led by club chaplain the Reverend Canon Glyn Evans, the congregation sang the FA Cup final hymn Abide With Me and the 23rd psalm, to which an extra verse had been added.

    It read: “Pavel is a Geordie evermore, He’s part of our family, He’s played in goal, God rest his soul, a Geordie like you and me.”

  • 82 SPRINGY // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:41 PM

    will die
    at the end of the season need all the players we can till then

  • 83 reilly // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:42 PM

    the lad wants out,so no point in keeping an unhappy player,get what we can and move on.

  • 84 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:42 PM

    Jamiy You’ve hit the nail on the head about Tiote. I heard this Chinese lot were looking to offer £8M.If so Cashley gets Saviet paid for and another £3M in his skyrocket. Also how much did Tiote cost £2M from Twente?Well that’s a 4 bagger & that’s the Sports Direct thinking!

  • 85 will die for the toon army // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:43 PM

    I know why Mcca needs Townsend. His pace and being able to beat a man. With Sissoko one side and Townsend the other then we will b into something great.

    As i said if we buy a CF and WF now we will have CB and LB left which we will have in summer.

  • 86 SPRINGY // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:44 PM

    nice touch mate, commented earlier about it on here… looked a good turn out for the man

  • 87 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:44 PM

    Sorry Jimiley my computer prints wot it wants but I think you’ll agree

  • 88 Rotonda heights // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:44 PM

    very good reason townsend is not wanted at spurs. pochetinno is no mug. why has he been out on loan 11 times. Townsend would make Obertan look like a member of mensa.

  • 89 lesh // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:45 PM

    Common sense says get rid of the rubbish but oh no, sense doesn’t prevail if there’s a few quid being dangled in front of Charnley’s snout!

  • 90 Rotonda heights // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:46 PM

    aarons is 10 times what townsend will ever be and before you say it injury records are similar for both. just a bad idea.

  • 91 will die for the toon army // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:47 PM

    Mcca is a good coach he will train these players and make them better.

    Its the management am scared of.

  • 92 SPRINGY // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:47 PM

    west lancs
    it looks like tiote wants the move and i believe it 3.5 or 4.5m for tiote…not sure mind

  • 93 JackButler // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:48 PM


    Townsend would be completely at home here mate, as you should now already that we are the holy grail for chancers, misfits and crocks

  • 94 will die for the toon army // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:50 PM

    Rotonda heights

    Its better we have all of them.

    Sissoko, Thauvin, Aarons and Townsend.

  • 95 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:50 PM

    85 This Club will never address the defensive problem – EVER & I should know I’ve been watching them a long long time.. Do you want me to quote you my list of really bad CBs we’ve paid mega bucks for. No need we all know who they are!.

  • 96 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:51 PM

    yeah it looked a great turn out and looked quite emotional what I have seen on local news.
    Pav’s brother looked quite emotional at the service.

  • 97 Rotonda heights // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:51 PM

    our toon

    No one would pay 8M for the likes of obertan, Gouffran, Riviere etc.

    on balance 2 new CM new players in, 8m for a 30 year old, often injured, sometimes disinterested player who will be away to the ACON seems a no brainer.

  • 98 hibbitt // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:51 PM

    wlm…………even being english he wont attract the kind of premium levey wants

  • 99 Rotonda heights // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:53 PM

    will die

    no it’s really not. on top of it all he’s an absolute diva.

  • 100 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:55 PM

    Springy I can understand that.He’s coming towards the end of his career & wants big bucks to shove in his person pot. What we should be saying is we want to strengthen & thereby stay up so please stay till end of the season. Another 4/5 months wait to play in China is no big deal. But we need to strengthen not merely replace & we still have no depth. Look at last night. They bring on Mata we had to look to young Ivan Toney.

  • 101 SPRINGY // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:55 PM

    theres alot of players who are out of contract or are entering there last year of the contract so would be surprised if theres a good sold or released in the summer even with a year left…..but for now sell no one unless they want to leave

  • 102 SPRINGY // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:58 PM

    west lancs
    i would say to china you can have him a bit cheaper in the summer and agree a figure now,and keep him here but he might want to go right now coz it’ll be more sign on fee

  • 103 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:58 PM

    Jack’s right.No room for Townsend – Treatment room FULL! Hang on maybe he can have Saylor’s treatment table but it would only be very very short term.

  • 104 hibbitt // Jan 13, 2016 at 4:59 PM

    springy that would be the right thing to do but we all know if a bid comes in and the moneys right the player will be sold

  • 105 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 13, 2016 at 5:03 PM

    Springy can’t argue with your reasoning but despite his bad disciplinary record he is the sort of player we need in a relegation battle & any pre summer deal we could broker between player & Chinese Club would be beneficial. It may be MA has earmarked his funds tough for further purchases

  • 106 SPRINGY // Jan 13, 2016 at 5:06 PM

    looks like the striker search is ganna be a long drawn out saga

  • 107 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 13, 2016 at 5:06 PM

    OK to start a whole new debate What about Peter Crouch to the end of the season if we have injury concerns about Austin & Carroll & Remy won’t move north of Watford. Bas Dost has to have treatment now so out of equation I believe

  • 108 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 13, 2016 at 5:07 PM

    Jak Alnwick told me last year that Tiote has been wanting/hoping for a move for a couple of seasons before he retires so he can have a pay day and be able to send more money home to his family and relations and where he came from in the Ivory Coast

  • 109 SPRINGY // Jan 13, 2016 at 5:08 PM

    west lancs
    we cant cross!lol….so crouchy loses his effectiveness

  • 110 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 13, 2016 at 5:09 PM

    Springy So as long as we don’t get that dreaded standard annual announcement come 31st Jan/1st Feb : “WE really tried to get a quality striker over the line this window but just failed at the last hurdle – sorry yet again!”

  • 111 SPRINGY // Jan 13, 2016 at 5:09 PM

    well if the reports are right its a big pay day if its 8m

  • 112 hibbitt // Jan 13, 2016 at 5:10 PM

    carroll out for 6/8 weeks what will ed do for a headline… about an austin story

  • 113 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 13, 2016 at 5:11 PM

    Yeah but we are getting Townsend Springy & the boy Thauvin is going to come good hopefully

  • 114 SPRINGY // Jan 13, 2016 at 5:12 PM

    west lancs
    thats the worry…charnley should get ballsy and slap 36m double deal in gabbiadini and koulibaly….really test the water!lol

  • 115 SPRINGY // Jan 13, 2016 at 5:14 PM

    west lancs
    if its the end of the window and theres nothing happening with strikers then i’d have a say aye to crouch tbh

  • 116 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 13, 2016 at 5:15 PM

    Understandable Charlie. He has come from very humble beginnings I remember when he first came here from Twente. He couldn’t believe the wages he had been offered.Good luck to the lad but that deal will still be there come June provided our Club sells the deal right to both player & Chinese Club. I think more likely MA wants the £8M in his pot

  • 117 Jail for Ashley // Jan 13, 2016 at 5:15 PM

    I’m not saying anymore on Tiote’s potential sale my views have already been expressed !

  • 118 The Newcastle Armchair // Jan 13, 2016 at 5:17 PM

    Van Gaal “we could have scored six”

    I hate when managers say stuff like this.

    Yes Louis, just like we COULD have scored 7, then the scoreline would have been 7-6. You lose.

  • 119 Jail for Ashley // Jan 13, 2016 at 5:19 PM

    I think 8M is a myth, probably includes agents fees, wages and expenses.

  • 120 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 13, 2016 at 5:20 PM

    Van Gaal…
    I and you were lucky Dean bottled it as you would’nt of had 11 left on the field

  • 121 Jail for Ashley // Jan 13, 2016 at 5:20 PM

    And put out by the “board” to try and justify the sale !

  • 122 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 13, 2016 at 5:22 PM

    Springy Tha never nows what the man is banana do. Who’d a thought he would have spent £72M since June & no sales to speak of YET. Could he yet be persuaded to splash out another £30M especially if he were to get £8M for Tiote.
    I’m just looking at worse case scenario : Crouch on the cheaper, Debuchy & Henrique back as cover in defence on loan & Townsend on loan . Would anyone go for that Nil pay out option if a big money forward bid failed Proviso we get 2/3 of the Frenchies out if only on loan & Willo sold to Wolves

  • 123 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 13, 2016 at 5:24 PM

    TNA – he must know what yer like – he’s just done it to wind yer man!

  • 124 Jail for Ashley // Jan 13, 2016 at 5:25 PM

    Is 40/60K a week not enough to send a bit home to the families ?

  • 125 SPRINGY // Jan 13, 2016 at 5:29 PM

    west lancs
    i would preferably go the young lad at chelsea rahman..whos not happy coz hes not getting a game a left back simply down to the fact enrique has played one game in donkeys…debuchy would rather use mbabu as cover for janmaat to be honest coz debuchy has been injured alot as well… for the other players keep them to cover injuries till the summer

  • 126 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 13, 2016 at 5:31 PM

    Yeah – He sends most of his wages home at the moment but as I posted earlier he wants his family, relations etc to have a decent life back home.

  • 127 goommy // Jan 13, 2016 at 5:34 PM

    Maybe we have plan to bring more new DM to team in this window. Isn’t that’s a good news? I’m quite sure team quality will improve with more new players.

  • 128 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 13, 2016 at 5:37 PM

    Could ask Spurs to lend us Trippier especially if we were willing to pay Townsend’s wages for. 6 months.He was the lad we showed interest in whilst at Burnley. Is he left or right?

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