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McClaren – Apart From The Two Goals – We Were Terrific

7:11 pm, Saturday, January 23rd, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 114 Comments

Steve McClaren is often struggling in his press conferences on exactly what positive things to talk about – and for the 12th time in just 23 league games this afternoon he had to go before the cameras to explain what happened in yet another defeat.

And it’s not unusual what Steve said after our 2-1 defeat at Watford today.

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Quique Flores and Steve McClaren today
Guess who was winning?

We started the game well and were in control – and then they scored.

Here’s more detail on what McClaren actually said after this particular defeat – out fourth loss on the trot on the road:

“We started the game so well and looked in control,” “The two goals really killed us. It’s disappointing – we fought and came back.”

“We threw everything at them – it wasn’t our day.” “We talked about focus at half-time and the first 10 minutes being important.”

“The second goal was from an aimless cross into the box. We then had a mountain to climb.”

“Apart from the two goals – the performance was terrific. We’ve got to get it right at both ends.” 

“We’ve had a tough Christmas. The last few results we’ve been growing and getting better. We lick our wounds and go again.”

Let’s make that – we’ve had another very tough and depressing season and it’s not just been the Christmas period – what about the first 8 games when we picked up only three draws?

This is really hard to take for supporters after the calamities of last season, when John Carver was put in charge by Lee Charnley and John was just completely and utterly over his head.

And what did Lee do about it – absolutely nothing.

And Steve McClaren needs to understand that given our perilous position in the league table – the results are now a lot more important than the performances.

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  • 1 Ron Knee // Jan 23, 2016 at 7:14 PM

    Superb analysis, Steve.

  • 2 Rotonda heights // Jan 23, 2016 at 7:14 PM

    Sampauli and benitez are available now

    Only consolation is CP are dropping like a stone.

    What did carr ever really see in mitro. he can’t beat anyone with pace or skill and seems to totally mistime his jumps at crosses.

    If we have to beg remy then get it done, a pacy striker who knows where the net is, cos the current lot couldn’t hit the proverbial barn door. While we’re at it Guerreiro for LB please

    You know the game is up when you see gouffran come on. How can Shelvey be so night and day from last week!

    We have a pile of absolute s–t mainly from france with gouff, obertan,marv, rivi, haidara, thauvin etc.

    SM stop writing emails and get some proper management done or rather just walk..

  • 3 hibbitt // Jan 23, 2016 at 7:15 PM

    incase you haven’t noticed we are in trouble

  • 4 spitfire_ // Jan 23, 2016 at 7:16 PM

    I’m.sick.of. hearing. this. crap.

  • 5 Owldman // Jan 23, 2016 at 7:18 PM

    Why the hell did we not start with Perez McLaren is now a liability, not a clue no compassion, no doubt Ashley is wondering what the hell have I done appointing this man.

  • 6 archaeomag // Jan 23, 2016 at 7:19 PM

    … if we had not lost – we would have won … it’s so frustrating..

  • 7 RUNAWAY777 // Jan 23, 2016 at 7:19 PM

    In control u can play great play them of the park but no point on the board says it all just keep your mouth shut SM

  • 8 Jail for Ashley // Jan 23, 2016 at 7:22 PM

    Just watched it on SSN he pulls that face like he’s having a shite and says we’re not scoring enough away from home, the commitment is there, the organisation is there and we’re playing good football just not getting results, we shouldn’t have to keep scoring two to get a result.

  • 9 anthc // Jan 23, 2016 at 7:23 PM

    Same drivel from mclaren after a poor result. Not bothered about the football at the minute just want points on the board. On a plus note five extra games in the championship if your daft like me and have a season ticket.

  • 10 switch365 // Jan 23, 2016 at 7:23 PM

    The difference between the rest of the league and the bottom 3, is that us, the mackems and villa couldn’t make a solid back 4 if you merged all 3 teams together.

    STOKE, PALACE, WEST BROM, we’ve scored more goals than all 3, but they don’t have the Keystone Kops at the back.

    Yes goals win games, but the only way to lose games is to concceed.

  • 11 the broons // Jan 23, 2016 at 7:24 PM

    I have not once called for his head even during this terrible tirade of results and PERFORMANCES.

    But if the words Ed has quoted there are true, then Mcclaren needs sacking now! If that is what he bases as a terrific performance on then we need rid of this overrated gonk as quick possible.

  • 12 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 23, 2016 at 7:25 PM

    I haven’t seen the game but just watched the video highlights. For the first goal it seems Colo was ball watching? Is that right? Their striker takes advantage to slip away. When Colo wakes up, it’s all too late. That’s what it looks like to me. This is what some of us have been saying. Toonbrother’s been pointing it out but people don’t see it or don’t want to see it. It’s the story of our season. Can’t score and can’t defend.

  • 13 NoahJ // Jan 23, 2016 at 7:25 PM

    I am now convinced that he doesn’t actually believe these speeches he gives to the press; he does it to deflect criticism and keep an upbeat positivity (however out of touch that appears)

    Either that, or he’s actually deluded. In which case, he is in no fit mental state to be guiding us through the toughest challenge of our recent history.

  • 14 Jail for Ashley // Jan 23, 2016 at 7:27 PM

    If we keep playing like this we’ll be ok ???
    Do we keep saying that until it becomes mathematically impossible !

  • 15 switch365 // Jan 23, 2016 at 7:28 PM

    Is it time to give Rivier a run of games and use Mitro off the bench?

    I’m all for giving players time to settle, time to get used to the pace and ferocity of the league and time to get to learn the runs of their team mates, but at some point there comes a time when you have to say, sorry lad, but you’re dropped.

  • 16 juan // Jan 23, 2016 at 7:29 PM

    STEVE MCCLAREN “” apart from finishing in the bottom 3 we’ve had a terrific season”” ??

  • 17 lesh // Jan 23, 2016 at 7:31 PM

    The liner sank, all lost but reports said it was a marvelous cruise!

  • 18 Jail for Ashley // Jan 23, 2016 at 7:31 PM

    Was the performance terrific ?

  • 19 Obertans_on_roids // Jan 23, 2016 at 7:31 PM

    Apart from the 12 defeats – We’ve been unbeatable this season.

  • 20 jimiley // Jan 23, 2016 at 7:32 PM

    Does anybody ever get the sack at Newcastle anymore or can all the executives be shit all the time and then get a pay rise??? Do you have to shoot the Pope or the Queen to be dismissed? Just being shit at your job seems to be a badge of honour bringing you into Ashleys inner circle

  • 21 jimiley // Jan 23, 2016 at 7:33 PM

    Switch 365
    Are you losing your marbles? Mitro and/or Riviere. Both are shit. Relegation is guaranteed. No goals.

  • 22 mainemagpie // Jan 23, 2016 at 7:34 PM

    “We just said to the players that we won’t have a problem if we keep performing like that every week,”

    Hey Steve, if we keep on performing as we have over the last 3 games we will end up with an additional 19 points making 40 after 38 games. The problem is that all Swansea, Norwich and Bournemouth have to do is play like they are playing and they will end up with more than 40 points, relegating Newcastle. So Steve, the thing is, we have to perform BETTER than that, and then we won’t have a problem.

    Persisting with Mitrovich as a lone striker is killing us as he can’t effing score!! And to say his hold up play is good is irrelevant because it doesn’t create goals!

  • 23 WWSBRD // Jan 23, 2016 at 7:34 PM

    He seems to be reading from the same song sheet as those before him doesn’t he

  • 24 archaeomag // Jan 23, 2016 at 7:37 PM

    If he keeps saying that he can’ t fault the players – when is he going to admit it’s his fault ?

  • 25 NYMAG // Jan 23, 2016 at 7:38 PM

    I don’t know what game he was watching because we were terrible. He got it completely wrong tactically. Ighalo completely dominated colo and they did the exact same thing they did when we played them at home and we learned nothing. Losing to Watford 3 times in the same season is atrocious.

    I hope Ashley watched that shower and realizes we need to push deals through for Townsend and Berahino as well as a center half.

  • 26 lesh // Jan 23, 2016 at 7:44 PM


  • 27 Tuttelbom // Jan 23, 2016 at 7:45 PM

    A thing that is pretty easy to see is that a far majority of the players on pitch today wasnt there mentally.
    We got outrunned, outpassed and outplayed, and hasnt it been for some dedicated few this would be an ugly evening.
    It helped a bit after we went down down by 2, (or was it Watford stepping down a bit) but SM clearly isnt the right man for this job.
    The main priority for MA now, should be to dip big in the manager market. Get in one that the players can put some beliefe in. And a worldclass main striker + a worldclass CB is whats neede now to avoid relegation.

  • 28 lesh // Jan 23, 2016 at 7:49 PM


    I’ll try again (damned phone!)

    Why didn’t he start with Perez? Because he’s been told to try all striking options, nay play all fringe players to prove that they’re not up to the Prem.

    And then, having lost valuable points since the window opens, Charnley might decide to get his asre into gear and buy what we need – good players for CB, LB and striker – not Carr’s recommendations!

  • 29 Average_Contents // Jan 23, 2016 at 7:52 PM

    We played well apart from the two goals.

    That’s OK then?

    Trying hard to not dislike him now. It’s beginning to bubble.

  • 30 catchy in norway // Jan 23, 2016 at 8:02 PM

    Let’s be a little bit fair here, the first goal was offside, that’s a fact , you cannot blame Shteve for that, the guy is quick enough without getting a yard head start.

    After that we chase the game, just like manuer game

  • 31 welshgeordie9 // Jan 23, 2016 at 8:03 PM

    Don’t take this the wrong way but I’m glad that we have lost today, if it means that the board have now got to get off they arses and get players in quickly like Townsend and that west brom player then so be it, if they made decent bids for them in the first place then they would be right now, also we need defenders in as well.

    Time is ticking clowns.

  • 32 Laurent Robert The Legend // Jan 23, 2016 at 8:05 PM


  • 33 Belfast // Jan 23, 2016 at 8:06 PM

    If that was terrific I’m dreading a “poor” performance

  • 34 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 23, 2016 at 8:09 PM

    So many calls for a CB. So much support for Colo. I just wonder who this much desired CB is meant to replace?

  • 35 Jail for Ashley // Jan 23, 2016 at 8:13 PM

    Your wiilingness to absolve Mclaren of any blame is just as one sided as your adamance that everything was Pardews fault.

  • 36 Jail for Ashley // Jan 23, 2016 at 8:14 PM

    We pretty much heard from Elliott the other day. Dummet is Collos replacement, I bet Taylor is offered a pay as you play e tension as well.

  • 37 angelswithdirtyfaces // Jan 23, 2016 at 8:16 PM

    Statistics might not prove anything – but can anyone find any evidence from the last three or four seasons that proves they are adequate ?
    Even in the 5th place season we only had a +5 GD

  • 38 Belfast // Jan 23, 2016 at 8:16 PM

    Mitrovic buries that chance in the first half it’s a completely different game though.

    We badly need a striker, like somebody pointed out earlier the ball went into the box a number of times and the bloke was about five yards behind it.

  • 39 Jail for Ashley // Jan 23, 2016 at 8:18 PM

    You love stats to back up your arguments, so lets be fair. They had more shots than us on target off target and more possession. Mclaren changed the forward line that played so well against W Ham. He left it until three minutes to go before bringing on Riverie.

  • 40 toon kk // Jan 23, 2016 at 8:18 PM

    We played the same today as we usually do, with no cutting edge, lack of quality, lethargic and looking Basically lost, proving we’re relegation candidates.

  • 41 angelswithdirtyfaces // Jan 23, 2016 at 8:18 PM

    >>>>>>>the DEFENCE >>>>>

  • 42 Jail for Ashley // Jan 23, 2016 at 8:19 PM

    If Bob was my aunty…..

  • 43 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 23, 2016 at 8:27 PM

    Whether he was offside or not, he didn’t need to be. Colo was ball watching and he peeled away wide. Colo would never have caught him either way. This is what happens most weeks. Colo ball watches.

    Great to see Lascelles score a goal like that. Colo has been trying unsuccessfully for almost a decade to connect like that. Of course it takes bravery and aggression, something Colo hasn’t got unfortunately.

  • 44 beermonkey // Jan 23, 2016 at 8:31 PM

    what were peoples opinion of laschelles
    not the goal his defending

  • 45 Belfast // Jan 23, 2016 at 8:33 PM

    And fanny was my uncle ??

    Aye basically they took their chances and we didn’t.

    Sissoko though 25 million ? Bite their hand off and buy a goalscorer. Coloccini will get the blame for the second goal like but watch Sissoko.

    Couple of opportunities to score in the second half and the players involved completely shot themselves in fear of being hurt.

    Credit to Lacaselles though who I think got his teeth knocked out to score his goal.

  • 46 Jack Root // Jan 23, 2016 at 8:35 PM

    Belfast @38.
    I agree. This is not the time to panic but to use the remaining time in the window to secure our future

  • 47 welshgeordie9 // Jan 23, 2016 at 8:37 PM


    You clearly have got a bad memory if you think colo hasn’t got bravery or aggression, don’t you remember last weeks last minute tackle and again against man utd.

  • 48 Jail for Ashley // Jan 23, 2016 at 8:39 PM

    Shola scored a belter for Bolton, What’s the odds for a comeback if we hit that championship.

  • 49 Belfast // Jan 23, 2016 at 8:40 PM

    Laselles* that’s a tricky one. Aye he was probably out best player imo

  • 50 Munster Mag // Jan 23, 2016 at 8:42 PM

    This is a standard post match interview. I hate positivism just for the sake of being positive. Give me a realist all day long. If we go down, can we please have steve bruce? Oh wait,catchy wants a foreigner like that useless bloke solsjaer

  • 51 welshgeordie9 // Jan 23, 2016 at 8:43 PM

    It is the time to panic, I’ve just looked at the fixtures from now until the of the season and I’ve two words to say.

    Not Good.

  • 52 Belfast // Jan 23, 2016 at 8:44 PM

    *Lascelles* jesus

  • 53 welshgeordie9 // Jan 23, 2016 at 8:45 PM

    Shouldn’t have had this clown that’s for sure, yes pardew came up with excuses but this one he’s 10 times worse.

  • 54 Jack Root // Jan 23, 2016 at 8:49 PM

    I have watched a number of our recent games. This was amongst the poorest in terms of being disjointed as team. Mitrovic was a lumbering oaf and we lacked a cutting edge. We need a proven goalscorer or in all likelihood we will be relegated. That’s the reality of the situation.
    Just why didn’t we buy Austin ? He was just what we wanted. Berthing has pace and spark Mitrovic as he needs help. He was a real lost soul who towards the end looked as if he couldn’t be bothered.

  • 55 Jack Root // Jan 23, 2016 at 8:51 PM


  • 56 Munster Mag // Jan 23, 2016 at 8:58 PM

    Jack we had guys on here who think they know the game inside out saying Austin at 4mill didnt suit us. No we dont want an 18 goal a year man. Deffo not.

  • 57 Jail for Ashley // Jan 23, 2016 at 8:58 PM

    Stuart Pearce nailed on if we go down. I’m sure he won a manager of the month once, he managed in the PL once and is desperate for a job at a big club again. All the qualifications needed to work for Mikey at our great club.

  • 58 JamesToon // Jan 23, 2016 at 9:00 PM

    Need a proven goalscorer, left back and centre half.

    We were a shambles today and it was a tactical nightmare from mcclaren, why the hell do you change a system based on 1 player being injured, its a pardew esc thing to do.

    Secretly I’m hoping we stay up and bournemouth go down so we could get eddie howe, one of the best young up and coming managers in europe imo

  • 59 JamesToon // Jan 23, 2016 at 9:01 PM

    Unfortunately i think bournemouth are a class above us atm, they seem to be able to dominate the teams around us and are starting to get their rewards

  • 60 Munster Mag // Jan 23, 2016 at 9:03 PM

    Jail, please…!! We cudnt be worse under “the unmentionable one”….as rotunda calls him. We might have about 4 more points but that wud help. I wudnt want him but smc’s baseless positivity is hurting me. I was waiting for the “we were unlucky” story….

  • 61 Grafton83 // Jan 23, 2016 at 9:05 PM

    Everyone needs to chill out and realise it’s perfectly ok to get relegated.

    Think about it properly, everything would be ok.

    We’d be back eventually, probably with new owners, new chairman, coaches, scouts, manager etc

    Thinking long term it might be best for the club, painful for a while but necessary if we’re ever going to compete for trophies again we need new ownership and top to bottom change. It’s the only way so I say welcome it

  • 62 Munster Mag // Jan 23, 2016 at 9:08 PM

    James, correct. It villa,makems, nufc, norwich or swansea. Am hoping for a wba collapse.i thought we were safe after last week so gutted tonight. Another shit motd coming up ffs. Paul goddard please.

  • 63 bladeuser // Jan 23, 2016 at 9:09 PM

    SMAC putting it simply is a F@@@@@@ idiot

  • 64 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 23, 2016 at 9:09 PM

    That’s not bravery and aggression. It might be in Wales but not here.

  • 65 Munster Mag // Jan 23, 2016 at 9:12 PM

    I preferred going to crappy clubs than man u etc. Rather beat Coventry than lose to chelsea! Maybe some consolation 🙂

  • 66 MidlandsMag // Jan 23, 2016 at 9:14 PM

    Jack Root @ 54

    Austin said in his interview after the match that Southampton was the only club linked to him that was on the up. We were obviously never in the running.

  • 67 Jack Root // Jan 23, 2016 at 9:29 PM

    He will do well at Southampton. He scored at will in a very poor QPR side, it was a no brainer signing . Hope Carr will surprise us with his range of scouting – purchases. Byram at West Ham from Leeds was a great buy for them. Leeds have a very good academy and our scouts should be familiar with target signings in the future. This was a role Mick Harford was going to fulfill for JK.

  • 68 Jack Root // Jan 23, 2016 at 9:33 PM

    What a good performance by Spurs. Palace lack a cutting edge just like us. But unlike our away win at Spurs we lacked spirit. Cohesion and determination. McClaren’s post match comments baffling in the extreme.

  • 69 Mister Tuff // Jan 23, 2016 at 9:34 PM

    Not denying dodgy news stories about possible player purchases perpetuates the myth that we are interested in getting top players in. Stops the natives gestting restless.

    When the results are not going our way people are more prepared to lambast the club for gambling away the future.
    The other teams in the PL generally are better as time goes by – we have not progressed pro rata so will find games more difficult.

  • 70 Toon Tang // Jan 23, 2016 at 9:35 PM

    So Flores has bent Mcclaren over and dry roasted him on 3 occasions eh. How is it even possible? Wouldn’t you just watch a vhs of the first defeat and then second defeat and just not do the same things.

  • 71 Canariestoon // Jan 23, 2016 at 9:42 PM

    Just watching football league on channel 5 as to see what the toon up against next season.

  • 72 Bambams // Jan 23, 2016 at 9:48 PM

    We can go on and on for ages but the simple truth is we are not good enough.
    We have needed a commanding CB for years and we still need a 15 goal striker.
    I honestly think we will go down this time- simply because we have had chances to get ourselves safe and not taken them, also I think there are only two teams worse than us.

  • 73 angelswithdirtyfaces // Jan 23, 2016 at 9:58 PM


    The head says its okay to get relegated, the heart says noooo.
    Yet we have 15 games left and need 40 pts so another 19.
    That is more than 1.25 average a game. That level of form would get us 48 pts over a season – roughly 10th position form. We are not showing anything like that form.

    We can definitely still survive but if we only beat WBA in February – losing to Everton and Chelsea away and Man City at home we will have 24pts and then need 16 pts for certain safety with only 11 games to go. I really doubt we are capable of showing that good form.
    What you’re saying is like “creative destruction”. If it comes to that so be it – maybe we should be anticipating that like Villa are. It’ll be like rats leaving the sinking ship if we do go down. We’ll struggle to keep players of Wini’s quality on board for sure. But we will get rid of a lot of deadwood, including Colo.. it’s an ill wind..

  • 74 toonking // Jan 23, 2016 at 10:05 PM


    thought you’d rather he was still in a job, well don’t worry as you say palace themselves are dropping he’ll be sacked and can return to newcastle. rather have ranieri myself but i guess he’ll be remaining at leicester whilst they continue challenging for title.

  • 75 Smileytoon // Jan 23, 2016 at 10:05 PM

    Guessing in the summer transfer window there was no kick back for Carr with Charlie Austin. Our loss Southamptons £3M pound gain. At least we didnt pay 4x as much for a non striker…

  • 76 toonking // Jan 23, 2016 at 10:08 PM

    BTW RH thought i’d remind you

    Rotonda heights // Jan 21, 2016 at 3:12 PM


    Austin is on 100k a week, also injury prone and has family and friends down South. You just have to let this one go, like Toonbrother with Colo and you, Mag 52 and Munster with AP.

  • 77 NYMAG // Jan 23, 2016 at 10:11 PM

    Catchy, first goal wasn’t offside, Ighalo times his run perfectly and checks back on-side just before the pass.

    Big step back after last week, which is basically standard for us and has been for years. Players can’t be bothered against “smaller” sides and play above their levels against top clubs.

    Completely out muscled and just out fought for the second goal. If we have a unit 6 5″ center half we all know we need we could win the first ball into the box and handle a physical player like Ighalo. We should have brought a player like this over the summer but we tried to cheap out and get by with Colo. I credit Colo with a return to form over recent games but he was very bad today, turned in the second half and just walks back. His fault for the first goal and just man-handled all game by Ighalo….Repeat of the thrashing they gave us at home.

  • 78 Harley // Jan 23, 2016 at 10:14 PM

    Beer monkey

    Lascelles had a really good game apart from 1 stray pass which nearly led to a goal.

    He looked great in the air and really strong. He’s got a great leap. He’s no slouch either for a big lad. He definitely looks like he has potential.

  • 79 Belfast // Jan 23, 2016 at 10:16 PM

    Roy of the winbar strikes again toon tang. Melchesters finest!

  • 80 toonking // Jan 23, 2016 at 10:27 PM

    despite the desperation some have for palace to be defeated even these guys will have to start showing hope of place and victory next month because palace will be playing against bournemouth, swansea and scums all in a matter of 5 weeks fixtures and on paper you’d say we’ve got defeats evertonA, chelsea A and city H.

  • 81 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 23, 2016 at 10:34 PM

    Lets look at the cold facts. Yes it’s disappointing to lose yet another match you thought we may have been able to win. However we have the following “team”out injured Krul, Mbabu, Williamson,Dummett,Haidara, Anita,Colback,Tiote, De Jong,Cisse,Toney Subs Obertan,Taylor(not played since long injury,)
    In addition we have Aarons & Riviere who have not featured till today.
    The there are : Marvaux,Thauvin & Gouffran who we are trying to offload.
    That is a total of 18 players who are either injured or felt not good enough for the squad. Not wishing to defend McLaren you must admit his team selection has to be limited by above.
    We need to cut the 25 registrations to make may for new signings which must be at very least a decent LB,CB & CF who has a good scoring record all of whom must hit the ground running.
    Williamson (to Wolves) & Obertan, Marvaux & possibly Gouffran must be offloaded.We will get at least £5M for Tiote once Chinese deal is reconstructed. I would replace with Dunk,CB(Brighton), Robertson,LB(Hull), Remy (on loan) Ince (Derby). Forget Townsend unless we can get him on loan. Possibly the experience of Debuchy or Enrique on loan & Crouch for 4months (who has got goals wherever he’s been even though he is getting towards the end of his career. This is my constructive suggestion to try to avoid relegation

  • 82 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 23, 2016 at 10:39 PM

    Quite right Toonking we must start looking at ourselves to pick up points and not merely look at other teams doing us a favour. Strange results have epitomised the Premiership this season with teams winning when most people thought they wouldn’t. We must address this crippling injury situation & fast. I think Mike Ashley will make more money available between now & the end of January . Just hope we spend it wisely on the three positions that severely need strengthening.

  • 83 2 goals 1 cup // Jan 23, 2016 at 10:44 PM

    were we really that bad today i know we really needed the win but not even the usual top 4 teams are picking up points like there expected colback dummet both missing today and a new formation to get used to and to be fair to Watford they pressed us very well and there forward is in top form this season. do we need new signings yes we do. Is colo still inconsistent and need dropping yes he does but i think we have his replacement in .Lascelles. but people harping on about Charlie Austin im sorry but no he not the answer the guys not even a upgrade on cisse

  • 84 Toon Tang // Jan 23, 2016 at 10:52 PM

    Hahaa Belfast, Rush winbar 😉

  • 85 Smileytoon // Jan 23, 2016 at 11:00 PM

    I hear what you’re saying. It’s not really as much about Charlie Austin specifically as it is about the fact that we need to go after a striker with EPL experience. We need a true striker. Mitrovich does not have the killer instinct. He seems indecisive, slow and is frankly ineffective.

  • 86 Shot Bru // Jan 23, 2016 at 11:06 PM

    i don’t understand the club, which is hardly surprising given the bizarre make up of the board!

    Why spend no money for years, then all of a sudden think it’s a good idea to give a bloke like Wally 70 million to spend in 6 months…mental.

    We Need defenders for all positions at the back, not An Dross Townsend.

    The reason we keep losing against the likes of Watford is because the players duck out of challenges when the ball comes into the box, prime example was there 2nd goal.

    No wonder Cathro is requesting better defenders to work with.

    As for the game Wally, out coached again by Flores.

  • 87 Munster Mag // Jan 23, 2016 at 11:09 PM

    AAAAARRRGGGHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!

    WTF ??????

    Steve , we werent “terrific” and we didnt “control the game” . Believe me, this guy’s spoin is WORSE that Pardew. At least Pardew used to give credit to other teams when they munched us.

    Jesus wept I could put my boot through the TV when i hear that sort of PR spin. HOW MUCH MORE IS OUR TEAM WORSE THAN WATFORD ??? Steve has has a full season and we are in the bottom 6 all the way through. Watford have a bunch of players half of us know nothing about …Pardedes…Britos ( who ??) , Cathcart , Jurado, Nyom. We have Shelvey, Wiji, Janmaat, Sissoko etc….and we are AWFUL.

    The difference ? For a start the CLOSE DOWN FAST.

    The loss is one thing, the rubbish from the spoofer manager is another.

  • 88 Munster Mag // Jan 23, 2016 at 11:15 PM

    West Lance, sorry mate, but the injured team you mentioned would have mede little difference today.

    However we have the following “team”out injured Krul, Mbabu, Williamson,Dummett,Haidara, Anita,Colback,Tiote, De Jong,Cisse,Toney Subs Obertan,Taylor(not played since long injury,)

    But do u know what ??

    If a buffoon of a cretin like Obertan played for Watford he would have killed us today.

    We employ useless managers and we never interview more than one.

    The other eejit we wanted was the Villa guy, who has dine sweet FA.

    Who appoints the manager and advises on the appointment


    Who advises us to buy Gouffy, Thauvin, De Jong , Rivi, the other De Jong, Marveaux, Santon, Mbiwa

    CARR !

    Ashley actually deserves more for his 70 million than this.

  • 89 toonking // Jan 23, 2016 at 11:16 PM

    west lance
    I calls these 3 palace fixtures and 3 newcastle fixtures 6 pointers.

    We beat everton, palace beat bournemouthe and the gap remains as is was when we lose to bournemouth

    We beat city, palace beat swansea and the gap is as it was when swansea beat us

    We beat city palace beat scums and the scum remain below us when they win the derby

    So the gap remains 1 point we beat the spurs teams and city beat swansea and we suvive.

  • 90 2 goals 1 cup // Jan 23, 2016 at 11:20 PM

    im just hoping we can get a couple of loans deals this window jose Enrique and remy would be ideal for us i dont see the point panic buying now and overpaying think it would be wiser and cheaper to wait till the summer to do the spending

  • 91 Tsunki // Jan 23, 2016 at 11:21 PM

    Let’s face it, by the time we hired SM he had turned from being not good enough for us to a welcome relief from the hapless Carver. I don’t think anybody raved about him, and as it turns out he’s saddled with the same problems as his less able predecessors, a huge and inexplicable injury plague, a squad of mismatched and disaffected players who have to be rejigged every week to form some semblance of a team. Maybe shelvey was bought at McLaren’s insistence, but note how he fits into the same mould of target as berahino and Townsend – bargain bin ‘nearly was’ youngsters, hardly any better than the shoddy goods we’ve been buying in Europe.

    We try to be optimistic about it but you can tell there’s something not quite right at SJP. I think it comes from the realisation that players get when they find out from their new colleagues that there’s a rabbit off somewhere. Great debut followed by abysmal performance seems to be the hallmark of our new purchases.

    So how come we aren’t spending enough, and buying the right players? Is it because the club has just enough money coming in to wipe it’s own nose and no more? 2/3 revenue on TV money and merit payments is it? 1/3 each from merchandising and match day receipts? But little money in advertising revenue, in the grounds, on every email, on every Web page, all company headed paperwork, all the tickets …. wouldn’t there be more nose wiping money if we charged for that? It seems the club is wiping it’s nose on someone else’s hanky.

  • 92 Tsunki // Jan 23, 2016 at 11:27 PM

    Ny mag first goal clearly offside, Ighalo actually attempts to run back onside, then checks and is a yard off as the ball leaves the guys foot. Doesn’t absolve colo and his pals for collectively making a mess of the offside trap and not making sure the run was covered just in case, but offside it very clearly was.

  • 93 Tsunki // Jan 23, 2016 at 11:29 PM

    In fact I think I miss Cisse’s offsides now. Evidence that we used to be a goal threat. Everyone writing him off instead of laying the blame on our pathetic midfield supply have done the lad a great disservice.

  • 94 toonking // Jan 23, 2016 at 11:29 PM

    “I thought we were tremendous,”

    where the fcuk did he get this from I can’t even find this in the pardew book of horrid post match interviews.

    The only way I can say this is terrific is in a way where in gives this full club what it deserves and gives ashley this great parachute payment he deserves.

    Hate to admit it but I myself am beginning to divert the rest of my season’s support towards leicester city, I just love to see a team like this win the PL and they are extremely rare events. I’ll still be consistantly wearing my toon shirts and checking out news but fed up of things right now.

  • 95 toon kk // Jan 23, 2016 at 11:30 PM

    I think we’ll all just have to accept we’ll be playing in the championship next season, we’ve been on borrowed time for the last two seasons, Remy hasn’t been replaced for what ever reason. Buying kids with potential sell on value when when need premier league quality hasn’t worked.
    We’ve wasted Millions on dud players, MA should have taken advice on running the club instead of relying on his business mind and clueless board members.

  • 96 Toon Tang // Jan 23, 2016 at 11:37 PM

    Motson “did that creep in”

    About 10 seconds after the toon army were celebrating it.

    Needs driving out into the countryside that lad

  • 97 Shot Bru // Jan 23, 2016 at 11:38 PM

    Not sure what the deal is with Perez, he’s our 2nd top scorer, scores a sweet as goal against the hammers, and then dropped!

    Wally mentioned the need for Perez to be more consistent during the week, amongst other waffling about adjusting to the EPL.

    He should look around the rest of his team, inconsistent is Sissoko’s middle name!!

  • 98 Belfast // Jan 23, 2016 at 11:41 PM

    I think he actually believes we was terrific after watching his interview

  • 99 Munster Mag // Jan 23, 2016 at 11:42 PM

    Toon KK, my post aimed at you was deleted a while ago , no doubt because of expletives. I didnt realise you were quoting Rotunda. I do NOT have a love in for Pardew. I just dont think he is completely useless as some say ( he isnt good, remotely!) , but i’m tired of explaining that to some of the less intelligent on this site. Steve is a nice bloke but a total bluffer. The camera showed him just before the end and he was livid, bad language, seeting. Fair enough, his players didnt lift a leg at times , compared to watford. But afterwards. he’s all sweetness and light. He’s a total bluffer. Good training ground coach I’m sure, but cant elevate this fairly expensive team beyond 6th bottom all season.

  • 100 Toon Tang // Jan 23, 2016 at 11:43 PM

    How manone manages to stay outside during daylight hours I don’t know

  • 101 Munster Mag // Jan 23, 2016 at 11:44 PM

    But Shot Bru, Steve got weak at the knees weh Sissoo walked into his office. He said he was impressed with his physique. Problem was, he didnt study the game recordings to see that Sissoo is essentially a fraud unless it suits him to play and he is in the mood.

  • 102 Belfast // Jan 23, 2016 at 11:48 PM

    Sissoko and Coloccini where trying to kill a wasp for the second goal. Sissoko even tried to boot it at one point.

  • 103 Belfast // Jan 23, 2016 at 11:50 PM

    It was probably 50/50 fault to be honest. Although Sissoko did try to look busy.

  • 104 Belfast // Jan 23, 2016 at 11:56 PM

    Sherwood seems to think Townsend is a good player anyway.

  • 105 Toon Tang // Jan 23, 2016 at 11:58 PM

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  • 106 beermonkey // Jan 23, 2016 at 11:59 PM


    didn’t he say he would win us the points to stay up

    does he get a cut

  • 107 Belfast // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:03 AM

    Aye he says he could win us the games to keep us up or something similar mate.

    He did look the part under Sherwood at Spurs to be fair. I think it’s worth a punt myself.

  • 108 DicBDownUnder // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:07 AM

    I don’t normally post after games, but after reading Mcclarens’ post match comments, I feel the need to.

    I must have been watching a different game to Mcclaren and the people that have voted Lascelles as MOM. Apart from a goal which counted for nothing, he was terrible. From what I have seen so far, I don’t think he is good enough at all. Yes he is young, but so is Mbemba, and he has managed to come from a different league and he looks like he has played in the PL for a while.

    3 at the back does not work. Yes, we needed to fill in the LB slot, but either stick Gouffy there, or one of the young lads from Reserves. And out of the two strikers we have, why oh why would you substitute the one that scores?

    Coloccini should be fined for a being a sh@t captain. Chasing a player out to the sideline, getting done so easily, and then walking back is not acceptable for ANY player, let a lone the captain,

    Sissoko and Gini were non existing today. They need to stop picking and choosing when and where to play and do it week in week out,

    All in all, a pathetic display that didn’t deserve a win.

    If we survive relegation, which I still believe we will, however my hopes are diminishing by the week, it is virtually down to Rob Elliot. Keeping the goal difference to a minimum and saving us some points a long the way, Unsung hero.

    Some advice for you Steve: Don’t try to fix what is not broken. Grow a pair and sack the captain, give it to someone who can actually lead by example.

    In the next 8 days we need to sign Remy, LB and CB with PL experience.

    That’s my two cents anyways, for anyone who bothered reading,

  • 109 WestOzMag // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:09 AM

    Another predicted result. This is getting so boring now. Getting beaten off Watford 3 times this season is just disgraceful. Time to pack your bags Steve, your not up for it!

  • 110 jordijohnty // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:18 AM

    who would have thought we could miss Dummett and Colback, and use that as an excuse. I mean, Dummett and Colback. Jeez

  • 111 bladeuser // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:19 AM

    I thought that was a fantastic committed display and do u know what if we had of scored four we would have won as they were only three nil up at half time we will carry this performance into our next games
    sorry Steve that was the final game of the season and u were relegated five games ago
    That’s it I am going to put my foot down now and plead for a ch and striker because it will b hard in the championship as I have experiance when I F@::@:@ it up with Derby

  • 112 Pitmatic // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:37 AM

    Not easy to stay positive after today. I think Swansea is the only team higher than us that we can finish above. Looking at their fixtures, they have a very tough run-in. Hard to see them scoring more than 35 points.

    Watford is obviously our bogey team this season. Too big, strong, and aggressive. There’s clearly something wrong with the DNA of this team, but it’s not going to be solved this month. We can only hope that there are enough West Ham-type performances to get us the half-dozen wins we need.

  • 113 terencelim // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:33 AM

    @Blackley and Brownlie, the story of the season is that Ashley and his noob ass lickers fail another season again.

  • 114 Sav // Jan 24, 2016 at 10:41 AM

    I can see SupaShola coming back after Bolton can’t afford to pay him. And to be honest, that wouldn’t be such a terrible scenario. Its hard to think he’d have missed as many as our lot did yesterday. Meanwhile great debuts for Sam Byram and Charlie Austin yesterday. Liverpool are after Matip. Shelvey’s honeymoon was short-lived.

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