Thauvin Gave Up Too Soon On Newcastle


There’s news in France that Florian Thauvin is expected to become a Marseille player again today – and it looks like he still wants to go on loan and back to his former club through the end of the season – he is even willing to take a pay cut to do that.

But if Florian does make the move today he’s basically given up on Newcastle and the Premier League for that matter – and it’s hard to see him ever returning to Newcastle or even the Premier League.

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Florian Thauvin – gave up too soon at Newcastle

This seems a monumental error by Newcastle in the transfer market and Steve McClaren had rightly wanted the player to stay, even though he had found things very difficult in the first six month at Newcastle.

Whenever you move to a new club and another country it’s always (very) difficult, but time heals all wounds so to speak.

It’s uncomfortable and even a bit scary when you move to any new job – even more difficult when that job is in another country – and it takes some time to adjust.

There was also the chance also that Newcastle’s fortunes would improve as we have brought in some good players this month.

But as soon as Andros Townsend was signed by Newcastle earlier in the week we had promised Florian he could make the loan move to Marseille – if he still wanted to do that and didn’t want to give it another go on Tyneside.

Newcastle will take a hit in terms of the finances and £13M was always a high price to pay for a player who had a poor season last term in the south of France.

Florian is a skillful player and just like Ben Arfa before him – it would not surprise us if he rekindles his career in France – and even goes on eventually to become a regular French International.

But playing in the tough Premier League is a much bigger proposition for any player and we think the 23 year-old gave up on that possibility too soon.

Maybe he should have seen out the season and then made the decision.

After all it does warm up when April and May arrive in Newcastle.

Sometimes.

🙂

Anyway we can imagine how difficult it’s been for the youngster – so hopefully he can start to get his confidence back this season in France.

Florian’s expected to sign a loan deal today until the end of the season with Marseille – according to reports in France.

What happens in the summer we have no idea – maybe a loan deal at Marseille for next season?

What do you think?

Comments welcome.



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316 comments so far

  • SPRINGY

    Jan 30, 2016 at 2:58 PM

    Comment #1

    toon and everton after miller bolanos apparently

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  • JackButler

    Jan 30, 2016 at 2:59 PM

    Comment #2

    So that two of Carr’s Crown Jewels out on loan as they are not good enough and a lot are reporting we may be getting his other long term target Gomiss. How many more nails have to be driven into this guys coffin before he shown the door

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  • WWSBRD

    Jan 30, 2016 at 3:01 PM

    Comment #3

    Not given a chance then fans singled him out and booed him…not exactly the best environment for him

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  • JackButler

    Jan 30, 2016 at 3:04 PM

    Comment #4

    WWSBRD

    The lad was devoid of any confidence before coming here as he had an absolute nightmare for eighteen months in France and should have never been brought in as we are not the club to rebuild anyone’s confidence.

    Given our current state having £25 millions pounds worth of player out on loan is a damning indictment of the way we operate

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Jan 30, 2016 at 3:06 PM

    Comment #5

    Ed, we’re running a top flight football club not a sunday school, although we won’t be for much longer if Graham Carr continues with such monumental errors and the likes of you back his pish poor picks.

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  • angelswithdirtyfaces

    Jan 30, 2016 at 3:14 PM

    Comment #6

    Did Thauvin give up on uz or did we give up on him ?
    It’s a chicken and egg question.
    Had he made regular starts he may have adapted to the EPL.
    In any event its the guy who recommended signing him without a niche in the side who needs to csarry the can.

    Carr could make that mistake in his 40s as well as his 70s. It is not an age related error of judgement.
    There are some skills for which experience does count. He may not be able to become a sporting champion but as long as he is not geriatric, there is no reason age prevents him making the right decisions.
    Age-ists like Bl&Br need to differentiate between age limited skills and age limiting activities – like 5 times a night sex for the over 70s. Just think Churchill in WW2 became PM at 66, and again in 1951 at the age of 77. I don’t know about Churchill’s sexual proclivities but he could drink a few under the table at any age.

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  • toon kk

    Jan 30, 2016 at 3:14 PM

    Comment #7

    Fickle fans never gave the lad a chance.
    He may not be able to cut the premier league but he was hardly given a chance by anyone.

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  • Belfast

    Jan 30, 2016 at 3:15 PM

    Comment #8

    He’s contributed absolutely nothing so I don’t think he’ll be missed.

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  • SPRINGY

    Jan 30, 2016 at 3:16 PM

    Comment #9

    berahino scored

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  • Take a Chancel on me

    Jan 30, 2016 at 3:17 PM

    Comment #10

    Berahino has just scored for West Brom in the FA Cup

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  • ToonRich

    Jan 30, 2016 at 3:17 PM

    Comment #11

    Been any major breakthroughs on the transfer front lads? Been travelling back from Poland and tbh CBA’d back reading all ed’s treads lol

    I did see springy mentioned we’re linked to Miler Bolanos, can’t say I’ve heard of him! Any good?

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  • Belfast

    Jan 30, 2016 at 3:18 PM

    Comment #12

    It’s dog eat dog and he got eaten.

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  • WWSBRD

    Jan 30, 2016 at 3:18 PM

    Comment #13

    JB
    Didn’t help him being told he wasn’t worthy of the shirt after next to no game time

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  • mattyNUFC

    Jan 30, 2016 at 3:18 PM

    Comment #14

    maybe the booing took a toll, but i refuse to believe he ever cared enough to fully apply himself. he’d turned us down twice before and before he signed stated he did not want to come here.

    let him rot in france. marseille’s coaches dont even want him back. time to move on for all parties involved.

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  • Ian Toon

    Jan 30, 2016 at 3:19 PM

    Comment #15

    Belfast
    He always scores when he plays!

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  • Wayayman

    Jan 30, 2016 at 3:19 PM

    Comment #16

    Fickle fans!?! NUFC haven’t won anything in my lifetime and in a 45 yr old bloke. How the hell are we fickle? Just try your nuts off when you wear the shirt, that’s the minimum we should expect.

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  • JackButler

    Jan 30, 2016 at 3:19 PM

    Comment #17

    Toon kk

    It’s not about being fickled, it’s about knowing when we are wasting money when there’s little available, we did the exact same thing with Luuk de Jong, bring in a player with no confidence, throw them into a side that fractured and on its knees and expect them to perform.

    It’s about the club making smart decisions and Thauvin was the wrong player at the wrong club, it’s more of a reflection on how poor we are rather than the player himself

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  • SPRINGY

    Jan 30, 2016 at 3:21 PM

    Comment #18

    i dont think he got much of a chance at the club tbh…..and was torn a new one by a few fans before he kicked a ball….he may well of not been good enough but some players take a half season to a season to settle so hard to say if he would of developed…but its done now,good luck to him

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  • SPRINGY

    Jan 30, 2016 at 3:23 PM

    Comment #19

    toonrich
    was a report on newsnow from the daily star….no nowt at all about the lad….most probs crap tbh!lol

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 30, 2016 at 3:24 PM

    Comment #20

    Ian,
    Will you bloody post as either Ian or carl and cut the bloody clap trap !

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  • mattyNUFC

    Jan 30, 2016 at 3:24 PM

    Comment #21

    i hate to bring it up, but my god i miss HBA. weve now spent 37 odd million trying to replace what we let go for nothing. if there is one thing that will have a lasting imprint on me about APs reign, itll be the fact that we had one of the most supremely talented footballers to ever play the game at our club, and egotism ruined it for us fans. who cares if he was inconsistent weve had a sh*t team for some time now. sure was nice to be entertained at least

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  • Munster Mag

    Jan 30, 2016 at 3:27 PM

    Comment #22

    As you know i have been saying from the first few matches that this guy would not make the grade with us. Many said i was unfair but it was obvious that he has little pace. Cant tackle either, and poor disposition. I have been saying that carr is hugely overrated for two years and now he needs to be banned from buying wingers, period. A shocking wate of money. I believe nufc is changing under ashley and we are certainly spending well. He needs to get rid of carr. I would keep smc ten times as fast as keeping old man carr and his Mondial connections. Ash should investigate the mans dealings there

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Jan 30, 2016 at 3:29 PM

    Comment #23

    Angels
    You’re clearly a young man who hasn’t experienced the chills of the grim reaper.

    By his re-election in 1951, Churchill was, in the words of Roy Jenkins, “gloriously unfit for office”. Ageing and increasingly unwell, he often conducted business from his bedside, and while his powerful personality and oratory ability endured, the Prime Minister’s leadership was less decisive than during the war. His second term was most notable for the Conservative Party’s acceptance of Labour’s newly created Welfare State, and Churchill’s effect on domestic policy was limited. His later attempts at decreasing the developing Cold War through personal diplomacy failed to produce significant results, and poor health forced him to resign in 1955, making way for his Foreign Secretary and Deputy Prime Minister,Anthony Eden.

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  • SPRINGY

    Jan 30, 2016 at 3:31 PM

    Comment #24

    munster
    i agree with you that there appears to be a change when it comes to transfers….i think carr maybe on his way in the summer, or he maybe have to take more of a back seat when it comes to player selection.

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  • TomaKaThor

    Jan 30, 2016 at 3:33 PM

    Comment #25

    I blame a good chunk of so called Newcastle fans… I mean if they carry on they will probably push Mitrovic out as well because he hasn’t been sticking the ball in the net….yet if they actually watched his all round game they would see he does a good job with the little support he gets.

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  • Munster Mag

    Jan 30, 2016 at 3:35 PM

    Comment #26

    Matty, hba has been crap in most of his clubs. He once ran less than his keeper at hull. He falls out with people everywhere. Great skill no doubt. Wud he get near a team like pottechino’s? Not a prayer.

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  • JP...from The Rock

    Jan 30, 2016 at 3:35 PM

    Comment #27

    What I want to see in NUFC are quick, strong and technically gifted footballers that are fighters! That want to fight for their place and want to fight for victory!

    Thauvin is not a fighter therefore he can fcuk off back to France! We don’t need any time wasters here. We need a team of fighters hungry to win every match.

    Bye bye Thauvin thanks for nothing!

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  • Ian Toon

    Jan 30, 2016 at 3:38 PM

    Comment #28

    Jail
    I saw your posts earlier. Yer right!
    Enjoy your weekend. Any Berahino news?

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  • lochinvar

    Jan 30, 2016 at 3:39 PM

    Comment #29

    Thauvin has a classic French trait – they don’t travel well and prefer all things French generally , unless they have an older head ( Cabella ? )
    Weather plays a part – Thauvin would probably play better in the warm April sunshine but that’s too late for us – can we get our money back rather than a loan out ( at Wonga rates ) ?

    Berahino scores for WBA in the Cup…if he gets subbed will he wave their fans goodbye I wonder ?.

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  • AncientC

    Jan 30, 2016 at 3:42 PM

    Comment #30

    “hba has been crap in most of his clubs”

    Strange how Newcastle (managed by flair assassin Pardew) is the only club in HBA’s career that wanted to get rid of him.

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  • Munster Mag

    Jan 30, 2016 at 3:43 PM

    Comment #31

    Toma i agree. Nitro has real potential although he is somewhat limited. He cud get 14 goals a season if we team him up with real wingers. Theres no way we are finished spending and i think ashley has to be given credit. We may be off a low base but nufc is the biggest spender in world football now and i dont think we will ship guys out in the summer. If he does, i think we will buy again.

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  • bettyswallocks

    Jan 30, 2016 at 3:44 PM

    Comment #32

    We’re still playing cat and mouse with Mr. Pearce for Berahino, he seems a real stubborn git mind. Looks like it ll go to the wire.
    I hope if we do sign him it meets with the approval of Sven Goran Fuglslang.

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Jan 30, 2016 at 3:46 PM

    Comment #33

    A bit like you Belfast 😉

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  • hibbitt

    Jan 30, 2016 at 3:47 PM

    Comment #34

    TomaKaThor post 25
    on what do you base such a wild comment like that….. you dont go to games otherwise you would know that the crowd are behind him 100% ……………you base your comments on a few fools on here who like your self haven’t got a clue stick to FIFA

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Jan 30, 2016 at 3:48 PM

    Comment #35

    Betty Boop…no one understands the words that come out of your mouth! That’s why no one reply you!

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  • lesh

    Jan 30, 2016 at 3:48 PM

    Comment #36

    Surely Carr couldn’t have been wrong in persuading Charnley to blow £14m (?) on him when our immediate needs lay elsewhere!

    Carr’s supposed to be renowned for digging deep to assess targets’ background and character before recruiting isn’t he? Or is he!

    If Thauvin returns to France, then there’s been a lot of time and money wasted!

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  • Munster Mag

    Jan 30, 2016 at 3:50 PM

    Comment #37

    Ancient, he hasnt been successful and falls out with people habitually. He talks about being a euro star but he isnt, and never will be.

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Jan 30, 2016 at 3:51 PM

    Comment #38

    Yes Ian…Berahino is alive and well in West Bromwich

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  • Belfast

    Jan 30, 2016 at 3:52 PM

    Comment #39

    Ooooooooh that hurt.

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Jan 30, 2016 at 3:53 PM

    Comment #40

    Why would they return Thauvin when have other players to clear out? The mistake they have made on both Cabella and this kid is laughable!

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