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McClaren Explains What Went Wrong – Says There Are 12 Cup Finals Left

8:55 pm, Saturday, February 13th, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 170 Comments

Newcastle turned in one of their most pathetic performances of the season tonight at Stamford Bridge and this with only  12 games left in the season to save ourselves.

And Steve McClaren is saying the same thing he said when we had just 3 points from the first 8 games – we need to become more consistent.

So when is that going to happen?

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Andros Townsend and Jonjo Shelvey
Now look at the mess we’re in

This is what Steve McClaren said after the game – and you have to believe his words were directed at Mike Ashley – the owner:

“You get one or two of these games a season. I’ve told the players don’t let that derail us. It was damage limitation by half-time. I just wanted to make sure we scored a goal and stayed in the game.”

“We have 18 days now – three or four players should return from injury and we can work on others in terms of fitness, and getting some defenders back in.”

“We are getting a consistency at home but we need to pick up some points away from home. There are 12 cup finals to come. We’ve got to stay calm and stable.”

I remember John Carver last season talking about so many cup finals to go –  and he managed to lose eight games straight.

And this was a cup final too – and we didn’t do too good in this one.

The problem Steve has to confront is that this – along with the Everton game – were two of the worst performances this season – we were a complete shambles in both games – more so in this game – when it was so very important.

It’s not about getting consistency away from home – it’s about not being a complete shambles away from home.

We have lost three away games 6-1, 5-1 and 5-1 this season – no wonder our goal difference is now the worst in the Premier League and we have also conceded a massive 49 goals in 26 league games.

In the previous three seasons we conceded 190 goals – so it’s a pity we didn’t spend more money on bringing in some defensive players this season.

It’s simply not good enough and we are now likely to be relegated this season – we are not just losing away games – we are being hammered.

On the other hand Guus Hiddink was delighted with Chelsea’s performance and it’s not too surprising they threw the kitchen sink at us in the early stages.

That’s because they know – as other teams will know in future road games – that we usually just crumble under pressure on the road.

Guus was right.

This is what the Dutchman said after the game in what was his first home win:

“We can be pleased with the performance of the guys. We tried to surprise them in the beginning. Happily it worked out.

“It’s important for the way we played, not just in attack. The players also have to do defensive work and that is where we are aiming and then the quality comes out.”

This was a complete humiliation for Newcastle United – just in case I didn’t make myself clear.

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170 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Mag52 // Feb 13, 2016 at 8:59 PM

    If we do go for another manager, as a final throw of the dice, it would have to be Pearson, with Clement as second choice.

  • 2 manxpie // Feb 13, 2016 at 8:59 PM

    manxpie // Feb 13, 2016 at 8:57 PM

    ofcourse they’ve got something to lose a relegation on there CV

    look at moyes for instance an absolute god when he was at everton and now a nobody even though his record isn’t as bad at man u minus spending an extra £250,000 mill as gaal has

  • 3 JackButler // Feb 13, 2016 at 9:00 PM

    If nothing else this season has to highlight the need to sack Charnley and Carr, no matter what happens this season there needs to be a complete overhaul at the top as we are not even capable of spending our way out of trouble anymore

  • 4 The Newcastle Armchair // Feb 13, 2016 at 9:01 PM

    Can we hurry up and win one of these cup finals, the club might finally hire a cabinet cleaner

  • 5 JackButler // Feb 13, 2016 at 9:02 PM


    They have nothing to lose as we are expected to go down, relegation would come because of what has already happened at the club, so they’d have a free run and neither of them have suitors lining up to employ them do they

  • 6 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 13, 2016 at 9:02 PM

    Sky said Newcastle were off to a Sunny camp
    I think a Sunni camp would be preferable, might show them how to fight!

  • 7 manxpie // Feb 13, 2016 at 9:03 PM

    i’m surprised villa havent picked up pearson
    but i really feel that is the only manager that would come clement is definatley not the answer he has just been sacked for not turning round a poor run aswell as playing bad football with the most expensive championship club
    no thanks

  • 8 21st Century Schizoid Man // Feb 13, 2016 at 9:05 PM


    “do norwich swansea palace b/mouth sunderland west brom have better they dont”

    That’s as maybe – but as long as only two of them play as bad as we are, we’ll go down.
    Nor does Leicester on paper – but its about performance on the pitch, playing with grit and determination and giving your all. Form can override quality.

    But our defence is deffo the worst.. and it’ll be their mistakes that decide it.

  • 9 JAMSHA // Feb 13, 2016 at 9:06 PM

    townsend needs to play on the RW his lookd very good there,, drop sissoko,, play aarons on L wing colback as LB

  • 10 JAMSHA // Feb 13, 2016 at 9:07 PM

    cant fault mitro, he needs a stroker beside him, play doumbia an mitro togather

  • 11 manxpie // Feb 13, 2016 at 9:07 PM

    jack no one wants a relegation on there CV no matter what
    and just think of all the oppertunities that arise early on in the season they can afford to wait
    and ashley wouldn’t pay for them anyways lol
    we have under ashley payed one of the worst managers wages

  • 12 sirjasontoon // Feb 13, 2016 at 9:08 PM

    STFU McCalaren you Bell End.

  • 13 sirjasontoon // Feb 13, 2016 at 9:09 PM

    manxpie I am a recruitment consultant – his CV upon application would be binned.

  • 14 manxpie // Feb 13, 2016 at 9:10 PM

    just watching valencia jesus there defense is worse than ours no wonder gary has got a job on his hands

  • 15 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 13, 2016 at 9:11 PM

    You can’t name good defenders or goalscorers in our good squad I take it? I’m waiting.

    Tell me what I said about Mitro. I never said he was a good goalscorer. I’ve never seen a good squad with no goalscorers and a poor defence. Have you?

  • 16 manxpie // Feb 13, 2016 at 9:12 PM

    sir who’s?

  • 17 sirjasontoon // Feb 13, 2016 at 9:13 PM

    Big pay out for a director as well – Kerching 🙂

  • 18 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Feb 13, 2016 at 9:17 PM

    where the hell did we get him from – e-bay.
    got the first touch of an elephant.
    mind you the rest were crap to.
    When are the TOON going to give away performance for the travelling fans who have spent hundreds following the TOON and are served up shit.

  • 19 reilly // Feb 13, 2016 at 9:19 PM

    blackley il make this plain and simple so you get it.
    i have no interest in talking to you,i have seen over time what type of poster you are.
    im a grown man that has no time for internet gobshite fools.

  • 20 manxpie // Feb 13, 2016 at 9:19 PM

    nevilles starting to look like a little hitler lol

  • 21 banjax // Feb 13, 2016 at 9:20 PM

    Mclaren was a failure at Derby and was sacked after a string of lost matches. How much more time and money is Ashley going to give him before he relegates Newcastle United ?

  • 22 benjohnsen // Feb 13, 2016 at 9:22 PM

    Just watched the video of Cisse’s goal spree spring 2012. Not a bad team at all.

    Simpson – Williamson – Coloccini – Santon
    Cabaye – Tiote – Gutierrez
    Ben Arfa – Cisse – Ba

  • 23 Lanzatoon42 // Feb 13, 2016 at 9:26 PM


  • 24 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 13, 2016 at 9:27 PM

    I thought you wouldn’t be able to answer that. And I thought you would want to avoid me on the blog because you appear to be extremely limited. That’s fine. But if you keep calling me clueless, I’ll keep posing to you the questions that you can’t answer. That’s why your bitter in the first place.

  • 25 manxpie // Feb 13, 2016 at 9:28 PM

    anyone who says sack mcclaren at least in the same post give your replacement lol

    ffs we were here a year ago and we got carver!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 26 Belfast // Feb 13, 2016 at 9:35 PM

    Sack McClaren!

    I hear Roy Race is available and very interested.

  • 27 stuart no9 // Feb 13, 2016 at 9:36 PM

    charlie—– thats where our problem lies ,.. ” the fans were brilliant today” its time we wernt , ,, as for the rest of the season? the only good that will come out of it now is that it is going to cost ash the cash £400M in tv rights , and his adverising campaign for SD . So its not all bad news.

  • 28 manxpie // Feb 13, 2016 at 9:37 PM

    there ya go as easy as that good choice belfast player manager i suppose?

  • 29 reilly // Feb 13, 2016 at 9:37 PM

    thats it im done,carnt be doing with a no mark.
    have fun everyone i enjoyed my time on here.

  • 30 Belfast // Feb 13, 2016 at 9:37 PM

    Guaranteed to stay up with Roy Race.

  • 31 toon kk // Feb 13, 2016 at 9:39 PM

    We deserve to be relegated, we’ve had several transfer windows to strengthen a shoddy pathetic defence and chose not too, we need goals and are playing without a prolific striker.
    Our players have a poor loosing lazy attitude, wtf goes on in training?

    But tbh I expected we’d be ripped apart, our work ethic is shocking and has been for a long time.

  • 32 Belfast // Feb 13, 2016 at 9:39 PM

    I think Roy Races playing days are behind him Manxpie. So just manager unless there’s an injury crisis.

  • 33 manxpie // Feb 13, 2016 at 9:43 PM

    nick jarvis is another option i mean if he can deal with his bird being blown up by chinese spies he could deal with nufc!

  • 34 jimiley // Feb 13, 2016 at 9:44 PM

    Mr Tuftys TV interview after the games was a sackable offence in its own right.
    Smiling away, he basically said that everything would be Oknand that Chelsea are a top team and too good for us. He would get a reaction for the next 12 games and everything would be grand in la la land. Instead of being shocked, he was very upbeat. Incredible stuff from tufty.

  • 35 toon kk // Feb 13, 2016 at 9:47 PM

    Aarons looked totally lost, nervous and out of his league today. Mind the only players who worked hard was Townsend, and Mitrovic, the rest looked like a bunch of clueless amateurs.

  • 36 Belfast // Feb 13, 2016 at 9:49 PM

    Aye if you where at a party Jimiley and McClaren was quite drunk you would definitely shave that patch of grass on his forehead.

  • 37 manxpie // Feb 13, 2016 at 9:49 PM

    jimiley nah he wasn’t he said where the problems were and wat we all know and that the next few weeks are great as we will get much needed players back
    wat do you expect him to say? “yeah thats it for us we’re down!”
    come on he pointed out all we said and that there is still hope

  • 38 Blofal // Feb 13, 2016 at 9:49 PM

    McClaren has to go.

    Any new manager needs the last 12 games. If they don’t do it now it will be too late.

  • 39 Belfast // Feb 13, 2016 at 9:49 PM

    With a bic razor.

  • 40 manxpie // Feb 13, 2016 at 9:53 PM

    shut up belfast you baldist or tuftest either or your still somethingist!

  • 41 No Defence // Feb 13, 2016 at 9:54 PM

    I thought Taylor was shocking, he should be no where near the first team, for a premiership centre back to trip him self up in the box just makes him look like a clown. I personally thought Steve Mac was the person who could take us up the league, but his tactics leaves a lot to be decided, but who would Big Mike bring in he has only gone down the English route, so that leaves us with Glenn hod or Arry. No thanks I would love to have Raffa here.

  • 42 manxpie // Feb 13, 2016 at 9:55 PM

    blofal well who then!!!!!??
    ya can’t just say sack him
    and so and so needs 12 games!
    who’s so and so?

  • 43 The next Mike Williamson // Feb 13, 2016 at 9:56 PM

    We’ll have to employ yet another desperate manager, and one who will be satisfied to manager in the championship. Pearson would come, but he plays negative football, similar to Moyes so he’d be hounded out as soon as he lost a few games. Sherwood is another that would come and he’d play attacking football at least. Laundrup would be a possibility, but I doubt he’d come right now. Then there are the likes of Poyet, Redknapp. In short, we’re unlikely to get anyone decent, but all those would be an improvement on Wally.

  • 44 toon kk // Feb 13, 2016 at 9:56 PM

    That’s some of the worst football I’ve had the sad opportunity to watch for a long time.
    We’ll come to think we probably are capable of the worst football, not just in the premier league but in every league in England.
    Disgrace. .

  • 45 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 13, 2016 at 9:57 PM

    Rafa Benitez

    Get him in

  • 46 lochinvar // Feb 13, 2016 at 9:57 PM

    Get Mourinhio in to the end of the season and then go from there . He speaks Spanish so can order the drinks in Malaga .
    Charnley and Carr should be left over there to help out Neville.
    If we stay up its the mother of all betting scams.
    Elephant in the room – there’s a whole hred of them !

  • 47 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 13, 2016 at 9:58 PM

    Reilly @29
    That’s like one of brother Troy’s hissy fits that you and I find so funny.

    Correct me where I’m wrong. You said we have a good squad. I laughed and said a good squad would have good defenders and goalscorers. We haven’t.

    You called me clueless. So I asked you to name our good defenders and goalscorers. So then you called me an internet gobshite and left the blog in a huff.

    Is that a fair summary of what has just happened?

  • 48 stuart no9 // Feb 13, 2016 at 9:59 PM

    wow — the guardian not holding back on this scathing assault on todays game,

  • 49 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 13, 2016 at 9:59 PM

    Dolly Parton would do a better job than Steve McClaren

    At least she likes two upftont 🙂

  • 50 welshgeordie9 // Feb 13, 2016 at 9:59 PM

    Bring back pardew, shouldn’t have gone in the first place.

  • 51 manxpie // Feb 13, 2016 at 10:02 PM

    well if you think about it even in pardews time when have we ever had our top 1st eleven out on the pitch more than twice in a row it can’t be often
    i know most teams have injuries but our second team is shocking and has never been good enough
    we finally spend money and ashley seems of the hook unbelievable

  • 52 Blofal // Feb 13, 2016 at 10:02 PM


    McClaren isn’t working. You can’t expect to keep doing exactly the same thing and get a different result. That’s the definition of madness. We need a change. I don’t care who!

    Pearson, Clement, Rodgers, Moyes… I don’t care. But we need to try something different!!!

  • 53 lesh // Feb 13, 2016 at 10:03 PM

    McClaren reckons you get one or two games a season like todays. Has he been asleep for the other disasters?

    And, Ed reckons there’ll be no knee-jerk reaction from Charnley. Why? Because he’s in the firing line himself for both appointing McClaren and not sacking him before Christmas.

    It must never have occurrd to the clown that short of bringing in Jesus Christ, I can’t see anyone who can perform the miracles to avoid relegation.

    I just hope that Ashley has the balls to man up and sack the clowns that’ve put the Club in this position.

    Ashley’s ownership has been nothing short of disastrous!

  • 54 toon kk // Feb 13, 2016 at 10:03 PM

    Close our club down; no one can say that they missed the football? Would they?

    Tbh something has to be done, Macca needs to go, but with no quality defender’s it won’t be possible for any manager to save us.

  • 55 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 13, 2016 at 10:03 PM

    No defence
    Taylor’s legs and brain showed quite a few signs of disconnect today. To be fair, it was only his second game after ages out. It’s a pity such a poor show won’t reduce the size of his head.

  • 56 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 13, 2016 at 10:03 PM

    give over man

    What about gary monk?

  • 57 Lilongwe Geordie // Feb 13, 2016 at 10:04 PM

    Another poor away performance. A lot of it fairly predictable. The first three goals were all our own fault. Terrible errors from players who should know better or who shouldn’t be in that role.

    Doumbia looks like what he is, a player who hasn’t kicked a ball competitively since November. Too many players didn’t turn up, Sissoko didn’t even put in his buy me tv performance.

    18 days till the next match, change manager? Maybe, but they need to be strong enough to drop some of the alleged top stars. Rioters was poor today, it was embarrassing watching him and Janmaat track(?) Willian for the third.

    Results didn’t go our way, but did we expect anything today? Far more crucial games coming up, whether Macca is the man to take charge of them,I guess Ashley will take his chances.

    Paul Clement anyone? Lost as many as Macca won in 2015 (not quite, but embarrassingly close) Gary White?

  • 58 manxpie // Feb 13, 2016 at 10:06 PM

    benitez and mouriniho! the 2 most expensive managers around like!!!
    not being funny but are you all really new newcastle supporters!!
    there is actually more chance of roy race and nick jarvice as a double team

  • 59 NoahJ // Feb 13, 2016 at 10:06 PM

    I also vote for gary monk

  • 60 welshgeordie9 // Feb 13, 2016 at 10:07 PM

    Monk wasn’t the right person.

  • 61 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 13, 2016 at 10:07 PM

    The players showed no commitment. Makro grins. He doesn’t get it. It was another embarrassing performance in a long line of embarrassing performances.

  • 62 Lilongwe Geordie // Feb 13, 2016 at 10:07 PM

    Taylor was poor, but there wasn’t a defender who impressed tonight.

    To top it off I had to watch it in Brixton with a group of Chelsea fans…… They didn’t even take the piss, it was that embarrassing

  • 63 manxpie // Feb 13, 2016 at 10:08 PM

    i mean seriously we are talking about the lowest payed managers in the league right now!!!!!

  • 64 NoahJ // Feb 13, 2016 at 10:08 PM

    also, since m’bemba got injured against everton, we have looked completely frail at the back (even against west brom); he is such an important player and we need him back fit asap.

  • 65 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 13, 2016 at 10:09 PM


    No I mean Monk to take over here

  • 66 Lilongwe Geordie // Feb 13, 2016 at 10:10 PM

    Yup grinning and in denial. “One or two of these games a season”, we have had far more than that.

    I worry where Ashley would go next though….

  • 67 NoahJ // Feb 13, 2016 at 10:11 PM


    I think Monk is cleverer than people give him credit for (he is not so recently retired player, so he knows how the game works and what players are thinking). He also moved mountains with swansea last season.

    Let’s face it, he’s the best that we could probably attract at the moment.

    I’m definitely not for rodgers, moyes or pearson; and won’t even justify answers for mourinho, benitez, blanc etc

  • 68 toon22 // Feb 13, 2016 at 10:11 PM

    If SMC isnt gone before the next match we are going down.
    If the fat man cant see it im happy he is going to lose a pile o cash.

  • 69 SuperShearer // Feb 13, 2016 at 10:13 PM

    IDKs on twitter claiming that McC been called in for a meeting tomorrow. They go onto say “He’s basically gone” – don’t shoot the messenger just repeating what is being said in case it’s of interest.

  • 70 No Defence // Feb 13, 2016 at 10:13 PM

    Yea he talks a good game but that’s about it. Did you see Townsend shaking his head, he must of been thinking what the hell have I done.

  • 71 manxpie // Feb 13, 2016 at 10:14 PM

    blofal thats your answer anybody!!??
    ridiculous like, i’d rather mcclaren as we have a chance at home than your stance of anybody
    and that is my point
    ashley gets away with it again and a new manager gets 6 months lol and then on to the next!

  • 72 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 13, 2016 at 10:16 PM

    Ashley has to get rid of Charnley. He needs a proven professional in that role. That person will stop Carr ruining the club and will appoint one of the best upcoming managers. Now.

  • 73 toon kk // Feb 13, 2016 at 10:16 PM

    Everyone knows or should know Macca’s going no where.
    If on the outside chance he walked, don’t expect a good replacement, we all know how the club is run ffs.

  • 74 welshgeordie9 // Feb 13, 2016 at 10:17 PM

    If mcclaren leaves, who the hell would want to takeover the last remaining games of the season, they did that with shearer and look what happened to that.

  • 75 Lilongwe Geordie // Feb 13, 2016 at 10:18 PM

    Yeah. The sad thing is Charnley is probably the most qualified to be on our board….. A scout, a coach and a meet and greet guy should not be on the board.

  • 76 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Feb 13, 2016 at 10:19 PM

    we’ve twelve cup finals left – for F8••k’s sake we can’t get past the third round so what bloody chance do we have.
    As for directors owners the fans know the problem – WE HAVE LEAKED 200 PLUS GOALS IN LESS THAN FOUR SEASONS
    Seen more muscle on Twiggy!!!

  • 77 welshgeordie9 // Feb 13, 2016 at 10:19 PM

    Early days yet but Shelvey and Townsend look good signings.

  • 78 Blofal // Feb 13, 2016 at 10:20 PM

    manxpie it’s very optimistic of you to assume that we can keep McClaren and get different results.

    Lets face it… we have been quite consistent all season. And if you think that form is enough to keep us up then it’s a gamble.

    Most teams bounce when a new manager comes in. We need a bounce. hoping we win our remaining home games under McClaren is not a proactive approach to staying in the league.

  • 79 No Defence // Feb 13, 2016 at 10:20 PM

    That reply was for B and B sorry trying to get used to this blog.

  • 80 Blofal // Feb 13, 2016 at 10:22 PM

    And Ashley doesn’t get away with it… it is his fault. 100%. But blaming Ashley isn’t going to get us better results for the rest of the season!

  • 81 Lilongwe Geordie // Feb 13, 2016 at 10:23 PM

    We needed a dominant midfielder. I said it during the window though that we were getting second and third choices because we weren’t in a position to get the top of the list.

  • 82 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 13, 2016 at 10:24 PM

    Shelvey has been pathetic in every away game. Saivet has been tried and dropped. Doumbia isn’t in favour. Only Townsend has been steady. And clueless Blackas, in a small minority, was calling it a poor window while others were rubbing their thighs in sweet satisfaction.

  • 83 manxpie // Feb 13, 2016 at 10:26 PM

    blofal most teams that bounce have either goal scorers or a defence preferably both
    look at villa they have niether either and they had no bounce
    its my main reason why there shouldn’t be a change plus the fact ashley’s previous!
    we even have people who want a manager that doesn’t speak english lol

  • 84 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Feb 13, 2016 at 10:28 PM

    Yes we have needed a dominant midfielder but he ain’t know good if you cannot defend…
    Man City
    Everton and
    Crystal Palace
    have all had there biggest or equal biggest wins against the Toon
    that is 25 goals against and 3 for

  • 85 No Defence // Feb 13, 2016 at 10:29 PM

    Super S
    I hope it’s too get shot of Steve Mcc, but If not I hope Big Mike has said no way are you going to Spain you have to stay here and train in the cold, you don’t deserve anything else.

  • 86 manxpie // Feb 13, 2016 at 10:31 PM

    wat do ya mean he doesn’t get away with it?
    have a look at how long the pardew out campaign went on and then look at the ashleyout site its actually highly embarressing
    with people actually paying there hard earned money in getting the manager out but not in getting the actual reason out and it just goes on and on

  • 87 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 13, 2016 at 10:31 PM

    We started off pathetic gifting Chelsea three goals and then got out the white flag after 16 minutes of the first of 13 cup finals. Makro grins and stays relaxed.

  • 88 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Feb 13, 2016 at 10:35 PM

    blackie boy
    that’s our biggest problem go behind the towel is thrown in – midfield disappear time after time – SISSOKO, WILJANUM, waste of space playing away from home

  • 89 manxpie // Feb 13, 2016 at 10:35 PM

    “if pardews gone we have won and there needs to be change”

    yeah that worked didn’t it!

  • 90 Lilongwe Geordie // Feb 13, 2016 at 10:39 PM

    The entire team needs to work and press. Yeah, we need to upgrade defenders, but at the minute, Janmaat is the poorest of the bunch. We have too many midfielders who disappear away from home. Puts our defence under pressure, even when we should have been in control.

    Tonight and Everton were pretty worrying…. Still don’t think we will go down, but I don’t think that is an endorsement of MacFarlane.

  • 91 welshgeordie9 // Feb 13, 2016 at 10:42 PM


    I’m talking about overall, besides no player plays well every game.

  • 92 welshgeordie9 // Feb 13, 2016 at 10:45 PM


    Totally agree, they thought by getting rid of Pardew that they would bring in a better manager, that’s what you get when fans wanted him out.

  • 93 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 13, 2016 at 10:48 PM

    Sunderland have a goalscorer in Defoe. They appear to have strengthened their defence too. I can easily see us getting relegated before the season’s finished. Some of those so called cup finals might well be Championship trials.

  • 94 21st Century Schizoid Man // Feb 13, 2016 at 10:52 PM

    There’s a lot of wild stuff on here tonight.
    IMO all the recent signings were decent choices.
    We needed a Shelvey type and a Townsend type.
    Doumbia can’t show what he can do when he is isolated up front with zero service – nor could Mitro.

    The most massive failure wasn’t the last window but has been bleedin’ obvious since 2012. Our defence has needed 2 CBs and 2FBs – especially a quality LB, but we still need 2 speedy CBs, good in the air. We’ve got two good guys with Mbemba and Janmatt, both of whom will be fine in a reconstructed defence, but the rest are makeweights. It is obvious to everyone except Carr.
    The deficiencies of today’s CBs – Colo Noshow and the walking wounded have shown time and time again that they are really not up to it and haven’t been for years. OK so they put on a show every so often, but their record over four years is dismal.

  • 95 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 13, 2016 at 10:57 PM

    Makro: “We caused our own problems by not being able to deal with the ball.” Hahahaha. Think about that analysis.

  • 96 Hail Wor Ashley // Feb 13, 2016 at 11:02 PM

    Schtve the dweeb – OOT!
    Mister Tuff the arse gazer – OOT!
    His alter-ego JfA – OOT!

  • 97 Tsunki // Feb 13, 2016 at 11:04 PM

    I think the best thing that can be done now is to apply sticking plasters to the broken leg. Let’s rearrange the team of misshapen individuals or maybe get another cheap coach with a point to prove or how about another scout who isn’t mentally deluded due to advancing decrepitude or no hang on wait another pencil monitor who can spot the difference between a bargain and good investment…. but whatever we do, let’s not put pressure on the club saviour, after all he delivered on his promises, isn’t that so, Mike? He did a video, you know.

  • 98 Tsunki // Feb 13, 2016 at 11:06 PM

    Hail Wor Ashley the Anti – blogger Ashley apologist – Out! 🙂

  • 99 No Defence // Feb 13, 2016 at 11:07 PM

    Imo Newcastle were Shite scared of Cheslea today, they just thought or they are better than us. Imo absolutely no man manager skills what so ever, Nowt like most other clubs. He (Steve Mc) has to go imho.

  • 100 manxpie // Feb 13, 2016 at 11:08 PM

    tsunki nah man
    SACK THE MANAGER!!!!!!!!!!
    the next one will do for 6 months and then repeat
    thats the best way and in that time spend your money getting that manager out in banners and tee-shirts haha!!

  • 101 sparky55 // Feb 13, 2016 at 11:08 PM

    There were too many players had given up after only 20 mins out there today.

    I’ve said this a million times before but when you let in average of more than 2 goals a game then you need to score at least three to win a game.

    We don’t have 3 goals a game in our team…we might now and again but not every week…so using this very simple logic we have to be relegation fodder for sure.

    We obviously have a manager who has no idea how to coach a defensive unit and a management team who didn’t identify the urgent need for better defenders 18 months ago.

    pathetic club management and we’ll get what we deserve next year…championship football

  • 102 Tsunki // Feb 13, 2016 at 11:09 PM

    Just adding to the feeding frenzy ha ha

  • 103 manxpie // Feb 13, 2016 at 11:10 PM

    no defence for who??

    come on ed have a bit at the bottom of articles whoever says macca out at least say your alternative!!

  • 104 Tsunki // Feb 13, 2016 at 11:12 PM

    We have a team assembled with money and no clue as to how it will stitch together hence no identity, no camaraderie, no cohesion or even identity. It is currently a collection of individual wage-drawers with no focus. Maybe Steve can fix it. But it doesn’t matter. While we tolerate the owners indifference it will continue as such.

  • 105 Tsunki // Feb 13, 2016 at 11:12 PM

    George Burley next.

  • 106 manxpie // Feb 13, 2016 at 11:14 PM

    tsunki its ridiculous how can people who were so against pardew and at the time said a new manager would change things a year down the line say the same without any blame for ashley AGAIN!!!

  • 107 terencelim // Feb 13, 2016 at 11:15 PM

    Who hired Steve eh?

  • 108 Tsunki // Feb 13, 2016 at 11:16 PM

    Taylor was poor but not because he’s crap. Because he is just back from injury, scared of getting another, woefully not up to speed, older, unfamiliar with the back line he has found himself in.

    OK he’s crap.

  • 109 Tsunki // Feb 13, 2016 at 11:18 PM

    And if I ever entertained any glimmer of an idea that some kind of serious comeback was on the cards today, the lid on it’s coming was nailed down firmly by the appearance of colback.

  • 110 Tsunki // Feb 13, 2016 at 11:18 PM

    Lid on it’s coffin.

  • 111 lochinvar // Feb 13, 2016 at 11:19 PM

    Why do we call him Macca – as if he’s some jovial Scouse cousin to be pally with ?
    This is serious shit and in any other dimension something would be done about the dross that Ashley has allowed to be served up . It makes the Club, the fans, the City look tarnished and nothing changes.
    You wouldn’t let Charnley or Carr run a picnic and Ashley is beginning to make Howard Hughes look well known.
    Beam me up Scotty – another plant would do.

  • 112 MassiveG // Feb 13, 2016 at 11:20 PM

    Shreveport said “we had to play Aarons at left back”? Surely if Colback is only fit enough for the bench this might have been possible:
    Saylor- Colo-Lascelles-Janmaat?
    Taylor used to play right back for us and rampage down the right. Janmaat surely good enough to adapt for a game or two. (Right foot wasn’t a problem for Santon)

  • 113 MassiveG // Feb 13, 2016 at 11:21 PM


  • 114 Tsunki // Feb 13, 2016 at 11:23 PM

    Manxpie, the love for Ashley is blind. The saviour of NUFC who doesn’t need to explain his bridling of club finances cannot possibly be held accountable for his disastrous hierarchy that meets out his unwavering ‘ hold the ship to the straight course’ policy. There is nothing that can be done to sway such a powerful despot from his unwavering remit. Apparently.

  • 115 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 13, 2016 at 11:28 PM

    Shearer blasts NUFC for the same reasons. He keeps having to point out what’s wrong, and highlighting to the nation how embarrassing and pathetic it is. Have the manager and players no shame?

    Makro simply keeps talking about dustung ourselves off. WTF is he doing on the training pitch? Running around with a duster?

  • 116 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 13, 2016 at 11:32 PM

    The buck stops at Ashley’s door. He’s appointed the muppets who’ve appointed the clowns. He’s the only one in a position to sort it out.

  • 117 toonking // Feb 13, 2016 at 11:32 PM

    missed todays game but can tell from the posts it wasn’t really worth watching.


    We’re into the second half of the season now, pardew had some long without defeat but they occurred during the first half of the season his second half of a season is a poor one.

    He’d probably consider making a greater effort into making the full team work together and defend as a team but it’s crap boring football and as far as pardew out brigade are concerned we’re playing better now than we were during pardew’s time ask catchy.

  • 118 manxpie // Feb 13, 2016 at 11:35 PM

    well a pardew out that people spent there own money on and chants around the stadium atthe person that really didn’t actually deserve it got it and so did the media
    but just changing the name is the option surely i.e ashley out!!!
    but no again it is manager out i despair!!

  • 119 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 13, 2016 at 11:36 PM

    The least goals scored on their travels by any team in all four divisions. Hands up all those who told clueless Blackas not to be so daft because Mitro and Perez would get the goals. Even at home we’re goal shy. And don’t start me off on Colo and Co.

  • 120 Our Toon // Feb 13, 2016 at 11:41 PM


    Is this same pardew who has lost 5 games in a row with 3 different clubs making him the only person in top flight football to do so.

    Money is now being spent but same mistakes about the person who manages the team.

    Away from home we don’t press and at home we do that’s the main difference

  • 121 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 13, 2016 at 11:43 PM

    So many people on the blog were delighted by Ashley’s transfer dealings in both windows. Many were optimistic about Makro and Costco. Most were looking at the top not the bottom. So if you hlame Ashley’s management and footballing nous, you have to look at yourself and everybody else who are great with the benefit of hindsight.

    Suppose the fans owned the club and cocked up in appointing managers, players and scouts. Do you demand they get out of the club?

  • 122 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 13, 2016 at 11:46 PM

    Fraser Forster. Six clean sheets in a row. So much for our talent spotters.

  • 123 manxpie // Feb 13, 2016 at 11:46 PM

    ourtoon no just circumstances and when people realise there is more to football than a manager then we will be in a better place

    are you sticking up for the way the club has been run over the years?

  • 124 Belfast // Feb 13, 2016 at 11:49 PM

    When I say Roy Race I mean Roy Race. I don’t want Russel Slade turning up with his baseball cap on Manxpie.

  • 125 manxpie // Feb 13, 2016 at 11:49 PM

    blackley no it was very little to late and there is plenty on here that say the same
    we made some good signings no doubt
    but also massive gambles problem is its took 7 years for ashley to realise!!

  • 126 toonking // Feb 13, 2016 at 11:53 PM

    Teams like leicester city, blackpool, wigan and QPR show how a game should really be played and which sort of players you really should have

    QPR- spend lots of cash on players last season but they just took them for granted rather than think more carefully, therefore the club itself gets relegated and players abandon the club looking for new teams to provide the decent wages

    Blackpool and Wigan- two teams who’s time in the premier league was a very exciting time, they provided the crowd a lot of attacking football kept pushing men forward and hoped to get goals. Entertaining passing football itself might look a great thing but it only works when you’ve got a great and well organised defence something neither of these teams had so when ever the opposition was on the counter they had lots of space and scored at most oppertunities meaning the 2 goals scored by opposition were not enough.

    leicester city- all this season the game has been based on a long ball fast paced counter attacking football game which is ancient in comparison to the barcalona style but this team doesn’t have the messi and nemar that can score at nearly every opportunity, the defence will be much more vulnerable if left alone to protect from counter attacks so rather than take a gamble and try a barca style game, they build a team where each an every player work together and help one another whether it be vardy getting himself back or robert huth kick starting the attack with a long ball into some space ready for marez and vardy to run forward and score.

    Long ball and defensive play by the full team can look and sound boring but sometimes you need to accept it at the end of the day results are most important not entertainment.

  • 127 toonluvva // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:04 AM

    I am going to put this out to seasoned NUFC followers.

    How many times over the last few years when we have been dumped out of the FA cup have we lost badly in the match prior to us going off for “winter training”?

  • 128 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:08 AM

    When you say plenty were saying the same, very few of us were saying these were poor windows. Plenty were pleased. Some were delighted. They were vonfident that we wouldn’t bevgighting relegation. They believed Ashley had bolted the horse to the cart. That’s the fans for you. So why blame Ashley to the extent that you want to kick him out?

    As I say, if the fans owned the club, purchased the same players, do you hound the fsns out the vlub when it sll goes tits up?

    What exactly were you saying about the summer and January windows?

  • 129 Toon Tang // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:12 AM

    I’ve had to hold myself back from watching any lowlights from the game. Was it the same old away performance then? Shite defending, Sisoko, Gini and shelvey go missing completely and just all-round bollocks tactics.

    Can I get a witness….

  • 130 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:15 AM

    Can anyone give me three good examples of where * fans have hounded an owner out of a top flight club
    *before any new purchaser was on the scene
    *it benefited the team and
    *the new owner was a big improvement?

    Manx? Tsunki?

  • 131 Graeme // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:15 AM

    Hey, as an advertising hoarding for SD, we are doing superbly well. Where’s the problem? Ashley is getting what he set us up to deliver – hell, he even gets free advertising on BBC ffs!!!!

  • 132 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:18 AM

    Toon Tang
    If you’ve seen us pathetic and embarrassing, you’ve seen today. A decent solo goal from Townsend though, it has to be said.

  • 133 Toon Tang // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:18 AM

    Westham did us a semi favour as well. Should never have got to 2-0 but cheers for pulling it back eh

  • 134 Toon Tang // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:19 AM

    Blackley. Nuff said eh hahaa

  • 135 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:20 AM

    It must be the most expensive “free” advertising the world has ever known.

  • 136 Toon Tang // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:24 AM

    Will try and catch the Townsend goal but thats all I can handle. Next 5 games are ultra critical, 4 of them are winnable and one we will get absolutely whiplashed in.

    I’ll let yous decide which one that is.

  • 137 Toon Tang // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:28 AM

    McClaren needs to start trying something different. Why set the lads up the same every away game when It hasn’t worked since the chuffing spurs game. And even then for the whole season before that.

    Don’t they say the very definition of a stupid bloody idiot bafoon is to keep doing the same thing repeatedly even though it has never worked?

  • 138 The overrated Frenchman // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:29 AM

    Two windows, £80 million spent, and the only reinforcement to a demonstrably inadequate defence has been an under-sized CB with no PL experience. The True Geordie makes a good point. Colo and Taylor were playing when we were relegated, and here they are still, older and slower and obviously not cutting it. Sack McClaren and install an interim manager (anybody) and hope for the best. At the end of the season clear out everybody on the board and start again, whatever league we are playing in.

  • 139 Toon Tang // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:30 AM

    Plus we’ve only scored 7 goals away from home is it. Used to score that in a couple of away games a few year back. take me back damn it. The future isn’t what I had envisaged.

  • 140 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:31 AM

    If Man Utd back in the day had conceded goals like NUFC have done this season … Schmeichel and Keane would’ve chewed their team mates heads off, then Ferguson would’ve put those heads on spikes. Our goalkeeper and captain carry on as if nothing has happened and our manager grins, saying we weren’t able to deal with the ball. You couldn’t make it up.

  • 141 Toon Tang // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:32 AM

    Frenchman, I just watched the latest instalment myself. All valid points that Im hoping McClazza will take on board after he’s watched it.

  • 142 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:33 AM

    Clear out the Board now. We’re heading down with this lot.

  • 143 Toon Tang // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:38 AM

    On a lighter note, it will be funny watching mertasacker trying to keep up with Vardy tomorrow.

    He’ll be having nightmares right about………………………….. now

  • 144 bettyswallocks // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:41 AM

    Blackley……….. There is only one thing Ashley can do now that might change our results enough to keep us up and that is to sack McClaren.
    My view is that a new manager isn’t going have much time to influence things and which manager capable of working miracles wants to put their reputation on the line at this late stage.
    I agree that we are lacking proven goal scorers and big strong fast capable defenders..
    There will have to be a serious evaluation of all employees come the summer if we do manage to survive and that will be Ashley’s call then.

  • 145 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:48 AM

    I have to repeat Makro: “We caused our own problems by not being able to deal with the ball.”

    I’ve never in my life heard an analysis like that. Unable to deal with the ball. The pesky ball. Always spoils the f******** game. We just need to deal with it. If we can deal with the ball, and sort it out, then we can perhaps beat Chelsea. But it’s hard when there’s a ball.

  • 146 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:50 AM

    Those b@stard plastic spheres.

  • 147 bettyswallocks // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:53 AM

    Sacking the board makes sense, possibly Mc Claren as well but sacking the board now won’t affect results.

  • 148 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:55 AM

    Has anyone noticed how difficult it is to deal with match balls? They keep ending up in the wrong net. Then that means the score changes, points are awarded and places change in tables. It would be so much easier if we could play the game without a ball. I’m surprised Jib never thought of that one. Brilliant Makro. Just brilliant.

  • 149 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:00 AM

    How about this Makro? We caused our own problems by not being able to play football because we’re shite at it. And because Aarons was at left back.

  • 150 Toon Tang // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:00 AM

    Hahaha bloody balls flying from all angles. Like a big ol’ Barrymore swim party.

  • 151 2 goals 1 cup // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:01 AM

    pls can somebody explain to me why sissoko never gets dropped why is perez not starting ahead of him every game. i liked sissoko when he first joined us he played like a beast and was a nightmare for the opposition now he just seams like he just want off end of the season

  • 152 Toon Tang // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:03 AM

    Love it when managers say “we’ve 12 cup finals left”

    Got news for ya SM lad, we havnt won a chuffin cup final since about 1862

  • 153 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:10 AM

    Toon Tang
    We won three cup finals in the 1950’s. But lads in the 50s were able to deal with the ball. But the balls were made of leather then and tied with laces. Now there all a bit too spherical and aren’t easy to deal with. They just spoilt it for our lads. Especially Aarons. Let’s blame Aarons. He doesn’t do balls. It’s not me the manager. It’s the fault of Aaron’s and the bloody modern balls.

  • 154 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:12 AM

    We’ve got so many good players coming back that I’m totally relaxed.

  • 155 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:18 AM

    What’s happened to old Blackas’ grammar tonight? “Your” for “you’re”. “There” for “they’re”. Old Blackas is just unable to deal with words. He needs to dust himself off and come back again with some words that he can deal with.

  • 156 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:19 AM

    Old Blackas” posts would be magnificent if it wasn’t for the words.

  • 157 ilovetoon8788 // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:35 AM

    The mackems are showing more fight and look more capable as a unit. They drew at Liverpool and beat manu. They will certainly survive. I can’t see them getting relegated. They might just maul us on the way too. Just so embarrassing and pathetic display today.

  • 158 The overrated Frenchman // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:40 AM

    I don’t think you can sack the board at this stage of the season, as richly as they deserve it. McClaren hasn’t been able to achieve any sort of consistent improvement of performance all season, which is a pretty good benchmark of failure I reckon. Why would he suddenly be able to turn it around at a minute to midnight? Roll the dice and replace him. I suppose that can be construed as trying to make your own luck, as some wise person once said.

  • 159 Sawbuck // Feb 14, 2016 at 4:28 AM

    We’re as good as down. You don’t take a beating like this at this stage and recover. Ashley may as well as release Mc now and think about the Championship next season.

    We never should’ve got shed of Hoots.

  • 160 chicousa // Feb 14, 2016 at 4:35 AM

    I have not called for McLaren’s sacking….until now. That performance was absolutely shameful. The team was disorganized, panicky, gutless and rudderless! We have a manager who could not lead his way out of a paper bag. My choice would be to bring in Nigel Pearson (with 18 days to go before the next match) to try to turn this thing around as he did with Leicester City. McLaren out!

  • 161 willowdalerez // Feb 14, 2016 at 5:06 AM

    Can’t see what a new manager can do for us with 12 games to go. Just have to hope the team gels and our defenders come from injury Aarons and Colback don’t cut it in that position.

    Don’t know what’s happening on these away games but we seem a whole different team at St James (not great but at least not relegation fodder) and I like Macca trying to play attacking football but this was downright embarrassing and maybe a new coach is the only way to go but not sure any we’d want would want to come in… Bad plight we are in and I’ve no more excuses for Macca.

    I gave him my support at the beginning of the season but we have no more judge me after 10 to spare we need a change… Is Moyes willing?

  • 162 chicousa // Feb 14, 2016 at 5:28 AM

    One thing is clear, McLaren cannot motivate this group of players. At the very least Pearson would instill some fire in the team! It is true that 12 games is not time enough, but it is all we have to avoid the drop. With McLaren at the helm the ship is “calmly” going down. The team cannot handle high pressure. We cannot defend. When should the blame fall on the coach if not after 2/3 of a season has passed and we are still in bottom three?

  • 163 nut meg // Feb 14, 2016 at 5:40 AM

    Lack of height and pace plus inexperience from Aarons at the back cost us dearly..The writing has been on the wall for a long time,not like they haven’t been warned….a self inflicted wound imo.

  • 164 ilovetoon8788 // Feb 14, 2016 at 6:32 AM

    @Sawbuck // Feb 14, 2016 at 4:28 AM

    completely agree. at this stage of the season, we cannot be getting humiliated.

    we are in huge trouble when you are in the relegation zone and you end up getting mauled. no way to recover from these losses.

    apparently Shelvey was furious and kept looking at the bench for instructions during the game. i wonder what they do in training?!

  • 165 magscar // Feb 14, 2016 at 6:33 AM

    Well having woken up early and caught up on Blog from yesterday evening I haven’t had a nightmare (though team did) and it was real.

    McLaren’s imbecilic grinning at start of post match interview seemed to have Sky’s man as absolutely perplexed and incredulous as I was.

    Any other side in Pl would be frantically searching for a manager after latest away debacle but who can do better in so few games and would want to come?

    There is no point changing unless there is such a candidate.

    The makeshift defence and woeful midfield gifted Chelsea a 3 goal start and it was evident that we aren’t capable of even damage limitation as every other PL side would have done (unless losing 2-1 in 2cnd half is a success)

    During the week I joined in discussions on Gini and Sissoko being dropped and thought not. However after another absolutely frustrating display from the pair McLaren has to acknowledge that either it isn’t possible to get a tune out of them away and drop them or accept it is him not them. Personally think may be a little of both.

    It is ironic that once we concede away you look to the players to potentially get you back in the game and most pundits would point to those 2 players as the ones to do just that – but they are the opposite!! Once behind they become liabilities.

    Townsend and Mitro were our only triers throughout with occasional good play from Janmaat and Shelvey. Why didn’t Colback start for an out of position Aaron if he was fit enough to be on bench and we wanted to keep it tight at start?

    If McClaren is to go I doubt Ashley will consider it wise to leave it to Charnley and Carr but who does he know in game to pick or to help him do so!


    I mentioned Husham because I am new to Kodi and that was the wizard that I stumbled on and got me going. May well be better out there as Reilly said and I am happy to bow to his experience in this area. If he is still around later some suggestions would be welcome but there is also the website he referred to earlier in week which I may have attributed to Average on a post yesterday – can’t be bothered to track back at this time of morning after my long catch up 🙂

  • 166 magscar // Feb 14, 2016 at 6:35 AM

    Sorry for long post at this time of morning but may not get back on today

  • 167 U.S Magpie // Feb 14, 2016 at 6:37 AM

    Please enough is enough, get this idiot out of the club and at least get someone in that will play players in there correct positions with a little more thinking about scoring goals and not so much with playing on the back foot every game. ” The best defense is a good offense”
    We don’t care if we let in a few goals as long as we score more than the opposition. Three points is still three points be it 1 – 0 / 5-4 / 10 – 9 score one more and we get the points. Easy really as simple as that.

  • 168 check the toastie // Feb 14, 2016 at 6:46 AM

    I think Benitez, Rodgers or Monk would give us a boost to stay up.

    First thing to happen with those appointments would be the axing of our useless captain, he is truly awful.

    Taylor will be injured by the next time we play,


    Sissoko and Tiote need dropping, same with Collocini, would have them three threw out of the club, don’t give a fcuk.

  • 169 check the toastie // Feb 14, 2016 at 6:51 AM

    think we will tat up mind, but would love some ambition shown by appointing Benitez or Rodgers.

    I actually really like Gary Monk, however the defence needs so much work we are always going to be trouble away from home.

    every cross collocini watches it come past him, why can’t he cut the ball out at the front post, he is such a shit defender its unreal.

  • 170 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Feb 14, 2016 at 7:21 AM

    Its Sunday Morning and McLaren is not sacked….

    F@ck me…..Ashley really is dumber than I thought he was. Wow.
    Its like betting on the worst odds possible and insisting on them.

    The script is complete, relegation just has to happen.
    One would think nobody is this thick in the head.

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