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Thauvin Gave Up Too Soon On Newcastle

2:56 pm, Saturday, January 30th, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 316 Comments

There’s news in France that Florian Thauvin is expected to become a Marseille player again today – and it looks like he still wants to go on loan and back to his former club through the end of the season – he is even willing to take a pay cut to do that.

But if Florian does make the move today he’s basically given up on Newcastle and the Premier League for that matter – and it’s hard to see him ever returning to Newcastle or even the Premier League.

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Florian Thauvin – gave up too soon at Newcastle

This seems a monumental error by Newcastle in the transfer market and Steve McClaren had rightly wanted the player to stay, even though he had found things very difficult in the first six month at Newcastle.

Whenever you move to a new club and another country it’s always (very) difficult, but time heals all wounds so to speak.

It’s uncomfortable and even a bit scary when you move to any new job – even more difficult when that job is in another country – and it takes some time to adjust.

There was also the chance also that Newcastle’s fortunes would improve as we have brought in some good players this month.

But as soon as Andros Townsend was signed by Newcastle earlier in the week we had promised Florian he could make the loan move to Marseille – if he still wanted to do that and didn’t want to give it another go on Tyneside.

Newcastle will take a hit in terms of the finances and £13M was always a high price to pay for a player who had a poor season last term in the south of France.

Florian is a skillful player and just like Ben Arfa before him – it would not surprise us if he rekindles his career in France – and even goes on eventually to become a regular French International.

But playing in the tough Premier League is a much bigger proposition for any player and we think the 23 year-old gave up on that possibility too soon.

Maybe he should have seen out the season and then made the decision.

After all it does warm up when April and May arrive in Newcastle.

Sometimes.

🙂

Anyway we can imagine how difficult it’s been for the youngster – so hopefully he can start to get his confidence back this season in France.

Florian’s expected to sign a loan deal today until the end of the season with Marseille – according to reports in France.

What happens in the summer we have no idea – maybe a loan deal at Marseille for next season?

What do you think?

Comments welcome.



Tags: Florian Thauvin · Loan Moves · Newcastle News · Transfer Target




316 responses so far ↓

  • 1 SPRINGY // Jan 30, 2016 at 2:58 PM

    toon and everton after miller bolanos apparently

  • 2 JackButler // Jan 30, 2016 at 2:59 PM

    So that two of Carr’s Crown Jewels out on loan as they are not good enough and a lot are reporting we may be getting his other long term target Gomiss. How many more nails have to be driven into this guys coffin before he shown the door

  • 3 WWSBRD // Jan 30, 2016 at 3:01 PM

    Not given a chance then fans singled him out and booed him…not exactly the best environment for him

  • 4 JackButler // Jan 30, 2016 at 3:04 PM

    WWSBRD

    The lad was devoid of any confidence before coming here as he had an absolute nightmare for eighteen months in France and should have never been brought in as we are not the club to rebuild anyone’s confidence.

    Given our current state having £25 millions pounds worth of player out on loan is a damning indictment of the way we operate

  • 5 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 30, 2016 at 3:06 PM

    Ed, we’re running a top flight football club not a sunday school, although we won’t be for much longer if Graham Carr continues with such monumental errors and the likes of you back his pish poor picks.

  • 6 angelswithdirtyfaces // Jan 30, 2016 at 3:14 PM

    Did Thauvin give up on uz or did we give up on him ?
    It’s a chicken and egg question.
    Had he made regular starts he may have adapted to the EPL.
    In any event its the guy who recommended signing him without a niche in the side who needs to csarry the can.

    Carr could make that mistake in his 40s as well as his 70s. It is not an age related error of judgement.
    There are some skills for which experience does count. He may not be able to become a sporting champion but as long as he is not geriatric, there is no reason age prevents him making the right decisions.
    Age-ists like Bl&Br need to differentiate between age limited skills and age limiting activities – like 5 times a night sex for the over 70s. Just think Churchill in WW2 became PM at 66, and again in 1951 at the age of 77. I don’t know about Churchill’s sexual proclivities but he could drink a few under the table at any age.

  • 7 toon kk // Jan 30, 2016 at 3:14 PM

    Fickle fans never gave the lad a chance.
    He may not be able to cut the premier league but he was hardly given a chance by anyone.

  • 8 Belfast // Jan 30, 2016 at 3:15 PM

    He’s contributed absolutely nothing so I don’t think he’ll be missed.

  • 9 SPRINGY // Jan 30, 2016 at 3:16 PM

    berahino scored

  • 10 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 30, 2016 at 3:17 PM

    Berahino has just scored for West Brom in the FA Cup

  • 11 ToonRich // Jan 30, 2016 at 3:17 PM

    Been any major breakthroughs on the transfer front lads? Been travelling back from Poland and tbh CBA’d back reading all ed’s treads lol

    I did see springy mentioned we’re linked to Miler Bolanos, can’t say I’ve heard of him! Any good?

  • 12 Belfast // Jan 30, 2016 at 3:18 PM

    It’s dog eat dog and he got eaten.

  • 13 WWSBRD // Jan 30, 2016 at 3:18 PM

    JB
    Didn’t help him being told he wasn’t worthy of the shirt after next to no game time

  • 14 mattyNUFC // Jan 30, 2016 at 3:18 PM

    maybe the booing took a toll, but i refuse to believe he ever cared enough to fully apply himself. he’d turned us down twice before and before he signed stated he did not want to come here.

    let him rot in france. marseille’s coaches dont even want him back. time to move on for all parties involved.

  • 15 Ian Toon // Jan 30, 2016 at 3:19 PM

    Belfast
    He always scores when he plays!

  • 16 Wayayman // Jan 30, 2016 at 3:19 PM

    Fickle fans!?! NUFC haven’t won anything in my lifetime and in a 45 yr old bloke. How the hell are we fickle? Just try your nuts off when you wear the shirt, that’s the minimum we should expect.

  • 17 JackButler // Jan 30, 2016 at 3:19 PM

    Toon kk

    It’s not about being fickled, it’s about knowing when we are wasting money when there’s little available, we did the exact same thing with Luuk de Jong, bring in a player with no confidence, throw them into a side that fractured and on its knees and expect them to perform.

    It’s about the club making smart decisions and Thauvin was the wrong player at the wrong club, it’s more of a reflection on how poor we are rather than the player himself

  • 18 SPRINGY // Jan 30, 2016 at 3:21 PM

    i dont think he got much of a chance at the club tbh…..and was torn a new one by a few fans before he kicked a ball….he may well of not been good enough but some players take a half season to a season to settle so hard to say if he would of developed…but its done now,good luck to him

  • 19 SPRINGY // Jan 30, 2016 at 3:23 PM

    toonrich
    was a report on newsnow from the daily star….no nowt at all about the lad….most probs crap tbh!lol

  • 20 Jail for Ashley // Jan 30, 2016 at 3:24 PM

    Ian,
    Will you bloody post as either Ian or carl and cut the bloody clap trap !

  • 21 mattyNUFC // Jan 30, 2016 at 3:24 PM

    i hate to bring it up, but my god i miss HBA. weve now spent 37 odd million trying to replace what we let go for nothing. if there is one thing that will have a lasting imprint on me about APs reign, itll be the fact that we had one of the most supremely talented footballers to ever play the game at our club, and egotism ruined it for us fans. who cares if he was inconsistent weve had a sh*t team for some time now. sure was nice to be entertained at least

  • 22 Munster Mag // Jan 30, 2016 at 3:27 PM

    As you know i have been saying from the first few matches that this guy would not make the grade with us. Many said i was unfair but it was obvious that he has little pace. Cant tackle either, and poor disposition. I have been saying that carr is hugely overrated for two years and now he needs to be banned from buying wingers, period. A shocking wate of money. I believe nufc is changing under ashley and we are certainly spending well. He needs to get rid of carr. I would keep smc ten times as fast as keeping old man carr and his Mondial connections. Ash should investigate the mans dealings there

  • 23 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 30, 2016 at 3:29 PM

    Angels
    You’re clearly a young man who hasn’t experienced the chills of the grim reaper.

    By his re-election in 1951, Churchill was, in the words of Roy Jenkins, “gloriously unfit for office”. Ageing and increasingly unwell, he often conducted business from his bedside, and while his powerful personality and oratory ability endured, the Prime Minister’s leadership was less decisive than during the war. His second term was most notable for the Conservative Party’s acceptance of Labour’s newly created Welfare State, and Churchill’s effect on domestic policy was limited. His later attempts at decreasing the developing Cold War through personal diplomacy failed to produce significant results, and poor health forced him to resign in 1955, making way for his Foreign Secretary and Deputy Prime Minister,Anthony Eden.

  • 24 SPRINGY // Jan 30, 2016 at 3:31 PM

    munster
    i agree with you that there appears to be a change when it comes to transfers….i think carr maybe on his way in the summer, or he maybe have to take more of a back seat when it comes to player selection.

  • 25 TomaKaThor // Jan 30, 2016 at 3:33 PM

    I blame a good chunk of so called Newcastle fans… I mean if they carry on they will probably push Mitrovic out as well because he hasn’t been sticking the ball in the net….yet if they actually watched his all round game they would see he does a good job with the little support he gets.

  • 26 Munster Mag // Jan 30, 2016 at 3:35 PM

    Matty, hba has been crap in most of his clubs. He once ran less than his keeper at hull. He falls out with people everywhere. Great skill no doubt. Wud he get near a team like pottechino’s? Not a prayer.

  • 27 JP...from The Rock // Jan 30, 2016 at 3:35 PM

    What I want to see in NUFC are quick, strong and technically gifted footballers that are fighters! That want to fight for their place and want to fight for victory!

    Thauvin is not a fighter therefore he can fcuk off back to France! We don’t need any time wasters here. We need a team of fighters hungry to win every match.

    Bye bye Thauvin thanks for nothing!

  • 28 Ian Toon // Jan 30, 2016 at 3:38 PM

    Jail
    I saw your posts earlier. Yer right!
    Enjoy your weekend. Any Berahino news?

  • 29 lochinvar // Jan 30, 2016 at 3:39 PM

    Thauvin has a classic French trait – they don’t travel well and prefer all things French generally , unless they have an older head ( Cabella ? )
    Weather plays a part – Thauvin would probably play better in the warm April sunshine but that’s too late for us – can we get our money back rather than a loan out ( at Wonga rates ) ?

    Berahino scores for WBA in the Cup…if he gets subbed will he wave their fans goodbye I wonder ?.

  • 30 AncientC // Jan 30, 2016 at 3:42 PM

    “hba has been crap in most of his clubs”

    Strange how Newcastle (managed by flair assassin Pardew) is the only club in HBA’s career that wanted to get rid of him.

  • 31 Munster Mag // Jan 30, 2016 at 3:43 PM

    Toma i agree. Nitro has real potential although he is somewhat limited. He cud get 14 goals a season if we team him up with real wingers. Theres no way we are finished spending and i think ashley has to be given credit. We may be off a low base but nufc is the biggest spender in world football now and i dont think we will ship guys out in the summer. If he does, i think we will buy again.

  • 32 bettyswallocks // Jan 30, 2016 at 3:44 PM

    We’re still playing cat and mouse with Mr. Pearce for Berahino, he seems a real stubborn git mind. Looks like it ll go to the wire.
    I hope if we do sign him it meets with the approval of Sven Goran Fuglslang.

  • 33 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 30, 2016 at 3:46 PM

    A bit like you Belfast 😉

  • 34 hibbitt // Jan 30, 2016 at 3:47 PM

    TomaKaThor post 25
    on what do you base such a wild comment like that….. you dont go to games otherwise you would know that the crowd are behind him 100% ……………you base your comments on a few fools on here who like your self haven’t got a clue stick to FIFA

  • 35 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 30, 2016 at 3:48 PM

    Betty Boop…no one understands the words that come out of your mouth! That’s why no one reply you!

  • 36 lesh // Jan 30, 2016 at 3:48 PM

    Surely Carr couldn’t have been wrong in persuading Charnley to blow £14m (?) on him when our immediate needs lay elsewhere!

    Carr’s supposed to be renowned for digging deep to assess targets’ background and character before recruiting isn’t he? Or is he!

    If Thauvin returns to France, then there’s been a lot of time and money wasted!

  • 37 Munster Mag // Jan 30, 2016 at 3:50 PM

    Ancient, he hasnt been successful and falls out with people habitually. He talks about being a euro star but he isnt, and never will be.

  • 38 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 30, 2016 at 3:51 PM

    Yes Ian…Berahino is alive and well in West Bromwich

  • 39 Belfast // Jan 30, 2016 at 3:52 PM

    Ooooooooh that hurt.

  • 40 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 30, 2016 at 3:53 PM

    Why would they return Thauvin when have other players to clear out? The mistake they have made on both Cabella and this kid is laughable!

  • 41 Belfast // Jan 30, 2016 at 3:53 PM

    He’s no Brian Laudrup Betty that we do know.

  • 42 Munster Mag // Jan 30, 2016 at 3:54 PM

    Lesh, carr has run the football side of the club for years. Badly. He chooses the players. He chose the manager. Thankfully ashley is now listening to smc i think.

  • 43 hibbitt // Jan 30, 2016 at 3:55 PM

    Munster Mag
    what do you agree with the fans will drive miro out he gets 100% support at the games only a few fools on here mouth off about him dont think mitro will even know this blog is out there but he will know 45000 are behind him in the ground and a lot more in the city

  • 44 toon kk // Jan 30, 2016 at 3:57 PM

    Jackbutler
    I know as much as anyone money was totally wasted on Thauvin, what a complete waste of money but there’s need to boo the lad, its not his fault Carr wasted millions on him. Maybe in France he can prove himself, he certainly wasn’t even given a chance at Newcastle.

  • 45 AncientC // Jan 30, 2016 at 3:58 PM

    Munster Mag, HBA has been successful in his career. As for speaking about being a Euro star, he once stated he dreamed of winning the Balon d’Or, a comment taken completely out of context.

    Every player dreams of winning the Balon d’Or. What is wrong with that?

    As for HBA being temperamental, some of the most gifted players normally are. The club has just signed Shelvey and Townsend, I assume you have objected to their signings, due to their records of falling out with club staff?

  • 46 bettyswallocks // Jan 30, 2016 at 3:58 PM

    Jesper……. In all seriousness how do you rate Berahino?

  • 47 WWSBRD // Jan 30, 2016 at 4:01 PM

    Athleticos LB just got red carded…

  • 48 Ian Toon // Jan 30, 2016 at 4:02 PM

    HBA flattered to deceive for all the reasons just mentioned. Thauvin never reached that level. It was the Thauvin signing by Carr following that of Cabella that convinced me Carr’s time was surely up as a chief scout. Why would Ashley be happy to be losing money in the French market where Carr is best known.

  • 49 TomaKaThor // Jan 30, 2016 at 4:05 PM

    Why would playing FIFA be relevant to anything here? Oh right that’s just what stupid people add to try and elevate there comment above others and paper over the cracks of their own lack of football knowledge.

  • 50 hibbitt // Jan 30, 2016 at 4:10 PM

    TomaKaThor
    other than on here were have you seen or heard any nufc fan have go at mitro ????

  • 51 Laurent Robert 32 // Jan 30, 2016 at 4:13 PM

    Hatem had many man of the matches in an abysmally coached side. Glided past people with limited movement around him (poorly coached side). Asked to play roles that he was not at all suited to and by all accounts stood up the berk in charge for playing a cringe worthy style of football that the vast majority of fans could see as well.

    Scapegoated and scrap-heaped by football politics he’s helping his new team high up the league through positive play and end product.

    An absolute footballing crime that he is not still here – remember, he did not want to go and tried to wait Pardew out.

  • 52 Laurent Robert 32 // Jan 30, 2016 at 4:15 PM

    Meanwhile, the players that were signed for big money to replace him, couldn’t lace his boots.

  • 53 angelswithdirtyfaces // Jan 30, 2016 at 4:16 PM

    Bl&Br

    Your cut and paste bio of Churchill by 1953-5 takes nothing from my point. By the age of 80-81 he certainly was geriatric – and accepting that the Tories couldnlt reverse th Atlee govenrment’s reforms casts no nasturtiums. The zeitgeist wouldn’t have let any Tory PM do that.

    My point is that you need to separate poor judgement from age related loss of critical thnking skills.
    You simply have put things down to age which are nothing of the sort.
    I’d bet I’m at least 15 years older than you are. I have arthritis in both hips which has limited my mountaineering expeditions in rececnt years, but being over 50 didn’t stop me doing 6 hr solo watches on a Transat.

  • 54 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 30, 2016 at 4:16 PM

    Only problem with HBA is he come back looking like the incredible hulk, he had put so much weight on

  • 55 angelswithdirtyfaces // Jan 30, 2016 at 4:17 PM

    though my typos are getting worse :0

  • 56 TomaKaThor // Jan 30, 2016 at 4:18 PM

    Do you live under a rock?

  • 57 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 30, 2016 at 4:19 PM

    Lets face it Carr is over the hill and past it his finds are getting worse and worse, time to let him retire

  • 58 hibbitt // Jan 30, 2016 at 4:19 PM

    angelswithdirtyfaces
    whats a transat ????

  • 59 Ron Knee // Jan 30, 2016 at 4:26 PM

    Enter Joey Barton.

  • 60 hibbitt // Jan 30, 2016 at 4:26 PM

    TomaKaThor
    take it thats aim at me no i dont i live in yarm………..i am a season ticket hold and i can tell you honestly he gets no abuse at games even on days he should the kid gets 100% support

  • 61 BandB // Jan 30, 2016 at 4:26 PM

    Bl&Ber?

  • 62 the broons // Jan 30, 2016 at 4:26 PM

    Off subject but filipe luis has just been shown a straight red card in athletico game.

    Perhaps they may want to keep siquera now after all?

  • 63 toon kk // Jan 30, 2016 at 4:30 PM

    What is can’t understand is why MASH sticks with Carr, he should have been shown the door along time ago, or is MA a far bigger influence than we think. He obviously thought there was a great chance of potential profit to be made on players.
    Total lack of knowledge and knowhow within the club. It takes a relegation threat to give them the kick up the arse they need.
    Let’s hope it isn’t too late.

  • 64 why oh why // Jan 30, 2016 at 4:36 PM

    Tbf
    Why we signed him in the first place I never know
    We should have persevered with Cabella
    But then again I would have Townsend over both all day.
    Doumbia is in talks also aswell as left back and gomis.
    Can’t wait for the next match
    Come on the toon

  • 65 hibbitt // Jan 30, 2016 at 4:39 PM

    why oh why
    Go-miss in talks who told you that??

  • 66 stephen1971 // Jan 30, 2016 at 4:39 PM

    wake up newcastle, these french clubs and carr are making you a laughing stock, big buys then 1/2 price loan with option fees, beyond beleif, holds head in hands

    charnley out

  • 67 Ian Toon // Jan 30, 2016 at 4:43 PM

    That’s pushed the price up.!

  • 68 toon kk // Jan 30, 2016 at 4:43 PM

    Berahino scores again

  • 69 firebug666 // Jan 30, 2016 at 4:48 PM

    I think this means Berahino will be staying where he is.

  • 70 reilly // Jan 30, 2016 at 4:51 PM

    read this the other day about what is going on at west brom and Berahino,theres a bit in there that had me thinking why carr uses 1 french agency.win win for old carr

    http://www.thesecretfootballer.com/articles/the-secret-footballer/29898/strange-case-of-star-player-caught-in-middle-of-chairman-manager-transfer-standoff/

  • 71 GeordieTwo // Jan 30, 2016 at 4:51 PM

    Getting close to the end now. No more signings Lee? Feeling confident are we? Ready to explain what happened to the boss if we go down? How about you Graham?

  • 72 TroubledToon // Jan 30, 2016 at 4:53 PM

    After the Cabella debacle, we actually go ahead and sign a non functional Cabella prototype.
    Good riddance. Now hopefully Carr is next on the Fcuk Off List!!

  • 73 Online Guy // Jan 30, 2016 at 4:55 PM

    If you look to the right of the picture , just above Thauvins horizontal left arm, not directly mind , but in your peripheral vision ,

    You can see the face of Jackie Milburn . !

  • 74 BandB // Jan 30, 2016 at 5:06 PM

    20-1 on with one bookmaker.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/loic-remy-to-leicester-city-chelsea-accept-115m-offer-for-france-striker-a6843271.html

  • 75 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 30, 2016 at 5:13 PM

    Betty…I rate him as a very expensive player with an attitude! That attitude can either be used for good or bad!

  • 76 Tsunki // Jan 30, 2016 at 5:15 PM

    “Fickle Fans” I love that one. I wonder who invented it? Fickle fans are the poison of this club, they make players lose pace, skill, vision and desire to work for the team. Fickle fans should be ashamed of themselves! 🙁

  • 77 angelswithdirtyfaces // Jan 30, 2016 at 5:15 PM

    Hibbitt

    Transatlantic sailing voyage (not a cruise ship !!)

  • 78 GeordieTwo // Jan 30, 2016 at 5:16 PM

    Fear the fickle fan! Ashley has always known we are to blame for everything. He’s the model owner after all.

  • 79 GeordieTwo // Jan 30, 2016 at 5:17 PM

    Mike would never tell porkies or hire idiots after all….. Harrumph.

  • 80 angelswithdirtyfaces // Jan 30, 2016 at 5:17 PM

    B&B To distinguish from your good self

    Bl& Br = Blackley and Browmlie

  • 81 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 30, 2016 at 5:19 PM

    Isn’t it just ad easy to write BandB as B&B?

  • 82 BandB // Jan 30, 2016 at 5:19 PM

    Angels

    I was wondering what your typo was.
    I thought maybe you’d misspelled Blabber.
    Or Blabbermouth.

  • 83 cyprus // Jan 30, 2016 at 5:19 PM

    L Robert at 52
    Totally agree. A real shame.

  • 84 GeordieTwo // Jan 30, 2016 at 5:19 PM

    We can’t even get players to come to us on loan. Do we destroy some players who come to us? The record seems to indicate it happens sometimes.

  • 85 GeordieTwo // Jan 30, 2016 at 5:21 PM

    I actually think Cabella could have become a decent Prem player. But possibly not with us.

  • 86 GeordieTwo // Jan 30, 2016 at 5:22 PM

    Come on Mike speak to us! Share your brilliant plans for the future of the club. Put your liars hat on and get Larry and Curly together and give us a good story…..

  • 87 GeordieTwo // Jan 30, 2016 at 5:25 PM

    I’m getting a bit nervous now. We only have 19 midfielders on the books…. Is that enough? Is there such a thing as enough midfielders? I shouldn’t think so. Graham! Please go and scout some French midfielders for us before it’s too late…..

  • 88 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 30, 2016 at 5:26 PM

    Angels
    You brought up Churchill and his final term in office. In doing so, you made my point for me.

    You say, “My point is that you need to separate poor judgement from age related loss of critical thnking skills. You simply have put things down to age which are nothing of the sort.”

    First, when has Carr shown good judgment consistently in any period of his life? Second, Carr is of an age when your critical thinking skills wane. Third, if you’re only in your fifties, you may well not have noticed the onset.

    What’s your explanation for Carr’s increasingly poor performance?

  • 89 belgrade fan // Jan 30, 2016 at 5:28 PM

    so what is last update about our 2 LBs?? macca is old fashioned dinosaur manager, who wants players like Dummettt, he should be first to go out

  • 90 The American // Jan 30, 2016 at 5:29 PM

    Correction Ed, Newcastle and the fans gave up on him too soon.

  • 91 GeordieTwo // Jan 30, 2016 at 5:29 PM

    I can answer that Blackley. As official Blog Doc I know the answer. My prescription is to sign two more French midfielders and call me in the morning……

  • 92 Ian Toon // Jan 30, 2016 at 5:30 PM

    Payet the man that Carr missed

  • 93 Jib // Jan 30, 2016 at 5:30 PM

    José Enriqué on the bench v Wet Spam

  • 94 bettyswallocks // Jan 30, 2016 at 5:32 PM

    Jesper….. Fair assessment. See , you can be original when you put your mind to it.

  • 95 Tsunki // Jan 30, 2016 at 5:32 PM

    it’s fickle fans that have used the pathetic excuse of a mere 8 years of declining quality and ambition leading to relegation-standard football as the tarry broom to unfairly brush Michael with as an indifferent delegator. The sweeping allegations of him being a money-hungry-hippo who only buys to keep himself swimming in the glorious wallow of TV money are another sad indicator of the slanderous supporters we suffer.

  • 96 Tsunki // Jan 30, 2016 at 5:33 PM

    The American – I think you’ll find Thauvin gave up first.

  • 97 Tsunki // Jan 30, 2016 at 5:34 PM

    – I believe it’s a national trait…

  • 98 Tsunki // Jan 30, 2016 at 5:34 PM

    …only kidding, fellow xenophobes 😀

  • 99 bettyswallocks // Jan 30, 2016 at 5:35 PM

    We re still 11-4 to sign Bera. Seems very good value to me. I still think we ll get him Fingers crossed.

  • 100 GeordieTwo // Jan 30, 2016 at 5:36 PM

    List of Lee Charnley’s excuses to Ashley if we go down:
    1. I had the sniffles for the whole season Mike.
    2. Also I had an ingrown toenail and a narsty rash in an awkward place.
    3. None of the other Managing Directors would answer the phone when I called them.
    4. My mother in law came to stay with us and kept calling me a tw@t.
    5. I lost Joe Kinnear’s phone number.

  • 101 Jib // Jan 30, 2016 at 5:37 PM

    Blackley
    The proprietor of this blog is approaching 80 and I can say without fear of contradiction that in most intellectual endeavours especially the internet he leaves you standing.

  • 102 Macas // Jan 30, 2016 at 5:38 PM

    Ian Toon – I’m pretty sure Carr knew all about Payet, but he didn’t fit into the age range of players we go for. That’s the club’s policy at fault, not Carr.

  • 103 GeordieTwo // Jan 30, 2016 at 5:41 PM

    Or possibly Carr mentioned Payet and Charnley thought he said Poyet and scoffed….

  • 104 Ron Knee // Jan 30, 2016 at 5:41 PM

    Tsunki

    I once heard a woman in a French bar proclaim: ‘I’m not a racist. I’m a xenophobe.’

  • 105 GeordieTwo // Jan 30, 2016 at 5:43 PM

    Lee Charnley’s mother in law talking to her beloved son in law:
    “Well you tw@t, have you signed anybody decent yet?”

  • 106 GeordieTwo // Jan 30, 2016 at 5:45 PM

    19 midfielders…. What other club would try to get through a season with only 19 midfielders……

  • 107 GeordieTwo // Jan 30, 2016 at 5:47 PM

    What is the correct striker: midfielder ratio anyway Lee? Is 19:3 considered optimal?

  • 108 reilly // Jan 30, 2016 at 5:47 PM

    carr and sir alex ferguson are the same age.
    age means nowt.

  • 109 JackButler // Jan 30, 2016 at 5:48 PM

    Toon kk

    Agree the fans should not have booed him as it isn’t his fault he can’t produce match winning performances, but anger and frustration has a funny way of presenting itself on times

  • 110 GeordieTwo // Jan 30, 2016 at 5:52 PM

    That’s midfielder:striker ratio of course. And average age for strikers in a relegation battle? Let’s see our fit strikers have an average age of 22 and a total Prem experience of 75 appearances with 19 goals. Ahhhh, excellent Lee……

  • 111 GeordieTwo // Jan 30, 2016 at 5:53 PM

    Why that’s 1 goal every 4 matches between the two of them Lee. No problem at all then……

  • 112 toon kk // Jan 30, 2016 at 5:54 PM

    It’s quite simple really, Carr was set oot to scout French players, not for the best but with possible potential, if the price was right that’s all Mash considered, yep a few came through and made Mash a few quid or they did us a job. But most flopped leaving us with the biggest squad of relegation candidates.
    But it’s taken the threat of relegation for the club with some help from Macca to make a difference on policy. But the regime is still in the background, taking those risks, and because of the excess money involved it’s certainly making a mockery of the club.

  • 113 Jib // Jan 30, 2016 at 5:56 PM

    The parallels between Hatem ben Arfa and Payet are eerie.
    Although Francophones and now French citizens they were both born outside of France.
    Payet was born on Réunion in the Indian Ocean near Mauritius (so was Laurent Robert another “enfant terriblé” )
    He had a difficult early career having his contract with Le Havre cancelled and being sent back to Réunion . At both Nantes and Marseilles he had big run ins with management.
    He and HbA are a year apart in age (almost exactly they both have March birthdays )
    Both are now shoo ins for the French national squad.
    Both clearly late developers

  • 114 GeordieTwo // Jan 30, 2016 at 5:58 PM

    What do our board discuss when they get together do you lot think? Where they’re going for their next holiday? What they’re going to tell Mike when we get relegated? How they all knew we should have signed a proper CB and striker but just couldn’t get them over the line? It’s a puzzle…..

  • 115 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 30, 2016 at 6:01 PM

    Reilly
    You make my point. SAF is no longer running Man Utd and hasn’t been for some time. Why? He was a great manager. Why change?

  • 116 JackButler // Jan 30, 2016 at 6:03 PM

    G2

    They probably have brain storming sessions to come up with excuses as to why they have committed the same bloody mistakes they have for years.

    You have to have a creative imagination if you work for the clubs PR team

  • 117 reilly // Jan 30, 2016 at 6:04 PM

    feruson retired because the time was right.
    fergie if he wanted could walk right back into manu tomorrow and get them up the table sharpish.do you think he couldnt do that because of his age.

  • 118 GeordieTwo // Jan 30, 2016 at 6:04 PM

    The 76M pounds or so that we’ve spent in the last 2 windows is a very handsome amount indeed. But was it focused on our real needs? I would have brought in Shelvey but the rest was a complete waste. It should have been spent on a top striker, a top CB and a very good LB. Surely that could have been done with 64M pounds?

  • 119 GeordieTwo // Jan 30, 2016 at 6:05 PM

    I’m sure that’s the case JackButler mate. Excuses are the club’s main expertise.

  • 120 reilly // Jan 30, 2016 at 6:08 PM

    warren buffett is 85 and 1 of the richest men in the world and still going strong.

  • 121 welshgeordie9 // Jan 30, 2016 at 6:09 PM

    i can’t see a forward coming in to be honest.

  • 122 toon kk // Jan 30, 2016 at 6:10 PM

    G2
    I can just see MA explaining to Pardew, don’t forget to tell everyone we just couldn’t get them over the line.
    As we wait atm on possible signings Mash is explaining the ritual “listen Macca don’t forget the We couldn’t get them over the line speach”” I’m sure the fans will understand”.

  • 123 GeordieTwo // Jan 30, 2016 at 6:11 PM

    Any half decent MD could have sorted us out years ago. That leads me to the conclusion we haven’t had a half decent MD in quite some time. Hmmm. Let’s check the list: Derek Llambeezee, Joe Kinnear, Lee Charnley. Ahhh. Now I see the problem.

  • 124 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 30, 2016 at 6:13 PM

    Jib @ 102
    What a silly statement. You know jack shit about me so how can you say anything about my achievements? What I know about you is that you know jack shit about football but it doesn’t stop you making vacuous observations.

    Of course Ed will know more about the Internet than I’ll ever know. But I don’t imagine if he’s 80 that he’ll be at the top of his game by any means or in the high powered job he was in earlier in his life. But if you know more, let’s hear it.

  • 125 GeordieTwo // Jan 30, 2016 at 6:13 PM

    Yes that will be very helpful indeed when we go down toon kk mate. It’s hard to believe Ashley is this thick. It’s hard to believe he has hired the people we see running the club. But there you have it.

  • 126 angelswithdirtyfaces // Jan 30, 2016 at 6:16 PM

    Bl&Br

    My father died at 83 a few years ago – of a coronary.
    At no time had he any loss of his intelligence or any critical faculties – he was still doing the brain gym of completing crosswords and hard sudokus up to a couple of weeks before he died. He was still sharp as a tack.

    You are still making the same mistake of confusing competence with age. I do not know how you can twist my argument into the opposite. That is a straw man argument.

    Carr may or may not have been a great scout in the past, but he recruited Wini, Mbemba and Mitro during the same window as Thauvin, who I agree was a mistake. Scouting is not a precise art in any case. There is no 100% record for a scout.
    So he had a 75% hit rate only five months ago. If his critical faculties had deteriorated that much due to age then he would have probably picked three duds and got one good un by chance.

    When you get past 60 (or 70 or 80) your age doesn’t suddenly become your IQ – any more than your shoe size correlates with any other part of your anatomy.

    Just because people like Billy Connolly has Parkinson’s doesn’t mean his wit and humour will deteriorate along with his muscular control. Not everybody gets Alzheimers where the end game does involve memory loss etc.,

    I wish I still was in my 50s btw.

  • 127 GeordieTwo // Jan 30, 2016 at 6:16 PM

    Mike Ashley glancing at the paper while having breakfast:
    Newcastle United in turmoil. Sitting in 18th place with 15 games to go. Money wasted on useless transfers….. etc. etc.
    Mike thinks to himself “Hmmmm. I really should do something about that…..” wipes the dribble off his chin and continues to the business section…..

  • 128 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 30, 2016 at 6:27 PM

    You’ve got to laugh. Graham Carr being compared to Winston Churchill, Sir Alex Ferguson, Warren Buffett and Ed. As if these people were at the peak of their powers in their 70s and were just getting better and better. You couldn’t make it up. Jib knows more about Ed’s biography so I’ll wait to hear more on that one.

  • 129 reilly // Jan 30, 2016 at 6:30 PM

    we are comparing the age not the man.

  • 130 Mister Tuff // Jan 30, 2016 at 6:30 PM

    Hahahahahahahahahaha.

    I knew it wouldn’t be long before Jib Jibberish made another gaffe – I predicted so and he hasn’t let me down – the latest blunder :-
    “Jib // Jan 30, 2016 at 5:56 PM
    The parallels between Hatem ben Arfa and Payet are eerie.
    Although Francophones and now French citizens they were both born outside of France.”

    Jib old bean – not true Benny was born at Clamart – south west outskirts of Paris and raised at Châtenay-Malabry also on the south western outskirts of Paris.

    Paris in the capital of France – unless it has recently moved. DUH.

  • 131 Jib // Jan 30, 2016 at 6:32 PM

    welshgeordie9 // Jan 30, 2016 at 6:09 PM

    i can’t see a forward coming in to be honest

    Which way are you facing ?
    He could be coming from another direction
    😀

  • 132 jazzyp // Jan 30, 2016 at 6:33 PM

    Newcastle & Aston Villa are in talks for Marseille target Seydou Doumbia, talks with Fenerbahce failed, according to @DiMarzio.GFN#2hr

  • 133 Ian Toon // Jan 30, 2016 at 6:34 PM

    Macas- The club policy. Yer right.! I actually don’t agree.
    Carr should have made the case for an exception ? Dimitri Payet cost West Ham £ 10.7 m from Marseille. Whilst Thauvin cost £12 m from Marseille. Don’t you think he could have made a very strong case for an exceptional talent. It’s what Scouts who are prepared to back their judgment do.
    West Ham scouts and Leicester scouts have found some real nuggets and done a great job.

    Blackley- interesting and funny comparison between Churchill and Graham Carr. It’s surely a case of whether an individual can fulfil the task expected and targets required. Personally I preferred the Boris Johnson version a lot less pages.

  • 134 Mister Tuff // Jan 30, 2016 at 6:35 PM

    Plenty on here I would imagine would have little regard for age in certain circumstances.
    Get the beer goggles on and off to grab a granny.

  • 135 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 30, 2016 at 6:37 PM

    I worked in London back on 2001 and as many foreigners I had read a xenophobe’s guide to english. I think most people who travel for an extended time reads those for kicks

    Most things are nothing but a generalization or a myth. But the xenophobic treat among alot of Brits were definitely not a myth. I still have alot of English friends and would want to be without ’em!

    I could do without you Belfast though!

  • 136 Jib // Jan 30, 2016 at 6:37 PM

    Mr Tuff
    His mother actually went back to Tunis for the birth . Under French law then , North Africans had a 3 month period of grace for registering their children.

    http://www.algeriemesracines.com/pratique/associations-pieds-noirs-tunisie.php

    Read the above and give me your summary in not more than 600 words.

  • 137 Jail for Ashley // Jan 30, 2016 at 6:45 PM

    Are we going to have to listen to Ian and carl saying “yer right” from now on, because that will prove that they’re not the same person ????

  • 138 Macas // Jan 30, 2016 at 6:46 PM

    Ian Toon – How do you know he didn’t make a very strong case to sign him? At the end of the day though the club have a set plolicy on signings, and it’s only when we are in dire trouble as we are now that it seems they are likely to relax that policy.

  • 139 Bambams // Jan 30, 2016 at 6:50 PM

    All the rumours on Twitter have Gomis look likely.
    Not chuffed at all

  • 140 reilly // Jan 30, 2016 at 6:50 PM

    report out of france tonight is that the gomis deal is almost done.

  • 141 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Jan 30, 2016 at 6:52 PM

    “I can’t see myself going back (to Roma)” he told Jeune Afrique in October.

    “Even though I still have a two-year contract, I think we’ll come to an agreement.

    “It went wrong for me. The fans started whistling me from the first game and it didn’t stop until I left.

    “The coach made me play when I had just returned from the Africa Cup of Nations and I don’t think I was ready.”

    Doumbia on Roma !!

  • 142 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 30, 2016 at 6:53 PM

    Angels
    One of my favourite people of all time was Tony Benn. I sat ouside the Sage with him and chewed the cud not too long ago. He was still sharp and it was a pleasure to hear him speak. However, he was at the height of his powers as a minister.

    It’s simply a biological fact. Our powers and abilities wane as we get older. It’s not just physical powers; footballers having to retire in their 30s. Most of us die in our 70s and 80s. Our body wastes, our brain shrinks and our memory fails.

  • 143 Jail for Ashley // Jan 30, 2016 at 6:54 PM

    Macas,
    Mashers has spent a few quid but I can’t bring myself to say fair play to him as we have seen this before when in trouble, it was three transfer windows that we saw another player come in after that, good football or signings is what puts bums on seats.

  • 144 Jail for Ashley // Jan 30, 2016 at 6:56 PM

    Oh no, are we going to be treat to a Blackas rant on age deterioration. A three day, four or five day rant, it’s up to you folks.

  • 145 Hail Wor Ashley // Jan 30, 2016 at 7:00 PM

    JfA seems to be under the impression the blog is his space.

  • 146 Jail for Ashley // Jan 30, 2016 at 7:02 PM

    Hi Ian,
    No, just a contributor like most others !

  • 147 beermonkey // Jan 30, 2016 at 7:02 PM

    JAIL

    3-5 days that’s far better than the pards headbutt debate that went on an age

  • 148 geordie157 // Jan 30, 2016 at 7:04 PM

    So of all the strikers we’ve been linked with, Berahino, Lacazette, Batshuyai, Austin, Rhodes, Doumbia, Dost to name a few…..I really hope we aren’t going to go sign Gomis!!!

  • 149 Jib // Jan 30, 2016 at 7:05 PM

    West Ham defending !!!!!!!
    omg

  • 150 reilly // Jan 30, 2016 at 7:08 PM

    last one.
    from age 66 to 72 — Buffett’s net worth more than doubled. His net worth at 72 years old was listed at a whopping $35.7 billion.

    not bad for someone that is ment to be loosing his marbles at that age.

  • 151 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 30, 2016 at 7:08 PM

    Ian/Jail
    I’m just waiting for them to compare Graham Carr to Albert Einstein.

  • 152 jazzyp // Jan 30, 2016 at 7:10 PM

    Bambams

    Me neither mate.
    Out of all the signings we have made, This has got to be the most uninspiring transfer this January. I just don’t get what he will add in any shape or form.
    Cisse will be back soon I think within the next few week, So why bother signing a like for like player.

  • 153 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 30, 2016 at 7:11 PM

    When Tony Benn was a minister, you wouldn’t have found him sitting wrapped up in a blanket on a freezing night on the banks of the Tyne talking to old Blackley.

  • 154 Mister Tuff // Jan 30, 2016 at 7:11 PM

    Jib Jibberish – feeble attempt re Bennys’ birthplace.
    Whatever feeble link you posted as to French Tunisians – has got nothing to do with the argument -Benny was born on the outskirts of Paris not in Tunisia.
    If you are so convinced his mother went back to Tunisia – please supply a link/ evidence please.

    I fear I’ll be waiting a long time – just confess you made a gaffe and you just posted your previous link in a last ditch effort to save face.
    Come on come on don’t be shy.

  • 155 Jail for Ashley // Jan 30, 2016 at 7:12 PM

    beer,
    Not ‘alf as bad as the due dilligence one that ran for the same 😀

  • 156 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 30, 2016 at 7:12 PM

    I think this song was written for a few posters in here:

    https://youtu.be/hnzHtm1jhL4

  • 157 Jib // Jan 30, 2016 at 7:12 PM

    http://www.le10sport.com/football/mercato/exclu-mercato-bafe-gomis-tout-proche-de-newcastle-220602

  • 158 sobadithurts // Jan 30, 2016 at 7:15 PM

    GeordieTwo:
    You are a complete idiot. Please leave this blog asap as you are embarrassing yourself.
    Goodbye.

  • 159 jazzyp // Jan 30, 2016 at 7:15 PM

    Loïc Rémy set to join Leicester on loan without an option to buy – the latest http://bit.ly/1SiH3G7

  • 160 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 30, 2016 at 7:17 PM

    Charlie Harper is in his 70s and going strong. The UK Subs have done the A to Z of albums and I’ve just pledged for Ziezo. But nothing will be as good as the first, “Another Kind of Blues”.

  • 161 Jail for Ashley // Jan 30, 2016 at 7:17 PM

    jazzyp,
    That’ll be the end of that then!

  • 162 Jail for Ashley // Jan 30, 2016 at 7:18 PM

    sobadithurts,
    Geordie Two has been posting long before you showed your name !

  • 163 Jib // Jan 30, 2016 at 7:18 PM

    Bastia vs Lyon on BT and Lacazette is playing

  • 164 sobadithurts // Jan 30, 2016 at 7:20 PM

    Jail:
    So what he’s still a prime muppet.

  • 165 Jib // Jan 30, 2016 at 7:21 PM

    Jail for Ashley // Jan 30, 2016 at 7:18 PM
    sobadithurts,
    Geordie Two has been posting long before you showed your name !

    That’s the problem

    You pricks think you own the blog

    You’ve been posting shit for ages .

  • 166 angelswithdirtyfaces // Jan 30, 2016 at 7:21 PM

    Bl&Br

    I’d argue that Benn wasn’t that great a minister, and was actually at the peak of his powers, mentally, after he retired and could develop his thinking and attitudes.

    Career wise some people peak in their 30s and 40s, others are wiped out before they are 30 – including some footballers – but some people mature with age like a good cheese or fine wine.
    Mental decline in your 50s is not an inevitable fact.
    It’s no accident that many people don’t ‘peak’ until their 60s – including scientists, some in business, and the judiciary. Some painters, sculptors and musicians do their best work in their 80s – because it takes so long to master their art. Same for jazzmen – if they survive that long.
    There are no hard and fast rules.

    As far as Carr is concerned I suspect his purple period is fading.

  • 167 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Jan 30, 2016 at 7:22 PM

    Anyone worried we are not going to get anyone else in?

  • 168 Jail for Ashley // Jan 30, 2016 at 7:23 PM

    Jibberish,
    Give it another year and you’ll have been posting shit for ages instead of just a few months.

  • 169 Jail for Ashley // Jan 30, 2016 at 7:25 PM

    sobadithurts,
    He’s hardly an offensive poster, if you don’t like what he writes don’t read it.

  • 170 jazzyp // Jan 30, 2016 at 7:27 PM

    Lee charnley

    I was hoping to have more news on Doumbia by now pal. A lot of reports indicating a deal was going to be struck with his entourage over the next 24-48 hrs.
    Sadly the only link today is Go-miss, Which I find hard to see what this guy will offer us, and is way out of our usual transfer policy

  • 171 AncientC // Jan 30, 2016 at 7:28 PM

    ‘Tis always interesting to read some esoteric ramblings. Apparently it is perfectly acceptable to mock Graham Carr for being on the borderline of Alzheimer’s, because most of us face the same roulette fate.

    A little digging into what science has in its armamentarium – then you find out that Alzheimer’s will be cured within the next 10 years, and that puts a different spin on things.

    I blame Carr for not drinking the elixir of life.

  • 172 Jib // Jan 30, 2016 at 7:28 PM

    Just picked at random from the past.
    Like a broken record.

    Jail for Ashley // Dec 19, 2012 at 9:47 AM

    Carter,
    This five year plan malarky sounds good in theory but I believe it is getting made up week by week if not on a daily basis.

  • 173 sobadithurts // Jan 30, 2016 at 7:29 PM

    Thanks for the advice Jail. Hadn’t thought of that!

  • 174 Mister Tuff // Jan 30, 2016 at 7:30 PM

    Jib Jibberish – clearly getting rattled – cannot take the heat.
    Jib – if you want I can provide a link to Bennys’ official website where it states he was born in Paris.
    Unless you know otherwise.
    Clearly you know more about Bennys’ birthplace than he does.
    Confess – get it off your chest -you were wrong (again).
    Repeat these words after a deep breath “I am a dunderhead”.

    He’s on the run – release the hounds!
    High Five!

  • 175 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 30, 2016 at 7:30 PM

    Leave G2 alone he’s one of the funniest and most proactive posters on here. He’s not offensive like some of the wums/multiples/idiots on here!!!

  • 176 jazzyp // Jan 30, 2016 at 7:32 PM

    Gomis has reportedly been unsettled in Wales for several months and Newcastle are so keen to add some firepower to their squad, they are even willing to tear up one of their main rules of their transfer policy.

    Newcastle have previously avoided signing anyone over the age of 28 as they do not have any resale value, but Telegraph Sport understands they are prepared to make an exception for Gomis because head coach Steve McClaren has stressed the need for another striker in this window.

    The 30-year-old wages are a problem as he earns more than £60,000-a-week at Swansea, but negotiations are ongoing and there is a good chance the transfer will go through in the next 48 hours.

    With 18-months of Premier League experience, Gomis is particularly attractive to the Magpies as he will be able to go straight into the first team.

  • 177 catchy in norway // Jan 30, 2016 at 7:33 PM

    Wahbi Khazri’s sunderlands new player is a good player,, i would have signed him

  • 178 Jail for Ashley // Jan 30, 2016 at 7:33 PM

    Jibberish,
    I remember that comment fondly !

  • 179 Jail for Ashley // Jan 30, 2016 at 7:35 PM

    I’d take Gomis on loan till the end of the season.

  • 180 Jib // Jan 30, 2016 at 7:36 PM

    Mr Tuff
    Go on then , post a link to Benny’s official website

  • 181 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 30, 2016 at 7:39 PM

    The brain’s ability to function can start to deteriorate as early as 45, suggests a study in the British Medical Journal.

    University College London researchers found a 3.6% decline in mental reasoning in women and men aged 45-49.

    They assessed the memory, vocabulary and comprehension skills of 7,000 men and women aged 45 to 70 over 10 years.

    The Alzheimer’s Society said research was needed into how changes in the brain could help dementia diagnoses.

    Previous research had suggested that cognitive decline does not begin much before the age of 60.

    But the results of this study show that it could in fact begin in middle age.

  • 182 bladeuser // Jan 30, 2016 at 7:43 PM

    what is the point in signing gomiss he is pants dropping mitro for a top class striker until he gets used to playing in the epl is a must but not for this muppet thete r much better strikers out there as proven by other teams bringing a striker in u cannot tell me all the strikers in world football and that useless spotter Carr cannot find anybody better than gomiss he has already wasted millions on French flops
    ASH OUT SMAC OUT COLO OUT SHEEP ? OUT

  • 183 jazzyp // Jan 30, 2016 at 7:44 PM

    According to the Daily Mail, Premier League side Swansea have received a loan offer from Marseille for Portuguese striker Eder.

    The nature of the offer is a loan until the end of the season with an option to buy worth £5m, according to the report.

    Swansea also have offers on the table for Bafe Gomis from the PL and abroad, But at the present moment due to there perilous position near the foot of the table, Can they afford to lose any ??

  • 184 Jail for Ashley // Jan 30, 2016 at 7:44 PM

    Jibberish, someone like you shouldn’t be dragging up the past.
    Jib // Oct 19, 2015 at 10:08 PM

    Tsunki it was Ba you mongoloid

    I won’t go in to some of the bile you posted as jeff from Benwell

  • 185 sparky55 // Jan 30, 2016 at 7:45 PM

    So much going on, so much to talk about and yet we still have the children having pathetic little spats and throwing dummies out all over the place.

    Get a grip lads

  • 186 Jail for Ashley // Jan 30, 2016 at 7:47 PM

    sparky,
    What is going on, a lot of talk so far, but not much happening.

  • 187 beermonkey // Jan 30, 2016 at 7:52 PM

    jazzy

    would rather we stuck with mitro than gomiss
    I really cant see the club breaking the no over 26/27 rule
    so i hope its all paper talk

    today was shaping up to be an interesting day with the other striker and left back
    thought they might be having medicals this weekend and in by mon or tues

  • 188 Ian Toon // Jan 30, 2016 at 7:56 PM

    Macas – West Ham signed him in June. Just as we signed Cabaye in June 2011. Carr had a lot to prove back then and he allowed West Ham to steal a march. Spurs and West Ham both went under the radar and Carr took his eye off the ball. With responsibity comes accountability.
    Why not appoint a youngish 40 year old like Sherwood of 50 year old like Hoddle. Spurs have an older David Pleaf who is an excellent Judge of a player and he has built up a vast scouting network I. A little over a season and a half.

  • 189 sparky55 // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:00 PM

    For the first time a long time we’ve got a first team 11 that doesn’t pick itself, we’ve definitely got another striker coming in, and we’ve definitely got another defender coming in, possibly two.

    We tried a 532 against Watford or was it a 352 and that was before Townsend joined….is this the way he’s going like liverpool did last year before they sacked their manager?

    Are we going to play Sissoko and Townsend in the same team as wide men with Shlevet, Saivet and Colback in the middle with janmaat, Mbemba and Colo at the back and if yes where does janmaat fit in the team, where does Mitro fit in if we get another striker, where does Perez fit in?

    Howay man lads…more stuff there to think about as opposed to where the fcuk a player that left us over a year ago was born FFS.

  • 190 jazzyp // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:02 PM

    Beermonkey

    I was happy in the hope Doumbia was heading to Nufc yesterday. An international left back was coming in and I thought this transfer window was looking like being a roaring success.
    Today however we are back to Gomis, And I just fail to see the point in this signing. he cannot hold a regular starting berth at Swansea and has not set the PL alive, So why will he do it with us ?
    Our only hope is they accept a bid from Marseille for there other forward.. Eder

  • 191 Macas // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:07 PM

    Ian Toon – I’m not sure what your point is, Carr is responsible for scouting players of a certain age to fit into our transfer model. I’m not saying he has done his job particularly well lately but we were never likely to sign Payet because of his age. Even if our specific transfer policy didn’t exist, there are 20 clubs in the Premiership all looking for players, you can’t expect us to pick up every good player ahead of all the other clubs in the league. The main worry about Carr is some of the players we have been bringing in recently, not the players we haven’t. Thauvin has looked out of place, and for me Mitrovic still has a lot to prove. The majority of posters on here are slagging off Gomis, but he has a better goalscoring record than Mitrovic this season.

  • 192 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:08 PM

    *well that should have read wouldn’t want to be without ’em 😉

  • 193 beermonkey // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:09 PM

    jazzy

    seems to me Swansea are cashing out already sold us shelvy trying to offload gomis and sunderland were trying to get ayew I bet a deal could have been done there

    gomis is one deal I hope we don’t break any of our rules for and he don’t come in

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    The Magpies are not finished there, however, with Steve McClaren desperate to add a striker to his squad to take advantage of the new supply line.

    PIERRE-MICHEL LASOGGA

    Saido Berahino, Alexandre Lacazette, Loic Remy, Bafetimbi Gomis and Jordan Rhodes have all been linked with a move to St. James’ Park, yet it could well be Pierre-Michel Lasogga who walks through the doors on Monday.

    Since moving to Hamburg, initially on loan, at the beginning of the 2013/14 season, the 24-year-old has established himself as a key figure for the Bundesliga team

  • 195 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:10 PM

    Isn’t the biggest beef with Carr and the model that if they scout players to fit a certain model or philosophy then they don’t appoint a manager that fit that model?

  • 196 jazzyp // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:10 PM

    Whoops don’t know what happened then lol

  • 197 belgrade fan // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:10 PM

    What is last information about LB position???

  • 198 Mister Tuff // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:11 PM

    Jib Jibberish – look and learn.
    (still waiting for your evidence/links to say he wasn’t born where he says he was)

    http://officiel-hatem-benarfa.skyrock.com/2496754077-Biographie-Hatem-Ben-Arfa.html

    Hatem Ben Arfa est un footballeur professionnel français né le 7 mars 1987 à Clamart (Hauts-de-Seine), né dans une famille tunisienne originaire de Tunis. Il mesure 1m80 pour 74 kg. Il évolue à l’Olympique de Marseille.

    Translation :-
    Hatem Ben Arfa is a French professional footballer born on the 7th March 1987 in Clamart (Hauts-de-Seine), born into a Tunisisian family from Tunis.

  • 199 Jib // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:11 PM

    Jazzy P
    Beermonkey

    This is why the Winter window is so shyte the media are all over every deal like a rash and it is so easy to hijack deals
    Guillem Balague one minute is telling us what a good fit the Atletico lb will be.
    Two hours later Gary Neville (who worked with Balague at Sky) has our deal screwed.
    FFS

  • 200 Mister Tuff // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:12 PM

    note did not translate the last sentence.

  • 201 Jib // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:14 PM

    Mr Tuff his birth is registered in Paris .
    It took place in Tunis I assure you .

  • 202 JackButler // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:15 PM

    Watching Bastia v Lyon and it’s like watching two good championship clubs playing, but playing at a slower pace

  • 203 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:15 PM

    I can’t stand Gomis’ goal celebration. I’m not a fan of modern goal celebrations but his is cringeworthy. Nearly as bad as clubs playing a ditty when their team scores.

  • 204 Belfast // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:17 PM

    Well it looks like we’re desperate and running out of options.

  • 205 Belfast // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:19 PM

    Me neither Blackley it’s just weird. Is he meant to be a wild dog or something?

  • 206 doofa the loofa // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:19 PM

    Someone get jackb some tissues please..

  • 207 belgrade fan // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:19 PM

    guillem balague reckons Valencia wants to sell Orban but we want him on loan

  • 208 Nufc-83 // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:22 PM

    For me Gomis is currently better than mitro as he does similar physical work but has the pace to get in behind also and links well with shelvey however seems to have similar finishing ability to mitro. Is he worth 7mill tho at his age hell no!! Do I care if he improves the team hell no!!

  • 209 reilly // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:23 PM

    Pierre-Michel Lasogga
    we are linked with this lad every window.

  • 210 doofa the loofa // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:23 PM

    11m for remy.. bs imho

  • 211 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:25 PM

    See thats Norwich signed Bamford as well

  • 212 manxpie // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:25 PM

    jazzy i think you might have a gambling problem seek help lol

  • 213 reilly // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:26 PM

    Get French Football
    ?@GFN_France

    An agreement is said to be in place in principle for the loan of Seydou Doumbia to Newcastle

  • 214 jazzyp // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:27 PM

    On Friday, from nowhere, Sky Sports said Guilherme Siqueira was close to a Newcastle United loan. The fullback has been struggling to get game time at Atletico Madrid this season, and an exit would surprise nobody.

    What was surprising was the total lack of reporting on the potential deal in Spain. Previous Siqueira transfers have been full of leaks, and Atletico Madrid seem to provide a constant stream of information to Spanish newspapers, especially the Madrid based AS.

    Siqueira is in the Spanish news today, but it’s nothing to do with Newcastle. Several newspapers, including Marca and regional specialist Super Deporte, say that an agreement has been verbally reached for Siqueira to join Valencia.

    Super Deporte say the deal is very close to being done and Siqueira will join Valencia for the rest of this season and the whole of the next campaign, on an extended loan from Atletico.

  • 215 jazzyp // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:28 PM

    Manxpie

    My secret is out lol

  • 216 WWSBRD // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:28 PM

    Doumbia sounds close, Siqueira sounds off, other LB sounds quiet and Gomis sounds disappointing

    Fun two days ahead

  • 217 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:29 PM

    Jib

    You say, “The proprietor of this blog is approaching 80 and I can say without fear of contradiction that in most intellectual endeavours especially the internet he leaves you standing.”

    You have yet to support this statement never mind assure Tuff. You appear to have little or no basis for your pronouncements. Hence Jib jibberish.

  • 218 jazzyp // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:30 PM

    Marseille are set to miss out on yet another attacking target during this January transfer window in the form of Seydou Doumbia.

    According to our colleagues at Le 10 Sport, AS Roma have agreed to allow the player to join Premier League side Newcastle United on loan with an option to buy in principle.

    There are still some details to work out, but it appears that Doumbia is all set to join Newcastle, barring an extraordinary turnaround in events.

    NUFC’s ability to pay the entirety of the player’s wages during this loan spell unlike the likes of Marseille is believed to have been a big factor.

  • 219 JackButler // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:33 PM

    Doumbia deal said to be agreed as we are willing to pay 100% of the players wages while on loan and we will have an option to buy, all other interested parties were only prepared to pay a percentage of his wages while on loan. It would take a massive turn around for the deal not to go through.

    Le 10 sport

  • 220 jazzyp // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:36 PM

    JB

    Bet that has put a smile on your face mate. Looking like Gomis as well for €9

  • 221 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:36 PM

    Doumbia? I am not sold. This transfer also reek of Jeff….I mean desperation!

  • 222 beermonkey // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:37 PM

    jazzy

    Doumbia. sounds like it is close and with an option to buy as well he is 28 isn’t he ?

  • 223 JackButler // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:38 PM

    Jazzy

    Very happy if it happens mate, but still don’t want Go-miss as he’s not good enough, but Doumbia is exactly what we need, pace, power and great finisher

  • 224 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:38 PM

    JazzyP & hopefully it won’t be derailed AGAIN at the last possible moment.Much rather have Doumbia than Gomis.
    I regret that I am bracing myself for the annual NUFC announcement on transfers (January Window)”We tried to get a quality striker & a left back over the line but just failed at the last minute”
    BUT There is always a very late dramatic big signing in the January Window & you never know it may be the Toon this year making a mega bucks late late bid for Berahino if Ashley feels like gambling big time.

  • 225 beermonkey // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:39 PM

    jesper

    whats wrong with Doumbia.

  • 226 Jail for Ashley // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:39 PM

    WW…,
    What do you think is more important, a striker or LB, or do you think that they share equal importance as I do. I said in a post earlier that a good LB solves our CB problem, in the short term at least. We really need a top CB in the summer to be
    Mbemba’s partner.

  • 227 jazzyp // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:39 PM

    Jesper

    Do you not think a loan with an option to buy is best for both parties ?
    His record in the champions league is second to none. Personally mate I would put more faith in Doumbia than Gomis

  • 228 Ian Toon // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:41 PM

    Blackley-Is this something from “Your life in their hands” ? A little learning is a dangerous thing. Whilst I enjoyed your earlier expose on Churchill: Carr ; you’ve gone way out of bounds on your proclamation on the brain etc. What’s next nuclear physics.?
    Angels – A case could be made that mental decline comes with age but it’s by no means usual or indeed inevitable at any age. Your confusing memory loss and cognitive abilities with major diseases.
    I don’t believe Carr has reached his sell by date because he’s 70 but because he is underperforming relative to his performance in the summer of 2011. Maybe it is simply a case of the market becoming more competive.
    I mentioned David Pleat earlier and he’s the same age as Carr but has a wealth of experience and contacts in football. Pochettino has given him a clear mandate. We need to up our game.
    This requires better management from the board room and a consistent approach to player recruitment and coaching. Root and branch from academy, under 21’s and PL. If we survive relegation this season we should get the drains up.

  • 229 Mister Tuff // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:43 PM

    Jib Jibberish – well here’s a link to UEFA where it clearly states Benny was born in France.
    Seeing that he had played for France you would assume that UEFA would have correct details – ie that he was born in France and not in Tunisa as you state.

    Still waiting for your evidence/links showing that Benny was not born in France.
    come on -confess you do not have any.

  • 230 Jail for Ashley // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:43 PM

    And what’s with giving players five year deals, it’s so you can get three years out of them without offering them a better deal before selling them. But if they’re pants like so many lately, we’re stuck with them.

  • 231 Mister Tuff // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:43 PM

    link
    http://www.uefa.com/teamsandplayers/players/player=93320/profile/index.html

  • 232 belgrade fan // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:43 PM

    posted earlier that Valencia wants to sell Orban and we want only loan. so this is actually our LB target

  • 233 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:44 PM

    @Jail for Ashley

    Left back for me should have been the first signing when the window opened only had to look at what happened at Watford when Dummett failed a fitness test the whole shape of the team was changed and it did not work !

    Possibly if Colback would have been fit he would have been played there but he is 1 yellow card away from a few game suspension so would not be a long term solution!!

    Dummett is a great defender but it leaves our team so lop sided on the wing its unreal although maybe having Townsend on the left could change all of that ?

  • 234 Jib // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:45 PM

    Just seen Pardew’s presser
    Thay beat Stoke City at home in the FA cup “Cos they was a fret on boaf sides of the pitch”

  • 235 Jail for Ashley // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:45 PM

    How old is carl, he clearly seems to have lost his marbles, a seventy year old who likes chillin!

  • 236 WWSBRD // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:45 PM

    JfA
    If it had to be one or the other is go LB but I’d say they are the glaring holes in the squad right now

    I agree a LB coming in allows Dummett to be cover again

    As for summer Colo replacement is vital but it has been since he first wanted to hop a plane but it’ll be ignored

  • 237 jazzyp // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:45 PM

    Oh yes baby……Crack open a tinny. Seydou is coming to town.

    Beer

    I would take Doumbia all day long mate,Especially on a loan with a view to a Permanent deal.
    Guys say he didn’t do well in Italy are failing to realise he was carrying a niggle to his shin, hence only being used as a bit part player. He only managed a run of 4 games on the trot scoring in 2 of them

  • 238 manxpie // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:46 PM

    would love doumbia here wanted him a few seasons ago, he’s a goal machine by all accounts
    prefer him to gomis or someone with “potential”

  • 239 Jib // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:47 PM

    Mr Tuff
    I’m still waiting for the link to Benny’s own official web page.

  • 240 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:47 PM

    Beer…I don’t there is anything wrong with him. It just seems as though we could get those at the top of the kist so now we are panicking!

  • 241 JackButler // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:49 PM

    HBA was born in Clamart, a suburb in the south east of Paris, he is the son of former Tunisian international footballer Kamel Ben Arfa

  • 242 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:51 PM

    *think

  • 243 beermonkey // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:51 PM

    jail

    these 5 year deals are ok with kids on not a lot of cash but look at obertan marveax cabella thavin were wasting millions a year in wages

    whats wrong with 3 plus a trigger with a small rise for an extra 2 years to be triggered with in a year something like that
    its one of the reasons the squad is a mess

  • 244 manxpie // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:52 PM

    dummet gets far to much stick i feel, he hasn’t had a winger infront of him at all infact he’s only had players that are only looking to move infield so harsh to have a go at his attacking ability

  • 245 Jail for Ashley // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:52 PM

    WW…,
    Apparently the LB coming in is Dummets cover that’s what has stalled this Brazillian guy coming. Dummet would be a great subs bench defender. But after what Elliott said I think he’s Collos replacement.

  • 246 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:53 PM

    Beer…I don’t think there is anything wrong with him. It just seems as though we couldn’t get those at the top of the list so now we are panicking!

    *that should be in English 😉

  • 247 WWSBRD // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:53 PM

    jesper
    U prefer we got no one?

  • 248 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:54 PM

    On HBA’s official Facebook page it says he was born in Chatenay-Malabry a suburb of Paris

    https://www.facebook.com/benarfaofficiel/

  • 249 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:54 PM

    Ian Toon
    I’m not a scientist. I just have a healthy respect for scientific opinion. These are not my findings. So if you’re denouncing them, you’re the one who has gone wat out of bounds not me. Unless you’re a specialist in this field. If you want to put forward your own peer reviewed paper, I’d certainly give it some time.

    You champion David Pleat. He was a big name when he was younger, many years ago. Hardly a bloke at the top of his game now. Could you just chart his career to justify your comments please.

  • 250 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:55 PM

    Thing is you cant rely on Dummett for a whole season he is always getting injured as is Haidara so we need another option !

    If we dont get a left back and rush Dummett back against Everton and he gets injured again then what do we do for the rest of the season ?!

  • 251 Jail for Ashley // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:55 PM

    beer,
    It is a huge factor of why the squad is in such a mess, it doesn’t really make sense either because they’re normally off after two years if they’re any good.

  • 252 JamesToon // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:55 PM

    Looks like Doumbia’s coming which even though he’s not PL proven he fits the profile, we need pace up front. Toni’s deal is weird really don’t want him he’s on the way down just another Cisse.

    Don’t understand why siqueira is choosing Valencia over us when they’ve got Gaya haven’t they?

    Don’t know much about Orban tbh

  • 253 Ian Toon // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:55 PM

    Macas- I don’t believe your suggesting there weren’t alternatives. Carr was too immersed in the French market. The club and he should have redirected their attention elsewhere. You talk of 19 other clubs competing well that’s my point. Far too complacent and not looking to be proactive. He’s not a snake oil salesman and we need a global programme. Just look at how well West Ham have reconstructed their squad on a shoe string after the lamentable Fat Sam. Leicester they looked goners a little over a year ago. It’s not always simply. Case of throwing money.

  • 254 JackButler // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:56 PM

    Manx

    Dummett could have a brick wall in front of him and he’d still be a poor left back, but to be fair to the lad he should not be played there as he’s a centre half, it’s the same as when they’ve played Saylor at right back, he’ll give 100% but it’s not a natural position and they are found wanting more often than not.

    Typical NUFC as its square pegs in round holes

  • 255 beermonkey // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:56 PM

    so is this a a rule any1 can use
    if your losing an argument just use the phrase

    i assure you

    will have to get ed to add it to the blog rules

  • 256 WWSBRD // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:57 PM

    JfA
    Well how depressing is that. We were close to bringing in a CL LB but failed because we expected him to sit behind our out of position CB

    As for him filling Colos boots am not totally against it

  • 257 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:59 PM

    Jazzy…A loan is definitely the wiser thing! I just think these last 3 players we have been linked to and almost signed seem odd and like we are panicking!

  • 258 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 30, 2016 at 8:59 PM

    Beermonkey

    We will sign Saido Berahino

    I assure you…….

  • 259 WWSBRD // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:00 PM

    beer
    Benny was born on the moon, Shola delivered him on his way to solve intergalactic wars

    I assure u

  • 260 JackButler // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:01 PM

    I assure you we will be getting the shyte end of the deal if this happens

    http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/swansea-city-make-7m-bid-10813122

  • 261 lochinvar // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:02 PM

    Is Gomis an understatement of intent I don’t know. Or was he the realistic target all along on the say of Jonjo who let slip he wanted out of Swansea. Either way our transfer dealings seem to be as chaotic and ill planned so nothing’s changed there then.

  • 262 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:03 PM

    JackB
    How many points have we won this season with Dummett in the team and how many without?

  • 263 bettyswallocks // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:03 PM

    This may be of interest to some of our senior bloggers.

    There is a medication called Metformin normally used to treat diabetes which has been proven to halt the ageing process and help to prevent Alzheimer’s etc. I am 52 and have been taking it for a year or so. I have to say I feel more mentally alert and physically more energised.It has been extensively tested in Russia and Asia with amazing results.
    It can be bought without prescription, as I say I would recommend it to have lots of benefits. Research it on any medical site.

    Apart from that I am still hoping we sign Berahino , he seems the best of what’s available.

  • 264 manxpie // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:03 PM

    strange how hes played his whole career at LB then isn’t it?
    over 60 games hes played a couple of games at CB where he did well no doubt but he is a LB

  • 265 JackButler // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:04 PM

    Blackley

    I don’t know, enlighten me, also what difference does it make?

  • 266 Jib // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:05 PM

    Two different birth places claimed on 2 different internet biographies for a North African in France .
    How naive are you lot !!!!

  • 267 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:06 PM

    If he’s a left back I assure you we need at new one. I think the kid is broken. Can we return him?

  • 268 Ian Toon // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:07 PM

    Blackley – Ha ha. I wouldn’t profess to have all the answers. Medicine is an applied science not a pure science. You reading a few articles doesn’t qualify you to make the claims you have. As I said I don’t have all the answers but your claims are highly questionable. Simply to fit your 70+ decline argument which is arbitrary.
    If seems the Spurs youth development progress has passed you by! Well David Pleat heads it up under Pochettino.
    Rob Lee on Fletch and Sav.

  • 269 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:07 PM

    Johnny Cash wrote coming home Newcastle for Lindisfarne…..

    I assure you

  • 270 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:08 PM

    Betty I take Metformin for my diabetes

  • 271 beermonkey // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:08 PM

    jail

    I get the club has a wage budget and a transfer budget
    but when you continually hand out 5 year deals to players that have never played in the league and they fail our hands are tied we cant send them back because normally we have doubled there wages so they sit and rot
    marveax will have taken more than 15mill in wages by the time he goes and for what ?
    obertan around 10 taylor riviere goofy the same

    and yet when we have some talent in Aarons and mbabu whose deal run out this year no sign of deals or we will haggle over a couple of grand

  • 272 lochinvar // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:09 PM

    ‘TOON WANT GOMIS’ according to the Telegarph now:
    Newcastle are lining up a late deal for Swansea striker Bafetimbi Gomis, according to the Daily Telegraph.
    Steve McClaren’s Newcastle are reportedly looking to spend £7m on Swansea’s leading scorer, who has six goals this season.

    Nearly 1million a goal – nice work if you can get it

  • 273 beermonkey // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:11 PM

    WWSBRD

    I will believe that and I will try and work it into the conversation at golf tomoz if I am partnered with a fellow toon supporter

  • 274 JackButler // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:11 PM

    He’s played at left back for the first team as we simply haven’t had anyone else to cover there, the lad has said himself that he’s a centre half, but because of the pathetic way we have been run he’s been used to cover the left back slot

  • 275 firebug666 // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:12 PM

    France’s Le10 Sport have bad news for Marseille fans on Saturday evening. In what Le10 are saying is an exclusive, it’s claimed that, Marseille have lost out in the race to Seydou Doumbia from AS Roma on loan for the rest of the season.

    What’s bad news for Marseille, would appear to be good news for Newcastle United, because Le10 say it is they who have managed to get Doumbia until the summer. Le10 claim that Newcastle have got the ‘green light’ on a deal to sign Doumbia,

    It’s also claimed that Bafétimbi Gomis could be joining Doumbia at Newcastle, with the plan being to sign them both. L’Equipe had reported earlier on Saturday that Newcastle were in talks to sign Gomes but hadn’t yet agreed a fee with Swansea and hadn’t agreed on contract length with the player.

    http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/topics/newcastle-get-green-light-to-loan-striker-have-won-the-race

  • 276 WWSBRD // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:12 PM

    Chancel
    Johnny Cash was a big Newcastle fan! His mother often said hinny howay

  • 277 manxpie // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:14 PM

    we’ll see a different dummet with townsend in the team imo
    a defender that gets stick for defending is crazy like
    how much negative running does janmaat do jesper?

  • 278 lochinvar // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:15 PM

    Ronnie Lambert wrote Coming home
    Dylan was a Rabbit on the Magic Roundabout

  • 279 manxpie // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:15 PM

    jack he was at st mirren plus he has played there for wales

  • 280 WWSBRD // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:15 PM

    beer
    It’s why Benny has all those footballing gifts but the inability to truly use them, some will claim they are God given but we know Shola is where his powers came from

    And have u seen any intergalactic wars…thanks Shola

  • 281 Ron Knee // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:16 PM

    firebug

    I know which part of the deal I wouldn’t mind falling through!

  • 282 Jail for Ashley // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:16 PM

    beermonkey,
    I just got a horrible feeling in the pit of my stomach when you said how much money Marveaux will have had out of us. Are you sure it’s that much ?

  • 283 angelswithdirtyfaces // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:16 PM

    B&B

    Missed your very perspicacious earlier observation on Bl&Br in English as she is spoke.
    Indeed.

    Iantoon
    “Angels – A case could be made that mental decline comes with age but it’s by no means usual or indeed inevitable at any age. Your confusing memory loss and cognitive abilities with major diseases.” (sic)
    You have misread my posts. Your first sentence is precisely my main argument. It’s not me who is confused here.

    Bl&Br
    Interesting you quote my old uni as a source of research on cognitive decline. The key words – the ones you don’t emphasise in your single case study – are ‘could’ and ‘can’. I don’t know if you understand the concept of statistical significance. ‘Could’, ‘can’, and might do are possibilities. The exception is not the rule.
    In human terms mental decline can set it at any age for any number of reasons – didn’t Dixie Dean have brain problems from heading that hard wet leather ball into the net all those times ? Same problem with Muhammed Ali.
    You’re still trying to generalise from exceptional cases.
    You haven’t learnt anything since you were banned last year. You’re still arguing black is white ! I suppose, given our team colours, that is a natural inclination and there really is a statistical probability that Toon fans don’t get shades of grey.

    Incidentally, do not confuse the citing of any person – Churchill or Dixie Dean or Ali as an example of a particular idea in a comment as a direct comparison between that person and Carr. That is another of your straw men.

    I think the best way of putting it is that Carr has lost, or mislaid, his Mojo, but then the entire team have yet to find theirs. Let’s hope we get to the 40 pts sooner rather than later with the new recruits. We’re due a lift in form.

  • 284 WWSBRD // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:17 PM

    manx
    Dummett will still be a terrible LB regardless of who is in front of him, unless Jonas comes back of course

  • 285 firebug666 // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:17 PM

    Ron Knee

    Aye I agree, Go-miss should stay where he is, it will give us a better chance of passing them in the league.

  • 286 angelswithdirtyfaces // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:18 PM

    Not saying Ali was a great ST but he got his heid bashed all the same btw

  • 287 bettyswallocks // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:19 PM

    Chancel….. You should live a long and healthy life with a good active mind. They take it all over Asia to live longer with amazing results.

  • 288 manxpie // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:20 PM

    ww why is he a “terrible” LB?

  • 289 JackButler // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:20 PM

    Manx, the lad himself said his preferred position is at centre half, yes he’s played there, with Wales as he can’t get a central place and he was used to cover injuries, not sure about St Mirren, but there was an interview with the lad a few years ago when he first broke into the side and I’m sure I’ve read somewhere that he was seen as Colo’s long term replacement

  • 290 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:20 PM

    Betty hope they can fix me then lol

  • 291 colwell // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:22 PM

    Doumbia YES please, Has proven himself on the biggest stage and his awesome pace will make him a hit in the Prem.
    If we sign Gomis as well surely the 2 are very good signings Gomis proved he can do it in the Prem all ready and with the chances we have created recently will thrive. At least then all the pressure is off Mitro.

  • 292 Jib // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:23 PM

    Chancel it was actually Ronnie Lambert a.k.a .
    Geordie Busker
    Lindisfarne did a much later ( crap ) cover

  • 293 Jib // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:24 PM

    I assure you

  • 294 JackButler // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:25 PM

    Dummett has had the luck to play behind players that offer him support, can you imagine him if Robert or Ginola were ahead of him?

  • 295 beermonkey // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:25 PM

    jail

    he is on about 60k a week I have seen it on here and other places

    a quick google
    http://www.tsmplug.com/football/newcastle-united-players-salaries-2014/

    or I could pull out the I assure you card

  • 296 manxpie // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:25 PM

    i’d prefer to have a LB that defends well in our situation than a foreign newcomer to the league
    he’s a good defender and he might make a great CB but for me he gets far to much stick
    hiadara has not shown much and janmaat isn’t great at defending
    we have looked far more solid defensively since dummet has been in the team and colo has got back to looking good at the same time

  • 297 WWSBRD // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:27 PM

    manx
    Well he can’t attack, isn’t comfortable with the ball, breaks down everything on the left, offers nothing to the lad in front of him etc etc

    The games evolved and full backs became a lot more important if it was still just about standing next to the CBs he would be an average LB but it’s no

    He’s not good enough to be a LB at CB I quite like him though it’s where he should be playing

  • 298 JackButler // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:29 PM

    For me Dummett and Haidara are no where near good enough, but both have age on their side and maybe when Dummett is moved into a central position he come into his own, but right now his positional sence isn’t good enough, he turned far too easily and he’s too slow to close down his man. I don’t care where they come from or how much they cost, we simp,y need a quality left back as right now we don’t have one at the club

  • 299 WWSBRD // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:30 PM

    manx
    We are good enough to impose ourselves on quite a few teams in this league, when playing Dummett at LB we are saying to whoever we are facing that they only need to worry about our right side as our left won’t move

  • 300 Jib // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:30 PM

    Lochinvar a question
    Why is it not possible to get an original version of Bob Dylan’s 115th Dream on the internet ?

    I was riding on the Mayflower
    When I thought I spied some land
    I yelled for Captain Arab
    I have yuh understand
    Who came running to the deck
    Said, “Boys, forget the whale
    Look on over yonder
    Cut the engines
    Change the sail
    Haul on the bowline”
    We sang that melody
    Like all tough sailors do
    When they are far away at sea.

    “I think I’ll call it America”
    I said as we hit the land
    I took a deep breath
    I fell down, I could not stand
    Captain Arab he started
    Writing up some deeds
    He said, “Let’s set up a fort
    And start buying the place with beads”
    Just then this cop comes down the street
    Crazy as a loon
    He throw us all in jail
    For carryin’ harpoons.

  • 301 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:30 PM

    thankyou for correcting me on the singer I didn’t know tbh

  • 302 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:31 PM

    Why are people so against us signing a left back ?! We have needed one for ages !!!

    Haidara has still not looked good enough when fit and Dummett offers nothing on the ball which leaves us unbalanced !

  • 303 WWSBRD // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:31 PM

    Nuts phones dead night boys and girls

  • 304 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:32 PM

    this says we are getting doumbia others are saying we aren’t ffs

    http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/topics/newcastle-get-green-light-to-loan-striker-have-won-the-race

  • 305 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:33 PM

    but claims gomis is coming too

  • 306 manxpie // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:33 PM

    ww he hasn’t had much chance has he?
    the lad in front of him has hardly been infront of him lol
    the balance to the team that townsend should bring we’ll see

  • 307 JackButler // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:33 PM

    Manx

    The reverse of a comment you made, that Dummett will flourish with Townsend in front of him, has to be taken into account and that’s how much will Dummett take away from Townsend knowing that he’s always got to protect the left back?

  • 308 Take a Chancel on me // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:36 PM

    we need a left back in too

  • 309 manxpie // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:37 PM

    how does he need to protect the LB?
    thats not the issue dummet does well in getting back far better than janmaats jog
    if anything townsend will knows that he doesn’t need to cover as much

  • 310 Munster Mag // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:38 PM

    Jail, plenty of tools on this site have championed the lkes of Marveaux for ages. They live in a world of FIFA and cant judge footballers at all. Marveaux, Thauvin, and another awful signing like Mbiwa , Santon ( quite simply could not defend ) etc sum up Carrs worst exploits. Particularly the first 3 above, and the other little fella from Marseilles. And please guys, lets not blame Ashley for putting the squeeze on financially – these guys were far from freebies.

  • 311 manxpie // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:40 PM

    lee we need cover no doubt i said the other day we did but not a newbie to the league whos gonna start far to risky in our posistion
    unless they are really top players

  • 312 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:40 PM

    Pure speculation about : Doumbia, Sequeria, Remy, Berahino etc etc No one is coming till they sign on the dotted line! Reporters love the transfer windows .They start & often finish rumours. Speculation & uncertainty sell newspapers.

  • 313 JackButler // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:40 PM

    Manx

    He’s turned at nearly every attack, stands off his man too much, plus as he has nothing going forward we become so predictable as everything comes down our right side. Townsend will bring more balance to the side but we need quality at left back and stop using square pegs in round holes

  • 314 Blackley and Brownlie // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:51 PM

    Angels
    I quoted the piece as was. Cut and pasted. Why would I emphasise? It speaks for itself. “Can” and “could”. The piece included” “University College London researchers found a 3.6% decline in mental reasoning in women and men aged 45-49”. You don’t mention that bit.

    Churchill, Sir Alex, Einstein, Benn, even David Pleat. None of them was at the top of their game jn the 70s. Far from it. David Pleat. Do me a favour. Ian thinks he proves his case because David Pleat is now doing valuable work for Spurs academy.

    Because I’m arguing that your mental faculties deteriorste as you get older, you accuse me of arguing black is white. You’ve argued every bit of the way so what are you doing?

    Give me one good example of anyone at the height of their powers in their 70s and I’ll give you hundreds who are well on the wane – or even dead.

  • 315 Jib // Jan 30, 2016 at 9:53 PM

    Florian back in Marseilles
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZ_PVf4WQAEdITS.jpg:large

  • 316 davis_toons // Jan 31, 2016 at 6:20 AM

    “if anything townsend will knows that he doesn’t need to cover as much”

    Likewise for Dummett case.




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