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Admission – There’s No Excuse For Being Relegated

9:07 am, Wednesday, February 3rd, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 177 Comments

Newcastle are currently in a relegation place which we’ve been in ever since the start of the season when 3 points from our first eight games was the worst start we have ever made to a Premier League season.

Newcastle spent a massive £52M in the summer and have now spent another £29M in January to be the Premier League’s top spenders this season and so Steve McClaren is telling the truth when he says there is no excuse if we are relegated in May.

No excuse at all.

steve mcclaren snowing traiuning

Steve McClaren – Newcastle manager under pressure

This is some of that Steve McClaren said yesterday in his press conference:

“I don’t think there has ever been an excuse for being relegated. ‘I didn’t expect any before, and I definitely don’t expect any now.”

“I’m delighted with what we brought in. The squad is a lot stronger than what it was at the beginning of the month.”

“I think we said from the outset in the summer that’s what we wanted. We wanted to take this club forward, and that will only progress through investment. ‘Really, it’s just the beginning, it’s not the end.’ ‘I think Berahino would have been a bonus.”

“The Board, when we got together and discussed it, it was ambitious, it was out there making a statement and I think it would have been a bonus if it had come off.”

“I think we have done great business. If you said we would have signed the likes of Townsend and Shelvey, two top quality young players, England internationals, by the end of the window.

We would have said you were crazy in the beginning.”

Our form has been good at times this season but there’s no arguing that our results have been simply horrendous.

We are on a poor run of results at the moment and we have lost five of our last seven games and won just one game in the last eight – a good 2-1 win at home to West Ham.

Hopefully we can get a win at Everton tonight.

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177 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Jail for Ashley // Feb 3, 2016 at 9:15 AM

    Why would the 17th richest club in the world be considered crazy to think we could sign two out of favour players, albeit England internationals. Not that long ago I think we had six England internationals at one time on duty under SBR.

  • 2 Lindisfarne // Feb 3, 2016 at 9:17 AM

    Be brave and go 442:


  • 3 WWSBRD // Feb 3, 2016 at 9:19 AM

    Because PR and spin are powerful things?

  • 4 Jail for Ashley // Feb 3, 2016 at 9:21 AM




  • 5 The overrated Frenchman // Feb 3, 2016 at 9:23 AM

    Do we know for sure that the Archbishop hasn’t been cleared to play?

  • 6 AncientC // Feb 3, 2016 at 9:28 AM

    Arm-Vice McClaren, I have seen him handling players like that on the sidelines. Alex Ferguson school of player management. lol.

  • 7 JDdubai // Feb 3, 2016 at 9:28 AM

    For me Lascelles needs to be in there today – every time we play Lukaku destorys Colo and whoever is next to him. Gvie Lascelles a chance to compete at least with him in the air and with strength.


  • 8 Toon_Tom // Feb 3, 2016 at 9:33 AM

    why is everyone putting Tiote in the team???

    He is a terrible terrible footballer – charges around like a complete idiot, loses the ball constantly, doesn’t create chances, can’t pick out the pass, can’t judge a tackle, spins around with the ball and goes nowhere.

    Liability, clueless, $hite footballer

  • 9 Jib // Feb 3, 2016 at 9:33 AM

    This is a canny sit for constucting you own team
    You can even post a link to the blog

  • 10 Jib // Feb 3, 2016 at 9:34 AM

    site even

  • 11 Jib // Feb 3, 2016 at 9:35 AM

    constructing even

  • 12 sparky55 // Feb 3, 2016 at 9:38 AM

    Be braver…go…


  • 13 Jib // Feb 3, 2016 at 9:42 AM

    Again we have the wild pendulum swings of Toon fans’ aspirations.

    Everton did not have a very hard cuptie against Carlisle, it was more like a hard training session.

    Martinez and his team will be hurting after their last PL results.

    Goodison is a hard place to visit.

    We have players who have played a couple of hours or less for the club and players who have never played for the club or in the PL.

    I wouldn’t blame McClaren in the slightest if he picked a very defensive team of the old die-hards and parked the bus for a point.

  • 14 sparky55 // Feb 3, 2016 at 9:43 AM

    Perez will be so pumped up tonight after his new contract, Mitro will want to make a statement in light of Doumbia coming, Townsend will run himself into the ground and will probably be off after 60 mins, Winji needs to be in the middle, sissoko needs to run down that wing all night to stop Baines coming forward, and we need to drop Colo for Lascelles because he’s too easily dominated by big strikers like Lukaku.

    If we play Colo we lose

  • 15 Oldgit1 // Feb 3, 2016 at 9:47 AM

    @ toon-Tom sorry but I disagree re Tiote. His last game was terrific and steadied the middle of the park. I do admit though that he shouldn’t be playing anytime soon due to his impending transfer is sorted, his mind will be elsewhere. He has been a great servant to NUFC.

  • 16 Mister Tuff // Feb 3, 2016 at 9:49 AM

    I hope our players are not fwightened playing in that cauldron of hate tonight.

  • 17 AncientC // Feb 3, 2016 at 9:55 AM

    Everton and Martinez under pressure right now, step forward Newcastle.

    We should be beating West Brom, onwards from there hopefully.

  • 18 Jib // Feb 3, 2016 at 9:56 AM

    Hey it’s easy – I gave them the missus’ email ha ha ha

  • 19 Toon_Barmy // Feb 3, 2016 at 9:57 AM

    Think McClaren has more or less said that Tiote won’t be invlolved so i expect to see Saivet start. I know its early days but i haven’t been too impressed by him so far. Lost the ball in some bad areas of the pitch having taken too many touches.

  • 20 expatmag // Feb 3, 2016 at 10:04 AM


    give up…….even

  • 21 kakaobi // Feb 3, 2016 at 10:04 AM

    It’s all fine and well for macclaren to say no excuses but if he does fail he walks away with a big pay out while we are left with a team in the championship so macclaren is in a win win situation

  • 22 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 3, 2016 at 10:06 AM


    “I posted you with several websites where it shows his date and place of birth including a UEFA page – his profile page at Nice and all you can provide is a picture of his parents and a picture of two pigeons on a chess board.”

    Hahaha. PMSL.

  • 23 expatmag // Feb 3, 2016 at 10:06 AM


    Much like you being frightened in thus cauldron of hate…….lol

  • 24 Oldgit1 // Feb 3, 2016 at 10:08 AM

    I’m struggling to come up with a decent line up tonight but feel we do need a DM in our side tonight, not sure yet on Saite at the moment. I can see Townsend starting but can’t see him lasting over 60 mins, at least gini will play in his natural position just behind the CF .

    Hoping for a win but a draw is more likely .

  • 25 Jail for Ashley // Feb 3, 2016 at 10:09 AM

    If that’s your team selection you’ve missed out a scrum half you knacker !

  • 26 jayphoto // Feb 3, 2016 at 10:11 AM

    Consistently one of the worst defences in the league over the last few years yet less than 10% of transfer funds this season went on that…
    We have strengthened. Definitely. But we’re still going to see a left back not go past halfway. We’re still going to see Coloccini play based around guesswork and risk taking. We’re still going to be relying on a fairly injury prone keeper to stay fit.
    On paper we are too good to go down… But we said that last time

  • 27 Rotonda heights // Feb 3, 2016 at 10:11 AM

    Interesting reading for Ed, mag 52, manxpie and munster.

  • 28 DicBDownBali // Feb 3, 2016 at 10:12 AM

    Jib – That website doesn’t have the formation I would play


    I would play shelvey in the slight offset position so there is a nice triangle between him wiji and mitro

  • 29 Rotonda heights // Feb 3, 2016 at 10:12 AM

    who’s saite

  • 30 jayphoto // Feb 3, 2016 at 10:13 AM

    Also Doumbias medical took 9 hours. Were they Carbon dating by any chance?? Surely theres no way we haven’t had scientific proof of his age? He looks like bill cosby!!! I know they tested Mbemba though

  • 31 Jib // Feb 3, 2016 at 10:14 AM

    It’s alright for you it’s about 9 pm where you are.
    I’ve not long gettin oot me scratcher (had a lie in )

  • 32 Lindisfarne // Feb 3, 2016 at 10:17 AM

    Jail for Ashley

    Your right it probably will be Collo as it is too early for Lascelles, but I do hope we start to fade him out at some point. I think Everton are defensively weak and playing without an out and out striker will cause them to lack focus, in favour of a strong midfield where they are at their best. However a dedicated striker may actually be able to exploit their weakness and help himself to a goal or two. Here is hoping!

  • 33 Jib // Feb 3, 2016 at 10:18 AM

    Rotonda heights
    Cut him some slack he’s an owld git.
    Most of the letters – not necessarily in the right order (like Eric Morecambe on the piano)

  • 34 Lindisfarne // Feb 3, 2016 at 10:18 AM

    DicBDownBali – I could tell you why….try making it a 4231.

  • 35 Oldgit1 // Feb 3, 2016 at 10:19 AM

    @ Rtando I meant Saivet

  • 36 Oldgit1 // Feb 3, 2016 at 10:22 AM

    Jib there’s me thinking you were a nice

  • 37 expatmag // Feb 3, 2016 at 10:24 AM


    Aaah haaaaaa……….now you are giving TIME as an excuse for your illiteracy…….TUFF will be pleased……lol

  • 38 Slank // Feb 3, 2016 at 10:27 AM

    My understanding is that we don’t have any left backs or even stand-ins (Colback) available. Therefore, McClaren may revert to a 3-5-2 formation out of necessity.

    I think it may be 50/50 whether he plays Saivet instead of Tiote. Tiote may not be in the right frame of mind after his abortive China trip whereas Perez will be full of beans after his new deal. I suspect that Mitrovic will want to show Doumbia that he is still the number one centre forward.

    The could be:

    Mbemba – Colo – Lascelles
    Janmaat – Sissoko – Shelvey – Saivet – Townsend

  • 39 Sliema // Feb 3, 2016 at 10:27 AM


    We need wins not draws mate.

  • 40 Lindisfarne // Feb 3, 2016 at 10:27 AM

    The bravest formation for tonight 433:


    But a defensive team and a 0-0 draw will probably be the target, in the hope of knicking a win.

  • 41 Lindisfarne // Feb 3, 2016 at 10:32 AM

    Slank – 352 has not been a success in its two previous outings as it has caused confusion and massive holes in the defensive organisation. I am not against its use in general but just not now.

  • 42 firebug666 // Feb 3, 2016 at 10:34 AM


    I agree 4-3-3 would be brave, but may suit the players we have.

    Personally I would go with 4-4-1-1.

  • 43 Jib // Feb 3, 2016 at 10:35 AM

    rtando ha ha ha

  • 44 Slank // Feb 3, 2016 at 10:36 AM

    Lindisfarne @ 41

    I think its a ‘between a rock and a hard place’ that McClaren has to face.

    I suppose he could play Lascelles at left back on the basis that he is the best we have got available but by no means ideal.

  • 45 jayphoto // Feb 3, 2016 at 10:36 AM

    @slank – at least tiote didn’t have to go all the way to china, he met them in Mallorca so just a nice few days in the sun for him.
    Id play Colback for the next 2. Against west ham him and shelvey seemed to gel. Neither Everton nor West Brom have any particular monsters in centre of the park. We need to attack both from the off. Everton are leaky and Nervy at home and the crowd is getting on them. West brom will defend a 0-0 all day if we sit back.

  • 46 Lindisfarne // Feb 3, 2016 at 10:38 AM

    Lets hope Dreamboat Shelvey can score one like this:

  • 47 Rotonda heights // Feb 3, 2016 at 10:39 AM


    I know, just messing.

  • 48 jayphoto // Feb 3, 2016 at 10:41 AM

    For me id go old school. 4-4-2.
    Janmaat Lascelles* Colo Dummett
    sissoko Gini Shelvey Townsend
    Mitrovic Perez/doumbia

    Id play lascelles over mbemba as CM has actually been pretty poor lately and shown signs of tiredness. Lukaku is a huge unit. Won everything against us at Christmas, lascelles would counter his physical threat better. Also adds set peice threat and did well when he’s played

  • 49 ToonMatt // Feb 3, 2016 at 10:43 AM

    There’s no excuses now It’s all in McClaren’s hands, He says he’s happy with the squad, Personally I think we needed a left back and it should have been our priority but it didn’t happen, What I want to ask you all is how many games would you give McClaren to get us out of the bottom three? If we lose the next three should he go?

  • 50 Slank // Feb 3, 2016 at 10:44 AM

    Jay @ 45

    Mallorca is a strange place to meet. I doubt there are direct flights from China.

    Do the Chinese have interests there ?

  • 51 Lindisfarne // Feb 3, 2016 at 10:44 AM

    And one like this from Townsend:

  • 52 Jib // Feb 3, 2016 at 10:44 AM

    Who is the club vice captain ?

  • 53 Slank // Feb 3, 2016 at 10:45 AM

    Jay @ 48

    Isn’t Dummitt still injured ?

  • 54 Lindisfarne // Feb 3, 2016 at 10:45 AM

    Step forward Mitrovic:

  • 55 firebug666 // Feb 3, 2016 at 10:46 AM

    25 man squad announced

    Newcastle United
    25 Squad players (*=Home grown)
    Anita, Vurnon San Benito
    Cisse, Papiss Demba
    *Colback, Jack Raymond
    Coloccini, Fabricio
    *Darlow, Karl
    De Jong, Siem
    Doumbia, Seydou
    *Dummett, Paul
    *Elliot, Robert
    Gouffran, Yoan
    Gutierrez, Ayoze Perez
    Haidara, Massadio
    Janmaat, Daryl
    *Krul, Timothy Michael
    *Lascelles, Jamaal
    Marveaux, Sylvain
    Obertan, Gabriel Antoine
    Riviere, Emmanuel
    Saivet, Henri
    *Shelvey, Jonjo
    Sissoko, Moussa
    *Taylor, Steven Vincent
    Tiote, Cheik Ismael
    *Townsend, Andros
    Wijnaldum, Georginio

  • 56 firebug666 // Feb 3, 2016 at 10:47 AM


    Under-21 players (Contract and Scholars)

    Aarons, Rolando
    Adu-Peprah, Gideon
    Armstrong, Adam James
    Aziakonou, Yannick
    Bailey, Owen John Edward
    Barlaser, Daniel Tan
    Broccoli, Stefan
    Cameron, Kyle Milne
    Charman, Luke
    Cobain, Jamie Anthony
    Donaghey, Shane Patrick
    Gallacher, Owen John
    Gibson, Liam Steven
    Gillesphey, Macauley
    Gilliead, Alex Nicholas
    Harker, Nathan
    Heaney, Mackenzie
    Heardman, Tom
    Hoare, William James
    Holmes, Jamie Jason
    Hunter, Jack David
    Johnson, Louis James
    Kitchen, Benjamin
    Laidler, Adam
    Long, Oliver James
    Longstaff, Sean David
    Lowrie, David James
    Lowther, Daniel Robert
    Mbabu, Melingo Kevin
    Mbemba, Chancel Mangulu
    McNall, Lewis
    Mitrovic, Aleksander
    Newberry, Michael
    Pearson, Brendan Conor
    Pollock, Ben
    Roberts, Callum
    Satka, Lubomir
    Smith, Ben Joseph
    Smith, Callum
    Smith, Liam Phillip
    Spooner, Craig
    Sterry, Jamie Michael
    Suddick, Lewis Ethan
    Toney, Ivan Benjamin Elijah
    Trodd, Allan Jake
    Ward, Daniel John
    Williams, Callum Dylan
    Woodman, Frederick John
    Woolston, Paul Hudson

  • 57 firebug666 // Feb 3, 2016 at 10:48 AM

    Don’t understand Krul being in there as he is out for the season.

  • 58 firebug666 // Feb 3, 2016 at 10:51 AM

    Cheick Tiote back in Steve McClaren’s plans at Newcastle – and kicking his way through training

  • 59 Jib // Feb 3, 2016 at 10:58 AM

    He’s lurking

  • 60 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Feb 3, 2016 at 11:02 AM

    firebug…of that 25 man squad, I see 7 gone in the summer:
    Rivi, and

  • 61 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Feb 3, 2016 at 11:04 AM

    I don’t know about under 21’s beside the obvious.

  • 62 jayphoto // Feb 3, 2016 at 11:06 AM

    @Slank – thought mcclaren said dummett was back?
    the Chinese sidetalking to were training and playing friendlys in Mallorca for 10 days hence why he went there as all of their club officials were in Spain

  • 63 jayphoto // Feb 3, 2016 at 11:08 AM

    @Jesper – I see Sissoko and Krul gone come the summer too!
    Sissoko because he’s at the age where if hes gonna make a step up it needs to be now. Krul because they’ll get 8-10m for him and Elliot is proving he can be a number 1.

  • 64 Slank // Feb 3, 2016 at 11:19 AM

    Jay @ 62


  • 65 expatmag // Feb 3, 2016 at 11:21 AM

    Dont forget

    Sammy is back next season
    So is Thauvin
    And Vuckic

  • 66 Rotonda heights // Feb 3, 2016 at 11:25 AM

    why do people keep calling dummett, dummitt?

  • 67 jayphoto // Feb 3, 2016 at 11:26 AM

    Listened to Cardiff on the radio a while back and the commentator was talking about Sammy. Said based on watching his touch, technique etc that he should be an absolute superstar at that level and that its a mystery why he doesn’t do anything with his talent.
    Always thought he;d have been better converting into a wanchope style striker as he obviously doesn’t have the fitness for the wing and is near on 6″6.

  • 68 optimistic prime // Feb 3, 2016 at 11:27 AM


    Think any of those 3 will be of any use?

    Armstrong should spend a year in the championship, maybe 6 months.

  • 69 WWSBRD // Feb 3, 2016 at 11:27 AM

    On Elliot – no hes not

  • 70 jayphoto // Feb 3, 2016 at 11:29 AM

    Think Thauvin will be a first team player next season. I’ve no doubt he’s gone on loan because McClaren has let it be known he can’t give him minutes to adapt in a relegation battle.
    My bet is that he’ll eventually replace Sissoko on the right or left alternating with townsend and the club are eyeing him having a full preseason etc
    The fact that theres no option to buy is telling and the club have watched him for so long to give up on him after 4 months. Hes now got 6 months to play some games, get his head right before coming back here in July.

  • 71 AncientC // Feb 3, 2016 at 11:31 AM

    Jayphoto, Krul has 12 months left on his contract this summer. In my view he should be replaced, but the club does not stand to get anywhere near 8 to 10 million for him.

  • 72 expatmag // Feb 3, 2016 at 11:34 AM


    Sammy and Vuckic will be either released or sold. I can see Thauvin returning as the current Marseille manager has openly said he didnt want him on loan

  • 73 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Feb 3, 2016 at 11:40 AM

    Mixed bag of results for us last night
    Hopefully we can put one over the whinging Martinez owe him one do not like him one little bit

  • 74 Essex Geordie Bill // Feb 3, 2016 at 11:40 AM

    Broccoli could be a healthy 1st team option.

  • 75 Essex Geordie Bill // Feb 3, 2016 at 11:45 AM

    Last time we tried 3 at the back was a disaster.

    Big Mac needs to keep it tight at the back.

    4 4 2 or 4 4 1 1 Counter attacking is the healthy option.

  • 76 Essex Geordie Bill // Feb 3, 2016 at 11:48 AM

    I’d like to see Sunderland survive but only if they finish below us.

  • 77 expatmag // Feb 3, 2016 at 11:48 AM

    In the summer, if we stay up, we need to do the following

    1….Get rid of our deadwood. Out should go Ameobi, Vuckic, Gouffran, Obertan, Marveaux.

    2….Sell Sissoko, Tiote, De Jong, Cisse and Riviere

    3…..Get Redmond in from Norwich and if Doumbia impresses, sign him permanently.

    4…..We need a top quality central defender so I would go for Hummels

    5….. It would seem Willems is lined up to come in.

    6……We need cover for Janmaat as Mbau us too unreliable with injuries.

    7…. Armstrong to spend a full season in the championship.

  • 78 Essex Geordie Bill // Feb 3, 2016 at 11:49 AM

    Right that’s my 3 pennorth for the day. Bye.

  • 79 jayphoto // Feb 3, 2016 at 11:57 AM

    Some great keepers out there potentially too. Signing a keeper is actually easier for us as most of the top clubs already have outstanding number 1’s.
    In france Mandanda is a great keeper and moving in the summer. In Germany there a many potentially world class keepers. The lad at Moechengladbach – Sommer being particularly outstanding, Timo Horn at Koln is also excellent. Leno at Leverkusen also! Zieler at hannover is very solid.

  • 80 jayphoto // Feb 3, 2016 at 12:02 PM

    just throwing it out there but in Riviere, Gouffran, Marveaux, Obertan and Tiote and possibly de jong we’re actually throwing away over 200k per week, that’s over 10m per season away on wages on players that are 1) nowhere near good enough to be premier league players and 2) Not going to get within a country mile of the starting 11 without some kind of absolute disaster injury spree occurring.
    Add in to that the loss in revenue from signing Mapou, Santon, Thauvin, Cabellla and the transfer fee for Riviere…. How on earth is whoever is responsible still in a job?
    For a club that have a reputation for being unbelievably frugal Newcastle sure do throw money down the drain.

  • 81 toon kk // Feb 3, 2016 at 12:04 PM

    West brom fans booed Berahino when he came on as a sub in there game last night.
    I don’t know why there club didn’t sell him, they hardly use him and he doesn’t want to be there.

  • 82 Toonfan8 // Feb 3, 2016 at 12:06 PM

    I would sell all the players you mentioned to sell and Collocini too, apart from Sissoko and bring Redmond, Berahino, cb Koulibaly/Cahill, Willems and sign Doumbia…team would be like this
    26-man squad —13 HG

  • 83 Laurent Robert 32 // Feb 3, 2016 at 12:14 PM

    I saw something on Soccer AM about some players, Berahino being one of them (and was featured with an interview and some footage), who get specific training from a former SPL player who runs his Superior Striker business in improving their role as a striker.

    It’s a 1-to-1 specific session and they get feedback on their movement, analysis, and correction on form, technique etc with the help of video replays, drills etc.

    I though lt it was really good. Any of you see it as well?

  • 84 bettyswallocks // Feb 3, 2016 at 12:19 PM

    Jib….. It was Les Dawson nor Eric Morecambe who played the wrong notes on the piano.

  • 85 Sroka // Feb 3, 2016 at 12:23 PM

    I agree with a few other posters that Lascelles needs to be in the middle to combat Lukaku, as he’s caused all sorts of problems for our backline before.

    I would be tempted to shift either Colo or the Chancellor to def mid. I believe Mbemba even plays this position for his country. Tiote will likely be off int he next few weeks, and in truth is a liability most of the time, and Colback puts lots of effort in but really does nothing other than pick up cards.

    Shelvey needs some help with defensive duties, we cant play him in the middle without a defensively minded partner.

  • 86 DicBDownBali // Feb 3, 2016 at 12:24 PM

    Jib – That’s the closest to my formation. I don’t call it 4-2-3-1 though. It’s a 4-1-2-1-2 🙂

    What are predictions for the match?

    My heart says toon win. My head says ‘im not sure’

  • 87 beermonkey // Feb 3, 2016 at 12:31 PM


    I was chatting to some1 the otherday about the wasted wages
    I think marveax goes this season and he will have had just over 15mill in wages
    these 5 year contracts are really hampering the club

    when u look in the last couple of years we have wasted cash on riviere dejong cabella thauvin on transfer fees and on top of that were wasting nearly 15mill a year in wages on these players
    its criminal

  • 88 beermonkey // Feb 3, 2016 at 12:36 PM

    we have Armstrong and bigi out onloan at Coventry
    they had youngster there that some prem clubs were looking at
    james Maddison I know spurs were looking and he was sold to Norwich in jan and loaned back

    why on earth are we not in for some of these players

  • 89 jayphoto // Feb 3, 2016 at 12:41 PM

    @beermonkey – according to reports Marveaux is the 2nd biggest earner at Newcastle on 60 k P/W. (Probably because he came on a free?)
    Gouffran is on 48k p/w….
    Riviere on over 40k p/w too…
    Tiote on 55k p/w
    Absolute madness some of those! No wonder we can’t shift them for love nor money

  • 90 Jib // Feb 3, 2016 at 12:42 PM


    A boring goalless draw would suit me just fine

  • 91 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Feb 3, 2016 at 12:44 PM

    Jay…that is huge problem I agree and why we shouldn’t be giving players who are a gamble long contracts…but that is probably the only way we can secure them!

    I expect all of the above to be moved on in the summer, one way or the other.

  • 92 Jib // Feb 3, 2016 at 12:47 PM

    I was thinking of Morecambe & Wise sketch, in which Eric Morecambe attempts to play Grieg’s Piano Concerto with André Previn.

  • 93 beermonkey // Feb 3, 2016 at 12:48 PM


    marveax and obertan should have had there contracts cancelled paid off and and got rid off

    problem is we don’t learn we gave thauvin a 5 year deal
    with all the foreign imports we don’t know what were getting or whether there gonna be good enough, 3 yr deals max with clauses for extra 2 years if they work out

    it would save us a fortune in the long run

  • 94 jayphoto // Feb 3, 2016 at 12:48 PM

    @beermonkey – to be fair, because of the clubs transfer policy of saying nothing we have no way of knowing if we were in for players or not. Found maddison going to Norwich over Spurs interesting as if I was a young English player from lower leagues Spurs would be my first pick over anyone.
    Pretty sure at 4m the club will have been in for Austin no doubt. They were in for Alli and he just chose Spurs. Nothing to do with money, he didn’t want to move north at his age. For 17-20 year old players this will probably be a factor some (not all) times. Toney was different as he didn’t get the option of a southern PL club.
    Thing is, money doesn’t buy everyone. Some players will look at things like progression, track record of improving players, exposure to international coaches. Unfortunately we lose out in a lot of those areas

  • 95 jayphoto // Feb 3, 2016 at 12:49 PM

    @beermonkey – dread to think what Thauvin is on? We more than doubled his Marseille wages and he was a high earner there…
    He didn’t even want to come in the first place but the wages were so high he couldn’t not come

  • 96 toonbrother // Feb 3, 2016 at 12:51 PM

    Lol we are the highest spenders in Europe and are still relying on colocinni at the back?
    With colour in the mix we are guaranteed to go down

  • 97 Jib // Feb 3, 2016 at 12:52 PM

  • 98 toonbrother // Feb 3, 2016 at 12:54 PM

    35% think we will win at Everton despite the fact we can’t keep a clean sheet to save our lives? Lololol
    Chances of victory today at Everton lie between slim and none

  • 99 Rotonda heights // Feb 3, 2016 at 12:54 PM


    Sadly Carr has now presided over


    and others

  • 100 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Feb 3, 2016 at 12:54 PM

    toonbrother…Colo is the least of our problems!

  • 101 Rotonda heights // Feb 3, 2016 at 12:56 PM


    you do have be the most boring one eyed prat going. Change the tune bud. Try one time not slagging Colo.

  • 102 will die for the toon army // Feb 3, 2016 at 12:56 PM


    You sell Colo who plays and you keep a sicknote in Taylor

  • 103 beermonkey // Feb 3, 2016 at 12:58 PM


    were a bit of a grave yard for youngsters coming through we never have a plan or a route for them to get into the first team
    I think this might have been a factor in kemen leaving in the summer
    McLaren has got arma and bigi out onloan and I hope Aarons goes out soon as well

    I wonder if we had more options would laschelles and darlow been out onloan again

  • 104 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Feb 3, 2016 at 1:01 PM

    To be fair here, and I think some of you aren’t. Haidara was never a bad buy, but he was bought as a backup a player for the future. A player like him need someone to learn from.

    Cabella did just fine here if you compare him to the other players that season. He was brought after a really impressive season in France.

    Thauvin is clearly a talented player, but we bought a player who hadn’t had a good season in two years and didn’t want to come here. He didn’t really get a chance either.

    Gouf was cheap and has been used out of position. He’s a forward not a LW in the British sense of the word. This is actually the problem with any foreign offensive wide player we buy.

    Marv was wasted on Pardew and injuries seem to have limited him. That’s what happens. Rivi I cannot explain. I doubt Carr recommended we bought him, but he was probably the only player scouted we could afford that would come here.

  • 105 Toonfan8 // Feb 3, 2016 at 1:08 PM

    will die for the toon army
    In ideall world I would sell them both, but Collo is big earner and S.Taylor is maybee on half of his wages. It is because of that and he is also HG player…

  • 106 Blofal // Feb 3, 2016 at 1:08 PM

    I got slated for putting a formation up yesterday.. but I still think McClaren is going to play a 3-5-2 with Townsend playing as a Left sided Wingback. I know that midfield 3 played badly against Watford. And I know Shelvey needs a defensive mid beside him. But McClaren isn’t going to drop Coloccini. If Lascelles plays its either in a 3-5-2 or a 3-4-2-1

    ——–Mbemba – Lascelles – Coloccini
    Janmaat —– Saivet—–Shelvey—–Townsend
    ————Sissoko ——- Wijnaldum

  • 107 jayphoto // Feb 3, 2016 at 1:08 PM

    Not a colo fan, but hes not as bad as made out to be or looks sometimes. Hes actually played quite well in recent months. In 2016 he’s outplayed mbemba for me.
    Defensively one problem we’ve had is for half a season we played both Anita and Colback and neither protected the back four. With Janmaat attacking so much really the DM should drop into the back 4 when the fullbacks went forward but neither VA nor JC did this leaving the centrebacks exposed. A centre pairing of Saivet and Shelvey should protect the defence better aswell as keep the ball a little better.
    Another problem is effectively we’ve had Gini or perez, a central player playing wide left most of the time. Love the gusy but they don’t really contribute to the defensive side of wide play and Dummett has been left exposed at left back a lot meaning coloccini has gone out to support him when really he should have stayed central.
    With the side we have now, we should see more balance and players playing their natural position which should see us concede less and score more.

  • 108 Munster Mag // Feb 3, 2016 at 1:14 PM

    Rotunda i am getting your pardew message loud and clear mate. I may yet be buying you that cyber pint 😀

  • 109 Oldgit1 // Feb 3, 2016 at 1:14 PM

    Will someone explain to me as to how we have all this money to spend now, but didn’t 2-3 years ago. What’s changed??

  • 110 Blofal // Feb 3, 2016 at 1:15 PM


    All we have done is spent the money we saved over the last 3 years.

  • 111 Our Toon // Feb 3, 2016 at 1:18 PM

    Heard something interesting today, turn out pards is breaking records again. First manager in top flight football to ever lose 5 games on the trot with 3 separate clubs.

    Normally I wouldn’t give 2 hoots about the bloke but the clamour on here from some who still believed he was some kind of messiah was laughable. Where are these people now?

  • 112 Oldgit1 // Feb 3, 2016 at 1:20 PM

    @ Blowfal thought it was because of Pardew perhaps they didn’t trust him with the money. But if the money was there why save it for a rainy day. Doesn’t make sense.

  • 113 WWSBRD // Feb 3, 2016 at 1:20 PM

    I hope ur wrong

  • 114 LGFUAD21 // Feb 3, 2016 at 1:22 PM


    I dont think the 3 at the back went as bad as people claimed.

    When we started loosing the grip on the game it was more down to what Watford were doing rather than our formation. Although there were a few moments where our 3 cbs looked confused.

    At other times, they looked more solid for it.

    I think the problem was Perez playing in that position.

    I’d still say its a better shout than playing a CB at RB ready to be skinned.

    May be a different story if Townsend is going to track back.

    Assuming Doumbia is out that would be my choice for tonight.

    Keep it tight, dont let their wide men get at us and as soon as we can get the ball to mitro, Sissoko, Wiji, Janmaat and Townsend need to be off like a flash to give him outlets


  • 115 Our Toon // Feb 3, 2016 at 1:22 PM

    Be interesting to see the line up for tonight. I’d be happy with a point.

    If we play without a ball winner then we’ll lose, hopefully Shelvey sticks to doing the basics rather than trying to go Hollywood all the time.

  • 116 Our Toon // Feb 3, 2016 at 1:26 PM


    Like the team mate but remember down the right and our left they’ll have Coleman and Delefou, Townsend as a wing back would be a disaster.

    Not sure who’s fit but Colback at LB unless Dummett is fit.

    Jan, Mbemba, Colo, Dummett
    Tiote, Shelvey
    Sissoko, Wij Townsend

  • 117 WWSBRD // Feb 3, 2016 at 1:29 PM

    Same team that hammer West Ham but Townsend on the left

  • 118 jayphoto // Feb 3, 2016 at 1:34 PM

    Definitely think the way to beat everton is to get at them. They have a lot going forward but theyre shaky defensively. They’ll be room to get behind the fullbacks for Sissoko and Townsend and hopefully Gini can get beyond Mitrovic a few times. Shelvey seems to be able to pick out players at will. Can’t wait to see how he links with Doumbia though guessing we won’t see that for a few weeks!

  • 119 dok - the horrid colonial // Feb 3, 2016 at 1:36 PM

    gmorning all,

    I feel a win today, but will not vote, the votebar jinx and all…

  • 120 Jail for Ashley // Feb 3, 2016 at 1:37 PM

    I’d swap Perez for Sisssoko in that.

  • 121 LGFUAD21 // Feb 3, 2016 at 1:37 PM

    Our Toon


    I think its a big ask without a LB.

    Thats why U opted for a 3 at the back with Townsend as a wing back.

    His work rate is good enough and you dont necessarily have to be a good tackler to play LWB, just a good marker with pace.

    I see it as a choice between:
    Fielding a CB as a LB in a back 4 and have them skinned by Everton’s wide men.


    Fielding a Winger as a LWB and a back 3 that would be better equipped to track Everton’s runners leaving an extra body at the back to nullify the threat as it approaches our box.

    The former requires a winger playing babysitter while the latter gives the winger more freedom to attack when the chance opens up.

    Regardless our defence is going to need an absolute shift of support from the CMs and I think the attacking is going to have to left to Wiji, Mitro and the wide men with a little help from Shelvey’s champagne passes.

    We’re not going to dominate possession against everton and we cant open ourselves up. They cant defend so we’re better of playing smart and looking to counter.

  • 122 Sliema // Feb 3, 2016 at 1:37 PM

    Not Tiote’s biggest fan as I feel he is a a very negative passer of the ball, this makes him impossible to partner with Colback or Anita imho (who literally cannot pass the ball in a forward direction)… I do think he could do a job paired with Shelvey however, and I seem to like our shape a bit better in the middle when he plays.

    Colback Shelvey 1st choice CM pairing for me and if Dummet (and Haidara tbf) is injured Jackie-boy can fill in at LB and Tiote should play.

  • 123 LGFUAD21 // Feb 3, 2016 at 1:38 PM

    Dummets not fit is he?

  • 124 Jib // Feb 3, 2016 at 1:38 PM

    For tonight

  • 125 WWSBRD // Feb 3, 2016 at 1:40 PM

    Dummett has been in full training for 4/5 days hasn’t he? Thought I read that from McClaren

    Assumed he was marked as ‘doubtful’ which normally sees him start the match

  • 126 Our Toon // Feb 3, 2016 at 1:48 PM


    I do like Perez but the pace of sissoko on the counter will be key, Perez far to often tries doing to much with his head down. Ayoze off the bench though would

    LGFUAD – the problem with the 3cbs is the space for del boy to get crosses in. It’s asking for trouble and Townsend defensively….not sure what he’ll be like

  • 127 The Diamond dogs hoojars // Feb 3, 2016 at 1:49 PM

    Does anyone beleive for one min that Mclaren would not have any excuses ready should we go down, the board backed the club in the summer we are in the relegation zone worst start ever and all he has done is say we have played fantastic but have been unlucky, if the worst comes to the worst, then this man Mclaren should be sacked asap as well as Charnley, no second chances its been a disaster of a season so far, in fact he should hand in his resignation as soon as if he had any dignity if the drop happened.

    We have spent close to 100 million and i take in to account we would not have spent that much in this window if we had been in mid table lets say, people are employed to do a job Mike, so far it aint getting done, your value for money isnt working, in any other business they may well have already been sacked, the clock is ticking Shteve.

  • 128 catchy in norway // Feb 3, 2016 at 1:53 PM

    come on guys , i think a lot of you a being very unfair on Carr, a lot of the players that Carr signed actually started quiet good, but ended up being benched for the purple bregade,
    we all know where the term pardewed came from, and it wasnt because Carr had signed him duff players, Carr never signed any of palace’s players but the pardewed affect seems to be in full swing there right now, he is the only manager in prem history to have managed 2 prem clubs for a 5 match losing streak, not scoring goals and conceding them for fun..

    i think its only fair to look back at the players that did not make it and aportion most of the blame at P45s feet not Carrs,

    PS Obertan was a P45 signing,, just for the record..

  • 129 bettyswallocks // Feb 3, 2016 at 1:53 PM

    Jesper……. I agree with all of that. It was the best , most original post you’ve made.

    Jib…. Ah. OK I remember that sketch. Hilarious.

  • 130 jayphoto // Feb 3, 2016 at 1:58 PM

    to be fair, most teams with 100m outlay in one season on top of what was already there would expect to be top 6.
    Im fairly confident that if Middlesborough or Derby came up and spent close to 100m they would at least expect top 8/10?
    Club/manager has no excuses from now till the end of the season for me!
    I’ve seen sides with less than we’ve got available here finish top 6.

  • 131 JAMSHA // Feb 3, 2016 at 2:00 PM

    Any News On Doumbia? got His Visa?

  • 132 toon kk // Feb 3, 2016 at 2:04 PM

    Will we win tonight? I doubt it our survival of premier league status will rely on Doumbia hitting the ground running. Unfortunately until he gets his visa we’re basically playing without any striker’s. Mitrovic has quality’s but is not natural goal scorer, not yet anyway.

  • 133 Toonfan8 // Feb 3, 2016 at 2:10 PM

    I expect this side for today…..

  • 134 jayphoto // Feb 3, 2016 at 2:11 PM

    @JAMSHA – they won’t disclose if he got a visa or not I bet until an hour before kick off. Doesn’t give Everton room to plan around it!

  • 135 catchy in norway // Feb 3, 2016 at 2:13 PM


    i think if you play on a computer them you are 100% correct,, but reality was and is that Shteve took over a club that had no positivity about it at all, everything from top to bottom was negativity, Shteve has had a massive job just instilling some confidence into th e club.

    also, please remember that our first 8 games were against the top 7 clubs from last season + watford..

    you mention both Derby and Boro sending 100 Mil and expecting top 10, you are right,, but what they have is a winning mentality that has been built up over a full season, and every year the teams that come up, always start off well, them drift towards the rlegation zone once rellity sets in,,, i think next season, they will need to spend 100 mil to stay in this divsion, all the clubs will be spending for fun, and they have the biggest changes to make

  • 136 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Feb 3, 2016 at 2:18 PM

    Jay…I think every great Football Club has an outstanding GK so I would be very worried if Elliott was our #1 next season!

    You might be right about the players leaving as well. For the sake of the argument lets say Elliott won’t be first choice who would you like for us to go after?

    I never recommend Danes on here for various of reasons, but I would actually go for Schmeichel at Leicester to be honest.

  • 137 Laurent Robert 32 // Feb 3, 2016 at 2:21 PM

    Is it literally immediately upon receiving via communication that Doumbia can play? Say at 6pm or 7pm even? I assume so.

  • 138 Laurent Robert 32 // Feb 3, 2016 at 2:22 PM


  • 139 Mister Tuff // Feb 3, 2016 at 2:30 PM

    Yesterday I posted stuff about Doumbia getting his GBE and Home Office Work Permit – assuming that there would not be any problems.- all sorted out by electronic communications.
    Looking at it further I am now having some doubts – this is the rule that players will have had to play 75% of A games over the last 2 years -for which they were available. Clearly Ivory Coast fulfils the team standard requirements but now I not so sure the player ticks all the boxes.
    Did he not retire from Internaionals. Not sure how many A games Ivory Coast have had -and whether Doumbia was fit/injures etc etc. -therefore available/not available. Too many unknown quantities to work this out so I question whether he will get his GBE and Work Permit -without a sitting by the panel or if at all. I’ sure we’ll find out in due course.
    If he does not get in we are in the claggy.

  • 140 AncientC // Feb 3, 2016 at 2:36 PM

    If you take a look at the squad for last season, I honestly cannot understand why Carr comes in for criticism. The side had survived without a net spend since coming up from the Championship.

    Summer 2015 – the club starts to witness some investment, 3 out of the 4 signings look sound. The club reportedly paid around 8 million for Cabella, and recouped 6 million of that without seeing what he could do under new coaches. The only questionable signing has been Thauvin, which was a gamble built on paving the way for Cabella to leave.

    You cannot honestly expect Carr to have 100% successful return on cheap recruits. If you could go to France and build a team of world beaters, with a majority of recruits being between free to £4million signings, every club would be doing it.

    This was the side put out the last time the club visited Goodison Park:

    Newcastle United (4-2-3-1): Tim Krul; Daryl Janmaat, Mike Williamson, Fabricio Coloccini (c), Ryan Taylor; Moussa Sissoko, Jack Colback; Gabriel Obertan (Ayoze Perez 46), Yoan Gouffran, Sammy Ameobi (Remy Cabella 58); Emmanuel Riviere (Jonas Gutierrez 62)

    Question how much the above side cost. Threadbare team built on a threadbare budget.

  • 141 toon kk // Feb 3, 2016 at 2:38 PM

    My prediction until the end of the season
    5 wins
    3 draws
    7 losses

    I still think it will go down to the wire.

  • 142 Rotonda heights // Feb 3, 2016 at 2:39 PM

    Again another must read for Ed, mag 52, manxpie and munster

  • 143 archaeomag // Feb 3, 2016 at 2:43 PM

    Georginio Wijnaldum looks ahead to Newcastle’s game at Everton

  • 144 Essex Geordie Bill // Feb 3, 2016 at 2:46 PM

    Us last season.

    We’re safe on 33 points.
    We’re relatively safe on 33 points.
    Er. I think we are safe on 33 points.
    Hmm I think we need a few more points on the board.
    Starting to look a bit sticky on 33 points.
    Oh dear.
    We’re going down.
    Phew, that was close.

    Ditto the above for Crystal Palace, perhaps, except for the last bit.

    Now that would be funny, especially if they were to ship Carver in to save the day.

  • 145 manxpie // Feb 3, 2016 at 2:51 PM

    Rotunda i don’t give a fusk Wat pardew is doing your obsession is comical tho, for the last time I will state I said that Wat was wrong with the club wasn’t all pardews fault! The squad was shit and some of the players weren’t up to it
    you had said it was the best squad ever!
    And look right now after 80 mill spent the squad still isn’t finished or balanced or indeed good enough
    when pardew had the 1st 11 on the pitch we did well once injuries kicked in it showed how crap the replacements were and it turned to shit as well as not replacing sold best players again not his fault
    simple really even now he doesn’t have a goal scorer so they not gonna win many
    Bournemouth had a scorer at start of season and started well lost him and it turned to shit, they’ve done well in buying another one and look there results are much better and there moving up the league
    if we had a top striker in the ba mould do you think we would be anywhere near the relegation zone?
    It’s not rocket science we haven’t scored enough even tho creating many great chances
    villa us scum and Norwich haven’t got good or great goal scorers that’s why we are where we are and that’s why palace are dropping too

  • 146 reilly // Feb 3, 2016 at 2:57 PM

    the percy crew are back tracking quicker than wacko jacko doing the

  • 147 archaeomag // Feb 3, 2016 at 3:04 PM

    @reilly 146
    I knew it would not be a very long wait before I could wheel out the special word I have saved for this moment –

  • 148 Hail Wor Ashley // Feb 3, 2016 at 3:19 PM

    Mitro and Perez together is a bad idea tonight.

    They aren’t great together anyway and knowing Doumbia is waiting in the wings, they’ll naturally be prone to trying to grab the headlines themselves rather than work as a partnership. Mitro also doesn’t have the temperament to play away from home, Perez will be on a high and has the discipline to work hard and never let up, plus he takes a greater number of the chances that come his way.

    The only case I can see for Mitro is that he helps aerially at set-pieces, but I’d rather we focused on hurting them.

  • 149 Jib // Feb 3, 2016 at 3:20 PM

    Apart from Gordom Lee there is no Newcastle manager I really disliked.

    Of those I really liked SBR , Chris Hughton , Keegan (as a manager) are standouts.

    The rest were either not very good or OK nothing more nothing less.

    The way some obsess about Pardew (in my not very good category ) says one thing to me.

    I may be wrong but I think they are latecomers in their support of the Toon.

  • 150 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 3, 2016 at 3:25 PM

    Any news on Doumbia?

  • 151 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Feb 3, 2016 at 3:25 PM

    Jeff…you are always wrong and mostly say stuff people don’t care about! You are just Duracell bunny! You won’t quite! Why do you think that is?

  • 152 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 3, 2016 at 3:26 PM

    Anyone having problems today? I can post from my phone but not my laptop its weird

  • 153 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Feb 3, 2016 at 3:28 PM

    *just like a…

  • 154 Rotonda heights // Feb 3, 2016 at 3:30 PM


    Oh look it’s a Wednesday so you must be talking b—-s as per. KK and SBR were great. How does calling out AP as a c–p manager make anyone a latecomer. Honestly if s–t was music you’d be an orchestra.

  • 155 manxpie // Feb 3, 2016 at 3:30 PM

    Perez for me should start tonight but don’t think he will as town send is a definite unless we do go 442 with gini dropping back but I don’t think that’s a good idea either
    I’m going for a draw as as bad as Everton a home form is are away one isn’t exactly great is it?

  • 156 Bambams // Feb 3, 2016 at 3:31 PM

    I think there will be goals tonight…..I have also just read Everton and no spot kicks this season !!!!
    We need 3 points tonight, they are there to be beaten. Toon to win by one goal

  • 157 manxpie // Feb 3, 2016 at 3:33 PM

    Are= our

  • 158 Jib // Feb 3, 2016 at 3:37 PM

    Just a random thought thrown out there for dicussion , no more.
    Loosen your stays and take deep breaths.

    I think I may have struck a chord with the wee Danish pastry his support is a bit buttefly – like.

    He used to support Sampdoria when Sven Goran managed them and now us – it must be difficult when you come from a country with no decent footy teams.

  • 159 manxpie // Feb 3, 2016 at 3:38 PM

    I wouldn’t mind seeing martinez having a good whine at around 10 o’clock as well always cheers me up

  • 160 archaeomag // Feb 3, 2016 at 3:38 PM

    @Rotonda heights
    Lest we forget
    J F K !

  • 161 Mister Tuff // Feb 3, 2016 at 3:40 PM

    yippeee yippeee a blog competition,
    Jespers ask why Jib won’t quit.

    I’d like a stab at this.
    Is it because he’s a knobber.

  • 162 Rotonda heights // Feb 3, 2016 at 3:44 PM


    Funny how I never really exected you to have the good grace and put your hand and say oh maybe you were wrong when I said AP always has initial good starts and then inevitably bombs and gets found out wherever he goes.

    You were told so many times that AP has no plan B, regardess of club, squad, money spent etc etc.

    Do you really think AP could do what Ranieri has done with a fraction of the money CP have spent. AP had half the French national team at one point at NUFC and at WHU had Tevez and Mascherano.

    All of a sudden golden boy cabaye on 100k a week doesn’t look quite so great and no wonder they didn’t trust him spending more money at NUFC when he buys Whickham for 9M and it’s widely suggested Obertan was his shout too.

    SM is by no means a dream replacement but karma is a wonderful thing to all the blowhards who slagged off the sackpardew campaign.

  • 163 Jib // Feb 3, 2016 at 3:46 PM

    Joe Kinnear is a good case in point , he defo comes into the not very good category ,but I find it very difficult to really dislike the man.

  • 164 manxpie // Feb 3, 2016 at 3:48 PM

    Rotonda as i said i couldn’t give a fusk
    and that’s the last on it
    your obsession is worrying
    you haven’t proven anything full stop

  • 165 jayphoto // Feb 3, 2016 at 3:52 PM

    @Jesper – I would go for Sommer from Borussia Moechengladbach! One hell of a keeper! Probably cost an arm and a leg mind but we’re in a position to pay much more than non Bayern German clubs!

  • 166 jayphoto // Feb 3, 2016 at 3:54 PM

    On the goalkeeping note, there are rumours that Man City may pay out Bravos buy out clause of 30m. Be really interesting if that happened. Where would Hart go? Not many that could afford him would need him…

  • 167 Jib // Feb 3, 2016 at 3:54 PM

    I’m thinking by Rotonda’s reaction he’s another Johnny come lately just like the goons who have taken over the Mag and we know Mr Tuff was a Mackem until King Kev turned up 😀

  • 168 lukes26 // Feb 3, 2016 at 3:54 PM


    I think people’s opinions on Pardew was totally based on their first impressions.

    Pardew took over for Hughton, who was very popular & most supporters saw this as a needless stab in the back. Pardew had a mountain to climb to win those people over & obviously never came close.

    Crystal Palace supporters love Pardew, because it fits their narrative of a prodigal hero returning. Newcastle fans hated him because the narrative from the beginning was always a negative one.

    The idea that people are ecstatic that CP have lost 5 games is farcical, especially since they are 10 pts ahead of us.

  • 169 archaeomag // Feb 3, 2016 at 3:57 PM

    I agree with that – pity but not hate.

  • 170 jayphoto // Feb 3, 2016 at 3:58 PM

    @Jib – I remember managers back only as far as Ardiles but I’d put Pardew high up on list of my least favourite Newcastle managers. Mainly because he could of achieved much more, he alienated star talents, also hated him in his smug interviews.
    Similar to Big Sam though he didn’t have as good a side but really didn’t like the guy!
    Used to loathe Kenny Dalglish too for what he did to Keegans side but to be fair, I’ve met Dalglish since and the guys a gent, kinda took the edge of my dislike.
    Id happily say its between Big Sam and Pardew for my least liked toon manager and I don’t consider myself that late to the party

  • 171 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 3, 2016 at 4:00 PM

    Ruud Gullit was a pretty rubbish manager

  • 172 AncientC // Feb 3, 2016 at 4:02 PM

    100k (or anything near that) per week for Cabaye is criminal. I distinctly remember Cabaye going backwards after his first season, only to show some form after going on strike, so that he could play for a move to another club. Professionalism aside, he had as many bad games as good.

    I can remember some of Cabaye’s through-balls heading in the direction of the corner flag.

  • 173 manxpie // Feb 3, 2016 at 4:06 PM

    Luke exactly people who don’t take circumstances into consideration and there’s a hell of a lot of them in football can’t say there point is proven

  • 174 mattyNUFC // Feb 3, 2016 at 4:10 PM

    ancient C

    agreed. cabs is overrated if im honest. when he was injured and guthrie took his place in cabs first year with us, i thought it was criminal guthrie lost his spot (based on current form, mind). thatwas the one patch DG played to his potential ans cabs was pretty crap then

  • 175 Jib // Feb 3, 2016 at 4:12 PM

    To his credit I saw an interview lately where Gullit acknowledged he got things wrong at NUFC .He referred to the dropping of Shearer as him trying to show who was boss which he now says was stupid and arrogant of him.

    Big Al and Ruud have long since moved on and are pretty friendly.

  • 176 geordieboy83 // Feb 3, 2016 at 4:13 PM

    Jayphoto and lukes have about the right balance regarding pardew I think.

    The bloke replaced the extremely likeable hughton, and unfortunately was polar opposite in terms of likeability. Pardew alienated players which always seemed to be the ones the fans liked, had double standards for example Ben arfa was punished for not much where as cabaye refused to play but Alan had his tongue planted so far between yohans backside he was tickling his gooch with his tongue.

    He blamed the fans and never saw his own shortcomings, I can forgive any man who at least has the ability to be a little bit humble, despite there abject failures, but standin by your own inadequacies with no room for criticism is just shallow, stubborn and down right childish. I expect better from my 3 year old.

    Would just like to add though who gives a sh1t about this one upmanship on this blog, people liked pardew, people didn’t, who cares. He ain’t here, let it lie. Tuff and rotonda both are very good contributors imo but again stop with the bellyaching bull crap. Tuff leave jib to it, it looks daft just jumping on everything he talks about, just chat about footy mate makes for more interesting reading.

    P.s think we will lose tonight people I think are forgetting how potent Everton can be and how categorically crap we tend to be at goodison

  • 177 ToonDan // Feb 3, 2016 at 5:35 PM

    Ssn say Doumbia has received his visa, will he start tonight though?

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