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Why Do Newcastle Not Sign These Players?

2:21 pm, Sunday, January 24th, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 264 Comments

Newcastle currently have a very poor defense and we have the third worst defensive record in the Premier League with only Norwich and Sunderland conceding more than the 41 goals we have conceded in our 23 games.

Last season we conceded 63 goals, the second worst only to relegated QPR,  so you cannot accuse us of having a good defense – but we don’t see much effort being made this month to bring in some new defenders.

joel matip

Joel Matip – available as free agent this summer

And yesterday we had only four fit defenders available and had to alter the formation of the team because of that.

So even though injuries are again starting to decimate the squad like it did last season at this time, there seems no urgency by those at the top to bring in any new defenders in January.

We have been linked for a while with Schalke’s top center-back Joel Matip, who becomes a free agent in the summer, and we were also linked with Lorient center-back Lamine Kone – and both would cost a low £5M this month.

However, it doesn’t look good for us getting Matip, as the Liverpool Echo is reporting today that Matip is  high on Jurgen Klopp’s transfer targets and they want to sign him when he becomes a free agent this summer.

They could even get him to sign a pre-contract agreement this month and then have him sign for them officially in the summer.

Why aren’t Newcastle actively after him, because he would be a very good value as a free agent?

Of course with us being 3rd bottom of the Premier League our negotiating stance has taken a big hit this season.

We will probably unload the likes of Mike Williamson to Wolves although on the positive side Steven Taylor is returning to fitness and was on the bench yesterday.

Just so that we have some back-up cover in case of injuries, we’d like to see Mike Williamson stay at Newcastle until the summer when his contract runs out and he will leave Newcastle.

We can unload other players like Sylvain Marveaux, Manu Riviere and Yoan Gouffran to open up places in the Premier League list of 25.

It’s just surprising that no effort is being made to bring in some defenders this month.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.

Tags: Newcastle News · Premier League · Recruitment · Transfer News and Rumours · Transfer Target

264 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Tsunki // Jan 24, 2016 at 2:24 PM

    I know why

  • 2 JAMSHA // Jan 24, 2016 at 2:25 PM

    No Comments…… ASHLEY Needs To Goooooooo, Same Shit Next Season If We Stay Up

  • 3 Ron Knee // Jan 24, 2016 at 2:25 PM

    West Lancs

    But it certainly adds spice to what would normally be a humdrum game.

  • 4 Rotonda heights // Jan 24, 2016 at 2:26 PM

    because we are run by sub-standard, unambitious unknowlegeable, incompetent people.

  • 5 archaeomag // Jan 24, 2016 at 2:28 PM

    Perhaps they don’t read your blog ED

  • 6 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 24, 2016 at 2:30 PM

    We don’t sign the likes of Matip because of high wage demands. Apparently Southampton agreed to pay Austin £100000 PW. Our top “earner”is Colo £60000PW & also yes Marvaux £60000PW. He must be forcd off the payroll even if we allow him away on a free. WE paid £11 for Thauvin .Instead of giving him an easy out by loaning back out we should say button down & shows what we paid £11M for instead of thinking of spending another £10/11M on another sick note

  • 7 WWSBRD // Jan 24, 2016 at 2:32 PM

    Thought I’d read Matip had signed for Liverpool

  • 8 toon kk // Jan 24, 2016 at 2:32 PM

    Swansea may be just above us in the league, but there football and passing is far superior. We haven’t got the players to play there style of play, they’ll pass us off the pitch, so forget us picking up points against them.
    We’re a bottom three club because we’re 18th worst team in the premier league. We would probably just escape relegation with a top proven striker.

  • 9 banjax // Jan 24, 2016 at 2:33 PM

    players does not address fundamental problems. For me McLaren remains our no1 problem and Charnley no2. Mike Ashley’s seeming inability to hire a charismatic manager like Benitez, DeBoer and even Moyes, smacks of indecision and lack of ambition. With money to spend and with McLarens record it would be a no brainier for any other club, but our seeming ‘rabbit in the headlights’ mentality, I am now (wasn’t till now) convinced we will be relegated because clubs like Swansea are beginning to find their form and pull away from us. McLaren isn’t and never was the manager for NUFC and if you don’t believe me look at his Derby County Stats (and Charnley hired him on those) then look at our stats so is it any surprise we will be relegated !

  • 10 nearly // Jan 24, 2016 at 2:38 PM

    west lancs geordie@6

    i would love to no where you get ya imformation from regarding players wages

  • 11 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 24, 2016 at 2:39 PM

    Jamsha. I’m no fan of Ashley but what more does he have to do to satisfy you? He has already “invested” about £70M this season & it seems there is more money (Probably another £30M available) The players we seem to buy need time whilst players other teams get seem to hit the ground running. We made three excellent signings in Shelvey, Gini & Mbembe . Mad Mitro needs to ask Ashley if he will buy him a brand new pair of shooting boots. Trouble is with NUFC you either get out of this world football or never in this world football.

  • 12 manxpie // Jan 24, 2016 at 2:40 PM

    Our last fixtures
    West Brom
    man City
    crystal palace


  • 13 Tsunki // Jan 24, 2016 at 2:41 PM

    Ashley apologists persevere despite the object of their devotion continually throwing them under the unstoppable juggernaut. It can only be for the pleasure and satisfaction they derive from the recoiling and dismay they cultivate with their invariably nonsensical propaganda.

    We have the out and out supporters who see the blame resting on scouts, directors, coaching staff. But not at the door of the man who owns and dictates the mode of the club, Mike Ashley who actually said in a video statement that his door is where it all stops. So anyone who says it’s Carrs fault, McLaren’s fault or the tea lady’s fault, please shut it and refer to your glorious leaders statement. He says it’s His fault, so believe him if you love him that much.

  • 14 manxpie // Jan 24, 2016 at 2:44 PM

    Need at least 5 wins out of them 3 at home and 2 away that I can see plus a few draws

  • 15 WWSBRD // Jan 24, 2016 at 2:44 PM

    There is really quite a lot Ashley can do to move towards satisfying fans

  • 16 Tsunki // Jan 24, 2016 at 2:44 PM

    West Lancs – it’s not as simple as saying Ashley has invested etc.. you have to wait for the next accounts report to see what has actually been “invested” after player trading.

  • 17 BandB // Jan 24, 2016 at 2:46 PM

    We could dump all our deadwood on Rangers again.
    Oh no! We can’t.
    Because Rangers fans didn’t crawl up Ashley’s *rse to die.

  • 18 Ron Knee // Jan 24, 2016 at 2:46 PM


    That’s no way to speak of our generous benefactor.

  • 19 WWSBRD // Jan 24, 2016 at 2:46 PM

    U forget mate Ashley removed himself from NUFC during the summer so can’t be his fault anymore

  • 20 Toon Tang // Jan 24, 2016 at 2:48 PM

    Chuff sakes Everton

  • 21 toon kk // Jan 24, 2016 at 2:49 PM

    While agree we could do better than Macca, what do you really think we’re currently capable of? Who’s going to score our goals? We have NO proven striker, not one. Our defence is weak and has been for a long time. We lack options on the bench.
    People talk like we had Real Madrid’s side with a dodgy manager. We are paying a price for an inept board failing to recognise our problems, or choosing the wrong options for the chance of making a few quid.

  • 22 mindshaft // Jan 24, 2016 at 2:50 PM

    Liverpool apparently already have an agreement for Matip to John n them in the summer so no chance of us getting him
    As much as I like Mitro he has to be dropped , he has no confidence and couldnt score if the opposition goalie went off for a loo break , maybe we can get Shola back … scored one of the goals of the day yesterday
    kin Swansea winning as well, not a good weekend for toon

  • 23 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 24, 2016 at 2:54 PM

    Nearly 10
    Here was the wage structure 12 months ago:
    Tim Krul 25 £35,000 2017
    Rob Elliot 27 £12,000 2016
    Fabricio Coloccini 31 £60,000 2016
    Mike Williamson 29 2016
    Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa 24 £60,000 2018
    Steven Taylor 27 £35,000 2016
    Davide Santon 22 £25,000 2016
    Ryan Taylor 28 £30,000 2015
    Massadio Haidara 20 2018
    Mathieu Debuchy 28 2018
    Vurnon Anita 24 £35,000 2017
    Yohan Cabaye 27 £55,000 2016
    Moussa Sissoko 23 £35,000 2019
    Dan Gosling 23 £25,000 2014
    Gaël Bigirimana 19 2017
    Cheik Tioté 27 £35,000 2017
    Jonás Gutiérrez 30 £40,000 2015
    Romain Amalfitano 23 2015
    Haris Vuckic 20 2016
    Sylvain Marveaux 27 £60,000 2016
    Hatem Ben Arfa 26 £65,000 2015
    Gabriel Obertan 24 £40,000 2016
    Sam Ameobi 21 2015
    Loïc Rémy 26 £60,000 2014
    Papiss Demba Cissé 28 £40,000 2017
    Yoan Gouffran 27 £55,000 2017
    Shola Ameobi 31 £30,000
    LOOK AT MARVAUX,GOUFFRAN,OBERTAN & TAYLOR RIDICULOUS!!!!! And the Colo knockers – he’s on £65K now

  • 24 Tsunki // Jan 24, 2016 at 2:54 PM

    Yo – I know mate that’s probably one of the limp excuses used by the AA to distance the Great Benefactor from this mess.

  • 25 JAMSHA // Jan 24, 2016 at 2:57 PM

    its never ashleys fault….

  • 26 Tsunki // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:00 PM

    To excuse himself from his own “At my door” video testimony, Ashley invented the idea of being no part of the club by appointing a board of directors of which he was not one, thereby removing his door, Monsters, Inc. style, neatly from the equation. However it doesn’t stop him being the outright owner and dismantling his board, and trying out another one.

  • 27 WWSBRD // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:00 PM

    Where have u gotten that from?

    But mate we have the magical new board Ashley has nothing to do with NUFC…wait are we being lied to? Surely not…Christ I miss football currently reading touching distance and my word it’s heart breaking comparing it to now

  • 28 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:02 PM

    Listen bloggers I’m no Ashley fan but if we would have been riding high after our summer signings all clicked would you still be knocking him – Answer NO
    McLaren is here because no one else wanted the job – end of.
    Klopp wasn’t interested ,Garde & Harry wern’t interested & neither were a shedload of other high profile candidates.
    No,nobody wanted to work for Ashley & his regime but we will always support this club no matter wot & regrettably we are stuck with them – end of

  • 29 davetoon // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:03 PM

    We have to pray that Norwich keeps losing and we can pick up a few points at home

  • 30 nearly // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:04 PM

    west lancs

    where does this list come from

  • 31 spitfire_ // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:07 PM

    WWSBRD @ 19

    Actually can be his fault, and it’s his fault. Since he hired Charnley for MD. Because Charnley run the club on daily basis. And what kind of guy is Charnley? A guy without any experience at this position. A guy who don’t have the contacts in the world of football. And the most important thing – a guy who doesn’t understand the football! He thought last January that 5 fit defenders was enough ffs… and that almost cost us. It was obvious for every single fan, that strengthen the defence is a must, after the last two seasons… just Charnley didn’t saw it. In the summer, he bought just Mbemba and offered a new contract to Colo, and as it looks by this date, this will cost us.

    So yeah, ashley may distant himself out of Newcastle, but he also was the person who choose the new boss in Newcastle United. The guy who haunted tirelessly McClaren, after his first two rejects.

    If we accept that Newcastle United Football Club is person who is sentenced to death, ashley isn’t the guy who pull the trigger. ashley is the judge, who pronounced the sentence, because the executioner just follow orders.

  • 32 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:07 PM

    WWSBRD 27
    Just found a more up to date players wages site even more frightening but Marvaux not on it – don’t know why not -too embarrassing?
    Sorry about the passion to play like champions not my words
    I was not making it up boys!!

  • 33 Ron Knee // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:08 PM

    Swansea supporters must be having kittens.

  • 34 Toon Tang // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:09 PM

    Or lambs

  • 35 WWSBRD // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:13 PM

    I was being sarcy mate sorry…seems a few didn’t pick up on it…am in total agreement with u haha

    Ermmm mate that high quality list has young Sammy on 80+k a week might not want to believe everything on the Internet haha

    Oh and as for no one wanting the toon job off the top of my head De Boer name dropped us publicly twice

  • 36 davetoon // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:14 PM

    Everton have no end product at all

  • 37 Rotonda heights // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:15 PM


    I think people do realise that ultimately it is Ashley who appointed these sub par people.
    For just one e xample, no knowlegeable football person appoints JFK, a man with vascular dementia, not one but twice.

    So yes Ash finally sanctioned some long overdue funds entrusted the allocation of it them to a near 80 year old over promoted scout and a glorified teaboy.

  • 38 Toon Tang // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:15 PM

    Goufran picking up 55grand a week simply blows my tiny little mind

  • 39 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:15 PM

    Spitfire I’m just playing Devil’s Advocate but I would say that in the season we went down he was ruthless over salaries & did in fact by good housekeeping save us from being the next Leeds UTD.
    That is fact. I don’t like the way the man does business & treats his Sports Direct staff like sweatshop workers. Poor rights poor wages etc etc but I’m only saying wot I’ve seen as regards NUFC. Oh and yes the bloke knows nowt about football or how to look after the fans. Hope those who registered for jackets have refused to take them! P.s. I wasn’t among the 44000 who did

  • 40 Rotonda heights // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:16 PM

    not once but twice

    but then entrusted

  • 41 banjax // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:17 PM

    Toon KK
    We bought Rivière, Cisse, Mitrovic, Perez and De Jong with Rivière in particular unable to score goals. But then you look at the list of players we bought on the cheap like Gouffran, Obertan, Marveaux who are simply not good enough. Then the issue of selling our better players like Cabaye, Debuchy and Then Carr’s wasteful purchases like Thauvin, Cabella, Yanga Mbiwa and Ben Arfa. I could also mention Davide Santon. In other words we have wasted a lot of money with bad judgment and bad players. So to sum up we have forwards who can’t score and the fault of that lies squarely with McLaren and his coaching staff.

  • 42 Toon Tang // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:18 PM

    Can you imagine having to give all that rotting dead wood a wage slip each week. I’d be crying into my cinnamon grahams

  • 43 Ron Knee // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:18 PM

    Or cygnets

  • 44 mindshaft // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:18 PM

    haha – that wage list is completely made up, Sammi Ameobi on 84k a week

  • 45 Rotonda heights // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:18 PM

    west lancs
    3rd from bottom would suggest ”never in this world football” more often than not.

  • 46 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:19 PM

    WWSBRD Yeah saw Sammy probably £8K
    but can’t see them getting them all wrong. Perhaps Marvaux requested them to take his name off the list because he was ashamed to be picking up all that money for F – NOWT

  • 47 mindshaft // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:19 PM

    and Swansea start to pull away from us … we’re doomed

  • 48 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:19 PM

    This Swansea result is a disaster for us !!

  • 49 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:22 PM

    RH Couldn’t agree more – just frustrating we can put in performances like we did against Liverpool & West Ham and then get our tiny hopes dashed at watford when none of em turn up. But thats good old NUFC little alters

  • 50 angelswithdirtyfaces // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:22 PM

    Jib // Jan 24, 2016 at 1:46 PM
    With a couple of points won on the road we should make 40 points easily.
    I see us as Leicester last season , a work in progress.

    I note you’ve not offered an explanation for your repeated positive backing for the achievements of club, owner, manager and players this season. I was hoping for a bit more rationale tbh.

    So, in the absence of any justification for your inveterate optimism, do you think we need any more signings this window to reach the ‘down to the wire’ heights of 40pts this season ?

    Only yesterday you were saying this:
    “In fact if we went a winning run that this squad is more than capable of achieving .. we could be pushing for Europe!” (sic)

    I think its barely 50/50 us surviving, we can still definitely do it, though the arithmetic is marginal, but it looks less likely with every week that passes. Is that a reasonable viewpoint ?

  • 51 Toon Tang // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:22 PM

    There isn’t a figure next to sammy on my mobile. It just says sam ameobi 21

  • 52 davetoon // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:22 PM

    Amazing that Swansea change manager and get 6 pts immediately

  • 53 toon kk // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:23 PM

    Going off our clubs wage bill we have no one on mega money like top clubs, but we’re actually wasting thousands every week on over rated or basic players.

  • 54 ilovetoon8788 // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:23 PM

    Swansea 3 points against Everton. We are chuffed…

  • 55 angelswithdirtyfaces // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:23 PM

    davetoon bet they will when we play them

  • 56 WWSBRD // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:24 PM

    Why can’t u see a dodgy website getting all the wages wrong? Seems more likely than football clubs all leaking their wages to them I’d say

    They’ve also shot us up the rich list we are 12th in the world apparently

  • 57 Tsunki // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:25 PM

    Rotonda – ah do they realise? Ashley is successfully distancing himself from criticism these days, as the blog vitriol to Charnley and Carr shows.

    Perhaps they don’t realise that although the Board comprises directors with executive control of the day to day running of the company, ‘ in it’s best interests’, it is accountable to the shareholders, and can be removed by them by Ordinary Resolution. Oh wait, how many shareholders do nufc have?

  • 58 ilovetoon8788 // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:26 PM

    If we are not planning to change manager..we should be focusing on financial stability in the championship.. We need to start preparing alrdy.. We need to be scouting players who will play for us in the championship. Forget about signing anyone else this window. Because if it’s mclaren we are going down. Guaranteed.

  • 59 toonking // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:26 PM

    everton 1-2 swansea that’s another team getting points and drifting further away from ourselves

    Look on the bright side palace are on a losig streak and as RH would say that’s a good thing.

  • 60 Barton // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:26 PM

    That Swansea result has bugger’d us now,the gap is opening up,no way fat-man going to splurge another 20-30 mill now,he’s not going to throw even more money after bad,he has to act,Fatman oot,penfold oot,wally oot!!

  • 61 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:27 PM

    Mineshaft were down the MINESHAFT! No we can’t keep relying on other clubs to do the job for us. We must start winning regularly ourselves but need
    No pressure then

  • 62 toon kk // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:27 PM

    It’s not about what other clubs do its what we do, if we can’t win our games it because we’re not good enough and don’t belong in the premier league.
    It’s upto MA to get a team together that can compete.

  • 63 Jib // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:27 PM

    I never thought the Swans or us were in the mix 3 bottom places between the Mackems Villa Norwich and Bournemouth and Fat Sam will probably save the scum.

  • 64 Ron Knee // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:30 PM


    When has this club planned anything? We seem to lurch between smug complacency and blind panic.

  • 65 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:32 PM

    I was only asked where I got the info from. Don’t just accuse me of using dodgy websites.
    I think if those figures were inflated at least the players on them would be making representations to them.
    Anyhow it doesn’t matter – I tried to make point about offloading the wastrels & tried to back it up with evidence which has been dismissed. Let’s hope he gives a start next game to Marvaux, Gouffran, Rivier,e Williamson & Co. Surely they can’t do any worse

  • 66 toon kk // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:34 PM

    MA has had his regime running mainly unsuccessfully for a long time, had he had any brains and wanted to run his regime with a chance of success he should have been scouting the championship for players to mix in with quality, instead of scouting for French flops.

  • 67 mainemagpie // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:34 PM

    From a purely statistically point of view using form over the last 15 matches played, starting from Newcastle’s win v Norwich, Newcastle actually have the highest points per game than any of the bottom 6 (including Swansea winning just now).

    Bournemouth 1.13
    Newcastle 1.2
    Swansea 1.0
    Sunderland 1.06
    Norwich 0.73
    Villa 0.6

    Using McClaren’s claim that “if we keep playing like this we will stay up”, projecting the last 15 games, the bottom 6 after 38 games would look like this

    Bournemouth 42
    Newcastle 39
    Swansea 37
    Sunderland 35
    Norwich 34
    Villa 22

    Ironically the same points for Newcastle as last season.

  • 68 Toon Tang // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:34 PM

    We could do with an updated grays sports almanac

  • 69 Rotonda heights // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:35 PM


    blasted everton. double whammy would have put CP down to 12th and kept swansea only 1 point ahead!!

  • 70 davetoon // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:35 PM

    Well Everton have to play 2 cup games before we play them so no excuses

  • 71 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:36 PM

    I like your approach Ron Knee. Pleasant interlude in between all the doom gloom & pessimism. Half the Blog have thrown the towel in because Swansea have beaten Everton.
    Going to watch some decent football now – no not Arsenal and Chelski
    Hamilton Accies V Hearts = by the way only joking

  • 72 hibbitt // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:38 PM

    take the blinkers off……….if you are so sure we will stay up will you and your alto ego’s leave the blog if we go down

  • 73 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:38 PM

    Don’t think Everton will miss the chances they missed against us
    If our players give up like a lot of the bloggers on here then we are relegated before we go on the pitch.

  • 74 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:39 PM

    I think the priorities are left back and maybe a striker. I would sign Raphael Guerriero and Loic Remy.

    Alternatives would be Willems and Aly Cissokho at left back.

    Berahino and Lacazette would be striking alternatives. I think we can win all our home games but I thin we’ll lose them all away. We need to start winning soon.

    Marveaux needs to start.

  • 75 Rotonda heights // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:40 PM

    our deadwood is reaching unmanageable levels

    De Jong

    A whole team we can’t shift

    Carr has to go. Far more failures than successes now and a huge say in Wally coming in too.

  • 76 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:41 PM

    Well said Charlie!
    We’ve got all the statisticians on now working out which matches have a chance of winning & which we haven’t a cat in hell chance.
    I’m just going to ask Mystic Meg

  • 77 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:44 PM

    Rotunda WE KNOW We’ve also got 10/11 injuries on top of that & that’s why McClaren is finding it difficult to shuffle the pack!

  • 78 Belfast // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:44 PM

    Time for Everton to play their joker.
    Home to Newcastle!

    One win in 10 for Everton.

  • 79 Toon Tang // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:45 PM

    RH, So much damn money wasted eh

  • 80 Malta Mag // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:46 PM

    Ashley has been a problem in the past possibly but to lump it all on him now is wrong. No one can accuse him of not spending money this season but the four man committee now has to look at itself and ask some questions. Are the players being brought in good enough? I think the players are good but were they what we needed? If we are to buy again this week then please address the problem and yes I think goal scoring is now our biggest concern. Will Townsend give enough to supply Mitro with the ammunition from wide? Is he better than Thauvin and Aarons? If we get Berahinho is he ready and good enough to create goals from the current supply line? if not then can we not go all out and get Remy who is not everyone’s favorite person but we know he can do the job. Is our defence getting better and have we enough in reserve to see us through till the end of the season?
    Ashley will spend for sure but are the four man committee up to the job? That’s the million dollar question?

  • 81 nearly // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:47 PM

    could be wrong but i think a striker and winger will happen this window ,it will make all the difference for now,lb and cb wont happen till the summer

  • 82 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:47 PM

    Why do we want Matip or others when the club and most fans on here love Colo? Who is a new CB going to replace? Colo? Surely not?

    Well old Blackley saw almost where the weaknesses lay. Colo. What was he doing again yesterday? What he does most games. Going AWOL. Ball watching. No bravery. No aggression. No leadership. No physicality. You can’t have that in a central position in front of your own sticks.

    And we’ve got no killer instinct. How many bloggers told me Mitro and Perez would bring home the bacon? My first impression of Mitro was he’s slow and lumbering. Not a popilar thing to say at the time. What is the club playing at? If it wasn’t obvious at the start of the season as it was to me, it was surely obvious at the start of this window. Now we’re at the end of the window and we’ve got two midfielders.

    I said immediately that Cabella and Thauvin aren’t right. I’ve seen half an hour of Saivet and that was enough to worry me. There’s a lot of sleep walking going on at the club and on this blog. Sort out the midfielder and the goals will come and we’ll start keeping them out, some were saying. Dear me.

  • 83 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:48 PM

    *Almost immediately

  • 84 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:50 PM

    I’ve watched Aarons and read in disbelief the calls for him to play.

    I saw Abeid and said he was over rated.

  • 85 BandB // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:50 PM

    We are blaming all the wrong people here.
    Should the club prudently decide it’s spent enough money, thank you very much, then it is clear were the responsibility for avoiding relegation lies.
    It will be the FANS job to put their bellyaching behind them and turn up in droves to cheer the lads across the line.

    Just like last season.

  • 86 WWSBRD // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:51 PM

    Apologises if u took offence from my view point on the website…no sure why u would but hey ho

    My point was that ur basing ur argument on very questionable information from a website that justifies itself by saying essentially we look around and know people so trust us

  • 87 mainemagpie // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:51 PM

    Since Goal Difference is a factor in determining final position for equal points and is considered in itself an extra point, Newcastle also have the better GD than any of the current bottom 6 over the last 15 matches.

    Newcastle -4
    Sunderland -8
    Bournemouth -9
    Swansea -9
    Norwich -14
    Villa -16

  • 88 toonking // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:53 PM

    swansea can be 1 point or 4 points ahead of us doesn’t really matter because as far as you sounded from that post yesterday palace are still just 10 points ahead of us, why else would say palace defeat is a good thing and not say a thing about norwich’s defeat and the draw between scum bournemouth.

    i can see you being more glad to see scums, swansea and bournemouth all get a win over palace than palace to beat them.

  • 89 WWSBRD // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:56 PM

    Aren’t we on -16 goal difference?

  • 90 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:57 PM

    Jamnutz isn’t good enough defensively and he’s profligate going forward. He’s slow and easily turned. And his final ball is crap 9 times out of 10.

  • 91 nearly // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:03 PM

    the club were right to sell abeid so overated cant understand why people are still complaining about that 1 ,mitro will come good we need a striker who is quick and strong to play off him ,we really need a winger who can whip a ball in the box

  • 92 toon kk // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:03 PM

    Looking at Chelsea’s and Arsenal’s bench we only have one player as strong as those players in our first team “Gini” such is the gap in quality.

  • 93 welshgeordie9 // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:04 PM

    According to Sky Sports we have now cooled our interest in Townsend, for the sake of a few million quid, don’t these clowns ever learn.

  • 94 davetoon // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:05 PM

    His final ball wasnt too bad last week for the second goal

  • 95 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:06 PM

    “It will be the FANS job to put their bellyaching behind them and turn up in droves to cheer the lads across the line.

    Just like last season.”

    That’s right. Owners, managers and players come and go but the fans are the one constant. That’s NUFC.

  • 96 toonking // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:07 PM


    why not say the last 16 by including that 6-1 defeat against man city or the last 14 games?

    Those 15 games have seen just 2 results improving our goal difference by 2 or more but we’ve had 3 defeats dropping the goal difference by more than 3 and overall we’re still worse of than those above us and could be in for more big defeats with games against everton, chelsea and especially against city.

  • 97 mainemagpie // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:07 PM

    WWSBRD // Jan 24, 2016 at 3:56 PM
    Aren’t we on -16 goal difference?

    If this in reference to my post showing Newcastle with -4 GD, that number is from our last 15 games played to reflect current form.

  • 98 toonking // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:09 PM


    it is -16 from what i can see he’s just trying to make a bad attack sound positive

  • 99 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:09 PM

    The last game of last season was legendary in the history of NUFC. You’ve got to be there in the bad times to fully appreciate the good times. And we’re all in it together on a match day. Owner, manager, players and fans.

  • 100 Ron Knee // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:10 PM

    Blackley – who seems to prefer the third person – clearly doesn’t do irony.

  • 101 hibbitt // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:11 PM

    Newcastle cool interest in Tottenham’s Andros Townsend
    By Sky Sports News HQ
    at least one bit of good news today

  • 102 lesh // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:13 PM

    Why haven’t we signed or even tried to get a CB? Because Charnley’s assessment is that we’re well covered with Colo, Mbemba, Saylor (about ready to return before he’s injured again) and possibly Dummet. Willo? Well he’s surplus and’ll be sold thus window if he’s fit!

    And, I suspect that Lee (Mr Ambition personified) Charnley’ll probably scared to think of anything other than thinking in terms of relegation and thus not commuting the Club to new players.

    He and Ashley have had weeks to prepare for signings in key areas but no, they’ll be content to play out the charade of ambition by going through the motions of trying but failing to sign a striker and a winger.

    For Nero and Rome read Ashley and Newcastle United.

    In any event, Ashley thinks he’s nicely set things up so his hands are clean but he’s so dumb ge thinks fans’ll fall for it. He’s in for a shock, the shock that Charnley and Moncur, his men on the ground, should’ve prepared him for.

  • 103 mainemagpie // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:15 PM

    Toonking……because there are 15 matches to play before the end of the season…..if there had been 16 matches to play I would have started there. The point is too show the form of the current bottom 6 between now and the end of the season.

  • 104 lesh // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:15 PM

    * commuting? = commiting

  • 105 lochinvar // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:15 PM

    So Swans won at Everton and we lost at Watford – that looks like six points to them

  • 106 BandB // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:16 PM

    Maine magpie

    Current form is usually judged over the last six matches, rather than over more than two thirds of the season so far (as you have chosen) though, isn’t it?
    Fifteen matches…interesting figure to choose 🙂 Why not include the first eight games too.
    And goal difference means nothing without points.
    According to the current form table, over the past six games.

    We have gained six fewer points than Swansea
    Three fewer points than Sunderland
    And two fewer points than Bournemouth, Norwich and even Villa.

    We are losing ground. We are second bottom.

    Palace are bottom 🙂

  • 107 lesh // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:18 PM


    That’s assuming the interest in Townsend was ever there.

    And, if they were serious about strengthening it would’ve been done long before now!

  • 108 Ron Knee // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:18 PM


    Amen to that.

  • 109 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:22 PM

    Do you trust Carr to identify a good winger? And then we should roll over to Mr Levy’s demands? Has Carr got no other irons in the fire? Disgrace. This is when he should be earning his money. Getting the ideal player after the need has been identified.

  • 110 SPRINGY // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:23 PM

    players like matip wont sign for us thats why we wont sign them!….same with lacazette or any quality players….the reality is we are a bottom 3 team and have’nt been out the bottom six all season and have been surrounded by bad press/stories over the last few years….who currently are struggling to score and struggling to stop shipping them in defensively,we are hardly an attractive proposition are we….we may be tempting to townsend,berahino as they want out of there clubs and we may also be tempting to remy as he needs to play to try and get into the france squad….kone is a player i’ve mentioned a few times looks a decent player and if he’s willing to join the mackems then we will interest him surely…but he’s jonny foreigner who myt not hit the ground running and no doubt coming from france will get stick before he’s touched down at the airport…..the only way quality overseas players will sign is if we survive and in the summer sell them “the dream”of building something good and splashing the cash to prove that……make ya own minds up if you think that will happen.

  • 111 Jail for Ashley // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:23 PM

    But we are not riding high are we, and the reason we are not is because indirectly Mike Ashley is making the footballing decisions. To say he isn’t is ludicrous, he has hired a board who are fully compliant with his wishes, a more qualified and experienced board would want paying more for starters and would want their own input if their names were to be associated with what was happening on the pitch. He has a board consisting of at least three people who are desperate for a job in football and will seemingly go along with anything to keep it.

  • 112 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:25 PM

    Ok so we aren’t getting Townsend but I hope to god that we do sign a couple more players, we need them ffs

  • 113 SPRINGY // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:27 PM

    if they have bailed on townsend wonder if that means sinclair now?…unless he’s signed for swansea that is.

  • 114 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:31 PM

    Saying that we have “cooled” our interest in players before and still signed them

  • 115 Tsunki // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:31 PM

    Let’s call to order the AA meeting. First and last item in the agenda, Let’s not blame Mike. No other business. That concludes the meeting.

  • 116 toonking // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:32 PM


    the thing is this doesn’t see each team playing everyone of the others, bournmouth are -9 but 8 was caused by 5-1 defeats against spurs and city, we did get a great result in our first spurs game but our city game resulted in a 6-1 defeat which is worse.What bournmouth haven’t done is concede a large amount of goals to sides like palace and scums.

  • 117 RUNAWAY777 // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:32 PM

    How many of u side swansea would go down new manger and winning they will be safe,now norwich got beat but new striker they got 4 past loverpool so i think they will score goals no trouble,and guess what 52,000 idiots will yo to watch a team that cant score.

  • 118 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:33 PM

    I and it going to get any easier over the next five games
    Everton A
    West Brom H
    Chelsea A
    Man City H
    Stoke A

    If we get nowt out of those five games then I think that is it
    But we have not got to throw the towel in, and hopefully pick up a couple of wins
    Got to get at least

  • 119 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:34 PM

    Swansea will go down along with Sunderland and Villa. One win doesn’t make a season, we learnt that ourselves

  • 120 colwell // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:34 PM

    Fair play Swansea pulling themselves away, Its pretty obvious we are gone we concede far to many goals and this time can’t score. We are relying (trying to) on 2 players that cant get in their own teams to save us. Look at Villa their chairman as resigned himself to relegation we may as well now too.

    On a positive note I enjoyed our last time in the championship the most i’ve enjoyed us play for years, every cloud and that. Championship here we come.

  • 121 toonking // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:35 PM


    that’s the best way of putting it really.

  • 122 hibbitt // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:35 PM

    Take a Chancel on me
    now i wont sleep tonight with the thought of that master stroke what a cunning plan only mr bishop could come up with that one

  • 123 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:38 PM

    Charnley has already wasted millions on Thauvin on Carr’s advice. You can’t blame him for getting cold feet on Turnip Townsend. And Mr Levy trying to extract more and more money.

    The boys at the top have left themselves exposed and there’s something to be said for the schadenfreude at seeing them having to bend over. So far, as expected, this window has been another balls up. No striker. No defender. What a bunch of clueless knackers.

  • 124 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:38 PM

    I have faith Hibbit that’s all, we are building a decent team, we just need to put a good run together it isn’t beyond us

  • 125 Setchell // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:40 PM

    Havent posted on here for a while, but just wanted to ask whats with the dislike towards townsend? He is better than any winger we have at the minute, think people are forgetting our position we are 3Rd bottom world beaters aint going to want to come here! Get the best we possibly can and townsend is that in my opinion, he is an England international and if starts enough games will go to the euros. Berahino on the other hand isnt getting any stick and he is poor, but again I dont expect anyone better wanting to come here. When pardew was here people said they hated the football and tactics he used, and yet mclaren plays decent football but players are inconsitant yet people still complain. Ashley has spent money, yet the fans still getting at him. Dont get me wrong I dont forgive him for what he has done in the past but he has kept his word from last game of season. Other fans are been prpved right alot of Newcastle fans are deluded. Seen someone put on here earlier to sack mclaren and get mourinho… Come on get real!!

  • 126 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:42 PM

    Big Mike has employed Charnley and Carr, who have employed Makro. Mike has put the future of NUFC and his own massive investment in their hands. Says it all who is responsible.

  • 127 Tsunki // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:42 PM

    As the clubs major shareholder Mike has the leverage and the excuse to dispense with his directors. I wonder why he doesn’t? Perhaps there’s a really good reason why he is putting off putting that resolution forward. To himself.

  • 128 RUNAWAY777 // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:44 PM

    Take a chance on me. New manger thats all they needed,if u think this lot will pull us of the shit where in keep thinking untill the last match when u think shit they where right

  • 129 BandB // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:44 PM


    I think the club has probably crunched the numbers, and figure some of the other teams have a harder run-in than us on paper.

    I’m keeping an eye on the teams getting a 10 point cushion on us, because it could soon be quite a few. Others are getting within a couple of wins of 38 points, which will be safety. Again, there are quite a few.

  • 130 BandB // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:46 PM


    I was expecting you…..

    Welcome back.

  • 131 toonking // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:47 PM


    Base on the overall form against these teams we could go into these games with a bit of confidence or atleast us bloggers can and reading what we’re saying on the blog over the course of this season newbies might think we’re wanting these games throughout the season. If that form continues and palace’s form might be where the problems lie as they’re playing 3 of the teams around us and on current form look certain to away these teams 3 points so our continuous form we show against these bigger teams will end up out the window. If we don’t win well this could be the year pardew relegates newcastle.

  • 132 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:48 PM

    What’s wrong with sacking Makro and getting Mourinho?

    Whenever I’ve seen Turnip Townsend in recent times, he’s been poor. Is this the best Carr can come up with in the whole world? Bending over at White Hart Lane? Who is the next Ashley Young? It isn’t Townsend.

  • 133 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:48 PM

    I think were better than Man Utd. They’re overachieving this season. They are the third worst team in the league. Selling Di Maria was a huge mistake.

  • 134 Tsunki // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:49 PM

    Mike’s team. The board. A convincing lot. Given the remit of spending to an on target profit percentage, they have secured Mike’s confidence that they can buy and sell players in rotation without making an overall loss. However they probably also guaranteed Premier league stability in that model. I know Mike loves a flutter, but surely he can’t be too excited with the way his stooges are gambling with his investment? So how come he can’t get his finger out and act? He’s a clever boy in business isn’t he? Whys he sticking with them?

  • 135 King Colback // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:49 PM

    With a face like a mouldy old stottie

  • 136 hibbitt // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:50 PM

    Take a Chancel on me
    not sure your right about that it could be just a false dawn ………the people in charge are making poor decisions which will cost the club dearly the long run

  • 137 toonking // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:50 PM


    it’s nice to try and think like that but i’d say we are the one team that made this poor manure look like a feguson manure during our 3-3 draw.

  • 138 BandB // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:51 PM

    Sorry Setchell

    I’m mixing you up with Saxonfenken.
    I wasn’t expecting you for a week or two.

  • 139 colwell // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:52 PM


    What you think and what the reality is are so far apart its unreal.

    We are the 3rd worst team in the Prem stats and facts don’t lie.

  • 140 Tsunki // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:52 PM

    Someone’s left the back gate open. it’s clattering in the wind.

  • 141 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:52 PM

    I agree Charnley & Carr, are doing a bloody appalling job. Carr has no idea what he is doing the old sot.

  • 142 carl // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:53 PM

    Looking at the latest accounts and the net investment made in players to date, in two transfer windows, where has Ashley not kept his side of any so called deal? Looking at the playing performance and placement outcome we appear as a team to be underperforming . That is on the basis of wage and transfer fees That superficially suggests it’s the coach and players fault. However it has to be accepted that Mike Ashley has delegated responsibility for appointments. This leads me to believe that Charnley, Carr and to a lesser extent because of time in the job and lack of influence over signings McClaren.

    Just where else in the premier league would you find an owner or Chairman held responsible by fans to the same extent as Ashley? Does he really extend the degree of influence and control as you suggest?
    Isn’t it time to cut him some slack?
    Just asking.

    Accounts for the year to 30 June 2014
    Ownership Mike Ashley owns Newcastle United via his company, MASH Holdings Limited, registered in the UK.
    Turnover 7th highest, £130m (up from £96m in 2013)
    Gate and matchday £26m
    TV and broadcasting £78m
    Commercial activities £26m
    Wage bill 7th highest, £78m (up from £62m in 2013)
    Wages as proportion of turnover 60%
    Profit before tax £19m (up from £10m in 2012)
    Net debt £95m
    Interest payable £0.19m

    Highest-paid director Unnamed, £106,793 (Lee Charnley was the managing director)

    There are two ways of looking at Newcastle’s financial picture. Mike Ashley would say it is incomparably healthier than the over-borrowed operation he took over in 2007; money was spent on wages, he has £129m loans interest-free which he did not reduce. Protesting fans see the £19m profit, £39m banked, and ubiquitous free Sports Direct advertising as evidence that Ashley sees the club as a cash cow.

    Newcastle maintain this is unfair and have promised to invest this summer(2015) – as well as appoint a manager. The figures show the money is there.

  • 143 toon kk // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:57 PM

    A big question, How good do people actually think we are?
    Do you actually think we have a team badly managed that should be challenging for the top six?
    Look at the table we’re in the bottom three because that’s where it’s capabilities are.

  • 144 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:57 PM

    Mike probably thinks that there’s a lot of luck involved with football. There is. There’s no guarantees. He wants to make his own luck. He’s spent a fortune but there’s no guarantees in football. It’s an art as much as a science. So perhaps Mike continues to see in Charnley and Carr what he did in the first place? It’s not as if some of our fellow whizz pundits on the blog haven’t been sailing high on a chillum of optimism since September, is it?

  • 145 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:58 PM

    Here’s the games for feb for the bottom 6
    The Mackems have probs the hardest next 4 games followed by us and Bournemouth mind you Norwich are not much easier. Swansea and Villa easier games

    So my theory is if we can still be in and about these teams after February I think we have a great chance of staying up.

    If we get cast adrift then we are going to have to win 2 more games than the rest to catch up in the last 11

    Going to be Tough but got to be positive

    Tuesday, Wed 2/3 February 2016
    Norwich City v Tottenham Hotspur
    Sunderland v Manchester City
    Aston Villa v Crystal Palace
    Bournemouth v Manchester United
    West Bromwich Albion v Swansea
    Everton v Newcastle United

    Saturday, 6/7 February 2016
    Aston Villa vs. Norwich City
    Liverpool vs.Sunderland
    Newcastle United vs. West Bromwich Albion
    Swansea City vs Crystal Palace
    Bournemouth vs. Arsenal

    Saturday, Sunday 13/14 February 2016
    Sunderland vs. Manchester United
    Bournemouth vs Stoke City
    Norwich City vs. West Ham United
    Swansea City vs. Southampton
    Chelsea v Newcastle United
    Aston Villa vs.Liverpool

    Saturday Sunday, 27/28 February 2016
    West Ham United vs.Sunderland
    Leicester City vs.Norwich City
    Stoke City vs.Aston Villa
    Watford vs. Bournemouth
    Tottenham Hotspur vs. Swansea City
    Newcastle v Man City

  • 146 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:58 PM

    Toon KK I do think we have a very good team that is underperforming under a poor head coach, get a decent coach in and we would be flying

  • 147 SPRINGY // Jan 24, 2016 at 4:59 PM

    wish macca would’nt do interviews coz he just makes things worse by saying shite we were tremendous and controlled the game….fool

  • 148 Setchell // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:03 PM


    I keep it all in then come on and have a rant about everything haha.


    There would be nothing wrong with it if it was realistic, there is no way mourinho would ruin his career coming to us. Mourinho doesnt play ‘good’ football anyway, which is what most fans cried out for when pardew was in charge.

    I hope we do sign a cb, winger and striker. And everyones wishlist would be different but realastic targets would be a pretty slim choice. Surely at the mo anyone os worth a gamble anyway? Especially English? Not many will agree but I think English should be our main targets

  • 149 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:03 PM

    Disagree. We’re better than Man Utd. We should’ve beat them. It was 4 points dropped.

  • 150 gonufc (Newcastle United Sports Direct Advertising Club) // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:03 PM

    OH Wow! Kets is back!!!

    The man that said Marveaux had potential to be better than Messi. That is not out of context, it is literally what he said.

  • 151 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:04 PM

    Don’t ask Tsunki to look at the accounts. Especially not the commercial revenues of £26m. And don’t ask him to compare to other club’s figures. Because other clubs earn massive amounts on advertising, don’t you know. His blood pressure would rocket.

  • 152 Tsunki // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:06 PM

    Carl/Ian – no. it’s not time to cut him some slack. There are many here who think they understand the figures and what they project onto their view of nufc as a club. But there remain baffling financial arrangements which can only be understood logically under the magnifying glass of Ashley and his relationship with Sports Direct.

    The financial solidity of Nufc is not a benefit to the fans. We could support the team if it was in league one and financed by a scaffolding firm. It is an expedient measure to maintain the clubs commercial standing, stay in the PL, Rake in the Broadcasting payments, match day revenue and merchandising will remain commensurate. Factor in the cost/benfit to player investment versus league position ( for merit payments) and if you are in profit overall, as expected you would then calculate your projected spend budget on players to maintain that status quo.

    The question really is, is it because Mike wants a successful club operating at the top level in it’s sport and thereby increasing revenue from all quarters from the ensuing brand exposure OR is it because Mike needs the club to demonstrate a sustainable model maximising profit for spend over the long term, while the club serves as a merchandising and advertising boon for the grander perspective of SD?

    The performance of the board and the team versus the performance of Mike and SD off the back of it speaks for itself.

  • 153 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:07 PM

    Mourinho might be interested in doing a 6 month salvage operation. If only we had real ambition.

  • 154 toon kk // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:08 PM

    Take a chance
    We haven’t ONE proven striker, so who’s going to get our goals? Macca can’t change that. What about our defence? Looks weak to me.
    If the board recognised those weaknesses and brought in the quality required we would be a mid table side.

  • 155 Setchell // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:09 PM

    I am curious to see what results a poll on whether nufc should sign townsend would be? Anyone else agree?

  • 156 catchy in norway // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:10 PM


    how can i give p45 any credit for the season we finished 5th? I honestly believe he achieved it though luck more than good management or good tactics, he had no clue where to put players, the first half of that season was some of the luckiest wins i had seen from us, long punts up to Ba , band a goal , the lucky 6 game run where he had HBA Cabaye and cisse where on fire was more down to the fact that Oberan was injured and he was forced to play HBA and Cabaye played higher than normal,it soon changed though as he was like a guy at a casino riding his luck betting on black every time and it wins, he quit while he was ahead, and he basically quit any kind of football from then on.

    my argument has never changed regarding P45, crap manager that claims credit for wins but hangs everyone out to dry when they lose.

    as for the games v watford, we are a team in transition and i have seen some of the best football we have played since SBR’s second season, we just dont have a Shearer in our team, and so what that a workman like Watford beat us, Southampton did it all the time, Watford have 2 of the best forwards in the prem, we dont, but the good thing IMO is that we create lots of good chances, so when we do get a good CF we will be a very good team playing at the top end of the table,
    Liverpool are 7th, only scored 5 more than us
    Man U are 5th only scored 3 more than us.

    we play miles better football than both of those 2 teams, we have made huge progress in only months on the football side of things,, P45 had 4 years to implement good football, and he failed just as he is failing at palace right now, they play some of the worst football ive seen this year, but dig out freak results against the run of play, but hey that happens,, i know which id rather watch, and i will settle for where we are because i do see progress on the pitch, i see where we are lacking and that can not be put at Shteves door.

    and please before anyone says Shteve has got x amouts of talent, you dont need the best players to play good football, p45 was beaten 2 time by brighton who played of the pitch both times, its more about football philosophies.

  • 157 RUNAWAY777 // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:11 PM

    By the way lads sinclair about to sign for swansea bit more firepower so yes i think they will be safe wake up stop dreaming what could be we are NUFC it will mo happen

  • 158 toon kk // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:14 PM

    Macca has got us playing more attacking football but we have a poor cutting edge in front of goal and because we push forward we get picked off because our defence is weak.
    But it all depends if we turn up, we’re so inconsistent it’s unbelievable.

  • 159 Setchell // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:14 PM

    Spot on catchy, couldnt have said it better myself

  • 160 SPRINGY // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:17 PM

    mourinho to the toon……never happen!…. but if mourinho is as good as he thinks he is, we would be a crackin challenge for him….but will never happen like i said

  • 161 hibbitt // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:21 PM

    charnley should be tarred and feathered and run oot of toon …..or maybe a set of stocks on northumberland st and pelted with rotten fruit for the mess he’s helped made of our club

  • 162 carl // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:24 PM

    Why respond to me in that way? I thought Blackley was being mischievous so didn’t plan to respond. I could equally address you as Mister Tuff/ Tsunki but I will just forget it. Thought you were reasonable and fair minded.

  • 163 Jib // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:25 PM

    Remy on for an injured Coasta (knee )
    I think we can forget about Loic for this window.

  • 164 Ron Knee // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:26 PM

    Enter Remy.

  • 165 hibbitt // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:27 PM

    catchy in norway
    the problem is this lot that run us don’t see the problem or the answer only ever interested in the short term fix

  • 166 Jib // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:28 PM

    Diego Costa even

  • 167 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:28 PM

    Good goal Austin scored yesterday. The football bods at Southampton have a habit of spotting talent.

    The clock’s ticking for old man Carr. He thinks he left his scouting book on the bus the other day. Although it might be in his house somewhere. A record of ten years of scouting the world potentially lost forever. Unfortunately he couldn’t remember whether Austin was in it or not.

  • 168 Tsunki // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:36 PM

    Carl, you’ve just appeared from a long lay off and I seem to recall that you were pretty similar in style to Ian Toon and / or Jeff in his less alcohol fuelled moments. If you’re not him I apologise but it’s a pretty singular style. On the other hand, Mr T’s style and mine are pretty different. I hear that Pokat and I are more of a match. 😉

    Curiously no response to my actual answer though. And I wouldn’t take pointers from Blackley he couldn’t even convince the copier paper boy that he understood Ashleys finances. 🙂

  • 169 bladeuser // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:37 PM

    On the grapevine nufc have offered shola ameobi a two year contract he is thinking about it although he has informed nufc he would like a three year contract and will only sign that if he can play with his brother
    Nufc are giving his ultimatum serious consideration

  • 170 Rotonda heights // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:38 PM

    thank god apparently interest in townsend cooled.
    anyone who knows anything about football wouldn’t go anywhere near him.

    Carr is nearly 80 and yet seems to have a scary amount of power

  • 171 Tsunki // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:39 PM

    Bladeuser -? 😀

  • 172 BandB // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:41 PM

    That rumour is so bonkers it’s probably true.

  • 173 check the toastie // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:43 PM

    Catchy- agree with most of what you say, especially the Pardew stuff, he’s awful, palace are certainties to go down next year.

    Think lads like you and me are just happy we as a club are improving on the pitch, however its still way below a club like Newcastle should expect.

    However don’t think that’s anything to do with the coaching staff currently, they have inherited a squad who have been lobotomised regards how football should and could be played.

    Think Shteeve and coaching staff stud be given time, we have improved this year and reckon we should be a fair few points better than we are.

    Hope we don’t go down, we might…..

  • 174 Rotonda heights // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:43 PM


    Beniez, de boer have charisma, but moyes is the opposite meaning to charismatic, ie he is dour and dull

  • 175 colwell // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:43 PM

    Graham Carr – God can’t even touch this cnut.

    Shops on a budget buys shite give him money buys shite in all the wrong positions. The guy is a leach sucking on NUFC he is the biggest to blame of all of this. Defense is awful we had 2 dm’s in the middle creating nothing for 20 games, a winger thats weaker than Anita and slower than Willo. Fcuk this pr1ck off and bring in Leicester scouts.

  • 176 Ian Toon // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:43 PM

    Returned a few weeks back to be abused and insulted by blog bully Tuff. Reference to him was an insult. Just forget it.

  • 177 check the toastie // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:45 PM

    wouldn’t welcome Mourinho, he’s Anti football and a complete nob.

  • 178 Jail for Ashley // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:45 PM

    I appreciate your post but you cannot be lucky over 38 games to that extent, I agree the football was dire and I am no fan of Pardew what so ever but your missing my point, what I am saying is that your one sided stance against Pardew seems to have transferred over to being completely pro McLaren, it’s like there is no middle ground with you, as I said it is widely acknowledged that his tactics and selections were very poor yesterday but you blame the offside goal. Demba Ba scores a hatrick you say the Stoke defence was poor ?

  • 179 Rotonda heights // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:45 PM

    it’s funny no AP love from Ed today when CP are bottom of the form guide and dropping like a stone.

  • 180 Ian Toon // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:45 PM

    When you’ve got the time maybe you could give me a full name list.
    Or just forget it!

  • 181 Jib // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:46 PM

    If we go down
    I’ll show B and B’s arse in Fenwick’s window

  • 182 Jail for Ashley // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:47 PM


  • 183 Ian Toon // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:47 PM

    Did you watch the Palace game because they played really well. Individual brilliance cost them.

  • 184 Tsunki // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:49 PM

    On a slightly more footballing note though, it’s odd how events seem to keep aligning to their design of making sure we struggle like he’ll 🙂 other seemingly doomed dudes suddenly get a shot in the arm, we can take sparkling form into a disaster the very next match, and our calling card of hand season-saving wins to our fellow relegation danglers. Life’s not fair, is it? We sometimes get even fellow ‘supporters’ accusing us of being fickle, always a funny one that, considering we don’t even get the mercy of knowing, like Aston Villa of the unwashed, that we are definitely going. No. Not us. We get to agonise week in week out whether we are on the ladder or the snake. Yet that ground still folsom with expectant fans. Shame the hierarchy don’t appreciate that.

  • 185 Jail for Ashley // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:49 PM

    I would also like to see him fail spectacularly, firstly to shut up all those who ridicule us for wanting rid of him and secondly I don’t particularly like him !

  • 186 Ron Knee // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:49 PM

    Talking of missed chances – which we weren’t – how many have Arsenal missed?

  • 187 Jib // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:50 PM

    Loic Remy is playing like a novice , he’s making Riviere look good !

  • 188 BandB // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:50 PM


    Pardew may still think his job depends on keeping us off the bottom.
    Old habits and that.

  • 189 Jail for Ashley // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:50 PM

    I was listening to SSN and they reckon Spurs were murdering them, 70% possession at one stage !

  • 190 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:51 PM

    The honeymoon period is over for palace now they know what Pardew is really like.

    Speaking of palace, anyone think Dwight Gayle would be a good signing? think he’s got the pace to do well along side Mitro

  • 191 Tsunki // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:51 PM

    Ah Ian. Well you’re obviously a different poster.

  • 192 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:52 PM

    Can you please stop going on about Pardew please ladies??

  • 193 Jail for Ashley // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:52 PM

    Yes Ian,
    Palace must have been excellent, 36% possession overall, 3 to 11 shots on target and 3 to 10 corners, which bits of individual brilliance in amongst all that then ?

  • 194 Jib // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:53 PM

    The Gunners players look distraught 🙁
    It’s lush 😀

  • 195 lesh // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:53 PM

    Oh Blackeley, how can you be so cruel to Charnley and Ashley.

    To paraphrase Ed, Charnley’s giving and hss given his all. What more can we ask of him?

    Well, we could start with resignation!

  • 196 Ian Toon // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:54 PM

    Just fed remaining games into PL predictor. Relegated are Villa, Sunderland and Norwich. What a relieve!

  • 197 hibbitt // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:54 PM

    a simply question do we have any other club scouts or is it all carr i have asked one or two i know in the club and they either don’t know or wont say when we were watching the boro kid it was simpson at the games any ideas ???

  • 198 toonking // Jan 24, 2016 at 5:56 PM

    crap passing and long ball gaming might not be a thrilling to watch as a barcalona style game but if it can put you in with a shot of a title how annoyed will you be then?

    city drew yesterday and arsenal have just lost against chelsea meaning leicester city are currently sitting 1st 3 points ahead of 2nd and unlucky not to be 7 points ahead having missed those penalties against bournemouth and villa.

  • 199 lesh // Jan 24, 2016 at 6:01 PM


    Yes Moyes is four and dull but at least he’s visible.

    I believe that everything on this earth has a purpose, a function but what’s friend Charnley for?

  • 200 catchy in norway // Jan 24, 2016 at 6:02 PM


    i understand what you are saying, and i fully agree with your point, we have been so used to crap, we are happy for the little scraps we get, or at least some are, like i said yesterday, Shteve was my second choice, but only based on what i thought Ashley would go for, if i had my choice there are a few i would go for but Karanka would still be high on my list. we deserve much better


    ok, let me define it another way, that season we defended amazing, but in front of goal we were 3 worst for scoring goals only wigan and QPR scored less and wigan got relegated, and funny enough we had the 3rd highest amount of goals outside the box, , that season it was wonder goals are us, and thats why fans were happy, not the amount of goals, it was the shear quality of the goals, individual bits of skill, something P45 did not teach them.

  • 201 lesh // Jan 24, 2016 at 6:03 PM


    Moyes’s more than four. He’s dour as well though.

  • 202 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 24, 2016 at 6:04 PM

    The thing with King Percy is that, if Palace had been pants to date, he’d have said he hasn’t been there long enough to make a difference. He would need to get his own players and be given time to bed them in.

  • 203 toonking // Jan 24, 2016 at 6:05 PM

    JFA 185

    you say that but then go on at catchy and the way he reacts don’t you think that will only make catchy give mac even greater credit for his game and cause war to get even worse.

    palace did ok in his first bit of spell but they were lucky and now is being revealed he’s crap

    pardew has done what he’s currently doing at palace therefore mac has been left with an awful team which needs a long time to recover and mac is slowly but surely improving this team.

  • 204 Ian Toon // Jan 24, 2016 at 6:05 PM

    Lloris made three great saves. Alli scored a potential goal of any season with terrific control and technique. Spurs final goal was a breakaway by Chadli when the game was over as a contest. % possession is misleading because Palace play it long whereas Spurs are a passing entertaining side.

  • 205 optimistic prime // Jan 24, 2016 at 6:06 PM


    Did you listen to total sport with Harper the other night?

    He was asked if he was joining Sunderland, he said “no” then said “he had to keep confidences”

    30secs later it came up on SSN Harper had signed for Sunderland, even a pic of him in the strip.

    The timing was excellent, it was as though someone at the club or SSN had heard what Harper had said then issued the statement immediately. He was still talking/denying it whilst it was on SSN.

    Had a little chuckle, I was going to msg the show to tell him. Good luck to him, except the Derby.

  • 206 toon kk // Jan 24, 2016 at 6:07 PM

    I would definitely take Remy on loan until the end of the season but I’m not sure he’s still the player we loaned last time, he’s hardly had the same playing time, has he lost a little pace?

  • 207 angelswithdirtyfaces // Jan 24, 2016 at 6:08 PM


    If we go down it’s you who’ll look like a total dickheed

  • 208 JAMSHA // Jan 24, 2016 at 6:08 PM

    no news no players comen in only some stupid panic bids wich will be rejected…thats it for this window

  • 209 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 24, 2016 at 6:09 PM

    Wonder if the powers that be have a contingency plan if McLaren walks next week – could be on the cards if we do not sign anyone – seems pissed off with what we have got and what he wants.

  • 210 toonking // Jan 24, 2016 at 6:13 PM

    If we do go down how entertaining will we find the football then because in the championship I certainly expect lots of long balling then, I expect lots more victories which should make the style of play become less focused but we’ll certainly not have the style of players to give a barcalona style game and it’s much more physical in championship

  • 211 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 24, 2016 at 6:14 PM

    I think Angels may have a point@ 207.

  • 212 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 24, 2016 at 6:17 PM

    Although Carr has lost his scouting book, it’s not all bad news. In the search of his house and car, his helpers have found his latest prescription and have now got him on the correct meds.

  • 213 welshgeordie9 // Jan 24, 2016 at 6:17 PM

    Sky sports are saying that sissoko will consider his future in the summer, well that’s him gone then.

  • 214 Jib // Jan 24, 2016 at 6:19 PM

    So if we stay up how will you lot look.

    Exactly like you do now.

    I bunch of whinging know nowt lasses.

    B and B has the biggest cojones of the neggers on here 😀

  • 215 welshgeordie9 // Jan 24, 2016 at 6:19 PM

    Anyway Newcastle and swans will stay up, in welshie we trust, right guys.

  • 216 welshgeordie9 // Jan 24, 2016 at 6:20 PM


    Agree we will stay up, i don’t talk to negative moaners.

  • 217 optimistic prime // Jan 24, 2016 at 6:21 PM

    My problem with Mclaren is his crazy substitutes and set ups.

    We were abysmal the last time we played that formation and because he couldn’t name a LB he disrupts the whole side, BONKERS!

    He changes set up when we look like we’re starting to settle and play half decent football yet when we’re struggling he persists with same team/setup.

    He’s like the reigeme, doesn’t learn from his mistakes. Gini back on the left blah blah blah.

    I do actual think we play much better than we did last year sort of.

    Steeves mind boggling IMO and I can’t say that I have real confidence in him.
    No fans ever going to agree with all their managers decision I just can’t fathom most of his.

    Steeve in/out shake it all about.

  • 218 hibbitt // Jan 24, 2016 at 6:22 PM

    dont be daft charlie this lot have contingency plan they haven’t got a plan never mind a contingency ……we all know they wont sack him but he could walk if the crowd start to get on his back……he’s still got time while the windows open but if no one comes in and results dont improve the crowd will turn very quickly and he will be the one they turn on

  • 219 toon kk // Jan 24, 2016 at 6:22 PM

    Mash may cut his losses and take a chance now, we’re probably past the escape relegation zone. A good run might save us but chances are we’ll go down, maybe it’s for the best. We need to start over.

  • 220 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 24, 2016 at 6:23 PM

    We were terrific yesterday. Makro’s going nowhere. Well okay. He is going somewhere. The surgery first thing in the morning to have his meds tweaked.

  • 221 Ian Toon // Jan 24, 2016 at 6:25 PM

    Jib – I am an optimist by nature but would be severely concerned if we don’t bring in some experienced goal power . Also defence continues to be a concern. We’ve needed a CB and LB for seasons. Didn’t realise Carr was nearly 80!. A revamp is required and a rethink on recruiting 26+ players. Macca has to take on Charnley and Carr.

  • 222 JamesToon // Jan 24, 2016 at 6:27 PM


    Can’t disagree with that post mate, why oh why does he change a winning formula because of Colback and Dummett

  • 223 JackButler // Jan 24, 2016 at 6:28 PM

    Nice to see the always classy Sissoko talking about the exit door………….again.

  • 224 toonking // Jan 24, 2016 at 6:28 PM


    sacking him back in december might have encouraged moyse but mac deciding to walk out in anger is the very very final chance cashley had of building us because everyone will see just how big a lier he is having witnessed another walk out less than a year since he tried to insist he’s changing, even puppets might be hard and he could need kermin the frog as his next puppet.

  • 225 Ian Toon // Jan 24, 2016 at 6:33 PM

    James- Jack Colback is grossly underrated. Last season he scored 4 goals but this he’s had to nurse powder puff Anita. Really missed when he’s not playing. Shelvey needs to have a freer role as well which he can when Colback’s playing.

  • 226 Jail for Ashley // Jan 24, 2016 at 6:34 PM

    Will we look like dickheeds if we stay up by the skin of our teeth again while you blindly support the fools that are running the show.

  • 227 Jail for Ashley // Jan 24, 2016 at 6:36 PM

    toonking and catchy,
    You both are totally missing my point over Catchys stance on our present and former manager. His opinion on the former mirrors exactly his opinion on the present but in completely different ways.

  • 228 JackButler // Jan 24, 2016 at 6:37 PM

    How anyone can openly say that Coldback is underrated is way beyond me..

    He is nothing more than a poor mans Robbie Savage, runs all day long without getting a single thing done

  • 229 optimistic prime // Jan 24, 2016 at 6:37 PM

    I’m not fussed if Steeve stays or goes.
    I’ve made a point of not listening to his interviews for a while as I was going a bit mad. Over the last half a dozen games I’d been quite happy with our set up and application in games.

    Then yesterday he shot himself in the foot with his formation, we’re in a bad enough position without fixing something that isn’t broken. Someone pointed out a week ago he’s maybe ignoring certain players or not setting up in a certain way to try and provo the squad isn’t upto it.
    I hope that isn’t the case as if it is Steeve is gambling with our future as much as Ashley and only a fool doubles down with our current hand.

    It’s Ashley out for me, anything else is like a band aid on a severed head.

  • 230 Mister Tuff // Jan 24, 2016 at 6:37 PM

    Ian Toon – stop your blog mischief and this bully crap you are coming out with.
    Your machiavellian mischief and blog trickery knows no bounds.

  • 231 dannitoon // Jan 24, 2016 at 6:37 PM

    Matip has already signeda pre contract on a free for Liverpool that’s why

  • 232 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 24, 2016 at 6:39 PM

    Makro missed the opposition scoring because he’s too superstitious to come out for the start of the second half. He thought we were terrific yesterday after earning a valuable point.

  • 233 Jail for Ashley // Jan 24, 2016 at 6:39 PM

    His contract will be so full of holes he’s not going anywhere. If he had any integrity he would have walked from Derby last year at the end rather than get his pay out after the way he went on. He must be absolutely minted due to all his former sackings.

  • 234 JamesToon // Jan 24, 2016 at 6:43 PM

    Ian yeah but we shouldn’t change the system just cos of him being injured

  • 235 Toon Tang // Jan 24, 2016 at 6:43 PM

    So the league that no one wants to win rolls on. A team like Leicester are never going to get such a perfect opportunity for a long time at least. They should grab it whilst it’s hot

  • 236 Ian Toon // Jan 24, 2016 at 6:44 PM

    Mr Tuff- The Blog Bully.
    A growing number think you protest too much.

  • 237 Belfast // Jan 24, 2016 at 6:46 PM

    Cooled out interest in Townsend after Chinise club cooled their interest in Tiote. Hmmmmmmmm…..

  • 238 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 24, 2016 at 6:49 PM

    I see your thinking belfast

  • 239 nearly // Jan 24, 2016 at 6:51 PM

    not convinced the interest in townsend has cooled off hmmm i wonder

  • 240 optimistic prime // Jan 24, 2016 at 6:51 PM

    I thought Tiote deal was back on

  • 241 Ian Toon // Jan 24, 2016 at 6:52 PM

    Belfast – Hope everything is grand in your world.
    Saw your post on Macca being a better choice than you had anticipated. Or am I misquoting you yet again?

  • 242 toonking // Jan 24, 2016 at 6:54 PM


    I think you missing my point in a way. What i’m saying is even a relegation with palace will not stop this argueing and posting over pardew. If he were to remain at palace people will still continue talking because now they’ll start putting posts up about his championship form and if he were to get the sack you’ll see people raving on about him no longer being in a job or being manager of a lower league club and mentioning how bad they might be.

    It’s hard to think how people will stop raving on about pardew because palace could get CL and you’d have munster and mag52raving on about him and you can see palace relegated and you’ll have RH and catchy continuing to rave on about how crap he’s been and what his future will be.

  • 243 JackButler // Jan 24, 2016 at 6:55 PM

    I hope our interest in Townsend has died down as we need a striker before we look to add another over hyped English man. Townsend doesn’t score and its goals we need cause the lack of them is the thing that’s going to see us go down

  • 244 GeordieTwo // Jan 24, 2016 at 6:56 PM

    Just saw the game. We showed some fight for part of it. Their first goal was clearly offside. Still, not enough from us. Shelvey’s passing was off and we don’t have that cutting edge up front. We can’t head the ball to save our lives. This looks ominous. Five wins from 23. Wake up Ashley.

  • 245 Ian Toon // Jan 24, 2016 at 6:58 PM

    Townsend wouldn’t come cheaply. Probably command a higher wage than Tiote. We could always come to an arrangement to pay off a number of players’ contract early but at a discount. Would meet FFP requirements but cash flow is king with Ashley!

  • 246 JAMSHA // Jan 24, 2016 at 6:59 PM

    dont understand why people blame Carr…his job is to scout an hand out the list of players….but its Lee who want players cheap an not stars

  • 247 Rotonda heights // Jan 24, 2016 at 7:01 PM


    I just can’t understand it myself. 3rd bottom you’d think we peasants would be dancing in the streets. And this isn’t a new phenomen either as we’ve been royally treated over the last 8 years.

  • 248 check the toastie // Jan 24, 2016 at 7:02 PM

    has a lot to answer for Graham Carr like, has signed some crap on very long contracts.

    Saivet stinks of the next one on his production line of mediocrity. French league can get gems but some rogue ones over the years have arrived for sure.

  • 249 Rotonda heights // Jan 24, 2016 at 7:03 PM


    yeah cos the scouting guy at leicester has spent so much on Mahrez, vardy, Kante, Fuchs etc

  • 250 JackButler // Jan 24, 2016 at 7:03 PM


    Because so many of the players Carr has put in the list are simply no where near good enough – he may not make the final decision, as that is always based around the financial restraints imposed by Ashley, but he is the man that puts the players forward to be chosen.

  • 251 Jib // Jan 24, 2016 at 7:03 PM

    I’m watching Depor v Valencia.
    That Aymen Abdennour , Central Defender , that Valencia pipped us for from Monaco in the Summer looks OK.

  • 252 Belfast // Jan 24, 2016 at 7:04 PM

    Well if like me you where expecting Mick Harford or a Mark Robins or some other head in hands appointment you’d have been slightly relieved when McClaren turned up.

    Could have been much worse, could have been much better. That was my opinion at the time.

  • 253 Belfast // Jan 24, 2016 at 7:06 PM

    Opposing conspiracy theory nearly

  • 254 GeordieTwo // Jan 24, 2016 at 7:08 PM

    I don’t see many of our players showing enough concern and fight. We are hopeless away from home. Six goals scored. The structure of the club is all wrong. I don’t see us recovering from this so it’s relegation at the end of the season. Then many of the best players will leave. Poor effort from the top down. Sack yourself Ashley.

  • 255 GeordieTwo // Jan 24, 2016 at 7:09 PM

    And by that I mean sell up and may we never see your face on Tyneside again.

  • 256 Rotonda heights // Jan 24, 2016 at 7:11 PM

    lesh at 199

    if there’s four of him I’m sure he is visible

  • 257 GeordieTwo // Jan 24, 2016 at 7:11 PM

    We had three of four opportunities for headed shots that should have been on net but weren’t. Made it easy for their goalie for most of the game. We don’t take our chances well enough. That screams out striker needed for me.

  • 258 Belfast // Jan 24, 2016 at 7:11 PM

    I think nearly everytime Saviet won a tackle yesterday he gave it away straight after it lol

    Seen somebody post he had a 55% pass completion rate. Wasn’t surprised at that.

  • 259 nearly // Jan 24, 2016 at 7:17 PM

    belfast im not sure what to make of it ,i think they will go for townsend and try and get thauvin out on loan or do they take a hit on him now or the summer either way we are going to loose money on him

  • 260 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 24, 2016 at 7:19 PM

    Graham Carr
    Got a funny feeling McLaren wants Townsend and Berahino whatever the price but I think Graham Carr is behind the stalling of the deals because it will push his nose out of joint.
    Any-way anyone know who does the scouting in this country ?????

  • 261 beefman13 // Jan 24, 2016 at 7:21 PM

    Mclaren says we are playing terrific stuff, that’s his inflated opinion even though we are having our moments, trouble is if we can’t win playing well then it can’t be anything else but a real battle for survival.

    That said I don’t think we are as awesome as Shteve thinks we are, there is plenty of self pity going on there for me.

    Any and every team know that Curly top has limited pace and they always seem to play off that, that is a major problem that should gave been sorted and gas not, it’s a real weakness in our team, in fact at one stage he almost gave up yesterday. Charnley this should have been first priority, ee are and will continue to get punished for this lack of foresight, we are getting what we deserve simple as.

  • 262 catchy in norway // Jan 24, 2016 at 7:24 PM


    i dont understand what you mean, my stance is the same is the same but different?
    my stance is the same regardless, and if you cannot grasp it, then thats your problem not mine.
    but i will try one last time.

    its all about the football, the football and the philosophy. under P45 we had no system style philosophy, it was more about individual bits of skill, things he did not and cannot teach, he defends a nil-nil because he has a point, but he never tries to actually go out and win a game, home or away it was the same, poor football but with amazing goals when we scored. he also sapped the life out of the players, turning them into robots that had no minds of there own

    now then there is Shteve, who is installing a sense of lets get the ball down and play it, we pass and move, we create chances from open play but just dont finish them off, for me the football is good to watch, regardless of who is playing, he gives the players a freedom to try and express themselves but also within a team structure, people slated HBA for being greedy, yet nearly every one of our goals scored were individual efforts under p45, Shteve has it the other way, some great team goals, but as OP pointed out, im baffled by his Subs and when they take place, the formation yesterday did not suit the players we have and thats why we lost the game, he should have played Chancle at LB and kept the rest of the team as they normally play, rolando had to much to do and was lost, but i do see him as our LW player..

    my praise for Shteve is purely based on what i have seen this season, good football, and yes there have been some poor games too, but i would say more than half of them have been of a very good std where we have been unlucky not to win, we batted Sunderland, the ref spoiled it, as did he spoiled it vs man u,

    P45 was never unlucky, because he never went for the win, he shut up shop way to soon.

  • 263 expatmag // Jan 24, 2016 at 9:47 PM

    Yeah TUFF

    Stop bullying poor bloggers, you bad big bugger, you………

  • 264 dannitoon // Jan 25, 2016 at 4:53 AM

    The problem is.. 95% of toon fans think a good player cost £15m+.. look at the agro when we baught perez… £1.2m = lack of ambition… FFS imagine the tears if we spent £400k on mahrez….

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