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Howay The Lads!!

Steve McClaren Was 100% Right On This Player

10:11 am, Monday, January 18th, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 224 Comments

Steve McClaren may be turning things around at Newcastle and certainly the way he’s had Newcastle playing good attacking football these last two games warms the heart.

There is no lack of guts or spirit from our Newcastle players and we go out and attack the opposition.

The fans at the game once again helped Newcastle in the second half,  as we kind of hung on for the 3 points,  but giving away a daft goal after 50 minutes didn’t help us.

But credit also to West Ham who came fighting back and you could tell they are a very good side.

jonjo shelvey steve mcclaren

Smiles all around after the great win

McClaren seems to have been successful where Alan Pardew was not,  in convincing the top brass at the club that we need to buy ready-made English players with Premier League experience.

And the signing of Jonjo Shelvey could be the master-stroke we have all been waiting for.

He was a target in the summer and just last month we thought Newcastle had absolutely no chance of getting him – no chance whatever.


Yes – wrong again – but it was still a surprise Swansea sold him to Newcastle, because we are also struggling with relegation.

This is what Steve McClaren said after the game on Saturday about Jonjo:

“We said in the summer that Shelvey was the type of midfield player that we wanted, and we’re delighted that we’ve got him now,”

“He helps with the balance of the team, and we saw his quality in the two passes he made for the goals. They were sharp, they were forward and they were quick, and that gives other people so much time.”

“When you delay that pass, defenders get back in front of players and it’s difficult. He gives other people opportunities because of the way he plays the game.”

One thing we like from Steve is he keeps asking for fans to pull in the same direction and help make Newcastle successful again – and we have seen very few demonstrations this season.

That´s even though this season basically – well at least up until now – has been an extension of last season´s living nightmare.

But there is a shining light at the end of the tunnel now, and while the win on Saturday was huge – we have to follow that up with another good display at Watford on Saturday and go all out for another win.

Wins and more wins are what will save us this season.

And who knows, while we don´t want to get too excited or carried away –  things may even be upbeat before the last game of the season, because we may even be safe before then.

That would be something – something positive!!

Howay The Lads!!

Tags: Coaching · Jonjo Shelvey · Newcastle News · Premier League · Press Conference

224 responses so far ↓

  • 1 angelswithdirtyfaces // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:13 AM

    the last thing this blog needs is another Jeff clone

  • 2 jazzyp // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:15 AM

    Edd less of the positivity mate…….It is not fitting for this blog

  • 3 mike ashley for the greater good // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:17 AM

    angelswithdirtyfaces We wouldn’t be able to spend the money we are spending if it wasn’t for the way Mike Ashley has run the club. I can’t wait to see the squad at the start of next season.

  • 4 WWSBRD // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:18 AM

    Is Bony more proven than Berahino? Have they not played fairly comparable games in the PL? (Genuine question I dont really know though I seem to think they both started properly in the top league in 2013)

    I think Berahino would offer something different to the squad compared to Bony though so out of the two Id rather him

  • 5 Jonjo Wijnaldum // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:18 AM

    We need Agbonlahor

  • 6 WWSBRD // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:18 AM

    Oh dear our new friend seems to be stuck on repeat…I hate it when that happens to me

  • 7 beermonkey // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:20 AM


    he is a risk but if we can get him at the right price
    his attitude has been questioned and I don’t think spurs will go back he let himself go at xmas I think if he had kept his head down worked hard spurs would have back for him pochitino works his players and might not want the risk
    me I think he is young looked like he was off to spurs only for west brom to not let him go not sure pulis has handled it right as he wanted the cash to spend not all the players fault just my opinion

    he did put some timber on you could see it and pulis mentioned it think he has lost it now

  • 8 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:20 AM

    that song “Instant replay” comes to mind lol

  • 9 jazzyp // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:22 AM


    to be honest mate without looking into stats im not sure.
    Bony for me is just a personal preference bud over Berahino, Although I wouldn’t say no to either.
    I just see Bony hitting the ground running a lot faster than Saido who may take time .
    Again mate it just comes down to personal preference !!

  • 10 mike ashley for the greater good // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:23 AM

    WWSBRD, I have always been your friend, you just haven’t realised!!

  • 11 Jack Root // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:23 AM

    Interesting chat earlier on the use of statistics to support a point and to buy a particular player. Statistics in football are only really useful, as a means to support or question formed opinion. You shouldn’t look at statistics, and then assess a player’s worth in a particular area, based on those same statistics. If your a good judge of the required qualities your seeking there’s nothing to match watching / scouting rather than viewing on television, Internet or Opta. You learn so much more and why else do managers and scouts travel and watch players over an extended period. I have always listened to a fans view of a player that they watch over a season. Clough and Taylor when scouting used to chat to fans at games because they could often provide the whole picture of a player.
    One of the main problems with statistics in football is just how many of them are dependent on the team’s style of play, the team’s overall quality and the quality of opposition. Some players are not as influential in poor sides and others could be disenchanted and look for pastures new. There are so many variables.
    Comment by most on here on Andros Townsend is based on what ? He has played a few under 21 games but not for Spurs since October. Like Shelvey at Swansea he has fallen out with key personnel and could well also thrive on a fresh challenge. I don’t suspect that were thinking of buying Townsend without knowing what were getting.. I mentioned yesterday the number of clubs where he’s been on loan. Maybe not a good sign but he’s only 24.
    As far as Townsend is concerned the number of crosses statistic can also be very misleading, as, in many cases, that may merely serve as an indicator that the player plays for a team who like to play direct football utilising the wide players. I can’t imagine that any Barcelona player has put in as many crosses as Leighton Baines!
    I personally wouldn’t buy him. Why give Spurs £ 14 million so they can buy what should be our targets Berahino and Domenico Berardi. I have watched them both and Berardi would be a revelation. We should be negotiating for quality signings with proven track records Berardi is a wonderful talent and he can play wide left up front in a 4-3-3.
    We could just be stringing Spurs along whilst we secure their major targets. For that to happen we need to revamp the scouting network and have an infusion of a younger scouting network.

  • 12 AncientC // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:24 AM

    £100,000+ per week + easily £15 million for Bony, who has been woeful for Man City. If he struggles for goals at Man City, what would he be like at Newcastle.

  • 13 welshgeordie9 // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:24 AM

    Surly we need another creative midfielder like shelvey, if he gets injured or suspended then we will be back to square one, get cabaye back, him and shelvey would be awesome.

  • 14 WWSBRD // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:25 AM

    Yeah I heard Pulis mentioned it but as I say Ive not seen Berahino in a while. I assume he cant be completely match fit currently but if he has gotten the weight off then he must be working hard at it (probably to get a move)

    Im not completely sold on him but of all the strikers we have been linked with, now Austins off the table, him or Remy Id like to see come in

    Haha bless him

  • 15 jazzyp // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:27 AM


    I agree on every thing you say buddy, And im not saying no to Saido. But can we take a chance on the player who you have just described while we are in a relegation dog fight.
    I would love nothing more than to bring in another English talent, But I think he is a risk which we can ill afford over the second half of the season

  • 16 welshgeordie9 // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:28 AM

    Forgot to say as well regarding saivet, how can some moan about the way he played on Saturday, only now he’s just signed, winds me up when people do that, if shelvey doesn’t play well this weekend are they going to have a go at him as well.


  • 17 WWSBRD // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:28 AM

    True am not against Bony I just think he offers similar to Mitrovic if am honest but I wouldnt be up in arms if we signed him

    Just changed ur name recently then I take it?

  • 18 Jib // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:29 AM


    The analogy of a house is good.

    The truth of the matter is Mike Ashley bought a rotten Victorian pile with the superficial gloss of some 80’s cowboy work done on it.

    It had about 3 mortgages and 7 secured loans on it (we were still paying Real Madrid for M.Owen ffs)

    The current regime has taken about 7/8 years to restore it to the level of other dwellings in the street (The PL)

    IF Ashley hadn’t saved in the nick of time it woud have been condemned and demolished.

    After 7/8 years of root and branch ruthless cutting back , can it now be competitive in the streeet !

  • 19 welshgeordie9 // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:29 AM

    Get bony and townsend in and that would be a perfect window.

  • 20 jazzyp // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:32 AM

    Newcastle United have reportedly rejected the chance to bring Brazilian striker Alexandre Pato to the club in this transfer window.Pato, 26, currently represents Corinthians in his homeland, but is widely expected to depart for the Premier League this month.Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea have all been linked with an £11m move for the former AC Milan striker, but it is not yet clear whether any of those clubs have launched a bid.According to the Newcastle Evening Chronicle, Newcastle were offered the chance to bring the attacker to England, but the Magpies turned the proposal down.Pato, who scored 63 times for AC Milan between 2007 and 2012, has 10 goals in 27 games for Brazil, but has not represented his national team since 2013.

  • 21 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:34 AM

    Glad to hear that Jazzy Pato would have been way too risky

  • 22 Jack Root // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:34 AM

    You make my point for me. Sorry but I hope the Swans get beat tonight.

  • 23 SuperShearer // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:35 AM

    @Jib – interesting analogy. I hope you’re right. For a long time it look a dead cert that Ashley was just looking to line his pockets with our club. The free Sports Direct advertising didn’t help this. But if, as you suggest, he was actually just getting his ducks in a row, there’s good signs that IF we can survive we may in fact push on a bit. Fingers, and everything else, crossed.

  • 24 nut meg // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:36 AM

    PL Bony 81games 32 goals 9 asissts age 27
    Berahino 87 games 22 goals 3 asissts age 21
    Berahino & Redmond are both brummie boys and room mates when with the England U21s, maybe useful if we’re interested in both players.

  • 25 Stick It On Me Jonjo // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:36 AM

    I agree that Bony would be too similar to Mitro, we need a nippy CF who can compliment Mitro’s hold up play. Berahino would be a much better fit, only thing is though… is he really holding out so much for this Tottenham move?

  • 26 jazzyp // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:37 AM

    Take a chancel

    Morning mate how ya feeling today…All good I hope

  • 27 Jonjo Wijnaldum // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:37 AM

    Jonathan Walters would be a good signing

  • 28 beermonkey // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:38 AM


    of all the striker we have been linked with remy is the one that will score and create and do from the start

    chelea wont let him go they are still in Europe and they need to climb the table an injury to costa and there in doo doo if they let remy go as falcoa is a waste

  • 29 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:38 AM

    yeah not too bad thanks Jazzy, the morphine helps like lol

  • 30 mike ashley for the greater good // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:39 AM

    Congratulations Jib, you’ve got it!!

  • 31 Jonjo Wijnaldum // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:41 AM

    I know we were in dire straits before Ashley came in but to take 7/8 years to get the house in order takes the micky

  • 32 WWSBRD // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:41 AM

    nut meg
    Ah cheers, Id assume due to age that Berahinos stats are slightly tainted because more would of been substitute appearances compared to Bony who was Swansea’s main player. Out come isnt far apart though

    Id love Redmond in the Summer if Sissoko leaves

  • 33 WWSBRD // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:43 AM

    Very true mate though if it was a loan from Chelsea we could have Berahino too 😉

  • 34 angelswithdirtyfaces // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:43 AM


    Ah the ignorance of the WUM !! More jam tomorrow..

    Do you undertsand the concept of Utilitarianism ? That is, the philosophocal idea of “the greatest good for the greatest number”
    It had two main proponents Jeremy Bentham and John Stuart Mill. Both well known English footie fans – Gooners, I think.

    According to Bentham, the most moral acts are those which maximize pleasure and minimise pain. In Utilitarianism the greatest good is the aggregate pleasure after deducting suffering of all involved in any action. This was expanded to include not only the quantity, but quality of pleasure.

    So, have Toon fans had any, or much pleasure, from watching the lads over the last few seasons. Is there a greater good at all ? And if you add in quality… Does survival in the EPL count as a quality experience for football fan as compared with regular European competition games and FA Cup runs… or even a decent style of football ? I think not.

    So in choosing your monicker you demonstrate the typical ignorance of the WUM as:-
    1. It is certainly true that Toon fans have suffered a lot of pain in the last eight years
    2. There has been very little pleasure during Ashley’s ownership.

    You fail at the very first test – that Ashley has brought sufficient pleasure to Toon fans as against ther immense distress caused by repeated relegation struggles, a home hammering by Liverpool, long winless runs, zero success after the 3rd round FA Cup for a number of years etc etc. need I go on ?

    Best advice is to disappear back up the orifice from which you emerged. We do not need any more WUMS and trolls on this blog, let alone smug regime apologists.

  • 35 jazzyp // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:47 AM

    On this day
    Yohan Cabaye made his final #NUFC appearance, scoring twice in a 3-1 away win to West Ham.
    Question….Do you think we have finally replaced him in the shape of Shelvey. Or would you have sooner bought Cabaye back last summer ??

  • 36 beermonkey // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:47 AM


    apart from remy I cant think of another striker we can bring in that will hit the ground running as remy
    sadio has been playing in the prem for a couple of seasons did very well last season and will be another player looking at euros knowing a good finish to the season could see him make the squad
    I think we have half a chance of signing sadio none with remy or bony

  • 37 Jack Root // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:47 AM

    Your absolutely right. You won’t read it in that rag The Mag but Hall and Shepherd families bled the club dry between 199 and 2007. It was nearly 144 million. Quoted in the book.
    Ashley’s due diligence didn’t pick up on the phased payments for players no longer at the club bought years earlier. One of the reasons Ashley pays up front for signu
    The day the promises had to stop by Denis Cassidy ( deceased) government improved governance of football clubs after the publication.

  • 38 WWSBRD // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:50 AM

    Ashley bought Newcastle in 2007
    Mansour bought Man City in 2008 (rumour has it after Ashley insulted them and blew the deal to seel them us)

    I put it to the court that had Ashley not bought us the rumored Mansour deal to purchase Newcastle United would of gone through clearing the debts and injecting our club with success whilst extending the stadium rather than selling the option to do so

    Obviously I have no idea if this would of happened much like people saying we would of gone bust have no idea that would of happened

  • 39 mike ashley for the greater good // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:50 AM

    angelswithdirtyfaces you remind me of a spoilt child who hasn’t got their own way, things don’t always happen the way you want them to!! I’m sure you’ll have got over it by this time next season.

  • 40 AncientC // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:51 AM

    Apparently getting the club relegated via the constructive dismissal of Keegan, removing the chance of expanding the stadium, increasing the club debt, removing advertising and other revenue streams so the debt is prolonged and less money is available for players according to the balance sheet, leasing out the name of the stadium etc.

    Just getting the house in order. Laughable.

    Reality of the situation. The team finished last season as the worst team in the league, money had to be spent to survive. Survival budget was put out, but the players had to have sell on value.

    Next transfer window, club is 18th in the table. One good player is brought in to help out, and 1 cheap import – to help the club survive. One good game against West Ham combined with a result….

  • 41 angelswithdirtyfaces // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:51 AM


    If I took eight or nine years to remedy previous maintenanee problems by putting cheap patches over the decaying fabric and employing bodge merchants to do it, then the eventual bill will be much higher than getting it sorted right away. And if I didn’t bother having a survey done properly before I started….only got myself to blame.

    In the interim, letting it out like Rackman (you’re of the age to know who I am talking about), and abusing the tenants, simply gets you a deservedly bad reputation.

  • 42 Jib // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:52 AM

    There you are rumbling along nicely , sounding quite intellectual , making some semblance (however tenuous) of an argument.

    Then you come out with this :-

    “Best advice is to disappear back up the orifice from which you emerged. We do not need any more WUMS and trolls on this blog, let alone smug regime apologists.”

    Cuántos años tienes tu ?

  • 43 angelswithdirtyfaces // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:53 AM


    Playing the man like a typical troll – you must be Jeff’s alter ego

  • 44 Jib // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:53 AM

    Rachman actually

  • 45 optimistic prime // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:54 AM


    IMO Shelvey is better than Cabaye, so yes.

    I like Bony, to much like Mitro though.
    Saido I is a hard one, is he fit or fat etc.
    Remy the mercanary, hmm.

    Surley there’s someone else

  • 46 nut meg // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:55 AM

    We’re looking as though we’re after some good exciting young English talent,fingers crossed for the 2nd half of the season.If Sissoko goes or stays I wouldn’t mind Redmond coming in.He’s actually played more on the left than the right but is more productive on the right.He can play in more or less all forward & mid field positions.positions. Berahino is also versatile so all areas would be covered.

  • 47 beermonkey // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:57 AM


    any chance u can share the morphine I have a feeling the blog is gonna take a turn from football to accounts and general I know more than you crap

    prefer shelvy but thought gini was more of a replacement to cabaye, at the start of the season never thought we could get shelvy here

  • 48 jazzyp // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:57 AM


    All that matters pal is that we bring in another CF this transfer window as we desperately need one.
    You would hope this week the wheels are put in motion because the last thing we want to be doing is going down to the wire on transfer deadline day and losing out, And stuck with a misfiring Mitro.
    Some one mentioned last week…..Why don’t Nufc employ the services of Mr Shearer and teach Mitro everything he knows.

    Surely there can be no one better in the game to learn off

  • 49 WWSBRD // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:59 AM

    nut meg
    Yeah tbf Id have Remond regardless of Sissoko I just dont think the club would go for him unless Sissoko leaves (assuming Townsend comes in this window)

  • 50 Jack Root // Jan 18, 2016 at 10:59 AM

    So your another one who doesn’t welcome a newcomer to the blog .
    Why are you afraid of an alternative opinion.
    The football years Of KK, Shearer under Hall and Shepherd and other Freddie were great the best for me . Shepherd did sack SBR.
    Ashley should have remembered ” let the buyer beware”
    However Jib’s central point was correct. Read the book and it will change your mind.

  • 51 reilly // Jan 18, 2016 at 11:01 AM

    Tottenham reject £10.5m bid for townsend.
    walk away theres better out there for that money.

  • 52 jazzyp // Jan 18, 2016 at 11:01 AM


    On a performance like he produced Saturday it is hard for us to get carried away. But at 23 and English I hope your right mate.
    If he goes through the rest of the season in that sort of form then I see no reason why he wont go to the Euro’s

  • 53 catchy in norway // Jan 18, 2016 at 11:02 AM

    im not sure why, but it seem most on here are very reluctant to give any credit to Shteve for all the great work that has been doing in the whole club.

    football is now a joy to watch even though some results have not gone the way they should have. and now for me there only a few matches we have played this season where the team just didnt turn up,

    1. we now play pass and move football, its to feet when ever possible

    2. we create good chances that are not being put away, but the fact is we create them.

    3. he is bringing into the whole club this winning mentality that drives them forward with hope and determanation, no more of this one man runnung forward with no options so he has to give the ball up.

    4. the stadium seems to be rocking again just like it was in the 90s, fans can see we are moving forward as a club.

    Shteve has a say in the transfers, and that seems to be something he demanded before he got the contract.

    I have said for a long time he is a very good coach, and i think if peope only spole the truth . they would say it, but instead we seem to have the same attitude as we had when P45 was doing bad, people just didnt want to say anything and go against the masses..

    well done Shteve,, long may it continue

  • 54 Slank // Jan 18, 2016 at 11:02 AM

    Jack @ 36

    I’m glad someone else shares the same view as me about that rag The Mag and the Hall and Shepherd families who bled the club dry.

    It would not be the first time that Ashley has not done due diligence. He bought Lillywhites business in a day, without completing any due diligence. He is a maverick businessman. He once used a game of spoof to settle a disputed £200,000 bill with bankers, Merrill Lynch for example.

  • 55 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 18, 2016 at 11:02 AM

    sure beermonkey I have plenty lol

  • 56 Jib // Jan 18, 2016 at 11:04 AM

    There are loads of exciting young strikers all over Europe that would jump at the chance to come to the PL and NUFC (pretty much like like Mitro although his Papa did his best to slow it down).

    The question is , get one now , or wait
    until Summer and get a temporary PL warhorse until the end of the season.

    My opinion is , that it is only a matter of time until Mitro gets his eye in , so go for option 2.

  • 57 jazzyp // Jan 18, 2016 at 11:04 AM

    According to Gazzetta dello Sport, Napoli’s Director of Football Cristiano Giuntoli has sent his representatives to begin negotiations for French international Moussa Sissoko.

    We earlier reported Napoli have expressed their interest in the Newcastle United midfielder, after failed bids for Hector Herrera and Christoph Kramer. It now seems Napoli are ready to step up their interest in Sissoko.

    Earlier, L’Equipe reported Newcastle United could demand €35 million for Moussa Sissoko, but the midfielder is not too keen on switching clubs before the end of the season. Sissoko has earlier admitted it that he wants to play in the Champions League, but a summer move would surely be preferable.

    There were also reports saying Newcastle United have offered Sissoko a new contract, despite his current deal expiring in 2019, but contracts in football don’t really stop players from leaving, and that won’t guarantee anything.

    It still remains to be seen if any deal can be concluded this month, or if Newcastle United will let go one of their best players, as they’re struggling to stay in the top flight.

  • 58 Slank // Jan 18, 2016 at 11:06 AM

    catchy in norway

    ‘ is now a joy to watch..’

    Not if you support ManU but who cares. Let them suffer I say.

  • 59 beermonkey // Jan 18, 2016 at 11:06 AM


    shearer should be at the club coaching and as an ambassadorial role
    look at the mitro and perez deals I know we signed them but for a potential new signing knowing you going to work with the premiere leagues top goal scorer would surly be a big draw so he should be in in the delegation to sign some players as well

    its a real shame the club and he cant sort it out but the club doesn’t seem interested in our history, I think it would go along way to show things are changing if they sorted it

  • 60 optimistic prime // Jan 18, 2016 at 11:07 AM


    I picked CM as our weak link months ago and suggested we needed someone like Shelvey.

    Well happy to get the man himself, he’s stronger and better in the tackle than Cabaye. His vision and passing are just as good, the lad can take a set piece unlike Cabaye.

    I think he’ll be a star for us and really push on.

    I’m happy with our buisness as I wanted 2 CM’S, I’d like a striker with real pace but think well be fine as is, Mitro will start burry ing them soon.

  • 61 Slank // Jan 18, 2016 at 11:10 AM

    catchy in norway

    I’m sure McClaren did say that turning Newcastle around takes time a bit like turning the Titanic around which I thought was probably not the most appropriate comparison as the the Titanic sank !

  • 62 AncientC // Jan 18, 2016 at 11:10 AM

    Let Levy keep Townsend.

    Townsend will have Levy’s balls in a vice come the summer when he has 12 months left on his contract.

    Levy is a liability. Tottenham have to produce younger players because Levy does not know how to spend money… all he is good for is overvaluing his players and choosing good managers.

  • 63 Jib // Jan 18, 2016 at 11:10 AM

    Someone mentioned Gabby Agbonlahor.

    He seems not to figure in Garde’s plans.

    Lightening reflexes.

    6 months away from his native Birmingham could do him the world of good AND help his bank balance.

  • 64 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Jan 18, 2016 at 11:11 AM

    Did Berahino originally not get annoyed at having to play wide left as he wants to play as a striker? Doesnt seem like the type of player we need if we want to play a pressing game and he looks like he has been on the Greggs diet recently !!

    There is no point in us trying to negotiate with Spurs if we dont want to pay the price Levy wants as they will hold out for the full money

    Would like to see us get back up for Mitrovic because Mclarens system needs to have a player that can hold the ball up although Riviere could be that man that Martin lad from Derby would be good back up

  • 65 catchy in norway // Jan 18, 2016 at 11:18 AM

    My motm was Mitro , his hold up play was outstanding , some of his chest passes are amazing, he bullies and bosses the CB he plays against, he just needs some confidence when in front of goal, that will come and when it does , he will be a beast

  • 66 Jib // Jan 18, 2016 at 11:18 AM


    The various managers at Villa can never make their minds up if he’s a winger or a striker !

    At 29 if you just gave him the role of fox in the box he’d do it really well.

  • 67 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 18, 2016 at 11:20 AM

    agreed jib

  • 68 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 18, 2016 at 11:21 AM

    its not often I agree with you Jib but I do on Agbonlahor, not sure if he would fit into our plans though

  • 69 Rotonda heights // Jan 18, 2016 at 11:22 AM

    i always thought agbonlahor was another super fast but ultimately headless chicken with seemingly little football brain or composure when 1 on 1 with a keeper.

  • 70 jazzyp // Jan 18, 2016 at 11:23 AM


    Would love nothing more than to have Shay back at the club in a coaching capacity .
    He loved the club and did a hell of a lot of Charity work .
    Players like Shearer and Given can only be an inspiration to up and coming players so its a win win.

  • 71 WWSBRD // Jan 18, 2016 at 11:25 AM

    Agbonlahor will be great in the Championship but his 1 goal in 4 games strike rate I dont want to see him anywhere near NUFC

  • 72 WWSBRD // Jan 18, 2016 at 11:27 AM

    Shola on a free anyone?

  • 73 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 18, 2016 at 11:27 AM

    WWSBRD isn’t he at Bolton?

  • 74 WWSBRD // Jan 18, 2016 at 11:29 AM

    They have just announced he is leaving the club at the end of the week

  • 75 jazzyp // Jan 18, 2016 at 11:29 AM

    Gabbi no thank you. Its like delving into a kfc bargain bucket and looking for the prime breast…And ending up with the greasy thigh

  • 76 jazzyp // Jan 18, 2016 at 11:31 AM

    The Mackem slayer returns. I can see the headlines now

  • 77 nut meg // Jan 18, 2016 at 11:33 AM

    Reilly @ 51
    Where is it reported that Spurs reject 10.5m for Townsend?

  • 78 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 18, 2016 at 11:34 AM

    ah right WWSBRD suppose its cos Bolton are up sh!t creek without a paddle

  • 79 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 18, 2016 at 11:36 AM

    Blackburn have valued Jordan Rhodes at £12 million is he worth that??

  • 80 jazzyp // Jan 18, 2016 at 11:36 AM

    Nut meg
    Newcastle United are ready to increase their bid for Andros Townsend after Tottenham made it clear they would reject a proposed £10.5 million offer for the England winger.

    Townsend is interested in a move to St James’ Park but Newcastle have yet to match Spurs’ valuation, thought to be about £14m.

    Standard Sport revealed last week that Townsend would prefer a loan move during this window before leaving Tottenham in the summer but at this stage, Spurs are reluctant to consider a deal of this nature. But Townsend is keen to find a new team, at least for the remainder of the campaign, after being frozen out by Mauricio Pochettino, and both clubs will continue their discussions

  • 81 WWSBRD // Jan 18, 2016 at 11:36 AM

    Aye not in the best of spots are they

  • 82 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 18, 2016 at 11:38 AM

    Jazzy thanks for the update, I do hope we sign him though
    WWSBRD no not really

  • 83 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 18, 2016 at 11:39 AM

    best get cracking hosp appointment at 12.30 speak soon

  • 84 WWSBRD // Jan 18, 2016 at 11:47 AM

    Good luck mate

  • 85 Reyantoon // Jan 18, 2016 at 11:50 AM

    AncientC/63 – u nailed it there. Couldn’t agree more!

  • 86 Rotonda heights // Jan 18, 2016 at 11:58 AM

    Mane yes , Agbonlahor no

  • 87 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 18, 2016 at 11:58 AM

    Levy a nightmare? How? He has overseen the improvement of their commercial side, of their youth development side, haggles hard to get good transfer fees when selling players. Over the last 5 seasons Spurs have spent a net figure of c.-£41,200,000 whilst continuing to improve their squad and move up the league.

    Now, he doesn’t know how to spend money…. Of the players to have appeared more than 10 times for them this season Levy has bought 14 out of 19….

  • 88 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Jan 18, 2016 at 12:00 PM

    @Take a Chancel

    Blackburn bought him for about 10 million a few seasons ago and he has had scored lots of goals since so I suppose they will want profit !!

    On Townsend a loan deal would be the best option for all round hes maybe not sure about us either because we have been fighting relegation and we want to see how he fits in before we pay the full amount for him !!!

  • 89 AncientC // Jan 18, 2016 at 12:01 PM

    Lilongwe Geordie – Where did I say Levy was a “nightmare”? I claimed he was a liability when it came to his valuation of players and how he spends money in the transfer market.

    That Bale money went to a lot of use.

  • 90 AncientC // Jan 18, 2016 at 12:02 PM

    Just to add, how much progress have Tottenham made since Harry Redknapp left the club?

  • 91 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 18, 2016 at 12:02 PM

    Most Villa fans I know would happily pay for Agbonlahor’s train fare if Newcastle were to take over his contract.

  • 92 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 18, 2016 at 12:13 PM

    Levy brought Redknapp to the club, so not really rue of the relevance, but yes, they look a far better team now than before.

    I don’t understand the issue with Levy wanting big bucks. If Charnley was selling a player you would be up in arms if he was just happy to accept a low value. What is wrong with Levy wanting to try and extract the maximum amount for a player when they sell them?

    The Bale cash, yeah, it saw them bring in Eriksen, Lamela, Chadli which cost them £43 million roughly, the other half of the money didn’t go well, but because he works hard to get as much back as he could he recouped £36 million from them. So, Bale around £85million £43million worth still in the first team, Spurs spent around £100million that summer and recouped £36million. Not bad at all really.

  • 93 Jib // Jan 18, 2016 at 12:17 PM

    I get the sense of a triangular movement with Marseilles and Spurs.

    We won’t release Thauvin until Townsend is coming and when Florian goes we are interested in a swap for Michy Batshuayi.

    However Spurs have also expressed an interest in the striker, but Spurs and the Toon have both expressed an interest in Berahino.

    It’s getting very convoluted !

  • 94 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Jan 18, 2016 at 12:25 PM

    Arsenal right-back Mathieu Debuchy wants to leave the club this month, and says he regrets joining. (L’Equipe)

    Another one who thought he was too good for the club and is now warming a bench

  • 95 Tsunki // Jan 18, 2016 at 12:25 PM

    As our first proper win encourages the usual to start sweating out of the walls again.

    Ian, why are you posting as Jack Root now?

    Jib, the house analogy. Iirc, the ‘ house’ was indeed morgaged heavily, as a lot of them were at that time. No excuses for halls and shepherds raking cash out of the business but it was their business, something used to bolster Mike’s lack of vigour in exploiting standard revenue streams. But said House was one of the better properties in the neighbourhood, attractive, tastefully decorated and still with the structure intact and roof on and no discernible damp or rot. I believe once the new cash buyer came in, the tiles have started slipping and the total started, it became one of the less desirable residences, and even ended up empty for a year while drastic structural work was carried out. Seems the new owner let it go a bit while they rented it out to some pretty shady tenants who stripped the plumbing and the wiring out of it. The owner has patched it up here and there, so it looks better, however those dodgy tenants are still hanging around. Apparently now they are squatting.

  • 96 AncientC // Jan 18, 2016 at 12:26 PM

    “The Bale cash, yeah, it saw them bring in Eriksen, Lamela, Chadli which cost them £43 million roughly”

    Let’s not forget

    Son Heung-min £22 million
    Clinton N’Jie £12.5 million
    Paulinho £17 million
    Soldado £26 million (If not more)
    Capoue £8.6 million
    Lamela £25 million (which you mentioned and looks no better than the other youth products)

    I gave Levy credit for hiring good managers, which I believe Tottenham crucially required, in regards to getting something out of younger players in need of development.

    Levy has a history of overvaluing his own players, to a point where it has cost his club financially. Tottenham received good offers for Robbie Keane, Levy wanted more and scuppered any moves for Keane – who then went on sabbatical to Celtic and West Ham before going to LA Galaxy. Asking anything over £10 million for Townsend, a player who has fallen out with Tottenham staff, struggles in the side, and has 18 months left on his deal, is quite frankly ridiculous, but, not unexpected of Levy.

    Levy is by all means, free to ask what he wants for his players. I am unphased if Townsend joins us, or not. My issue is with Levy’s level of greed, and as such, I would rather our club did not pander to it.

  • 97 Tsunki // Jan 18, 2016 at 12:29 PM

    Btw I like the Jonjo Wijnaldum moniker as per Eds article blooper the other day.

    Less keen on the Mike Ashley apology for the grating of the good one though. I keep thinking of the lyric

    John Stuart Mill,
    Of his own free will
    On half a pint of brandy
    Was particularly ill..

  • 98 Reyantoon // Jan 18, 2016 at 12:37 PM

    Again you are spot on there @101

  • 99 Goofy // Jan 18, 2016 at 12:38 PM

    Looks like Aarons is going out on loan if we sign Townsend. Why do we not give our top youngsters a go? Townsend is a gamble. Aarons already looks the part, it doesn’t make any sense!

  • 100 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 18, 2016 at 12:38 PM

    Were they all bought with the Bale cash?

    He overvalues his plays so much that Spurs are the only current Prem side who have a negative spend in the last 5 seasons, because Levy extracts good value, even from lesser players in the squad.

    Levy took over running the football side in October 2008, when he sacked the sporting director, manager and coaches. They were in the relegation zone at the time. Since then all his total transfers have seen a nett negative total whilst propelling them from the relegation zone to regular contenders for the European spots.

    If his holding out for high fees for players was so damaging, and his spending in the market was so poor this would not be the case. 14 out of the 19 players to play in more than 10 games were signed by Levy.

    If that is a liability I only wish NUFC could appoint one to run the club.

  • 101 Goofy // Jan 18, 2016 at 12:40 PM


    I’d have Debuchy back. He’d be a bit more humble and would give Janmaat great competition.

  • 102 Tsunki // Jan 18, 2016 at 12:40 PM

    it’s possible that we wouldn’t be limited to spending the money we are spending if it wasn’t for the way Mike Ashley has run the club. I can’t wait to see the squad at the start of next season.


  • 103 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 18, 2016 at 12:42 PM

    On Townsend, I agree, I don’t want him for half the price quoted, but I wouldn’t call Levy a liability for wanting more. He knows clubs and Townsend are desperate, and is not under any pressure to sell. He has two weeks of the window left, and some clubs will become more or less desperate. If one does come in and match the price before then all well and good, Townsend will have little option but to take it if he wants to play for England. Levy holds all the cards at this stage of the window.

    Even if he sells him in the summer for half the current price he will still have made £7million on a poor player that cost nowt in transfer fees.

  • 104 Tsunki // Jan 18, 2016 at 12:43 PM

    Goofy apparently atm debuchy wouldn’t give Anita a run for his money at rb.

  • 105 Goofy // Jan 18, 2016 at 12:46 PM


    It’s probably due to the Arsenal fans ripping him to bits, can’t see a guy like that turning that bad that quick.

  • 106 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 18, 2016 at 12:46 PM

    If we could sort out a loan deal for the remainder of the season for an experienced player to come here to bolster our attacking positions then I’d give Marseille Thauvin and cash now for Batshuayi and loan him back to Marseille for the remainder of the campaign as a sweetener.

  • 107 Goofy // Jan 18, 2016 at 12:48 PM

    Wenger had him playing as CB when koscelny (not sure how to spell that) was out injured, haven’t heard if him since.

  • 108 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 18, 2016 at 12:48 PM

    On Debuchy, he had a fairly serious injury. I can’t say I’ve seen much of him since he returned, but that could have seriously affected his ability.

    Not sure I’d go along with taking the mickey for him thinking the grass is greener and all that and now being a bench warmer. Arsenal fans were very impressed with him before he picked up an injury from what I seem to remember.

  • 109 Belfast // Jan 18, 2016 at 12:49 PM

    Well I wish you’d have told me this 7 years ago. I could have escaped all the depression and came back today with a spring in my step.

  • 110 Goofy // Jan 18, 2016 at 12:51 PM

    Was it 7 years? Oops, doesn’t feel that long 😀

  • 111 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Jan 18, 2016 at 12:54 PM

    Debuchy got a band injury and then has been unlucky that Bellerin is emerging as potentially the best full back in europe so he is never going to get a game !

    He does always look sluggish when playing for Arsenal at the tempo they play at though which is another reason he does not get a game !

    He was good for us at times and also terrible at times also got sent off twice in games where he did not fancy it which were West Brom away and Liverpool 6 nil defeat!!

    Another player we should just forget about same with Cabaye Shelvey has the potential to be much better than him

  • 112 WWSBRD // Jan 18, 2016 at 12:55 PM

    Are u suggesting we fund OM completely?
    3 players and a boat load of money from us? Have they employed Derren Brown to do their transfer dealings? Haha

  • 113 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 18, 2016 at 12:56 PM

    I couldn’t agree more I think Shelvey could surpass Cabaye on so many levels

    Back from hosp, More scans needed 🙁

  • 114 AncientC // Jan 18, 2016 at 12:57 PM

    Lilongwe Geordie – What does Levy overvaluing players have to do with the transfer deficit at Tottenham? It is quite possible to overvalue players, lose out on millions, but still be in the negative. I am sure you are aware of that.

    A list of Tottenham’s transfers over recent years, you will notice there are not a lot of success stories in there. Pochettino’s good work aside, Levy has been extremely poor in the transfer market.

  • 115 Ron Knee // Jan 18, 2016 at 12:58 PM


    That was quick!

  • 116 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 18, 2016 at 12:58 PM

    Acient C

    True look at Ferdinand over Austin he lost millions between summer and this window! £4 mill is a pittance for someone of Austins quality

  • 117 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 18, 2016 at 12:59 PM

    I live about 3 mins from the hospital

  • 118 Belfast // Jan 18, 2016 at 1:00 PM

    Should have probably turned up at Villa Park with a big massive “It’s all part of the plan” banner or “January 2016”

    They’d have still laughed but they wouldn’t be laughing now.

  • 119 Belfast // Jan 18, 2016 at 1:02 PM

    I’m nearly sure Austin was only on 25-30 grand a week. Really find that rumored wage hard to believe. I don’t think any Southampton player would be on anything near that.

  • 120 Tsunki // Jan 18, 2016 at 1:02 PM

    TFL I can understand why. No parking, visits every other day of the week…

  • 121 Jib // Jan 18, 2016 at 1:03 PM


    No squatting they wholly own it , mortgage free.


    That’s what you can’t get your tiny head round.

    |BOO HOO for you.

  • 122 rowly // Jan 18, 2016 at 1:03 PM

    I like that catchy gave mcclaren a lot of credit. He’s right, there is much more structure throughout the club now which began in his first weeks when he appointed people with an excellent pedigree for various back room roles. His influence in the board room gives me a lot of confidence and the fact he highlighted the need for a forward thinking midfielder shows the impact that having a manager influencing transfers can have. We need to keep hold of sissoko as he is the only threat we have from either wing at the moment. We need someone similar on the left to really push up the table so I think that Townsend would be another excellent signing. The debate would be whether there is someone better we could get but I doubt there is in January. I honestly think that with that attacking threat down the left we could be a top 6 side with the quality we have every where else. We are heavily reliant on collo and janmaat not getting injured with lack of back up there and in summer this is where we need additional reinforcements.

  • 123 Belfast // Jan 18, 2016 at 1:05 PM

    The two West Ham owners have slagged him off previously. Just looks like another sly dig if anything.

    They’ve some cheek like considering the wage they pay Carroll.

  • 124 Belfast // Jan 18, 2016 at 1:08 PM

    All those bloody Austin articles and we didn’t even get one last article for closure, disappointed with that.

  • 125 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Jan 18, 2016 at 1:14 PM

    Just hope Watford can do us a favour and get a result tonight will be a big boost for us not to be in the bottom 3 for a week !!

    Will be hard for us to beat Watford away but if we start the way we did against West Ham we could sweep them aside as well our finishing needs to be better though !!

  • 126 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 18, 2016 at 1:18 PM

    Tsunki I lived here from being 8 years old before I moved to somerset, I must say though it is helpful living near the hosp lol. should be it for a few weeks now like.

    I hope Watford either win or draw tonight tbh

  • 127 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 18, 2016 at 1:18 PM

    So poor since taking over transfers they moved from the relegation zone to perennial European challengers. So poor that the majority of the current squad that are sitting pretty in fourth are Levy signings. Once again, I wish we had someone as incompetent running our transfers and football side.

    Recent signings, this summer: Seung Min and N’jie are young players coming into a new league, will take time to adjust. Wimmer was always back up like Trippier, Trippier looks a bargain at £3.5million. Alderweireld great signing. Couple taking time to settle in but no real disasters so far.

    Year before; Ben Davies good competition for Rose, Vorm very good back up keeper, Dier, great signing at a bargain price. Yedlin young, but gaining Prem experience on loan this season. Fazio poor so far, but difficult to get past Vertonghen and Alderweireld. Stambouli didn’t really get a chance, but they made a profit when selling him anyway. Dele Alli, no need to say anything. Overall a success.

    2 years ago; A very mixed bag, 3 good signings as detailed earlier, 4 who weren’t so good and have since been sold on. Eriksen has been key to them and a snip at £11million, Lamela took time to settle in but is now looking good 5 goals and 11 assists in 62 games in the Prem. Chadli has done well for them at just £7million. Soldado failed and resulted in a £15million loss, Paulinho actually had a good first season – 10 goals and 7 assists in around 60 games at Spurs, sold him for £9million at an £8million loss, but had a good spell and wasn’t a bad signing.

    The next year sees Vertonghen, Dempsey, Lloris come in.

    Not that poor at all really when you look at it.

    Anyway, I’m done on this topic, it is getting repetitive.

  • 128 AncientC // Jan 18, 2016 at 1:33 PM

    Lilongwe Geordie – According to yourself “Over the last 5 seasons Spurs have spent a net figure of c.-£41,200,000”

    And yet after Redknapp left, they have not qualified for the Champions league, in the meantime making more big budget bad signings than good.

    Wouldn’t money better spent and Champions League qualification have been more lucrative, to what they have now? Surely it would have been possible to have signed better players, whilst staying in the negative, or, hold onto your hats, with a small net spend. (If your numbers are correct, I haven’t checked)

    Remember, I have not criticised Levy over his managerial appointments, who in turn have got the younger players playing.

    Just because Levy makes initial improvements, it does not mean that once he gets to Champions League football, he can then be deemed successful for languishing outside of Champions League qualification ever since.

  • 129 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 18, 2016 at 1:35 PM

    There is no way we should be even contemplating paying money for Townsend in his present state of lack of fitness never mind £12/14M.A loan deal far better option with deal in summer once he has proved his fitness. Tom Ince a much better bet for my money. However in view of Dummett situation need quality LB as priority as Mbabu only cover for both sides with Colback as fall back.The lad Robertson from Hull perhaps? Feel sure we will get striker but who? Remy seems to be messing us about AGAIN!

  • 130 AncientC // Jan 18, 2016 at 1:40 PM

    “The next year sees Vertonghen, Dempsey, Lloris come in.” I noticed few players missing from that transfer window, oddly enough.

  • 131 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 18, 2016 at 1:41 PM

    according to SSN
    we are still in talks for Townsend & want berahino

  • 132 SPRINGY // Jan 18, 2016 at 1:47 PM

    afternoon all,hope everyones well..
    seems like the townsend move relys heavily on thauvin moving the way its stalled a bit,and rumours about gomis seem to be growing as well……yes or no to gomis people?

  • 133 Jack Root // Jan 18, 2016 at 1:48 PM

    Steady on! You’ll get the old timer ranting on again. I have to admit that you were always my favourite so I thought I’d join.
    Amazing way a win does for the blog.
    Thanks for the welcome, I think

  • 134 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 18, 2016 at 1:49 PM

    The figure is from the very same website you used to ty and prove his signings were bad. I notice you didn’t counter any of the points, or provide your own analysis on the signings.

    As for the year ‘Arry made the Champions League, that was the year before Man City’s influx of cash, and City made Champions league at Spurs expense the following season. But if you believe it was down to who Spurs signed rather than Man City spending a fortune, then you can continue with that. They would have qualified the next year as they finished in forth, but didn’t as Chelsea won it and got their spot. It is misrepresentative of the situation to say that it was down to signings they missed out.

    I’ve said I can’t be bothered with this anymore, we are going round in circles. If you think finishing in the top 6 for the last 6 years is bad then I think you should probably save yourself the trouble of following Newcastle for the foreseeable future.

  • 135 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 18, 2016 at 1:52 PM

    I noticed you named 6 over the whole period. What is your point?

    AncientC // Jan 18, 2016 at 1:40 PM

    “The next year sees Vertonghen, Dempsey, Lloris come in.” I noticed few players missing from that transfer window, oddly enough.

  • 136 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 18, 2016 at 1:56 PM

    Just for completeness, they also signed Dembele (success) Holtby (trebled their money) Sigurdsson (borderline for them) Fryers (failure at £3million) Adebayor (initial success before he tails off and becomes an issue as always. Good value at £5million though).

    Done with this now.

  • 137 will die for the toon army // Jan 18, 2016 at 1:57 PM


    U r very right man. Levy has improved Spurs greatly he is a sports man thru and thru. If he had alot of money available he would have made them great.

    Every one makes mistakes with players and managers but still never gives up looking for the better option available. I would like being in Spurs position right now.

  • 138 Pitmatic // Jan 18, 2016 at 1:57 PM

    Townsend’s apparent preference to sign for Newcastle is encouraging, in that it at least shows there’s still some kudos in playing for this club. He must know that in signing for a club like West Brom, he’d be in danger of becoming a Premier League journeyman like Kieran Richardson.

    It’s an interesting stand-off in many ways. Townsend must be desperate to play in order to make the Euros, but only if he makes the Euros could he be considered worth anywhere near the £14m Levy is said to be demanding. You’d think a loan deal with various clauses would be the sensible compromise, but there does seem to be a fair degree of malice in the way he’s been hung out to dry. What happened to players being able to buy themselves out their contracts?

  • 139 belgrade fan // Jan 18, 2016 at 1:59 PM

    Do we now wait to sign Town and then offload Thauvin for Batshuai, or it is opposite?? And I just don’t see that we will just send Thauvin back. What exactly is happening with all this mess??

  • 140 will die for the toon army // Jan 18, 2016 at 2:00 PM


    TOP 6 is very good. Believe u me, Spurs will win Europa one day and qualify for Champions league.

  • 141 AncientC // Jan 18, 2016 at 2:01 PM

    Lilongwe Geordie – There are 4 league positions from which Tottenham can make their claim for Champions League football. There has also been a bigger window of opportunity than 1 year since Harry Redknapp left.

    If you believe Levy has done well in the transfer market, you are free to that opinion. I will have to disagree with you.

    I have to go, so I do not have time to list players Tottenham have signed and give my assessment. Yes, they have signed some good players, but they have wasted a huge amount on poor players – the Modric & Bale money should have been an opportunity for the club to propel itself into the top 4. The opportunity was wasted, in my belief by Levy.

    Back later. Have a good day all.

  • 142 Tsunki // Jan 18, 2016 at 2:02 PM

    Jib naw I meant SD were the ones not paying the rent. Not a good part of the analogy I conceded. Probably should have said grasping relatives trying to cash in on the inheritance? I give up. Houses are nowt but hard work.

  • 143 Tsunki // Jan 18, 2016 at 2:02 PM

    JR I thought Belfast was your favourite, make your mind up.

  • 144 will die for the toon army // Jan 18, 2016 at 2:03 PM

    If Thauvin was hardworking he would succeed.

    Townsend will b a good addition.

    Berahino with Mitro. Mitrovic any day.

  • 145 clinath@ed // Jan 18, 2016 at 2:06 PM

    Ancient vs Lilongwe. That is how to have a debate chaps. Both standing their ground, backing up their arguments with data….and not a real insult in sight. Well done boys, enjoyed it.

  • 146 will die for the toon army // Jan 18, 2016 at 2:07 PM

    In CHARNELY i trust, he will get us the best deal.

  • 147 will die for the toon army // Jan 18, 2016 at 2:09 PM


    True very interesting

  • 148 Tsunki // Jan 18, 2016 at 2:17 PM

    I wonder if “Throw myself under a Juggernaut For Mike & His Underlings” might work as a moniker? Doesn’t roll off the tongue as well as some but it’s a start.

  • 149 Tsunki // Jan 18, 2016 at 2:18 PM

    Well gotta go for now, need another toner cartridge and the Jammy Dodgers are getting low… back by tea time.

  • 150 Pitmatic // Jan 18, 2016 at 2:21 PM

    The bigger clubs, and you could probably include Spurs in that list, have an inherent advantage in the transfer market, in that the value of the players they sign tends to increase on account their association with the club, even if they can’t make the team. Chelsea is the clearest example, with profits often made on players who’ve been nowhere near the first eleven, and minimal losses on high profile failures. In contrast, our duds prove impossible to shift, although thankfully this summer should see a whole raft of them finally cleared out.

  • 151 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 18, 2016 at 2:23 PM

    Chelsea loan players out to top flight sides in other parts of Europe though, that is how they increase the value for many of them. I read somewhere they have around 70 players out on loan this season!

  • 152 lesh // Jan 18, 2016 at 2:28 PM

    According to the Chron, £27m (€35m) is the price Charnley’s slapped on Sissoko.

    We’ve seen references to the way Levy prices players and if was looking for £27m, he’d be asking for something like £40m then negotiating from there.

    That’s the difference between Levy and Charnley – one’s got some nous and the other hasn’t.

    As an aside, The Grauniad’s named Shlevey, Janmaat and Gini in its team of the weekend. No Colo though and that’s surprising.

  • 153 Pitmatic // Jan 18, 2016 at 2:30 PM

    I actually think this team will now stay up this season without any more reinforcements. I’d want to see how Riviere gets on before I could be sure of it, but with Cisse likely to be back again in March, and Armstrong available for recall in the worst-case scenario, I just can’t see us not outscoring Sunderland, Swansea and Norwich. Might there be a case for us, ahem, keeping our powder dry, rather than lashing out £30m on two pretty risky signings..?

  • 154 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 18, 2016 at 2:31 PM

    To be fair £27million for Sissoko is way more than he is worth. But no issue with the club pushing for more in my opinion. We wanted both Koulibaly and Gabbiadini from them according to paper rumours. Maybe cash plus player for Sissoko could work for us, and give us more money to spend on a Sissoko replacement.

  • 155 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 18, 2016 at 2:35 PM

    The blog has become very up beat since Saturday’s win but we must not get complacent. Still need to strengthen at the back. Can’t rely on bare bones every week in case of further injury / suspensions even though Dummett not as bad as 1st thought Need to offload at least Obertan, Marvaux & Willo. If not just don’t name them in the 25 along with Krul because if he’s out for rest of season wots the point. Just get in temp cover for 5 months.

  • 156 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 18, 2016 at 2:38 PM

    Why slap a price on Sissoko- just say NOT FOR SALE under contract end of. Selling our best players & failing to replace them is why we are where we are today.
    You simply can’t improve a team by selling your best players.

  • 157 Pitmatic // Jan 18, 2016 at 2:42 PM


    I know, it’s crazy, and should really be outlawed. I just think that on top of that, there’s always this assumption that they must have something about them to be at a big club in the first place. Same with Man Utd offloading the likes of Gibson, Cleverley, Obertan etc. to Premier League rivals for decent money. It gives them a bit of a free pass in the transfer market, which we just don’t have.

  • 158 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 18, 2016 at 2:47 PM

    Pitmatic one swallow doesn’t make a summer. How can we possibly survive at full back with only two recognised full backs having to be available week in week out without injury/suspension. Won’t happen. If we don’t address it watch wot happens 1st week in Feb. There is bound to be a problem. We have the same issue at CB. Our back ups are. Sick note Saylor (never fit) Willo the Week (just not good enough so sell him to Wolves if they want him) & Lascelles inexperienced & one for the future). Get cover in those positions, retain the jewels in the crown, sign a decent striker & we’ll be OK. If it’s cash only for Townsend wouldn’t bother & would tell Thauvin he’s staying & must earn his corn.

  • 159 lesh // Jan 18, 2016 at 2:57 PM


    Agreed about Sissoko valuation but we should be digging in and saying he’s not for sale then asking for a crazy price a la Levy and Bale.

    However, if Sissoko is up for sale, we should get his replacement, a better player in before we sell…. in the dying hours of the window.

  • 160 Pitmatic // Jan 18, 2016 at 3:02 PM

    West Lancs

    Don’t get me wrong, I’d welcome and expect further reinforcements, but just wonder whether the major deals we’re rumoured to be lining up could not be bettered in the summer. On the CBs, I’m slightly more optimistic. If Taylor gets himself fit, I can’t see any signing new to the Premier League getting in ahead of him in the middle of a relegation fight, and Lascelles has looked okay when he’s been involved. Agree that FB is a major concern, though if Willems is their number one target that will complicate things, as I think he’s still out injured.

  • 161 eaststandgeordie1982 // Jan 18, 2016 at 3:10 PM

    Would anyone take Jordan Rhodes?? Around 12m is what Blackburn are asking for.

  • 162 topmanz // Jan 18, 2016 at 3:15 PM

    Buy back Debuchy if Tottenham ain’t letting go of Townsend. Cash out Sissoko and push Janmaat to take over his position.

  • 163 jimmysmith // Jan 18, 2016 at 3:18 PM

    I don’t think McC deserves any particular praise just yet. We are 4th bottom after 22 games, and were second bottom after 21, with a decent group of footballers.

    There have been extenuating circumstances, and we have played well at times without what would appear just reward. But praise, give over. Ultimately it’s his job to have us up the table and we aren’t.

  • 164 Tsunki // Jan 18, 2016 at 3:26 PM

    Pitmatic I have a sneaking feeling that your thinking on our survival is not a novel idea in the nufc boardroom. I await the outcome of the January window with some degree of optimism, but not the blind sort. There’s the worrying feeling that already the job is done and planning for market of a few of the fatter birds in the summer is already under way in earnest.

  • 165 Tsunki // Jan 18, 2016 at 3:28 PM

    West Lancs – wasn’t it Willo the Wisp?

  • 166 toon kk // Jan 18, 2016 at 3:30 PM

    We seem to have played certainly better the last couple of games, i do think if we’d had more cutting edge in front of goal we would be further up the table, hence the need for a quality striker. I’m all for giving Macca more time, we’ve been pretty poor for a long time with a terrible loosing attitude and no motivation. A hard task for any manager to break.
    Hopefully we can pull away from the relegation zone but we have to be consistent.

  • 167 SPRINGY // Jan 18, 2016 at 3:32 PM

    lee ryder 2hrs ago
    newcastle have had no contact about sissoko and are not interested in selling him

  • 168 welshgeordie9 // Jan 18, 2016 at 3:32 PM

    I can’t see swans beating Watford tonight, how times have changed.

  • 169 welshgeordie9 // Jan 18, 2016 at 3:35 PM

    Would be a really stupid move if we sold sissoko, i for one would be really annoyed if he left.

  • 170 SPRINGY // Jan 18, 2016 at 3:36 PM

    im the same welsh mate

  • 171 Graeme // Jan 18, 2016 at 3:39 PM

    Well, it looks as though we are determined to hold onto Sissoko!!

  • 172 Tsunki // Jan 18, 2016 at 3:52 PM

    Howww muchhh?

    Ha ha really.

  • 173 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Jan 18, 2016 at 3:58 PM

    26.6M ??? Thats very specific…not to mention crazily high. Does it work out to a nice rounded number in Euros? I suppose if Napoli want him then it makes sense. No way anyone will pay that.

  • 174 toon kk // Jan 18, 2016 at 3:58 PM

    I don’t know it this has been posted before but SSN reporting we’re having a hold up over Townsend, whether it’s a loan move with a view to buy, thanks Spurs just want to sell now, and Thauvin is not allowed to leave until we get a replacement.
    No mention of a new striker.

  • 175 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:00 PM

    Glad of the win on saturday, but if we are going to play attacking football for the rest of the aeason, we need more goals as we wi?l leak a few at the back. A goal scorer is essential now, even before a CB.

  • 176 SPRINGY // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:03 PM

    26.6M pounds works out at nice round number of 35m euros

  • 177 nut meg // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:03 PM

    Telegraph says the Townsend fee might force united to go to Phillips….hope thats true

  • 178 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:04 PM

    Toon kk

    Spurs always throw a spanner in to nufc transfers, whether it’s delaying like this, or taking an interest in any targets we have, just to slow it down. They have done this for 10 years, and I for one have no idea why.

  • 179 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:05 PM


    Cheers. I suspected as much. Napoli couldnt afford that, and i doubt anyone who could would justify it for sissoko.

  • 180 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:11 PM

    So Phillips is available for 5 million ?? Then why the hell are we not after him straight away rather than mess about with Townsend ?!?

    Phillips is a good winger who sets up lots of goals with pace would be perfect for Mitrovic !!

  • 181 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:12 PM

    I want townsend but Phillips at £5 mill makes more sense to me

  • 182 hibbitt // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:14 PM

    nut meg
    for 14m we could get redmond and phillips(5m) got to be a better deal

  • 183 Tsunki // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:19 PM

    Ah but think what we could get for €35m euros. Lots of Thauvins.

  • 184 nut meg // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:21 PM

    Yes we could,only problem is I doubt Norwich would sell to a relegation rival but he’s a player that I’d take no sweat .

  • 185 Ahmad Tabanjeh // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:23 PM

    shelvey <3

  • 186 hibbitt // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:25 PM

    nut meg
    total agree just making the point that want far to much for townsend
    Phillips for for 5m should be a no brainer

  • 187 check the toastie // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:31 PM

    this is wot qpr fans think of matty Phillips, not great to be fair.

  • 188 Tsunki // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:33 PM

    Agbonlahor? What’s his average? Half a dozen goals a season? Hmm. I think we’ve got better records here.

  • 189 ronaldo aarons // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:33 PM

    If berahino is target for us then it would make sense to go for Redmond either now or in the summer since they are supposed to be fairly good mates.

  • 190 brklyngeordie // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:35 PM

    Not anti Townsend but if we could deal for Phillips for cheaper and not have to deal with Spurs would be happy with that

  • 191 JDdubai // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:37 PM

    Townsend on loan then back out of it in the summer and get Redmond when Norwich relegated.

    Out of all those mentioned, Redmond would be the first choice for me.

  • 192 ronaldo aarons // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:37 PM

    I have to say agbonlahor is a poor shout. He is now fat and has lost the majority of his pace. Fat maybe a little harsh but you get the point.

  • 193 Tsunki // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:39 PM

    Rolando – ” Jolly” might be better.

  • 194 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:40 PM

    Agbonlahor?? A few years ago maybe, but i think he’s a bit past it now. Doubt he would add many goals to the side these days.

  • 195 Tsunki // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:40 PM

    Ronaldo. Hmm there’s another jolly character ha ha.

  • 196 Belfast // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:41 PM

    Agreed on Phillips wanted him in the summer and the Villa bloke has more kids scattered around Birmingham than goals.

  • 197 eaststandgeordie1982 // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:41 PM

    We can get shola for free

  • 198 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:42 PM


    Whats the colective noun for a group of Thauvins?

  • 199 Tsunki // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:43 PM

    I dunno about all the faff on with Townsend but if he was reasonably priced he’d be worth a shot at reviving his prospects here. He did look a bit tasty when he first broke out, maybe he just got a bit big for his boots when England called?

  • 200 Belfast // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:43 PM

    Agbonlahor that’s the one ! About 10 kids to different females.

  • 201 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:44 PM

    is it called a crap?
    a flop?

  • 202 Tsunki // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:44 PM

    I thinks it’s a Dither.

  • 203 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:45 PM

    A flop of Thauvins has a ring to it lol

  • 204 Tsunki // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:45 PM

    That’s the one Belfast scored loads in his career but not many goals boom boom Aye theng yowww

  • 205 Tsunki // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:48 PM

    Shhhh..eastand said Shola but I think he got away with it.

  • 206 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:49 PM


    A flop of thauvins?… that works, but I also like Tsunkis Dither of thauvins.

  • 207 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:49 PM



  • 208 Belfast // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:50 PM

    Oooooooooh yes Skunki ! Think he’d three girls pregnant at the same time at one point.

    Hopefully they all got lucky and don’t look like him.

  • 209 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:50 PM

    Surely it’s a dither of Obertan’s?

  • 210 Tsunki // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:51 PM

    Well the printers full of paper, biros on every desk and the coffee machine set for the morning so time to get on my bike with a basket on the front and pedal off home. Back in time for the budgie botherers’ routine though.

  • 211 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:51 PM

    How about a Pants of Thuavins, or a Naff of Thauvins

  • 212 Tsunki // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:52 PM

    Was that his only hat trick then belfast?

  • 213 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:52 PM

    Budgie botherer?

  • 214 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:53 PM

    I like the sound of a Naff of Thauvins

  • 215 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:53 PM

    A group of Obertans is called a Shoal, (same as squid)

  • 216 Tsunki // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:53 PM

    A Confusion of Obertans. A Skip of Cabellas. A Crunch of Tiotes. A Snore of Colbacks.

  • 217 eaststandgeordie1982 // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:53 PM


    I think I did phew

  • 218 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:54 PM

    I think Budgie Botherer must be Geordie two.

  • 219 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:55 PM

    I like all those Tsunki lol

  • 220 hibbitt // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:55 PM

    check the toastie
    very similar to what the spurs fans say about townsend and he could be 9m more!!!

  • 221 eaststandgeordie1982 // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:56 PM

    Just been looking at Phillips stats not the greatest really he’s had 53 shots this season 21 on target and scored 5, he has 3 assists. Reading what the qpr fans were saying it could be a big mistake. But I agree the fee for Townsend is shocking considering the amount of football he has played.

  • 222 firebug666 // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:56 PM

    I’m gonna go for a persecution of Thauvin’s.

    This is only because I personally don’t think he has been given a fair chance yet, and find it hard to judge a player on a mere 5 or 10 minutes of a game, played on the left instead of the right.

    That’s it nuff said I’ll stop preaching now.

  • 223 Belfast // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:57 PM

    Haha I think so, though I’m nearly sure he also got a brace in Wolverhampton.

  • 224 brklyngeordie // Jan 18, 2016 at 4:59 PM

    See that McClaren is talking about Colback at LB I’ve been saying for sometime I feel this would be a good move for him and the squad feel he offers little in midfield but could be brilliant at LB this could be a master stroke especially if Saivet can come in and and get on same page with Shelvey the team right now is really taking shape and becoming pleasure to watch would love it if we can finish season in front of palace and can’t wait for our rematch w them

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