Selling This Player Now Will Be More Bad Policy By Newcastle


Newcastle have brought in two central midfielders this month with Jonjo Shelvey and Henri Saivet, so here we go again as we seem to be set to unload the experienced Cheick Tiote to Chinese club Shanghai Shenhua for £3M.

Why are we doing that?

We should be keeping Cheick through the end of the season and use him when necessary to help the team avoid relegation.

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Cheick Tiote – keep him at the club until the summer

When top clubs bring in new players they don’t immediately sell one of the players in that position – that doesn’t build squad depth – which is the problem Newcastle have had ever since Mike Ashley bought the club.

It’s even more important that we should keep Tiote one board because we pick up so many injuries each season – what happens if one or two of our central midfielders pick up injuries?

Newcastle continue to not think through things fully before they make decisions.

They should remember Murphy’s Law – when things can go wrong they will – and at the worst possible time.

Newcastle operate by trying to make a buck wherever, whenever and however they can.

They would seem to think that £3M is worth more than having Cheick Tiote play for us through the end of the season, or at least be available to play if needed.

Top clubs have top players on the bench but not Newcastle – we try to run with a threadbare squad.

That policy will be seen in operation this month if we are daft enough to allow Cheick Tiote to leave.

Lee Charnley sold Davide Santon for a fast buck on the last day of last year’s January transfer window, simply because a deal with Inter-Milan was possible.

After all we had Paul Dummett and Massadio Haidara available to play at left-back, so we would be OK.

And what happened – Paul Dummett was injured almost immediately and missed most of the rest of the season before he returned with just a few games to play – when we were in serious trouble of relegation.

And even then Paul was forced to play not fully fit and because of that missed the first few months of this season.

That’s one of Newcastle’s failed policies in operation.

Newcastle’s thriftiness doesn’t work in today’s big money football world.

We should keep Tiote and forego the (measly) £3M in the hopes that we can receive around £135M in each of the next three years, starting next May, when the new PL £5B sponsor deal kicks in.

We will only get that money if we can stay in the Premier League.

Newcastle should think big – for a change.


128 comments so far

  • JackButler

    Jan 13, 2016 at 3:18 PM

    Comment #1

    Typical Ashley, he offers a chocolate in one hand while he smacks you in the face with the other.

    If we sell Tiote and retain Anita and Coldback we deserve every single thing we get

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  • Dennis Twice

    Jan 13, 2016 at 3:20 PM

    Comment #2

    Attack Toon attack, attack!

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  • martoon

    Jan 13, 2016 at 3:23 PM

    Comment #3

    Repost:
    I am sorry to tell you all but I reckon Tiote is on his way. There’s something on Skysports news that he may be leaving but also when he was subbed last night he gave a big wave to the crowd which also seemed to suggest it could be his last game!

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  • Hail Wor Ashley

    Jan 13, 2016 at 3:25 PM

    Comment #4

    Nah it isn’t. Stilts play, dwells on it or overplays conceding possession in dangerous areas, silly needless fouls around our box. Plus he’s a crock with bad discipline which means he’s barely ever available – £8m would be a great return.

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  • pawl250

    Jan 13, 2016 at 3:25 PM

    Comment #5

    I know Tiote has played well last couple of games but he is not the player he was.

    He is 30 this year, probably on big wages. He is African so will be selected for Afcn next year.

    And yet he has managed 23-24 games in 2 seasons.

    He goes missing as far as I am concerned when it matters.

    I mean he was solid yesterday but I honestly think Anita is a better player and is probably our best Cdm. Example Southampton at the start of the season. Anita went off and Tiote on and it all went wrong in the centre.

    I never used to rate Anita but he has stepped up. Colback is a passenger and should be a back up at best.

    Krul
    Janmaat – Mbemba – Coloccini – Dummett
    Shelvey – Anita
    Sissoko – Wijnaldum – Thauvin
    Mitrovic

    The above is our best team in my opinion.

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  • Hail Wor Ashley

    Jan 13, 2016 at 3:27 PM

    Comment #6

    Anita is stepping up now and coming to terms with the demands of the PL. We’ve just bought 2 CMs and Colback is a steady Eddie.

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  • lukes26

    Jan 13, 2016 at 3:30 PM

    Comment #7

    Put Colback at LB, Shelvey takes his midfield role, and it’s all sorted

    Tiote is finally playing like his old self, theres no chance we sell him

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  • JackButler

    Jan 13, 2016 at 3:30 PM

    Comment #8

    Tiote may not be the player he used to be but he adds more bite in the middle of the park than what Anita and Coldback do combined. Saivet may be a direct replacement for Tiote but selling in and keeping the other two shows the mentality that has ended us up where we are and where we always are come this time of year

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  • John Tudor

    Jan 13, 2016 at 3:31 PM

    Comment #9

    repost as ed bangs the post out quicker than i type
    // Jan 13, 2016 at 3:28 PM

    Just a few words from me on being a lifelong fan of nufc and not as some odious and obnoxious posters that can only resort to that tack.
    all of these are true,some can be verified others not.

    the fairs cup final away leg listening to a dodgy little tranny radio outside in longbenton (as reception was shit inside)with father and his brother now sadly gone, The joy of winning it and i recall the monday morning at break time the whole school singing and chanting,the teachers having to come out to get us in,and a couple of the ring leaders called Toolie and Fletcher.

    camping out for league cup tickets interviewed by ronnie gill pictures in the paper but ending up from first in the que to being halfway up Barrack rd entrance as the pubs chucked out and the swarms arrived to get in first.

    bit of a rant i know but no one takes my memories away,and i have every right to express MY OPINIONS on here without being accused of being from pennywell or hendon.

    you know who you are

    forgive the grammar in not au fait with new fangled tech

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  • pawl250

    Jan 13, 2016 at 3:33 PM

    Comment #10

    Colback is not a left back.

    Tiote likes to spin on the spot.

    Tell you what else Perez was naff last night being greedy amd conceding possession to often.

    Formed Thauvin needs to play with Mitrovic as he is the only natural crosser of the ball.

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  • SPRINGY

    Jan 13, 2016 at 3:37 PM

    Comment #11

    i read the other day that its tiote who wants to leave….if thats the case cant really blame ashley

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  • JackButler

    Jan 13, 2016 at 3:39 PM

    Comment #12

    Even if he wants to leave then allow it in the summer as right now we need everyone helping us get out of this self created bloody mess

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  • pawl250

    Jan 13, 2016 at 3:39 PM

    Comment #13

    John Tudor

    You are right but some of your “opinions” are sarcastic towards other posters.

    So when they pull you on it you throw the toys out the pram.

    I do not think many people on here cannot be called “non supporters” just because they were not old enough to be around for fair cup final.

    I mean I am 28, most of my life as a Newcastle fan has been a mid table/relegation fodder. Yet I still support and go to games, surely this is a bigger testament of being a fan watching the team when they play badly.

    It’s easy to support Keegans era, but watching the team under likes of Kinnear is when you can call yourself hardcore.

    I missed 1 game in the Championship, the only time that I can remember us being in that division. It did not stop me supporting the club.

    I think we all have memories but no reason we cannot get along, and ultimately no need for the sarcastic and sometimes blunt comments.

    I was always told treat those as you wish to me treated. I may write in an aggressive manner I get that, but I never ever mean any harm by it.

    Think I have only ever called one person in my time on this blog.

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  • Goldmbemba

    Jan 13, 2016 at 3:39 PM

    Comment #14

    IMO tiote has had his best years, loved him in his first couple of seasons, especially with cabaye in the middle. I remember someone saying ‘is there a better midfield pair in the league right now than cabaye tiote?’

    and of course he’s legendary for THAT goal against arsenal.

    But come on, whens the last time he’s made headlines the way he used to.

    I think we shouldve kept abeid. hopefully we’ll be ok with the new guys, maybe we’ll even get another player in the summer.

    Or how about converting siem de jong into a DM!!

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  • Goofy

    Jan 13, 2016 at 3:42 PM

    Comment #15

    Van’t believe mist are turning on Perez after one bad game. Some are far to quick to pounce on the negativity wagon. I noticed a fan screaming “you did fcuk all” when he’s being subbed (no I’m not a lip reader, just looked like that what he was saying) The guy’s been one of our best players and is still young, he doesn’t deserve the stick. Maybe rest him for a game or two.

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  • Shaker Shakrah

    Jan 13, 2016 at 3:44 PM

    Comment #16

    Tiote must be sold even for FREEEEEEEEEEEE !!!!!!
    we’ve signed his replacement !!! Saivet
    & we also got Cabaye’s replacement at last !!! Shelvey
    So now we got 2 CMs , why you have to complain ?!

    We need a left back because Dummett can not defend
    and we need a Goalscorer next …..

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  • Our Toon

    Jan 13, 2016 at 3:44 PM

    Comment #17

    Tiote is head and shoulders above colback and Anita, the example given of Anita going off at Southampton is a poor one. It was Tiote’s first game in 6 months after being out injured and was clearly unfit.

    Picks up yellows but wins the ball back more often than not. His yellow yesterday was a sensible one, stopping Rooney from joining the attack as we were being overrun….that’s called taking one for the team.

    The defence look more confident with him in that position

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  • JackButler

    Jan 13, 2016 at 3:44 PM

    Comment #18

    The apathy that surrounds us is frightening, we openly talk about playing this player out of position and that player out of position because we know the owner has us firmly by the short and curlies.

    We all slate Ashley but in reality we are just as responsible as we’ve allowed him to systematically ruin this once great club and beat us into submission

    Pretty sad when you think about it

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  • pawl250

    Jan 13, 2016 at 3:45 PM

    Comment #19

    Siem cannot tackle. He is best passing first time to a willing runner.

    Again maintain

    De Jong/ Perez should play together
    Thauvin/Mitrovic should play together

    Tiote is past it. It’s all good keeping him for a back up but my sources say he is not a great influence behind the scenes. The words “trouble” and “lazy” where often used.

    Supposedly he self declares injury and refuses to play. The staff do not stop him from playing.

    I think he has had a few good games, but we need to move on. If him leaving allows another play in, I would welcome it.

    As I said he will be “injured” in the next game or so.

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  • John Tudor

    Jan 13, 2016 at 3:45 PM

    Comment #20

    yes pawl
    but you can post sarcastic comments if you like the thing i post are just my way of venting the frustrations of this regime and i’m not too fussed if people read them or not but hey ho
    and by the way try following them under seymour westwood dinnis and lee not very nice

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  • JamesToon

    Jan 13, 2016 at 3:45 PM

    Comment #21

    i’d keep tiote till the end of the season as he does solidify our midfield

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  • Our Toon

    Jan 13, 2016 at 3:46 PM

    Comment #22

    As for Perez, I like him but I don’t like how long he keeps the ball for. Yesterday he was shocking which can happen but he’s been like that for last 4 or 5 games!! He needs to start being a team player

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  • Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    Jan 13, 2016 at 3:47 PM

    Comment #23

    @GoldMbemba

    De Jong is going to have to be converted into something !! Hes on about 40 k a week so we are going to struggle to offload him to another league without paying his wages

    I said at the start of the season we should have loaned him out for the first few months and I stand by that now as he would have been fully fit so at least we could have seen what he is capable of !

    At Ajax he played a lot of games as a striker and he can hold the ball up well , is good in the air and has vision (like a poor mans Giroud)so maybe he could play there if Mitrovic is not fit and we dont get another striker ?

    Success with Mclaren in his preferred formation seems to rely on having a player like that as the main striker to hold the ball up so the rest of the team can play off him as we were woeful at the start when Cisse was the main player up front

    Anyone see West Hams goals last night? 2 free kicks out of this world and Payets skill for the other goal was immense !! Going to be a tough game on Saturday

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  • pawl250

    Jan 13, 2016 at 3:48 PM

    Comment #24

    Goofy

    Perez has been playing poorly since he self declared interest from other clubs.

    He holds the ball too long, misses too many chances, and I just think he is over hyped. I am not saying he is a bad player, just he is very average with potential to become a better player. He does need to learn to pass more often though, Gini was through on goal had he made a simple pass, instead he did a weak shot from the edge of the box.

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  • lukes26

    Jan 13, 2016 at 3:48 PM

    Comment #25

    Pawl

    I honestly think Sissoko is our best crosser. He’s definitely the most accurate crosser.

    Thauvin is very good at crossing though.

    Colback has played lb twice at least… and did very well both times. But you might be right, there’s likely a good reason he isnt selected over dummett. LB seems to be an easier position to play, its not really complicated. Colback doesnt seem clever enough for the CM spot.

    Youre right about Ayoze, he’s not a winger or a midfielder.

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  • Shaker Shakrah

    Jan 13, 2016 at 3:48 PM

    Comment #26

    #Goofy

    Really ?!
    When Perez speaks about how he is proud to be linked with Man Utd and he play that BAD against them
    He deserve EVERYTHING …!
    It’s time for him to warm up the bench and NO
    he is not our best player , he went backwards from last season .

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  • Our Toon

    Jan 13, 2016 at 3:48 PM

    Comment #27

    A player that’s past it doesn’t perform like he did against Arsenal and man utd like he has. Arsenal arguably the 2nd best midfield in terms of form and he ran the show!!

    Yesterday Herrera barely got a kick, 30m quid player. Past it is extreme…..you only have to look at the results without Tiote to realise the affect he has

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  • JackButler

    Jan 13, 2016 at 3:48 PM

    Comment #28

    Pawl

    Major issue with who you want to see paired up and that’s SDJ is never fit for more than five minutes and Thauvin is another Carr special.

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  • HKTP

    Jan 13, 2016 at 3:49 PM

    Comment #29

    The lad had a phenomenal first season with us, he stalled as he watched Cabaye dictate play and assumed he could do the same. His strength has always been to break up play and set up a counter attack but he decides to mince about and put the defence under greater pressure, the exact opposite of what he is there to do.
    Got to sell him, a couple of recent decent games but still a liability.

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Jan 13, 2016 at 3:49 PM

    Comment #30

    Hi JB…long time no see 🙂

    You just echoed what I have been saying for a long time!

    Ed…you will basically get 5 more games from Tiote before summer. He was never worth keeping especially now that we have signed two CM.

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  • SPRINGY

    Jan 13, 2016 at 3:51 PM

    Comment #31

    goofy
    i had a go at his performance but have’nt turned on the lad and like you believe he needs a rest…..but like i said last night or this morning he’s been a shining light in a shower of shite this season and last but he had a bad game everybody will from time to time…he may need a bit of a rest but if he’s picked for sat he’ll pick himself up,dust himself down and probs have a blinder…truth is macca should of taken him of earlier as it just was’nt his night……its done now move on to sat

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  • custurd

    Jan 13, 2016 at 3:51 PM

    Comment #32

    Last year we virtually gave away out best left back, centre back and attacker in Santon, Mbiwa and Ben Arfa, which left us woefully short of quality and quantity in those positions. Why should this year be any different?

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  • Goofy

    Jan 13, 2016 at 3:53 PM

    Comment #33

    Don’t know if Carrol’s injury was a bad tackle or pulled up. If he pulled up then he really is a true Geordie. He knew he’d have a grest chance to score against us on Saturday but probably would kill him to score against us, like Chopra for Scumberland, straight through on goal and shot it 10 yards wide deliberately HWTL 😀

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  • Graeme

    Jan 13, 2016 at 3:55 PM

    Comment #34

    Sky Sports claim Shanghai have met the £8 Million asking price for Tiote!!!

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  • Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    Jan 13, 2016 at 3:56 PM

    Comment #35

    @custurd

    Still not replaced Santon or Ben Arfa yet Mbiwa has been replaced by Mbemba possibly ….

    Anyone think it might be time to rest Perez and put Gouffran the warrior at left wing again ? Na me neither…..

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  • Goofy

    Jan 13, 2016 at 3:57 PM

    Comment #36

    Agreed Perez did have a stinker and Mclaren should’ve subbed him early on. Hopefully your right and he’ll nang a few in on Saturday 🙂

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  • JackButler

    Jan 13, 2016 at 3:57 PM

    Comment #37

    Jesper my friend how are you?

    Been a while 🙂

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  • lukes26

    Jan 13, 2016 at 3:58 PM

    Comment #38

    Santon sits on the bench consistently at Inter, playing in a lesser league
    Mbiwa couldnt cut it at Roma
    Ben Arfa couldnt cut the EPL at Hull, yes, Hull

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  • lukes26

    Jan 13, 2016 at 3:59 PM

    Comment #39

    8 million for tiote! nevermind what I said earlier, sell! sell!

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  • SPRINGY

    Jan 13, 2016 at 4:00 PM

    Comment #40

    newsnow saying newcastle pushing for townsend and already have a fitness program in place to get his sharpness back quicker….still negotiating tho

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