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Why Tomorrow´s Game Is So Crucial For Steve McClaren

9:12 am, Friday, February 5th, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 161 Comments

It will be very interesting to hear what Steve McClaren has to say in his press conference today after one of our most disappointing performances of the season at Goodison Park on Wednesday and that came as the first game after the January window after we brought in four new players for £29M.

Not a good start to the remaining games of the season – to be sure.

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Steve McClaren – pondering the six goals conceded in 20 minutes

But in an interview in the Chronicle today what he says supports the notion he still thinks the relegation battle will go down to the very last game of the season.

“In three or four weeks time we must be fit and healthy and have a good attitude and energy.”

“We need everybody in that treatment room off the beds and training again.”

“They need to help us do what we want, which is climb up the league.” “It is a mini-season. It was 15 (well we lost the 15th last game on Wednesday) then you knock it down to 10.”

“Then it’s about the last five. We have to start getting results.”

With the continuing poor results this season we´ve heard it all before from Steve McClaren – give me ten games  before you judge – then give me until Christmas – and now it seems it´s give me to the last game of the season.

Who would have thought after we spent £52M last summer on new players – after the fans were generally delighted that Ashley had at last opened the wallet – that we would be struggling with relegation throughout this season?

We thought the turnaround would have come long before now and it has to come soon, with four new players added to the squad for £29M last month.

But it hasn´t come yet and it´s simply not good enough – not good enough by a long way.

We have to hope we can get some wins together and get out of trouble soon and Newcastle have to win the game tomorrow against West Brom – it really is a must win game for us and for Steve McClaren.

If we don´t win tomorrow Mike Ashley may not give Steve McClaren any more games to turn it around – and the owner  found out seven years ago that leaving it to 8 games to go before bringing in a new manager (Alan Shearer) was too late.

That´s how important tomorrow´s home game is for Newcastle and for Steve McClaren.

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  • 1 G // Feb 5, 2016 at 9:14 AM

    I think we will lose, but hope Im wrong. SacMac

  • 2 Rotonda heights // Feb 5, 2016 at 9:16 AM

    Desperately sad that people say moyes as a replacement. A man who has failed badly in his last 2 jobs and never exactly produced an exciting free flowing brand of football.

    Benitez or Sampauli would be sensational, at a push Rodgers is more modern than Moyes, but if only we looked outside Brit managers we might actually find another Pochettino or similar.

  • 3 Slank // Feb 5, 2016 at 9:17 AM


    It wasn’t that bringing in Alan Shearer with 8 games to go was too late, it was that Alan Shearer was useless.

  • 4 Toon_Tom // Feb 5, 2016 at 9:19 AM

    Someone give Sir Alex a bell – see if he fancies a stint at our small team up north!

  • 5 G // Feb 5, 2016 at 9:22 AM

    Dyche from Burnley, we need a manager who can bring the best from a bad bunch, not a man intent on signing more showponies.

  • 6 expatmag // Feb 5, 2016 at 9:22 AM

    The blog should just accept the fact that this administration will ALWAYS select the most inappropriate candidate available.

  • 7 catchy in norway // Feb 5, 2016 at 9:22 AM

    the manager we need is Karanka,, he is the next pochettino

  • 8 Williamson is Bramble in disguise // Feb 5, 2016 at 9:23 AM

    Rotonda – exactly, I would rather have someone who’s never managed in this league, and provides something new and different, look to south America or Spain or Italy. Managers tend to have their best periods when they come into the league with fresh ideas and other teams don’t now how to approach them. Why get someone in who hasn’t been particularly good with teams you’re supposed to compete with, or failed in a league below you like macca.. It’s ridiculous you wouldn’t want the town bike for a misses wouldya, you’d like some out of town or foreign bird that’s abit mysterious that no one knows!

  • 9 Williamson is Bramble in disguise // Feb 5, 2016 at 9:29 AM

    We need a manager unique to nufc… Not the wolly from down the road!

  • 10 toon kk // Feb 5, 2016 at 9:30 AM

    Moyes would be NO different to Wally.
    Also any manager who came in would struggle with a squad of players which lack quality in key areas. Although it’s time for Macca to go.

  • 11 catchy in norway // Feb 5, 2016 at 9:31 AM

    comment 7

  • 12 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Feb 5, 2016 at 9:36 AM

    We are in real danger of being cut off this weekend if we dont get the win Norwich have a great opportunity against Villa who have their best player suspended

    Can see Sunderland getting something against Liverpool as well who cant defend set pieces at all Big Sam will look to take advantage of this no problems

    I see there has been chat online about playing young Gibson at left back this week I think its worth a try he plays this position for the youths and will be raring to go Aarons cannot be asked to do it against West Brom

  • 13 Mag52 // Feb 5, 2016 at 9:37 AM

    If, because of a lack of any alternative due to our injury problems and dire transfer window action, young Aarons is put in at left back again v WBA, let’s not forget he plays where he is told to play.
    He is not a left back, and should not be crucified because he doesn’t play like one.

  • 14 G // Feb 5, 2016 at 9:46 AM

    Catchy, acknowledged, however, I doubt he would come. Unless he does a Macca, he is a shoe in for the Prem next season. Its looking less likely we can say the same.

  • 15 Laurent Robert 32 // Feb 5, 2016 at 9:48 AM

    Can’t quite believe the mentions of Moyes. Sitting back football isn’t going to win me over in a hurry.

  • 16 G // Feb 5, 2016 at 9:50 AM

    @15, totally agree. Wrong man completely, no doubt hes on Charnleys shortlist.

  • 17 Laurent Robert 32 // Feb 5, 2016 at 9:52 AM

    If he’s starting to (maybe only sparked by relegation fears) to spend a bit, then you would have thought that a quality manager would be a priority, but the signings seem to be McClaren’s input as well, so you would think that he isn’t going anywhere.

  • 18 Jail for Ashley // Feb 5, 2016 at 9:55 AM

    From a few threads back.
    How is our injury ridden defence unfortunate. Like the True Geordie says how is anything that happens to us unfortunate, was buying a 20 year old kid with no PL experience and expecting him to be a 15 goal a season striker unfortunate. Was adding one 20 year old defender with no PL.experience to one of the consistently worst defences in the division unfortunate. No, it was money driven to the detriment of the team.

  • 19 hibbitt // Feb 5, 2016 at 9:57 AM

    notice how they roll the one man who didn’t let us or the team down to make the statement pure PR bullshit they know there on the ropes could get nasty on saturday

  • 20 Goldmbemba // Feb 5, 2016 at 9:59 AM

    The thing with our current administration is they are conservative english capitalists. They are sticking with an english manager because they feel they can understand him. A foreigner would be too much of an unknown, someone they might not feel they can trust or control.

    Amazing to think we’ve not had a foreign manager since Gullit.

    Whilst other teams are prepared to go for a foreigner with new ideas, we seem doomed to rot under the flag of good old blighty sink or swim.

  • 21 lesh // Feb 5, 2016 at 9:59 AM


    In our state at the moment we need someone in who’s got a reputation as a quick-fixer, a turnaround manager to help us avoid relegation. We can’t afford to look for a manager who’ll need time to bed in.

    When, hopefully, the season’s safely over, we should be looking for a manager to drive the Club forward – leaving that manager to handle team and recruitment affairs.

    But and in any event, Ashley needs to find a credible football headhunter to recruit the managers we need short and longer term. Charnley has proved to be sadly lacking in most MD skills and his role needs to be redefined along with Carr’s.

    If we survive, Ashley must surely have learned that running a football club is not like running an SD outlet.

  • 22 Ian Toon // Feb 5, 2016 at 10:00 AM

    Outstanding players rarely make good managers. However, it’s a massive risk for anyone contemplating taking over at this time other than as a means of a rich reward over a limited period. The reputation risk is sufficient to deter the likes of Moyes and Rodgers. You only need to consider Shearer’s standing as a potential manager anywhere else. The alternative to Macca regrettably under Ashley is a failed washed out like JFK or Carver. Or a wheeler dealer like Harry.
    I prefer the alternative to all of the above which is 3 points tomorrow and the squad buying into the rescue our season programme thereafter. We have only won 5 times in the PL and need to at least match that for the remainder of the season. Why shouldn’t we get underway tomorrow. Winning becomes a habit. We achieved 40% of our points in a single month of November last season. Keep the faith.

  • 23 stuart no9 // Feb 5, 2016 at 10:00 AM

    typical newcastle season . everyone at the club – cool calm and collected . In the bottom 3, no panic we have 20 games left w’ll be fine . 15 games left – bottom 3, it will come , we only need that one win to kick start o0ur season, 10 games left, were playing some great stuff , just cant seem to get the ball in the net- ive got an honest set of players who will give everything theve got 5 games left -we need to the crowd to get behind us here we need 50000 of these great fans to help us over the line, 3 games left -we are in a relagation battle , the crowd need to stick with us its going to the wire. weve played some great stuff the the new lads have adapted we need to win the last game of the season to stay up its as simple as that , we are going to give it every thing and i know once we kick off these tremendous fans , i know i keep saying it but these fans are without doubt the best in the world we want to do it for them they have been fantastic , wonderful , phenomenal. who have supported us all the way , these unuque set of fans — ok you get my drift, coz this is where the prase starts coming thick and thin now how great we are , one more push on saturday with these great fans behind us , but its going to the wire . 4.45 sunday afternoon — lucky ba”’ards. post match interview — weve made mistakes but we learn from them , yeah yeah yeah, see you next season chaps.

  • 24 Jail for Ashley // Feb 5, 2016 at 10:02 AM

    All jokes aside it has to be the most under qualified board in top flight football anywhere in the world.

  • 25 hibbitt // Feb 5, 2016 at 10:05 AM

    catchy in norway
    sorry mate not a hope of Karanka leaving boro for us….. there on the up with one of best chairman a manager could work for why would he even consider it at the moment

  • 26 Jail for Ashley // Feb 5, 2016 at 10:06 AM

    There aren’t any failed washed out managers with a CV like Mclarens left. Like our goal difference his CV is really good if you take out all the shitty bits.

  • 27 Jib // Feb 5, 2016 at 10:08 AM

    West Brom at home is by no means the last chance saloon as many on here are stating.

    Injuries aside , ourselves and Bournemouth are in the best situation of the bottom 6 or 7 teams with new players who will gel and get better as the second half of the season progresses.

    Aston Villa down.

    Fat Sam thinks they can draw their way to survival nicking the odd flukey win.They have only spent real money on flaky defenders and a Tunisian creative midfielder with a really dodgy temperament.
    Sunlun down.

    Swansea have had the new manager feel good factor evaporate already after a good start with an away win against Everton , they should have stuck with Garry Monk.

    Bournemouth are starting to feel the strain and running out of steam.However they have made some decent signings this window.

    Norwich also made some half decent signings but too little too late I fear.

    West Brom are Sunlun mark2 but with Pulis in a better situation (10 points) than Allardyce

    Although Palace are at this moment in time above Chelsea they won’t be for long. We know what it’s like to have Pardew managing a team in freefall.

    I think by Easter we’ll have pulled clear along with Bournemouth and WBA and 18th will be between , Swansea and Norwich with Palace outsiders.

  • 28 lochinvar // Feb 5, 2016 at 10:11 AM

    The empty rhetoric that blows around St. James’ Park wears thin on the mind.
    Asking the fans to make the difference, predicting that survival will go down to the last game of the season and no doubt suggesting that the players need more sunshine and vitamin C is the last desperate throws of desperation by McLaren et al.

    It’s blindingly obvious that a strong start to any season by any club in any league is a strong defence ( ha ) against later loss of form and future proofs the position against relegation battles.

    How the club can set “targets” of 10th in the League is beyond comprehension – that is so defeatist from the start – in any sport you play every time to win not to be mediocre.

    The whole shamble reeks of some incompetent management reference book ” How not to win and be thankful for anything that you get” co-Authors John Carver and Steve McLaren.
    The people reading it are devoid of passion, competency and anything resembling good judgement.

    It boils my p!ss and I’m a moderate .
    Not winning on Saturday is not an option McLaren .

  • 29 Jail for Ashley // Feb 5, 2016 at 10:11 AM

    He actually warned us at the start of the season with his like a car crash waiting to happen, Charnley and Moncur just watching it slowly roll down the hill waiting to be told to put the hand brake on. As a board member, they now have to sneak behind Mclarens back to discuss his future. Here’s £50 Schteve, take this Mrs out instead of coming to the meeting, oh it’s not important this one, just discussing upping the body searches on the canteen staff.

  • 30 mactoon // Feb 5, 2016 at 10:12 AM

    Ashley doesn’t have a history of sacking managers and I don’t think he will start after allowing McClaren and the rest of the board to spend over £80 million

  • 31 Jail for Ashley // Feb 5, 2016 at 10:14 AM

    He was set a target of eighth, he’s not going to reach it so sack him now, or was it not really the target!

  • 32 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Feb 5, 2016 at 10:15 AM


    Yeah I have wondered how long its going to take before the atmosphere turns sour at the home games Mclaren has been backed by the fans all season

    I think if we lose against West Brom that will be it I feel the fans will have had enough

  • 33 Jail for Ashley // Feb 5, 2016 at 10:16 AM

    I never had faith in a sacked Championship manager who wanted to be as far away from the job as he could get in the first place, I have absolutely zilch now.

  • 34 Mister Tuff // Feb 5, 2016 at 10:17 AM

    This season has been excuse after excuse after excuse with the never achievable manyana promise thrown in, in order to get the stay of execution.
    When manyana never comes, introduce fans into the equation.
    We have the best fans, we need the fans blah blah blah – this PR job worked last season and kept any anti protests to a minimum.
    Will Geordie be tricked again this season.
    These folk do not give a damn about the fans throughout the season – but big them up when the PR machine starts to roll.

  • 35 Jail for Ashley // Feb 5, 2016 at 10:20 AM


  • 36 toon kk // Feb 5, 2016 at 10:21 AM

    Our headless chickens players can’t and never could handle pace and pressure.
    I honestly can’t see us staying up what’s suddenly going to change? We’ve been a poor side for a long time with a loosing attitude.
    Where’s our wins going to come from? Let’s hope Doumbia can score or we have no chance.

  • 37 Ian Toon // Feb 5, 2016 at 10:21 AM

    Jib- When the going gets tough the tough get going. It is a time for a clinical measured approach and not a rant from Trus Geordie. He’s great when things are going well but I’ve found rarely helpful when we’re struggling and then he simply plays to the gallery. A great lowest common denominator. I hope Macca isn’t sleeping well because the toon army certainly aren’t. I was not at the Everton game but Elliot made a special effort to stop and talk to fans who made the trip to watch that rubbish.
    We might well have to beat the mackems and Norwich. I take your point on Palace but they have won twice in the cup.

  • 38 Jail for Ashley // Feb 5, 2016 at 10:21 AM

    If we don’t win mañana he has to go, I’d sack him anyway!

  • 39 banjax // Feb 5, 2016 at 10:24 AM

    Ashley must be ready and have contingencies in place regardless of the result against WBA because if he is dumb enough not to realise by now that we need a new manager to galvanise what is now, a decent squad who are not motivated to play for Steve McLaren. It was McLaren who said judge me after 10 games, well he has had a lot more time than that and £80m of new players to boot and still the same results. This situation alone should tell Ashley where the problem with performance is coming from – the manager. There are plenty of games left after WBA for a top quality manager to get us out of trouble but only if Ashley acts decisively and acts now !

  • 40 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 5, 2016 at 10:24 AM

    The True Geordie puts it very well. But was he saying that at the start of the season? Fair play if he was. It’s always easy to be wise after the event.

    I can’t believe so many fans were happy with this window when we signed no defenders. That’s after the summer when we only added one youngster to a shit defence. They were happy then too. Absolutely incredible.

  • 41 stuart no9 // Feb 5, 2016 at 10:25 AM

    letrs play the last few home games behind closed doors , tha would really F@@k them up .. but then again it would be our fault when we wernt down- the fans are on a hiding to nowt really .

  • 42 Mister Tuff // Feb 5, 2016 at 10:25 AM

    Jail I couldn’t be bothered to find the accented Spanish word -I knew folk would get the gist.

  • 43 Jail for Ashley // Feb 5, 2016 at 10:29 AM

    Mr Tuff,
    Si, a keyboard doesn’t give you many options, it’s a nightmare spelling Jæsper propely when I’m at work.

  • 44 Mister Tuff // Feb 5, 2016 at 10:30 AM

    What I would like to know is Wally himself deciding the tactics by himself or with input from Cathro.
    Is he using wholly Cathro’s input.
    Is he considering all advice -or is he being pig headed and doing what he believes and shunning all other advice.
    Cathro always looks miserable.

  • 45 Jib // Feb 5, 2016 at 10:31 AM

    Ian Toon
    Butch Wilkins has said quite sagely on SSN that the minimum requirement for survival is 10 wins and the draws will look after themselves.
    We have 5 wins thus far with 7 home games to come.
    I do wish McClaren would leave some of the showboaters at home when we play away and just grind out boring draws.

  • 46 stuart no9 // Feb 5, 2016 at 10:31 AM

    lets wait untill many’anna see what happens ,

  • 47 Mister Tuff // Feb 5, 2016 at 10:33 AM

    Jail – I normally just do a Google search to find the word and cut and paste it in. But couldn’t be bothered this morning as I was day dreaming a bit about “Maccas Bwave New World”.

  • 48 Jail for Ashley // Feb 5, 2016 at 10:33 AM

    Who is going to implement this clinical measured approach, is watching a car rolling down a hill gathering momentum and having to be told to run over and apply the hand brake clinical and measured or would letting instinct take over, sprinting to the car and leaning in be considered a knee jerk reaction.

  • 49 toon kk // Feb 5, 2016 at 10:34 AM

    The club needs to answer questions about why they chose not to strengthen a very weak defence and why they keep over looking the problem.

  • 50 Ian Toon // Feb 5, 2016 at 10:34 AM

    Jail- We are where we are! The postmortem if required comes at the end of the season. Or are you suggesting a change at this time and if so for Whom?
    I personally will review the outcome of tomorrow’s game.
    Supporting your team is unconditional. Notwithstanding the majority of comment on Ashley and the lack of management of our football club. The decibel level tomorrow will be higher than at the WHU game.

  • 51 Jail for Ashley // Feb 5, 2016 at 10:36 AM

    If you’re on about the vote it was because there wasn’t a third option.

  • 52 Jail for Ashley // Feb 5, 2016 at 10:39 AM

    I don’t know who, I am not privvy to who’s available and who would come, if it was my job to be I’d be seeking advice from someone in the know. Aren’t post mortems carried out after death.

  • 53 Ian Toon // Feb 5, 2016 at 10:42 AM

    Jib- My heart does rule my head when it comes to the toon. I did pick up on your happy with a draw comment pre match.
    Macca’s future rests on the outcome of our season. That concentrates the mind.
    If we do win tomorrow that would also have WBA looking over their shoulder. If not already. We need to be a patient if we don’t get off to the flier we did against WHU.

  • 54 Jib // Feb 5, 2016 at 10:44 AM

    If we change managers now what message will that send the players ? We sink or swim with McClaren and his coaching staff.
    It’s time for the team to play the way all the fans know it can.
    We’ve had 2 pretty rubbish away losses in a row but before that we beat West Ham at home and had a nip and tuck 3-3 draw with Man U , he just has to get the squad back on track.

  • 55 2 goals 1 cup // Feb 5, 2016 at 10:44 AM

    just watched the full Everton game and from looking at it i dont think it was as bad as it looked the major mistake from mclaren thou was not starting mitrovic. Sissoko for me i cant understand why he always gets stared i honestly think his only use to us is having him as a impact sub last 20 30 mins of a game when the opposition is tired.shelvey ive been impressed with and he was good first half along with saviat but still not up to match fitness which you could tell by his passes in the second half for west brom i would start this team ……………………Elliott
    ……townsend ..Mitrovic…….perez ……………………………………………………………………………………….. we need more qwality in centre mid thats why i would drop winaldom back i would put townsend on right side because thats where he has had his best form cant afford the time of experimenting to see if he turn in to a good left winger. And with his pace and long shots and getting on to mitros flick ons it would pin teams back taking pressure of the defence and with perez or doumbia the other side of mitro i think we could be a threat going forward

  • 56 2 goals 1 cup // Feb 5, 2016 at 10:46 AM

    forget mbenga injured change that to colo

  • 57 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 5, 2016 at 10:48 AM

    It could not be described as a good window when it was negligent.

    How could anyone vote it was a good window when the summer window showed that adding one young defender was crass stupidity? Voting it was a good window simply says “Well done Charnley snd Carr. You’ve done well”.

    We’re in the relegation zone not because we haven’t got enough midfielders. We had a shit defence last year when we escaped relegation by the skin of our teeth. Mbemba’s now injured and Willo is gone. Perhaps Curtis Good could make an appearance! Is that who they’re counting on?

    There was no need for any third button.

  • 58 Ian Toon // Feb 5, 2016 at 10:49 AM

    Jail- There is no point in just whinging. You need to think problems through. Way up the options and come to a decision.
    Simply to say I wouldn’t have appointed him in the first place doesn’t help. Constructive and not ” if things don’t change they stay the same”. Sometimes doing nothing is the right solution. Whilst decisive action is sometimes required. Just whinging might make you feel better but it doesn’t help to achieve. Positive outcome.

  • 59 The next Mike Williamson // Feb 5, 2016 at 10:58 AM

    moyes won’t come at this stage. His career has been nosediving and a relegation will finish him. We can only get someone desperate and prepared to manage in championship. Hoddle sherwood redknapp Pearson. If we’re lucky laundrup might come.

  • 60 Toon-Prodigy // Feb 5, 2016 at 10:59 AM

    They have prioritised goals this window and added to the quality going forward. Im not really getting why posters are finding this difficult to understand? Injuries have been unfortunate in defence but they obviously think we can get by with what we have. It would be great to get it all done in one window but surely it’s a long shot in January.

    We need to strenghen the defence but it’s a plan for the Summer no doubt. Aswell as having a poor record at the back it is a disgrace also up top.

    They have caused their own problems because of recruitment in the past, but that said, it cannot all be fixed over two windows either. Goals win games and im pleased they have added to the quality in this department and eventually getting some experience through the door.

    To say this window is a failure is wrong I think. It’s going to take another window which they did admit to. On McClaren, if results do not improve in the next few games a change will be needed although I would like to see a manager stay and have time as the squad is further added with more of the right players that we should already have at a club like NUFC.

    We still have yet to see doumbia, im confident and surely there is enough quality in this squad to avoid any disaster. If it isn’t enough that will be the time to call this window a failure as they caused all of their problems not over two transfer windows but over many more years of neglect with regards to the first team.

  • 61 Jib // Feb 5, 2016 at 10:59 AM

    I get the awful feeling that Sissoko was talked out of a move with a promise of starting every game. The sod only puts in a shift when he knows he’s on telly.
    I hope someone knacks him in training.

  • 62 Goldmbemba // Feb 5, 2016 at 11:00 AM

    The stars are lining up lads! -_-

    “Jonny Evans will miss West Brom’s trip to Newcastle on Saturday after being ruled out for several weeks with a hamstring injury.”

    “Saido Berahino is not going to start against Newcastle tomorrow, revealed Albion head coach Tony Pulis, but he will be given 90 minutes against Peterborough next Wednesday.”

  • 63 Jib // Feb 5, 2016 at 11:01 AM

    If we’re lucky laundrup might come.

    Oh dear

  • 64 Rotonda heights // Feb 5, 2016 at 11:04 AM


    Pienso que si perdemos el partido en sabado sera el fin por SM, pero con un dueno como Mike Ashley nunca sabes.

  • 65 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 5, 2016 at 11:04 AM

    This season, like the last, is a disaster. The same people who brought us this shit did not want to re-visit their mistakes to see if lessons could be learnt; they told the Fans Forum to jog on. I know Jib thinks you can paint a rosy picture by forgetting about stonking defeats when looking at the stats, but life’s not that simple. This is the real world not some xbox game in which you can cheat in the privacy of your bedroom.

  • 66 Rotonda heights // Feb 5, 2016 at 11:06 AM


    Would love Laudrup. Great football, charismatic guy. even if it’s a short term boost.

  • 67 Rotonda heights // Feb 5, 2016 at 11:08 AM


    Don’t you mean WEIGH up the options?

  • 68 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Feb 5, 2016 at 11:08 AM

    Jail…imagine if you used the same amount of time thinking through the BS that comes out of your mouth as you do to relearning the alphabet 😉

    …imagine what that could lead to! Probably still BS but you wouldn’t have half arsed it!

  • 69 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Feb 5, 2016 at 11:09 AM

    When we played West Ham we spanked them in that first half we were all over them like a rash and Payet was made to look like a pub player because we kept taking the ball off him and crowding him out

    In the last 2 games what has happened to that level of pressing? Is it as simple as Colback being injured ? Are the players tired ? Or is it because at home the players are scored to go hiding and away from home they just stop putting in the effort ?

    Mclaren should be able to demand work rate every game but we just let Watford and Everton pass it about unchallenged

  • 70 Mister Tuff // Feb 5, 2016 at 11:10 AM

    Referring to an earlier post by shaun83 in respect of the use of words in polls.
    He pointed out using “can” in a poll question, where perhaps “will” would be a better choice as both words mean two different things and therefore would have two differents answers.
    “Can Wally win the next game” versus “Will Wally win the next game”.
    The first option using can -asks whether Wally has the ability/knowledge to achieve the aim – clearly he might have -which is a totally different question to “will” he win the next game.
    Pollsters and decent PR outfits use these subtleties to engineer answers they want.
    However in respect of the blog polls I suspect it is not a deliberate ploy to design question to trick those taking part – just a lack of knowledge/awareness as to how these polls can be designed to give non accurate answers.

  • 71 G // Feb 5, 2016 at 11:10 AM

    Never had you down as a Laudrup man RH. Personaly I think he got sussed, then was out of his depth. I suppose the measure of the man would be finding out if he learned from the experience, and adapts? A risky appointment imo, however, deffo an upgrade on Macca

  • 72 Jail for Ashley // Feb 5, 2016 at 11:10 AM

    I am not whinging, I am calling for Mclaren to be sacked if we don’t win tomorrow. The message it would send out to the players is that we won’t tolerate losers!

  • 73 The next Mike Williamson // Feb 5, 2016 at 11:11 AM

    mcclaren needs to stop saying his players are playing well etc because they aren’t improving. maybe a fergie style roasting is what they need. maybe he’s good at keeping moral up through the week but on Saturday the players need to fear their manager.

  • 74 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 5, 2016 at 11:16 AM


    “Im not really getting why posters are finding this difficult to understand?”

    That is the most complacent post I’ve read in a long time. Incredible!

    “Injuries have been unfortunate in defence but they obviously think we can get by with what we have. It would be great to get it all done in one window but surely it’s a long shot in January.”

    Hello. This is NUFC. At the start of the season I predicted injuries. I’m not claiming any special psychic powers.

    Great to get it all done in one window? What? A summer window and a January window and they can only manage one defender, a youngster! With a budget of £100m?

    You couldn’t make it up.

  • 75 Jib // Feb 5, 2016 at 11:24 AM

    Rotonda I suspect you contructed that Spanish sentence yourself without Google.

    If so well done , most Spaniards would get your drift.

    However in matters of opinion it is better to conditionalise your future tense verb thus:-
    it will——————va a (go)
    it could—————-podria (capable)
    it should————-debería (must or ought to be)

  • 76 Goldmbemba // Feb 5, 2016 at 11:29 AM

    Im confident Townsend will pull one of these out of the bag tomorrow:

  • 77 toon kk // Feb 5, 2016 at 11:30 AM

    Mac did make a terrible tactical error against Everton, we basically played without a striker. But he was genuinely as disappointed as we were/are at just how sh.t our players were, there was no excuse for that performance.
    The players should come forward and explain the reason behind it. Why did Elliott try and the rest couldn’t care less.
    Answers please.

  • 78 toon kk // Feb 5, 2016 at 11:38 AM

    Our players NEED a f-ing good rollicking.

  • 79 Toon-Prodigy // Feb 5, 2016 at 11:39 AM


    Hello to you.

    They tried to get a LB in. How can you not be happy with the money and signings made so far in the past two windows? It seems to me you are nit picking. I could understand if we hadn’t strengthened anywhere at all but they have added to the quality to postions that needed it. They will spend on the defence in the summer.

    They have Janmaat, Colo, Mbemba, Dummett, Taylor, Haidara, Colback, Mbabu, Sterry to see us through.

    Injuries are unfortunate right now but if it was a choice between gambling on more goals than keeping the ball out the net i’d go for more goals. As i’v said, they have tried to get defenders in it didn’t come off. I’ll add how difficult it could be to get top players through the door in January to sign up to a club in a relegation spot.

    I know the defence needs upgrading but so did other positions. Im certaintly not going to nit pick while we are shedding out 80 million on upgrading other positions. All we need to do is stay up and the defence will be upgraded, I don’t doubt that for a second as they have already tried in the last window.

  • 80 Mister Tuff // Feb 5, 2016 at 11:40 AM

    The talk in some of the papers etc suggests Moyes and Rodgers are waiting in the wings to take over if Wally Blusterman gets the bullet. Wouldn’t really want either of them. However, just in case I’d like to sound out the blog with a couple of phrases I’d like to (get in first to) coin.
    1. Moysies Bwave New World.
    2. Wodgers Bwave New World.

  • 81 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 5, 2016 at 11:42 AM

    When Sissoko got robbed of possession and made no effort to get back when they had a spare in the box, I’d have hooked him on the spot. Makro, of course, is too much in awe of what a fine physical specimen he is.

  • 82 SPRINGY // Feb 5, 2016 at 11:44 AM

    morning all
    toon kk
    ya right macca dropped a clanger against everton….45 mins of time wasted in that first half, that may come back to haunt us at the end of the season…..everton were nervous and had’nt been playing well for a while…we should of taken advantage of the situation but due to maccas clanger it was lost…the players are the only ones for me who can get us out this as macca is’nt up to it, so whatever side he picks the players need to bring everything they have to every match for the rest of the season…and that still may not be enough.

  • 83 Jail for Ashley // Feb 5, 2016 at 11:46 AM

    Myself and Rotunda have been doing a Spanish course which I have now completed, you have no right to point out mistakes in foreign language grammar when you rely on Google translate, remember your cock up with the verb ganar.

  • 84 Jail for Ashley // Feb 5, 2016 at 11:48 AM

    An LB was essential driven home by the fact Aarons had to play there.

  • 85 Ian Toon // Feb 5, 2016 at 11:52 AM

    Blackley- Yours earlier. I agree with much of what you say. However, It’s like your house is on fire you don’t sit around discussing how the fire happened, you firstly put it out! Jail for one doesn’t appreciate the point that we are where we are. I would be reluctant to sack Macca unless we lose tomorrow and we witness an abject showing. You will make your presence felt and I value your comments because you watch football.x
    The consensus view for more than two seasons has been that we need defensive reinforcements LB and CB as well as a ST. To date not a lot has changed. I suspect Macca has known that from soon after enrolling. Again I suspect that he has had to be resigned to making progress but not yet full autonomy. Forget the fans forum- I regularly chat to football fans of other clubs and they are amused at the prospect of their manager being interrogated over tactics, transfer interests and inner company activity generally. At best you could expect a stock response.
    This season has been a continuation of last and I share the view that you can make a mistake but should learn from it. Macca has made changes but the so called football committee are still all powerful . Carr does need to move aside and let a more progressive younger individual devise a modern global scouting programme and network.
    I favour the instalment of a Chris Mort professional who would transport us beyond the amateurish Charnley. Mort was the last individual associated with the club to inspire confidence outside the confines of SJP.
    Catch you later.

  • 86 manxpie // Feb 5, 2016 at 11:52 AM

    Well the sun reckon we’ll be starting with Liam Gibson at LB tomorrow anyone know anything about him or watched him
    another ginger youngster

  • 87 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 5, 2016 at 11:59 AM

    What can I say? I simply can’t think where to begin. I’ll keep it brief.

    Suffice to say, £80m spent, one young defender bought who is not the strong, commanding CB with leadership qualities that we need.

    You don’t doubt the defence will be upgraded. Why wasn’t it done last summer after our defence helped in nearly having us relegated?

    If it is eventually upgraded, will the recruitment be as underwhelming as the midfield and forward line recruitment?

    Ask yourself. How come we are in the relegation zone with all that money spent?

    You say all we need to do is stay up. That’s okay then.

    We had a clean slate and pots to spend in the summer but the mugs at the club are completely incompetent.

    You clearly trust Doumbia’s going to get the goals. Did you say Mitro would when we signed him? Or Perez would? I was arguing with plenty on here who told me they would. They were complacent too.

  • 88 Toon-Prodigy // Feb 5, 2016 at 12:00 PM


    The intent is there though, they are acting on it.

    Im not up in arms like some people at the moment, im quitely happy with us actually spending money and upgrading positions and trying to rectify their wrong doings, as a Toon fan it’s all I can ask for.

    It would be brilliant if we could actually get it all done in 1-2 windows but we all know what state the first team squad was/is in so im willing to wait until the summer like they asked.

    I’ll start worrying if we are in the bottom 3 with 5 games to go, until then im pleased with the investment and type of players brought in duringg the last window.

  • 89 anthc // Feb 5, 2016 at 12:03 PM

    It’s a must win imo even a draw won’t cut it.
    Just been watching highlights of the best player I had the pleasure of watching in a black and white shirt, David ginola. Boy what I would give to have him in our side now. I bet even at 49 he’s better than any of our wingers! Mitrovic would be banging them in for fun. Man love for ginola, what a player…

  • 90 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 5, 2016 at 12:05 PM

    I think Jail and I would love to take a water cannon to Gallowgate and deal with the root cause of the fire.

  • 91 Jib // Feb 5, 2016 at 12:13 PM

    I didn’t cock up the verb “ganar”
    I thought you were more advanced in your studies than you were .
    I foolishly thought I was being helpful but you (as you are now ) just jumped on me in your usual snidey ignorant fashion.

    Rotonda – if it helps.
    Your sentence could be construed by a Spaniard who didn’t know the circumstances that it was a given McClaren had only the game at SJP tomorrow to save himself.

    Jail as well as ganar meaning “to win”
    all these verbs do as well
    tener éxito

    I used the imperative form “gana” which is a bit slangy for the noun , but most young Spaniards do so.
    The noun in textbooks is usually given as “victoria”

  • 92 Jib // Feb 5, 2016 at 12:18 PM

    6″1″ from Stanley
    Loaned to the Heed before.
    Used to regularly save Jak Alnwick’s ass.
    Good prospect.

  • 93 Jail for Ashley // Feb 5, 2016 at 12:23 PM

    You mastered the art of backhanded snidey comments when posting as jeff from Benwell and have carried it on with your new persona, stop crying when people give you back the same, I could have googled those words my self. Gracias por nada

  • 94 Jail for Ashley // Feb 5, 2016 at 12:34 PM

    But you are not a young Spaniard are you ?

  • 95 SuperShearer // Feb 5, 2016 at 12:42 PM

    Surely this game is make or break for McC. A loss should see MA asking what is going on, a draw would not be good enough, only a win will suffice. It’s very simple: if we don’t pick up points NOW, we’re down. But then I predicted we’d be relegated after about 6 games this season because I’m yet to see enough energy and grit from our players. Add to that McC getting everything horribly wrong against Everton and I genuinely despair for our Premier League status.

  • 96 Jib // Feb 5, 2016 at 12:45 PM

  • 97 Belfast // Feb 5, 2016 at 12:48 PM

    It’s so cute when you and Ian chat Jail. Now on yer bike !!

    Tomorrow is obviously a must win game, but I’m going with a 0-0 myself.

  • 98 Ian Toon // Feb 5, 2016 at 12:50 PM

    Blackley – I share your frustration.
    It’s what you do after that! AND realistically what do you do after that ? That’s Jail for Ashley’s dilemma. In his scenario we could end up with anyone as our coach – it’s not his problem. He’s resigned to relegation.
    It’s quite feasible that Macca knows what has to be done but it was always going to be a slow process to change. A major issue side stepped by his predecessor(s) was having any say in who was bought. Carr has much to answer for on his judgment of players.
    Macca seems to be seen as a poor manager but a good coach. The glaring weaknesses in the team have not been addressed. My point is that if Macca dont cut the mustard now is not the time to make changes. The root and branch approach was only partly implemented.
    Radical changes need to be made whether we stay up of not.
    At present JFK after 24 games has a better points tally than Macca – here’s hoping he doesn’t come season end.
    Are you in good voice for tomorrow – every little helps . You knew it wasn’t going to be plain sailing .

  • 99 toon kk // Feb 5, 2016 at 12:57 PM

    Take Leicester for example they’re top of the premier league but they’re only there through grit hard work and determination, they do have a excellent striker in Vardy, but they haven’t a world class line up at least on paper. The work ethic they put in should be shown to our lacklustre championship candidates our players might learn something.
    The sad thing is quality players seem to go back over once they join us.

  • 100 Ian Toon // Feb 5, 2016 at 12:58 PM

    Belfast – Me old mucker. Good to hear a friendly voice and receive a warm handshake.
    Jail knows I remember him having to leave his “Ashley Out” flag outside when frisked by a steward at Everton a few seasons back. He hoped I would have forgotten about it- LOL.
    How do you see the current situation and outcome tomorrow?

  • 101 Belfast // Feb 5, 2016 at 12:59 PM

    Pulis seems to be under a bit of pressure at the moment, he was getting a lot of stick the other night.

  • 102 lochinvar // Feb 5, 2016 at 1:00 PM

    From the BBC:
    There are better uses of £400,000 ….
    A High Court judge has described legal action brought against Rangers by a sportswear firm run by Newcastle United owner Mike Ashley as “ridiculous”.
    His comments came as Sports Direct halted litigation after claiming a breach of confidentiality in relation to a commercial deal.
    Mr Justice Peter Smith approved the discontinuation of the claim at a High Court hearing in London on Wednesday.
    He told lawyers the case had been a “ridiculous piece of litigation”.
    The litigation had been running for nine months and a trial was scheduled for next week.
    Mr Justice Smith had already cleared Rangers’ chairman Dave King of committing contempt of court, following allegations made by Mr Ashley.
    In dismissing the contempt of court charge, the judge said the case should never have been brought and was an abuse of process.
    Sports Direct had previously failed in an attempt to have Mr King jailed for allegedly breaching a gagging order relating to the club’s retail deal.
    On Wednesday, lawyers for Sports Direct said the company would cover all lawyers’ bills run up during the dispute. The judge was told that total legal costs were estimated to be about £400,000.

  • 103 JamRec // Feb 5, 2016 at 1:00 PM

    And the negativity around St James’ Park continues to grow… again! I know, If we all chant Sack Mac at the game tomorrow then we are bound to win… Or how about we all hurl abuse at the players… Or we could just sit there in silence… because these are all proven ways of getting the best out of our young team!

    Sick of it!

  • 104 Belfast // Feb 5, 2016 at 1:01 PM

    As always Ian me old mucka.

  • 105 Rotonda heights // Feb 5, 2016 at 1:04 PM


    I was familiar with

    triunfar – triumph
    conseguir – get / obtain
    lograr – achieve
    alcanzar – reach
    llevarse – to take
    tener éxito – to have success

    but had not come across vencer before

  • 106 lochinvar // Feb 5, 2016 at 1:04 PM

    From the BBC:
    I can think of a better use for £400,000
    A High Court judge has described legal action brought against Rangers by a sportswear firm run by Newcastle United owner Mike Ashley as “ridiculous”.
    His comments came as Sports Direct halted litigation after claiming a breach of confidentiality in relation to a commercial deal.
    Mr Justice Peter Smith approved the discontinuation of the claim at a High Court hearing in London on Wednesday.
    He told lawyers the case had been a “ridiculous piece of litigation”.
    The litigation had been running for nine months and a trial was scheduled for next week.
    Mr Justice Smith had already cleared Rangers’ chairman Dave King of committing contempt of court, following allegations made by Mr Ashley.
    In dismissing the contempt of court charge, the judge said the case should never have been brought and was an abuse of process.
    Sports Direct had previously failed in an attempt to have Mr King jailed for allegedly breaching a gagging order relating to the club’s retail deal.
    On Wednesday, lawyers for Sports Direct said the company would cover all lawyers’ bills run up during the dispute. The judge was told that total legal costs were estimated to be about £400,000.

  • 107 Jail for Ashley // Feb 5, 2016 at 1:05 PM

    Yer old mate Belfast is taking the pi$$ out of you, you fruitcake. Why was I hoping you’d forgotten about the flag, I thought it was sack llambias that was bringing up the past, is that another slip up carl.

  • 108 Goofy // Feb 5, 2016 at 1:12 PM

    We have one option tomorrow.. Attack!

    There’s no defence with Dummett, Mbemba injured and lacelles banned. Got to throw caution to the wind and basically score more tgan them. Mitro and Perez upfront, Wini sitting behind. Drop Sissoko for a game or two, him and Hanmaat are not linking to well lately. I noticed Janmaat always gives Sussoko a scowl when the one two doesn’t come off or qgen he’s ran 50 yards for Sussoko to miss control the ball.
    They could try Marveaux or Aarons on the right.

  • 109 The Diamond dogs hoojars // Feb 5, 2016 at 1:12 PM

    What about this star coaching staff that were assembled, havnt made a jot of difference have they, so Mr Mclaren, we have judged you over 10/12/15/20 games and it’s a shambles, and pack the positivity crap in, its getting in my hoojars big time, spend more time making your own decisions instead of what some psyologist tells you to do in some book. Frigan fed up with it.

  • 110 SPRINGY // Feb 5, 2016 at 1:13 PM

    looking at our remaining fixtures we need a win the morra,…now we have the window out the way
    scum-home=1(pains me to say it)
    16 points…but we are so unpredicatable it could be nowhere near that many or even more!…not sure if thats me being realistic,hopeful,optimistic or deluded but if the wba game goes wrong could be a few games b4 we get a win, and could be out of sight if the games go against us.

  • 111 Jail for Ashley // Feb 5, 2016 at 1:13 PM

    I think the crowd will turn on him if they don’t hit the ground running tomorrow!

  • 112 Goofy // Feb 5, 2016 at 1:14 PM

    Haha. My spelling’s on top form.

  • 113 JamRec // Feb 5, 2016 at 1:18 PM

    The crowd needs to stick behind the team tomorrow, form the start! Don’t wait until the first goal, let your voice be heard and spur the players on to get an early goal!

  • 114 Belfast // Feb 5, 2016 at 1:21 PM

    I reckon we’re sinking like the titanic Ian and a brand new captain will make no difference, not strengthening the defence was a major own goal in my opinion.

    I’m still looking at Norwich though and thinking we could possibly overtake them, but then I have a hunch the mackems will probably escape at our expense.

  • 115 Ian Toon // Feb 5, 2016 at 1:24 PM

    Sorry Jail I’m not ready to switch to your script just yet. You remember. The writings been on the wall for seasons with Ashley’s buying approach. Ashley has assembled a bunch of misfits who haven’t got a clue about running a football club. We’ve needed a dominant CB and a ST for seasons. Instead we’ve spent money on a basket case of a team with negative momentum and a failure of a Championship manager. Oops!
    Change of tack-
    Ashley isn’t my favourite human being but he has spent a lot of money over the last two windows. It’s the coaches fault we’ve bought mediocrity. Oops!

  • 116 stan anderson // Feb 5, 2016 at 1:26 PM

    No coach with any ambition or self respect will work for this slug of a man.
    Forget about even Moyes he would,nt do this job.Not that the majority of us want him to come like.
    Why are we dreaming of a new man,it wont happen.
    He did not sack P45 or Charver when he should,ve done,many times.
    We are doomed,doomed,isay.

    Ashley OOT

  • 117 Ian Toon // Feb 5, 2016 at 1:27 PM

    Belfast – we could well have to beat the scum and not lose at Norwich.
    It’s only a game – Yer right!

  • 118 Jail for Ashley // Feb 5, 2016 at 1:28 PM

    You’ve lost me???

  • 119 Slank // Feb 5, 2016 at 1:31 PM

    Toon @ 99

    What Leicester have is confidence, and in abundance.

    Players don’t lose their skills they only lose their confidence.

    It’s the ‘X’ factor that makes all the difference between a team winning or losing. It can’t be bought or coached. It can evaporate and be quite difficult to regain. Chelsea know this.

    The one thing that prevents the growth of confidence is unrelentless criticism of the club and players. Players are human and just like all humans feel the pain of criticism and it very often it doesn’t improve their confidence.

  • 120 Belfast // Feb 5, 2016 at 1:33 PM

    Some winnable home games there for sure, but a lot of these teams will rock up and be happy with a point, sit deep and hit you on the break.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if we lost a few of those winnable home games.

  • 121 Ian Toon // Feb 5, 2016 at 1:37 PM

    Run that past me again. Why didn’t we buy a CB, LB and ST?
    We are where we are. Being a fan is unconditional.
    At least we both want to win tomorrow. I’ll provide you with an alternative script. No worries.
    Just think if Ashley did ever disappear so would you.
    Mind it didn’t stop Sack Llambias – you crafty old fox. Oops!
    Get yourself on Yer bike and join the 52,000 in support of yer team.
    I must go duty calls.

  • 122 Jib // Feb 5, 2016 at 1:37 PM

    The judgement from Mr Justice Peter Smith in the High Court in London, was issued on the morning of Friday 22nd January 2016.
    Two weeks ago !!
    Why bring it up now ?

  • 123 mindshaft // Feb 5, 2016 at 1:37 PM

    how about sacking Schteve and offering Mourhinou a contract to end of season – he saves us and he enhances his reputation while he waits for manure job – we still get relegated and people will say we were a lost cause anyway so no damage to him … it’s win win

  • 124 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Feb 5, 2016 at 1:45 PM

    Even if we get another manager in say after tomorrow what chance do they have with the defence available? Colo and Janmaat are the only fit players in the squad so its going to have to be a midfielder or a young player who has never played at this level at all

    Unless the manager can be allowed to sign a few players who are out of contract I cant see how they would be able to sort out the defence again this is the clubs fault for not buying the cover we needed

  • 125 magscar // Feb 5, 2016 at 1:46 PM

    No problem with urging the crowd to get behind team – it used to be a given.

    What we need is for McClaren to set up team properly (dropping players if necessary) and use his substitutes well with clear instructions before, during and at half time. Not just tomorrow but from now on.

    Looking at the different forecasts from posters we will need wins away at Norwich and Villa unless some other team implodes- given how we managed the wins at Spurs and Bournemouth not super confident unless there is rapid and sustained improvement.

  • 126 manxpie // Feb 5, 2016 at 1:48 PM

    The scums next 5 games are
    Liverpool A
    Man poo H
    West Ham A
    Palace H
    Southampton A

    villa A
    west ham H
    Leicester A
    Chelsea H
    swans A

    west Bromwich
    Toon A
    Everton A
    palace H
    Leicester A
    man poo H

    arsenal H
    Stoke H
    Watford A
    Southampton H
    toon A

  • 127 Jail for Ashley // Feb 5, 2016 at 1:50 PM

    You don’t like seeing Mikey being knocked to you!

  • 128 SPRINGY // Feb 5, 2016 at 1:55 PM

    3- 4 points each for all of them

  • 129 manxpie // Feb 5, 2016 at 1:55 PM

    Looking at that we should hopefully be pulling away from the scum starting tomorrow
    And hope for a villa win tomorrow too plus West Ham can really help us out over the next few weeks
    can’t see Bournemouth slipping up to much and west Bromwich will probably pick up a few points to keep them just out of it so for me it’s only Norwich we can take over

  • 130 Jail for Ashley // Feb 5, 2016 at 1:55 PM

    It’s very easy to get behind the team when they put the effort in like they did against WHam.

  • 131 hibbitt // Feb 5, 2016 at 1:57 PM

    i am not one to say who the best fans are unlike some on here but i do think the fans that go to games will have a far bigger say in Mc’s future then the one’s who don’t go to games but rant on here ………… my hope is charnley gets his share of any stick going round …..the crowd will turn at some point just don’t know when that will be WBA could be a turning point one way or the other just have to wait and see

  • 132 posada // Feb 5, 2016 at 1:58 PM

    A Lawyer will always tell you you have a case if you are prepared to pay for their services.
    Seems Mike’s judgement is no better on other matters.
    Bye bye to 400k, but I suppose it’s his money.

  • 133 posada // Feb 5, 2016 at 2:02 PM

    Time for a rant.
    Carr. Hides behind the title of Chief Scout. He is essentially the Director of Football. Works from home. Not at the club day in day out.
    You never hear him speak. Never has to explain his decisions. Is never held to account.
    People seem wise to that on this blog now. It’s simply a stupid way to conduct your affairs.

  • 134 Jib // Feb 5, 2016 at 2:02 PM

    If you were capable of finding it you would see at the time the action was brought I posted it was stupid and frivolous and a waste of time and money and I forecast the judgement perfectly .
    Lawyers must love Sports Direct they spend loads with them , that’s probably how Ashley was able to get Chris Mort to be chairman of NUFC for a year , I wish Mort was still here 🙁

  • 135 magscar // Feb 5, 2016 at 2:11 PM


    agreed and I wasn’t having a did at crowd on the contrary trying to say we/they know our part in things- just manager,coaches and players need to keep focused on theirs and we would have a chance.

    As you may have gathered my real concern is our away performances are not filling me with confidence and our fans give their all at every away game!!

  • 136 hibbitt // Feb 5, 2016 at 2:12 PM

    think carr has been with us about 6 years in that time i have only seen him at 3/4 home games how on earth can he pick /say which players we buy if we have to have him he should be chief scout or DF not both its just not working

  • 137 Jail for Ashley // Feb 5, 2016 at 2:17 PM

    I think I’m going to go up there tomorrow.

  • 138 lochinvar // Feb 5, 2016 at 2:18 PM

    Thanks for that.
    Sorry I don’t have time to read the Count News – just saw the details posted today on BBC and while of ( marginal) interest it does feature the illustrious leader !
    Granted Saturdays match somewhat more important.

  • 139 magscar // Feb 5, 2016 at 2:22 PM


    Quite agree on effect of fans at matches as opposed to on here as there isn’t always the same groundswell of opinion in the home crowd as it mounts on here.

    I reckon the crowd will get behind team but will gather force with a good start and performance. My worry would be that if things start badly crowd might turn and it would be like shooting ourselves in the foot.

    Crowds cannot be controlled with an on and off switch ( well they can at grounds which try to whip up the support with records after goals and such) but what is played out in front of them has a clear galvanising effect. A popular manager some bad luck with injuries etc can allow for a lot of forgiveness from crowd but take away those ingredients and a big crowd can become a negative very quickly.

    McClaren is running out of sympathy very quickly now so it might not take much to take crowd over the edge – hope not

  • 140 reilly // Feb 5, 2016 at 2:23 PM

    Mbemba could be out for more than a month.

  • 141 magscar // Feb 5, 2016 at 2:26 PM


    Hope it isn’t to start an “Ashley Out” avalanche 🙂

  • 142 posada // Feb 5, 2016 at 2:29 PM

    Not working is more than an understatement. Some years ago I was working for a boss and for whatever reason he explained this concept.
    Authority and Accountability should never be separated.
    It other words if you call the shots and get it wrong you take responsibility.
    Carr calls the shots, but he lets the managers take the flak for failure.

  • 143 Jail for Ashley // Feb 5, 2016 at 2:31 PM

    With 80M spent it will take a lot to whip up the sentiment of last season.

  • 144 catchy in norway // Feb 5, 2016 at 2:31 PM

    We are going to catch palace, 🙂

  • 145 AncientC // Feb 5, 2016 at 2:35 PM

    “Carr. Hides behind the title of Chief Scout. He is essentially the Director of Football.”

    Only he isn’t a director, or any other position. He is the Chief Scout.

  • 146 Mister Tuff // Feb 5, 2016 at 2:38 PM

    lochinvar – you were correct -do not let the gaffe meister Jib Jibberish question your original post which dealt with the commercial confidentiality issues between SD and Rangers – resolved at court two days ago – hence a recent news item worthy of a post.
    The other part to this case was the contempt of court side of the case which was resolved about a fortnight ago.
    Clearly Jib Jiberrish is not up to speed.

  • 147 AncientC // Feb 5, 2016 at 2:39 PM

    posada “Carr calls the shots, but he lets the managers take the flak for failure.”

    Which shots is Carr calling exactly? Apart from handing over a list of players for Charnley to muse over.

  • 148 magscar // Feb 5, 2016 at 2:40 PM


    Sound concept which many would say should apply equally to Ashley as he is top man.

    My take is he appoints the person(s) to run a business for him so they assume those responsibilities for him in the first place but overall he has to look at the part he played in the outcome as well.

    End of season should see some very uncomfortable sessions for Charnley Carr and McClaren ( if still here).

    I’d be surprised if both Charnley and Carr survive a critical assessment of their poor performances for a second season running without there being a change in their roles with someone coming in to oversee them or even the boot for one or both.

    IMO a sensible appointment of a personable, knowledgeable and effective “football man” reporting to Ashley would go a long way to resolving the eternal problems we have inside the club.

  • 149 Williamson is Bramble in disguise // Feb 5, 2016 at 2:42 PM

    Just seen maccas comments about how we were unlucky in the Watford game, riles me right up does this bloke actually believe this crap? Or think anyone else does for that matter, we were just as bad as we were in the everton game just watford wernt as good, and everton wernt that good we just made them look i t we were that bad.. Just lucky it wasn’t city or arsenal… When’s he going to grow a pair and put it how it is!

  • 150 magscar // Feb 5, 2016 at 2:50 PM


    Tomorrow rightly or wrongly I think the home crowd will have McClaren and certain players ( Sissoko? Colo?) in their sights before Ashley but as I said earlier it is the match played out in front of you that is the catalyst. Good display keeps it positive but lack of passion or losing ball etc will have crowd more likely to focus on individuals .

    Without likes of obvious candidates like Goufran, Obertan Williamson it is difficult to predict their focus on an individual but the 2 mentioned would be my guesses if not playing well and we are losing. If atmosphere becomes toxic then who knows they might all get a slating.

  • 151 brklyngeordie // Feb 5, 2016 at 2:55 PM

    Relegated or not the season will go down as a failure which should be enough to get Macca the sack..

    Managers that would be worth a look Rodgers, Dyche, DeBoer ,Laudrup, Benitez and what about Pellegrini? Definitely need shake up after season

  • 152 Mister Tuff // Feb 5, 2016 at 2:56 PM

    Jib Jibberish – as I recall you did lose the ganar debate – and clearly were getting nouns mixed up with verbs.
    Now you suggest you were using an imperative form of the infinitive ganar in substituion for a noun meaning a win.
    What a load of cobblers.
    You need further study old chap.

  • 153 Goldmbemba // Feb 5, 2016 at 2:58 PM

    Mbemba out for a month.

    Ok thats it I’ll get my coat. Nice knowing you lads! See you in the championship next year!

  • 154 JDdubai // Feb 5, 2016 at 2:59 PM


    Where is your knowledge of who calls the shots coming from?

    Carr is chief scout not Dir of Football. I havent heard any clubs chief scout talking to the press, nor should they. He also clearly doesnt work from home and i dont think he should be around the training ground except maybe once every month or 2 as he should be out and about scouting.

  • 155 JDdubai // Feb 5, 2016 at 3:02 PM

    All set for Hollywood Taylor to come in and save the day for the next month, cant believe WBA wont play Berahino against Saylor and Colo- imagine the footrace for any ball over the top..

  • 156 hibbitt // Feb 5, 2016 at 3:03 PM

    which other club do you know that has the chief scout on the board ????

  • 157 Williamson is Bramble in disguise // Feb 5, 2016 at 3:06 PM

    Brklyngeordie – Pellegrini would be my perfect situation, get Nigel pearce or Sherwood or someone in til the end of the season to put a boot up there ass then pay the bucks to get Pellegrini in… Or offer mourinho whatever it takes either temporarily or permanently!

    Please Mr Ashley just get rid of the incompetent McClaren and get someone in asap, and ffs not Moyes or bloody Rodgers fed up of hearing those names get someone who’ll bring something new to the table..

    Out of all the managers that have previously managed in the premiership Pellegrini Mourinho and KK are the only ones I’d want on a permanent basis…

  • 158 magscar // Feb 5, 2016 at 3:11 PM


    I presume Posada’s take ( as in fact mine) comes from this type of article ( not only one to my recollection)

    in which references to his De Facto role have appeared.

    Who is the Director of football voice on football matters at club otherwise – Moncur?

    I don’t for one minute believe it is Charnley or Ashley – McClaren’s elevation to the board suggest he now has an input.

    I have asked on here a number of times for any poster to name other chief scouts – here or at any other club with as high a profile or influence as Carr seems to enjoy. Still waiting despite availability of Google to jar memories.

    I personally can’t name or recall any of our previous Chief Scouts over my more than 40 years of support but that might just be my age 🙂

  • 159 Williamson is Bramble in disguise // Feb 5, 2016 at 3:12 PM

    All this talk of ambition yet we employ a multiple failure as manager and spend well over the odds on a load of overrated midfielder… If we really had any ambition the first signing should have been a top class manager, followed by sorting out the right positions with the right players.

    Think we might be safe on Moyes though, he’s failed miserably in his last 2 jobs if he comes in and we get relegated his career would be pretty much down the pan..

  • 160 AncientC // Feb 5, 2016 at 3:18 PM

    Moncur is on the board too, how much power at the club do you believe he has? The board has been constructed to compartmentalise the blame away from the real command structure.

  • 161 AncientC // Feb 5, 2016 at 3:20 PM

    magscar – Are you really citing a chronicle article in regards to the power roles at the club.

    This is a club that had Remi Garde gagged, and he merely made the application process.

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