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Newcastle Launch All-Out Effort To Sign English Striker This Week

11:31 pm, Monday, January 18th, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 76 Comments

News tonight that Newcastle United owner Mike Ashley has given the go ahead for Newcastle to go after West Brom striker Saido Berahino who was target of ours in the summer when we are supposed to have bid £18M for the striker.

Newcastle are 3rd bottom again after Swansea´s good 1-0 at home to Watford tonight and we are largely in trouble because of the many chances we are missing in games since we had the two massive successive wins against Liverpool and Tottenham.

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Saido Berahino – all-out effort by Newcastle to sign this striker

We now need to get a lot more wins if we are to survive and draws will not help us too much – although of course we will take the point if that´s all we can get in any one game.

It´s not that we are not making the chances either, but we are simply not converting enough of them – and one good striker can help us solve that problem.

Even on Saturday in the second half we had about three excellent chances to score but missed them all.

Newcastle have been in contact with West Brom asking how much they want for Berahino and we would expect Newcastle to bid this week more than the £18M we bid last summer, but whether that offer will be accepted is a good question.

Tottenham have balked at the price being asked for the 22 year-old England U21 striker, but with our Premier League status in danger with jus 16 games to play – we could see Newcastle try to clinch the deal this week by getting closer to the £25M West Brom seem to be asking for their young English striker.

Saido has played 85 Premier League games for West Brom with 22 goals and 6 assists, so he could start producing for Newcastle almost immediately – and that´s what we need from players we sign this month.

There´s a decent chance we can sign Sadio Berahino this week if we bid high enough.

That would help raise the spirits of Newcastle fans everywhere and give us a more than decent chance of being a Premier League club next season.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.



Tags: Newcastle News · Recruitment · Scouting Network · Transfer News and Rumours · Transfer Target




76 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Jan 18, 2016 at 11:35 PM

    Lots of rumours about him being fancied by Chelsea cant see it myself to be honest I think we can get him whether we want to or not due to his attitude before !

  • 2 lesh // Jan 18, 2016 at 11:35 PM

    Spurs balked st the price were asking and hence are digging in on Townsend at £14.

    This has all the makings of a Mexican stand off – who blinks first – Ashley or Levy?

  • 3 lesh // Jan 18, 2016 at 11:37 PM

    For clarity

    Spurs were balking at WBA’s asking price.

  • 4 BUDGIE10 // Jan 18, 2016 at 11:41 PM

    Am I the only one that doesn’t rate him at that kind of money. I live in the midlands and baggies fans are laughing at us spending that kind of money.
    We must go for Wilfried Bony

  • 5 Munster Mag // Jan 18, 2016 at 11:41 PM

    Re saivet, no concerns there. Think he will do well and i can lay off Carr for a while! I think we will get berahino too. After that and the summer we can lay off ashley for now. Steve has to make it work but shelvey was a big political win for him and will give him great confidence.

  • 6 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Jan 18, 2016 at 11:41 PM

    @Lesh

    It would appear Spurs want to use the Townsend money to buy Saido but I think we might be trying to get him as well so its a bit of gamesmanship which we never usually get involved in with other premiership teams under Ashley because we usually lose out because we cant “compete”

  • 7 jimmysmith // Jan 18, 2016 at 11:45 PM

    Wenger wouldn’t pay 25 million for Berahino, would he? That’s normally a pretty good barometre. I know we need a good young striker, but that really is a whole lot of dough for a player who still hasn’t fulfilled his potential.

    Shelvey was a great buy at 12. Townsend would be for similar money. But Berahino for 25, 80 odd games, 20 goals and a handful of assists and not a full International. Someones head would have to go on the chopping block if that one didn’t work out. Which it easily couldn’t.

  • 8 nufc 11 // Jan 18, 2016 at 11:58 PM

    Hernandez would be cheaper.

  • 9 BandB // Jan 19, 2016 at 12:09 AM

    The Mirror says bid is £15m. They don’t always get accurate facts though, do they?

    We need a goal scorer.
    For all the talk of onwards and upwards, we have five points from our last six games.
    That’s still bottom three of the form table as well as bottom three of the league.
    I hope there is no silly talk of “not resting on our laurels” at the press conference later this week.
    We got a last gasp equaliser against Man Utd and just saw it out against West Ham, and that was us playing very well.

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/newcastle-launch-15million-bid-saido-7201610

  • 10 YoungMagpieFromBurnley // Jan 19, 2016 at 12:18 AM

    Wasn’t Tiote bought for £4.5 million? (not 100% sure) Saivet could be his younger replacement. Feel like this one is a good bit of business, looks like the club are finally learning from all there lessons.

  • 11 loonie-toon // Jan 19, 2016 at 12:41 AM

    B good signing if we get berahino threw door 25 mill a lot though mayb we’re gunner go for him before we pay spurs for Townsend so spurs don’t steal him from under r noses

  • 12 JP...from The Rock // Jan 19, 2016 at 12:43 AM

    I don’t know what Beranhino has done to warrent a £25m transfer fee but I don’t really care as long as he plays well for us. We need quick players with an eye for goal and a pass. Both Townsend and Berahino fit thst model and we should do what we can to get them. If not Berahino we should go for Hernandez. Thst lil’ mexican is doing it again and he really is one of the most under rated players out there. He’s quick can pass and shoot very well and has premier league experience. He ticks all the boxes for me. I still can’t believe we have never been interested in signing him- ever! I have always rated chicharito very highly and I would even prefer him to Berahino who could be very much hit or miss.

    What is certain is we have to act quickly as once again we find ourselves at the foot of the table, we need to secure the signings to guarantee us the points we so desperately need ASAP!

  • 13 loonie-toon // Jan 19, 2016 at 12:44 AM

    Sayin in daily star that we’re hopin have Townsend and berahino threw door this week before we line up against watford

  • 14 JP...from The Rock // Jan 19, 2016 at 12:46 AM

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3wEH6eQjkrQ

    Check out this link of Townsend and I think he would work wonders for us in black n white. We need him and a striker of quality fast and then we would easily clinch the points to save us from these stressful times.

  • 15 lochinvar // Jan 19, 2016 at 1:25 AM

    Berahinio for £25m and up pops the story ( Independent ? ) that Napoli will pay that for Sissoko ? Ashley likes Swop Shop.
    Bryam off to West Ham ( offering first team place ) not Everton.
    Spurs after Ben Yedder for only £7.5m and might rake in twice that from us for Townsend. Suggest we just pay £10m for him and Levy with Townsend.
    Could get messy.

  • 16 Derek // Jan 19, 2016 at 1:43 AM

    If we can get either Townsend, Berahino or Hernandez I’d be happy to have any of them replace Sissoko and then ~20m going toward a CB AND a LB.

  • 17 lesh // Jan 19, 2016 at 1:48 AM

    Lee B

    I’m not convinced we’re really after Berhino and wouldn’t be surprised to see a better striker come in.

    Whatever games are being played out, it’s gonna be an interesting close to the window.

    I just hope that we win games in the meantime!

  • 18 shaun83 // Jan 19, 2016 at 1:59 AM

    Is it just me or can anyone else not see where a new striker would fit? I know mitrovic not scoring but so much revolved around him last couple of games, can’t see a striker who plays off the shoulder on his own fitting atm, maybe if sissoko goes, not object to that, and one or both Townsend and berhinio can play there

  • 19 SPRINGY // Jan 19, 2016 at 2:06 AM

    if sissoko goes he might be tempted to 3-5-2….
    ——————————elliot——————————
    ———mbemba———colo———–dummett——–
    janmaat———–shelvey—–saivet———–colback
    ——————————gini——————————-
    ——————-mitro———-perez/berahino———
    few players are interchangable as well….just an idea

  • 20 toonicle // Jan 19, 2016 at 2:06 AM

    Shaun I was just going to say the same. We get Berahino and then what? It’s not like we’re going to play 2 up front now that we are finally gelling. Mitrovic would sit on the bench? That’s not going to help him get up to speed.

  • 21 SPRINGY // Jan 19, 2016 at 2:11 AM

    soccer sauce saying toon are confident of getting there man even tho there is plenty interest in berahino…..talks on going

  • 22 toonincheek // Jan 19, 2016 at 2:42 AM

    Sav // Jan 19, 2016 at 12:28 AM

    Berahino is a brat and Townsend a whinger, too. We must buy better character and better players than this pair.

    Agreed – don’t like the idea of either of them in B&W.
    For sure they are both capable of top performances, but consistency, working as part of a team – don’t think so.

  • 23 JP...from The Rock // Jan 19, 2016 at 2:49 AM

    We don’t have to sell to fit players in. We need more strength in depth. Isn’t that what we’ve always wanted? Competition for places all over the park. With Berahino and Townsend it will give us that and it will make the likes of Sissoko and co who are regular starters to try even harder as not to lose their starting spot in the team.

    I am all for us getting more players in. But I cannot understand how all of a sudden some are complaining saying we don’t need this and that and we’re going to sell this and that.

    Maybe this was the 3 window plan add depth in all departments. Maybe in the summer we finally see the defense considerably bolstered up with the likes of Saylor and Willo out of contract.

    I for one am really excited these days when it comes to transfer windows unlike all the past seasons under Ashley. The only main worry is our league position though, we need the points and these signings will go a long way in helping us secure survival.

  • 24 Derek // Jan 19, 2016 at 2:54 AM

    Maybe also something like 4-2-1-3,

    ________________Elliot______________
    Janmaat__Mbemba__Colo__Dummet/Colback
    ___________Shelvey____Saivet________
    ______________Wijnaldum____________
    Townsend/Berahino_Mitrovic__Perez/Aarons

    Mitro still the central striker but with attacking support on the wings. Could experiment with playing wingers on the left or right depending who we get and how they adapt to crossing, cutting back in and shooting etc.

  • 25 The overrated Frenchman // Jan 19, 2016 at 3:04 AM

    If Pochinetto wants Berahino, that’s enough of an endorsement for me to think we should seriously be after him. The Spurs manager has more football smarts than Ashley, Charnley, Carr and McClaren put together.

  • 26 Derek // Jan 19, 2016 at 3:08 AM

    JP,

    I think it’s the fact that fans are used to seeing players sold when they are at their peak value as that’s how Ashley works. They are seeing the realistic outcome that improving the squad on Ashley’s terms means to minimise net spend while acquiring young potential.

    That means that in Ashley’s eyes, the likes of Sissoko sitting on the bench is money going down the drain.

    Besides, Sissoko has been thought to be going elsewhere for the last few windows, even he has expressed his desire to go to a CL club. I don’t think keeping him here as a substitute is going to make him show more passion and commitment to the club, especially when he is already thinking of going other places.

  • 27 The overrated Frenchman // Jan 19, 2016 at 3:19 AM

    Why is Sissoko suddenly going to become a substitute? I think he’s started every game he’s played. Shelvey and Saivet make no difference, and I was be amazed if he was replaced as a starter by Townsend. Perez is more likely to give way. And if McClaren starts Anita or Colback ahead of Sissoko he is a stupid as he looks.

  • 28 The overrated Frenchman // Jan 19, 2016 at 3:23 AM

    *”would be amazed”, not “was”. Apologies for re-living the cringe-worthy days of Pardew grammar…

  • 29 toonincheek // Jan 19, 2016 at 3:35 AM

    Forgiven – as you have spelt grammar correctly.

    But – just who IS is the overrated Frenchman?
    Or should that be …men?

  • 30 Derek // Jan 19, 2016 at 3:41 AM

    If we are seriously looking at a player like Townsend, a left footer who plays on the right wing and likes to cut in, then it suggests he will be competing for Sissoko’s position, not on the left wing where Sissoko doesn’t play.

    Not saying he will definitely replace Sissoko, but why would we want a player like Townsend to play on the left which is not his natural position?

  • 31 The overrated Frenchman // Jan 19, 2016 at 4:10 AM

    toonincheek@29. That’s a good question. “The overrated Frenchman” is not a single individual as such. Not on an ongoing basis anyway. It’s more of a state of being which can be applied to one or more Frenchmen at certain times, but still encompasses them all as an overarching concept.

  • 32 jimmysmith // Jan 19, 2016 at 4:32 AM

    Cabaye and Debuchey were not overrated. I don’t think Sissoko is either, and certainly not at the price we got him for. Remy would have been a wonderful signing. The others have essentially been various degrees of disappointing, but it’s the demands of the league and the weight of the shirt that catches them out, rather than the hype that comes with them.

    The moniker “The Overrated Chief Scout” might have a greater ring of truth, but it’s true enough we’ve signed a few frenchmen that haven’t lived up to our hopes and expectations.

    Then again, hope and realisation is an all too common theme in all of life endeavours, as far as I can tell.

    C’est la vie.

  • 33 nut meg // Jan 19, 2016 at 4:33 AM

    JP from the rock @14
    That video of Townsend doesn’t really carry much weight with me as it’s from 2011-14. He was out on loan for most of that time to lower league teams such as Watford,Millwall,Leeds,Birmingham & QPR. Very little,if any PL clips shown.

  • 34 toonincheek // Jan 19, 2016 at 5:01 AM

    nut meg –
    I watched the video – some impressive stuff.
    Couldn’t reconcile the goals/assists stats that I’ve seen quoted with the video, but your comment explains it, I think – – the stats relate to PL only.

  • 35 toonincheek // Jan 19, 2016 at 5:18 AM

    Just been watching the full second half – the stream I had was freezing too much to get a true impression.

    We dominated 2nd half as well – just not quite so much as the 1st half. West Ham created a few incidents but little goal threat.

    Great to see us surging forward in numbers.
    We created many opportunities and many near-opportunities – we could have won by 5.

    Mitro does a lot of good work – definitely worth his place. Could have had a hat-trick. The goals will come.

    Wini – outstanding.

    Shelvey – great to have a player in the middle that other players can find easily (positioning and appearance) and trust to give the ball.

    Saivet – good performance, effective. Hard to catch the eye in his position. Better than I thought from comments I read.

    Looks like two top signings and an excellent all-round performance from the team – let’s have more of the same at Watford and improve out goal difference.

  • 36 will die for the toon army // Jan 19, 2016 at 5:29 AM

    So we r all in for Berahino and Townsend.

    Good luck to Charnely, POUND for POUND policy hope u get the best deals for those guys.

  • 37 will die for the toon army // Jan 19, 2016 at 5:32 AM

    toonincheek

    It was good football all round. Keeping the goals aside, Mitrovic has been a success at the club the goals will come. What he does with his hold up play iz the hardest thing in the EPL.

    we always complained abt Cisse not holding play well.

    Mitrovic is my No.1 striker the goals Will come

  • 38 toonincheek // Jan 19, 2016 at 5:34 AM

    Forgot to add –

    Mbemba was excellent as well – except for one misjudgement. Paid a high price for a small error.

  • 39 Ron Knee // Jan 19, 2016 at 5:56 AM

    “Henri Saivet has revealed that he spoke with both Gabriel Obertan and Yoan Gouffran before signing for Newcastle United – and that both players only had positive things to say about the club.” !!!

  • 40 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 19, 2016 at 6:00 AM

    Ron…that’s nice to hear I suppose 😉

    …a surprise through but nice to hear!

  • 41 Ron Knee // Jan 19, 2016 at 6:01 AM

    jesper

    What an endorsement from two Newcastle legends!

  • 42 nut meg // Jan 19, 2016 at 6:04 AM

    Ron
    He’s pally with Lacazette,he might have a word in his lug.

  • 43 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 19, 2016 at 6:05 AM

    Would much prefer Phillips to Townsend. They have virtually the same experience in the Prem, Townsend has played just 200 more minutes, Phillips has the same number of goals and nearly double the assists, yet Phillips was in 2 relegated sides compared to Townsend pushing for Europe.

    £5million or £14million, an absolute no brainer. Phillips is the better crosser, and the better finisher of the two. Phillips prefers to get the ball in early if the opportunity is there, whereas Townsend prefers to cut inside. Phillips would be a much better fit for us than Townsend.

    Still though, both are right wingers, so do we play them out of position? Or does our formation change and Sissoko moves position? Why are we looking for right wingers when it is wide left where we are playing people out of position?

  • 44 SUTTY1978 // Jan 19, 2016 at 6:19 AM

    Just got to say something to those who would be happy seeing Sissoko go, are you frickin nuts? If Sissoko goes we will be relegated, no if’s or buts. He is incredibly important to the way we play and is a catalyst for the majority of the attacks we have. If he goes or gets injured then we’re doomed!
    Townsend isn’t fit to lace Sissoko’s boots and Berahino was a one season wonder whose good times ended a year about 18 months ago

  • 45 SUTTY1978 // Jan 19, 2016 at 6:21 AM

    Also just a comment on our scouting system. I thought we were supposed to compile a dossier on targets with a large part of that being related to the character of the player and making sure they wouldn’t cause trouble. If so theres no bloody way we should be looking at Bera or Townsend.

  • 46 expatmag // Jan 19, 2016 at 6:21 AM

    looking at the Berahino situation, both ourselves and Spurs play a similar 4231 system to a main centre forward, Mitrovic and Kane. Kane is a lot more mobile than Mit but their main attributes are getting the likes of Erikson Lamela and co. up in support and scoring goals. They also have the likes of that Korean lad and the french lad they signed from Lyon. Where would they fit Berahino in?

    To be honest, the only major difference between us and Spurs in quality NOW is the defence.

  • 47 SUTTY1978 // Jan 19, 2016 at 6:24 AM

    Lil, all good and valid points. I’m sure theres a much better fit out there than both to play LW for us so doesn’t make too much sense. Really hope McClaren isnt looking at playing inverted wingers with Mitro up top, that would be a major waste

  • 48 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 19, 2016 at 6:28 AM

    Expat,
    Berahinho can play out wide, I think he fits into the 3 behind the main ma, much like where Perez is currently playing for us. It would also give us more options to push to a more attacking style at home against weaker sides – playing 3 up top with Perez/Berahinho/Arma/Aarons either side of Mitro.

    It would also gives us a plan b if plan a isn’t working, going 2 up top, or using Berahinho’s pace and reshuffling the midfield.

  • 49 expatmag // Jan 19, 2016 at 6:29 AM

    Lil

    I dont want either to be honest.

    You might laugh at this but with a CF like Mitrovic who I am cobvibced will be a top top striker in time, we need wingers who can take on full backs and cross a ball as well as tracking back.

    Aiden McGeady fits the bill perfectly

  • 50 JDdubai // Jan 19, 2016 at 6:30 AM

    If w accept that Mitro needs to be there to link everything together and Wini needs to stay as the 10, then the only position available for Townsend or Berahino would be wide left and Perez becomes backup to LW and Wini.

    Cant see Sissoko, Wini or Mitro dropping out the first team right now. Though if Sissoko was to leave then it opens it up a bit more.

    Obviously we need more than 1 player per position, but both townsend and Berahino want to leave their clubs to get games. Cant see both agreeing to switch unless they are told they will be starters for us.

  • 51 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 19, 2016 at 6:35 AM

    Sutty,
    Signing Townsend would pretty much condemn Mitro to no goals, much like it did to Soldado who was starved of service when he first joined by a young Spurs winger who constantly cut inside and blazed high and wide until at the 57th (or around there) attempt one went in and the media heralded him as a world beater……

    Phillips would offer far greater service to Mitro. Redknapp didn’t seem to be keen on him, but once Ramsey brought him back into the side regularly last year he got 8 assists and 3 goals in 14 games. All from the right. He would be ideal for Mitro, but on the right not the left! But where does that leave Sissoko?

    He can’t play alongside Shelvey, he isn’t technically good enough, but at the same time he carries the ball well out wide, but he doesn’t have the delivery that Phillips has. I think we would most likely try and fit Phillips or Townsend on to the left, and it would flop. Phillips for £5million as competition for Sissoko though would be a good move.

  • 52 expatmag // Jan 19, 2016 at 6:37 AM

    Lil

    To be honest, I havent seen much of the lad play so I really cannot form an opinion.

    However, I really loved the way Mitro played against both MU and WHU this week. Whilst his finishing was off, his movement, control, strength, guile and ability to bring others into the game were crucial to us playing so well.

    Service him from both flanks will only make him more dangerous and dare I say it, but who needs Berahino when Wijnaldum is looking Lampardish in the 10 role.

  • 53 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 19, 2016 at 6:41 AM

    Expat,
    I’d take Berahinho, but not Townsend. Berahinho has versatility (and ability) that Townsend doesn’t. I do think it is hard to see a place where both would fit in at the club as JDDubai says. I think Berahinho and Phillips is a much better fit and gives us greater options moving forward.

    I fully agree on Mitro, stick a player like Remy, Austin or Berahinho up there and we have to change our entire style of play as Mitro allows them to get forward and brings players in to the game. He is integral to our play at the moment.

  • 54 expatmag // Jan 19, 2016 at 6:42 AM

    Dubai

    Agreed. I cannot see where either will fit in if we play to our existing players strengths.

    There are quality pacy wingers out there plus we have Riviere who has NEVER been played in his correct position of wide left.

    It is clear where our problems lie. We have gone domeway to addressing them with the arrival if Shelvey but we now need a dominant partner for Mbemba and a quality left back.

    I would rather the money spent there

  • 55 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 19, 2016 at 6:44 AM

    Expat,
    Phillips would offer more service then we give Mitro at the moment, but it would mean moving Sissoko who has started to look a bit more consistent (poorer against West Ham, but prior to that a few good performances in a row). Phillips coming off the bench in games could work well for us, or incase Sissoko picks up a knock or suspension we would have a replacement ready to come in.

    We need service coming from the left, Dummet is a poor crosser as is Haidara when fit. Gini and Perez either cut inside or take too long trying to work it back onto their right to deliver dangerous balls regularly. Tom Ince could be a shout for the left, but I can’t see Derby selling at the moment.

  • 56 expatmag // Jan 19, 2016 at 6:45 AM

    Lil

    Signing Berahino would limit the chances of Perez and I would hate that. I see him becoming exceptionally influential as he gains more experience.

    Furthermore, we are currently developing our own “Berahino” in Armstrong and this nay impede his already superb development.

  • 57 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 19, 2016 at 6:46 AM

    Expat,
    Pretty much every report I read says they are trying to offload Rivi. Read yesterday there was some interest from France, can’t remember which club, but it mentioned Gouffy and Rivi were both being looked at by clubs.

  • 58 expatmag // Jan 19, 2016 at 6:47 AM

    Lil

    I like Phillips but I see him only as a back up and not a replacement for Sissoko

    You know, we are really not that far off having a quality squad.

  • 59 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 19, 2016 at 6:50 AM

    Expat,
    I think Gini is the person limiting Perez. Perez won’t end up a centre forward, he will return to the attacking midfielder role he played before he came here. If Arma is good enough, he will force Berahinho out, if he can’t do that, then he probably isn’t what we need.

    What do we do until Arma is ready though? Just stick with Mitro and Cisse and hope that neither are injured or suspended at the same time? Surely we need at least one more body in that can play up top?

  • 60 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 19, 2016 at 6:53 AM

    Expat,
    Yeah, that is probably about where I’d see him, which I think is a good move. At £5million he is a snip, QPR wanted £10 or £12 million for him in the summer.

    Plus it leaves another £5 to £7million available for a left winger.

  • 61 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 19, 2016 at 6:55 AM

    I don’t know enough about Phillips but from what I can gather he doesn’t really stand out from what we have. I suppose in the end what matters is if he’s a match for McC?

    I certainly think Townsend is. The critic for a while has been that we don’t buy the players we (the manager) need.

  • 62 expatmag // Jan 19, 2016 at 6:55 AM

    Lil

    French clubs would love Goofy, Riviere and Obertan but they cannot afford their wages.

    I actually like Oba. Before his injury against Liverpool last season, he was virtually unplayable and I remember that goal he made for Wijnaldum against Southampton this season. A sumptuous cross.

    Goofy has been well and truly mismanaged and run into the ground. I fond it totally frustrating that the lad has rarely been used as an out and out forward.

    Poor Riviere. He was pushed into a target man role he was clearly not able to do. He was never used in his own position.

    I feel really sorry for these lads and dont blame them one little bit for sitting back and seeing out their contracts.

    Talk about being grossly mis managed. Club is a bloody joke

  • 63 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 19, 2016 at 7:05 AM

    Expat,
    Goofy should never have been more than squad filler and Rivi was never going to cut it here. He has always been an average player, and wasn’t a prolific forward in France. I doubt he would have managed to play as many games here if we had looked to use him as a out and out forward. I don’t mind the guy, he works hard and is decent at most things, but doesn’t excel at any other than his work rate.

    I remember the French journo Julien Laurens (I think) couldn’t believe we spent that much on Rivi, and said he would not be a success. He doesn’t have the ability to play up top, he isn’t a winger and he isn’t good enough to play just off instead of Gini or Perez. He has never been a frequent goalscorer or creator, he offers very little. There is no point him remaining at the club.

    They have both made a nice chunk out of it, so I’m not going to worry too much about them, I’d happily loan them both out or sell and agree to pay part wages for the remainder of their contracts here – similar to City with Adebayor.

    Ober has more end product than Townsend, but I don’t think he is good enough consistently enough. He can be unplayable at times, which is probably what Fergy saw in him, but he has never developed that consistency for one reason or another. He would probably thrive if he went back to the French league.

  • 64 firebug666 // Jan 19, 2016 at 7:05 AM

    Well Spuds have put a price tag of £14m on Townsend, that should be it; we should draw a line under any deal right there and move on.

    Hopefully we will have other targets on our list, and if Phillips is one of them time for us to make a move.

  • 65 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 19, 2016 at 7:07 AM

    Sorry, that isn’t clear….. First para is mainly re Goofy, second is re Rivi. Rest should be self explanatory.

    Need to get another coffee down me, getting up at 4am does me no good unless I can get at least 3 coffees down me by now….

  • 66 expatmag // Jan 19, 2016 at 7:08 AM

    Lil

    Yes. We need one more body in who can play the Mitro role but it isnt Berahino.

    Maybe a Jordan Rhodes or an Andre Grey next season but Armstrong is definitely a goer and will succeed. A back up to Mitro is what we need plus wingers who can service them but most if all, defenders who can stop the concession of goals.

    Willems and Koulibaly at the back, Rhodes and McGeady up front would do.

  • 67 expatmag // Jan 19, 2016 at 7:11 AM

    Lil

    Sorry mate. Would love to continue the discussion. Gotta head out to dinner with the missus. Excellent chat though.

  • 68 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 19, 2016 at 7:15 AM

    Expat,
    Catch you later. Agree we need a back up to Mitro. I think Batshuayi was our number one target, as he has the strength to do it, but because of our position he won’t move at this time.

  • 69 Derek // Jan 19, 2016 at 7:19 AM

    My opinion regarding Sissoko is that he’s not as essential to our squad’s formation as he once was.

    – Wijnaldum is performing much better than Sissoko ever did in the CM role,
    – Sissoko can’t offer good enough service to Mitrovic on the RW as he rarely puts in good crosses,
    – Yes he can run forward and take on players, but he often loses possession which forces our weak defence to deal with counter attacks,
    – Perez is better suited on RW compared to LW where he is often played, and with his potential he should regularly start for us to develop and improve.

    So really we should be looking at a left winger who can cross and score goals. We have got Aarons who has potential to do that in future, but it’s a risk to rely solely on him as our only threat from the left.

    If we keep Sissoko and buy a winger, that means Perez probably misses out on starting. But if we sell him, considering the club looks at pound-for-pound value, it’s likely we get the maximum value if he’s sold either now or at the end of the season. For the money we get for him, we will be able to improve the squad in areas we more desperately need players like LB, RB and CB.

  • 70 SUTTY1978 // Jan 19, 2016 at 7:19 AM

    Excellent summation of Townsend earlier Lil, exactly the way I see it. As you say Phillips would offer more service than anything we currently have but the gaping hole is on the left not the right!

  • 71 nut meg // Jan 19, 2016 at 7:35 AM

    Lilo
    QPR V HULL
    I was going to post this earlier in the year but never got round to it. It’s from new years day and the bit that excited me was the QPR goal, move starts after about 2.10 or so….what a cross from the left!

  • 72 nut meg // Jan 19, 2016 at 7:35 AM

    whoops
    http://livetv.sx/en/showvideo/310514_queens_park_rangers_hull_city/

  • 73 OneAlanShearer // Jan 19, 2016 at 8:07 AM

    Buying berahino and townsend gives us options.

    You have to remember any of our players could get injured so it’s not just about who we take out to allow for them to come in.

    We could also get a massive bid for a player and it be too good to turn down.

    We are finally building a proper squad. If we sign them and keep all our best in the summer we will be some team. Competitive at last.

    Both mitrovic and perez are talented players but have not scored enough is the hard fact of it. They can be complimented in the team or rotated. It can only take us forward to have options.

    I am a fan of the side we sent out on Saturday and the spirit in this side is second to none. We have to build on this momentum by beating Watford next. I firmly believe our new players can be the difference to change our fortunes against them….We are due a result.

    Until we are mathematically safe we have to play every match like it could be our last.

    If we switch to Phillips instead of Townsend I see levy regretting that.

    I want townsend for his pace and ability to score from nothing. Berahino I want but if spurs and Chelsea really are after him we could be out of luck.

    A massive transfer window for us.

  • 74 OneAlanShearer // Jan 19, 2016 at 8:15 AM

    Expat – with respect mcgeady is poor.
    Arma is playing in league 1, he needs a season in the championship if he doesn’t severely impress in preseason.
    We need options. We have had to start the same xi when they are shattered which opens us up to injuries.

  • 75 goommy // Jan 19, 2016 at 8:16 AM

    25M for Berahino when Townsend was around 10M? I don’t feel good for this deal..

  • 76 Sav // Jan 19, 2016 at 10:19 AM

    We should be going for better than these 2. Neither will stiffen up the changing room for the fight ahead. Berahino’s stats are not great for that money and many here seem to forget that playing Townsend or Berahino will require an existing player to be dropped. I’m not convinced they are good enough to displace what we already have.




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