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What’s Newcastle’s Plan In Case Rob Elliot Is Injured?

3:02 pm, Wednesday, January 27th, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 155 Comments

We keep wondering what Newcastle´s plan is in case the impressive Rob Elliot is injured?

Ir seems a reasonable question – if we don´t bring in cover at goalkeeper does that mean we will rely on the untested Karl Darlow and Freddie Woodman?

rob elliot saves again bournemouth

Rob Elliot – he’s been great for us this season
What happens if he gets injured?

We had thought at one time  we could have signed Steve Harper to a six month deal if Rob became injured, but that’s no longer possible after he signed on at Sunderland last week.

Newcastle must have a plan for what to do if Rob is injured and not (pretend to) be surprised and curse our bad luck if that happens – the powers that be have had plenty of warning.

It’s called planning for things that may happen – which Newcastle are not very good at.

And you don’t plan things assuming everything will be OK, as Newcastle often seem to do and that get into deep trouble.

You plan for certain events possibly happening so you can react (and know what to do) when and if they do happen.

If there’s one thing that could really hurt us in our run-in it’s having Rob injured and we all know he still had that dodgy thigh.

He’s been a standout for us so far this season since Tim Krul was injured playing for the Netherlands last October.

So you would expect Newcastle to have a plan in case he does get injured.

And since we don´t seem to be wanting to strengthen our defense in this window – we have the third worst defense in the Premier League –  then we have to assume those running the club think our defense is good enough for the all important run-in.

There are five days left in the window so still time for new arrivals.

Comments welcome.

Tags: Freddie Woodman · Injuries · Karl Darlow · Newcastle News · Rob Elliot · Tim Krul

155 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Toon_Tom // Jan 27, 2016 at 3:04 PM

    Queue interest in a Goal Keeper next story……

    If we throw money at a GK or another midfielder prior to getting in a CB,LB and CF i’m done!

  • 2 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 27, 2016 at 3:05 PM

    What must happen on goalkeeping front is not include Krul in 25 registrations up to end of season as he won’t be fit. Bring in emergency loan cover recognised quality e.g Rob Green

  • 3 SuperShearer // Jan 27, 2016 at 3:06 PM

    This is getting stupid. We have at least four goal keepers on our books. Krul, Elliot, Darlow, Woodman. We don’t need more. We NEED to address our staggering injury problems that have haunted us for as long as I can remember.

    On another note Cahill says he wants to leave Chelski. His wges will be big but he’s one the best CBs in the league. Worth a cheeky loan move to get him ready for Euros? YES PLEASE.

  • 4 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 27, 2016 at 3:07 PM

    Toon_Tom Sorry mate but despite all the spending it’s all going to end in tears. They are just not interested in strengthening those positions .

  • 5 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 27, 2016 at 3:09 PM

    SS go for that. Take him & Remy off Chelski’s wage bill that frees up some cash for their Pato or whoever striker chase.

  • 6 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 27, 2016 at 3:09 PM

    Darlow has played nigh on 100 games in the Championship. Untested? Who is realistically going to join and be third/fourth choice in less than 6 months? Alnwick had never played a match in the top 4 flights when he started for us, totally different situation.

    I hope they don’t waste their time on looking for a keeper, what sort of message does that send to Darlow in the first place? How will he get Prem experience if we keep bringing someone in to replace him every time he is in line to get a chance.

  • 7 Toon_Tom // Jan 27, 2016 at 3:10 PM

    WLG – i have to agree, sadly…

    with Saylor coming back to fitness who needs a new CB, right 😉

  • 8 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 27, 2016 at 3:12 PM

    ED can your next post please be : What’s Newcastle’s Plan In Case Dummett & Janmaat are Injured/Suspended?
    Is it Plan Z???

  • 9 optimistic prime // Jan 27, 2016 at 3:12 PM

    West lancs

    In a nutshell yes, Gomis is rubish, he makes Shola look prolific. Remy isn’t the player we had 2years ago, he’s unfit and has bedn a rarely used sub over the last 2 years.

    Both sort of proven but IMO not what we need ATM.

    I’d rather a young hungry ambitious untested player over a journeyman any day of the week, twice on sat and three times in a Sunday.

    If the player has enough quality premier league expirience isn’t vital.

  • 10 MadisonToon // Jan 27, 2016 at 3:14 PM

    Ed, I’m afraid this one is pretty far off the mark. We have two promising youngsters, as LG said, one who has extensive experience in the Championship. It would not be prudent to have more than that considering our first choice got a season-ending injury and our backup (Elliot) is playing very well. IF it happens that he gets injured, then it’ll be exciting to see which of the two high potential youngsters gets called up and how they play.

    Where’s a story that asks about priorities for signings? A poll for what should Newcastle’s final signing of the window be would be interesting to see if fans want a CF, LB or CB as our top priority. Just my two cents.

  • 11 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 27, 2016 at 3:17 PM

    Toon_Tom Saylor will be back in the Treatment Room well before Easter you watch. I used to like Steven Taylor . In season’s past went to more away games than Home at Wigan,Bolton Blackburn, Burnley Blackpool etc & he was always first to lead the team over to us at the end Win Draw or Lose but sadly always injured now & needs offloading.
    This constant injury crisis is a real worry that they don’t seem to be able to address

  • 12 Rotonda heights // Jan 27, 2016 at 3:17 PM

    it must be very embarrassing for charnley if ash has to get involved

    I wonder whether instead of buying another striker we will alternate between mitro and perez.
    perez is obviously going to have to make way for Townsend and if we have pace coming from sissoko and townsend does Mitro have the pace to keep up and fitness to get himself in the box

  • 13 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 27, 2016 at 3:22 PM

    OP We need somone who can hit the ground running . Personally I wouldn’t say no to Peter Crouch. At least if he got the service that Mitro has had recently he would have been deadly in six yard box. We just need a predator. All the points the Mackems are picking up seem to down to Defoe oh and that fullback we rejected Van Aanolt

  • 14 MadisonToon // Jan 27, 2016 at 3:22 PM


    I think that transitions Mitro’s job into receiving the ball and playing them in behind rather than being ahead of them to finish off a move they create. He will then be a late box arrival for them to cut back to with Gini likely to be well past him by then. I look forward to seeing how it all works together.

    Mitro’s hold up play is excellent although I wish his attitude when he doesn’t get a call or loses the ball wasn’t so pathetic. That side of professional footballers needs to be stamped out of the game, it’s a pet peeve of mine and just has no place. Why should grown men act like small children when they don’t get a foul or when they lose the ball? Get back and get stuck in, quit crying to the ref or the fans with your hands in the air. /rant off

  • 15 manxpie // Jan 27, 2016 at 3:22 PM

    Op he’s scored more than mitro this season tho lol
    we need a striker with pace who runs in behind ala vardy how many has he scoredthis season with basic punts over the top?

  • 16 firebug666 // Jan 27, 2016 at 3:23 PM


    Charnley will have been standing around wringing his hands over the transfers, someone had to step in and that was always Ashley, the man who said he was having no involvement in the running and that everything would be up to the board. Err that’s as long as they do what he says!

  • 17 optimistic prime // Jan 27, 2016 at 3:24 PM


    Great shout and I’d love Cahill here but I think he’s out of our reach.

  • 18 firebug666 // Jan 27, 2016 at 3:26 PM

    So will this Townsend deal be good value pound for pound, you know like Cabella, and Thauvin?

  • 19 lesh // Jan 27, 2016 at 3:30 PM

    C’mon Ed, there’s no problem.
    It’s all in hand, Charnley’s got all bases covered.

    He’ll be on the case knowing we’ve still got a few days to get Harps in for six months.

  • 20 Toon_Tom // Jan 27, 2016 at 3:31 PM

    id see if J.Hernandez (little chickpea) is available – he knows where the goal is!

  • 21 Toon_Tom // Jan 27, 2016 at 3:32 PM

    lesh – Harper is a mackem!!!

  • 22 optimistic prime // Jan 27, 2016 at 3:34 PM


    I don’t disagree with the type of player we need I just don’t think those 2 fit the bill. With the adition of Townsend the play will be more balanced, with more of a attacking threat it should give Mitro a bit more room and space.

    Tbh I think once Mitro buries a chance or 2 he’ll start banging them in for fun, IMO we need a player to compliment him not replace him.

    I’ve watched Lacazzete a bit since we were linked to him and what I like most is his ball retention and ability to beat people and bring others into the game.
    Out of all we’ve been linked with I think he suits our needs the best.

    At the same time who do we drop to accommodate the new striker?
    As I’ve said it wouldn’t be Mitro, the difference his hold up play had brought to our side shouldn’t be underestimated.

  • 23 The Newcastle Armchair // Jan 27, 2016 at 3:34 PM

    Firebug I’ll tell you right now that Townsend is the best winger we’ve had at the club in a long time

  • 24 RolandoOverhead // Jan 27, 2016 at 3:34 PM

    A Remy and Cahill double signing from Chelski would be fantastic. Anyone think there”s any chance?

  • 25 The Newcastle Armchair // Jan 27, 2016 at 3:35 PM

    No chance on Cahill too much wages

  • 26 Toon_Tom // Jan 27, 2016 at 3:36 PM

    OP – if we were to bring in Lacazette, to play alongside Mitro then Gini would have to give up his new free roamin no10 role and sit a bit deeper, with shelvey sitting even more deeper effectively converting back to a 4-4-2 with Sissoko, Shelvey, Gini, Townsend in the MF with Lacazette and Mitro up top

  • 27 jimiley // Jan 27, 2016 at 3:38 PM

    A lot of panic buys it seems to me. Players costing a lot who are in fact squad players for Swansea and Spurs. Even Lacazette has flopped this year and we were prepared to break the club record to get him. Remind anybody of the Thauvin situation? Still we deserve all we get. At least we have the A team to back the whole mess up. A top manager, a top scout, a top Director of football and at the top of the pile a fantastic owner. What can possibly go wrong??????

  • 28 manxpie // Jan 27, 2016 at 3:41 PM

    Op oh i weren’t saying i wanted him just found it funny
    mitro will come good but just shows how much this club gambles banking on a 21 y/o to score the goals to compete in this league is bonkers let alone to keep us in the league

  • 29 firebug666 // Jan 27, 2016 at 3:45 PM

    The Newcastle Armchair

    In your opinion mate, but the question was does he represent good value pound for pound? guess we shall have to wait and see.

  • 30 JDdubai // Jan 27, 2016 at 3:45 PM

    6-0 for the friendly apparently….

  • 31 firebug666 // Jan 27, 2016 at 3:46 PM

    Andros Townsend has completed a medical at Newcastle ahead of his £12m move from Tottenham, Sky sources understand.

  • 32 kakaobi // Jan 27, 2016 at 3:46 PM

    Beaten 6-0 ffs doesn’t really sound good

  • 33 manxpie // Jan 27, 2016 at 3:46 PM

    Seen before we actually have the 2 most expensive signings in the whole of Europe! !
    If we don’t stay up there will be huge records broken at least

  • 34 reilly // Jan 27, 2016 at 3:46 PM

    beat 6 nil off the scum.

  • 35 firebug666 // Jan 27, 2016 at 3:47 PM

    David Coverdale ?@dpcoverdale 23m23 minutes ago
    Duncan Watmore scores hat-trick as #safc thrash #nufc in derby ‘friendly’ –

  • 36 firebug666 // Jan 27, 2016 at 3:53 PM

    So anyway, at least the fitness and moral of the team should be better after the behind closed doors affair……..Oh wait!

  • 37 MadisonToon // Jan 27, 2016 at 3:53 PM


    Pound for pound is an interesting question. It assumes we are willing to spend some total amount, but I think we might instead want to look at it as the club is only interested in purchasing a single player for each position – i.e. we would spend more on Townsend than Phillips, although we would only buy one in either case. This makes you wonder is the cost more important or is the direct comparison of the players more important? I think we’re probably more likely to end up in the one player purchased/position side and so I don’t care too much about their price and care more about the quality we get.

    I think Townsend will certainly be better than Thauvin as I would imagine most everyone on here would expect that too. He may be a little less consistent tactically (e.g. shoots too much, difficult to get onboard with team-wide tactics) but he will certainly be faster and more suited for the Prem. I also think the fact that he is English is a rather nice bonus since it means we can get rid of some of our squad players that only exist for us to maintain the HG quota. I don’t see any situation where Thauvin is clearly more useful.

    Anyway, I wonder what you think about pound for pound and if there is a better way to assess our incomings.

  • 38 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 27, 2016 at 3:54 PM

    who knows what players were put in for both teams?

  • 39 beermonkey // Jan 27, 2016 at 3:54 PM

    any1 know who played in the derby

  • 40 MadisonToon // Jan 27, 2016 at 3:58 PM

    All I can see is that Steven Taylor, Yoan Gouffran, Jamaal Lascelles, Sylvain Marveaux and Karl Darlow played. Seems Marv may have come off injured.

    Wonder how impressed Townsend is with that?

  • 41 toon kk // Jan 27, 2016 at 4:00 PM

    What did MA say? he was supplying the funds and it was down to Carr and Charnless to get the best players in for the money.
    Well tbh if I was in MA shoes I wouldn’t be over joyed, has the money been wisely spent? I’m not so sure . Gini definitely, was the rest the best we could get for the money?

  • 42 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 27, 2016 at 4:01 PM

    so fringe players then, no wonder

  • 43 firebug666 // Jan 27, 2016 at 4:07 PM


    Thank you for a great answer mate.

    The club, or rather Ashley stated in his infamous interview the we would only pursue players who offered good value pound for pound.

    Wijnalbum and Mbemba to me both offer that value, while Thauvin has been a big let down, Mitrovic is showing good signs and will progress in my opinion.

    But when we come to Townsend, yes he is fast, but can he produce the end product, £12m and £40,000 + a week is a lot to splash out on a player who has hardly featured for Spurs in the last couple of years.

    He has not really set the premiership alight, and although he has his moments (and the law of averages says he must at some point) he wastes the ball a lot of the time when better options are available.

    The club say they will be frugal and continue to seek out the best players who offer the best value pound for pound.

    I know Townsend has to give it a go with us, and I will (like I have with all our signings) get behind him and hope he comes good for us, but only time will tell if he is worth the money.

  • 44 Transfer Sage // Jan 27, 2016 at 4:10 PM

    Total non story…have two good keepers in Krul and Elliot.

    We then have Darlow and Woodman, Darlow with a lot of championship experience.

    What club has more than 3 reasonable keepers and a good youngster.

    What’s more important is that we have only 1 right back, only 3 centre backs (one of which is constantly injured). That’s a bigger problem.

    We have few options up front too, another bigger issue.

  • 45 firebug666 // Jan 27, 2016 at 4:10 PM

    Newcastle United have completed the signing of Andros Townsend from Tottenham for £12million.

    The 24-year-old England winger completed his medical with the Magpies on Wednesday and has penned a five-year deal at St James’ Park.

    More to follow…


  • 46 catchy in norway // Jan 27, 2016 at 4:10 PM

  • 47 firebug666 // Jan 27, 2016 at 4:15 PM

    Mind that’s only from Talksport, nothing else to confirm it yet.

  • 48 Transfer Sage // Jan 27, 2016 at 4:16 PM

    Happy with Townsend. Play him on the left and make him focus on crossing not shooting.

    Also his pace will help mitro, defenders will drop off a bit letting mitro be closer to goal and more effective.

    His record isn’t fantastic and people compare it to obertans but if you have seen the lad play it’s clear he is much better and more of a threat.

    The value doesn’t worry me…means nothing these days. Has little to do with quality of player, more based on desperation of buying/selling team, surplus to requirements, contract length, age, which club/league he comes from, reputation (high profile or not).

    Football finances are ridiculous so not remotely concerned if we buy players for £20 or £20 million as long as they are good.

  • 49 lesh // Jan 27, 2016 at 4:16 PM


    Harps ain’t a mackem – he’s from Easington which certainly not Blunderland.

    And yes, he has signed for them I know but does Charnley who seems happy when his head’s in the sand.

    Missing out on Harper was something he shouldn’t have overlooked but that’s the way Charnley is – clueless, spineless and he should be sacked to be replaced by an MD who has some vision and credibility to drive Newcastle United forward rather than being stuck in the seeming quicksand of mediocrity.

  • 50 firebug666 // Jan 27, 2016 at 4:17 PM

    So this is some of the team that got mauled of the Makems.

    Lee Ryder ?@lee_ryder 22s22 seconds ago
    #nufc team that lost 6-0 to Sunderland featured Darlow, Marveaux, Aarons, Riviere, Gouffran, Taylor and Lascelles.

  • 51 MadisonToon // Jan 27, 2016 at 4:20 PM


    Thanks for the reply. Certainly finances come into the picture and I don’t mean to minimize that, but we are run with minimal players and I think sometimes it might be better to look at it from the ‘quality over cost’ mindset.

    Another thing I think we have to consider is that the club is always going to put out in official statements that it is doing things as frugally and sensibly as possible. If they said they were going to go for the best players regardless of the price, any other chairmen who heard that would hold us to ransom for any player we are interested in. To me, that statement is meaningless (we are looking for the best pound-for-pound players) as there are no alternative ways for them to say they are looking for players.

    On to the topic of Townsend, I really want him to come good with us, but he’s got a lot of convincing to do. His enthusiasm in joining us seems real and it’s a good step in the right direction, but we’ll see how he performs and where his head is at when the going gets tough. His suspected attitude problems along with similar murmurings about Shelvey worry me a little as we could be bringing in more trouble than we realize. Hopefully it’s mitigated by their interactions with the leaders in the squad – there are many players who were captains at their previous clubs and should be able to help settle their potential hotheadedness. Time will tell, HWTL.

  • 52 carl // Jan 27, 2016 at 4:22 PM

    Townsend mentioned the possibility of playing cf at times. This followed a discussion with McClaren. His pace would be an asset at times throgh the middle either with or without Mitro. His presence gives flexibility depending on the state of the game. West Brom could hold out until final day to push price up. Recall Obertan scoring through middle against Blackburn.
    I hope we’re into more imaginative thinking and I agreed with comments of power of persuasion. KK / Rob Lee. We’re still going to sign a ST.

  • 53 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 27, 2016 at 4:22 PM


    most of them fringe players who should no longer be at this club!!!

  • 54 geordie157 // Jan 27, 2016 at 4:22 PM

    Darlow will be fine given a run of games.

    Striker is a must plus ideally a full back. I liked the de Sciglio link last night, he’d be perfect for us. To be honest Chris Gunter would offer good cover and he’s out of contract this summer.

    So Remy and either of those and I’m happy with this window.

  • 55 toon kk // Jan 27, 2016 at 4:28 PM

    I wouldn’t be at all surprised if we go for Gomis from Swansea. IF we do go for a striker.

  • 56 jimiley // Jan 27, 2016 at 4:29 PM

    We need a top striker to stay up. Mitrovic is a dud. 13 million for a striker who cannot run and cannot jump and cannot shoot. Otherwise he is not bad. An all round dud. As bad as Thauvin. Carr has excelled himself.

  • 57 jimiley // Jan 27, 2016 at 4:31 PM

    We have needed a striker and centre back for years. A full back would be helpful. The whole of the north east knows that. What do we do? We only seem to buy wingers and midfielders. Carr is not only stupid but blind.

  • 58 firebug666 // Jan 27, 2016 at 4:32 PM


    I not to concerned with costs either, just wondered if people thought we are getting the value etc etc.

    I’m not expecting Townsend to hit the ground running, and expect it will taking him a little time to build up his match fitness, (I hope we have that time).

    But he is defiantly going to have to play for the team, we have enough players who shoot for row Z as it is.

    Hopefully he will get his act together now and maybe, just maybe Mitrovic will get plenty of chances to get on the score sheet.

    I don’t know about his attitude problem except from what was in the press, but arguments will occur no doubt, but as long as he keeps his hands in his pockets I don’t see him punching our staff out.

    I do agree though, we have taken on two players who had falling outs with their previous clubs, so in keeping them sweet an on the level Macca may have his work cut out.

  • 59 Mister Tuff // Jan 27, 2016 at 4:36 PM

    I hope Ryders tale is another load of tosh. The lad Gomis is not a very good player -works hard, decent jump and that is about it. Ball control is probably worse than Cisses’ – in other words not of standard.

  • 60 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 27, 2016 at 4:36 PM

    Firebug 43 Agree entirely.
    The main issue is the squad players are just not up to it. If those seven were in the team beaten 6-0 by the Mackems then we must get rid although we’ve known this for some time. But who will have them now AND Marvaux injured again? Just give him away to reduce the payroll. It’s priorities I have a problem with. How can you pay the money we have for Townsend and never seem to even consider strengthening at the back where we are running on empty.Just watch wot happens two weeks into February there will be injuries/suspensions to key defenders with nobody to fall back on.Smatch Debuchy on loan from under the Mackems radar if nothing else.

  • 61 firebug666 // Jan 27, 2016 at 4:36 PM


    Yeah we probably played just fringe players to build up their fitness levels, still 6-0 will not help the moral of a team fighting for survival.

    I do think this was a bad idea from the start.

  • 62 Mister Tuff // Jan 27, 2016 at 4:38 PM

    If I was the Swansea chairman I’d be trying to sell Gomis at a reduced price to any PL relegation candidates – and use the money to get somebody better.

  • 63 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 27, 2016 at 4:39 PM

    I agree with that firebug

  • 64 hibbitt // Jan 27, 2016 at 4:39 PM

    Mister Tuff
    his nick name at swansea tells us a lot about him GoMiss

  • 65 GeordieTwo // Jan 27, 2016 at 4:39 PM

    Why the closed door friendly derby with Sunderland at this time of year? Do we not already have enough injuries? And we lost 6-0 with Duncan Watmore getting a hat trick, Fletcher with 2 and Rodmore the other. Well, that does look promising doesn’t it?

  • 66 Essex Geordie Bill // Jan 27, 2016 at 4:40 PM

    Is Townsends seeming demotion at spurs down to him balking at getting less money than his colleague’s and getting a bit bolshie because of this.

    Nowt necessarily to do with loss of form.

    I am expecting him to hit the ground running (what exactly does that mean) for the rest of this season at least. Next season who knows!!

    I would put both Perez and Mitrovic in the young hungry bracket, more so than Remy or Gomiss might be from what others on the blog have said about them.

  • 67 JamesToon // Jan 27, 2016 at 4:40 PM

    wtf why the hell did we arrange this ‘friendly’ 6-0 loss to them, what a morale booster that is, do we want to give them any more ammo for the next derby ffs

  • 68 GeordieTwo // Jan 27, 2016 at 4:41 PM

    Gomis has 12 goals in 52 appearances with Swansea. That’s not great for a striker. Less than 1 in every 4 games. And 30 years old. No thanks, would rather have Remy on loan for the rest of the season.

  • 69 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 27, 2016 at 4:42 PM

    hopefully that stupid result will help convince we need defenders and a striker

  • 70 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 27, 2016 at 4:42 PM

    We always seem to be planning for the future with the players we bring in but tomorrow never seems to come. What we need at present is a striker who will give us a quick fix and keep us up. Sign Peter Crouch for 4 months or take him on loan. He may be towards the end of his career but he still knows where the net is and is great in the 6 yd box. We can only look to the future, once we have secured our future.

  • 71 Essex Geordie Bill // Jan 27, 2016 at 4:43 PM


    So that game has been played and that’s the result, bloody ell, that should do wonders for the morale of our lads.

    Any Injuries reported and are there any lowlights.

  • 72 Mister Tuff // Jan 27, 2016 at 4:43 PM

    A 6 -0 spanking by the Mackems suggests to me that we did not have much of the ball – so I really question why?
    How much could be learnt from such an outing.
    Mackems will be cock a hoop -good confidence booster for their next game.

  • 73 MadisonToon // Jan 27, 2016 at 4:43 PM

    Does behind-closed-doors mean that scouts couldn’t attend? What if it was designed to show off some of our squad players to potential scouts so we could get them out of the door before the window shuts? They certainly didn’t do themselves any favors if that was the goal since it’s hard to come out of a 6-nil battering looking even the slightest bit impressive. Probably not what the intentions were anyway, but thought that could have made sense for the club to try and put some players in the ‘shop window’ without wasting actual PL minutes on them.

  • 74 optimistic prime // Jan 27, 2016 at 4:44 PM

    I think 6-0 was the best result for us!

    We played fringe players, most who aren’t wanted anymore. If we’d won this game comfortabley we’d have gone into the Derby thinking we could stroll it.

    It’s given a little bit of fitness to the players we want, showcased a few we don’t and no major injury concerns.

    We may have lost but I’m happy with the outcome, I’d rather take a beating today and hand one out later than vice versa!

  • 75 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 27, 2016 at 4:46 PM

    Your right Mister Tuff & they already have £12M towards a striker from us for Jonjo. If they offload Gomis to us for say £6/8M who knows they may go for Berahino or Lacazette. However it is very dangerous to sell key players BEFORE you get proper replacements & don’t we know how that works here at the Toon?

  • 76 Mister Tuff // Jan 27, 2016 at 4:47 PM

    hibbitt – I posted about his nickname about 2 year ago on here.
    Just hope Ryder is wrong – if not and it is true -whether we get him or not – just to consider such a player suggests to me something seriously wrong with whoever is putting him in the mix.
    Surely it cannot be true.

  • 77 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 27, 2016 at 4:50 PM

    OP Just who were the players we don’t want who showcased themselves?We’ll interest nobody will them if that’s the best they can do.
    I think all that happened is Darlow will be on the fitness table suffering from a bad back from having to bend down & pick the ball out of the net so many times

  • 78 optimistic prime // Jan 27, 2016 at 4:52 PM


    I’ll get stoned for this, I don’t think Perez should be starting. He’s not strong enough IMO or consistant enough.
    He’s gets a goal now and then and looks really good at times but I don’t think he contributes enough.

    I think Mitro suffers because of this when they play together, he has better opportunities with Gini. Mitro will come good it’s when and can we afford to wait.

    The club will give us their answer over the next 5days

  • 79 Mister Tuff // Jan 27, 2016 at 4:53 PM

    West – if Swans told Penfold that they could have Gomis for 4 -5 million Penfold would have the cheque book out straight away – not realising he was being had.
    Nice little addition to the Swans bank balance for the purchase of a quality player.
    Penfold would be on the blower to Mr Tubbs bragging about a bargain acquisition.

  • 80 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 27, 2016 at 4:54 PM

    Madison your’e right but we know we needn’t spend any more Premiership time on them ,they are just not good enough but we have had so many injuries that McLaren hasn’t had anyone else to consider. We were on the bare bones & still are defensively.

  • 81 yorkshire_magpie // Jan 27, 2016 at 4:54 PM

    SSN reporting Thauvin is going back to Marseille. So 1 in 1 out!

  • 82 optimistic prime // Jan 27, 2016 at 4:59 PM


    For all we know Steeve just wanted to run the rule over Marveux Obertan or whoever before releasing them.

    It the Makems take any confidence from that they’d be pretty stupid IMO, the players they put out were some of their best players and who’d we put out?

    Players who’ve hardly featured all year some who haven’t for 2 and others just returning from injury.

    If it was our first 11 I’d be way more concerned, I doubt it’ll affect our first teams confidence as by the looks of things none of them played.

  • 83 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 27, 2016 at 4:59 PM

    Getting back to Transfer Sage comment 44
    Yes we have 4 goalkeepers. The best Krul is out for the rest of the season. Elliott has been exceeding all expectations and is playing out of his skin. Woodman is one for the future and I am not convinced about Darlow YET. If Elliott were badly injured we again have not got the depth in this position. Deregister Krul until the end of the season and bring in another experienced on loan goalie as cover.

  • 84 SPRINGY // Jan 27, 2016 at 5:01 PM

    so our fringe players and recently returned from injury get beat….worsed thing about it is we still did’nt bloody score a goal!!,…..and marvaeux back on the crocks list apparently…..may as well cancel his contract and come to some arrangement with him to leave……good luck…goodbye

  • 85 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 27, 2016 at 5:06 PM

    Optimistic. We drawn absolutely nothing from that “performance” Just hope he is now running the rule over which players he actually wants in his 25. The English issue now seems to be solved for the moment . He just needs to leave space for his new LB,CB & CF & “emergency” goalie but I doubt very much that he’ll cover all bases. I hope in the Summer it won’t be if only we have brought in a couple more quality players in the January window. If someone bids £15/20M for Perez now I’m sure he will be sold to balance the books sadly

  • 86 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 27, 2016 at 5:07 PM

    Springy we have at least to be ruthless with Marvaux and cancel his registration from the 25 like was done with HBA

  • 87 Toon_Barmy // Jan 27, 2016 at 5:08 PM

    Don’t get me wrong, getting spanked by them lot is painful at any level but I think some people are over reacting. Our back up players at best and most of which are not up to fitness, let alone premier league class. I remember the same reaction when we were beat 6-1 by Leyton orient in a friendly. Meant nowt

  • 88 Toon_Barmy // Jan 27, 2016 at 5:10 PM

    Silver lining is nobody seen it

  • 89 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 27, 2016 at 5:13 PM

    MT yeah these other Prem Clubs outwit us every time. I bet Levy is laughing all the way to the bank. £12M for yet another sick note. Although wouldn’t be at all surprised to see Perez going the other way later this week for less money.
    That’s how our lot think. Oh we paid £1 or 2M for him let’s sell for a huge profit

  • 90 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 27, 2016 at 5:14 PM

    TB is that Eh Ho silver lining

  • 91 toon kk // Jan 27, 2016 at 5:17 PM

    We’ve been basically playing without a real quality striker whether it be first team or reserves ever since Remy left. Yes Mitrovic has quality’s along with Perez but we’re hardly starting any game with that outstanding threat that Ba and Remy supplied.
    No cutting edge no goals, the main reason why we’re in the bottom three.

  • 92 GeordieTwo // Jan 27, 2016 at 5:18 PM

    Haven’t seen anymore reports from the match yet West Lancs mate. As above Marveaux apparently came off injured. Lascelles and Saylor played with Darlow in net. Marveaux, Gouffy, Aarons, and Riviere also played. I guess that explains why we didn’t score! With Riviere up front that is…..

  • 93 GeordieTwo // Jan 27, 2016 at 5:20 PM

    If the 3 we’ve already gotten in are all that’s coming we are taking a huge risk. We play Chelsea and Man City after Everton and West Brom. Huge problems there. The West Brom game is a must win. If we lost that one we may slip below Sunderland.

  • 94 optimistic prime // Jan 27, 2016 at 5:21 PM


    I don’t think Perez fits in the style we’re trying to play, I’d take the £15m (which he currently isn’t worth) and I’d spend it elsewhere.
    The club may take the money but I doubt they’d spend it.

    What did Sunderland gain out of the game?

    We should get our first team to play a reserve team if it’s of that much of a benifit!

  • 95 SPRINGY // Jan 27, 2016 at 5:22 PM

    although any loss to that lot is crap….its a friendly..most of our players either have’nt played much..or at all for the first team, or are looking to move on or be moved on.

  • 96 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 27, 2016 at 5:24 PM

    This game was in place of an FA CUP game, we were bound to play a weakened team as we would’ve in the cup

  • 97 MadisonToon // Jan 27, 2016 at 5:24 PM


    The thing is that I wouldn’t be at all surprised if we get points off of Chelsea and City and nothing from Everton and WB. It’s just the way that the club turns up for the big matches (e.g. recent Spurs/Pool wins). Too bad they can’t find consistency and the wherewithal to beat the teams we need to beat that could be 6 pointers.

  • 98 GeordieTwo // Jan 27, 2016 at 5:25 PM

    It shows the state of our bench and reserve players though. What a mess. What is Saylor still doing with us? His contract expires in June thank God. Marveaux hasn’t been used for years now. Get rid of. Riviere is hopeless. Get rid of. Obertan out as well (contract expires). Come on, let’s get on with it Penfold.

  • 99 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 27, 2016 at 5:26 PM

    Just found this about Scilio
    “Milan has proposed a little exchange of players to Juventus. One step involves 23-year-old fullback Mattia De Sciglio going from Milan to Juventus. The second step involves high-sock extraordinaire and longtime Juventus defender Martin Cáceres heading in the other direction and donning rossonero.”

    Well Optimistic – What the Mackems will have got out of it is it will have given the lad Watmore bags of confidence. Perhaps we should bid for him – he’s obviously got goals in him

  • 100 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 27, 2016 at 5:29 PM

    The dirty Makems. Spreading news that they beat NUFC 6 – 0. Is there no depths to which they will not sink? They shouldn’t mention it as it was behind closed doors with no reporting. In actual fact NUFC won 10 – 0 but I’m not going to boast about it because it was meaningless. The desperate bounders.

  • 101 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 27, 2016 at 5:29 PM

    Everton with a few more defeats are in the relegation mix. But as you say Madison they won’t play as bad against us as they did against Swans. But they have only won three games at Goodison all season. Agree WBA game is a must win.

  • 102 SPRINGY // Jan 27, 2016 at 5:30 PM

    toon kk
    i like mitro but we need goals now…the lad has qualitys but lacking confidence…..if he starts scoring once all our new transfers start getting some game time great…..if not he’ll have to drop down to the bench..IF we get a new striker….games are running out…or should i say…. winnable games are running out

  • 103 optimistic prime // Jan 27, 2016 at 5:32 PM


    So a kid who gets the last ten of games minutes got confidence from scoring against a reserve team who’s defence had never played together and a team that was made up of spare parts, big deal.

    I though the game was a stupid idea, still do but it’s no where near the disaster your making out. If you flapped anymore you’d take off!

  • 104 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 27, 2016 at 5:33 PM

    Newcastle Team
    Krul, Mbabu, Saylor, Willo, Haidara, Anita , Tiote Marvaux, Aarons Cisse, Obertan Sub Toney
    Oh sorry there all injured or just about to come back from injury

    Here in lies a big big problem
    Fitness/Injuries – Needs addressing

  • 105 GeordieTwo // Jan 27, 2016 at 5:34 PM

    To be honest I hate playing West Brom with Pulis in charge. His teams always have great set pieces, especially corners. I wouldn’t be surprised if they get at least one from a corner.

  • 106 GeordieTwo // Jan 27, 2016 at 5:35 PM

    Forget Everton getting into the relegation mix West Lancs mate. It’s going to be us against Norwich and Bournemouth to decide who gets 18th place and goes down with Sunderland and Villa.

  • 107 WWSBRD // Jan 27, 2016 at 5:35 PM

    What’s the plan for Elliott being injured? I’d imagine play one of the two highly rated other keepers we have at the club

    Tbf had Darlow not been injured when Krul suffered his Elliott wouldn’t of been playing now

  • 108 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 27, 2016 at 5:39 PM

    Are the injuries to Obertan, Willo & Marvaux going to stand in the way of hem being able to leave the Club this window?

    Oh & Optimistic I am still optimistic and hopeful of at least 2 of LB ST & CB being sorted before window shuts. As for the closed door debacle I couldn’t give a sh..e what happened. I was just having the craic & you seem to have taken the bait

  • 109 Tsunki // Jan 27, 2016 at 5:40 PM

    What that game tells us it’s no use relying on our bench players. I hope someone from our side swept the ground with a magnet I bet there’s a few bobs’ worth of scrap lying around after Marveaux came off. We should have had him weighed in ages ago before the price of steel fell through the floor. Speaking of falling through the floor, how did Saylor do?

  • 110 SPRINGY // Jan 27, 2016 at 5:42 PM

    west lancs
    willo is near fitness apparently so might be gone by monday…the others are out of contract i think so does’nt matter if there injured

  • 111 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 27, 2016 at 5:44 PM

    Geordie 2 The village I live in is predominately Blue Noses & speak to many of them on a regular basis. They are worried as injuries are piling up Besic & Mirallas on Sunday & they are still involved in both cup competitions with fixtures coming thick and fast. They too haven’t got a strong squad. But agree more likely to be two from Mackems, Swans, Bournemouth, Canaries & ourselves to join Villa

  • 112 optimistic prime // Jan 27, 2016 at 5:46 PM


    More like talking bollocks to me!

  • 113 GeordieTwo // Jan 27, 2016 at 5:49 PM

    Jarvis and Naismith will give Norwich a lift but we should still be better than them surely! If we finish below Norwich Ashley deserves to be shot.

  • 114 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 27, 2016 at 5:49 PM

    Springy -Was out with two Wolves supporters last Friday. They love Willo. Have offered to run him to Molyneux for them. If others are injured then if we need the numbers then don’t include the other wastrels in the 25.
    You know Springy I call him Willo the Weak. How can a 6 foot 4 giant have so little aggression? Anyway Colo has passed comment about this and we should see so much more 2nd ball winning next time out.

    I hope!

  • 115 Jib // Jan 27, 2016 at 5:51 PM

    If you look at our list of forwards .
    To an outsider it would look quite impressive.

    Cissé – Mitrovic – Perez – Armstrong – Toney – Gouffran – Riviere – Siem de Jong

  • 116 cyprus // Jan 27, 2016 at 5:52 PM

    Although he was poor in his debut both he and the other Forest player are highly regarded by their fans.
    Goalie isn’t the urgent need Ed, I think.

    We need an Aguero 😉

    Welcome Andros. Best of luck and keep us up mate. See you in Cyprus.

  • 117 GeordieTwo // Jan 27, 2016 at 5:52 PM

    They do have a lot on their plate West Lancs mate. It must be nice to progress in domestic cups…. Not that we would know anything about that. We can’t even handle one competition, the Prem! Hopeless leadership produces hopeless results. Get that knacker Charnley oot of the club Ashley.

  • 118 toon kk // Jan 27, 2016 at 5:54 PM

    As far as clearing out the dead wood go’s it will not happen, not yet anyway.
    We’re still in the stage of not knowing which league we’ll be playing in next season, All our dead wood could very well be our future if we do down.

  • 119 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 27, 2016 at 5:55 PM

    With the squad we have got on paper we know we should be top half with 35 points now but we aren’t. Paper tactics regrettably don’t win football matches.
    Let’s wait till the end of this window & judge them then.
    Ashley Out Sack the Board & Mclaren isn’t going to help at this stage in proceedings. We’ve just got to get behind what we’ve got & hope it’s enough.

  • 120 GeordieTwo // Jan 27, 2016 at 5:56 PM

    Cisse: a sick note and hopelessly inconsistent
    Riviere: never could score in the Prem. Hopeless
    Toney: jury’s out. Long way to go.
    Gouffran: mainly used as a defensive sub now. Not a goal scorer since his first few games with us.
    Armstron: jury’s out. Hasn’t played enough at Prem level to be judged at all.
    Perez: decent, but small and can be pushed off the ball. Can’t carry the load with Mitro
    Mitro: slow, has shown a lack of finish so far, may come around or may not.
    De Jong: hopeless sick note. Should be moved on, like his brother.

  • 121 SPRINGY // Jan 27, 2016 at 5:57 PM

    west lancs
    al believe it when i see it mate!…
    players out of contract this summer…
    s taylor 30
    m williamson 32
    s marveaux 29
    g obertan 26
    r aarons 20
    f woodman 18
    k mbabu 20
    ages as of now

  • 122 toon kk // Jan 27, 2016 at 5:57 PM

    If we can’t beat Norwich it’s the player’s that deserve to be shot not MA.

  • 123 BandB // Jan 27, 2016 at 5:57 PM

    When folks are talking about our dead wood, I presume they mean our substitutes?

  • 124 GeordieTwo // Jan 27, 2016 at 5:58 PM

    People said we should give McLaren 10 games West Lancs mate. Then it was 20. Now it’s a whole season. He’s not a top manager anymore, if he ever was. He might keep us up and he might not. It will probably be the same next season. More bollocks and bottom 10 finishes.

  • 125 The Newcastle Armchair // Jan 27, 2016 at 5:58 PM


    Out of interest, who do you think our best out and out wingers have been in the last 10 years?

  • 126 GeordieTwo // Jan 27, 2016 at 5:58 PM

    Well, to be on the safe side toon kk mate, I would shoot all of them. Harrumph…..

  • 127 GeordieTwo // Jan 27, 2016 at 6:00 PM

    Let’s just say we would have no trouble starting a fire with either our first team or bench players BandB mate.

  • 128 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 27, 2016 at 6:00 PM

    I really hope not Toon KK. They wouldn’t get us out the Conference never mind the Championship. Anyway all these new signings are on five year deals. They have time to go down with us come back up & win the Premiership in three seasons time.
    Any way we’re too good to go down aren’t we?

  • 129 Tsunki // Jan 27, 2016 at 6:00 PM

    No not necessarily BandB. Admittedly it’s a very broad brush that one. People should be more specific

  • 130 SPRINGY // Jan 27, 2016 at 6:01 PM

    i would’nt let any players leave till the summer we are in a relegation battle and every player is back up.

  • 131 optimistic prime // Jan 27, 2016 at 6:02 PM


    Maybe they mean Carr Moncour and Charnley

  • 132 Tsunki // Jan 27, 2016 at 6:03 PM

    -TGTGD that’s what we should put at the top of the page after ‘Newcastle United’

  • 133 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 27, 2016 at 6:03 PM

    Yeah Springy not disputing that mate & unlikely we would offer new contracts to any of the old guys especially in view of the high wages I have quoted in the past. Need them off the payroll. The three youngsters must form part of the future

  • 134 Tsunki // Jan 27, 2016 at 6:04 PM

    Springy – EVERY player? Hmmm.

  • 135 GeordieTwo // Jan 27, 2016 at 6:06 PM

    Have we tried lining up all the players, young’uns, first team, reserves, etc. and fonging them repeatedly? Then get into the executive offices and do the same in there. Charnley especially needs extra work. Harrumph…..

  • 136 Tsunki // Jan 27, 2016 at 6:06 PM

    “Oh no, Mitrovic, Wijnaldum, Townsend and Shelvey are out injured – but WAIT! it’s OK! We have SDJ, Gouffran, Colback and Riviere! We’re saved!”

  • 137 SPRINGY // Jan 27, 2016 at 6:07 PM

    well…sort of!lol

  • 138 GeordieTwo // Jan 27, 2016 at 6:07 PM

    Possibly we could show the lads some pictures of Jackie Milburn scoring goals and winning cups. It would be a nice change from picking the ball out of our own net……

  • 139 toon kk // Jan 27, 2016 at 6:07 PM

    West lanks
    Without a new quality striker we will go down, we haven’t one real garentee to get goals striker in our squad not one.
    Mitrovic needs time. Missed chances has been the story of our season.

  • 140 GeordieTwo // Jan 27, 2016 at 6:09 PM

    It’s been the same now for years. Colo can’t do it by himself. Mbemba is generally excellent on the ball but we don’t play as a cohesive back four. Janmaat gets trapped too far up the pitch and generally jogs back. We don’t have a true starting LB, just a bunch of fill-ins. Not good enough at all against Prem quality attackers. Look at the goals allowed column. Shocking every year.

  • 141 SPRINGY // Jan 27, 2016 at 6:09 PM

    did’nt say they were equally as good… but could do something of a job….better then not having them at all

  • 142 SPRINGY // Jan 27, 2016 at 6:11 PM

    i think taylor will get a contract myself….happy bench warmer

  • 143 BandB // Jan 27, 2016 at 6:13 PM


    They are being dismissed as a bunch of fringe players this afternoon.
    They were the ones charged with trying to rescue a point for us on Saturday, and will make up the bench on Tuesday.

  • 144 Brian Pinas // Jan 27, 2016 at 6:14 PM

    Ed you sound like an hysterical old woman at the minute.

    Go grab a beer, put ya feet up and watch the telly.

    We’re not gonna get relegated. Chill out.

  • 145 GeordieTwo // Jan 27, 2016 at 6:16 PM

    What???? What’s that Springy???? Saylor gets a new contract????? Ahhhhhhhhh!!!!!!

  • 146 SPRINGY // Jan 27, 2016 at 6:18 PM

    toon kk
    it looks like the idea of paying 20+m for berahino,lacazette,gabbiadini is out the window now…more likely to be 7-10m on gomis,caicedo type of player….wonder if bony is available?

  • 147 belgrade fan // Jan 27, 2016 at 6:18 PM

    soccer sauce put a picture of Townsend at SJP

  • 148 toon kk // Jan 27, 2016 at 6:19 PM

    All too often we look lost, our work rate is diabolical, the whole team looks really poor when we’re capable of much more, but we still lack that prolific striker.

  • 149 SPRINGY // Jan 27, 2016 at 6:20 PM

    sorry to scare the shit out of you!lol…..he has’nt got a new contract…..i just think he will as he will be happy to sit on the bench

  • 150 GeordieTwo // Jan 27, 2016 at 6:21 PM

    Take that back Springy or I’ll hurt myself with this pointy stick!!! I’m warning you! And no new contracts for any of the others who are done in June except Aarons, Mbabu and Gillead possibly.

  • 151 SPRINGY // Jan 27, 2016 at 6:23 PM

    ok i take that back……but you maybe upset in the summer!!!!…….just saying!!!lol

  • 152 Fostino // Jan 27, 2016 at 6:25 PM

    Townsand officially confirmed. Don’t care the cost. An exciting signing. Great to get it done so we can concentrate on striker.

    Questions need to be asked about the signing of cabella. .thauvin..riverie by Carr. .These are big money flops. Seems like the new philosophy to yo sign English.

    Credit to Ashley. That’s 2 windows now where we are top of the spending list.

    Shame on rolando..maybe he could establish himself as a l.b. A position thst needs filling

  • 153 neverwin // Jan 27, 2016 at 6:33 PM

    Can anyone expain why Toon hand out FIVE year contracts This is why we cannot get rid of players – they are happy to see contracts out and get easy money.

  • 154 JamesToon // Jan 27, 2016 at 6:41 PM

    In the summer these are the players I would sell:
    Coloccini, Taylor, Williamson, Gouffran, Obertan, Marveaux, thauvin, de Jong, Cisse, Haidara

    Then if we get good offers I’d sell these:
    Perez – if we get a bid of at least £18m
    Sissoko – for at least £15m
    Janmaat – for at least £10m

    We need to rebuild the squad in the summer based on domestic experience, and particular characteristics. No more of these players who have “got good goal records in France” if we want to play a pass and move style of play, then imp defenders need to be able to defend, full backs need to be able to get up and down the pitch, midfielders need to be able to pass, wingers need pace and ability to cross, attackers need to either have pace or aerial ability/physical stature. Hopefully that’s what we’re building towards. But right now we don’t have enough players in every position that fulfil those attributes

  • 155 lesh // Jan 27, 2016 at 7:06 PM

    The 6-0 possing won’t have done anybody’s confidence any good.

    Playing in a no-pressure game and having had six put past him, has shown him to be not up to the Prem – particularly if Elliot’s missing for any reason.

    Had we been sitting comfortably up the league then taking a risk with a young keeper may not have been too worrying. However, we’re in the relegation mix and there’s too much to lose taking a chance on him.

    The same applies to CB and LB so hopefully McClaren might be able to use the game as evidence that we still need experienced players to be brought in – if Ashley’ll take the message and assuming Charnley’s head’s out of the sand!

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