Breaking News – French Winger Wants Return To France


French Newspaper L`Equipe and local Marseille paper La Provence are both reporting today that Florian Thauvin could be headed to France and back to former club Marseille, after what has been a disastrous move for him to Newcastle United – orchestrated by Chief Scout Graham Carr.

He was signed for an inflated price of about £12M after he had a poor season in France – but Newcastle still overpaid for him.

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Florian  Thauvin – returning to Marseille?

The French papers are reporting that negotiations are ongoing for Thauvin to return to his former club on a loan deal to the end of the season, after he has failed to settle and is not getting regular football on Tyneside.

Maybe Newcastle can use this as a means of getting a player from Marseille in return on loan – maybe Michy Batshuayi?

It looks like it’s Florian himself who is trying to force the move back to France and he just hasn’t fitted in at Newcastle and doesn’t seem to want to try to do that any longer.

It would be up to Steve McClaren to decide whether he will allow the Frenchman to leave, after all he is still acclimatizing to the Premier League and if he can do that he would be a better player for it.

It looks like Marseille are willing to do the deal and we have to believe Thauvin’s agent has been in contact with the French club before now,  testing the waters to see if they would be willing to do a deal.

Newcastle are said to be coming up with an answer today to the young Frenchman – and we wouldn’t be surprised is they let him return to France.

But then in the summer Newcastle could stand to lose quite a bit on the player because no club would be willing to give £12M to Newcastle for a player who has failed in England.

It looks like it’s been a poor deal for everybody concerned.

We were always asking the question why did Newcastle think this deal would work after a similar player to Thauvin in both physique and style –  Remy Cabella – had failed last season?

We should hear more about this today.

It didn’t help anybody or anything when fans booed the young Frenchman during the end of the game at Watford that we lost 1-0 in the 3rd round of the FA Cup.

It’s been a poor deal made by Graham Carr – that’s for sure.

Comments welcome.



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147 comments so far

  • SPRINGY

    Jan 14, 2016 at 12:54 PM

    Comment #1

    dream on ed!

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 14, 2016 at 12:55 PM

    Comment #2

    Really not sure about what the deals are with those two, surely we couldn’t have around 25M worth of talent out on loan, not that anyone in the world pay that for them anymore. Definitely something amiss there like.
    Someone mentioned the FFP the other day, does that still exist since ironically the two most corrupt men in World football came up with the idea ?

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  • richyg01

    Jan 14, 2016 at 12:56 PM

    Comment #3

    Not of real advantage to NUFC in this window as it will be a loan, and we will have to foot some of his wage bill.

    Also, is it a coincidence that Cabella is now ‘injured’ only a couple of games away from OM being due to pay us the agreed transfer fee to take him permanently?

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  • Hail Wor Ashley

    Jan 14, 2016 at 12:59 PM

    Comment #4

    Sign Cabella for 8 – sell for 6

    Sign Thauvin for 12 – sell for 6

    Pretty much written a cheque for £8m to Marseille if that happens. Genius Carr.

    To make matters worse, both were bought to replace the best talent we’ve had over the last 10 years who we let go on a free. Remarkable.

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  • solano38

    Jan 14, 2016 at 1:00 PM

    Comment #5

    L’Equipe also say that Lille are interested in Gouffran.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 14, 2016 at 1:00 PM

    Comment #6

    Richy
    From NUFC.com
    It remains to be seen whether United are interested in releasing Thauvin, but the fate of fellow midfielder Cabella seems unrelated to that decision.

    He’s also injured at present but although loaned out to OM as part of the Thauvin acquisition, the 16 Ligue 1 appearances Cabella has made are believed to have triggered the clause turning the temporary deal into a permanent switch (although neither club have yet confirmed that).

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 14, 2016 at 1:02 PM

    Comment #8

    All the product of a process dreamed up from the guy you hail.
    Funny old world.

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  • Hail Wor Ashley

    Jan 14, 2016 at 1:03 PM

    Comment #9

    Yeah and Cabella’s latest tweet 18 hours ago is a row of angry face emojis. Could be anything, but I’m sure it’s related to his transfer and/or Thauvin’s mistreatment, akin to his, in his eyes.

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  • Hail Wor Ashley

    Jan 14, 2016 at 1:07 PM

    Comment #10

    I thought the subs on and selection of bench was odd the other night. Definitely a bit of the shop window strategy went in to the decisions. Gouffran on in CM, Marveaux on the bench, Toney coming on – all reminders to other clubs I think.

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  • Bambams

    Jan 14, 2016 at 1:08 PM

    Comment #11

    Makes you wonder if Carr ‘declares’ all his earnings

    Not having a pop at Thauvin and it’s not his fault he cost us so much – but what did our ‘all seeing professional board’ see in him.

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  • richyg01

    Jan 14, 2016 at 1:09 PM

    Comment #12

    @10.

    With our current team, I really do think that a fit Marv could be a god-send to us down the wing.

    We have no end product really, we either play through the middle or have a striker out on the wing trying to put a cross into an empty box.

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  • Mag52

    Jan 14, 2016 at 1:11 PM

    Comment #13

    This Thauvin business has to be bad news for Carr.
    Put him out to graze Ashley.

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  • banjax

    Jan 14, 2016 at 1:18 PM

    Comment #14

    Carr’s and his scouting choices has a lot to answer for. He has cost Mike Ashley £millions in lost transfer values particularly in the French market and for me his services should be terminated forthwith.

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  • Our Toon

    Jan 14, 2016 at 1:22 PM

    Comment #15

    Has the lad been given a fair crack yet? I can see why he wants out, young / bench warming and not getting game time to adapt. Give him a few games rather than 5mins here and 2 mins there!! Is this failings of the scout or failings of the manager who hasn’t managed to integrate him properly by messing him around.

    I’ll get slated for that comment but he’s had less than 2 games worth of playing time in the league….Some take longer than others to settle!!

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  • Bambams

    Jan 14, 2016 at 1:23 PM

    Comment #16

    You hear about ‘agents fees’ but never ‘scouts fees’. Aye he will be on a wage with Newcastle but what’s to stop clubs offering little incentives to scouts to move players they no longer want.
    Just look at the head of FIFA….It happens.
    To me Thauvin is no better suited than Cabella was….Just don’t know why we didn’t learn from that mistake.
    Not suggesting Carr is corrupt but maybe he can be swayed towards certain players we wouldn’t normally look at
    Imo

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  • smoke beer, drink tabs

    Jan 14, 2016 at 1:24 PM

    Comment #17

    If thauvin goes back then Carr needs to go. 25m spent on cabella and thauvin and they both go back to clubs on loan? 25m would have bought us a good striker and centre half instead of 2 wingers that we didn’t need

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  • hibbitt

    Jan 14, 2016 at 1:25 PM

    Comment #18

    our toon who would drop to play him ?

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  • richyg01

    Jan 14, 2016 at 1:26 PM

    Comment #19

    Is it that the scouting is bad?

    There is a difference in pace and playing style between other leagues/countries and the EPL, we all know that.

    So a player can look brilliant playing in another league, but bring them to the EPL and they need time to adjust either their style of play or their physique.

    The problem with Newcastle, is we buy players if/when we have to. When we buy them players, we do not give them time to bed in or adapt, we expect them to continue how they left off playing in their last YouTube video compilation.

    So, I dont think the scouting is as much of the issue, just the team management and also our league position do not help us to give players the time they need.

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  • ochytoon

    Jan 14, 2016 at 1:26 PM

    Comment #20

    Vidic is not worth a punt, his legs have gone. Been poor for Inter

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  • MadisonToon

    Jan 14, 2016 at 1:27 PM

    Comment #21

    Lots of people calling for Carr’s head, but what’s your alternative? Do you know that other clubs are faring consistently better in the transfer market on a similar setup with a different chief scout? Who would you replace Carr with? It’s easy to call for a scalp without considering the ramifications.

    I’m not saying Carr is a great scout or should stay, but judgments without adequate comparisons (or replacements) aren’t useful.

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  • Our Toon

    Jan 14, 2016 at 1:28 PM

    Comment #22

    Hibbit

    Prior to Shelvey joining I would have dropped Perez, pushed Gini in no 10 role, started him in FA cup

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  • Hail Wor Ashley

    Jan 14, 2016 at 1:29 PM

    Comment #23

    I just don’t know what possessed Carr to buy Thauvin on the back of Cablla’s failure. They are strikingly similar in style, build, speed (not very quick, like Perez, who some seem to think is quick), technical ability, intelligence, work rate. Both very average with no outstanding attributes, physically or technically. Obertan contributes more than both and that says something!

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  • LGFUAD21

    Jan 14, 2016 at 1:29 PM

    Comment #24

    It was a stupid transfer in the first place.

    Cabella was excelling in France when we signed him.

    Thauvin was raw talent failing miserably in France. Voted into worst team of the year in L’Equipe I believe.

    We’ll loose major money on this transfer. Surely questions have to be asked. Especially after the amount Carr scouted him. Surely he knew he’d flop.

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  • hibbitt

    Jan 14, 2016 at 1:36 PM

    Comment #25

    my big problem is with carr being on the board he should do one job and one job only in effect he is a board member ….director of football……chief scout……with no accountability not a good idea this makes him the most powerful man at the club

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  • richyg01

    Jan 14, 2016 at 1:38 PM

    Comment #26

    Another potential striker to cross of the list of ‘targets’

    SSN:
    “Sean Dyche does not fear losing Burnley’s record signing Andre Gray this month – mainly because regulations stipulate he cannot play for another club this season.”

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  • reilly

    Jan 14, 2016 at 1:40 PM

    Comment #27

    everyone in france knew this kid wouldnt make it in the prem,carr and charnley had there pants pulled down by OM.or a few back handers

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  • Hail Wor Ashley

    Jan 14, 2016 at 1:40 PM

    Comment #28

    Carr doesn’t need firing, he just needs to be brought down a peg back in to the traditional chief scout role and allow the manager to wield the most power on transfers. It’s ridiculous having a scout sign players the management isn’t keen on and reluctantly accepts.

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  • nightfa11

    Jan 14, 2016 at 1:41 PM

    Comment #29

    What did you expect.. Mclaren only picks his favourites..Thauvin isnt one of them..and when he gets 5 minutes of game time..”the best fans in the world” booo him..

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  • BeeGuy

    Jan 14, 2016 at 1:41 PM

    Comment #30

    This news could be the opening gambit for the triumphant return of Nile Ranger.

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  • nightfa11

    Jan 14, 2016 at 1:46 PM

    Comment #31

    Hail wor Ashley

    Thats true, But for a manager to gain that right he needs to prove he knows wtf hes doing.. Mclaren is as limited as potato

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  • hibbitt

    Jan 14, 2016 at 1:47 PM

    Comment #32

    hail
    very true especially when it will be the the manager who stands or falls on carr’s decisions

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 14, 2016 at 1:48 PM

    Comment #33

    Round we go again. Like Carr just walked into work one day and said “right, from now on, I’m deciding, the transfer policy, style of play and who the manager plays, if you don’t like it, then ram it”
    Mikey just sat there meekly and said “right Graeme, get on with it”

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  • Our Toon

    Jan 14, 2016 at 1:53 PM

    Comment #34

    Jail

    That’s what cracks me up about this, it’s all Carr this and that. He doesn’t sign the cheques, he didn’t magically walk into this position…..it all stems from Ashley

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  • lesh

    Jan 14, 2016 at 1:53 PM

    Comment #35

    Has Carr been getting ‘commission’ on some of his deals?

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  • hibbitt

    Jan 14, 2016 at 1:54 PM

    Comment #36

    jail
    if that was aimed at me i know who the problem is but this is the situation as it stands carr has to much power who gave him that power is another major problem…………ashley out

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  • AncientC

    Jan 14, 2016 at 1:55 PM

    Comment #37

    ‘when he gets 5 minutes of game time..”the best fans in the world” booo him..’

    Thauvin came on after 52 minutes, and the boos happened at the end of the game after the side kept missing repeated golden opportunities. Not quite “5 minutes” and not quite the innocent party either.

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  • nightfa11

    Jan 14, 2016 at 1:56 PM

    Comment #38

    Ashley trusts carr more than he trusts mclaren.. And I support Ashley with his decision.. Mclaren proved nothing yet, while carr did bring some world class players for peanuts..

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 14, 2016 at 1:58 PM

    Comment #39

    No hibbit it wasn’t, it was aimed at the poster formerly known as Catchys pet lip, who claims to hail wor Ashley while constantly moaning about things that can ultimately only be changed by the very man he hails.

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  • carl

    Jan 14, 2016 at 1:58 PM

    Comment #40

    Feeling Judgmental? We just don’t know. Let he without sin cast the first stone.

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