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Newcastle Have Only Two Cards Left To Play

9:35 am, Sunday, January 24th, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 180 Comments

It was more than depressing to lose yesterday at Watford, after we had done so well in beating West Ham last week but lose we did against a side that had lost their last four league games.

The performance was OK but we still think with the players we have we should be doing much better than the results we are getting.

Who would have thought last August that we would be 3rd bottom in late January?

Steve McClaren +Manchester+City+v+Newcastle+tQgYvl4Xmfpl

Steve McClaren – must start producing results

Newcastle still have time to improve the squad before a week tomorrow when the transfer window closes shut  – and we are supposed to be after Andros Townsend and Saido Berahino although the club were hoping to sign both players last week.

And with both of them there seems to be  complications because they both appear to be too expensive for Newcastle.

So before we leave it to the last day of the window and possibly fail, we have to get a good striker in before too long.

If we don´t then it will be our own fault and we will probably deserve to be relegated because of the incompetence coming from the top of the club for far too long.

That´s one card we can play and hopefully we will play that big time.

Since beating Liverpool and Tottenham in successive games – we have lost five of our last eight games in all competitions and won only one – and those results are simply not good enough.

After a disastrous start of only 3 points from the first eight games McClaren said the seasons starts now against Norwich, but in the 15 games since then we have only 18 points.

We didn´t want Steve McClaren brought in over the summer when better managers were available to us, and how many other Premier League clubs would have hired a manager who had just been fired by Derby County.

That´s the level of ambition Lee Charnley has and so far the appointment has been as much a disaster as Lee´s appointment of John Carver.

What management/executive experience and what football knowledge does this man have to qualify as the leading executive at Newcastle?

McClaren has said he has needed time to get the squad to gel but we don´t see new managers like West Ham´s Slaven Bilic, Watford´s manager Quique Flores or Leicester´s manager Claudio Ranieri having much trouble and all their sides are in the top ten and thriving.

Not at Newcastle.

Leicester are top, West Ham 6th and Watford 10th.

Steve McClaren for all his positive comments after games is in serious trouble if results don´t improve after January.

We just cannot see Mike Ashley sitting back and watching Newcastle  in the bottom three over the next few months – without  trying to do something about it.

And for Steve to say yesterday he expected the relegation fight to go down to the wire certainly cannot have impressed Mike Ashley and others after £70M has been spent on new players since the end of last season.

Why Steve said that we have no idea, but it could come back to bite him in the future – if results don´t improve.

So those are the two cards Newcastle have left to play and the first card will be played out by a week tomorrow – and we hope two very good players or more are signed by then and that one of them is a top striker.

Then Steve McClaren will have to start producing the results and not say we are terrific and controlled the game when we continue to lose.

Comments welcome.

Tags: Coaching · Newcastle News · Premier League · Recruitment · Transfer News and Rumours

180 responses so far ↓

  • 1 angelswithdirtyfaces // Jan 24, 2016 at 9:43 AM

    Where are the supreme optimists ?
    Another defeat, arithmetic making survival harder week by week ?
    Come on silent majority, spokesperson Jeff, where is your optimism bias now ?

  • 2 switch365 // Jan 24, 2016 at 9:46 AM

    Under investment in defence and throwing money at every other position has cost us for decades.

    You win games by being strong at the back and difficult to score past, yes you need to score, but if you’re almost guaranteed to concede life is so much tougher.

    We’ve never had a solid defence, and the last time we won something was 1969 … wonder why

  • 3 Rotonda heights // Jan 24, 2016 at 9:48 AM

    Sampauli and benitez are available now

    Only consolation is CP are dropping like a stone.

    What did carr ever really see in mitro. he can’t beat anyone with pace or skill and seems to totally mistime his jumps at crosses.

    If we have to beg remy then get it done, a pacy striker who knows where the net is, cos the current lot couldn’t hit the proverbial barn door. While we’re at it Guerreiro for LB please

    You know the game is up when you see gouffran come on. How can Shelvey be so night and day from last week!

    We have a pile of absolute s–t mainly from france with gouff, obertan,marv, rivi, haidara, thauvin etc.

    SM stop writing emails and get some proper management done or rather just walk.

    Carr, charnley, SM none of them fit for purpose.

  • 4 damma99 // Jan 24, 2016 at 9:50 AM

    Peter Crouch would do a good job and is available.

  • 5 Jail for Ashley // Jan 24, 2016 at 9:54 AM

    You’re still not answering my question, worthwhile or not worthwhile, what was it that Ashley actually done last season, do you mean his hastily rehearsed interview.

  • 6 geordieboy83 // Jan 24, 2016 at 9:56 AM

    We need to win next week that’s for certain. The plus sides for me are our remaining home games,
    Swansea, Sunderland, Bournemouth, west brom, palace I honestly don’t see us losing any of them and I believe we will get bonus points from Spurs at home, Norwich and villa away. I really don’t think we are a million miles away, and refuse to give up hope.

    On the formation, people can blast him all they want but let’s look at it the other way of he had of gone 442 and lost we would’ve complained he should’ve went 352. Need a striker no doubt. Aarons was picked to suit the formation. Not because mclaren sees him as a left back. I’ve seen a few people say he’s inept as he sees him as a full back but that’s boll0cks. He played him left back pre season to show him the defensive side of the game and to get a better understanding of it. Good coaching in my humble opinion.

    On mitrovic, rotonda the whole world saw mitrovic as one of the best young uns in the game at present time and was considered a hell of a coup when we got him. He’s just a kid with unlimited potential he’s not even old enough to have failed at anything yet

  • 7 blew // Jan 24, 2016 at 9:56 AM

    The worry is who we bring in, there is too
    much dependence on Mondial Sports Management
    to supply us with their players. Cabaye, Sissoko, Debuchy
    Thauvin, Mitrovic, Cabella, Ben Arfa,Riviere and Saivet
    have all come through that Agency. Has Carr scouted the players or has he rang Mondial and asked for players?
    Quite a few of the signings are duds and I dont think they have been properly scouted. The Thauvin signing in particular stinks and needs investigating, bring back Moat for a while to look at the signings from Mondial.

  • 8 benjohnsen // Jan 24, 2016 at 9:58 AM

    Mourinho is also available for a short term contract. Pay him £4 mill until the summer and it will be the best signing we have done for years.

    He might have fallen out with the players at Chelsea, but he would gain immediate respect in our dressing room.

    Get this clueless clown McClaren out. He is worse than Pardew.

    He will then go on to bigger things and we will have time to find a new decent manager that are willing to coach this side next season.

  • 9 Rotonda heights // Jan 24, 2016 at 10:00 AM


    Yeah crouch would give us the pace we desperately need…lol!! we already hit enough long hit and hope stuff, why encourage it even more.

  • 10 benjohnsen // Jan 24, 2016 at 10:01 AM

    8 correction. Mourinho will go on to to bigger things, not McClaren or Pardew.

  • 11 Rotonda heights // Jan 24, 2016 at 10:03 AM


    mourinho is very high maintenance . He needs massive backing to succeed. He couldn’t do what ranieri has done. Judging by the way he blamed everyone at chelsea, bar himself, I’d say JM’s star is on the wane.

    The guy who just left the chile job would be amazing.

  • 12 sparky55 // Jan 24, 2016 at 10:03 AM

    Our squad in the hands of a half decent coach / manager would be no where near the lowly position we currently occupy…Maclaren’s only success in the last 4 years has been in delivering consistent abject failure and he’s certainly excelling at that as we speak.

    Every single player must have been on a high from last weeks game and there wasn’t a position that played badly…so what does Maclaren decide to do?…not only change players unnecessarily but changes to an untried and untested formation that caused utter confusion in the ranks.

    Watford were there to be taken. We played rubbish and were confused all the way through the first half and watford were so cr@p they couldn’t even capitalise on our disorganisation and p!ss poor display. At half time Maclaren had the chance to get everyone together, re-ignite their enthusiasm, change the system, make a change and press on. What happens…we come out for 2nd half asleep and never woke up until the last 15 minutes when it was too late as usual.

    The manager is an over thinking numpty who thinks he’s much better than he actually is. He should go now before it’s far too late and I’d even be happy for Cathro to see us through til next season if we can’t blag someone like Laudrup or Moyes to step in right now.

  • 13 Rotonda heights // Jan 24, 2016 at 10:04 AM


    do you mean mort

  • 14 Jail for Ashley // Jan 24, 2016 at 10:05 AM

    It’s like this after every defeat now, we can’t give up hope as we are in a five horse race with potentially some new faces coming in, but if he wanted to be judged after ten games, then thirteen then after a season, if we finish seventeenth, can it be judged that he is sh!t.

  • 15 geordieboy83 // Jan 24, 2016 at 10:09 AM


    You misunderstand me mate. McLaren has a lot answer for although sometimes like yesterday I believe his hands are tied formation wise. He would’ve been slaughtered playing Perez as a wing back or if he played mbemba or lascelles at lb in a 442.

  • 16 jon.c // Jan 24, 2016 at 10:09 AM

    with the players we have available we should be half way up the table our coaching team are rubbish S M wanted 10 weeks to turn us round after 22 weeks are still in the same situation other managers turn things around quickly don’t let S M pull the wool over your eyes MA get rid now

  • 17 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 24, 2016 at 10:10 AM

    Jail…you know what he did and this is not about your opinion of it. We know that one.

    Do you need an argument is that it?

  • 18 Rotonda heights // Jan 24, 2016 at 10:11 AM

    But why is mitro so rated. he scored a lot of goals in a poor league. You know with the ball at his feet he’s never going to beat anyone with pace or skill and his one on ones with the keeper never fill you with confidence. Most of all when he’s up for it then great, but a lot of times he can look disinterested and moody.

    Lilo was right, we have needed a rapid mobile striker who knows where the net is all season.

    Where SM fails is he is just like AP, JC and SA previously, ie no evidence of a plan B and when he does get something right he doesn’t stick with it.

    Cowardly charnley and carr got us SM and now we’re the paying the price again

  • 19 NoahJ // Jan 24, 2016 at 10:12 AM

    I’ve just totted up a reasonable expectation for the rest of the season, of 15 points (4 wins, 3 draws from remaining 15 games)- which would have been enough to keep us up last season.

    Everyone stop panicking! we were absolute garbage yesterday, but the previous week we were fantastic (therefore, we do have the ability, we just need a boost… a new striker to lift the dressing room maybe?!)

  • 20 Moonraker15 // Jan 24, 2016 at 10:14 AM

    One manager who will save us is David Moyes! It won’t be pretty but he won’t be saying we were terrific when we’ve just defended like schoolboys and missed chances like Sunday league strikers.

  • 21 Munster Mag // Jan 24, 2016 at 10:16 AM

    Jail in answer to an earlier post….carr has everything to do with smc ‘s appointment. Carr is the only one with football knowledge at the club. He is the operational pivot. He has absolutely everything to do with our mess and i have been saying this for years. I see nothing to change my mind. The deals with his main agency shud be investigated and he should be sacked. Ashley has every right to wonder how we can be worse now after spending 70 mill

  • 22 optimistic prime // Jan 24, 2016 at 10:17 AM

    He’d already tried 3 at the back and it had failed miserably, to change the set up due to not having a LB was ridiculous.

    Instead of playing one player in a position they found uncomfortable he did it to the whole team.

    It’s like cutting your head off if you have a spot, total overkill.

    Not sure if this was part of Steeves master to get players in but IMO very poor decision and HE cost NUFC the game.

  • 23 sparky55 // Jan 24, 2016 at 10:17 AM

    One of the key attributes of a manager at any level is to get the team to perform at a level that is greater than the sum of the parts.

    We did that last week and have done it maybe three times this season which is about 15% of the time or like once in every 7 games. The rest of the time it’s like night and day…we’re either great or we’re really sh!te and that to me is sign of a p!ss poor manager

  • 24 optimistic prime // Jan 24, 2016 at 10:18 AM

    Master plan

  • 25 geordieboy83 // Jan 24, 2016 at 10:20 AM


    I think he’s so rated because he defies his years when he is on song he is unplayable, and I agree at times he annoys the hell out of me, but at his age it’s almost impossible to find such consistency lukaku as an example. Only now are we seeing the signs of what he is really capable of. He’s blessed with a bit more pace than our mad Serb granted. He will be a great player I believe although I’m not master scout just a humble a mature footballer who believes he knows best on everything haha

  • 26 vlojo // Jan 24, 2016 at 10:23 AM

    I too am trying to stay optimistic – the quality IS there and Mitrovic has far more impact than the casual observer realises. He had 61 touches against West Ham, Shelvey had 59 and was considered to put in a performance!

    I looked at the fixtures last night and totally agree with your summing up. I’m so tired of seeing negativity and hatred … It’s what the club is becoming and surely that is filtering out and affecting our performances.

    Seeing Micah Richards responding to Villa fans summed it up for me – of course they care and want to do well – we are in it together and we are SUPPORTERS

    I think we can stay up too, can we not try and stick together?

  • 27 Moonraker15 // Jan 24, 2016 at 10:24 AM

    It’s easy to pick a few games we may win a get safe! The problem is there are only 2 teams who look like they’re definitely down and the others above us will probably win the same number. Our players are too good to go down but they’re no where near as good as the last squad that went down.
    I’ve been trying to analyse our defeats and we always give away goals at crucial times either very early or just before or after half time and this is down to leadership or lack of it on the field; Colo is virtually silent he needs to be shouting and bawling at them but he never will as we know!

  • 28 Ron Knee // Jan 24, 2016 at 10:24 AM

    70% would sack McClaren:

  • 29 Munster Mag // Jan 24, 2016 at 10:26 AM

    Geordieboy, but we thought that mitro’s foil was going to be wiji playing 10 , rather than left wing where he is wasted?

  • 30 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 24, 2016 at 10:31 AM

    Ron…I think at this point removing McC is our only option,but it’s pointless if we are going to relive that they did when Pardew left.

    Charnley had to go as well! That goes without saying I think.

    I went back prior to the summer and even post summer on the blogs threads a while back. Still cannot believe how many who thought McC was a good appointment. Even harder to believe how many in the aftermath who are trying to give off the impression that they never rated the appointment in the first place…

    …talk about being fickle!

  • 31 NoahJ // Jan 24, 2016 at 10:32 AM

    @26 moonraker

    I agree it’s a simplistic way of looking at it, but I’ve seen enough this season to believe we are capable of winning 4 more games before the end of the season.

    The reason we’re in this mess is largely due to committing the cardinal sin of losing to the teams around us; I don’t even want to think about our situation if we hadn’t beaten spurs and liverpool (which we had no right to do really)
    we’ve also lost points late on because we’ve lost concentration (everton, arsenal, west brom springing to mind)

  • 32 BandB // Jan 24, 2016 at 10:32 AM

    I think we’ll get around 15 more points from the fixtures remaining.
    Sunderland and Swansea will struggle to get that from their remaining fixtures, unless one of them goes into Great Escape mode, which someone usually does.
    It may be us.
    Unless McClaren’s head is turned by a top club tapping him up.

  • 33 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 24, 2016 at 10:33 AM

    *that = what

  • 34 Jack Root // Jan 24, 2016 at 10:33 AM

    Laudrup or Moye? Would be a retrograde step in my opinion. I would be very surprised if Laudrup ever gets another job in top flight English football. Whilst at Swansea he was viewed as less than “conscientious ” as their Chairman described him for fear of legal action. Moyes is a colourless individual who has a plodders approach to management and a younger ambitious coach/ manager would be the way to go.
    Meanwhile. McClaren does need to buck his ideas up and ensure we do get his preferred options signed up. Also he should stop saying silly things at post match press conferences which for us travelling savy fans is not on. Let’s not forget the side he inherited from Carver. We need to concentrate our efforts on bringing the right players in at both ends. We leak goals and don’t score enough particularly away.
    The time for personnel changes will be in the summer. I see Joey Barton is doing well at Burnley and we need players with his sort of determination. If we were to bring in a new manager now it would be someone like Harry Redknapp and that really would have us going backwards. Just compare and contrast what Pochettino is doing at Spurs with the aid of a first class Chairman and lifelong supporter Daniel Levy. At the end of the season we should review where we are and what needs to be done.

    Something I posted earlier in the week:
    I see it’s being widely reported that Man U are looking to replace LVG in the summer with Pochettino and John McDermott who is the head of coaching and player development at Spurs. To compare and contrast what Spurs are doing with their academy and player recruitment shows that were light years behind.
    Brendan Rodgers, who’s probably got a book to sell, has said that he thought he’d clinched a deal to sign Dele Alli for Liverpool as he spent a few hours talking to him. Only to find that he had been snatched away by Spurs.
    Last November, Adam Armstrong during a visit from one of our scouts, tipped him off that Coventry had a midfielder James Maddison that premier league scouts were looking at. Apparently the feedback was that we would take a look and later that we were interested but would look to do business in the summer.
    Today The Times are reporting that Spurs are too increase their offer to £5 million before the window closes and are expected to sign him. OK maybe we have more pressing recruitment issues or just plain naivety.
    Sorry to keep banging on but I believe we need a complete overhaul of personnel at the academy and scouting network nationally and indeed globally. Speculate to accumulate.

  • 35 BandB // Jan 24, 2016 at 10:35 AM

    Also, in my new reputation management role, can I point out that the club finances have never been better, and that I’ve seen a lot worse than this in my 95 years watching Newcastle.

  • 36 Munster Mag // Jan 24, 2016 at 10:40 AM

    Noah i agree with that. Whats killing me is steve’s continuous nonsense about controlling the game etc. Our team is worth more than watfords, or it was at the start of the season but they have showed us how to win 3 times. Their pace and work rate was far far better than ours. If we can survive we have to sack carr and steve and make a measured judgement re a new manager. But that wont happen. In fact if we go down we will keep steve and the club will issue a statement re consistency or some such rubbish.

  • 37 BandB // Jan 24, 2016 at 10:43 AM

    We play well when other teams let us play well.
    We were second to nearly every 50/50 challenge yesterday, and as a result pressed only the first couple of balls before dropping off to form a laager in the penalty box.

  • 38 Ron Knee // Jan 24, 2016 at 10:43 AM


    It’s already 24 January and therefore too late for Ashley’s epiphany this year! Maybe next 6 January, when we’re playing in the Championship, or relegation candidates in the PL again?

  • 39 Munster Mag // Jan 24, 2016 at 10:45 AM

    If we get berahino or the chelsea guy, will we play mitro? And where will wiji play? I presume 4231? I presume he still wants mitro up top?

  • 40 NezzaNUFC // Jan 24, 2016 at 10:48 AM

    Bloody hypocrites on here and the same with Ed!

    80% of fans on here and including Ed wanted McClaren here before any decent manager and you twats got what you’s wanted and so now the tables have turn and bloggers like myself and a fair few others on here can’t even reflect our anguish or even gloat because we won’t hear the last of it.

    If memory serves me right Ed you were ecstatic when McClaren name came forward and even more ecstatic when we signed him!

    Fair due McClaren has changed our style and it looks a lot better and has us playing better regardless of the results but at the end of the day only 20% of us didn’t want him in the first place but unfortunately we are stuck with him regardless!

  • 41 toon kk // Jan 24, 2016 at 10:51 AM

    Many calling for Macca’s heed, last week most were saying he was getting us playing good football. Surprising how one loss has changed things.
    Yes yesterday we were very poor, but we’ve always had a poor defence and we definitely lack a quality proven striker. We just can’t score, no cutting edge no goals.
    No management can change that, so it’s down to MASH to bring the necessary players in or we will go down.

  • 42 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 24, 2016 at 10:53 AM

    Nezza…I referred at one point to a poll there 80% where happy about the appointment only to be told that people never voted that way!

    …fickle doesn’t even come close to describe some people on here!

  • 43 BandB // Jan 24, 2016 at 10:53 AM

    If we draw against Everton, we’ll be on for a top 10 finish again.

  • 44 Rotonda heights // Jan 24, 2016 at 10:54 AM


    I don’t think manu and sociedad fans would agree with you, except the not being pretty part.
    Moyes would just us set us back even further another yesterday man from the 80’s. surely we’ve had enough dour defensive managers and other scotsmen in souness and dalglish to last a life time.

    We need someone who is genuinely going to excite the fans.

  • 45 NezzaNUFC // Jan 24, 2016 at 10:55 AM

    Also piss off with the ‘Moyes would do better ‘ statement it makes me laugh at people with this rubbish, and if anything McClaren is a better option than Moyes and that’s coming from me who never wanted McClaren here.

  • 46 Rotonda heights // Jan 24, 2016 at 10:59 AM


    80% you say. I find that totally unbelievable. Many of us wanted an exciting foreign appointment in line with other ambitious clubs in the top 10.

    Having rejected us twice already SM was a bitter disappointment to most of us. I think we just hoped SM may be slightly less mind numbing than the dross that preceded him. In fairness he has been, but he is still a mile away from what we need.

    AS for calling people t—s, is that really necessary?

  • 47 NezzaNUFC // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:00 AM


    Aye mate its true though, I haven’t had the chance to read all of the comments on here since Ed came out with ‘ we didn’t want Steve McClaren here ‘ at that point it just boiled my blood, but it goes to show that many of us remember what others were like when we signed him and now suddenly there views have changed on McClaren.

  • 48 Ron Knee // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:02 AM

    What is the likelihood of Charmless going to Ashley and admitting he’s made a dreadful mistake in appointing McClaren? Zero, surely.

  • 49 optimistic prime // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:03 AM

    Dummies and Kleenex are on special at morrisons if you need a cry

  • 50 NezzaNUFC // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:04 AM


    It would be correct, 80% of fans wanted him here only because with his cup win with Middlesbrough and a successive league finish with Twente, at that time they didn’t even think about his failures at other clubs.

  • 51 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:04 AM

    The difference yesterday was Flores being a much better coach than Mclaren they hounded us the whole game and he changed it at half time to unlock the 3 centre backs Mclaren changed nothing and then only really went for it with 15 minutes to go!!

    Flores took 2 weeks from being the Watford manager to decide who was good enough for the premiership and either sold or loaned out the rest we still have players that have not been good enough for a few seasons!!

  • 52 toon kk // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:06 AM

    Macca’s not daft he sees the problems that we see, but alot of the players are letting him, themselves, and the fans down.
    But the squad has weaknesses in key areas also injuries don’t help.

    Moyes? Do some fans actually think he’s the answer? What a joke.

  • 53 toontaff2 // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:08 AM

    Why was cry me a riviere brought on with 3 minutes to go?
    Why was Goofy on the bench, let alone on the pitch as left wingnut?
    Why is Thauvin not given a go, when we need a leftie? 12 million wasted – is that the fat man’s fault? It is if he cannot see Carr is the fool who wanted him.
    The wingnut formation meant Janmaat spent less time going forward, which seems to suggest they decided on the formation on the way to the pub/Vicarage Road.

  • 54 hibbitt // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:08 AM

    Ajax’s RB Ricardo van Rhijn anyone seen this lad play everton are trying to buy him for 2m is he any good.

  • 55 geordieboy83 // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:09 AM


    Can’t answer that one mate my only reasoning for putting wini out wide was to get him used to the pace of the league as his first handful of appearances were pretty poor in no10 slot. Probably clutching at straws but that’s all I can think of

  • 56 Toon-Prodigy // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:09 AM

    To stay up all we need is a proven Premier League striker who is hungry to prove himself. He should of been here by now the club is farting about as usual.

    We are not playing dreadful we are just not putting our chances away which has to be done at this level. Mitrovic is only 21 yrs old, the board are hanging him out to dry. Perez is not an out and out goal scorer either. Riviere, less said the better.

    Get a goal scorer through the door sharpish that will sort us out until the Summer then they can look at a LB and a CB. If it’s possible to get them all in this window then do it.

    No need for the drastic doom and gloom and wanting people sacked. It’s a forward we need sharpish it’s upto the board to sort that out.

  • 57 toontaff2 // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:10 AM

    Off to Morrisons for the tissues, butwill pass on the dummies!

  • 58 Sav // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:10 AM

    Didn’t pull up any trees but glad to see Aarons starting again. He’s no wing-back but when Dummet is fit Aarons should finally provide us with a threat down the left which we have lacked for 12 months.

  • 59 optimistic prime // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:12 AM


    80% is quite a exaggeration, you’d be lucky if it was half that. Keep telling yourself that though if it makes you feel better.

  • 60 NezzaNUFC // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:13 AM

    And before people start to get on there band wagon against me let’s get one thing straight, all my employees are Derby fans as I’ve stated many times on here and they told me McClaren style of football he will bring here and they were totally correct and in fact I’m enjoying McClaren style lately and getting a positive vibe from him with the way his style is progressing at Newcastle.

    So not one of these McClaren out all the time bloggers!

  • 61 Munster Mag // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:14 AM

    Toon kk, i said after last week that we wud survive. I still beieve that, just about. Steve altered the back 4 too much yesterday, but irrespective of that we were poor and didnt press enough. It kills me when the manager comes out and says how terrific we were. It defies belief. Tool.

  • 62 Thump // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:18 AM

    @Nezza: 80% wanted him hired? Not a chance

    Glad you’re enjoying his style though. I’m sure it’ll be something you can focus on when we’re sitting mid table in the 2nsd divison.

  • 63 Jack Root // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:18 AM

    I agree with you about the daft comments at the press conference. I would point out that he has also said that ” it will go to the wire”. More tellingly I would suggest he pointed out to a pushy journalist that with Ighalo and Deeney you need quality at both ends. We are in need of a dominant CB as has been pointed out for many seasons.
    I watched the Palacev Spurs match choice game and it was a really entertaining game. Cabaye was given close attention but played well and Palace played some good stuff and with a lot of spirit and determination. I personally thought Shelvey looked a good deal more interested than Wijnaldum who often plays like a homer and Sissoko didn’t have his brain in gear oblivious to what was going on around him. Maybe a case of getting more time in home games.
    If we don’t get 2-3 players in this next week to go straight into the side then I can see McClaren leaving. It was a mistake moving Mbemba and we need a left back someone like Sam Byram who looked terrific on debut for West Ham. CB though is defensive priority because ours show they can be bullied.

  • 64 Munster Mag // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:20 AM

    Nezza….80%? Nonsense mate. Agree with my buddy 🙂 Rotunda . He was not what most wanted but better than keeping carr

  • 65 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:20 AM

    I wouldn’t mind being the manager at Newcastle. Job security doesn’t get bigger than this 😉

  • 66 toon kk // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:20 AM

    Tbh one of our biggest problems lies with our players work rate, if we work hard we usually get something out of the game.
    But for what ever reason only too often we just don’t turn up and look like lost amateurs.

  • 67 stuart no9 // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:21 AM

    Well, surely yesterday’s show should tell even the hardcore Macca fans the sorry truth – Steve maclaren has to go . From 2 decent results , to a 2-1 defeat by a man who has simply no courage , balls , ideas , call it what you want but he had no intention of setting his team out to win and in that he hit what he deserved – nowt and hopefully soon – the sack . No more “let’s see what happens next week ” now – out . Get Jose in , pay him what he wants o keep us up or ash is going to be £400M down cone August – and serves him right .

  • 68 NoahJ // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:22 AM


    The thing which really winds me up about Mclaren is that he continuously looks out of touch with reality. calling yesterday’s peformance fantastic is a joke. he said the same after the west brom game. the “judge me after 5 games, no 10 games, no end of season” thing is also a marker of the mismatch between his abilities and his confidence in himself.

    Let’s not also forget that he turned us down twice.

    These things go some way to explaining why fans have little confidence or trust in him.

    [nb. I agree, though, his style is far superior to carver’s!]

  • 69 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:22 AM

    Nezza…the good thing about a blog is everything is here in written form 🙂

  • 70 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:23 AM

    I don’t mind people changing opinion, that just show growth and that we are human. But I don’t have time for fickle people!

  • 71 Moonraker15 // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:25 AM

    My point is that 4 wins isn’t enough we’ll need at least 6 wins or 5 wins and 3 draws! Tough call when you look at the fixtures and more importantly we’ve been waiting for this improvement for 22 games and no sign of consistency. Even the games we have won have been touch and go! I think we’re going down !

  • 72 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:25 AM

    Ron…chances are slim to non I agree. I did say in the summer that the hear should be turn towards Charnley and I still stand by that.

  • 73 toon kk // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:27 AM

    A manager will nearly always stand behind his players in front of the press etc, but it could be a different story in the dressing room.
    I can remember B. Robson saying we did OK on an off day.

  • 74 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:31 AM

    Some of you guys seem to have forgotten that is quite easy to go back dig up dirt when everything is here in written form 😉

    Take for example this poll back in the summer:

    I’ll fetch some more for you guys. Maybe even some discussions where certain bloggers are backing the appointment of McC 😉

  • 75 Jack Root // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:33 AM

    Fans not surprisingly judge coach/ managers on results. Aside from yesterday we have been playing some entertaining football. Many do have short memories of John Carver and his let’s take the football out of football. I personally would like to see McClaren start being more positive in his use of subs. Aaron’s should have been pulled earlier and Rivi introduced sooner. We need to start picking up points away from home which quality at both ends will do. Winning a run of home games with a fortress mindset will see us clear. Might have to beat the mackems as well. It can be done.

  • 76 Moonraker15 // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:35 AM


    I’m not a great fan of Moyes either but the game now is survival and I’m convinced McClaren will take us down with a fckin smile on his face talking about coming back next season ! What does a fckin manager have to do to get the sack at Newcastle he’s lost I think 12 games out of 22 ffs. This job is the most secure in world football and we’re supposed to be the 17 richest club in the world! Gateshead wouldn’t even put up with him and quite rightly so !

  • 77 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:35 AM

    *hear = heat 😀

  • 78 Mister Tuff // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:35 AM

    During the Carver period if Toon fans were asked who they wanted as manager I’m sure Wally would hardly have been mentioned.
    So why did those knackers at SJP want him in the first place. Probably because he was an ex England manager and because of the cup at Boro.

    after he was appointed I suspect there was a fair minded attitude to give him a chance as he was in post. Wally dragged this out with his judge me after 10 > 12> 18 games. He was probably hoping our fortunes would change – it has not happened.
    All the early crap – bigging up Colo – his poll of the players – extending his contract then signing too many players would unsettle the side has all turned out to be bluster.

    The bloke should never have been hired in the first place – NOT his fault but those that hired him.
    Mr Tubbs words in his Sky interview have turned out to be bluster as well.
    Telling us of changes kept the natives quiet for a while but really from an results perspective nothing has changed same old mistakes same old guff and PR stunts.
    Couple of similar losses and Geordies voice will be heard.

  • 79 angelswithdirtyfaces // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:38 AM

    BandB // Jan 24, 2016 at 10:53 AM
    If we draw against Everton, we’ll be on for a top 10 finish again

    Assuming a lack of irony, for which you are well known 😀 , how do you work that one out ?

    1 pt Everton; 3pts WBA (dodgy prediction cud be a draw); 0 pts Man City; 0pts Chelski (optimistically 1pt); 0 pts Stoke; 3 pts Bournemouth gives us 28pts by 6th March and, assuming we beat the unwashed, 31pts by the end of March with 7 games to play.

    Then, away wins against Villa and Norwich and a home win against Swansea would give us 40 pts and probable safety at 16th or 17th place.

    That’s the optimistic view. There are 5 six pointers – playing teams at 15th place or lower. Winning all of those would probably leave us safe with a couple of scrambled draws. But if we play as badly as yesterday against two of the lower placed sides then we are down, as we’d end up on 36pts.

    The key relegation problem isn’t ability as I think our side has sufficient talent to get 10th place – so I’d agree with your pink specs point there. (Though we still need LB,CB,ST and fewer injuries).

    I see the limiting issues to survival as confidence, momentum, and coaching. We have none of those right at present.

  • 80 Jail for Ashley // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:40 AM

    I really don’t want an argument, I’m asking you a reasonable question about a statement you made. Please tell me what Ashley done last season when things got nasty. Unless you mean his interview I am at a loss.

  • 81 Moonraker15 // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:42 AM

    Jack root
    They play “entertaining football” in the championship so we’ll be fine. It’s not particularly entertaining losing every week ffs it’s results that matter and I find a win very entertaining. I don’t think I can put up with this shit for much longer. I watched McClaren’s Derby play some great football last season! He doesn’t have a winning formula which would usually bring entertaining football anyway!

  • 82 RUNAWAY777 // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:43 AM

    Why down how much more have our fans got to take off this lot and SM giving excess aftet excess and playing with his hair after every game for f–k sake

  • 83 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:45 AM

    Jail…why ado you need me to state the obvious? I know exactly what I am referring to seeing as you having been sleeping since the last game of season 2014-15!

    So cut the crap mate 😉

  • 84 Jack Root // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:45 AM

    Behave. This is a fans Newcastle United blog! The priority is not to call fans to account over what is simply a matter of opinion. Regular readers of the blog know who to take note of are you really so lacking in your own judgment to require to have it endorsed?.
    In difficult times We should stick together and offer thoughts and opinions in a constructive way. I am sure there will be some fans who would see a spin off benefit of relegation as adding support to ousting the owner ! But not me and a good number of our fans at Watford yesterday who showed there support throughout.

  • 85 expatmag // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:46 AM

    One thing for sure is the idiots in charge will now be drawing up a list for the inevitable firesale at the end of the season.


    Wijnaldum Sissoko Mbemba Perez Shelvey Jaanmaat Krul Aarons……..we should get around 100 million quid for that lot.

  • 86 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:46 AM

    Jail…why do you need me to state the obvious? You know exactly what I am referring to seeing as you haven’t been sleeping since the last game of season 2014-15!

    So cut the crap mate ?

  • 87 Moonraker15 // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:47 AM

    That was then this is now! We were wrong and were in the deep shit! That’s when properly run clubs look at the managers record! Fogs If Chelsea can sack Mourinho surely we can at least criticise SMc !!

  • 88 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:47 AM

    Jack…nothing wrong with opinions or opinions changing. Fickleness is the problem!

  • 89 welshgeordie9 // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:49 AM

    At the end of the day ladies pardew should still be here, mcclaren couldn’t organise a piss up in the brewery, so the next time you chant you want someone out keep it to yourselves.

  • 90 Jail for Ashley // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:50 AM

    I need you to state the obvious because I don’t get what it was that he done when things got nasty.

  • 91 Jib // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:50 AM

    This supreme optimist is here after a late night out on Saturday (you should try it ).

    I think Steve said it would go down to the wire because he believes it and is probably right.

    I watched the game live and once since and we weren’t crap , we have been better true.

    Watford were shitting themselves for the last quarter of the game.

    Hopefully the shouts for Aarons will now stop and some of our defenders get fit for next week.

    Predictably the hysteria starts again.

    Thank god the manager isn’t a hand wringing , hair pulling , big girls blouse like so many on here. Jesper’s “I told you so””I told you so””I told you so” is sickening .

    Talking footy, it was a difficult game to set up for us for various reasons.
    Although we’d played Watfor twice before , once was in the league , ages ago when the side weren’t fully fit .
    So we tried to emulate the 5 across the back of the cuptie when went down to a daft Wijnaldum gimme.
    The problem was , no Dummett or Mbabu in the backs had Mbemba playing out of position amd a complete novice on one wing and the dropping of Perez to fit Wijnaldum in the middle.
    I guess the complete re-laying of the Watford pitch on Tuesday afternoon won’t have helped either.
    I got the impression the team on Saturday was picked to get a point with McClaren relying on home points to keep us safe.

  • 92 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:50 AM

    Moonraker…it’s great if people have changed opinion, but that was not the problem or the discussion here. The problem was quite a few people always seem to give off the impression that is never was so!

  • 93 Jack Root // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:51 AM

    That was a response to the lack of hoofball blogger(s). All that matters is winning at this stage. I saw us take 3 points at Bournemouth in a game we should have lost. I stand by what I wrote earlier. Feel free to remind me towards the end of the season. Hopefully you won’t feel the need.

  • 94 Jail for Ashley // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:51 AM

    I think that puts me in the 20% bracket.

    22 Jail for Ashley // May 21, 2015 at 10:58 PM

    It doesn’t seem hard to set up a site, I’m going to do it if he now gets the job !

  • 95 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:52 AM

    And Jail…you will not get it now either so best to move on. It will do you no good to linger on those words! You’ll just get obsessed with getting an answer so you can get what ever you have on your mind off your chest.

  • 96 Moonraker15 // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:52 AM

    Jesper being fickle is part of being a fan it’s better than blind faith. It’s all about opinions but we all agree on one thing we love the club not freakin coach or owner! The club will be there long after the owner is gone but the coach is really only as good as his results obviously and yesterday he didn’t have a clue!

  • 97 Belfast // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:54 AM

    Jesper you’re always critical of everybody apart from Mike Ashley ?

    He’s the “opportunist” here and it seems to be going over your head for some reason.

    Yeah so less monkey please.

  • 98 catchy in norway // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:54 AM

    Jose would fail big time at our club , the guy needs a great squad to start with then runs them into the ground. I like the guy he talks sense but he needs very good players that produce bits of magic. P45 bases his style on Joses but with far inferior players, that’s why he goes on long losing streaks.
    I’d love for Jose to take over Man U, they would sink like a stone.

  • 99 toon kk // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:55 AM

    Mister Tuff
    I honestly think the board thought they were giving the fans what they wanted by appointing a northern manager in Macca after the Pardew era went Tits up.

  • 100 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:59 AM

    Moonraker…if you can be fickle the surely you can take being called out!

    The bigger man just except he was wrong.

    You should read some of the discussions on here in the heat of the moment. People got slammed for thinking McC was a poor appointment, but went it turns out the were right it seems does in question would just appreciated a little bit fickleness!

  • 101 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 24, 2016 at 11:59 AM

    *does = those

  • 102 Jail for Ashley // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:00 PM

    I’m not getting an answer because you can’t give one, you came up with a truly bizarre statement about Mikey getting involved last season when things got nasty when the reality was he didn’t do a thing while Carver steered us to eight straight defeats and a very possible relegation, in fact he didn’t even turn up at games. So maybe it’s you who needs to think about what they’re are saying.

  • 103 Jack Root // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:02 PM

    Sorry too dismissive response. Nobody likes a smart a’s and you do ask silly questions or make daft statements which I frequently try to understand what you’re getting at. Then simply give up.
    The vast majority on here are suffering from the stark realisation that we might be relegated. I guess we don’t need you to rub our noses in the ………. Jib has made his reputation out of calling people to account and he’s more experienced at it. Dangerous game that it it is. Support is what’s called for and recrimination later, much later. Remember when the going gets tough the tough get going!

  • 104 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:02 PM

    Belfast…I don’t think Ashley is not a problem. Where to you get that from?

    …boosing last night?

  • 105 Belfast // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:03 PM

    I won’t be changing my opinion. He was a decent appointment compared to what I was expecting anyway

    Yes his post match interviews are a pain in the arse and his sub’s absolutely baffle me to be honest, but if you honesty think the likes of Benitez or any other respectable manager would work for this mob you’re not right in the heed.

    I suspect a lot of the 80% have a similar view to myself.

  • 106 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:06 PM

    Good for you Belfast and plenty of you still think he was a poor appointment!

    …at least people are not ridiculing us now!

  • 107 Mister Tuff // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:06 PM

    toon kk – yeh that is a possibility as well local (ish) manager. Might be the same type of flawed logic they used in giving Bob “Judas” Moncur a seat on the board.
    Whatever their assessments as time goes by they are proven to be wrong -time and time again – when an assesssment is made from a points perspective.
    Sleepwalking to the precipice I think.

  • 108 lesh // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:06 PM

    Ed questions Charnley’s fitness to be MD of a multi-million pound business that is Newcastle United.

    Charnley has exactly the right qualities that enable Ashley to have confidence that Charnley is the right man for the job.

    So what makes him the right man for Ashley?

    He’s compliant;

    Lacks initiative;

    Doesn’t rock the boat;

    Has no dynamism and

    Has no charisma!

    As far as Ashley’s concerned, the very man to do his bidding.

    Charnley’s have to murder Ashley’s daughters before sacking became even a possibility.

  • 109 catchy in norway // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:07 PM


    A reply from your comment yesterday,

    You are a tool who is trying to change what I have said to something that I have not, saying I slated p45 for the things Shteve is doing now is not true at all.
    My biggest problem with P45 was the football we played, if you would care to go back and read any of my comments you would know that.
    I didn’t like what he said after matches because the 2 never matched up.
    Shteve is not the best manager out there for sure, but given Ashley’s history of picking managers, I think Shteve is the best we were ever going to get.
    We may be 3rd bottom, but everyone can see the football we play is miles better than we have seen over the last 4 years, in fact I have more good games than bad games this season, we just didn’t get the results, blatant pens turned down , or pens given when they shouldn’t have , colo sent off when we were on top at Sunderland, no matter how you want to present your argument it is based on not liking the guy first.

    Fans like you will never be happy until you are out in charge.

    If you also go back you will see I wanted one of 2 managers , Shteve was no 2 my no 1 was always Karanka, with our squad we would be flying higher than we are right now.

    Get your facts right before you start causing trouble.

  • 110 martoon // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:08 PM

    It was a disappointing result yesterday but let’s not start throwing ourselves of the roof yet! In the end it will be the key home games that someone mentioned earlier that decide our fate.

  • 111 Belfast // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:08 PM

    You always seem to blaming somebody else Jesper. Charnley, McClaren, Pardew, Carver etc etc

    You need to start blaming the person who appointed them all IMO

    Then we’ll have no more monkey. You get me ? 🙂

  • 112 Ron Knee // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:08 PM

    Jack Root

    So we have to suspend disbelief and pretend everything in the garden is rosy?

  • 113 Jan Stavik // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:10 PM

    We only need 5 wins to be safe, but will we make it? It will surely be close, just like last season. If we could bring in Remy and a central defender to replace Coloccini I guess we’ll be fine, but this club really need an overhaul from top to bottom.

    And McClaren sounding like a comedian every post match interview makes me sick, there is no way last nights performance should be described as trendemous. It was weak and gutless, when watching the game you’d have the feeling Watford was the stronger side all game through.

  • 114 Mister Tuff // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:14 PM


    The blog never fails – even in dark days there is some clot – who posts something that they probably believe in but which in reality is complete shyte.
    The post I speak of has brought me back to having a laugh. Irefer to :-
    “Jib has made his reputation out of calling people to account and he’s more experienced at it.”

    Are you being serious – more like he’s made his name because of his gaffes, lack of football knowledge, vile comments, zenophobia, homophobia, racism and an array insults to one and all.

    F**k me gently – there are some clots who post on here.

  • 115 Jack Root // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:14 PM

    You only need to watch clubs like Fulham, Blackburn, Bolton, QPR in free fall to realise it takes a lot to turn a club around. I will repeat that the 2015 John Carver at the helm period was the least enjoyable, entertaining and winning( for Moonraker) in my history of supporting.
    You give up too easily a few quality signings and Ho knows you’ll be signing a few toon songs. You need to go on a pilgrimage to the north east of England and join the toon army. It would clear your head of such witless thoughts. Just a thought.
    I have to go a few of those pesky toon army types are telling me it’s my round. Thanks for the craic.

  • 116 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:14 PM

    Jack…very good answer then the past bites you in the arse!

  • 117 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:15 PM

    Keep your thought Jake!

  • 118 hibbitt // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:18 PM

    only one man in charge at NUFC the rest are just puppets ASHLEY OUT

  • 119 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:18 PM

    Jack…I got to tell you I want nothing of what you are selling!

    You are as toxic as Jeff and Carl and what ever your past name is

  • 120 angelswithdirtyfaces // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:20 PM


    I’m not an expat like yourself, and really wouldn’t enjoy your company anyway, but thanks for the invite.

    As usual you avoid the issues. Your review of yesterday’s game is an amusing fiction and catalogue of excuses but .. it’s about finishing above 18th… you’ve seen my posts on the arithmetic for survival. Hardly doom and gloom.

    You have consistently supported the regime and with usual misogynism dismissed the “big girlies” who lack your testosterone (which doesn’t confer any judgemental ability or intelligence whatsoever) and are pessimistic about our current position and not suffering from optimism bias..
    There is much sound reasoning behind their opinions.

    Come on now and give us all good reason to expect a strong run to the end of the season. Do we need any more signings for instance ?

    You’re definitely changing your tune from the ‘bright side of life’.
    “Down to the wire” is nothing like as over confident as your “We will not get relegated , no chance , and under SM eventually we will get a team to be proud of , I am sure of it .”

  • 121 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:20 PM

    In my opinion Belfast…it serves people best to criticize where they think it will make a difference!

  • 122 Ron Knee // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:21 PM

    Jack Root

    Don’t forget: Everything is for the best in the best of all possible worlds.

  • 123 Jack Root // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:21 PM

    Mister Tuff
    I’ve learnt in this past week that you’re not my biggest fan. Thank heavens or I would be seriously worried.
    I think I can live with that. It’s an opinion and although not shared by you remains. Stop your targetting of individual bloggers it’s divisive and not conducive to a supportive fan base. In my opinion. You see it’s a circular process.

  • 124 Jib // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:26 PM

    Mister Tuff

    I find the expression Bob “Judas” Moncur (360 games 10 goals ) quite distasteful.

    But I will cut you some slack , as being a Thunlun season ticket holder must give you a different slant on things as he turned out for you lot when past his best.

  • 125 leedavid2015 // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:29 PM

    the football philosophy is all wrong and the appointment of SM just a continuation of the extremely negative football of pardew. Yesterday saw effectively a 6 man midfield against a side on a 4 game losing streak and devoid of confidence. We have a slow striker who can hold the ball and flick on but with no striking partner becomes toothless as there is never anyone to flick on to or hold up 4 unless wini manages to break at full pace from deep to get up with play.

    SM then plays aarons who is a great prospect and one of the most attacking players in the squad as a wing back!!!

    Just like pardew SM cannot fathom how to utilise attacking players, trying instead to put them into a box and kill their confidence in the process.

    playing Mitro as a lone stiker will destroy him, does not have the pace for that game plan. Aarons is visibly terrified on making a defensive mistake and so never tried anything, his post match comments ‘thought we were going to kill the game’ sums it up.

    those at the top want a defensive team nicking the odd goal and keeping us mid table. Anyone who says that game was in any way tremendous must be blind..SM and charnley and carr have to go otherwise just more of the same.

  • 126 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:29 PM

    Hahaha! Senor Tuff’s not Jack’s biggest fan 😀 take a number!

  • 127 manxpie // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:30 PM

    Without a decent striker and some let up on injuries or some defensive reinforcements Wat manager will change much?
    The problem has been we’ve gambled again on a young fforeign striker from a shite league it hasn’t worked and that’s why wwe’re down there

  • 128 bladeuser // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:33 PM

    Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
    Same old posts same old answers

  • 129 Jack Root // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:36 PM

    You just don’t get it! Now is not that time. Ashley should not panic. Let’s hope that behind the scenes the club are working on a few astute signings. If Ashley were to sack McClaren now then half the playing staff would be looking for the way out. Shearer shares the view from his 8 game experience and the lack of player confidence he encountered.

  • 130 manxpie // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:36 PM

    Is it time for another breeze block challenge? 😉

  • 131 toon22 // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:39 PM

    The way we are run,with the team we have,if we dont go down this year it will be next season.
    To turn us around it will take more than the usual Jan panic buys and a summer of gambling with young players whome you hope will we worth 10 times what you payed.

    It has been heading this way since MA bought us,we are slowly going down the shitta.

    Its not even a matter or staying up anymore with MA we are a club without a soul,dead at the core.
    Rotten from the top down.

    Everyone knows it.

  • 132 Jack Root // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:39 PM

    Ron Knee
    I would have thought you would prefer: If things don’t change they stay the same.

  • 133 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:40 PM

    Jack…I suppose we can use the phrase “you just don’t get it”!

    …it sums up how I feel at times! And why we are still in the predicament.

  • 134 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:40 PM


  • 135 Jail for Ashley // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:40 PM

    I never called you a tool.

    Secondly, yesterday I did not say you slated Pardew for what Mclaren is doing now although I have accused you of that in the past when Mclaren played counter attacking football. What I did say yesterday was that your one sidedness against giving Pardew any credit at all is just the same as you refusing to blame Mclaren for anything.
    “Newcastle were beaten by a workmanlike Watford side for the third time this season on Saturday, as any momentum gained from their last two home games disappeared amid questionable team selections, baffling tactics and woeful finishing.”
    It is widely recognised that his decisions were baffling and the less said about his post match interview the better. Yet you say to be fair to him the goal was offside.
    You blamed Pardew for not getting CL but gave him no credit for getting us even thinking about it.
    Go figure.

  • 136 Rotonda heights // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:41 PM

    bladeuser at 26

    oh the irony

  • 137 Jack Root // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:42 PM

    Good point. McClaren has to force the issue of bringing in players he wants. He’s little to lose.

  • 138 Rotonda heights // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:43 PM


    i’d be lying if i said i wasn’t enjoying the kings latest losing sequence at cp.

  • 139 Jack Root // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:44 PM

    Keep the faith. Remember the final day game against West Ham. Long way to go.

  • 140 Rotonda heights // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:45 PM

    it was a strange one with shearer. he had all his pals owen, given, duff, butt etc

  • 141 Rotonda heights // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:48 PM


    sum of the parts . look at leicester, they run through walls for ranieri with no real superstars or great resources to call on.

  • 142 Ron Knee // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:48 PM

    Jack Root

    “Support is what’s called for and recrimination later, much later.”

    Isn’t that accepting the status quo?

  • 143 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:49 PM

    Mclaren needs to start setting us up for the win away from home we totally dominated West Ham and went all out attack and they could not deal with it we gave Watford ages on the ball and hardly committed bodies forward it was shocking actually !

    Bloody better hope who we sign this week hits the ground running if we dont sign a left back then we deserve to go down and thats it plenty of them available

  • 144 Essex Geordie Bill // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:50 PM

    I have only seen the MOTD highlights so cannot comment too much on the game but one thing that struck me was the way Goufran chased across the pitch in a desperate effort to cover for an inadequate defence. He didn’t quite succeed but he was trying. I don’t see why he is getting so much stick. I’d bet he would be a really good asset to the right team in much the same way that Gosling is.

    We don’t strikers as much as we need defenders and playing a only a back three away from home against a strike force such as Watfords was doomed to fail.

    Afraid that Steve got it wrong not so much the players.

  • 145 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:50 PM

    Oh and watch this I bet Guidolin will work out for Swansea so its going to be between us and Norwich

  • 146 Rotonda heights // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:51 PM

    xenophobia, no z

  • 147 manxpie // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:51 PM

    We should be going all out to get remy no matter the cost just get him here he’ll score us goals knows the league and club and can get us out of the shit

  • 148 manxpie // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:54 PM

    Rotunda they have 2 of the top scorers and assisters in the league we don’t that’s my point take vardy out would they be anywhere near the top?

  • 149 Mister Tuff // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:55 PM

    Jack Root – don’t delude yourself – I don’t think you have any fans on here. Is that why you post to get fans. I suppose if that is what drives you -if it is not working you just change your name and spew out the same old shyte.

  • 150 bladeuser // Jan 24, 2016 at 12:56 PM

    Sorry did I just post a comment
    I must have been sleepwalking at the time and that must of been in my mind what a silly comment as it is so refreshing on here to read eh hang on the same blah blah blah blah blah blah blah AHSLEY SMAC kissing claptrap
    down we go the comments will be so much more to my liking when the minority on here who know Football discuss the championship

  • 151 Munster Mag // Jan 24, 2016 at 1:03 PM

    Tuff, calling moncur judas shows what a horrible little shite you are. Jack root keep up the posting

  • 152 Mister Tuff // Jan 24, 2016 at 1:03 PM

    Jib Jibberish – in my opinion Moncur took the thirty pieces of silver from Mr Tubbs – plently of others have the same view. I saw Moncur during most of his playing career – good footballer and good captain – and as far as I’m concerned it ends there.
    As for you finding my comment distasteful – I find that most of the stuff you post is distasteful – includes vile abuse, homophobia, zenophobia, racism. Slagging off the KK years, Shearer – to name a couple of your most recent efforts.
    This all translates into you being a despicable scumbag who only tries to goad posters on here.
    Not forgetting you are a dope as well. Your boasts about being a lecturer in Modern European History – yeh right I’m sure most believe you (Not).

  • 153 Rotonda heights // Jan 24, 2016 at 1:04 PM


    well then it comes down to a drastically failing scouting / playing system when vardy comes out of non league for peanuts and we shell out fortunes for riviere, mitro etc

  • 154 toon22 // Jan 24, 2016 at 1:04 PM

    We have struggled to score goals this season,SMC took out one player who is getting goals and left another who isnt up front on his own.
    We went 3 at the back,something thats never worked at the toon but more importantly took Janmatt out of the game meaning we had no crosses at all.
    After 10 mins you could see it wasnt working he should have put one of the CBs to left back and went 4 at he back id have put Lacelles there as not to split out centre 2.
    Replace arrons with Perez and gone with him as No 10 role.
    The midfileds been totally un ballanced for years so the rest dont really matter.

    Insted he dithered and left it untill it was over then subbed for a even more baffeling formation i doubt even he understood.
    The guys as big of a muppet as the owner,maybe thats why he hired him….

  • 155 Munster Mag // Jan 24, 2016 at 1:04 PM

    Jail be careful, youvwill be called a pardew lover if you try to show reason and logic to Catchy

  • 156 Mister Tuff // Jan 24, 2016 at 1:09 PM

    Whoah – Moanster jumping in with a blindside shot.
    Just because you are embarrassed because of your man love and man crushes – you should not lash out.

    It is revealing what the natural/default positions are when things are not going your way – now best chums with Jack Root a clear multiple.
    Don’t climb into bed with idiots like him just to get a dig at me.

  • 157 Munster Mag // Jan 24, 2016 at 1:09 PM

    Rotunda i am laughing a bit re pardew too because i have two palace mates. But if u point the finger at carr re players u have to say that carr didnt help the window glazing unmentionable either. If we sack smc, carr will guide on who we shud appoint too. Its the carr show. He is the DOF in all but title

  • 158 Munster Mag // Jan 24, 2016 at 1:11 PM

    Tuff, blindside shot? I called you a shite. How less blindside can that be, Mr low hanging fruit.

  • 159 manxpie // Jan 24, 2016 at 1:12 PM

    Again rotunda we gambled you could say Leicester have been incredibly lucky as well with them two players
    Everton went out and spent 28 mill on lukaku and without him tthey’d be down with us
    we gamble every year on players with potential when Wat we need especially in the core of the team is experience and it seems charnley and Ashley are scratching there heads as to why it ain’t working it’s a bloody joke

  • 160 Mister Tuff // Jan 24, 2016 at 1:14 PM

    Looks like a new group is being formed.
    Jib/Welsh/Moanster/Jack Rot/Ian Toon and his gang – versus the rest of the blog/decent Toon fans.

  • 161 9 // Jan 24, 2016 at 1:15 PM

    Whether you’re for or against the manager, the relevant question is: what sort of manager would come to work at the NUFC under current (at time of SMc’s appointment) arrangements?
    Answer: NOBODY who has ever been a success anywhere at anything, leaving the field clear for someone such as SMc who in fact, has had success among his spotty CV, therefore making him the best manager we were ever likely to attract.

  • 162 Mag52 // Jan 24, 2016 at 1:15 PM

    Ash ley, Sports Direct – Out Out Out.
    Not much more to say really. Championship, here we come.

  • 163 manxpie // Jan 24, 2016 at 1:21 PM

    I still can’t get over the fact Austin cost 4 mill we were interested when he was valued at 10+ but not at 4!
    Same with gomis interested at 7-10 not when he’s free!
    Stinks of conning fans into thinking we’re actively pursuing players when we are clearly not

  • 164 Mister Tuff // Jan 24, 2016 at 1:21 PM

    Moanster – wow – you a really a mischevious leprachaun – you betray your own Irish countrymen by slithering up with those who abuse those very countrymen – just to further your pot shots at me.
    Dare I say another Judas.

  • 165 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 24, 2016 at 1:22 PM

    Jack…nothing positive has happen since that last game against WHam other than we won!

  • 166 Rotonda heights // Jan 24, 2016 at 1:23 PM


    that seems to be the grim reality, but i’m sure we could have tried harder for a modern coach like sampauli and others, as it is a very foreign set up we have which will never sit well with an english / brit manager

  • 167 Jack Root // Jan 24, 2016 at 1:24 PM

    I have noticed that Mister Tuff tends to thrash about when his opinions are challenged. He loses any sense of perspective and says hurtful things like he has about Bobby Moncur. Most of our older fan base mention Moncur as the sort of defender we should be looking to buy.
    They also frequently mention Shearer and Rob Lee.
    Ron Knee
    If things don’t change they stay the same is maintaining the status quo.
    Change takes time and players have to but into it! To repeat, we were in a hell of a mess when McClaren took over. We are making progress.

  • 168 Rotonda heights // Jan 24, 2016 at 1:24 PM


    i think it’s very, very well documented he wanted to stay down south

  • 169 manxpie // Jan 24, 2016 at 1:25 PM

    9 exactly who would come and who could change much we have an injury hit squad without a scoring striker
    I feel we’ll still stay up Norwich will sink and I think we’ll do alright at home but with an experienced striker brought in we’d make the job a whole lot easier

  • 170 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Jan 24, 2016 at 1:26 PM

    This season has been a disaster and its been coming for a few seasons now

    Mclarens remit was to get the best out of the squad that he currently had with a few additions that Carr had already picked from scouting in other leagues !

    No top level manager would have taken that remit on they would have wanted full control which for some reason Ashley does not want he would rather someone with no management experience choose the players !!!

    The best option for the club to work under their restrictions would have been to get a talented young foreign coach who is used to working with technical players and also with a Director of Football system

  • 171 Rotonda heights // Jan 24, 2016 at 1:30 PM


    ”The best option for the club to work under their restrictions would have been to get a talented young foreign coach who is used to working with technical players and also with a Director of Football system”

    100% spot on

  • 172 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Jan 24, 2016 at 1:36 PM


    But then a club of our size and wealth should not be working under those restrictions !! We should have a top quality manager who works with the scouting teams to get the players that he wants to play in his system !

  • 173 Jack Root // Jan 24, 2016 at 1:36 PM

    You need to look more closely. Or go to Specsavers. True there has not been a consistency in our play but we have been trying to catch up due to an abysmal start. We should have won the opening game v saints but the quality of performance was far better than under JC. We need to start turning this into winning against sides down near the bottom. Next home game is against West Brom and we might just include Berahino. It’s only all doom and gloom if you let it be. Change your mindset and undertake the freezeblock challenge.

  • 174 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Jan 24, 2016 at 1:39 PM

    When you see Everton playing at the moment they are not playing with a lot of confidence they also have a semi final and an Fa Cup game coming up before they play us

    Mclaren has to set us up correctly because we need a win better have a new striker and a left back in the line up as a priority !

  • 175 toonking // Jan 24, 2016 at 1:39 PM


    The only people who shouldn’t be too bothered about palace and a continuous bad run of form in the next month will be those like myself, swansea, bournemouth and sunderland can get a win for all i’ll take relegation as a pinch of salt because as far as i’m concerned it’s championship football this fat b@stard deserves.

    how long before he’ll need to go for puppets like kermin the frog?

  • 176 Jib // Jan 24, 2016 at 1:46 PM

    With a couple of points won on the road we should make 40 points easily.

    I see us as Leicester last season , a work in progress.

  • 177 Jack Root // Jan 24, 2016 at 1:55 PM

    Just ignore him. He’s lost traction and has alienated so many people on the blog. Expatmag , who has known him for nearly 50 years says he was a mackem fan growing up. He insisted that he wasn’t on a wind up and carried pictures of someone called Charlie Hurley.
    The most affable and football knowledgeable Jimmy (Jinky) Smith took him to task earlier in the week. He’s used to getting his own way by bullying and an embittered attitude towards those with an alternative opinion. At which point I’ve noticed he suggests obsessively of multiples. Dont stop saying what you want. It’s what makes the blog interesting.

  • 178 welshgeordie9 // Jan 24, 2016 at 1:57 PM

    Mister Tuff
    January 24, 2016
    Looks like a new group is being formed.
    Jib/Welsh/Moanster/Jack Rot/Ian Toon and his gang – versus the rest of the blog/decent Toon fans.

    Don’t make me laugh Mrs Tuff.

  • 179 welshgeordie9 // Jan 24, 2016 at 1:58 PM

    Good game so far between Everton and Swans.


  • 180 bettyswallocks // Jan 24, 2016 at 2:04 PM

    Jesper…… You make lots of comments that are completely without substance. What do you gain from this? I asked you recently when you were criticising young Jamie Sterry if you had seen him play and you didn’t reply. You obviously haven’t and as you openly admit you hardly ever bother to watch the team play, how can you be the authority you portray yourself to be.
    You then make a statement about Ashley’s contribution last year which you refuse to explain. What is your agenda if you don’t mind me asking?

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