Newcastle A Typical Relegation Side – It’s Always Something

It’s always something when Newcastle are beaten these days – and we suppose today we would have won 1-0 – but Watford scored two goals.

As usual in the first half we looked a good side but good sides go ahead when they have chances and we hardly ever do that – and we just cannot convert the chances and it’s been a problem all season and last season too.

So now that it’s 23 days into the January transfer window, how come we haven’t signed an experienced striker yet?

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Steve McClaren – on the touchline today

In life you either get the results or the reasons – and we’ve heard every reason under the sun why we have lost 12 league games this season.

The referee made an error, we were unlucky , the other goalkeeper was great, we played great except for ten minutes when they scored six – and in one interview from Steve McClaren today – we were terrific apart from the two goals.

Those reasons are also sometimes called excuses.

When we were relegated way back in 1961 we used to say daft things – after say we lost 4-1 like for example – one of their goals was offside, our goalkeeper should have saved another and we missed two sitters – we should have won 3-2.

And while we know that Steve McClaren has to stay upbeat for the players morale – the reasons given after the games are getting to be all too familiar.

Our results this season have been horrendous – and Steve has to remember he’s in a results-based business, results are what matter – not near misses.

The result is everything – especially when your are fighting against relegation – and today Watford scored one more goal than us.

Our results so far this Premier League season are the worst ever in our Premier League history.

This is what Steve McClaren said after today’s game to Sky Sports

“I thought we were tremendous,” . “Great attitude, effort and we controlled the game. We worked and created chances but winning football matches is about what you do in both boxes, and unfortunately we conceded two and didn’t do enough in the other..”

“We’re scoring at home but we aren’t scoring away. You can’t keep having to score two goals a game to try and get a result, so the balance isn’t quite right at the moment. But the attitude, the organisation and the football we’re playing is very, very good and deserved more today.”

“There was no need to play offside, we talked a lot about that.” “Ighalo looked offside but he plays on the line and he got the decision and finished it well, which was disappointing straight after half-time..”

“Then we didn’t defend two crosses into our box, and you’ve got to do that – win your duels in both boxes. That gave us a mountain to climb but from then we really had a go, went for it, created chances and there was only one team that was going to score at the end.”

Unless and until we can get a striker in who can score goals, we can be positive about everything all the way down to the Championship, which would be a complete disaster.

If Newcastle don’t sign the striker we obviously need for whatever reason(s) – they are asking too high a fee – he’s asking too much in wages – he’s too injury prone – his club wont sell – then we will deserve to become a Championship club.

Lee Charnley is fond of saying there will be no knee-jerk reactions from Newcastle.

Well – perhaps that’s part of the problem with people running the club from the top – in a crisis we don’t do enough and often we don’t seem to do anything.

What happened last season is Newcastle were really lucky to survive when Lee Charnley did absolutely nothing as John Carver lost nine of the last eleven games and almost had us relegated.

We thought when we beat West Ham 2-0 the nightmare was over – but we were wrong.

There is still time and something must be done this coming week to get the players in we need – initiative and courage have to be shown from those at the top – otherwise we could be relegated.

And at the end of the season we will be told the reasons we are being relegated – and just how unlucky we were.

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37 comments so far

  • jordijohnty

    Jan 24, 2016 at 12:18 AM

    Comment #1

    who would have thought we could miss Dummett and Colback, and use that as an excuse. I mean, Dummett and Colback. Jeez

  • magsie

    Jan 24, 2016 at 12:25 AM

    Comment #2

    The guy is a bloody idiot plain and simple if he has the gall to call that performance tremendous ffs

  • Graeme

    Jan 24, 2016 at 12:27 AM

    Comment #3

    Best Player? Didn’t play for us anyway.
    We were 2nd best all over the park, without a doubt.
    Defence was a shambles, for both their goals, McC living in fantasy land.

    Unless we sign a seriously good, premier league striker, in this window, we are going down. I dont care if they spend £20, £30, £50 Million, we NEED a striker to work with Mitro AND a winger to give him some service,

    If we are not going to work to his strengths, what’s the point of having him at SJP???

  • Munster Mag

    Jan 24, 2016 at 12:35 AM

    Comment #4

    Dummett is a decent defender. Poor on the ball going forward etc, but well able to defend. Sadly, if we stay up ( big if ) , we will keep Steve. If we go down, we wil also keep him. The man is deluded and his public utterances are trying to downplay some of the stuff that is going on the oitch, for Ashleys ears. That Watford team at the start of the season was probably worth 50% of Newcastle’s , at best. If you dont recruit managers by interviewing a few and researching well, you get guys like Pardew, Charva and SMC. Who advises on managerial choice – Old Man Carr of course – the de factor DOF. #sick of this crap.

  • Munster Mag

    Jan 24, 2016 at 12:38 AM

    Comment #5

    Graeme, the main difference between the teams was that watford closed down hard and aggressively and we didnt . Shelvey looked like a very unfit athlete. But dont worry, he understands Newcastle because he came from a drug infested knacker estate. Gee thanks Jonjo. 🙂

  • lukes26

    Jan 24, 2016 at 12:40 AM

    Comment #6

    after that game, 5 million for Tiote doesnt seem enough to let him go

    we need our entire left wing restructured. 45% of our attacks are on the right wing. No team in the top half of the epl approaches that imbalance in attack.

  • Thump

    Jan 24, 2016 at 12:44 AM

    Comment #7

    @lukes26: It’s not a new problem either, something we’ve struggled with for a good few seasons. The only time we looked a threat down the left was when Jonas was playing there.

  • lukes26

    Jan 24, 2016 at 12:46 AM

    Comment #8

    Yeah, Dummett is the new Danny Simpson. Good defending, but problematic

    Hes supposedly one of the fastest players in the epl..which shocked me. But he did outpace Martial a couple times last week

  • Mister Tuff

    Jan 24, 2016 at 12:46 AM

    Comment #9

    Munster what all this “love in” and “man crush” mullarkey that you are keen to deny.
    What’s all that about???
    I must say I do not agree with people being “outed” against their will if that is what is going on.
    When you are ready you can leave the closet of your own volition.

  • U.S Magpie

    Jan 24, 2016 at 12:47 AM

    Comment #10

    Well Newcastle United’s board of aholes, do you think we still need a CB and a Striker. Why are the fans the only ones that can see this. Here’s what I mean, Austin who the club said we tried really hard to sign him but he was to expensive went to the Saints for 4 Million, guess what board he scored and was on the pitch less than 10 minutes against Man U at Old Trafford and the saints won the game. So how the Phuck do they still have jobs when they Phuck up that bad…

  • lukes26

    Jan 24, 2016 at 12:52 AM

    Comment #11


    Youre right. Although there was that one season where Gouffran was decent (shocking i know)

    we’ve had some horrible wingers on the left recently…ameobi being the worst, although Ba might have been equally bad when pardew threw him out left

  • Mister Tuff

    Jan 24, 2016 at 12:55 AM

    Comment #12

    One mystery is Payet. If we are supposed to have a top notch scouting network in France – why wasn’t he spotted/bought.
    You can see straight away he’s a decent football – you can see it immediately.
    Whereas some of the guys we hire – fans come out with -well I’m not too sure, he needs time to settle, he’s just a youngster blah blah blah.

    Good players are apparent straight away.

  • magsie

    Jan 24, 2016 at 12:56 AM

    Comment #13

    @ US Magpie

    Yeah iv`e always thought Austin would be a great addition but If what we read is right and that`s he wanted to stay down south due to family and that he`s on 100k a week at the Saints then there is sod all we as a club could do about it really

  • Toon Tang

    Jan 24, 2016 at 1:25 AM

    Comment #14

    “If we had scored and Watford hadn’t, we maybe could have had a 78% chance of winning today” – steve Mcclaren

  • Blofal

    Jan 24, 2016 at 1:26 AM

    Comment #15

    Our only option now is to go for an older striker and just pay what they want. After watching today I don’t think Berahino is the answer.

    And wtf is with Lascelles getting man of the match with the votes? I swear everyone on this blog votes for the new guy or the one that scores the goal. Lascelles made two dangerous back passes today and also lost possession and almost cost us a goal. Luckily Elliot… who was our best player saved the 2 shots they had following that. Same with last week… everyone voted Shelvey and although he was good… Wijnaldum was clearly the best player on the pitch.

  • magsie

    Jan 24, 2016 at 1:33 AM

    Comment #16

    Well seeing as how Gouffran (3%, 28 Votes) says it all really. Blofal and for the record agree totally.

  • ilovetoon8788

    Jan 24, 2016 at 1:36 AM

    Comment #17

    FFs that was a tremendous performance???
    Watford were better than us in EVERY area of the pitch and that was because he got his tactics and personnel all wrong.

    A win at west brom next week will paper over the cracks as we are bound to lose other games which we badly need a win.

    i can’t see us getting anywhere near 35 points even. we will be stuck in the 18th place for a long long time.

  • beefman13

    Jan 24, 2016 at 1:36 AM

    Comment #18

    We are the most exasperating team, we again are dragging our knuckles, totally deflated, has Perez n Riviere got square heads, and they play with our heads all the time.we are all so very tired,simple as.

  • ilovetoon8788

    Jan 24, 2016 at 1:37 AM

    Comment #19

    this Tiote deal MUST be called off as Saivet CANNOT do what a outstanding job Tiote does even though he’s not at his peak.

    We can ship him at the end of the season but not now.

  • Sav

    Jan 24, 2016 at 1:47 AM

    Comment #20

    Mister Tuff, old Carr must’ve watched Payet every time he scouted Thauvin and which one do we get? His stats at Marseilles were way better for every aspect than Thauvin’s.
    Today, we lost because our threadbare squad was exposed by injuries (again) and the reshuffled side couldn’t contain the hornets. Rumoured Liverpool will sign Matip now.

  • Munster Mag

    Jan 24, 2016 at 1:56 AM

    Comment #21

    Tuff i cant debate with low hanging fruit. I think pardew is a middling/lower middling manager, not in the league of charva and others. You may not be able to grasp that fairly clear fact. But thats why i refer to you as low hanging fruit. Nite, fruit.

  • Mister Tuff

    Jan 24, 2016 at 2:10 AM

    Comment #22

    Sav – indeed and I think Poyet was cheaper.

    Munster – you are such a misery – you do not need to keep a poker face with my quality gags.
    Nighty night sweety pie. (probably eel pie).

  • thai-mag

    Jan 24, 2016 at 2:50 AM

    Comment #23

    “In the first half we looked a good side”? Which game were you watching Ed? We were poor the whole 90 mins

  • The overrated Frenchman

    Jan 24, 2016 at 3:35 AM

    Comment #24

    Surely this season is as good as over? They’ve left it too late now to sack McClaren, although it’s been blindingly obvious all along he is not fit for the job. We won’t get the players we need this window. Those deals needed to be done early, and properly. “Charnley and Carr” sounds like it could be a comedy team, and in a sense they are, but we ain’t laughing. I’m not sure I agree when McClaren says the relegation battle will go down to the wire. I think we could drop with a good few games in hand. (Kudos to Bladeuser who has called it correctly all along, by the way)

  • nut meg

    Jan 24, 2016 at 3:49 AM

    Comment #25

    Mr Tuff
    Payet was out of our age limit,he is 28 & turns 29 in March.This is the age when players are supposed to be in their prime! This season could turn out to be one gamble too many.

  • cyprus

    Jan 24, 2016 at 4:58 AM

    Comment #26

    our second worse player, is getting voted as MOM?!

  • Reyantoon

    Jan 24, 2016 at 5:24 AM

    Comment #27

    Unacceptable! a defeat like that is a sign of relegation team.Poor game setup.For one,you can’t change your consistent center back pairing no matter what.Second, giving a starting birth for inexperienced youngsters in a crucial game.
    Lascelles & Aarons are not ready to play in PL at all.He could have used Goufran at LB and leave the CB pairing as they are.It’s worrying and concerning.The mgr is worst than John Carver.
    I won’t blame the management for the defeat.
    Happy the way they are investing recently.
    The only way I blame them is for appointing him.
    They are backing him well but he keep getting clueless and providing poor setup.If he is a good
    mgr,he’d have got atleast a point with that lineup
    After watching our remaining fixtures, I don’t see where we are going from here.It’s concerning and not looking good!

  • ilovetoon8788

    Jan 24, 2016 at 5:48 AM

    Comment #28

    We don’t have players who can play a 3-5-2 system. Aarons and shelvey and Gini looks lost. Very very poor set up.

  • Reyantoon

    Jan 24, 2016 at 5:49 AM

    Comment #29

    Haven’t seen Shelvey and Saivet playing in b&w yet ,but I’m sure they are not the worst players.
    Scoring a goal by unlikely source like that tells you how much the team was poorly setup.Good football means nothing if u can’t get results.
    The man is living in Boro times & is yest’s man!

  • Laurent Robert The Legend

    Jan 24, 2016 at 6:13 AM

    Comment #30

    Has everybody around Newcastle lost sense of football? We’re leaking in 2-3 goals every game and why are people striving for a Stiker? We need to fix the defence first..Stiker is a luxury for us currently..Tall commanding center back and a good left back should be the first priorities. Wake up NUFC.

  • cyprus

    Jan 24, 2016 at 6:15 AM

    Comment #31

    I think the phrase is ‘living on boro’d time’.

    Er, Ed, the first goal WAS clearly offside. It did change the nature of the game. Most calls are going against us.

    We played very well in two of our last three games. We must stay cool.

  • cyprus

    Jan 24, 2016 at 6:22 AM

    Comment #32

    Disagree. Number one priority is a small, wily CF.

    Lascelles hasn’t even featured and he was very good. Taylor is back at least for a game or two. Colo has been immense. Ok, would be good to strengthen but now we need a CF and s winger.

    Hope the real shelvey is not the one I saw yesterday….

  • Reyantoon

    Jan 24, 2016 at 6:22 AM

    Comment #33

    @ 30
    We won’t sign a center back or LB in this window

  • Reyantoon

    Jan 24, 2016 at 6:44 AM

    Comment #34

    I’ll take Gomis in a heartbeat now.He’s a bit old at 30 but he can score goals as his movement,
    work rate and strength is very good.
    But I think yest’ys defeat will force them to finalize deals for Berahino & Townsend before our next game at Everton.

  • OneAlanShearer

    Jan 24, 2016 at 7:16 AM

    Comment #35

    Here’s how I see it.

    At the end of last season we had about 4 players in our 25 man squad worth taking forward the rest we needed to upgrade as a result of a poor transfer policy and selling our better players.

    So we bought 4 players. Mbemba and Wijnaldum hit the ground running. Mitrovic has a lot learn and needs a strike partner or a more experienced instinctive striker to learn from. Thauvin needs to adapt in many ways or leave. So 2 worked as it stands making 6 first teamed.

    We still needed a left back, left winger and striker.

    Add to that full back cover and an upgrade on the ageing colo. Arguable an experienced keeper to challenge Krul who had had some bad injuries for a keeper. Elliot has done well so let’s say he is our 2nd keeper but that’s just pure luck. Darlow doesn’t look very good.

    Lascelles I’m not convinced but willing to give time. Should play in cups.

    Cisse is finished. Riviere is no striker. Arma needs to try championship next season. We need a 20 goal a season striker as we don’t have one. I’m not sure if it’s berahino but willing to try him.

    Aarons needs to be a sub as does perez. We need a better starting left winger. Townsend looks the man fingers crossed.

    We need a specialist left back who can cross. I’d go for jonas hector or willems. We need that overlapping attacking play down the left.

    So all in all we have 7 or 8 of s starting xi and need 3 or 4 more now.

    We go into every match unbalanced. Against Watford no left back and a central midfielder and an only just returning lw with a striker finding his feet we simply came unstuck but I don’t think we were far off drawing the match.

    Charnley.. go and get the required 3 players or we are down. This league is unforgiving. Invest or go down.

  • Szarka

    Jan 24, 2016 at 7:39 AM

    Comment #36

    We have enough strikers, what we lack is defenders ( 2 at least), a backup keeper and a good coach.

  • marshy

    Jan 24, 2016 at 7:45 AM

    Comment #37

    I must admit i’m beginning to despair,I really thought we would get a result yesterday but if we cannot score and cannot defend we will go down. the bloke who scored their second goal was totally unmarked and unfortunately that is our problem, when we don’t have the ball our marking is very poor.


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