Steve McClaren To Have A Big Rethink


Steve McClaren admits he may have to have a big rethink on how he has Newcastle play away from home and who he will play on the road in the remaining six vital away games left this season.

Our away record is simply pathetic with just two wins in 13 attempts on the road and only 7 goals scored and only 7 points gained and 10 defeats.

And in three of those games we have conceded a massive 16 goals including six at Manchester City and five at both Crystal Palace and at Chelsea last Saturday.

We have failed to even score in seven away games this season.

steve mcclaren - cheslea had just equalized

Steve McClaren to have a big rethink about away games

If we cannot get at least a couple of wins in those six remaining road games we could take the drop this season.

And four of our next six league games are away from home.

🙁

This is what McClaren has said about the road games:

“We need to start collecting points away from home because winning at home but then losing away is not going to be good enough,”

“We have to find a way to win away from home because, at the moment, that’s not happening.” “If that’s a different approach, or different personnel, then we’ll have to do that.”

“It might mean a different way of playing.” “That’s why we are where we are – we’re inconsistent,” 

“There’s a lot of games where we’ve kind of performed but not scored goals, but we’re losing games because we’re not scoring enough goals and we’re not keeping clean sheets.

“We have to somehow solve that.”

Our record this season is the worst it’s ever been after 26 games played in the Premier League.

24 points and we are 4 points behind where we were even in our relegations season seven years ago.

Newcastle must start winning games otherwise we will take the drop and it will be a complete and utter disaster for the club and all those associated with it.

Fact.

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101 comments so far

  • WWSBRD

    Feb 15, 2016 at 9:16 AM

    Comment #1

    Damnit thought it would be his career choice….that was mean wasnt it

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  • magscar

    Feb 15, 2016 at 9:19 AM

    Comment #2

    WWRSBD
    Last thread

    I think there are some very difficult decisions to be made with players coming back. A manager has to be strong and take dressing room with him or at least the leaders. Signs are not looking good that should he drop any of Sissoko,Coloccini,Gini which he arguably could that he will carry the day. On our run in we need a together squad and normally the Captain is important to that. I am seeing signs that there may be a schism developing since new players such as Shelvey and Townsend arrived. Dressing room needs sorting out

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  • magscar

    Feb 15, 2016 at 9:22 AM

    Comment #3

    posted before finished

    …. McLaren has taken relatively easy decision of dropping Perez and Mitro but they are probably not the forces in the dressing room however much they may have smarted.

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  • magscar

    Feb 15, 2016 at 9:25 AM

    Comment #4

    Blusterman yes that has relevance in the NOW

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Feb 15, 2016 at 9:25 AM

    Comment #5

    Well at least he has finally realised he needs a rethink….. He needs to do it quick, 4 of our next 6 are away.

    Magscar,
    Very true, he has dropped players that are easy for him to drop, whereas others seem to get selected regardless. Neither Mitro or Perez will rock the boat if dropped, it is the cowards way out, rather than really addressing any problems.

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  • WWSBRD

    Feb 15, 2016 at 9:26 AM

    Comment #6

    magscar
    Sadly I think ur right

    I also dont think the players have much faith in McClarens decision making after the last game during the first 20 minutes they kept looking to the bench for help or instructions and nothing came

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  • magscar

    Feb 15, 2016 at 9:31 AM

    Comment #7

    Lilo

    That was the reason I also referenced England as he couldn’t make the difficult decisions then either.

    Trouble is the approach of tougher managers like Alladyce, Pulis can irretrievably upset some of the softer types and we may have too many of those to keep happy. As many have said we lack leaders and fighters who would sort dressing room out when things get tough.

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  • Tsunki

    Feb 15, 2016 at 9:32 AM

    Comment #8

    magscar // Feb 15, 2016 at 8:39 AM

    Tsunki

    Is the apoplexy really necessary? Ashley is to blame overall for our current problems. I believe he even said something about where the buck stops.

    Apoplexy? Is that how it comes across? I too am an ‘older poster’. I fail to see how a call to wake up and smell the coffee amounts to a rage fuelled outburst. So you actually think that Ashley has to do no more than admit he’s the man who oversees this fiasco and that’s him absolved of all necessity to fundamentally change the methods that got us here? That’s a bit of an ostrich view imho. I thought I was just pointing out that talk of replacing coaches and office staff is not the real issue. The 100% owner has a remit to make himself richer through SD by making his cash cow crunch the expedient numbers, no waste, no frills, just get by on frugal means,and watch the cash roll in to this self sustaining shop while the advertising tool does it’s worldwide brand magic for his sports tat firm. Not apoplexy. Observation.

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  • magscar

    Feb 15, 2016 at 9:34 AM

    Comment #9

    WWRSBD

    Yes and there in features another problem of lacking an organiser on the pitch when things go awry. Shelvey may be the answer but can he temper his contributions and get others onside?

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  • beermonkey

    Feb 15, 2016 at 9:36 AM

    Comment #10

    magscar

    there is a lazy culture at the club its been allowed to grow and fester
    born from the attitude of not wanting to win and if we avoid relegation its ok

    how many times do you see the same faces walking back when we conceed, colo janmatt sissoko tiote, for me colo is the ring leader as when he goes missing those others are not far behind
    these players also know no matter how bad they are they will start the next game
    i dont think mclaren is strong enough to sort this but even if he wanted to drop them who can he play in there place

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  • Tsunki

    Feb 15, 2016 at 9:38 AM

    Comment #11

    If we are going to see any improvement at the club, the pressure needs to be on the man who calls the shots in recruitment. If nobody is knocking on Ashleys door he won’t feel the pressure.

    When you go into a store to complain about something you’ve bought and you get an operative who gives you a useless answer, who do you ask to see? The cleaner?

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  • nut meg

    Feb 15, 2016 at 9:40 AM

    Comment #12

    If we had addressed the problems with the defence in the summer we would’ve had stood a much better chance of keeping a clean sheet! Self inflicted wounds……zero sympathy from me.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Feb 15, 2016 at 9:40 AM

    Comment #13

    Mag,
    I’d rather he upset the soft under performing players and set up a team with tactics rather than 11 individuals. Couldn’t care less if they get the players get the hump, there are tens of thousands of fans being let down on an almost weekly basis by them.

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  • reilly

    Feb 15, 2016 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #14

    the club should scrap this jolly to spain,and get them down to whitley bay in the snow.

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  • bladeuser

    Feb 15, 2016 at 9:50 AM

    Comment #15

    the man’s a genius but mr wally you have won hardly any games at home either
    And he decides to put the away form right with 12 games left
    a few bloggers see relegation if it happens as one way of getting rod of that cancer ASHLEY and I thought so to
    but I think the fat oaf is going to hang on for years to come so I am afraid we are stuck with him but not with wally
    now I know it won’t happen and you know my stance on the sheep but the next home game SMAC needs to be hounded out because u know and I have known from day one this dinasaur is past it and he will be spouting his crap after the last game saying NUFC will bounce back from relegation
    But like I said loyal I will give you but along with fat oaf wally and all the other crap that is Nufc you lot are the pits with no greater example on Sat when you applauded them off after that inept shocking performance
    Some of you would have payed well over £100 to witness that shit and all you can do is put your hands together you really are pathetic mugs who deserve to see Nufc take on championship teams
    Applaud them if we lose and they have shown some fight but what the hell is wrong with you really think you are spending hundreds hours of your time getting up before daybreak in freezing conditions and you applaud a pathetic team who some will forget it as soon as they hit the club’s that same night aka Julian lesscot who tweeted a pic of his new sports car driving home from villas 6-0 defeat yesterday
    I do not want Newcastle United to go down but If it happens what I will take from it is not the deadwood being shipped out but you zombies having to follow them
    ASH OUT SMAC OUT COLO OUT SHEEP BAAAAAAAAAAH OUT

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Feb 15, 2016 at 9:55 AM

    Comment #16

    Will they sack him if he takes us down, probably not. Then he can carry his losing mentality from last season and this season into next. The guy is a shite house, after what he put Derby through he should have had the good grace to resign instead of hanging around for his failure payoff. The guy is a millionaire due to continued failure.

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  • AncientC

    Feb 15, 2016 at 9:57 AM

    Comment #17

    Like a monologue by Homer.

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  • magscar

    Feb 15, 2016 at 9:59 AM

    Comment #18

    Tsunki

    Can’t get cut and paste to work but your comment ” it is the NOW not THEN” or similar that was only missing the exclamation marks to make it leap off the page. I also smell the coffee by the way my olfactory senses are unimpaired with age.

    I believe in all the to and froing with a nemesis of yours you referenced your business credentials. So you can presumably agree that if you buy a business, put in place personnel that you believe can achieve your objectives (however limited or challenging) you can leave them to it largely while you get on with your real business but get progress reports.

    If things keep going pear shaped you might be loyal and retain them after a pep talk but if things don’t improve do you sack yourself as being the one who set it up or look to replace some of your failures when the opportunities arise. Rhetorical I know but you get my point.

    Ashley has belatedly opened the purse strings and must be assessing the Boards achievements since the televised Damascus moment. I don’t believe he is going to see it as a blip after years of underspending and he will be looking to apportion blame further from himself this time. Staying up might mellow him but another relegation fight will not be on the agenda – mid table rather than challenging higher OK but he won’t want to gamble with bottom half target as too close for comfort.

    We might see a root and branch review but the top of the tree will be making it and will survive for sure. Perhaps a tree surgeon in the form of a proper DOF is what he really needs to carry out the task

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Feb 15, 2016 at 10:01 AM

    Comment #19

    Beer,
    The players simply couldn’t have been unaware that club policy was to exit cups as soon as possible. This goes against the instinct of any athlete or sportsperson, they are born winners hence being at the top of their game while tens of thousands others don’t make it.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Feb 15, 2016 at 10:02 AM

    Comment #20

    magscar,
    Aiming for mid table when we should be aiming higher is what got us in this mess.

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  • magscar

    Feb 15, 2016 at 10:03 AM

    Comment #21

    Lilo@13

    Don’t disagree but can McClaren hack it?

    Tsunki@11

    Not the cleaner but as likely to be duty manager or store manager in any large organisation certainly not the owner.

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  • magscar

    Feb 15, 2016 at 10:08 AM

    Comment #22

    Jfa@19

    Cups in other countries don’t carry the profile they do here and even FA cup is not what it was to us old fogeys 🙂

    @20 yes probably right but in fact the aim was apparently top 8 so maybe look at Leicester and aim for title so we might get a CL place next season

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  • welshgeordie9

    Feb 15, 2016 at 10:13 AM

    Comment #23

    Bring back pardew, carver or even kinnear, anyone than this muppet.

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  • Ian Toon

    Feb 15, 2016 at 10:13 AM

    Comment #24

    Macca has failed to date to change the team’s losing mentality. Players need to take responsibility. Talk of looking to the bench- the answer was not to lose possession but show experience of what’s required in such situations and character. We passed the ball too slowly and inaccurately. We created our own problems and the goals conceded were self inflicted. We don’t need a poll to identify defensive weaknesses as they’ve been all to apparent for seasons.
    Time in Spain should be laboriously spent in drilling the defence and working on the need for movement off the ball and willing runners in midfield. Contrast our movement off the ball to Chelsea’s.
    Wijnaldum was the worst player on the field before removed. It’s often said that Sissoko always plays well in televised games because he’s after a move to a CL team. Well he was appalling as well. Colback is often criticised but he is an honest trier as he showed when introduced.
    We are where we are and encouraging performances are all well and good but we need points on the road and fast.

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  • expatmag

    Feb 15, 2016 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #25

    The scenario is clear.

    We will go down.
    Ashley will conduct a fire sale
    McLaren and Co. will be sacked
    Moyes will be appointed
    We will sign a few freebies journeymen and kids
    But this time, we will not come straight back up.

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  • magscar

    Feb 15, 2016 at 10:15 AM

    Comment #26

    Bladeuser

    An unusually long post which may be worth reading but your self inflicted reputation for invective and nothing else will mean it has been read by few including me. You do need to question your approach if you want to be taken seriously.

    Yeah I know I could look at my verbosity but I am being serious as the Blog is a better place for measured comments.

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  • welshgeordie9

    Feb 15, 2016 at 10:15 AM

    Comment #27

    Have a rethink in how to play in away matches, should have done that at the beginning of the season, not with a couple of games to go.

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  • Tsunki

    Feb 15, 2016 at 10:16 AM

    Comment #28

    Magscar if by nemesis you mean the hopelessly apathetic Blackley who has a trail of failed ridiculous arguments to fall on, and by business credentials you mean my mentioning how I am not unfamiliar with the rudiments of running a company as a way of qualifying the I do understand where good and bad decisions can be made ( by sometimes bitter experience) , I don’t see your point other than to jump on his bandwagon of naysaying reasonable proposition. The caps thing was an emphasis, not a vein – popping rant. Emphasis because everyone’s going on about what’s going on down on shop floor, while the overseer of all things presides on the same mess year after year. And the reason we see exactly the same scenario played out is because the big guy is comfortable with it. He is comfortable because we are comfortable, evidently because we keep buying from him and supporting his ideal no matter what lousy thing he does.

    For candour sake, I posted after Pardew left that I couldn’t believe that a successful man like Ashley would leave a caretaker in charge. But I was dead wrong. I’m not as patient as you evidently, I fear that I’ve seen ” root and branch” in print many times after all these pathetic seasons. There’s only so long you can excuse a top boss from relying on “progress reports” before he actually has to get his hands dirty and for something.

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  • welshgeordie9

    Feb 15, 2016 at 10:18 AM

    Comment #29

    I wonder if the players still have faith in mcclaren, if they have then it won’t be for much longer.

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  • Ian Toon

    Feb 15, 2016 at 10:21 AM

    Comment #30

    We need a Chris Mort type to replace Charnley. A thoroughly personable professional individual who was a credit to the toon. He was a quick learner and made a point of talking to travelling fans.
    A DOF who is an experienced football type. A Chief Scout who is younger and hungrier in his networking.
    At least Sherwood thinks we will stay up- maybe he’s after Macca’s job.

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  • welshgeordie9

    Feb 15, 2016 at 10:21 AM

    Comment #31

    People having a go at Gini, Christ he can’t do everything on his own, same as mitrovic, some have got short memories, praise them one week and then calling them crap the following week.

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  • magscar

    Feb 15, 2016 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #32

    Expat

    Not certain of relegation as others failngs could save us has last season and others.

    Can’t shake the feeling that Ashley personally will be considering a replacement for McClaren but will depend on if he can identify someone who can not onky fight fires but continue into next season. He may come up with no one then your nightmare scenario could come to pass but without Moyes unless he comes now

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  • Wayayman

    Feb 15, 2016 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #33

    Blade user, I thought I’d read your post since you took time to write your thoughts down. I can see past the lack of punctuation which I’m used to from your posts and this is a football blog after all, not a school.
    I was pleasantly surprised to see you writing something with substance for a change, but just as I was warming to you and your ever so friendly username, there you go again targeting the fans and tarring them with the same brush. How do you know that ‘all of you’ clapped the team off? Where you there? Why do you have so much anger towards people who are supporters of the team you love? Don’t call us sheep, we support NUFC, not the owner or manager or even he latest signing. We’ve been there long before Ashley and will be there long after. It’s called loyalty. It’s tribal, it can’t be switched off on demand.

    Ashley out macca out fullstops and commas OUT!

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  • AncientC

    Feb 15, 2016 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #34

    Somebody posted yesterday that the running of the club was Einstein’s definition of insanity – repeating the same processes and expecting a different result.

    The fault with that claim is that the owner hasn’t expected a different result whatsoever.

    Survival expected, based on periods of famine, followed by cash injection when relegation form comes into the foray.

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  • beermonkey

    Feb 15, 2016 at 10:35 AM

    Comment #35

    jail

    look at the start or last season and the one before
    pardew spouting on about champions league and best squad in years
    imagine what he was saying to the players

    i think it was an easy sell for mclaren this season as he was going to rebuild

    expat

    if we go down thats us far to many clubs in the championship that do it right with players and academys, cant see any of the first team sticking around except elliot and colo dummet

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  • toon kk

    Feb 15, 2016 at 10:36 AM

    Comment #36

    A blind man can see what our problems are. A
    Poor defence which lacks quality and pace, we’re always going to concede.
    Work ethic among the squad is shocking. Also even when we play well we have no cutting edge in front of goal.
    Don’t blame Mitrovic, Gini, Townsend and Shelvey they’re the back bone of our squad, it’s there team mates letting them down.

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  • Sav

    Feb 15, 2016 at 10:37 AM

    Comment #37

    “We’re losing games because we’re not scoring enough goals and we’re not keeping clean sheets. We have to somehow solve that.”
    This may sound like a crazy, left-field idea but hows about you buy some decent defenders and a striker who knows where the net is? Does Carr ever watch Newcastle? Does Macca not have his number? Can Mitrovich play CB? He has all the attributes while he seems to lack the one component necessary for a comfortable life as a striker. Perhaps he was just ill-advised as a teenager?

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  • Ian Toon

    Feb 15, 2016 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #38

    blade- I plead guilty and even at those prices. It’s less of a habit these days but I saw us win at Spurs which was a real adrenaline rush and get hammered at Palace. We were humiliated and I didn’t personally applaude the players but many did.

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  • toon kk

    Feb 15, 2016 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #39

    Welsh in
    Maybe our players should start putting more effort in.

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  • AncientC

    Feb 15, 2016 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #40

    If probably isn’t that the club did not want to buy defenders, it’s more likely that they couldn’t find any that fit the strict transfer policy.

    Last defender signed… a 20 year old that the club probably wrangled a deal on because they were buying Mitrovic from the same club… buy 2 get 5% off.

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