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Newcastle Manager Should Be Fired Before It’s Too Late

11:55 am, Thursday, February 4th, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 122 Comments

The goals for this season following the complete and utter nightmare of last season were to get in the top eight in the Premier League and to win a cup.

That followed last season and a certain John Carver who lost eight Premier League games in a row for the first time ever and he almost had us relegated.

There is no chance of winning a cup since we went out at the second hurdle of the League Cup and at the first hurdle of the FA Cup.

So we are nowhere near our targets for this season following the disasters of last season.

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Steve McClaren – a familiar pose at Newcastle

It was also our worst-ever start in out history after 8 games when we collected only 3 points – three draws – and for the first time in our Premier League history we have been in the basement of the league all season fighting relegation.

That has never happened before.

We are currently third bottom and have just spent close to £29M on new players last month and in total our £81M investment over the last two transfer windows in new players is the most of any Premier League club.

So if we have spent so much money on some good players – expensive players at the very least  – what does that tell you?

It says that that head coach Steve McClaren isn’t up to the job, because he simply is not getting the best out of his players.

Don’t believe coaches like Steve Stone who say the Newcastle players are not good enough – he has an invested interest in saying that because he was the assistant to John Carver in last season’s disaster.

And after McClaren was ignominiously fired from Derby County last May you will have to ask Lee Charnley why on earth he thought he was the right choice for Newcastle, when other better coaches were available.

He wasn’t good enough for Derby County but he was good enough for Newcastle United?

We were hoping and praying things would pick up this season and we have tried to be patient.

But now things are getting really serious and we have taken only 4 points out of the last 28 points played for – and last night the way the team played and even lost their discipline at the end of a 3-0 rout at Goodison Park was nothing less than a complete disgrace to the club.

What more does Steve McClaren have to do to be fired by Newcastle?

But don’t expect Lee Charnley to do the firing, because he appointed Steve in the first place and to fire him would validate it was the second calamitous appointment Lee has made for head coach at Newcastle in the last year.

You could point to those two appointments of John Carver and Steve McClaren as the one big reason we have been so pathetic over this last year.

It’s simple – if Steve stays in the job it is a cast iron certainty we will be relegated in May – and don’t expect Steve to bring us up from the Championship at the first attempt.

It will not happen.

So while there’s still time and good managers are available and may still want to come in and try to save Newcastle – we have some good players in the squad after all and a newly ambitious owner – now’s the time for Mike Ashley to take action.

If he leaves it too long nobody will want to touch Newcastle, because we will be almost certainly be relegated and become a Championship club again.

Here’s Steve’s woeful record at Newcastle that would have seen him fired at any other Premier League club.

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But what other Premier League club would have hired him last May in the first place after he was fired by Derby County?

Tags: Coaching · Management · Newcastle News · Other News · Premier League

122 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Wayayman // Feb 4, 2016 at 11:57 AM


    Posada I totally agree on the fullback comment. How infuriating that McClaren played a young inexperienced left sided attacker just back from a long term injury in LB for the 2nd half and had another left sided attacker switch to the right and the right footed midfielder go to the left when Mitro came on!?!
    Talks about playing to peoples strengths, it makes me wonder how much Schteve really trusts his players.

  • 2 smoke beer, drink tabs // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:00 PM

    Sick of hearing that the club now have ambition. If they had spent money over the last few seasons we wouldn’t be in this mess and we wouldn’t have had to buy splash 80m in 6 months. They are just spending now what the should have done years ago

  • 3 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:05 PM

    “Blackley @96 if you seriously think our midfield last night wasnt the problem then you to watch the game again.”

    I’ve said attack and defence are the priority areas. We’ve got no one to score goals and our defence is shit. I was underwhelmed by the signings of Shelvey, Saivet and Townsend when most others were saying it’s a good window. These boys ate the solution. Our defence and attack will now perform.

    Of course if you’ve got an improved midfield it will help your defence and attack. But our defrnce and attack are so inadequate, they needed to be improved directly not indirectly.

    It all hangs on Doumbia now.

  • 4 clinath@ed // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:06 PM

    To me, it is becoming more and more apparent that SM is unable to motivate these players. Before anyone says they shouldn’t need motivating, we are talking about young men in their mid 20s, most of whom are millionaires and could stop playing now and still be well off for the rest of their lives. Of course they need motivating.

  • 5 Goldmbemba // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:07 PM

    I think what some people are forgetting is that the team has had a big shake up over the last 2 windows, and yes like it or not it takes time for them to gel.

    Im not surprised at the everton result (although it sounds like the performance was terrible) because Everton for all their inconsistency are a better team with better players than us. Plus they were playing at home.

    Im prepared to see how we do at home against west brom before joining the steve out campaign. Not because hes a good manager but because if we dont win that, we really are going down.

  • 6 leedavid2015 // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:08 PM

    Aarons is not a left back and Perez not a lone striker! The players had no faith in the set from the start which is why they just defended and gave up possession, no point in going forward with that line up. A new manager now could give the players a lift and i think wehave some very good players, they are just not playing for McC, McClueless has to go.

  • 7 terencelim // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:08 PM

    And Mike Ashley will hire another puppet. Fact.

  • 8 ilovetoon8788 // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:10 PM

    draw or loss at West Brom and we should preparing for Championship.

  • 9 BarcelonaMag // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:11 PM

    It’s all a question of the club’s ethos. The lack of ambition from the top just percolates downwards. If we tried to finish in the top half of the table we’d probably finish in the middle. If we “aim” to finish mid-table we end up where we are: at the bottom.

  • 10 Wandering Geordie // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:12 PM

    He buys a winger and striker.Drops our target man and has our new striker on bench,for the winger to supply crosses to Perez.When I saw the two strikers on bench,I immediately knew we were in for a bad night.Schteve has to go now.Bring in Mourinho at all costs

  • 11 Wayayman // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:14 PM

    I’d be up for sacking McClaren if it wasn’t for the fact that we’d just get another dinosaur, middle of the road British manager who can’t even spell progresive. I mean progrressive. Proggreseive? Oh fck it… 😉

  • 12 reilly // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:19 PM

    look at watford and leicester,there squads arnt better than ours there just better organised.
    mcclaren has to go before its to late.

  • 13 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:19 PM

    Haha Ed…very true 😉

    So have Charnley…twice actually!

  • 14 Rotonda heights // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:19 PM


    progressive, but know what you mean, you’re spot on.


    plenty of others but these clowns will ironically ” play safe” with as you say another failed, mediocre, middle of the road Brit manager.

  • 15 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:20 PM

    Ed, you repeatedly make the point that we need a striker. Someone to score goals. We haven’t got one. If you can’t score goals what’s your game plan? You were one of those who have been pleased with all the money spent. Yet, before Doumbia has played, you’re calling for Makro to be sacked. The ink is still wet on the cheques and you’re reacting after a defeat.

  • 16 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:21 PM

    Time to go Macca

    Replace with any of:
    Jose Mourinho
    David Moyes
    Rafa Benitez
    Brendan Rodgers
    Gary monk

  • 17 Goldmbemba // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:22 PM

    The managerial problem for me is who would realistically come in to manage us?

    Rodgers? he thinks we’re below him
    Moyes, could do better than us i think
    Mourinho??! lol
    Laudrup – isnt he somewhere else now?

    I just think we are such an unsteady ship right now that a lot of managers wont touch us.
    I will say one thing though, im glad we didnt get Garde. He just seems the wrong person for a dogfight, what on earth was his motivation for going to villa.

    I think they’ll come straight back up though.

  • 18 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:22 PM

    But after spending £80M it would very counter productive to have to fire McM…granted it could be our only option if things doesn’t change.

    I hope it does and I hope Charnley will be the one sacrificed this time.

  • 19 Jail for Ashley // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:23 PM

    I see the topic of Ashley intervening has arisen again, are you going to explain in what way he intervened last season when things got nasty.

  • 20 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:24 PM

    Unless Doumbia is the real deal, even Mourinho would fail. No goal scorers and a shit defence. Mourinho would take one look at Carr’s recruits and say “thanks, but no thanks”.

  • 21 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:24 PM

    Rotonda…I think Sampaoli will be Chelsea’s new manager?

  • 22 JeanDavidGinola // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:24 PM

    I don’t think Schteve has a clue what he’s doing, he doesn’t seem to have any tactical nous, someone should have the guts to fire him or he should have the good grace to step aside now before things get worse

  • 23 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:25 PM

    John Carver had the same problem.

  • 24 Toon-Prodigy // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:25 PM

    There is no quick fix. It was never going to be an easy task to turn it around with such neglect of the first team squad over the last however many years. The new players havn’t been here 5 minutes give them time.

    It’s all too easy to point the fingers at managers, for me it’s a collective effort which starts from Ashley’s blueprint right down to the players who just havn’t been good enough on the pitch. Lack of leadership and experience because of the age gap and love of the French bargain on cheaper wages.

    Newcastle have made all their own problems and now it’s a slow and painful turn around. Managers have had an impossible task at this club over the last 8 years they are not the major problem.

    For me, we won’t go down. Im sure of it.

  • 25 Goldmbemba // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:26 PM

    Can anyone explain about the TV money from next season – is it going to be bigger from every season from now on, OR is next season going to bring more money than those afterwards?

    Yes we want to be in the prem next year, but if we could come straight back after relegation would it be so bad in the medium term financially? Parachute payments and all that to tick us over…

  • 26 Jail for Ashley // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:26 PM

    It is looking increasingly like a three horse race between us, the mackems and Norwich, the mackems have been in this position every year and are getting good at it, not sure about Norwich Are we just going to sit by sorting out deck chairs. From Mclarens own words ‘it’s like watching a car crash in slow motion, you know it’s going to happen but can’t do anything about it’ fcukin Churchillian that like!

  • 27 Wayayman // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:27 PM

    Rotunda @ 14, I was joking about the spelling…

  • 28 dalton7675 // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:28 PM

    I reckon Rodgers would jump at the chance he’d be my first choice followed closely by moyes.
    Mclauren out he’s had half a season and has been woeful so far all I see on Facebook off other fans is with that squad we shouldn’t be where we are now and they are right he’s not getting the best out of the players and is playing out dated formations with old school tactics that sadly don’t cut it in the premier league. We need to act fast or wered going down

  • 29 Goldmbemba // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:28 PM


    What are your reasons for thinking we’ll survive?

    I hope you’re right but as the weeks go by im more doubtful. Im consoling myself by remembering leicseters great escape, and how 3/4 wins with some momentum would see us out of it.

  • 30 richyg01 // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:28 PM

    IF he went:

    1. WHO would WANT to come here and manage?

    2. WHO out of the ones who actually wanted to come would you want to manage the team?

  • 31 Rotonda heights // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:30 PM

    wayayman I know..!!

  • 32 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:33 PM

    Jail…I’ll bite this time, but there will be no follow to your 20 questions.

    When the season was at a close and relegation was in the hands of our last game (after criticism after moved beyond just Pardew) he came out and addressed the reporters and the fans.

    Now Jail before you bite, and we all know you will, I never said I believe one word coming from him. But he came out and took responsibility. In the aftermath of this the following has happened:

    1. Charnley has been instructed to find a new manager
    2. Completely new staff for the appointed manager
    3. Transfer founds have been allocated (regardless of how I see them used)
    4. The appointed manager got the players he wanted in January
    5. It seems he also intervene in the signing process of Townsend, but who knows what to believe.

    *Know this, I will not entertain the following of your ludicrous questions only designed to spin your BS 😉

  • 33 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:33 PM

    *follow up

  • 34 Jail for Ashley // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:33 PM

    Jeezus TP,
    What is it with you and not being prepared to put any blame at all on the manager, he was a sacked Championship guy with worse form than JC who was more than willing to sign up to the clubs policies, he is every bit to blame as his boss and fellow board members, he is totally inadequate for the job, how many PL clubs sacked a manager while he was in charge of Forest and Derby, why was it none of them wanted a Dutch title winning Ex England manager, because he’s pap !

  • 35 spitfire_ // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:34 PM

    He won’t be fired. Get real. He just was backed in the transfer window, which was closed just two days ago. If, and this s a big IF, he get the sack, this will be in the best case in the start of March a.k.a far too late.

  • 36 posada // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:38 PM


    I think you have touched on it there. The players had no confidence in what they were being asked to do.
    Saivet. Some still saying he played ok. If you do not track runners you give the opposition what everyone wants on a football field. A free man with time and space.
    Colback and Shelvey played well for a half against West Ham. That is because they have both been coached to play CM since they were kids. They could play like that for me if I was the manager. It would take no explaining they would just get on with it. But as soon as we move away from that its a disaster.
    West Brom. If it is a no show we really should give Mc the white hankerchief treatment as the do in Spain.
    It would be deserved.

  • 37 Jail for Ashley // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:38 PM

    I wasn’t trying to get you to bite, just answer a simple question was all, was that so hard.
    So now we know that that’s what you meant by Ashley intervening when things got nasty.
    He said go and get a manager, we haven’t got one and he gave his first interview in almost seven years. Bravo Mikey, bravo!

  • 38 Rotonda heights // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:40 PM


    Would be awesome. Change the face of NUFC forever. sadly Charnley will never even have heard of him.

    We have an owner who knows nada about football. Also just don’t get that we get a Charnley who also knows zilch about football but other properly run clubs have proper footballing MDs / D.O.Fs etc with a footballing background / experience as well as business.

    Secondly an 80 year old scout who was an extremely poor and failed manager back in the day.

    Oh I’m going to stop, doing my head in it’s so depressing.

  • 39 Jail for Ashley // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:40 PM

    It just rest on the WBA game, if we don’t win that then they seriously need to sack him.

  • 40 Jail for Ashley // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:41 PM

    1,2,3,4, and 5 were this season as well, not last season like you said!

  • 41 banjax // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:42 PM

    A manager with a better pedigree would be a great asset in persuading top players to join our club and more importantly clamp down on players who don’t put 110% into playing on the pitch.

  • 42 Jail for Ashley // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:42 PM

    Carr seems to get years added every time we lose!

  • 43 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:43 PM

    Rotonda…I think Sampaoli is Chelsea bound mate 😉

    Charnley will get you someone like Moyes or Rodgers…if you are lucky!

  • 44 SPRINGY // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:44 PM

    afternoon all
    another load last night and macca seemed clueless with the team selection,the players either looked knackered,talentless,unenthusiastic or just clueless to what they were meant to be doing,we struggled on with players lacking fitness,confidence and being played out of position did’nt help….the players have no fear factor…they can turn up and however they play, it does’nt really matter to them, coz they know the manager will play them the following week,whether its coz he has to because the squad is’nt strong enough or he’s to spineless to have ago….its down to the players now….even if “the special one” came in i dont think much would change…not that it would ever happen…mourinho is a good manager with money,and he would never take a challenge like newcastle on as there is more chance of failure then success,bobby was robson was special he came in when we were poor and made a great team…but like i said no matter the manager its the players that are the only ones hwo can get us out this… they want to?…..are they good enough to?….not from what i’ve seen so far.

  • 45 posada // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:46 PM

    Accountants and business people do not understand football management. In particular they find it difficult to back the genius of a trully great manager. Like a Brian Clough. In fact it scares them to death. They just do not get what they are backing.
    So, instead they go for someone they can relate to. In this case the just credible appointment of SM. His patter, approach and even communication with the supporters is great.
    Only thing he is not good at is getting the best out of the team, which becomes apparent every time we play a game.

  • 46 Toon-Prodigy // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:47 PM


    I think there is enough quality in the first team to make it over the line.


    It’s a collective effort for me. I never have singled out managers because of the way this club has been ran over the past 8 years. It’s impossible for me to judge them correctly with the mind boggling policies that have been in place and poor recruitment until now.

    It’s not mentioned that often on here but injuries and the jump in class to our back up players is staggering. The neglect and recruitment policies have caused more damage than any manager could ever do.

    Until we fix the squad no manager has much of a chance at succeeding here.

    Atleast we have started to correct the problems, this gives me hope that they now know the policies have hurt the club greatly. There won’t be a change over night it’s going to take time and another window where we can bring in more experience and quality and shift the poor players out.

    Disappointed Doumbia didn’t play, does he have fitness problems?

  • 47 mad-serb // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:48 PM

    Best thing the players and coaching staff can do after that performances is refund the fans that had to pay for that showing. Not performance was not fit of a premiere league side and apart from Elliot and Janmaat should be ashamed of themselves for that.

    And Arons should get nowhere close to the first team. Go watch him from the start of the second half. instead of giving his all he look like he did not want to play probably because he was a bit out of position but still. Most young players would play anywhere when given a chance he cleary did not give a shyte. His attacking play was even worse than his defending.


  • 48 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:49 PM

    TP…it seems Doumbia haven’t played or trained much.

  • 49 SPRINGY // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:51 PM

    toon prodigy
    doumbia last played at the end of november when the russian league broke for winter break….so he’ll not be sharp…my thinkin is he may of got a run out last night but the injuries forced our hand…i doubt he would of trained with the team anyways tbh

  • 50 Rotonda heights // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:54 PM

    manxpie // Feb 3, 2016 at 11:51 PM

    again ourtoon i’ll refer you to the point rotonda made that we had half the french team (which is bollicks) for a start

    – – – – – – – – – – – –

    Just off hand

    – – – – – – –

    Do try and get something right Manx, would be a nice change.

  • 51 Rotonda heights // Feb 4, 2016 at 12:57 PM


    I was misinformed carr is in fact a sprightly 71
    William Graham Carr (born 25 October 1944

  • 52 sloveniangeordie // Feb 4, 2016 at 1:01 PM

    I always say that NUFC should invest in coaching staff more than in players. I never rated Steve McClaren. I think he is not quality for NUFC. Simply as that. We should get rid of him and bring someone young, ambitious and attacking style coach. This Wolly with the brolly guy has no idea what he is doing. I wonder how long will we stil looking this shit-style football. I wonder how much money will we spend for our loving club before something will change.

    After last night performance i lost every single bit of optimism. I believe we will go down, no chance in hell we’ll survive this situation.

  • 53 GeordieinOhio // Feb 4, 2016 at 1:01 PM

    Just watched the SM post match interview after last nights, well whatever ya wanna call it …one thing that keeps getting under my skin is the constant comment of “we need the fans to get behind us!” (or words to that effect) does he not hear or see the travelling supporters? does he not see the 50 odd thousand supporters at St James’s.

  • 54 Roger // Feb 4, 2016 at 1:02 PM

    Mr McLaren is the untertaker of Newcastle United.
    Kick him out at once.
    The game last night was so terrible, every Kreisliga
    Team in Germany play better.
    When we lost against West Brom on Saturday we
    can be shure that we Play in the Championship next
    Greetings from an angry german fan and member.

  • 55 SuperShearer // Feb 4, 2016 at 1:03 PM

    I’m sure it’s been mentioned on here before but in case it hasn’t…. McC has now managed the same amount of games for us as Joke Kinnear…. guess who has the worst record? *smacks head against brick wall*

  • 56 peterk3 // Feb 4, 2016 at 1:03 PM

    We’ve got a squad of very good players but our coach is bereft of ideas. He has no idea how to set a team up and organize players. He constantly plays them out of position and is just second rate. A decent manager/coach would have these bunch of players challenging for Europe not battling against relegation.
    When he took over he brought in Ian Cathro, supposedly a wonder coach, one of the best in Europe. What contribution has he had? We have no chance of getting Mourinho, but could get Rogers or Moyes. At least the know how to organize teams and play to their strengths.
    Yes Ashley appointed McLaren but he has spent big on decent players. The blame for our plight lays squarely at Mclarens door.
    Get rid NOW while we still have an outside chance of staying up.

  • 57 Toon-Prodigy // Feb 4, 2016 at 1:06 PM

    Jesp, Springy

    Cheers, is that what it is.. I was hoping he would start or atleast get 20 mins last night. Mitrovic needs to pull his socks up, that sitter he missed last night was very poor.

  • 58 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Feb 4, 2016 at 1:10 PM

    TP…I think it’s premature to start Doumbia for the time being. Personally I think there are other ways to set up your team to score goals than to rely on a lone ranger in Mitro…or Perez (which was a huge blunder by McC yesterday)

  • 59 belgrade fan // Feb 4, 2016 at 1:10 PM

    toon prodigy

    As I said in summer, and will repeat, now you all can see why we don’t rate Mitro even here in SErbia. We cant depend on him because he just doesn’t have that quality.

  • 60 belgrade fan // Feb 4, 2016 at 1:11 PM

    And you can be sure he will keep missing. He has no quality and now he lost confidence

  • 61 posada // Feb 4, 2016 at 1:12 PM

    Everyone take one on Saturday.
    If it’s another no show from the men playing for SM then give them the WH treatment.
    Shame him into leaving.
    Enough is enough.
    How long do we let them shame our great club.

  • 62 SPRINGY // Feb 4, 2016 at 1:16 PM

    geordiein ohio
    maccas interview really annoy me… he either shifts the focus from a poor performance to wanting a reaction and putting it on the fans to do more…or lies thru his toothy grin and says we played well…when everyone can see we didnt….either he’s lying or he’s delusional with some of his comments…i’ve stopped watching his post match interviews…although he is not to blame for all that is wrong at the club,i never believed he was the right man for the job….but the same can be said for moyes and rogers.

  • 63 bettyswallocks // Feb 4, 2016 at 1:17 PM

    It is evident to me that McC is a manager /coach that has a footballing philosophy that he believes once instilled will provide results. He is not a troubleshooter type of manager that sets up each game differently depending on the opposition.

    This type of coaching requires the players to buy into his methodology and time is required for it to all gel into a consistent way of playing. Obviously integrating new players into this system needs time as well.

    In his defence he tried to pack the midfield last night to try and keep Everton at bay, maybe with a plan to bring Mitro on second half and have a go at them.
    To sack him now and bring in the likes of Rogers as is being suggested would make no sense as he is from the same mould as McC although more modern and would need time to instill his ideas.

    That leaves us with either trying to find a troubleshooter to keep us up, the two obvious ones being at Scum and West Brom so not likely to move now or to retain faith that Steve can get it together in time to keep us up.
    Things will have to be re assessed in the summer by Ashley and decisions made about who stays right across the board, but to harp on about what Ashley should have done previously doesn’t help right now.

    He could sack Mc Claren now of course but that’s a risk as to who he replaces him with. He won’t sack Charnley and Carr at the moment and even if he did how will that help the team stay up? And he’s not likely to sack himself anytime soon.

  • 64 lochinvar // Feb 4, 2016 at 1:24 PM

    The longer term consequence of derisory performances, shockingly bad results and mis management at every level of the club is damaging beyond belief.

    French players are going home faster than they arrive now and we will certainly not attract the calibre of players needed to restore the club to its high profile status that we had with Sir Bobby.

    The likes of Deli Ali ( who are English based with ambition ) will not want to see their careers stall and go down the pan with us into the Championship.

    Ashley doesn’t need to do “crisis management ” as that is short term – this has been ” moral decline” over many years.

    Am I p!ssed off – yes, spectactularly so and I am at the older age, modest behaviour spectrum of the fan base.

    How do revolutions start ?
    Like this .
    I hope so.

  • 65 toontaff2 // Feb 4, 2016 at 1:25 PM

    Reading this blog makes my Bi-Polar seem normal!
    Nothing has changed – yet. We were away to Everton and lost. It’s not unusual!
    WBA, Swansea, Norwich, Bournemouth, Villa , mackems, Palace – all still to play and if we lose many of these games we will go and deserve to go down.

  • 66 GeordieinOhio // Feb 4, 2016 at 1:25 PM


    Totally agree, Its the first one I have ever actually watched< I just wanted to see his excuse this time, He said "judge me after 10 games" well its wayyyyyyy past that now and nothing has changed.

  • 67 Carl819 // Feb 4, 2016 at 1:25 PM

    After the hate and moronic abuse that Alan Pardew who would want the job, results have proven what a good job he was doing. Tens of millions spent and we are a much worse team than the one he managed to keep comfortably in the league, despite his hands being constantly tied. I hope the Pardew out brigade are happy, are you the same lot that sagged Steve Harper off when he took a job with the DMBs ? He was faithful beyond all reason to Newcastle when he could have been 1st choice in probably 80 othe league clubs and was discarded in the end, a man of decency. We are getting what we deserve.

  • 68 lochinvar // Feb 4, 2016 at 1:28 PM

    Just get Mourinho in till the end of the season – he’s available and has an affection or at least an affiliation with the club, through SBR.

    That also takes the pressure of Man Utd having to make the decision they will ultimately make mid season – – they can wait until end of the season and then Van Gall will be on his way.

    Vive La Revolution !

  • 69 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 4, 2016 at 1:30 PM

    Just offer Jose a decent wage and a massive bonus of he keeps us up

  • 70 lesh // Feb 4, 2016 at 1:32 PM

    Would it be safe to assume that Charnley’s got a replacement lined up to take over asap?

    He can’t say this has come as a surprise as the writing’s been on the wall since August.

    Ashley must step in to try and redeem the situation.

  • 71 mad-serb // Feb 4, 2016 at 1:32 PM

    So enough moaning for one day the bigger question know is fistly who are we playing on Saturday and secondly how do we rectify the problems we had against Everton and actually further back?

    The Wyscout avg position report showed out the major problem we had in the match. We have no width and are one dimentional in our atticking play with most of our play coming through the right side.

    What everton did was placed 3 to 4 players to close down siisoko and janmaat and allowed them no space.

    Gini and Townsend drifted to the middle however Perez not being able to hold up the ball took both players out of the game.

    Our midfield need to spread out, and keep the width otherwise is that simple to defend again. And with our whole midfield and attack basicly crowding towards the middle and right side there was no space for gini to pick up the ball and no space for shelvey to pass the ball. We trying to pass the ball in such a conggested right sided setup, no wonder we could not put 3 passes together.

    If we do not keep the width we will on saturday have even less chance to create anything agaist a WBA team that will be set up to defend. Martinez showed how to play against us yesterday close us down a double mark our right side as there is not much on our left side going forward, which is why we brought Townsend in to keep the widt and not make us one dimensional in our play.

    He needs to fix this over the weekend and very quickly over the coming weeks or we in deep trouble. We need to make runs on both side in the field draw defenders away from each other to create the space Shelvey needs to play his forward passess and get gini on the ball.

    4 3 3 or some 4 4 2 variations is a must to give the width required.

    How do you guys see it and whos best suited to play a formation like that given that we probably wont have a defence to probably put out.

  • 72 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Feb 4, 2016 at 1:33 PM

    Betty Boop…it might have to be reassessed before the summer…unless of course we want to be a Championship club!

    But to be honest I don’t see McM going anywhere either unless Ashley’s hands are forced! I don’t think they know what to do and by design they’ll just make the same mistake over and over again.

  • 73 Jail for Ashley // Feb 4, 2016 at 1:33 PM

    Yes we were away to Everton where we normally get beat, was that any type of reason just to decide we probably won’t win so why bother?

  • 74 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Feb 4, 2016 at 1:34 PM

    lesh…I am pretty sure Charnley would be surprised even if McM walked!

  • 75 Lindisfarne // Feb 4, 2016 at 1:34 PM

    How much the decision to keep Colloccini at the club and as Captain is debatable, but was surely his first mistake.

  • 76 spitfire_ // Feb 4, 2016 at 1:35 PM

    Mourinho never won a PL game at SJP. So no thanks.

  • 77 Tsunki // Feb 4, 2016 at 1:35 PM

    I read Magscar and Jesper’s responses with a smile smile at the naivety and short sightedness they reflected when considering the failings of the club. Ha ha, eh, Magscar? Ashley Out! Is of course not mine but Jails humorous expositions brought to life and more meaning by the odious track record Mike has established.

    There’s only so much the AA (Ashley Apologists) can blame on the employees before it has to be acknowledged that the Big Guy is in fact the Chief Problem. When the customers group and say they’ve had enough it can make a difference and that’s a FACT! 🙂 otherwise you wouldn’t see Mike take part in a video PR stunt to save his merchandising bacon, to stop us being toxic to Puma, Wonga (ha ha imagine!- toxic for Wonga!) and of course, Sports Direct. Of course fan protest is dismissed as ineffective by the AA, and of course the dire peril of being owner less frightens the little ones, should Ashley decide to abandon us.

    But hey, how on, blame the sock sorters, cone shifters and the mail room boy for the company problems, Mike’s only the owner after all not a Director, he has no say…. oh wait… who are the Directors responsible to again? Look up Company law Jesper, it may be different to Denmark.

  • 78 bettyswallocks // Feb 4, 2016 at 1:37 PM

    Jesper….. What would you do if you were in Ashley’s shoes, bearing in mind that if you sack McC you have to have someone lined up that will realistically put their reputation on the line by coming to a relegation threatened club.

  • 79 Thump // Feb 4, 2016 at 1:44 PM

    So Ed doesn’t like McClaren, but he liked Pardew. Interesting, he was singing from the rooftops when Schteve was brought in.

  • 80 Shoulders knees // Feb 4, 2016 at 1:51 PM

    Hi All, this is my first post I have followed the Toon since the 70’s although don’t get to many games, i do keep up to date with every game,
    What makes me laugh is that everyone goes on about having splashed out on £81 million in the last two windows we should be doing better but was not £24mill of that wasted on Cabella and Thauvin?

  • 81 bettyswallocks // Feb 4, 2016 at 1:55 PM

    In my opinion McC is a good technical coach but obviously not the best man to instill that winning mentality. When he was at Manure he worked with the players on the training ground and Fergie did the other stuff. That was a very successful period and he has to be given credit for that. He also did well at Twente and is held in high regard over there.
    Maybe he realises his inadequacies and prefers the technical coaching role so decided to bring Steve Black in to do the motivational bit.
    If there is a lack of fight and endeavour in the team then it might be Black who’s not doing his job.

  • 82 Williamson is Bramble in disguise // Feb 4, 2016 at 1:58 PM

    Madserb a 433 with tiote and saivet/colback and sissoko’s just in front so we’ve at least got a solid midfield covering the back four… Then alternate Perez and wiji either side of cisse/doumbia up top, maybe drop wiji back to the advanced midfield position to put Aaron’s in the wf role… Or dare I say try mitro in a wide forward role to provide an outlet much like ba did? The lad can’t hit a barn door so can’t be much worse than playing him central!

  • 83 Williamson is Bramble in disguise // Feb 4, 2016 at 2:02 PM

    Bettyswallocks there’s a lack of bloody football in the team black can’t be responsible for that, as many have said macca might be a good coach but he’s a crap manager. Just think when we appointed him all the players that said what a good coach he was, then read between the lines abit! No one came out saying what a good manager he was… Bit like saying something without being horrible about it!

  • 84 ilovetoon8788 // Feb 4, 2016 at 2:04 PM

    Mclaren brought in a host of his backroom staff. I think all are crap including his assistant Paul. Ian cathro the wonder boy also looks hopeless. Steve black is a waste of money. We need to clear the entire backroom staff including mclaren. The staffs he brought in sucks.

  • 85 WWSBRD // Feb 4, 2016 at 2:04 PM

    Lots of ideas flying around on here today problem is Ashley won’t sack McClaren so where do we go with him? Looks like the championship if am honest but I will try to be slight more positive

    Colback needs to be back fit to partner Shelvey moving forward (Tiote up til then), Perez needs to sit on the bench, Mitrovic needs to play until Doumbia or Cisse get up to fitness, Townsend needs time rather than slating, Saylor needs to show his best coming up if Mbemba is fully crocked and Gino needs to be benched away from home or McClaren needs to set up the flaming team to get him in the game

    As for LB I honesty can’t think of what can be done at this point…Saviet? Aaron’s can’t do it, Dummett is awful, Mbabu and Haidara aren’t fit

    That’s my 2 cents worth but really I think we are going down regardless at this point

  • 86 TheBoss // Feb 4, 2016 at 2:05 PM

    Never been a one to urge NUFC to sack a manager, in this case I am. As someone pointed out earlier we have never been out of the drop zone area ALL season after our worst star ever.FACT. trouble is that start has snowballed now. Even with the new players brought in, Gino apart the rest have looked out of their depth & being honest.. GINO is turning out to be a home player only. If for no other reason MA needs to protect his investment by not leaving it until we are in a panic stations situation as he did in last 8 games by appointing Shearer.. DO IT NOW.. give a new man a chance & this time go for a TOP Manager who ALL the players will respect, someone who has personality , passion & tactical knowhow.or simply someone who would scare the Tom Tit out of them.. Nigel Peasron springs to mind there. But if the top guys turn it down..Go cap in hand and beg Chris Houghton to come back… Before its too late..

  • 87 Jib // Feb 4, 2016 at 2:06 PM

    Thump @79

    That is actually factually incorrect.

    Ed has always had doubts about McClaren and expressed them quite forcefully from day 1 of his appointment.

    On another point Eddie Jones has picked some team for England’s Calcutta cup game –
    Scotland be afraid , be very afraid 😎

  • 88 shaun83 // Feb 4, 2016 at 2:08 PM

    Sack Him and bring in who…? I’d also say that although we have spent a lot of money every single signing has a question mark over them for one reason or another, some bigger than others. The money we have spent is nowhere near been wise enough to guarantee survival. That’s not to say I think McClaren has done a great job, far from it.

  • 89 lukes26 // Feb 4, 2016 at 2:08 PM


    I think its a positive thing when people are able to change their mind about something.

    There’s this guy on this blog, toonbrother, who isnt mature enough to be able to do this

  • 90 bettyswallocks // Feb 4, 2016 at 2:13 PM

    Tsunki……. Blaming Ashley for our predicament is totally justified and it’s been established for a long time. If his subordinates are accountable to him then he is only accountable to himself and his clients , us as fans. However there is nothing he can do in the present here and now that will help us stay up other than sack McC. He can’t authorise any more spending until the summer , so unless we organise another Ashley out campaign in the middle of a relegation battle , which seems a poor idea, then I think we should focus the apportioning of blame elsewhere , where we might find a solution to the predicament.

  • 91 magscar // Feb 4, 2016 at 2:14 PM


    No naivety here I think the Ashley out comedy shouts on most threads have that sewn up. More worrying is the apparent glee some folk have at the situation we are in especially if they aren’t mackems. Go figure?

    My post on earlier thread put my stance forward – have a look if you can be bothered.

    What I like to do is engage in is the art of the possible without playing to the gallery. Not as popular perhaps but each to their own.

  • 92 Mag52 // Feb 4, 2016 at 2:15 PM


    If ever a post hit the nail full square on the head it was yours re Pardew. Well said mate.
    If the Sack Pardew mob had had their way, we’d already have been playing in the Championship.

  • 93 magscar // Feb 4, 2016 at 2:17 PM

    Betty @90

    Oh another one on the naivety step – i’ll hunch up a bit then 😉

  • 94 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 4, 2016 at 2:17 PM

    Most fans on here were postive about Makro’s appointment. More were very pleased with the transfer budget and how Carr had spent it; less than 10% of us said it was a poor window. Such was the buoyant optimism, 34% were even predicting a win at Everton. Now it’s all Ashley’s fault. He couldn’t see it coming but the fans on here could.

  • 95 bettyswallocks // Feb 4, 2016 at 2:20 PM

    Williamson…… That’s more or less what I was trying to say. Since he came to us Mc has been adamant that the performances and playing style were more important than the results and that results would follow the good performances. We have seen the odd glimmer of a good team performance but it is all backfiring on him now as we don’t have enough time to experiment in order to get the points we need.

  • 96 acuna // Feb 4, 2016 at 2:23 PM

    I NEVER comment on this as I never feel the need. But I would like to say the following:

    I have never nor will ever rate Shelvey and did not want him near this team.
    Newcastle are one of the worst away side in the league, but that has always been the case. We are so tactically rigid it is sickening!
    Berahino is three times the player Perez is and 25m was not a ridiculous fee.
    Colocinni gets unfair criticism and at 34 is still one of our best players (let that sink in).
    Dummet is championship at best, in the mould of Ramage and Huntington, yet still better than Haidara.
    Armstrong is not the answer and will never make it in the Premier League.
    I HATE 4-2-3-1….when will be just revert to 4-4-2 as per Bobby Robson era and the successful season under Pardew.
    I can see us picking up 10 more points this season and I am not a pessimistic fan.

    Best of luck to them but this team is going down! I had already concluded that after the Watford game.

  • 97 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Feb 4, 2016 at 2:23 PM

    nTsunki…I am glad you are all smiles!

    And good for you the “Ashley out” phrase is just on loan…you wear it well though.

    I thought the sincere questions I posted to you in an attempt to have an open dialogue was very forthcoming. Boy was I wrong!

  • 98 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 4, 2016 at 2:24 PM

    I don’t see any glee from anyone. If there’s any glee, I’ve missed it. There’s plenty of people fluttering about in the wind like butterflies. One minute delighted with the transfer budget and the signings, the next minute ready to sack the manager after one game, and before he’s got his new striker on the field.

  • 99 lesh // Feb 4, 2016 at 2:25 PM


    Forget Mourinho. He wouldn’t come as he’s waiting for Van Gaal to resign and there’s the small matter of his reputation being damaged should we go down.

    If Pardew’s a marker, Charnley won’t have a replacement lined up as any good MD would, despite the fact that the writing’s been on the wall since the start of the season.

    Ashley needs to step in quickly to appoint a quick fixer to save the Club’s Prem status and being the process to recruit a proven manager – forget the HC arrangement- and disband the so called football board, replacing Charnley and Carr.

    Oh for an MD like Daniel Levy. C’mon Ashley, do what needs to be done, sooner rather than later.

  • 100 Williamson is Bramble in disguise // Feb 4, 2016 at 2:27 PM

    People say who are we going to bring in if we sack Mac, but we’ll have a much better chance of getting a good coach in now than we will next year in the championship if we leave things how they are…

  • 101 JAMSHA // Feb 4, 2016 at 2:28 PM

    Dont Know Why Ppl Blame Mc, ASHley Should Be Kickd Out Only If Managed To Bring In A Proper Manager Like Klopp, Jose, Pep Etc,

  • 102 Jail for Ashley // Feb 4, 2016 at 2:29 PM

    When did being factually correct ever stop you from posting your…. jibberish!

  • 103 magscar // Feb 4, 2016 at 2:29 PM


    Reasonable shout but if Colback is fit he seems only viable alternative to Dummett which means Anita or Tiote to challenge Saivet ( who I thought was OK last night but maybe doesn’t have 90 mins in him yet).

    Still feel that the midfield shambles last night was occasioned by McClaren’s packing of it and with Perez left stranded up top or joining the crowd. Totally disjointed and not simply because the players are useless or don’t care.

    Despite the overcrowding Barkley managed to find space and time throughout game.

  • 104 Tsunki // Feb 4, 2016 at 2:29 PM

    Magscar I did read it. I don’t know about playing to the gallery but hey ho. I replied to your “ha ha” so I don’t understand why I wouldn’t come back at you directly. I didn’t say let’s start an Ashley Out! Campaign now but I think that if this is going to continue as the last 8 years have it should be contemplated at some time, why not? If the major shareholder is going to dictate the actions of the Directors in this disastrous way, why not urge him to sell up? It would have to be under duress of course because this club is valuable to him. Duress in the form of supporters discontent, adverse publicity, and lack of sales for SD merchandising especially through the club. Brand toxicity is a major player in forcing business direction and so it should be! It didn’t take much to rattle Gerald Ratner, media enthusiastically highlighting his jokey comments at an AGM and blowing out of proportion an idea everyone already knew about anyway. We are the customers and we are being ripped off, by order of the head of the snake.

    We could of course continue to acknowledge him of the saviour of the club from oblivion (allegedly) and listen to the perennial killer of determined enterprise, that disdainful voice from behind that says ” naawww…that won’t work”.

  • 105 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Feb 4, 2016 at 2:29 PM

    Sack McLaren
    Won’t get us anywhere because the powers that be take a age to make a decision – and all the names put forward Carr would not entertain.
    I’m for sticking with McLaren but what I don’t get is we play decent football one/two games then are absolute shite.

    Anyway betting odds for relegation
    Villa 1/50
    Mackems 1/5
    Toon 11/10
    Norwich 11/10
    Swansea 9/2
    West Brom 7/1
    Bournemouth 16/1

    looks like the bookies are giving us a fighting chance of avoiding the drop
    but not if we play anything like last nights mess

  • 106 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Feb 4, 2016 at 2:31 PM

    betty…first and foremost if I was Ashley I would have everything differently. So I am not going to try and be him.

    He had the option to have sacked McM before January, which he probably should have done. Now he’s back him so I will assume he will stick with him. Probably the wisest anyway…BUT if things doesn’t start to pick up can he really afford not to act?

    As for Charnley. He has screwed up two very important windows now, where money was made available to spend. In my book Charnley should be out the door tomorrow.

    He job is over anyway. It would be an opportunity for Ashley for make another wrong right. He’s spending money now and he should be able to see he’s not getting his money’s worth.

  • 107 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 4, 2016 at 2:33 PM

    The trouble with this club is poor recruitment of managers and players. That includes Pardew. Pardew wasn’t good enough. His players weren’t good enough. Perhaps manager and players were good enough to win the Trap Door Cup but certainly not good enough to win anything else. That’s why Pardew had to go. Makro needs to go. Carr needs to go. But first Charnley needs to go.

  • 108 Rotonda heights // Feb 4, 2016 at 2:33 PM

    Carl and Mag 52

    Hilarious you calling people morons.

    Season before last we came 16th, if that’s not flirting with relegation I’m not quite sure what is. Even last season when AP left of his own choice we were in the middle of another awful run, everton game apart.

    AP was removed from WHU before he took them down with mssrs Tevez and mascherano etc. Charlton fans weren’t so lucky.

    Extraordinary even now when Pardew has gone on yet another cracking record losing run and proved that he always starts well but inevitably gets found out you won’t have it.

  • 109 Tsunki // Feb 4, 2016 at 2:33 PM

    Blackley @94, I know. I wasn’t one of them. I mildly tempered my pessimism because I was tired of answering comments about being a moaner. I greeted SM’s appointment with resignation and lukewarm hope. I’m not surprised we are still here, post Pardew. The same problem is firmly in situ.

  • 110 mattyNUFC // Feb 4, 2016 at 2:34 PM

    i really dont understand this blame-game on gini in away matches. is it his fault that EVERY away match the team is set up in some asinine formation?

    im not his biggest fan but i say enough is enough. pull out the stops to get mourinho in asap until the end of the season

    maccas comments last night were despicable….its not what we fans have come to expect? are you fcuking kidding me?? west ham was the only good match we’ve played all year. even the norwich match looked liked we were going to be trounced for the first 60 minutes

  • 111 WWSBRD // Feb 4, 2016 at 2:34 PM

    True on Colback but for me I think we need him in CM with Shelvey. I think their play compliments each other and they can form a partnership faster than Shelvey and Saviet can which is important because we have no time right now

    LB I just pray Haidara or Mbabu come back asap

  • 112 bettyswallocks // Feb 4, 2016 at 2:35 PM

    Jesper…… I agree with most of that , but we must remember that we can’t change the past only avoid making similar mistakes in the future.

  • 113 mad-serb // Feb 4, 2016 at 2:40 PM

    Williamson is Bramble in disguise….

    so we basicly agreeing on something like this.


    ___________ Tiote/saviet______________




    I would actually like Collo in the DM position. he does not have the pace to be a CB anymore but he definatly is decent on the ball. better passing range than Tiote and Saviet. think he could do a job for us there. and play Drummet along side Mbemba when all are availible.

    Sissoko actually look decent in the middle for about 10 minute towards the end. Other options how about playing sissiko as CF in that formation. he can hold a ball up better than perez and play him down the right wing. Doumbia off the bench till his match fit.

  • 114 Williamson is Bramble in disguise // Feb 4, 2016 at 2:42 PM

    Acuna agree with your point about shelvey, and I feel the same about townsend if I’m honest, we should be competing with these clubs not taking they’re crap off then for big fees…

    But that’s about it I’m afraid, Colo is one of the worst first choice cb’s I’ve seen at the club, its like watching a curly haired bramble run around, and the worst captain I’ve seen at the club period.

    And as for the formation our 5th season we played 4-3-3, the only time we’ve finished above tenth in ten years. It was changing this to 4-4-2/4-5-1 trying to accomodate ba that nearly had us relegated… 4-4-2 is outdated and easy to exploit if you can predict it, and for some reason we just don’t seen to suit a 4-5-1, or don’t have the manager to execute it, just end up with the forward looking lost and no service into the box…

  • 115 magscar // Feb 4, 2016 at 2:48 PM


    read Tsunki’s posts with the repetitive ha ha’s after each point – if he didn’t post regular I would have thought it was a mackem!

    For my part the defeat was to be expected but to repeat my earlier comments NOT the manner of it and McClaren’s setting up and subs. I see this as not just a defeat but part of a pattern that I ( and no doubt others) have been seeing for a while which I had hoped Jan might have helped turn round.

    Yes only 1 game but more of the same on the pitch and in the press box and absolutely no sign that McClaren knows how to arrest the position we are in. OK may not be his fault overall but arguably he has been given a better set of players then any manager in Ashley’s reign and can’t fashion them into a consistent side.

    If the task really is too big for him then we are risking there being 3 worst sides than us to stay up.Of course the problem as ever is if he goes who comes in? There is always Shearer 🙂

    A ray of sunshine is that on my way home listing to Talk ( Crap) Sport the boffins with their algorithms have pronounced the 3 down are Villa Mackems and Bournemouth. Was my feeling ( with Norwich in mix) a little while ago but my confidence is draining fast after Watford and Everton showing no progress on the away front to give any comfort.

    I would prefer to stick with a manager at this stage but I really fear that it is now more than a tweak required and it is beyond McClaren’s average ability. Are the players understanding the shape and tactics or simply not listening to him?

  • 116 magscar // Feb 4, 2016 at 2:51 PM


    Don’t disagree with your point but depends which is the position more in need of buttressing LB or CM – could depend on the game? although I do prefer continuity as far as possible

  • 117 Williamson is Bramble in disguise // Feb 4, 2016 at 2:54 PM

    Mad Serb yeah similar be worth a try, probably go with yours for home games, prefer 2 DMS away or against top teams though just cause our defence is frail, also agree with Colo in dm… Would try something like..


    Gives options to rotate in midfield if anyone’s not performing maybe move sissoko’s back and put shelvey/colback in… Just think our midfield needs beefing up sit tight at the back and hit teams fast, the problem is not having anyone with that killer pass, maybe try Anita in a more advanced role? and like I said maybe even try mitrovik as a wide forward to provide an outlet for the defence, bring the ball down and release it on the break just like ba did when we finished 5th… No point playing the lad cf if he keeps missing sitters!

  • 118 Williamson is Bramble in disguise // Feb 4, 2016 at 2:58 PM

    Maybe like a…

  • 119 U.S Magpie // Feb 4, 2016 at 3:08 PM

    Ok, enough is enough. We have a good squad of players, yes we could he not have left it to late to get in a defender in the window and another striker. But we have what we have so manage the players, why the hell does he play players in the totally wrong positions is really getting me pissed off. Why also does he think that it’s a good idea to play with one forward and put out a defensive set up that has not worked for us for the last three years. Watford and Leicester on paper and no offense to them don’t have the players we do but are winning games, the one main thing they do is play there players in the right position and also have two strikers that have learned to play together and score goals. This defensive bunching up the midfield thought of play is killing us and yet we all know this Steve McClamity still thinks this is how we should play. Sorry Steve you have not learned anything and hopefully the reason we didn’t purchase another player this year, big Mike was thinking to pay you off and get you the phuck out of our club. Five steps back is because of your tactical decisions, for the love of all things black and white fire this useless idiot and his useless assistant.

  • 120 widowmagandapoke // Feb 4, 2016 at 5:04 PM

    Either macca falls on his sword or Ashley eats humble pie and appoints Kevin Keenan as managing director with instructions to recruit a proper manager. In the meantime kk should do the job. I have given macca a bit of time to settle but after last night he is a joke. Akin to Kinnear!

  • 121 Laurent Robert The Legend // Feb 4, 2016 at 5:21 PM

    What have we learnt this season?
    Demba ba > Mitrovic
    Cabaye > Gini > Shevelvey
    Ben Arfa > Sissoko
    Thauvin > Townsend
    Ball Boy > Coloccini
    Pardew > Mclren

    Guess who we should blame?

  • 122 Carl819 // Feb 5, 2016 at 1:37 PM

    Rotunda heights,
    I didn’t call people morons, the phrase used was moronic abuse. When we finished 16th was that the season that Cabaye was sold from under Pardew’s feet with no replacement ? Recent Palace history has shown that Pardew didn’t want to lose him. The idea that he should have stood up to the owner via the press is absurd, who stands up to the owner of the firm that they work for ? certainly nobody that wishes for continual employment. I would gladly take a 16th position finish this season, maybe you are hoping for a top eight finish. The people who slagged Steve Harper (the same Steve Harper that donated his testimonial fund to charity if I remember correctly) are not morons, they are idiots (a lower I.Q. than a moron).

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