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McClaren Clings To Job After Another Complete Shambles

9:09 am, Sunday, February 14th, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 339 Comments

Steve McClaren has become very adept at explaining in some detail the reasons why Newcastle have lost a game – and that’s because he has lost over half the games in the league this season  – 14 of 26 and so he’s had a lot of practice at it.

That’s a 54% loss rate and with only six games won a 23% win rate – and at any other club he would have been fired by now.

We remember famously one of the times we were taken apart this season away from home  at Manchester City when Steve said we played very well except for the 20 minutes when we conceded 6 goals.

Yeah right.

And yesterday at Chelsea we were 3-0 down after only 17 minutes and we were wondering how many Chelsea would score before the break – maybe eight?

It was simply a shambolic display from a gutless Newcastle side and the players should be ashamed of their efforts yesterday – there were too many bottlers in black and white shirts yesterday at Stamford Bridge.

And McClaren is the head coach and he has to take the responsibility (call it blame if you like) for that display.

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Steve McClaren reacts to yet another defeat

McClaren was asked if he was embarrassed by Newcastle’s more than inept display yesterday – and he went into some detail – as follows:

“You are so focused on the game and thinking about the way we started and what to do at 3-0, you want to come out for the second half with a bit of pride.”

“During the game and at half-time all the anger, disappointment and frustration has already been expelled.” “Now, in the cold light of day we have to be calm and reflective.”

“We have to know that there are 12 games to go.” “I am not upbeat about this performance or result at all. I have to be upbeat about what I’ve got in the dressing room.”

“With 12 games to go they have to show they are capable of doing that.”  “The break is a good thing.”

“We said that before the game. We were over-exposed as well because it was Steven Taylor’s second game in seven months and Rolando Aarons is a winger playing at left-back.”

“So we have had defensive problems and injuries.”  “We hope that three or four will come back. It is a good 18-day period to get them back.”

“Players that we have signed and players coming in we need to get fitter.”  “It is a good opportunity to regroup and get organised.”

“It’s very simple, games can be won or lost in the first 20 minutes or the last 20 minutes.”  “This week we lost in the first 20 minutes and were 3-0 down.”

“The majority of goals were self-inflicted in terms of not dealing with the ball or their press. We knew they’d come out and do it.”

“Chelsea worked it perfectly and you could see they wanted to go for it and get the game won by half-time.”

“They did that and so it’s very difficult. It is hard to come back from 3-0 down.” “We have to say then, do we go for it or do we not?”

“I think at half-time we said we’d go for it in the first 10 or 15 minutes, which we did.”  “Then the fourth goal went in and really killed us. That’s what can happen when you come here.” 

“We can reflect on that and know that how we start games needs to be better away from home.”

We are not going to hold our breath that everything will be good at Stoke City in our next game.

We had 10 days to prepare for the Everton game and we were a disaster at Goodison and we had a full week to prepare for Chelsea and you have to wonder what the heck the players and coaching staff were up to last week?

The truth is Steve McClaren is taking Newcastle down and if there is not some decisive action taken in the next couple of days by Mike Ashley the distinct likelihood is Newcastle will become a Championship club next season.

And if Steve McClaren is still the manager don’t expect he’s capable in any way of bringing Newcastle straight back up like the great Chris Hughton did seven years ago.

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339 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Tsunki // Feb 14, 2016 at 9:11 AM

    Ashley Out!

  • 2 Tsunki // Feb 14, 2016 at 9:11 AM

    “Depths of Despair” McLaren photos for two weeks.

  • 3 Tsunki // Feb 14, 2016 at 9:16 AM

    Ron I think Charnley has been desperate to sack himself since last season but he hasn’t a plan B to replace himself. So he’s stuck with him for the moment. Unless he can do what he did when you-know-pards left.

  • 4 Tsunki // Feb 14, 2016 at 9:18 AM

    I’m expecting the picture of McLaren as a failed German general with a Luger jammed in his mouth.

  • 5 Tsunki // Feb 14, 2016 at 9:19 AM

    Oh I forgot, now the blog has had the domestos treatment there’s only seven of us.

  • 6 hibbitt // Feb 14, 2016 at 9:19 AM

    ED there’s not even a whisper of McLaren getting the sack

  • 7 reilly // Feb 14, 2016 at 9:20 AM

    we have the rest of the month off perfect time to sack mcclaren and bring in a new man that will give these players the kick up the arse they need.

  • 8 jane // Feb 14, 2016 at 9:20 AM

    remaining home matches:
    Man C (tba)

    next 3 are must wins

  • 9 Tsunki // Feb 14, 2016 at 9:23 AM

    Anyone fancy Mike’s six-game package for £150? it’s a bargain, innit?

    No, me neither.

  • 10 sparky55 // Feb 14, 2016 at 9:26 AM

    I said drop Colo and Gini and Sissoko, play Colbeck left back and Aarons left wing with townsend of the right and Lascelles replacing Colo

    It wouldn’t have changed the result yesterday because our midfield and defence as a unit were dreadful, but sissoko needs to understand his place in the team is not secure and his performances this year have been rubbish.

    The outcome of games will not change if we stick with the same team. Our weakness’ are there for all opposing managers to see and we’re too easy to play against…so we need to change the team and the way we play.

    Colo and Sissoko should never start another game for Newcastle.

    Townsend and Aarons need to be the wingers

    Due to p!iss poor management planning Colback has to unfortunately play LB…he’s done it before so is our only option.

    Gini needs to play in the hole at home and be a impact sub when we play away.

    Perez should play in the hole when we’re at home with Doumbia coming on as he gets fitter. He’s fast as fcuk and we need to utilise that.

    We’re basically fcuked because we cant defend and we struggle to score three goals a game to offset the two goals we’re guaranteed to let in.

    Whenever a new manager comes in they concentrate on shoring up the defence…WE DON’T HAVE A DEFENCE TO SHORE UP…it’s that bad all we can do is hope we start scoring a few more and that’s gonna mean we’ll get caught on the break right through til we go down before the season has even ended.

    it’s all bollox.

  • 11 Tsunki // Feb 14, 2016 at 9:31 AM

    To my knowledge I have never posted a team formation on this blog, not a serious one anyway, and the reason for that is that for years I have not been able to work out a satisfactory permutation out of the crocks and mismatched skills we have had. The buying and selling has been done on paper with little consideration for sporting necessity. This is what we have, a squad that is neither fish nor fowl. Some weeks they work, most they don’t. Can’t see it changing much under the incumbents.

  • 12 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Feb 14, 2016 at 9:33 AM

    If the players want to play for the manager and the club we will stay up BUT

    Do they have the respect of the manager?
    Do they want it to stay up?
    Do they have the guts, willpower, fight

    or do they not give a F••k about the club and move on.

    Me thinks they don’t have it in themselves to fight for NEWCASTLE UNITED

    Club gonna be in a right mess if we get relegated:
    How many players will stay?
    Me think: Dummett, Colback, Anita, Lascalles, Aarons, Elliot, Darlow, Taylor, Toney, and that’s about it
    NOT much to work on!!!

  • 13 NoahJ // Feb 14, 2016 at 9:33 AM

    The more i think about it, the more i want MONK in.

    He’s young, understands the game, can make the best out of a poor team, he’s available, he’s good with the media, he’s good with shelvey.

  • 14 Tsunki // Feb 14, 2016 at 9:36 AM

    Sissoko does not fit in any team we make. Janmaat needs to be in a better defence so what skills he does have will make him look international class again shelvey is a lost soul trying to find his place in our scheme. Townsend is desperately on a solo effort to reinstate his earlier promise. Colo is now finally officially shot poor lad, toonbotherered into the ground by the many naff personnel around him. Never a captain. Too many too mention are squad fillers in any pl side. Mitrovic is not our striking answer, and gives up easily. Wijnaldum hasn’t the resolve to be consistent.

  • 15 ilovetoon8788 // Feb 14, 2016 at 9:38 AM

    Our remaining home fixtures I foresee
    2 wins and 2 draws = 8 points
    Away fixtures about 3 draws. = 3 points
    Which makes total 11 points. Meaning about 35 – 36 points max. This predictions is based on us performing very well. Meaning we only lose half the remaining away games and pulling off surprise draws at manc and spurs.

    36 points max. I really don’t know if that is enough to survive relegation.

  • 16 Ron Knee // Feb 14, 2016 at 9:38 AM

    If NUFC was a movie:
    “One flew over the cuckoo’s nest”?
    “Groundhog Day”?

  • 17 sparky55 // Feb 14, 2016 at 9:40 AM

    Out of all the available second rate candidates that are available right now, all are a much safer bet than sticking with Maclaren.

    Who on this blog right now would not take

    Rafa (Yes I know that one’s unrealistic)
    AN OTHERS you can think of.

  • 18 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Feb 14, 2016 at 9:43 AM

    It would be a REAL surprise to get a draw down at spurs, since we already went down there and won in december 😀

  • 19 Mag52 // Feb 14, 2016 at 9:43 AM


    How about ‘Titanic’ ?

  • 20 Rotonda heights // Feb 14, 2016 at 9:45 AM

    We are paying the price of Charnley not having the balls to appoint someone exciting like Viera, instead of a twice failed championship manager who turned us down twice.

    Then compounding it by thinking Carr would be a better recruiter than the likes of Viera.

    Carr has been massively over-hyped as some sort of super scout when the evidence is very damning with fortunes lost on Rivi, cabella, Thauvin and bloated wages spent on marv, gouffran, de jong etc.

    If you wanted your club run properly would carr, charnley, SM be your dream team!!! The same clowns who think saylor might deserve another contract.

    If we go down then there will be a sense of karma that ash has only thrown money at it now when the horse has bolted but has continued to employ nuggets and numpties to spend it.

    Which sane club could employ all 3: SA, AP and SM, currently 13th, 18th and 19th with their respective clubs. Pathetic.

    Even more sadly if we stay up they’d only look at pulis or moyes. I feel like a true geordie rant and have to censor what I really feel!!!

  • 21 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Feb 14, 2016 at 9:46 AM

    How about “Mike and Steve make a porno”?

    The club is constantly being f#cked after all!

  • 22 Dragon64 // Feb 14, 2016 at 9:46 AM

    here go’s
    what needs to be done until end of the reason with what we have is get rid of charney, carr and maclaren get keeegan back until end of season giving him total control of players etc. this will get the fans behind him quickly no matter what ashley and keegan think of each other they have to work it out for the good of the club for the remaining fixtures then after that and we stay up hopefully they can take it from there no other way.

  • 23 LocalZero // Feb 14, 2016 at 9:48 AM

    Sparky55. I totally agree that any of those would be better. Trouble is I can’t imagine any manager wanting to replace McClaren for 12 games when there’s this much pressure on it. With no replacement lined up they can’t sack him.

  • 24 Ron Knee // Feb 14, 2016 at 9:53 AM


    “Mission Impossible”?

  • 25 sparky55 // Feb 14, 2016 at 9:53 AM

    the 3 stooges
    The lost boys
    Clear and present danger
    Naked gun 2…the smell of fear
    A fine mess
    The crying game

  • 26 banjax // Feb 14, 2016 at 9:53 AM

    There absolutely no reasons for Steve McLaren to still be at this club and the same goes for Lee Charnley too. In common with many on this blog I’m so fed up at Ashley’s lack of decision making when he’s spent £80m+ on players but has missed the obvious shortfall – the manager – it’s so glaringly obvious to everyone else. Newcastle is a fast sinking ship and Ashley is the only one who can make the drastic and necessary changes that are so badly needed.

  • 27 Rotonda heights // Feb 14, 2016 at 9:54 AM


    In fantasy land and at an ambitious normal club any of

    Pellegrini when available
    Rui Garcia

    to name a few but we all know Charnley would either c–p himself or probably not even know who they were, so another deadbeat like Pulis or moyes in the british also ran list of defensive, long ball, no frills, no thrills mediocre managers will continue no doubt.

    My girlfriend said I should add up all the hours I’ve wasted for 45 years following this shambles, KK and SBR apart.

  • 28 Jail for Ashley // Feb 14, 2016 at 9:57 AM

    Are they really going to let this man who wanted to be judged after 10, 13 and 19 games take us down. It certainly looks like it, whatever seems the logical decision, they stick their fingers up and put their heads in the sand and say we’ll do it our way thank you very much.

  • 29 juan // Feb 14, 2016 at 9:57 AM

    Keeps going on about players coming back from injuries? Mmbemba & dummett! Don’t think it matters who he plays we will get beat. On paper we have a lot better side than bottom 3. It’s down do the bell end managing them. They don’t want to play for him. And if nothing changes were dead certs for relegation. Dreading the derby match Can’t see anything other than a defeat

  • 30 sparky55 // Feb 14, 2016 at 9:59 AM

    I think Laudrup is out of work right now so why not risk it fir a biscuit.

    All those you mention are exactly the calibre we should be aiming at but our owner won’t pay the money.

    He’s gonna learn the lesson this year…if you pay peanuts you gets monkeys

  • 31 BandB // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:00 AM

    To me, it appeared in the summer that the talk of “bolting the horse to the cart” meant one thing.
    That those in charge believed that they had the basic recruitment policy right, but that they had made a mistake in appointing Carver as interim head coach.
    All they needed to do, they thought, was to appoint a new head coach who mirrored Pardew’s blasé ability to put a brave face on the club’s modest ambition to survive in lower mid table.
    “Win with the fans, and you are winning,” seems to be their motto.
    They set a target of eighth, but continued with the policy of signing young foreign talent with a potential sell-on value while offloading a similar number of players at the same time.
    Last season’s squad was by a distance the worst in the league in the second half of the season.
    The signings they made were the type that might ginger up a squad that was basically sound. They did not address a seriously thin squad with little depth that was short in almost all positions.
    There is also a reason why the reserve string is in a poor league. It is because we do not have a conveyor belt of top class talent coming through.
    With the winter signings we now have a team just about capable of lower mid table form, if they are deployed correctly.
    Unfortunately a combination of unimaginative tactics and low morale mean we can only play well against teams who are having real off-day or are failing to net themselves.
    Too much hope sprung from the West Brom game, as too much despair is around now and was after Everton.
    This team isn’t going to just gel suddenly and naturally given enough time, as McClaren grinningly hopes.
    Things only gel with the right ingredients and the right conditions.
    Gelling needs an agent, and we don’t have one.

  • 32 Rotonda heights // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:01 AM

    After the 3-0 and 5-1 defeats after spending 30M last month even ash must be asking wtf!!

  • 33 Rotonda heights // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:01 AM


    exactly mate.

  • 34 lesh // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:01 AM

    Yes Steve we have and have has defensive weaknesses for years and despite that, you were complicit in letting Willo go.

    Brilliant strategic planning or what!

  • 35 sparky55 // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:02 AM

    Not forgetting of course…

    The Jerk!

  • 36 Lindisfarne // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:02 AM

    Surely saying that “we play attacking football on the front foot” and “we were over exposed” are contradictory. Highlighting our defensive weaknesses, saying he expected an early onslaught and seemingly failing to counteract either prior to, or change the formation temporarily during play, suggests an inability to influence. Shteve is obviously emotionally invested but his own words identify how ineffectual he actually is.

  • 37 firebug666 // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:03 AM

    What an horror show it was for the fans yesterday.

    I have to wonder, but what exactly do we to in training?

    After the early goal we managed to totally collapse again, headless chickens would have given a better display.

    There are no excuses, not from the so called head coach, not from the none performing players, and not from the club.

    Last season Charnley confessed mistakes were made, but did not elaborate on what those mistakes were, glossing over them.

    Today those same mistakes are being made, and nothing is being done to rectify the problems.

    We simply cannot get out of the bottom four, it’s not that the players aren’t good enough, but the staff who train them, and the head coach who sets up the team and the tactics it seems simply don’t have a clue.

    Nothing changes, it’s the same thing every time, followed by the same excuses.

    I was quietly optimistic that this team had enough about them to pull away from the relegation zone, it seem my optimism was wasted, I never took into account how poor the head coach could be in setting us up.

    Macca will take us down, and keep us there, Only one person can save this season and that is Ashley, but he must make some drastic changes now in these 18 days or wave good buy to the riches of premiership football.

  • 38 mindshaft // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:03 AM

    Ashley has well and truly f’d up this time, appointing Charnley who in turn appoints McClaren and then he compounds it by giving them 80 odd million to spend on a pile of poo

  • 39 lesh // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:05 AM


    How about adding Apocalypse Now to your list of apt films?

  • 40 Lindisfarne // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:06 AM


    Agree with every word.

  • 41 sparky55 // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:06 AM


    yep…just about sums it up nicely mate!

  • 42 Jail for Ashley // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:07 AM

    If you take away the Man City, Palace, mackems, Everton and yesterday’s game then our goal difference isn’t that bad really.

  • 43 lesh // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:07 AM


    Or even Armageddon

  • 44 Rotonda heights // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:07 AM


    tbf willo is a league 1 player who s–t himself with anyone running at him on the deck and for a big lad lost a lot of headers.

    If ever proof were needed about the inadequate people ash has employed (jfk twice was a shocker) we had arguably the slowest CB pairing in the league yesterday. I can’t believe none of westergard, kone, koubilaly or similar weren’t brought in.

    If we had pursued a LB and CB as keenly as Carr went after Thauvin we may not be in this mess. Then again. . . .

  • 45 kakaobi // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:08 AM

    Think Ashley should be paying for the fans to go to Spain not them bunch of cowards who now sound worried in case it rains out there and macclaren coming out with “we couldn’t deal with the ball” excuse ffs isn’t that just basic football knowing what to do with it

  • 46 Rotonda heights // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:09 AM

    mindshaft at 38

    you put it better than I could and with far fewer words!!

  • 47 Lindisfarne // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:11 AM

    Hello Jeff from Benhall

  • 48 Ron Knee // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:13 AM

    “Eyes Wide Shut”?

  • 49 Jail for Ashley // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:14 AM

    Wtf was he grinning at, by laughing inanely like some kind of friutcake was he trying to put a message out that everything’s ok. The way he was scratching his nose would suggest that he hasn’t a ckue how to put things right. Luckily we’ve got Mikey who will step in when things get nasty, like he did last season when we were headed for disaster.

  • 50 Lindisfarne // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:14 AM


    If I could scrub all my bad performances, I would be a virgin.

  • 51 sparky55 // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:15 AM

    It looked to me like the players could see the tactics Maclaren put in place for the game were floored and that some of the players who started were either out of position or didn’t deserve to start and when the inevitable came to being they just played it out.

    Shelvey is obviously a very emotional kid…he gave up when the 2nd goal went in….sissoko was never interested or involved, Aarons should never have started at left back against a team like Chelsea, Mitro was isolated and Colo was always going to be dominated by Costa.

    It was a shambles of the highest order

  • 52 toon kk // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:17 AM

    We were simply out classed in every area, we played sh.t but we usually do anyway.

    Too many people expect to much from our over rated flops. But what I will say is for all our defence is weak, it’s our poor work rate and decision making what’s letting us down.

  • 53 BandB // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:20 AM

    Thanks Lindisfarne.
    Nice to think someone read it.

  • 54 posada // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:20 AM

    Chelsea pressed the ball in all areas. We could not keep it for more than 2 seconds.
    That from a team that we are told is being coached to play passing football.
    That from a team with Internationals in 9 out of 11 positions.

  • 55 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:20 AM

    Man City
    Crystal Palace
    Chelsea have all had their biggest or equal biggest wins against us this season.

    We have only won by more than one clear goal twice this season

    Plus teams to play
    Man City – have not got a point off them since we came up
    Southampton – not got a point at St Mary’s
    Norwich – not won their in twenty years
    Liverpool – not got a point their since we came up
    Sunderland – not got a point and one goal in last 6 games
    Leicester – not won at the Keepmote
    Tottenham – beat us last three visits to Tyneside
    Swansea – lost last year

    So what bloody chance do we have of staying up.

    and a bunch of shits wearing balck ‘n’n white who don’t give a f**k
    unlike the Mackems who yesterday gave Allerdyce and the everything

    Man where on a roller coaster – a few ups but a lot of downs bloody big downs

  • 56 Jail for Ashley // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:21 AM

    Take away those results and we’d still be in the minus. He has to be the worst manager in our history and they simply won’t sack him as he was meant to be in tenth place now, out of both cups and a back up plan isn’t in place.

  • 57 clinath@ed // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:22 AM

    Morning all.
    So now every team in the league knows how to beat us. Score early and watch the spineless fools fold like a pack of cards.

  • 58 posada // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:25 AM

    Your comment about the players not believing in the tactics.
    Very true.
    Same was the case at Everton.
    Aarons – Give the hardest job to the kid. Sums up this rotten bunch. Did any of the more senoir pros volunteer to play there. I bet they did’nt.

  • 59 posada // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:28 AM

    I could manage the team better than that prat.
    Three at the back, Colback and Janmaat as wing backs.
    Park the bus.
    At least we would have posed them a problem and been comfortable in possession.
    He never comes up with anything.

  • 60 lesh // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:29 AM


    What I was driving at was that given our very weak defensive options, Charnley still let Willo go when he knew Saylor was set to return albeit possibly temporarily! Better to have Willo in reserve than nobody surely.

    Charnley and Carr need to be put in stocks in the Bigg Market! They have driven the shambles of transfer activity yet again.

  • 61 The overrated Frenchman // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:32 AM

    Too much despair, BandB? Why shouldn’t Newcastle fans be drowning in it? Surely we are entitled to that. Personally, my irritability keeps me alive and kicking…
    Anyway, if I was Ashley, I’d bypass the board at this point. Just sack McClaren. Engage somebody with a proper football pedigree, pay them silly money, and say you’ve got a week to hire me a manager who can get us out of this. End of season, come what may, it’s goodbye and good riddance to the incumbent incompetents who have inexcusably brought us to the edge of this cliff.

  • 62 WestOzMag // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:32 AM

    Ashley out!
    McClaren out!
    Charnley out!
    Carr out!
    Bottlers wearing the bnw out!
    Clueless headbangers on this blog out!

  • 63 lochinvar // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:33 AM

    The great mystery is why Charnley is pulling the strings when clearly he has absolutely no football understanding that is beyond comprehension. 5 year olds knew that Austin wanted to stay at home in the south with his missus and his other interests. Fine – I can accept that. What is not acceptable is that Charrnley possibly though otherwise. Any coach will tell you that mobility and some height at Centre Back is a prerequisite to successful defending yet we do nothing about that. What sort of contract did Charnley give Colo – is there a clause at prevents him from being dropped ? He’s club Captain – when was he last interviewed on Sky or MOTD ? ( had to ask as I can’t be ars@d to watch anymore my Blood Pressure won’t take it ) and what inspirational words did he impart ?
    McLaren’s body language and excuses have all the traits of a poor actor who got found out on an episode of the Bill for shoplifting Mara Bars and the clue is that his face is covered in chocolate.
    It’s embarrassing, pathetic and obvious that Charnley, Carr and McLaren have nowhere to hide.
    As for the players they should donate their weeks earnings to all the fans who went to Chelsea.

  • 64 Rotonda heights // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:35 AM

    yes tactics were flawed

  • 65 Jail for Ashley // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:35 AM

    If it wasnt so bloody serious you’d have to laugh at it.

  • 66 sparky55 // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:38 AM

    Maclaren is a bit like the cockney twerp we had a couple of years ago…if we ever won a game he’d stick with the same team irrespective of who he’s playing next , whether it was home or away and what tactics were deployed in the game he won.

    There is no way a manager of team that’s struggling as much as we are should have picked the same team who played and just beat West Brom and adopt the same tactics for a game against Chelsea away…especially when we’re going away for 18 days.

    That horror show will not disappear from anyone’s mind anytime soon.

    He’s a moron and should be shown the door before it’s too late…but maybe it’s too late already

  • 67 Lindisfarne // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:38 AM

    £80+ million on nine players, two left have left the club temporarily, one injured and added to a squad continuously carrying a large number of injuries. Repeatedly inconsistent and close to relegation season after season. Despite being booted out by a Championship club that he identified as being close to his heart, I was prepared to over look the failure of Shteve to gain promotion. The problems at Nufc will definitely take more than a season to resolve and although difficult should probably be given time to improve. But there is no indication of “things pulling together”, players look equally lost and without any cohesion. Bigging up Collocinni and Sissoko before the start of the season has failed, not with identifying the problem but creating a successful solution…..

  • 68 toon kk // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:38 AM

    Tbh we haven’t got a chance in hell of staying up,it’s been on the cards for several seasons.
    We need to go down and start over, we can’t compete in the premier league so what’s the point of being in it. We’re the laziest bunch of players in every division.
    If the board can’t see there own mistakes we have no hope.
    Next season I predict us struggling in the championship. There may not be as much quality in the championship but the work rate is always there and we lack both.

  • 69 Rotonda heights // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:39 AM


    willo or no one. too close to call!!!

    Why they didn’t address the defence is scandalous.

    if i was ash now i wouldn’t entrust any decision making to the chuckle brothers charnley and carr

  • 70 Jail for Ashley // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:43 AM

    People blaming Ashley, people blaming Charnley or Mclaren, like I said, what a cosy little set up Mr Bishop has arranged, they think they’re so clever, it won’t be until relegation is a reality that they understand that PR can’t change the fact we will be travelling to Doncaster and Preston. The Ashley out movement will be stalled again because too many people will believe he is the nan to get us out of the mess again.

  • 71 toon kk // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:45 AM

    Tbf who, which players are our defence?
    Even if Macca gets his tactics wrong, which he does. Who can defend?
    Another question who’s our goal scorer?
    The squad is flawed.

  • 72 spaghetti bandit // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:46 AM

    I honestly think Norwich will go down with Swansea,, Swanseas nxt 2 fixtures are against Tottenham and arsenal and there last 4 are against Leicester West ham Liverpool and city,, honestly think there gonners especially hope so with th bile there executive spills out,, also Norwich are shocking!! Sunderland have a pretty decent run in for themselves and can see them getting out no bother especially after 4 points v man u n Liverpool.. I jus hope we can pick the wins up against Swansea Bournemouth Norwich n villa n think Tht could be enough,, beating Sunderland would be a massive massive bonus but sadly a can’t really see it,, Tht Sunday is gunna be another painful experience I feel..

  • 73 Jail for Ashley // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:46 AM

    toon kk,
    We need to go down and start again, give your head a shake man. What will being relegated achieve.

  • 74 sparky55 // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:46 AM


    It is mind boggling he put those two in charge of a business that turns over 120 million plus a year and worth 350 million.

    It’s like putting kids in charge of a sweet shop…

    it does make you wonder how he ever made any money but the reason he has made so much money is he always made all the key decisions himself.

    NUFC was in his eyes a marketing vehicle for his SD empire and nothing else…he failed to see what could happen if the business got relegated because in his ignorance he thought they would never go down and if they were in danger of going down he could throw some money at it.

    how wrong he was…

  • 75 Lindisfarne // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:46 AM


    That is quite a list….of doom!
    A very true analysis all the same.

  • 76 lesh // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:47 AM

    A little bit of planning would see Moyes or some other credible manager being at La Manga waiting for the players arrival – McClaren having been sacked.

    However, in the world that Ashley lives in that ain’t gonna happen.

    I can see a sale of out top players if/ when we go down and then it’ll start all over again – cheap imports with Charnley and Carr on the bridge of the once good ship Newcastle United.

    I just can’t understand how Ashley can appear so relaxed, disinterested in the Club’s failings – he must see that his credibility in business must be affected.

  • 77 BandB // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:48 AM


    Too much despair from people who will still be tipping us for a strong finish if we scrape a point against Stoke.
    Too much despair for people who think we’ll clear out the manager and the board in the summer and definitely, definitely, definitely launch an assault on the cups and the top eight NEXT season.
    Next season…
    Yeh….that’s it!!!!

  • 78 clinath@ed // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:48 AM

    I can’t say whether or not SMs tactics are right or wrong….I can see no evidence for discerning what he’s trying to achieve.
    What I do see, however, is a bunch of overpaid fools who either don’t believe him or don’t give a fcuk about who is employing them.
    They don’t want to be here, don’t like each other’s company and obviously don’t rate SM.
    All that crap they systematically came out with, after the Everton debacle…then they produced yesterday’s performance……..b’lox!

  • 79 lesh // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:49 AM


    Kids in charge of a sweetshop?

    How about like putting King Herod in charge of a creche!

  • 80 sparky55 // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:50 AM

    or Charnley in charge of a football club…now that would be funny!

  • 81 lochinvar // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:52 AM

    Scousers are Red
    Chelski are Blue
    McLarens quite useless
    Charnleys no clue


  • 82 doofa the loofa // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:52 AM

    Kk is available mike what ya waiting for??

  • 83 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:53 AM

    Ashley in or out I ain’t got a clue what would be the best?
    Could be out of the frying pan into the fire.

    Staying up Relegation I ain’t know what would be the best?
    staying up take the money and bump along the way we are doing
    relegation – players leave – left with the dross – not going to be easy getting back up.

    OR do a Portsmouth go down and down club become worthless and fans buy the club – be hard to take – but could be a blessing in disguise

  • 84 The overrated Frenchman // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:55 AM

    BandB. Does despair and misplaced optimism have to go hand in hand? I believe I’m entitled to the former, and have too much well earned cynicism to entertain the latter…

  • 85 Jail for Ashley // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:55 AM

    I remember the common mantra was that Mikey learns from his mistakes and can only get better as an owner. He is too god damn stubborn to even realise mistakes have been made, in his eyes the only mistakes have been that more money has had to have been spent in three windows than he would have liked. Had we not have nearly been relegated a few seasons ago, that 19M spent in January would have been spent in the summer and offset with player departures.

  • 86 sparky55 // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:56 AM

    When we go down we’ll never come up again unless there’s a change of ownership into the hands of a responsible and committed owner.

    Ashley doesn’t care and you can see that in everything he does and who he appointed to run the club

  • 87 Ron Knee // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:56 AM


    But if we do survive, what makes you think things will be any better next season?

  • 88 toon kk // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:57 AM

    What’s staying in the premier league achieving? If we can’t compete, which we clearly can’t. We might as well drop down.
    I’d rather watch a competitive game than the dross we’ve been put through for the last two seasons.
    Don’t get me wrong i want us to be a successful premier league club, but it just ain’t gonna happen until MA sees the errors of his and his boards ways.

  • 89 Essex Geordie Bill // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:57 AM

    McClaren took a huge gamble in playing Aarons at left back, it’s becoming very obvious that he is a tactical nonce even worse than Pardew.

    There are kids in the squad, not to mention Colback who would do a better job defensively.

    I seriously thought that he was going to walk out from the stadium after the first goal, pity he hadn’t and kept on walking.

    Bring back Pearson!!!

  • 90 hibbitt // Feb 14, 2016 at 10:58 AM

    as much as i think it would be make sense i just think its wishful thinking on our behalf that Mc will be sacked there’s not even a hint of it any where charnley will just stick his head in the sand till the ship sinks

  • 91 Jail for Ashley // Feb 14, 2016 at 11:01 AM

    I don’t know either but if he does relegate us then there simply has to be mass protests for him to sell up. If we do come back up with him would you really look forward to what we have seen over the last five years since promotion

  • 92 BandB // Feb 14, 2016 at 11:02 AM


    I think people are exasperated because this tarted up first team is still misfiring.
    They believe it’s a top eight team, and can’t figure why it isn’t pulling away from the bottom.
    But we have installed expensive new windows in a house with rotting foundations.
    At least we’ll have a nice clear view when the house falls down.

  • 93 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Feb 14, 2016 at 11:02 AM

    Clinath…then lets get someone in here whom the players will respect and someone who will bench anyone he sees fit!

    …it would probably be enough for me if that person would try something different and really give it ago, but not being afraid to make the necessarily changes.

  • 94 terencelim // Feb 14, 2016 at 11:02 AM

    Ashley appointed the same type and same level of manager/headcoach over and over again. He couldn’t even prove his own ass lickers right for once.

  • 95 lochinvar // Feb 14, 2016 at 11:03 AM

    Did he really say this?
    Did he really say this ?
    Steve McClaren talking to the BBC:
    “I think we caused our own problems by not being able to deal with the ball.

    Well Steve – why don’t we play without the ball ?
    Oh silly me that’s what you told the team.

  • 96 hibbitt // Feb 14, 2016 at 11:04 AM

    toon kk
    even if we go down who says we will be competitive the squad is not fit for purpose in either league we dont have the type of player like the last time

  • 97 The overrated Frenchman // Feb 14, 2016 at 11:05 AM

    I think that’s true Hibbitt. I expect Charnley and Carr will doggedly stick by “their man” McClaren and hope like hell we stay up. Not that it should save their sorry backsides if we do.

  • 98 Ron Knee // Feb 14, 2016 at 11:06 AM

    And if we do manage to stay up they won’t replace McClaren next season.

  • 99 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Feb 14, 2016 at 11:07 AM

    Yes lochinvar…he did say that!

    …we simply couldn’t deal with the ball…it was round, going all over the place 😉

  • 100 posada // Feb 14, 2016 at 11:07 AM

    Can anybody explain Toites performance.
    From minute one diving it when he should have stayed on his feet and defended the situation.
    One good game and he is then back to his usual self. Stupid and arrogant.
    But what was the manager saying to him ?
    Every time he dived in it was a free kick or he was taken out of the game and they were running at our defenders.

  • 101 toon kk // Feb 14, 2016 at 11:08 AM

    Of course it’s just wishful thinking about Macca getting the sack, his job is as safe.
    You can count on that.

    Tbf we’re playing with basically no decent defenders, no manager can change that if he came in now. But Aarons in defence against Chelsea??

  • 102 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Feb 14, 2016 at 11:09 AM

    Ron…that’s the down side of relegation they won’t see a point in changing anything!

    …remember mistakes have been made but we are looking to the future 😉 You couldn’t make this crap up even if you wanted to!

  • 103 Ron Knee // Feb 14, 2016 at 11:12 AM


    We’re between a rock and a hard place. If we stay up (unlikely) we can expect to stay in the drop zone, suffering more humiliations like yesterday’s. If we get relegated (likely) we’ll have to reconcile ourselves to life in the Championship for years to come. Some choice, eh?

  • 104 toon kk // Feb 14, 2016 at 11:12 AM

    I have to agree actually, I said that in a early post I think we would struggle in the championship, but we definitely can’t compete in the premier league.
    I’m fed up with it all tbh.

  • 105 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Feb 14, 2016 at 11:13 AM

    People who still hope we will survive dont understand that thats not the f@ucking point.

    I for one sm certain we are getting relegated. Whats worse dont see us coming up soon at all to be honest. If ever. The club’s mentality is all wrong with wrong people in charge.

    Its so obvious and people dont want to admit it to themselves.
    If by some complete miracle we survive if Ashley does not invest another 100 million from the outset as we know he wont we are f@cked again fughting survival from the outset.

    Its a comedy of errors and mismanagement yet again.

  • 106 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Feb 14, 2016 at 11:14 AM

    posada…every once in a while Tiote plays a great game (like any other player) and then people who have called him out for what he is, knows nothing of football!

    …that’s just the way it is. Tiote is not going to add much in the long run. He’ll get frustrated soon and then he’ll pick up a suspension.

    Colback will soon be back in the team running endlessly in midfield for no good reason and picking up yellow cards on the way. But we can always agree he runs alot…

  • 107 Jail for Ashley // Feb 14, 2016 at 11:14 AM

    toon kk,
    We’re all fed up with it mate!

  • 108 Jail for Ashley // Feb 14, 2016 at 11:17 AM

    You’re all focusing on the league table too much, the football under the hapless tuft is far superior to Pardews.

  • 109 Ron Knee // Feb 14, 2016 at 11:17 AM


    It’s tricky. Ashley decided to make a fight of it by releasing money to buy more players. If we go down he won’t be too pleased with Charmless!

  • 110 hibbitt // Feb 14, 2016 at 11:18 AM

    toon kk
    total agree even if we were lucky enough to get rid of Mc any new manager would have to deal with the same defencive problems we have for years just not sure we have the players at the club for even a new manager to be able sort it

  • 111 toon kk // Feb 14, 2016 at 11:34 AM

    I wonder what our players have to say for themselves? What’s there excuse for not turning up, the majority didn’t even seem to care.

  • 112 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Feb 14, 2016 at 11:37 AM

    Ron…I find it strange that we way to be relegated for Ashley to realize the mistakes made by him and by his appointed MD.

    If a manager is not good enough or living up to expectations then you remove him and rectify your mistake…you don’t make the same mistake again.

  • 113 21st Century Schizoid Man // Feb 14, 2016 at 11:39 AM

    The Hapless Tuft is an appointment made by Ashley. Ashley hates admitting he has made a wrong decision having all the arrogance of the self made businessman – which is why he is hiding behind the ‘independent’ Board. So he’ll probably carry on with Edward Smith as his main man. A man unable to motivate a losing team to play their hearts out.

    We need at least 4 wins from home games – and certainly all the 6 pointers.
    We need a win away from home but hen’s teeth are easier to find.

    Put honestly, despite the talent in our squad – BandB’s half a team – who will probably be sold on in the summer – we deserve to be relegated on current form

  • 114 Munster Mag // Feb 14, 2016 at 11:41 AM

    You’d have to wonder what analsis Carr does on some of his signings. Especially on the mental side. Right now, I would take Moyes all say long, or the x Leicester guy who would probably beat the wits out of Sissoko for some of his efforts this season. For me, it all went pear shaped when they extended Colo’s contract. I have a feeling that wasnt SMC’s choice. But he did give him captaincy. There again, what captaincy ponential do you see in that bunch ? Ashley has to take action now, and root out Charnley and Carr in the summer, but thats highky unlikely.

  • 115 BandB // Feb 14, 2016 at 11:41 AM

    My point is that folks are hailing the team and getting their hopes up one week and crashing into despair the next.
    What they are reacting to is the same team producing a fairly constant ordinary level of football.
    The only thing that varies from week to week is the level of performance the opposition puts up.

    Angels…what do we call you for short now 🙁

  • 116 andrew84 // Feb 14, 2016 at 11:41 AM

    I don’t know what to be more annoyed by.

    The perpetual spineless performances by “top 4” players such as Sissoko, or the inane grinning by McClaren during every interview? Does he even realise that the fans are hacked off?

  • 117 posada // Feb 14, 2016 at 11:43 AM


    The Hapless Tuft.

    I like that name. Has a certain ring to it.

  • 118 hibbitt // Feb 14, 2016 at 11:44 AM

    the problem is its not just the manager that’s not good enough the MD is no good and the the chief scout /DF has lost the plot put them 3 in the mix and you end up relegated

  • 119 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Feb 14, 2016 at 11:46 AM

    Colback – yesterday on five minutes and should of had a penalty given for holding in the box
    Taylor does the bloody same – pair of ruddy octopuses.
    Merit Marks in Sunday Sun sums up the TOON
    Elliot 6
    Janmaatt 4
    Taylor 3
    Colo 2
    Aarons 3
    Tiote 3
    Shelvey 3
    Sissoko 3
    Wijnadum 4
    Townsend 5
    Mitrovic 3

    Colback 5
    Lascalles 4
    Doumbia 4

    Bloody shower

    taylor lucky to get 3 merit marks 1 if lucky ran around like a headless chicken

  • 120 GEORDIE69 // Feb 14, 2016 at 11:47 AM

    Well McLaren you said to judge you after 10 games, well I can safely say after 26 that you are way out of your depth as you were managing England!

    As for your quotes “We said that before the game. We were over-exposed as well because it was Steven Taylor’s second game in seven months and Rolando Aarons is a winger playing at left-back.”

    Thats what happens when you enter a Premier League season with 1 decent full back and 1 decent centre half! Taylor, Dummet, Haidara, Colocinni and Lascelles are not Premier League class! Funnily enough 7 defenders is not enough either.


  • 121 Jail for Ashley // Feb 14, 2016 at 11:49 AM

    I think Munster is right, sack Graham Carr and everything eill be rosy, given the right players Macca will have us pushing for the CL spots

  • 122 Toon Tang // Feb 14, 2016 at 11:53 AM

    Leicester 17/4 at arsenal today. Get your money on coz they’re gonna roll them over good and proper.

  • 123 Ron Knee // Feb 14, 2016 at 11:56 AM


    I’ve just discovered Robert Fripp is married to Toyah Willcox. We live and learn!

  • 124 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 14, 2016 at 11:58 AM

    There’s a flaw in Ed’s analysis. He says we have a good squad – the pundits would agree. (Would they?) Then he writes in another article that two of the three main problems is that we haven’t spent anywhere near enough money in the defence or the attack. Explain that one.

    Ed loves knocking Carver, but Carver kept us up with a poor squad with far less money spent. Yes, kept us up Ed. Events this season show how difficult Carver’s job actually was. And Makro has similar problems.

    Ed was full of optimism in the summer with the new management team and signings. And then again after the Januaey signings. I’ve been sounding the alarm bells all along. From very early doors I’ve said you’d have to be mad to give this regime of Charnley and Carr any money to spend and I wouldn’t trust them with my Tesco Clubcard points.

  • 125 toon kk // Feb 14, 2016 at 11:58 AM

    I honestly think our players are short of a f-ing good rollicking.
    I wonder what a effect A. Furguson would have on our lacklustre championship candidates.

    Tbf I think most of us expected us to be beat yesterday, but to be humiliated is not acceptable. At least give it a go.

  • 126 Rotonda heights // Feb 14, 2016 at 11:59 AM

    I think seeing the inevitable demise of CP under AP, even the most ardent AP supporters will finally admit that at NUFC we have just continually appointed one poor, inadequate and mediocre manager one after another.

    SA, AP. JC and SM are just rank bang average managers with no plan B. True Carr is complicit, as is Charnley, but surely Ash can’t be happy with allowing these inadequates to continue in post.

    We don’t have the lever of accusing Ash of not spending any more, just allocating it to the obviously wrong people to spend it.

  • 127 Munster Mag // Feb 14, 2016 at 11:59 AM

    Jail, your life focus on Ashley isnt helping you.

  • 128 Rotonda heights // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:03 PM


    Carver kept us up???

    He lost nearly every game and even just beat AP for most unwanted records. we just had enough left in the bag to play a west ham team already on the beach on the last day and fall over the line.

    If that’s keeping us up, it’s a very twisted interpretation of it.

  • 129 hibbitt // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:06 PM

    there’s very little point in sacking Mc if we keep the other two clowns i would rather get rid of charnley and carr and build from there

  • 130 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:06 PM

    hibbitt…possibly, but I still don’t know for sure to what extent Carr signs the players.

    Is he just forwarding his two cents and then Charnley starts from the bottom of the list?

    Another great question is why is Ashley okay with this? This part I still don’t get.

  • 131 Rotonda heights // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:08 PM

    why on earth would people want moyes. same old same old. failed very badly in last 2 jobs, ie hoofball to fellaini at manu and they also hated his style in spain. no thanks. Move on get someone exciting and dynamic. Haven’t we had our fill of dour scotsmen as managers

  • 132 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:09 PM

    hibbitt…I am not sure keeping McC will safe us from relegation, but I agree Charnley should be out the door along with McC.

    …what’s Charnley going to do from now until the summer anyway?

  • 133 Whumpie // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:10 PM

    I get sick of this. We’re shit. Sack the manager. Pause. We’re shit. Sack the manager.

    Our current manager is doing very, very badly. So will his replacement. And the one after that.

    We won’t get a decent manager in until we have a decent squad, and that takes more than an £80m splurge if you’ve spent nowt (actually, made a profit) for the seven previous years. We have a championship-quality defence with no depth at all. We have NO proven strikers. We have a squad made up primarily of ‘promising’ kids and punts from abroad.

    So sack Macca if you like. But it won’t change a bloody thing any more than it did with EVERY MANAGER SINCE SIR BOBBY.

  • 134 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:13 PM

    Charlie…I don’t think I can take much positive with me from that game to be honest.

    …it was poor all over. Shelvey didn’t have the worst of game, and Townsend…well he scored.

    I am not sure what you were trying to say about Colback?

  • 135 Whumpie // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:13 PM

    We’re in limbo now because the club has suddenly changed its recruitment – but is it a genuine change or just another attempt to shore up our mid-table marketing capability?

    I get fed up saying it, but as long as we keep feeding Sports Wrecked, we’ll see endless variations on the same crap, season after season.

    I honestly don’t know what the answer is right now; wait to see if they really are trying to win (especially now Ashley’s had his fat arse kicked out of Rangers – hats off to them for not being as dumb and pliable as us) or carry on yelling for a boycott that will never come… because we’re so dumb and pliable.

  • 136 belgrade fan // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:15 PM

    I just saw we will probably face Stoke out of relegation zone coz Norwich plays Leicester away and will be hammered….

  • 137 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:18 PM

    Colback – I thought he was shite!! lucky not to give away a pen.

    Mind you Fabregas dirty Tw*t should of given a penalty away for his cynical studs/stamp on Mitrovic.

    John Carver on BBC MOM 2 TV and Radio 5 live

  • 138 hibbitt // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:19 PM

    Blackley and Brownlie
    still think its the historic decisions that are the main problems and they were down to carr charnley and ashley not sure any new manager would have done much better with the players we have we all know we haven’t had a back 4 good enough for the prem for years and what have this shower done about it nowt

  • 139 toon kk // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:19 PM

    Charnless shouldn’t be any where near our club, that’s up to Mash though same with Carr, an old man scouting in modern day football doesn’t work. Then there’s Macca an improvement on P45 but still out of his depth. Our training has to be questioned.
    Then we’re left with our players, some decent players mixed with useless flops.
    But every player has exactly the same problem, a lazy attitude with little commitment on far too many occasions.

  • 140 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:19 PM

    Rotonda…they want Moyes so we can have the same discussion as we had about McC! What a blast that will be!

  • 141 Goofy // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:20 PM

    McClaren’ only been here 8-9 months and everybody wants him out.

    I posted last week about him taking over from a complete mess, it’s going to take 2 or 3 seasons to get that sorted.

    In the last window Ashley spent but was only a last gasp attempt to stay up. They didn’t address the problem that everybody else in the world could see.

    Sacking McClaren now wouldn’t help. They employed Shearer with 8 games to go, he didn’t have the experience but if a guy like that couldn’t raise a teams spirit, who could with 12 games left.

    We are playing well at home, so if we can take maximum points from all of home games and the teams around us are just as bad, we’ll stay up. Why do we support a team that’s scrimping and scraping all season? The f-&* if I know.

  • 142 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:22 PM

    Charlie…just didn’t get the Colback part at first. I am not a fan either as I outlined in post 106 😉

  • 143 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:26 PM

    Goofy…look at Leicester, last season they were fighting relegation!

  • 144 Goofy // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:28 PM


    Ranieri is the difference. We won’t get a manager of that calibre under Ashley.

  • 145 Jail for Ashley // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:30 PM

    He shouldn’t have been appointed in the first place

  • 146 catchy in norway // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:31 PM


    When are you staring you Pardew for nufc campaign? Your puppet master

  • 147 Hail Wor Ashley // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:32 PM

    Anybody watching the DM masterclass from Kante? That’s a top DM, not like our plodder Tiote that’s slow as shite across the ground and in the head, which means he more often than not fouls or is simply bypassed by pace. He set the bad tone yesterday for the team.

  • 148 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:35 PM

    I agree.

    Makro is just another average manager at best, with a poor squad. You’ve got to laugh at the idea that he’s a top coach. A man who comes out grinning inanely with the assessment that we’re unable to deal with the ball. We’re therefore grateful for 17 days away from the ball.

    If we sack him, which we should, Charnley and Carr have to go too. They’re up to their necks in it and nobody in their right mind would leave them at the wheel.

  • 149 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:36 PM

    McClaren needs to go, get a decent manager in until the end of the season to keep us up. A manager who knows how to get the team to fight and knows modern tactics.

  • 150 Goofy // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:38 PM


    I didn’t want him here either. My only point is give him a couple of seasons as they’ll only replace him with somebody who’ll cow tow or be even more of a failure. The future is very f’&*^ing black under a bunch of rag and bone men #any old iron, any old iron, any any any old iron#

  • 151 The Diamond dogs hoojars // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:40 PM

    I wonder were Shteve went after that first goal yesterday, very strange and erratic behavior, the fella has coaching ability as most players say, but he cannot lift his players despite his best efforts, they are not responding, i am embarrassed by it it all, He certainly should be embarrassed also, he should not have been anywhere near this club after being sacked by a championship club, yet another catastrophe manager, if you want to move forward and make your own luck Mike you do not employ managers who are the easy option for starters, its a bloody mess, its got the whole city totally fed up.

  • 152 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:41 PM

    The record shows that the inexperienced Carver kept us up despite the fact that we had a poor squad and he was thrown in at the deep end. It shows NUFC are the biggest spenders in Europe under the experienced Makro and we’re heading down. Keeping us up is by far the best record of all given the threadbare shambles we were.

  • 153 toon kk // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:42 PM

    Our main problems lies with a very poor defence, when we do on a rare occasion play well we lack a top goal scorer. No manager can change that without the board bringing the right quality in first.
    But the players definitely have a loosing attitude and lack effort as well as confidence.

  • 154 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:44 PM

    Penalty Leicester

  • 155 Hail Wor Ashley // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:45 PM

    Get in there. Leicester winning.

  • 156 toonking // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:45 PM

    watching leicester city arsenal match at the minute and arsenal certainly being the more aggressive of the two.

    If it were newcastle playing this arsenal team we’d have gone 2-0 down by now but leicester are still 0-0, the reason- because leicester city are packed with a team who all work around one another, helping each other out with defence and attack stead of playing as individuals, missing great chances and giving opposition so much space.

  • 157 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:45 PM

    SackSteveMcClaren ?@SackSMcClaren · 3m3 minutes ago

    Mike Ashley if you really want all that money from next seasons TV deal then you need to #sackmcclaren and get a decent manager in. #nufc

  • 158 toonking // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:46 PM

    now they go 1-0 ahead

  • 159 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:47 PM

    SackSteveMcClaren ?@SackSMcClaren · 3m3 minutes ago

    McClaren cannot motivate the team, if the team has no motivation we will not stay up #sackmcclaren #nufc

  • 160 hibbitt // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:49 PM

    Take A Chancel On Me
    do you think charnley and carr are capable of getting a decent manager in ??……….they thought carver was good enough and they appointed Mc ……any new manager would still be stuck with this squad of player which is simply not good enough ………charnley and carr must be first out the door

  • 161 mindshaft // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:50 PM

    Leicester looking good for title at the moment , sort of hope Spuds get 2nd which should give every non big spending team a lift. From bottom to champions in a season and a bit and barely spent anything …
    shame we’ve done the complete opposite , spent 80 odd million trying to buy a top half position and getting relegated

  • 162 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:50 PM


    Surely they have to, if not Mashley should get himself involved

  • 163 Thump // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:52 PM

    Anybody else living vicariously through Leicester?

  • 164 hibbitt // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:53 PM

    Blackley and Brownlie
    dont think Mc had any input into the summer spend……..looks like he had a bit of say in january

  • 165 toonking // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:58 PM

    If they do win this game I’m going to use a half newcastle half leicester badge as my facebook admin the rest of this season.
    I’m supporting them all the way and want them to win the title basically i’m a short term leicester city fan.

  • 166 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:59 PM

    SackSteveMcClaren ?@SackSMcClaren · 30s30 seconds ago

    Next #nufc manager odds:

    Brendan Rodgers 7/4
    David Moyes 4/1
    Nigel Pearson 10/1
    Rafa Benitez 14/1
    Michael Laudrup 14/1
    Harry Redknapp 16/1

  • 167 Jail for Ashley // Feb 14, 2016 at 12:59 PM

    Sometimes hard to separate sarcasm, do you honestly claim Carver kept us up, technically he did but…

  • 168 hibbitt // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:01 PM

    Take A Chancel On Me
    i don’t think they are up to it i think if ash wants to stay in the prem he should sack all 3 but i do believe charnley and carr arn’t up to there jobs and should be first out the door they were the one’s who picked Mc

  • 169 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:02 PM

    Toon kk
    I was saying last night that we have no leaders. After the first goal went in, there’s no reaction from anyone. And the next. And the next. Peter Schmeichel would’ve pointed the finger and chewed his team mates heads off before tge first one. Ferguson would’ve put their heads on spikes in the dressing room. Schmeichel and Ferguson were winners. We are losers.

  • 170 Thump // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:02 PM

    @Chancel: I’d take each and every one of them over Schteve and I would have in the summer too. He was never the right man for the job, he was just the cheapest option.

  • 171 toon kk // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:03 PM

    Take a chance
    Although I agree Mc seems to have a trouble motivating our team, but let’s not forget we basically have no defence, not of any quality anyway.
    Colo shouldn’t be playing anymore never mind a captain. Saylor also way past it.
    In Macca’s defence what is he dealing with? Do those players have the right mind or attitude to be motivated? I’m not so sure.
    They can’t work as a team, just individuals.

  • 172 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:03 PM

    And Roy Keane. He wouldn’t have put up with that shit yesterday.

  • 173 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:05 PM


    me too

    Toon KK

    Maybe but a decent manager can galvanise individuals into a team

  • 174 toonking // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:08 PM

    nice dive

  • 175 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:12 PM

    What a crap ref

  • 176 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:12 PM

    Yes. Ed likes to throw shit at Carver at rvery opportunity. He shows no appreciation of the difficulty of his task after King Percy bailed out and he was thrown in at the deep end. Carver had Williamson while Makro has Mbemba but both defences are shit. And what were Carver’s options up front? This season with all the money spent shows how difficult was Carver’s task. Ed changes like the wind. The only thing he is consistent about is his vilification of Carver.

  • 177 Hail Wor Ashley // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:12 PM

    Danny Simpson the pillock, putting Leicester’s win in peril.

  • 178 toonking // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:12 PM

    looks like it could be arsenals game now.

  • 179 Toon Tang // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:12 PM

    Simpson red eh. Leicester will certain win this now being down to 10. Just sit in and Ars won’t be able to break it down.

  • 180 Toon Tang // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:13 PM

    Just keep countering and its in the bag.

  • 181 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:17 PM

    Terrible refereeing in the Arsenal-Leicester match

  • 182 nufconceandfuturekings // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:18 PM


    Blind Terror
    High Noon
    Cape Fear
    The Man Who Smiled Too Much

  • 183 SPRINGY // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:19 PM

    take a chancel
    i cant see macca being sacked, even tho he’s not good enough for the job,and to be honest cant see many if any managers wanting to come in now anyway…..i think the only way macca leaves is if we go down.

  • 184 toonking // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:19 PM

    leicester do have a break so even though having 10 men could make them more tired they’ll have a week off and know the next game shouldn’t be too much trouble.

  • 185 Tsunki // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:20 PM

    “The Man Who Knew Too Little”

    Take your pick of personnel at nufc. I’d say The Big Guy

  • 186 John Akomfrah // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:20 PM

    Crazy world of footy leicester win the league and three solid clubs with great history fall us included

  • 187 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:22 PM


    I see what you mean but I do hope you are wrong, no offence

  • 188 Jail for Ashley // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:23 PM

    He lost eight gaes in a row and didn’t reach the benchmark 40 points, other teams kept us up!

  • 189 SPRINGY // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:25 PM

    leicester deserve a lot of praise really coz this run they are started this time last year when pearson was in charge….but they’ve not just sat back and said right were safe they’ve pushed on ranieri has done a good job keeping the momentum going but the players and pearson deserve the credit….strong of mind and physically willing to graft….2 things our lot are woefully short of unfortunately.

  • 190 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:26 PM


    We need to follow the Leicester mould

  • 191 SPRINGY // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:26 PM

    take a chancel
    so do i mate tbh

  • 192 Hail Wor Ashley // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:28 PM

    Ah, bollocks.

  • 193 Toon Tang // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:29 PM

    Ars Holes

  • 194 Ron Knee // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:29 PM

    Let’s see how Leicester react to that.

  • 195 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:29 PM

    The Ref has handed this game to Arsenal

  • 196 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:30 PM

    thought Carver did OK with his hands tied behind his back and a string of injuries
    NO defence and only Cisse up-front who was injured half the time.

    I still wouldn’t get rid of Mclaren – reason being these pillocks would take another month of negotiations to get some-one in and that is a month wasted.

    Anyway yesterday’s humiliation coming so soon after the Everton humiliation and a the training camp break out of the country will be the turning point of the season…

    Hopefully angry words are exchanged from both sides and clear the air talks – might concentrate their minds on the SH•T we are in and if they are up for the fight or just meekly give up the Premiership.

  • 197 Jail for Ashley // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:30 PM

    What’s the Leicester .ould

  • 198 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:32 PM


    Look how Leicester performed back end of last season and this season. that’s how we need to play

  • 199 SPRINGY // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:33 PM

    the players are not smart enough to be strong minded,willing enough to graft,to learn from mistakes…..big ego’s….bunch of big time charlies think they are better then what they are and macca does’nt have presence or the spine to lay into these players….we may well have good players but they sometimes look lazy,stupid and uninterested in giving everything on the pitch as well disorganised

  • 200 WWSBRD // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:34 PM

    Carver was a mug but I still think he’s alright personally I don’t blame him for last season he wasn’t and isn’t a manager

    I truly don’t know what a manager has to do to get the sack working for Ashley though they seem utterly untouchable which is terrifying

  • 201 toonking // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:35 PM

    not what I want to happen but they should just put this result to one side they got the unexpected 3 points against city and will remain 2 points ahead and should see the gap widen by winning the fixtures coming up.

  • 202 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:37 PM

    Carver picked up 13 vital points. You’re not telling us he had anything but a poor squad, are you? Or that King Percy would’ve done much better in those games?

  • 203 Lindisfarne // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:38 PM

    Watching Leicester and thinking I would rather see two banks of four than poor porous playing on the front foot.

  • 204 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:38 PM

    Carver makes McClaren look like a tactical genius. we have had a succession of shit managers!

  • 205 Lindisfarne // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:41 PM

    I hope the following 18 days of ‘work’ include a daily session of four & four against 11.

  • 206 hibbitt // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:42 PM

    Take A Chancel On Me /
    do you think the players should take any blame or do you put it all on Mc’s head

  • 207 toonking // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:43 PM

    oh thought that was a loss.

  • 208 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:44 PM

    That’s what I’m trying to say to Ed, who changesvlike the wind on everything except Carver. Thecrecord shows he kept a very poor squad up. Ed is great at applying hindsight to everything, most recently our transfer window success or otherwise, but cannot bring himself do reappraise Carver’s tenure in the light of this season’s events.

  • 209 Hail Wor Ashley // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:44 PM

    Howay Leicester. One last Huth hoof and Vardy on the end of it.

  • 210 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:44 PM


    I think it’s very 60/40 McClaren is tactically inept and cannot motivate the team. If you are picking the wrong players, playing in the wrong position and unable to motivate them then you should be gone.

  • 211 Jail for Ashley // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:45 PM

    Hypothetical as we don’t know how Pardew would have done, but if we base it on the first half of the season which was shite btw we would have got more than 13 points

  • 212 Hail Wor Ashley // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:46 PM

    Kasper really has become the image of his dad. World-class save that.

  • 213 toonking // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:47 PM

    come on leister just stoppage time remaining

  • 214 toonking // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:47 PM

    oops RH will be upset

  • 215 toonking // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:52 PM

    right at the very last second

  • 216 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:53 PM

    Lucky old Arsenal

  • 217 toonking // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:53 PM

    didn’t even look like a freekick mind

  • 218 Hail Wor Ashley // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:54 PM

    Leicester are made of stern stuff. They’re gonna win the title despite that.

    Ref gave Arsenal every chance he could. 10 v 12 for the 2nd half. Probably fearing he got it wrong for Leicester’s pen and decided he was gonna help Arsenal to ‘make amends’.

  • 219 reilly // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:54 PM

    thats cruel

  • 220 Thump // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:54 PM

    Absolutely gutted for Leicester.

  • 221 Hail Wor Ashley // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:55 PM

    Hate that cesspit they call London and all the twats from there.

  • 222 Toon Tang // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:55 PM

    Go to the bog, come back and bloody big gun welbeck has won it. chuffs sakes man

  • 223 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:56 PM

    We don’t know. We can only speculate. If Percy had stayed and had the same record as Carver, no one would say there was anything out of the ordinary in that. Most would’ve said it was wholly predictable. All I’m saying is that Ed changes like the wind with the benefit of hindsight. But he can’t bring himself to reappraise Carver in the light of this season. He should remember Carver kept us up while the man and the new squad which Ed was confidently backing in the summer look very much like taking us down.

  • 224 Lindisfarne // Feb 14, 2016 at 1:57 PM

    Wasilewski is a spanner

  • 225 Toon Tang // Feb 14, 2016 at 2:00 PM

    Villa to beat Liverpool now

  • 226 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Feb 14, 2016 at 2:03 PM

    You got to give Arsenal credit as well. Trey really controlled the game I think.

    …and with all that cheap foreign import 😉

  • 227 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Feb 14, 2016 at 2:04 PM


  • 228 Rotonda heights // Feb 14, 2016 at 2:05 PM

    hail wor ashley

    glad you’re not one to make sweeping statements or generalisations like.

  • 229 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Feb 14, 2016 at 2:08 PM

    So what you ppl say first three fixtures in the championship.

    I say two draws and a loss.

  • 230 Rotonda heights // Feb 14, 2016 at 2:08 PM


    I’m a bit torn really as I love the way arsenal play, but you’ve got to love old ranieri too for what he’s doing and has done this season and that was cruel on them.

  • 231 Jail for Ashley // Feb 14, 2016 at 2:09 PM

    You really are a nasty piece of work aren’t you!

  • 232 toon kk // Feb 14, 2016 at 2:09 PM

    I wonder what our flops think when they watch other games and see other players working hard and fighting for 90 plus minutes to at least get something out of the game?
    I suppose they know Macca doesn’t mind too much.

  • 233 Ron Knee // Feb 14, 2016 at 2:12 PM

    I’ve been cheering on NUFC and Leicester with disastrous results so: come on, Villa!

  • 234 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 14, 2016 at 2:14 PM

    Toon kk
    Yeah, Makro is calm and relaxed.

  • 235 Jail for Ashley // Feb 14, 2016 at 2:14 PM

    Let’s not turn this in to a three day debate, I say the best that can be said is that he never took us down, you say he kept us up. I suppose we’re both right.

  • 236 Rotonda heights // Feb 14, 2016 at 2:15 PM


    But carver told us he was the best coach in the league so I just expected so much more lol !

    it’s funny how injuries mysteriously clear up when a good manager , ie a KK positive type comes in.

  • 237 andrew84 // Feb 14, 2016 at 2:17 PM

    Have to agree with Blackley& Brownlie, Ed’s opinion of McClaren was high as a kite at the beginning of the season (just after we appointed him), whereas for weeks previously he had been saying how virtually anyone (apart from Carver) was a better choice. Now he’s as bad as Carver again.

  • 238 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 14, 2016 at 2:21 PM

    nice goal liverpool

  • 239 Ron Knee // Feb 14, 2016 at 2:22 PM

    A defence worthy of NUFC.

  • 240 Rotonda heights // Feb 14, 2016 at 2:24 PM

    i think the biggest joke of all is that we allegedly spend lots of time vetting players’ character and temperament. Really!!!!

    Not sure how laziness, lack of desire, lack of commitment etc has been bypassed as a prerequisite for so many of our signings.

  • 241 2 goals 1 cup // Feb 14, 2016 at 2:25 PM

    the way i see it we were always going to lose at Chelsea its just losing 5.1 thats hard to take. its so frustrating watching newcastle this season i see the potential but now were running out of time could i new manerger kick start are season would love to see roy keane come even hoddle still think hoddle has a lot to offer

  • 242 toon kk // Feb 14, 2016 at 2:26 PM

    We’ll have a good game with Villa in the championship next season. Not alot between us.

  • 243 Toon Tang // Feb 14, 2016 at 2:28 PM

    Just waiting for a mild southeasterly breeze to take sturridge out for the season.

    Ol’ wet newspaper muscles

  • 244 toonking // Feb 14, 2016 at 2:30 PM

    hopefully spurs city will get a draw if a win were to happen i’d ask for city to get it more than spurs because between now and leicester city’s 3 difficult fixtures city have got the hard fixture list and still need to play arsenal so will make one of the two drop points.

    between now and leicester’s match against united

    leicester city
    norwich H should be an easy win
    west brom H again should get a win even we were made to look great
    watford A could be easier than it would be playing home as watford will be more attacking giving leicester more chances to break
    ourselves H- win for them
    palace A- easy win
    southmpton H- should get a win
    scumsA-probably the hardest of the lot being away and knowing scums fight for suvival
    west ham H- should get a win out of this game
    swansea H- can see a win all aut how well they break swansea down

    united A- draw win loss comes down to united and how arsenal feel after CL
    swanseaH-easy win
    spurs A- L spurs are favourites and great form at the minute
    west brom H- win
    everton H -based on evertons home record might see arsenal win
    watford H-win
    west ham A- could get a win
    palace H- easy win
    scums A- again like leicester, so a win is possible but fighting for relegation will make things harder

    liverpool A- based on current away form should be a loss
    villaH- easy win
    Norwich A- expect a win but away form might tell a different story
    united H-win
    bournemouth A-should be 3 points but the suvival fight and city’s away form might mean loss
    west brom H- easy win
    chelki A- defeat is in the sight a the minute and chelsk will be battling to get as high as they can
    stoke H- again looks an easy win
    ourselves A- given our defence should be a win

    swansea H- easy win
    west ham A- should get the win
    arsenal H- win
    villa A-win anyday
    bournemouth H-win
    liverpool A- see a draw
    manure H-win
    stoke A-win
    west brom H- win

  • 245 Hail Wor Ashley // Feb 14, 2016 at 2:30 PM


    You gone soft, or is that your JfA side speaking? Mister Tuff will soon be making an appearance to readdress the balance no doubt…


    I know it wouldn’t take long to find an example of just that from you. So wind it in eh? Suppose you’re just one of those twats!

  • 246 Ron Knee // Feb 14, 2016 at 2:30 PM

    Villa’s defence has been taking a few pointers from ours.

  • 247 Toon Tang // Feb 14, 2016 at 2:31 PM

    The manner at which Norwich managed to climb out the relegation zone was deflating also.

  • 248 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 14, 2016 at 2:32 PM

    Jail @235
    If you’re agreeing with me, then yeah, you are right. Haha.

  • 249 toonbrother // Feb 14, 2016 at 2:33 PM

    in all humility i think its fair to say toonbrother is the most astute contributor to nufcblog

    i was the only one with the foresight to predict we were in for another relegation dogfight following the closure of the summer transfer window. This despite the fact we had just spent £50M on new players. I was pilloried for my views but i stuck to my guns and was proven right

    I was the only one with the wisdom and courage to point out we failed to buy a single defender – our biggest area of weakness- in the january window while folks like ED were celebrating the pointless acquisition of players like shelvey and townsend. I was demonized for my views but i stuck to my guns and have been proven right once aagin

    Its a crying shame mclaren doesnt have toonbrother advising him. if he did we’d be in a much healthier position right. A damn shame!

  • 250 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 14, 2016 at 2:34 PM

    Toonbrother you are just a wum

  • 251 toonking // Feb 14, 2016 at 2:36 PM

    leicester 8 wins 1 draw
    arse 6 wins 2 draws 1 defeat
    city 7 wins 2 draws 1 defeat
    spurs 8 wins 1 draw

  • 252 lochinvar // Feb 14, 2016 at 2:36 PM

    Villa two down to Liverpool , so that’s a small help , so far

  • 253 Jail for Ashley // Feb 14, 2016 at 2:38 PM

    You weren’t the only one who wasn’t happy with the Collo situation but you are the only one who lol’s after every defeat.
    Haven’t gone soft pal, don’t need to be soft to understand what you’re all about. A moaner who moans about moaners while constantly bitching and moaning. A bona-fide hypocritical moaner!

  • 254 Rotonda heights // Feb 14, 2016 at 2:38 PM

    whumpie at 133

    leicester kind of give the lie to the theory you have to spend a lot

  • 255 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 14, 2016 at 2:40 PM

    I can’t believe the stupid stuff Carver would come out with. But King Percy and Makro still take some beating. I mean Makro doesn’t need to say anything to have you tearing your hair out. He just needs to grin inanely. And when he does open his gob, it’s to tell us it’s not a usual performance for us; it’s to say he’s calm and relaxed; the last 12 games are cup finals (we usually can’t get past the first round); and to say we were unable to deal with the ball. A supposedly top coach admitting that his players are unable to deal with the ball. You couldn’t make it up.

  • 256 Rotonda heights // Feb 14, 2016 at 2:43 PM


    you were the only one were you? so all the people’s opinions who were less than impressed with SM as a managerial appointment don’t count. I knew it would all end in tears with SM, as did a lot of other people. Hardly astute, just obvious.

  • 257 21st Century Schizoid Man // Feb 14, 2016 at 2:45 PM

    BandB .. 21st will do as it is a multiple of my next birthday. Schizoid if yer gonna do a put down. Reckon it is a zeitgeist kind of moniker.

    Hibbitt – yes, totally agree with those points about Charnley and Carr. It is like having a house fall down and using the same builders again.

    Blackley .. Carver kept us up by default, not by his strategic skills or charm as a coach and team manager.
    Painting him as better than Macca, just to do Macca down is simplistic.
    Tufty had to pick up the fragments of a losing side with low confidence and poor work ethic, try to put together random pieces of the jigsaw puzzle that is Carr’s recruitment, and build a team of ill fitting parts, on the highly dodgy foundations of our pathetic defence.
    I agree he is not up to it, mostly because of the 3-5-2 away from home which is pisspoor tactically and his inability to motivate the players to anything approaching consistency. Mind you the Everton and Chelsea games were pretty consistent.

    Thinking hard about it, I’d probably take a risk on Brendan, (and it is a risk) but I’d be tempted to bring in ‘Arry til the end of the season as players seem to work hard for him, whatever their ability level.

  • 258 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 14, 2016 at 2:45 PM

    You weren’t the only one. And I have stood up for you on numerous occasions against all the criticism. To be fair, it doesn’t take much to realise that if you have a shit defence and a shit attack and you do next to nothing to strengthen it, you’re going to perform worse than you did the season before.

  • 259 Rotonda heights // Feb 14, 2016 at 2:45 PM


    it is indeed an inane grin which is really starting to grate.

  • 260 21st Century Schizoid Man // Feb 14, 2016 at 2:47 PM

    Font of all knowledge and ITK doing an “I told you so” isn’t your normal style. Have you been frapped ?

    If you read back, most of the blog were shaking their heads in disbelief that we hadn’t got a CB or LB.

  • 261 toon kk // Feb 14, 2016 at 2:49 PM

    Our destiny is in our own hands and we shouldn’t be relying on other results. But
    We’ve been pi55 poor for a long time and we’re doomed I’m afraid no matter how other results go.

  • 262 Jail for Ashley // Feb 14, 2016 at 2:50 PM

    When 21st century schizoid used my phrase hapless tuft I thought something was up. So come on, who is you’re former username, people simply don’t say yer.

  • 263 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 14, 2016 at 2:52 PM

    21 Century

    Blackley .. Carver kept us up by default, not by his strategic skills or charm as a coach and team manager.
    Painting him as better than Macca, just to do Macca down is simplistic.


    What do you mean by he kept us up by default? By default? What has charm as a coach got to do with it? Your strategic skills only count for so much when you’ve got a shit squad. Any manager will tell you that. And I’m not painting him as better than Makro. I’m just saying to Ed that he should cut Carver some slack now that he has the benefit of hindsight and he is always wise after the event.

  • 264 Jail for Ashley // Feb 14, 2016 at 2:59 PM

    If we were certain for relegation and a manager comes in and alters the course then you could say he kept us up, were we not tenth when he took over?

  • 265 ilovetoon8788 // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:00 PM

    How on earth was mcclown smiling in the post match interview after that shower of sheite?

    No wonder our players have no respect nor bother to listen to him. A joke.

  • 266 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:02 PM


    Wouldn’t it be more apt to say Carver nearly took us down rather than he kept us up? we were 9th or 10th when JC took over

  • 267 Transfer Sage // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:03 PM

    Well yesterday wasn’t a surprise at all. We are dreadful and have been like that away from home all season.

    They need to make a change if they want us to stay up otherwise we have no chance. There must be options out there who are better, especially with premier league rates for wages.

  • 268 toonbrother // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:04 PM

    you are the only other contributor to this blog whose intellect i rate

  • 269 Jail for Ashley // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:04 PM

    Most definitely

  • 270 Jail for Ashley // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:05 PM

    Ha ha ha ha lol lol pmsl ha ha ha ha nwms

  • 271 ilovetoon8788 // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:06 PM

    Chronical has reports saying shelvey was arguing with mclaren and Simpson during the match. Mclaren should just resign but he’s too thick for that.

  • 272 Transfer Sage // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:06 PM

    I don’t know if the players are lazy or just totally lack inspiration playing under the last few managers we have.

    I know plenty of people in all types of work (especially creative sectors) who when they feel stifled do nothing more than the bare minimum and go through the motions. It’s nothing intentional but if you don’t believe in your manager and his/her plans then it’s very difficult to perform at a high level consistently as you can feel defeated.

    I think we need to look for a guy like pochetinno who has the ability to make players want to work, to buy into his high tempo, high pressure game and really give him everything they have.

  • 273 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:07 PM


    I completely agree with you

  • 274 toon kk // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:09 PM

    What I couldn’t believe yesterday is just how poor Chelsea made us look, Willian made Tiote look like a part time Sunday league amateur. In every position we were totally oot classed.
    Forget about Macca being sacked, no manager can change a squad that lacks so much quality in key areas.
    Of course Carver was a major mistake but we haven’t got the right player’s to stop conceding.

  • 275 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:11 PM

    Toon KK

    We need a manager who knows how to play the correct formations with the tools at his disposal, McClaren is inept and useless

  • 276 Hail Wor Ashley // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:12 PM


    Hahaha -, veeery rich coming from you. Can’t be serious. Do you have zero self-awareness?

  • 277 Ron Knee // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:13 PM


    Shelvey for player-manager, then!

  • 278 Ron Knee // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:14 PM


    Tools is the word!

  • 279 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:18 PM

    It depends on whether you think, in judging our squad and looking at our remaining fixtures, that we were comfortably going to survive. I recall Percy would win a few, then lose a whole lot more. I could easily see him following a similar course to Carver. I’d suggest Percy could too and that played a large part in his jumping from a big ship to a lifeboat.

  • 280 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:21 PM

    Nice goal from Can

  • 281 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:21 PM

    Villa make us look like world beaters

  • 282 toon kk // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:22 PM

    Take a chance
    Maybe so, a new manager is needed.
    But what “tools” would you play in defence to make a difference?

  • 283 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:23 PM

    279 was in response to you too.

  • 284 Ron Knee // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:23 PM


    I’d still rather have Garde than McClaren.

  • 285 Jail for Ashley // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:24 PM

    Pardew had 25 points from 20 games so going on thst we might have had 42-50 points. We never even hit the benchmark 40 with Carver, had Hull beaten an already relegated Burnley at home which they really should have we’d have been gone as the physiological effect would have been too much

  • 286 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:25 PM


    We should have comfortably survived, Carver was utterly useless

  • 287 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:27 PM

    Toon KK

    Mbemba will be back for our next game and so should dummet


  • 288 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:28 PM

    We deffo look better than Villa

  • 289 anthc // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:28 PM

    I bet all those villa fans tweeting about us yesterday feel a bit silly now. 0-5 at home!
    Oh dear!

  • 290 welshgeordie9 // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:28 PM

    Mcclaren has got to be the worse Newcastle manager ever, bring back kinnear, ffs.

  • 291 Jail for Ashley // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:28 PM

    Ron Knee,
    So would I, they had nothing to lose by appointing him last January, he simply couldn’t have been worse than Carver who despite his best efforts never took us down. If he was as bad as Carver we could have sacked him and then brought the hapless tuft in to ensure our demise.

  • 292 welshgeordie9 // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:30 PM

    So the next time fans boo and chant manager out, do me a favour.


  • 293 WWSBRD // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:31 PM

    Villa are doing us a favour bless them now we are only the second worst in the league

  • 294 Toon Tang // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:31 PM

    Liverpool score 5 with no reply and are still only on 0 goal difference.

  • 295 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:32 PM

    As much as I despise Macca I do think we will stay up

    Villa are down
    Scum will go down
    Norwich will lose most of their remaining games
    Swansea will be in the mix
    Bournemouth will be in the mix
    Palace are dropping like a stone

  • 296 jane // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:33 PM

    15:25 ‘Man City need to win’
    Man City v Tottenham (16:15 GMT)

    Former Newcastle manager John Carver: “If Manchester City have got pretensions of winning the Premier League then they have to win this game today but they have got problems in central defence.

    “I experienced (a similar situation to Manchester City boss Manuel Pellegrini when I was at Newcastle). All the rumours were going around that Steve McClaren was taking over in the summer and it does affect you.”

  • 297 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:33 PM

    We can speculate all we like. The record shows we survived with a very poor squad. We’ve spent £80m and we’re shite so was does that tell you about last season’s squad?

  • 298 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:33 PM

    yup villa are worse than us

  • 299 toon kk // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:34 PM

    Take a chance
    Still week for the premier league mate.
    Championship maybe.
    Look at the table we’re on a par with Villa that’s why we drew with them.
    Players blaming each other.

  • 300 jane // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:34 PM

    very poor defending by Villa for number 6

  • 301 Fabricio - out of position - Coloccini // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:35 PM

    Villa is pathetic. Can you believe it…? It actually is a defence worse than ours!!

  • 302 Transfer Sage // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:37 PM


    Exactly…we’ve spent a fortune but not many of those players improved us. Mitrovic isn’t better than what we had currently, he may get better.

    Nothing has improved in defence.

    We have bought shelvey who I think is an improvement on what we had in the middle of the park and wijnaldum is better than others when he turns up but lacks consistency.

    I thought with January we would offer more of a threat so we’d be able to improve our defence by keeping the ball better and taking the attack to the opposition…I was very wrong.

  • 303 Toon Tang // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:37 PM

    Liverpool nearly matching our away goal tally for the season in one game.

    What an absolute farce.

  • 304 WWSBRD // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:38 PM

    Swansea fan trying to tell Newcastle fans how to deal with Newcastle matters…interesting I suppose but I don’t let other mags tell me how to support my club never mind someone from another teams support

  • 305 Ron Knee // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:38 PM


    Garde was left in the lurch by Villa’s management.

  • 306 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:41 PM

    Poor old Carver was written off and under pressure long before his 18 games were up too. 18 games! He filled in and kept us up. Ed uses every opportunity to knock him even now when it’s Makro making a similar mess with a much stronger squad and Carver has long been history.

  • 307 Moonraker15 // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:41 PM

    The writing was on the wall when Wally gave Colo a new contract and the captaincy last summer.
    3 questions that are almost unbelievable at this level.
    1. How can we still have the two centre backs who were in the last relegation team?
    2. How can any coach play a young inexperienced winger at full back against one of the most lethal forwards in the PL ?
    3. How the fcuk did we beat Spurs away, and why did Wally not apply those same tactics against Chelsea even though some of the players were not available?

  • 308 Toon Tang // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:43 PM

    Fans walkout on 77′ and villa to draw is still on the cards

  • 309 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:43 PM

    Surely there are some defensive free agents we can sign?

  • 310 carl // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:44 PM

    jail For Ashley
    When not trying to be funny you’re hilarious.
    I like your Hapless Tuff, says it all.

  • 311 toon kk // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:45 PM

    People saying villas defence is worse than ours, there’s very little between the two clubs in goal difference.
    Tells a story.

  • 312 jane // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:46 PM

    Pardew would have done better than Carver and McClaren if you ask me if that’s any consolation. not a fan of Carver and McClaren they don’t know how to setup a team playing away against a better team. naïve.

  • 313 Ron Knee // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:47 PM

    Toon Tang

    This is the team we couldn’t beat at home!

  • 314 carl // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:47 PM

    Ashley’s put the money in and Carr and Charnley have wasted it.

  • 315 Jail for Ashley // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:48 PM

    We weren’t going down, how did he keep us up in the way you descibe it. We are now third bottom and look very much like we are going down, if a new manager comes in now you could say he kept us up. To say Carver nearly relegated is so much more appropriate than he kept us up.

  • 316 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:49 PM

    We couldn’t beat Villa at home but beat Liverpool, I can’t make head nor tail of that!!!

  • 317 Jail for Ashley // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:49 PM

    carl etc,
    You’re spellings improving!

  • 318 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:50 PM


    I agree with you there and we also need to bring the manager in to keep us up!

  • 319 bettyswallocks // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:50 PM

    If we accept that last seasons squad wasn’t fit for purpose then it was always going to take time to rebuild it.
    The problem with Mc C is that he has good ideas about how he would like the team to play, with players comfortable on the ball and looking to get it up the pitch quickly , but He isn’t the right man to get us grinding out results with a strong team spirit.
    We are still lacking in key areas , without a recognised , experienced goal scorer and other than Mbemba no decent CB’s.
    He has had all season to decide what is needed and I still think Gini , Shelvey and Townsend were good solid signings Sanctioned by him.
    The problem is we are now in a position where we need to grind out some results rather than implement a playing style where results follow on.
    I can see his line of thought playing Aarons as a wing back, the idea of him bombing up the wing if he can improve defensively does seem appealing as he has all the attributes. However this is a work in progress and we can’t be experimenting with those things at this stage of the season.

  • 320 carl // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:52 PM

    The first to go should be the dof Carr. Made far too many expensive mistakes. He should have come up with a number of defenders at a good price. Buy one get one free and still have improved the defence. Most of us could have scouted the likes of Townsend ,Shelvey.

  • 321 WWSBRD // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:54 PM

    Sherwood until summer anyone?

  • 322 Ron Knee // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:54 PM

    The ref has mercy on Villa. Only three minutes added.

  • 323 Jail for Ashley // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:57 PM

    No mate!

  • 324 Thump // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:57 PM

    Was Villa trying to outdo us or…?

  • 325 Rotonda heights // Feb 14, 2016 at 3:59 PM

    er…no lol !!

  • 326 toon kk // Feb 14, 2016 at 4:00 PM

    We’re on a par with Villa, two pathetic teams together. Both are a embarrassment to their fans. We get a good game with each other.

  • 327 WWSBRD // Feb 14, 2016 at 4:01 PM

    Haha he is naff I know but he’s good at getting a team to believe in themselves and he can get a striker scoring

    King of the new manager lift long term he is very much found out but I actually think he would get enough wins to keep us up

  • 328 Rotonda heights // Feb 14, 2016 at 4:02 PM


    looking at CP’s 7 losses in 8 and 1 win in 9, i don’t think so.

  • 329 JackButler // Feb 14, 2016 at 4:06 PM

    Interesting to see what has happened at Leicester, after being relegation candidates last season, they have spent a fraction of what has been spent here and yet they are real title contenders while we are still relegation fodder, but I guess that’s what can happen when you have the right people making the right decisions.

  • 330 Rotonda heights // Feb 14, 2016 at 4:07 PM


    ash may have put money in but it’s him who appoints these endless succession of unqualified no marks, has beens and never wassers.

  • 331 Jail for Ashley // Feb 14, 2016 at 4:08 PM

    Your dislike of Pardew clouds your judgement, he might be shite but is better than this hapless tuft and that moron Carver by a long shot.

  • 332 bettyswallocks // Feb 14, 2016 at 4:09 PM

    Jack B……. Their success is all based on getting the ball up the pitch quickly, but you still need someone to put it in the net.

  • 333 Jail for Ashley // Feb 14, 2016 at 4:11 PM

    Fair play to Leicester and I sincerely hope they do it but nobody could have forseen that, one pundit described it as madness to sack Pearson and bring in the tinkerman.

  • 334 Rotonda heights // Feb 14, 2016 at 4:11 PM

    welsh at 292

    yeah cos AP and JC were doing such a bang up job. honestly what a numpty. we just swapped one s—e manager for another is all.

  • 335 hibbitt // Feb 14, 2016 at 4:14 PM

    so who’s out the door first Charnley / Carr or Mc……….bearing in mind Charnley / Carr would possibly pick the next manager ????

  • 336 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 14, 2016 at 4:15 PM

    I hear what you’re saying. I can’t add any more to what I’ve said. I can only repeat that we clearly had a very poor squad. Between Pardew and Carver we managed to stay up. How can Ed continually bang on about Carver when he was thrown in for 18 games and kept a very sorry bunch of someone else’s misfits in the top flight?

  • 337 toonluvva // Feb 14, 2016 at 5:01 PM

    Einstein said it best.
    Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result.

    All of the power to make changes still lies with the people who continue to make a complete dogs breakfast of things.

    Do you expect Mr Charnley movinng to replace McClaren? after all, he appointed him.

    Is there any pressure on Carr to change his strategy on scouting?

    The only pressure is on Mr Ashley. Relegation will hit him in the wallet. No big money in the championship. No more being paid to advertise SD!

    Unfortunately he is the man who appointed Carr and Charnley. The question is whether he will move quickly enough to protect his investment.

    If he does and removes McClaren and Charnley, what calibre of replacements will he bring in?

  • 338 lochinvar // Feb 14, 2016 at 6:12 PM

    Well at least we can rely on the Mirror to publish a well crafted and incisive report on yesterday’s shambles
    “Former Newcastle ace Faustino Asprilla labels Toon a ‘f****** joke’ during Chelsea humbling”

  • 339 Toon Tang // Feb 14, 2016 at 6:45 PM

    Just seen the spuds score. The plot further thickens eh

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