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Why Were Newcastle Not Signing This Defender?

7:46 am, Thursday, January 28th, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 23 Comments

Sunderland manager Sam Allardyce is carefully and quietly building up his side in an attempt to save them from relegation on what must be something like their fifth season on the trot fighting relegation and yesterday they went back in and signed Lorient center-back Lamine Kone.

Newcastle are not much better off than Sunderland and since 2012 we have been fighting relegation more often than not.

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Lamine Kone – signed by Sunderland

The 26 year-old Ivory Coast defender was on Wearside three weeks ago but was sent back to France after Sunderland seemingly decided against signing him, when they brough tin Bayern Munich center-back Jan Kirchhoff for a cut price £700K.

At the time manager Sam Allardyce said the move for Kone had broken down.

We thought at the time that could have been a good opportunity for Newcastle to sign a solid center-back for a reasonable fee.

Kone is a good player and one that Newcastle have been linked with, so how come Newcastle didn’t try to sign him – with the fee said to be around £5M?

It seems the powers that be at Newcastle think our defense is good enough to survive, but with all the injuries we keep picking up our defense is still a big weakness.

Two things are a big surprise in this transfer window.

  1. Newcastle still have not signed a striker when everybody knew that was out biggest need this month – and news that our pursuit of a striker could go down to the wire is well – frightening in case we don’t land one.
  2. We don’t seem to have made any attempt to strengthen the defense – and that includes bringing some back-up in for Rob Elliot.

Newcastle are still going to find things very difficult to survive in the Premier League this season and there are really no silver bullets that can save us given our low position in the league table.

One (good) reason we could still go down is our defense is still our Achilles heel and nothing has been done to strengthen it in case of even more injuries being picked up before the end of what has become another nightmare season for Newcastle fans.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.



Tags: Newcastle News · Recruitment · Scouting Network · Transfer News and Rumours · Transfer Target




23 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Reyantoon // Jan 28, 2016 at 7:50 AM

    I smelt some bandwagon, gang act and back biting lately.I don’t care who fights who but as far as I’m concerned,my knife is already sharpened! Take your non sense in to the sh-t!!

  • 2 ToonRich // Jan 28, 2016 at 7:54 AM

    Nando Torres been told he’s surplus to requirements…anyone think he could take some pressure off mitro??

  • 3 firebug666 // Jan 28, 2016 at 7:54 AM

    Repost

    Lilongwe

    I think that although we do go out and scout players, most of our targets are found using that new software Wyscout that was installed during Pardew’s time.

    This maybe why we seem to make so many mistakes when scouting for talent these days. Pardew said that the system gives them up to the minute information on any player in the world.

    Having selected the targets they may then send a scout to have a look, or maybe they just have the scouts go out to approach the club who knows.

    But from what Pardew said, Wyscout is used heavily in recruiting players.

    I agree we should have changes to the board mind, and we need a DoF.

  • 4 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 28, 2016 at 7:58 AM

    Reyan,
    What are you going on about?

    Firebug,
    The majority of clubs use WyScout nowadays, not all to the same extent though. I wouldn’t have thought that is the primary tool, if it is then it is fairly laughable. There is huge value to what the etas can tell you, but there is also context which isn’t given in stats and there are other attributes that can’t be measured so are ignored.

    The best way to use a tool like WyScout is after you have watched and identified a player. Then follow up by looking at the information and detail that they can provide, not the other way round. This way the data and info can cement your opinion of the player or highlight areas that you may have missed. It would still require a further look at the player.

  • 5 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 28, 2016 at 7:59 AM

    ToonRich,
    Torres was told he wouldn’t be signed in the summer on a permanent, but he is still at Atletico for the remainder of the season on loan.

  • 6 banjax // Jan 28, 2016 at 8:02 AM

    It’s hard to know what the powers at Newcastle have in mind to strengthen the defence, but it does seem to have taken second place when in reality it is probably the most vital part of the team. Maybe they think we can struggle through by scoring more goals than conceding but history very definitely tells us that is not the case because we need a goal scorer first to do that. Oh well -we can just hope!

  • 7 lordy_geordie // Jan 28, 2016 at 8:07 AM

    Ash wont buy defenders because they have very little sell on value. A defender would have to be exceptional to get them more of a profit.

  • 8 geordie157 // Jan 28, 2016 at 8:07 AM

    Kone isn’t that good so don’t think we’ve missed out on this one. Byram and Gray for 4mill each are players we should have gone for.

    But the list goes on…dier, alli, cresswell….

  • 9 richardj1986 // Jan 28, 2016 at 8:10 AM

    What a pointless article. I for one normally like some of these blogs. Today this one made me laugh. The answer is so obvious. Why are we not buying this defender. He is African. He would replace colo. Next season we would lose two cbs to the cup of nations. Nufc management are not that thick

  • 10 ToonRich // Jan 28, 2016 at 8:15 AM

    Ah cheers LG, had missed the part about his current deal!
    We’re really scrapping the barrel again, unless mash performs a miracle worldie signing!!

  • 11 OneAlanShearer // Jan 28, 2016 at 8:17 AM

    First off Ed I agree. Still no striker or left or centre back and gk to challenge/backup elliot/Krul. A couple of injuries at the back see us beyond thread bare.

    Obviously aiming for a striker but I’d say a specialist left back and keeper would see us covered until the summer when we can replace colo with a younger version.

    The prolific striker is key.

  • 12 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 28, 2016 at 8:29 AM

    ToonRich,
    Yeah, options are slim. I’d be reluctant to get in most of the players currently been linked, but it is a big risk to try and go through the remainder of the season without back up/options to Mitro.

    Sissoko is yet to get a goal, which is atrocious for a player who doesn’t defend a huge amount and is valued at £25million.

    Hopefully Townsend can surprise me and chip in with goals and good service from the left. If he can, then I can see Mitro starting to get a few more, Gini continuing to get a few from the centre and then Perez chipping in occasionally along with Shelvey. We also have an added set piece threat with Shelvey’s delivery.

    If Sissoko starts scoring, I think we will get enough goals throughout the team without the need for a new goalscorer. The problem then comes though if any injuries or suspensions are picked up by those players, and the lack of viable replacements for them.

  • 13 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 28, 2016 at 8:30 AM

    As for Sol Bamba, a centre half who is struggling to get into a mid table championship side? I’d rather keep Willo.

  • 14 Geremi's Prosthetic Leg Fund // Jan 28, 2016 at 8:33 AM

    Why in God’s name haven’t we gone for Jordan Rhodes? He’s perfect for us at this time. Natural born finisher, great movement, good experience.

    If we can flush 12 mill down the toilet for the pathetic Thauvin, we can surely stump up 8 – 10 mill for someone who will graft his heart out and has fantastic finishing ability.

  • 15 ToonRich // Jan 28, 2016 at 8:39 AM

    I can’t even believe we’d look at a journeyman like Bamba. My dad is a hibs fan; he was never pleased with a Sol performance in the Scottish league, would be as bad as Boumsong signing!!

    We should offer Pool £17m for Benteke, I think he could fit in at the toon better than scouseland

  • 16 Toonfan8 // Jan 28, 2016 at 8:40 AM

    ToonRich
    good call on Benteke, but I think his wages would be a big problem here…

  • 17 King Colback // Jan 28, 2016 at 8:43 AM

    How do you brainwash a Swansea fan?

    Give them an enema

  • 18 ToonRich // Jan 28, 2016 at 8:47 AM

    GPLF, maybe we should take a risk on someone like Rhodes. Born goal scorer, much like Shearer! British, still to hit his prime, and wages wouldn’t break our bank…

    Toonfan8, if we put a cheeky bid in, never know…Benteke may jump at the chance of regular match time as he needs it before the euros. If Liverpool are happier playing an MF up top that must be denting his confidence :/

  • 19 barkel // Jan 28, 2016 at 8:48 AM

    Can’t see us signing a GK, CB or LB in this window, possibly will try to get by without a new ST too.

    GK’s – Elliot, Darlow & Woodman
    CB’s – Colo, Mbemba, Taylor, Lacelles
    LB’s – Dummet, Haidara
    ST’s – Mitro, Perez, Cisse, Rivi

    Colback, Anita & Mbabu will be used for fullback cover on both sides. I don’t agree with it, just the way I think the club is viewing the squad

  • 20 Jack Root // Jan 28, 2016 at 8:54 AM

    We’ve for many years spent fortunes on the wrong transfers and there have been many humorous examples.
    Back in the 1980’s AC Milan scouts spotted a highly skilful young black player at Watford. It became clear that the player they rated was John Barnes but that they then confused him with Luther Blissett. Anyway Milan ended up signing Blissett for £1 million. He spent an unhappy year at Milan before being sold back to Watford for half the fee they had paid. Thereafter Blissett became a pseudonym in Italy for a duff signing. It also gave football one of its best quotes. “No matter how much money you have here, you can’t seem to get Rice Krispies”
    Clubs use WyScout after identifying and watching a player. Usually to analyse strengths and any weaknesses they might have identified. Carr watched Cabaye for over a year and met the family long before we bid for him. Pardew saw him well into this process by which time Cabaye had made his mind up to join us and long before it went public. He signed in June 2011 which enabled us to move onto finalising other deals. We need a devised scouting programme at academy, under 21 and senior level. This should be under the control of a DOF but dictated by needs of McClaren.

  • 21 TroubledToon // Jan 28, 2016 at 9:15 AM

    ToonRich,

    The only pressure Torres would take off Mitro is that of having another striker who’s even more impotent in front of goal

  • 22 The overrated Frenchman // Jan 28, 2016 at 9:18 AM

    As is so often the case, the sickly smell of desperation hangs heavily over St.James’ as we approach the end of another transfer window. The quality defender and striker everybody called for have failed to materialise. Is anybody surprised? Shelvey and Townsend come heavy with baggage and the optimistic rhetoric of a “fresh start.” (They’ve played for England you know). The chief attraction of Saivet appears to be that his transfer fee will help pay for the new paving on the terrace at Graham Carr’s holiday home. Somebody said recently they enjoyed our Championship season. So did I. That’s our level really, and I think we should be prepared to embrace it.

  • 23 tweeds // Jan 28, 2016 at 9:40 AM

    I fear the plan is to give Riviere another chance, I can’t believe we did not get Austin, with the new men he would be banging them in for fun, I wonder if they will try Mitro and Riviere together ?? That would be different!!!!




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