Newcastle Manager Should Be Fired Before It’s Too Late


The goals for this season following the complete and utter nightmare of last season were to get in the top eight in the Premier League and to win a cup.

That followed last season and a certain John Carver who lost eight Premier League games in a row for the first time ever and he almost had us relegated.

There is no chance of winning a cup since we went out at the second hurdle of the League Cup and at the first hurdle of the FA Cup.

So we are nowhere near our targets for this season following the disasters of last season.

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Steve McClaren – a familiar pose at Newcastle

It was also our worst-ever start in out history after 8 games when we collected only 3 points – three draws – and for the first time in our Premier League history we have been in the basement of the league all season fighting relegation.

That has never happened before.

We are currently third bottom and have just spent close to £29M on new players last month and in total our £81M investment over the last two transfer windows in new players is the most of any Premier League club.

So if we have spent so much money on some good players – expensive players at the very least  – what does that tell you?

It says that that head coach Steve McClaren isn’t up to the job, because he simply is not getting the best out of his players.

Don’t believe coaches like Steve Stone who say the Newcastle players are not good enough – he has an invested interest in saying that because he was the assistant to John Carver in last season’s disaster.

And after McClaren was ignominiously fired from Derby County last May you will have to ask Lee Charnley why on earth he thought he was the right choice for Newcastle, when other better coaches were available.

He wasn’t good enough for Derby County but he was good enough for Newcastle United?

We were hoping and praying things would pick up this season and we have tried to be patient.

But now things are getting really serious and we have taken only 4 points out of the last 28 points played for – and last night the way the team played and even lost their discipline at the end of a 3-0 rout at Goodison Park was nothing less than a complete disgrace to the club.

What more does Steve McClaren have to do to be fired by Newcastle?

But don’t expect Lee Charnley to do the firing, because he appointed Steve in the first place and to fire him would validate it was the second calamitous appointment Lee has made for head coach at Newcastle in the last year.

You could point to those two appointments of John Carver and Steve McClaren as the one big reason we have been so pathetic over this last year.

It’s simple – if Steve stays in the job it is a cast iron certainty we will be relegated in May – and don’t expect Steve to bring us up from the Championship at the first attempt.

It will not happen.

So while there’s still time and good managers are available and may still want to come in and try to save Newcastle – we have some good players in the squad after all and a newly ambitious owner – now’s the time for Mike Ashley to take action.

If he leaves it too long nobody will want to touch Newcastle, because we will be almost certainly be relegated and become a Championship club again.

Here’s Steve’s woeful record at Newcastle that would have seen him fired at any other Premier League club.

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But what other Premier League club would have hired him last May in the first place after he was fired by Derby County?



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122 comments so far

  • Wayayman

    Feb 4, 2016 at 11:57 AM

    Comment #1

    Repost:

    Posada I totally agree on the fullback comment. How infuriating that McClaren played a young inexperienced left sided attacker just back from a long term injury in LB for the 2nd half and had another left sided attacker switch to the right and the right footed midfielder go to the left when Mitro came on!?!
    Talks about playing to peoples strengths, it makes me wonder how much Schteve really trusts his players.

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  • smoke beer, drink tabs

    Feb 4, 2016 at 12:00 PM

    Comment #2

    Sick of hearing that the club now have ambition. If they had spent money over the last few seasons we wouldn’t be in this mess and we wouldn’t have had to buy splash 80m in 6 months. They are just spending now what the should have done years ago

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Feb 4, 2016 at 12:05 PM

    Comment #3

    Wayayman
    “Blackley @96 if you seriously think our midfield last night wasnt the problem then you to watch the game again.”

    I’ve said attack and defence are the priority areas. We’ve got no one to score goals and our defence is shit. I was underwhelmed by the signings of Shelvey, Saivet and Townsend when most others were saying it’s a good window. These boys ate the solution. Our defence and attack will now perform.

    Of course if you’ve got an improved midfield it will help your defence and attack. But our defrnce and attack are so inadequate, they needed to be improved directly not indirectly.

    It all hangs on Doumbia now.

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  • clinath@ed

    Feb 4, 2016 at 12:06 PM

    Comment #4

    To me, it is becoming more and more apparent that SM is unable to motivate these players. Before anyone says they shouldn’t need motivating, we are talking about young men in their mid 20s, most of whom are millionaires and could stop playing now and still be well off for the rest of their lives. Of course they need motivating.

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  • Goldmbemba

    Feb 4, 2016 at 12:07 PM

    Comment #5

    I think what some people are forgetting is that the team has had a big shake up over the last 2 windows, and yes like it or not it takes time for them to gel.

    Im not surprised at the everton result (although it sounds like the performance was terrible) because Everton for all their inconsistency are a better team with better players than us. Plus they were playing at home.

    Im prepared to see how we do at home against west brom before joining the steve out campaign. Not because hes a good manager but because if we dont win that, we really are going down.

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  • leedavid2015

    Feb 4, 2016 at 12:08 PM

    Comment #6

    Aarons is not a left back and Perez not a lone striker! The players had no faith in the set from the start which is why they just defended and gave up possession, no point in going forward with that line up. A new manager now could give the players a lift and i think wehave some very good players, they are just not playing for McC, McClueless has to go.

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  • terencelim

    Feb 4, 2016 at 12:08 PM

    Comment #7

    And Mike Ashley will hire another puppet. Fact.

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  • ilovetoon8788

    Feb 4, 2016 at 12:10 PM

    Comment #8

    draw or loss at West Brom and we should preparing for Championship.

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  • BarcelonaMag

    Feb 4, 2016 at 12:11 PM

    Comment #9

    It’s all a question of the club’s ethos. The lack of ambition from the top just percolates downwards. If we tried to finish in the top half of the table we’d probably finish in the middle. If we “aim” to finish mid-table we end up where we are: at the bottom.

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  • Wandering Geordie

    Feb 4, 2016 at 12:12 PM

    Comment #10

    He buys a winger and striker.Drops our target man and has our new striker on bench,for the winger to supply crosses to Perez.When I saw the two strikers on bench,I immediately knew we were in for a bad night.Schteve has to go now.Bring in Mourinho at all costs

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  • Wayayman

    Feb 4, 2016 at 12:14 PM

    Comment #11

    I’d be up for sacking McClaren if it wasn’t for the fact that we’d just get another dinosaur, middle of the road British manager who can’t even spell progresive. I mean progrressive. Proggreseive? Oh fck it… 😉

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  • reilly

    Feb 4, 2016 at 12:19 PM

    Comment #12

    look at watford and leicester,there squads arnt better than ours there just better organised.
    mcclaren has to go before its to late.

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Feb 4, 2016 at 12:19 PM

    Comment #13

    Haha Ed…very true 😉

    So have Charnley…twice actually!

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  • Rotonda heights

    Feb 4, 2016 at 12:19 PM

    Comment #14

    wayaman

    progressive, but know what you mean, you’re spot on.

    Benitez
    sampauli,
    Nuno

    plenty of others but these clowns will ironically ” play safe” with as you say another failed, mediocre, middle of the road Brit manager.

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Feb 4, 2016 at 12:20 PM

    Comment #15

    Ed, you repeatedly make the point that we need a striker. Someone to score goals. We haven’t got one. If you can’t score goals what’s your game plan? You were one of those who have been pleased with all the money spent. Yet, before Doumbia has played, you’re calling for Makro to be sacked. The ink is still wet on the cheques and you’re reacting after a defeat.

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  • Take A Chancel On Me

    Feb 4, 2016 at 12:21 PM

    Comment #16

    Time to go Macca

    https://twitter.com/SackSMcClaren/status/695215228292894721

    Replace with any of:
    Jose Mourinho
    David Moyes
    Rafa Benitez
    Brendan Rodgers
    Gary monk

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  • Goldmbemba

    Feb 4, 2016 at 12:22 PM

    Comment #17

    The managerial problem for me is who would realistically come in to manage us?

    Rodgers? he thinks we’re below him
    Moyes, could do better than us i think
    Mourinho??! lol
    Laudrup – isnt he somewhere else now?

    I just think we are such an unsteady ship right now that a lot of managers wont touch us.
    I will say one thing though, im glad we didnt get Garde. He just seems the wrong person for a dogfight, what on earth was his motivation for going to villa.

    I think they’ll come straight back up though.

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Feb 4, 2016 at 12:22 PM

    Comment #18

    But after spending £80M it would very counter productive to have to fire McM…granted it could be our only option if things doesn’t change.

    I hope it does and I hope Charnley will be the one sacrificed this time.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Feb 4, 2016 at 12:23 PM

    Comment #19

    jesper,
    I see the topic of Ashley intervening has arisen again, are you going to explain in what way he intervened last season when things got nasty.

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Feb 4, 2016 at 12:24 PM

    Comment #20

    Unless Doumbia is the real deal, even Mourinho would fail. No goal scorers and a shit defence. Mourinho would take one look at Carr’s recruits and say “thanks, but no thanks”.

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Feb 4, 2016 at 12:24 PM

    Comment #21

    Rotonda…I think Sampaoli will be Chelsea’s new manager?

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  • JeanDavidGinola

    Feb 4, 2016 at 12:24 PM

    Comment #22

    I don’t think Schteve has a clue what he’s doing, he doesn’t seem to have any tactical nous, someone should have the guts to fire him or he should have the good grace to step aside now before things get worse

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Feb 4, 2016 at 12:25 PM

    Comment #23

    John Carver had the same problem.

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Feb 4, 2016 at 12:25 PM

    Comment #24

    There is no quick fix. It was never going to be an easy task to turn it around with such neglect of the first team squad over the last however many years. The new players havn’t been here 5 minutes give them time.

    It’s all too easy to point the fingers at managers, for me it’s a collective effort which starts from Ashley’s blueprint right down to the players who just havn’t been good enough on the pitch. Lack of leadership and experience because of the age gap and love of the French bargain on cheaper wages.

    Newcastle have made all their own problems and now it’s a slow and painful turn around. Managers have had an impossible task at this club over the last 8 years they are not the major problem.

    For me, we won’t go down. Im sure of it.

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  • Goldmbemba

    Feb 4, 2016 at 12:26 PM

    Comment #25

    Can anyone explain about the TV money from next season – is it going to be bigger from every season from now on, OR is next season going to bring more money than those afterwards?

    Yes we want to be in the prem next year, but if we could come straight back after relegation would it be so bad in the medium term financially? Parachute payments and all that to tick us over…

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Feb 4, 2016 at 12:26 PM

    Comment #26

    It is looking increasingly like a three horse race between us, the mackems and Norwich, the mackems have been in this position every year and are getting good at it, not sure about Norwich Are we just going to sit by sorting out deck chairs. From Mclarens own words ‘it’s like watching a car crash in slow motion, you know it’s going to happen but can’t do anything about it’ fcukin Churchillian that like!

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  • Wayayman

    Feb 4, 2016 at 12:27 PM

    Comment #27

    Rotunda @ 14, I was joking about the spelling…

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  • dalton7675

    Feb 4, 2016 at 12:28 PM

    Comment #28

    I reckon Rodgers would jump at the chance he’d be my first choice followed closely by moyes.
    Mclauren out he’s had half a season and has been woeful so far all I see on Facebook off other fans is with that squad we shouldn’t be where we are now and they are right he’s not getting the best out of the players and is playing out dated formations with old school tactics that sadly don’t cut it in the premier league. We need to act fast or wered going down

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  • Goldmbemba

    Feb 4, 2016 at 12:28 PM

    Comment #29

    @Toon-Prodigy

    What are your reasons for thinking we’ll survive?

    I hope you’re right but as the weeks go by im more doubtful. Im consoling myself by remembering leicseters great escape, and how 3/4 wins with some momentum would see us out of it.

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  • richyg01

    Feb 4, 2016 at 12:28 PM

    Comment #30

    IF he went:

    1. WHO would WANT to come here and manage?

    2. WHO out of the ones who actually wanted to come would you want to manage the team?

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  • Rotonda heights

    Feb 4, 2016 at 12:30 PM

    Comment #31

    wayayman I know..!!

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Feb 4, 2016 at 12:33 PM

    Comment #32

    Jail…I’ll bite this time, but there will be no follow to your 20 questions.

    When the season was at a close and relegation was in the hands of our last game (after criticism after moved beyond just Pardew) he came out and addressed the reporters and the fans.

    Now Jail before you bite, and we all know you will, I never said I believe one word coming from him. But he came out and took responsibility. In the aftermath of this the following has happened:

    1. Charnley has been instructed to find a new manager
    2. Completely new staff for the appointed manager
    3. Transfer founds have been allocated (regardless of how I see them used)
    4. The appointed manager got the players he wanted in January
    5. It seems he also intervene in the signing process of Townsend, but who knows what to believe.

    *Know this, I will not entertain the following of your ludicrous questions only designed to spin your BS 😉

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Feb 4, 2016 at 12:33 PM

    Comment #33

    *follow up

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Feb 4, 2016 at 12:33 PM

    Comment #34

    Jeezus TP,
    What is it with you and not being prepared to put any blame at all on the manager, he was a sacked Championship guy with worse form than JC who was more than willing to sign up to the clubs policies, he is every bit to blame as his boss and fellow board members, he is totally inadequate for the job, how many PL clubs sacked a manager while he was in charge of Forest and Derby, why was it none of them wanted a Dutch title winning Ex England manager, because he’s pap !

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  • spitfire_

    Feb 4, 2016 at 12:34 PM

    Comment #35

    He won’t be fired. Get real. He just was backed in the transfer window, which was closed just two days ago. If, and this s a big IF, he get the sack, this will be in the best case in the start of March a.k.a far too late.

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  • posada

    Feb 4, 2016 at 12:38 PM

    Comment #36

    Wayayman

    I think you have touched on it there. The players had no confidence in what they were being asked to do.
    Saivet. Some still saying he played ok. If you do not track runners you give the opposition what everyone wants on a football field. A free man with time and space.
    Colback and Shelvey played well for a half against West Ham. That is because they have both been coached to play CM since they were kids. They could play like that for me if I was the manager. It would take no explaining they would just get on with it. But as soon as we move away from that its a disaster.
    West Brom. If it is a no show we really should give Mc the white hankerchief treatment as the do in Spain.
    It would be deserved.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Feb 4, 2016 at 12:38 PM

    Comment #37

    jesper,
    I wasn’t trying to get you to bite, just answer a simple question was all, was that so hard.
    Ok,
    So now we know that that’s what you meant by Ashley intervening when things got nasty.
    He said go and get a manager, we haven’t got one and he gave his first interview in almost seven years. Bravo Mikey, bravo!

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  • Rotonda heights

    Feb 4, 2016 at 12:40 PM

    Comment #38

    SAMPAULI

    Would be awesome. Change the face of NUFC forever. sadly Charnley will never even have heard of him.

    We have an owner who knows nada about football. Also just don’t get that we get a Charnley who also knows zilch about football but other properly run clubs have proper footballing MDs / D.O.Fs etc with a footballing background / experience as well as business.

    Secondly an 80 year old scout who was an extremely poor and failed manager back in the day.

    Oh I’m going to stop, doing my head in it’s so depressing.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Feb 4, 2016 at 12:40 PM

    Comment #39

    spitfire,
    It just rest on the WBA game, if we don’t win that then they seriously need to sack him.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Feb 4, 2016 at 12:41 PM

    Comment #40

    jesper,
    1,2,3,4, and 5 were this season as well, not last season like you said!

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