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This Is What’s Responsible For Newcastle’s Rapid Decline

2:38 pm, Wednesday, February 17th, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 75 Comments

If Newcastle cannot get a decent back four together before the next game at Stoke City and stop letting in soft goals then we could be sinking down to the Championship quicker than we thought.

After having a big scare last season when we almost dropped down in the final game of the season, who would have thought we would be in this position this season?

lee charnley

Lee Charnley – Newcastle’s Managing Director

It’s an inability by the Newcastle Board to learn from their mistakes and when you don’t do that then history repeats itself – so we are in an even worse position than last season at this time.

After 26 games played last season we had 32 points, but had just been taken  apart 5-0 at Manchester City.

If you cannot remember that game just think of Saturday capitulation at Chelsea and it was very similar, but at City it took 21 minutes to be 3-0 down.

Newcastle have failed to strengthen their defense and we have conceded 239 goals in 140 games since the start of the 2012-2013 season and we still didn’t bring in new defenders last month.

If Newcastle do get relegated there will be books written about  the incompetence of those running the club.

Lee Charnley,  the Newcastle Board of Directors – Graham Carr, Bob Moncur and Steve McClaren – and owner Mike Ashley.

They will detail how Newcastle managed to get relegated when we were the 17th richest club in the world and we spent £80M on new players this season.

That’s not easy to do.

It’s simply incompetence and it started when Lee Charnley – probably with the help of Graham Carr – chose John Carver and then Steve McClaren as the next head coaches at the club following the departure of Alan Pardew.

Here’s their pathetic records.

John Carver

Premier LeaguePlayedWonDrawnLostGFGAGDPoints

Steve McClaren

Premier LeaguePlayedWonDrawnLostGFGAGDPoints

In the last 45 league games since Pardew left we have 37 points so it’s been relegation form since January 1st of last year.

That’s consistency right there.

We have only 9 wins in 45 games and a goal difference of -39 – and a massive 26 defeats.

🙁 🙁 🙁

So it’s not even an opinion that it’s incompetence – the results show that only too clearly.

As we said it’s not easy when you spend £80M in a season to end up relegated – but that’s looking more and more likely as we continue to collapse and look so pathetic away from home.

Not only will there be books written about our relegation – if it happens – but they will be best sellers too.

Comments welcome.

Tags: Coaching · Management · Newcastle News · Transfer News and Rumours

75 responses so far ↓

  • 1 AncientC // Feb 17, 2016 at 2:56 PM

    I bet Ed has searched high & low for a picture of Charnley looking bemused and under stress, if such a thing even exists.

    There is always ‘The Mag’ method, e.g. take a picture of Ashley, change the colour settings to reddish hues, then you will have what resembles a demon.

  • 2 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 17, 2016 at 2:58 PM

    Ian @ 109 earlier.
    You should leave the psychoanalysis of posters to BandB. She’s not very good at it and gets carried away on flights of fancy and wild frolics, but you appear to be a rank amateur.

  • 3 Jail for Ashley // Feb 17, 2016 at 2:58 PM

    I’d love to punch him in the face!

  • 4 thejokethatisnufc // Feb 17, 2016 at 3:00 PM

    I’d love to punch Lee Charnley in the face

  • 5 sickandtired // Feb 17, 2016 at 3:03 PM

    Ed – when Pardew quit and Carver was appointed, the Board consisted of Ashley, Charnley and the soon to depart Irving. That was it.
    Ashley is up to his neck in all of the ‘football board’ decisions he tries to distance himself from.

  • 6 Tsunki // Feb 17, 2016 at 3:03 PM

    I’d love to pinch his little chubby wubby little wosy cheeks yes I would…

  • 7 Tsunki // Feb 17, 2016 at 3:03 PM

    The Article that Time Forgot.

  • 8 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 17, 2016 at 3:05 PM

    Surely Ed can photoshop Charnley to look like the clown he is? A far more accurate representation with the added bonus of bringing further merriment to the blog.

  • 9 Tsunki // Feb 17, 2016 at 3:05 PM

    it’s good to see just how bad John Carver was. If he had carried on he would have made McLaren look like Mourinho.

  • 10 Tsunki // Feb 17, 2016 at 3:07 PM

    The only pictures of Charnley appear to be the ones where he is holding a ticket that says he’s allowed to be somewhere but he’s not sure where or these inane grinning ‘I have got a toffee apple off my mum’ poses.

  • 11 Tsunki // Feb 17, 2016 at 3:09 PM

    I think he’s hiding the toffee apple behind the ticket in this one. Not sure if his trousers are still up though.

  • 12 Tsunki // Feb 17, 2016 at 3:11 PM

    I hope his belt hasn’t failed because braces are his plan B….

  • 13 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 17, 2016 at 3:11 PM

    Is there not a picture of that usless waste of oxygen where he isn’t smiling?

  • 14 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 17, 2016 at 3:11 PM

    Pencils sharpened, tick. Ink levels checked, tick. Drinks dispenser refilled, tick. Voicemail checked, tick. Time to amuse the blog.

    Sitting in Costa Metro Centre PMSL.

  • 15 Tsunki // Feb 17, 2016 at 3:11 PM

    There’s definitely not one where he looks even slightly concerned afaik.

  • 16 lesh // Feb 17, 2016 at 3:12 PM

    Ancient C

    Here’s some footage of the Board but you’ll not see Penfold looking stressed. He doesn’t do stress, he doesn’t do knee-jerks…. it seems he does SFA apart from use up oxygen!

    Oh, and here’s some secretly shot footage of our world-renowned Football Board

  • 17 Tsunki // Feb 17, 2016 at 3:12 PM

    Blackley, I try to provide an all round service.

  • 18 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 17, 2016 at 3:13 PM

    Surely this would be a better picture of Charnley

  • 19 toon kk // Feb 17, 2016 at 3:14 PM

    For all Carver should Never have been appointed as coach, no manager would have got everything from that squad, look at it now with all the money that has been spent and we’re still a weak squad. We were so run down it was unbelievable. There’s still a loosing attitude that still infects original players and is being passed on to new arrivals.

  • 20 hibbitt // Feb 17, 2016 at 3:14 PM

    as jail says carver nearly got us relegated there will be no nearlys with McClown he will take us down in style

  • 21 Jib // Feb 17, 2016 at 3:17 PM

    On 19th December 2014 Leicester City were on 10 points after 16 games .
    By 3rd April 2015 they had 19 points from 29 games and were 7 points adrift rooted to the foot of the table.

    The rest as they say is History.

    The Foxes have had the same board throughout everything that has happened.

    I’ve searched high and low and nowhere can I find any criticism of Leicester City’s board or ownership.

    To fixate on a (admittedly not very good-looking) CEO for the current plight of the club is absurd and shows how little a lot of Newcastle “fans” understand about the modern game.

  • 22 Tsunki // Feb 17, 2016 at 3:18 PM

    I’m waiting for the article that reveals the title of Managing Director has been renamed Bumbling Deadweight Imbecile to highlight the remit accurately.

  • 23 Jail for Ashley // Feb 17, 2016 at 3:19 PM

    Anyone got a link for when Churners looks at Ashley before waiting to cheer after the winner against Spurs?

  • 24 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 17, 2016 at 3:20 PM

    Charnley wetting his pants when Jonas scored on the last game of the season. Give us that vine please Ed. Trust me and buy into this, boys. The power of imagery and positive group thinking. It’s our only hope now boys. Unless Doumbia is hiding his light under a bushel of course. But Old Blackas counsels that we shouldn’t put all our eggs in that basket.

  • 25 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 17, 2016 at 3:25 PM

    I’ve heard in the modern game you can ignore certain games to calculate your goal difference. Would that be right?

    Dopey Blackas. I forgot, Tigger doesn’t answer questions.

  • 26 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 17, 2016 at 3:26 PM


    The MD is a waste of money and oxygen

  • 27 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 17, 2016 at 3:27 PM

    There’s only one Lee Charnley, one Lee Charnley, there’s only one Lee Charnley …

    Charnley, clap clap, clap

  • 28 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 17, 2016 at 3:28 PM


    Shouldn’t it be crap, crap, crap?

  • 29 Tsunki // Feb 17, 2016 at 3:33 PM

    I can imagine Mike saying in a Bank voice

    “And then when you have almost lost all hope, you will have my permission to cheer”

  • 30 Tsunki // Feb 17, 2016 at 3:33 PM

    Bane. I suppose he does the Bank voice a lot too though.

  • 31 Tsunki // Feb 17, 2016 at 3:34 PM

    Space Hopper head.

  • 32 Jeffrey // Feb 17, 2016 at 3:35 PM

    Mr Lee Charnley

    Mr Lee Charnley holds 32 appointments at 32 active companies, has resigned from 2 companies and held 0 appointments at 0 dissolved companies. Lee began their first appointment at the age of 31. Their longest current appointment spans 7 years, 2 months and 9 days at NEWCASTLE UNITED FOOTBALL COMPANY LIMITED

    The combined cash at bank value for all businesses where Lee holds a current appointment equals £58m, a combined total current assets value of £110.7m with a total current liabilities of £88.6m and a total current net worth of £-93.4m. Roles associated with Mr Lee Charnley within the recorded businesses include: Director

  • 33 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 17, 2016 at 3:38 PM

    32 jobs? he must be raking it in the greedy barsteward

  • 34 Tsunki // Feb 17, 2016 at 3:38 PM

    Jeff at 21 you were doing pretty well until you got to “On 19th…” then it all dropped to bits didn’t it.

    Can’t blame the MD for the disaster under his oversight? Ha ha ha I may be a plastic cup monitor but I know that’s daft. 🙂

  • 35 Tsunki // Feb 17, 2016 at 3:40 PM

    I’m sure the asset value will at least meet the debenture requirement for the ‘freeeeee’ loan. 🙂

  • 36 Tsunki // Feb 17, 2016 at 3:42 PM

    Any minute now there will be Apocalyptic Apoplexy.

  • 37 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 17, 2016 at 3:42 PM


    I still can’t get how you can loan yourself money!

  • 38 Rotonda heights // Feb 17, 2016 at 3:42 PM


    You always say that but I can’t agree. Against WHU and WBA we were great, it’s the negative away tactics that are killing us and how SM can’t see that and change it is what is driving us to the championship.

    Not so much to do with the quality of players, it’s a negative mindset on the road away from sjp which is the biggest culprit.

    There is no excuse not to do better with:-

    Elliot / Krul both international keepers
    Janmatt Dutch international
    Sissoko French international
    Mitro Serb international
    Wijnaldum Dutch intenational
    Shelvey England international
    Townsend England international
    MBemba – Congo international
    Tiote – Ivory coast international
    Perez – all top teams want him

    etc, etc.

  • 39 Rotonda heights // Feb 17, 2016 at 3:45 PM

    Lose = when you don’t win
    Loose == ie when something is running around

  • 40 Tsunki // Feb 17, 2016 at 3:49 PM

    it’s easy. All you have to do is afford it. Then you lend it to the company, the company secures it for you against it’s assets (in this case, stuff you own already as a company shareholder but that’s just a technicality) so that you have a first charge if everything goes upside down. it’s up to you if you want to charge interest if you are the only shareholder, but undoubtedly you’d have to look at the tax implications on that interest in such a case. You don’t have to claim interest at all if you don’t want to. Mike apparently doesn’t. But he does coincidentally know a man who could benefit through another company by donating a valuable service, for nothing. Or maybe £1.

  • 41 Tsunki // Feb 17, 2016 at 3:50 PM




  • 42 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 17, 2016 at 3:51 PM


    So it’s a massive con then?

  • 43 Jeffrey // Feb 17, 2016 at 3:53 PM


    1. Sudden impairment of neurological function, especially that resulting from a cerebral hemorrhage; a stroke.

    2. A sudden effusion of blood into an organ or tissue.

    3. A fit of extreme anger; rage: “The proud … members suffered collective apoplexy, and this year they are out for blood”.

  • 44 Tsunki // Feb 17, 2016 at 4:00 PM

    TFL – ah, no. it’s hardly a con lending yourself some money to stop your company from ailing under the pressure of punitive bank rates. In fact it’s a good idea, especially if you happen to be in the happy position to only have to lend enough to be covered by asset securities. As long as the asset vase is maintained at a level where you can get your money back by sale or as preferred creditor if it all went badly wrong, you can wait indefinitely to get paid back. But of course, leaving your money in there interest free means it effectively depreciates, so you’d want to see your capital returned asap by the brisk upturn in revenue that has been achieved in no small part by the boost of not having onerous bank interest to pay.

    But Mike seems to be letting his money deaden by allowing it to ride, which suggests that he’s either a) happy to lose money, b) seeing disappointing revenues or c) having another method by which he can benefit, which doesn’t involve said company paying him personally, and that more than offsets the money he would gain from taxable interest returns.

  • 45 Tsunki // Feb 17, 2016 at 4:00 PM

    Is Jeffrey a robot? Not like a Web robot. Like a c3po one.

  • 46 The Diamond dogs hoojars // Feb 17, 2016 at 4:02 PM

    Rotonda, that’s a lot of internationals in your list, resembles the list of experienced internationals we had when we got relegated, hope it’s not lightening striking twice, we had even more experience last time as well and the same two knacka centre backs to boot.

  • 47 Ian Toon // Feb 17, 2016 at 4:04 PM

    Blackley- You’re right. You know what they say about a little learning being a dangerous thing.

  • 48 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 17, 2016 at 4:05 PM

    If you think you’re loaning yourself money, you will get confused and fall victim to foul play. The way to look at it is that NUFC is a completely separate legal entity to Ashley and his other companies such as SD. You don’t care about Ashley or SD, just NUFC. So if NUFC benefits from a massive interest free loan, that’s good for your club. The fact that Ashley is not losing out by loaning the money to NUFC, because he is the sole owner, is neither here nor there to you as the fan.

    As for the “free” afvertising that NUFC grants, NUFC loses out but it’s relatively trifling. The Ashley bashers will tell you that it’s all about the free advertising. If that were the case, it must be the most expensive free advertising the world has ever known. Ashley stood and still stands to lose a fortune through his ownership of NUFC. SD could have secured advertising anywhere in the world by paying a third party provider. You need only look at comparable premiership clubs total commercial revenues to get an indication of how modest the cost would be for what SD have got.

  • 49 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 17, 2016 at 4:13 PM


    Thank you but I don’t trust Ashley. That is the reason for my distrust

  • 50 toon kk // Feb 17, 2016 at 4:23 PM

    While agree, why can we be great against west ham and w brom then be so poor in others games is baffling tbh. It’s time for wally to go but our players must also take far more responsibility. But on your list how many are defenders? Janmaat and?
    I’m not sticking up for any of our latest managers, there was far better options out there. But why does so many think with the right manager we could suddenly turn into Leicester? Even when we play well we still have no prolific striker and have no cutting edge in front of goal.

    It’s just a matter of us all being fed up and our moods change from week to week depending on results. Ultimately it’s a mixture of problems which is going to take changes, time and money. Let’s hope we can survive for them to be made.

  • 51 Jail for Ashley // Feb 17, 2016 at 4:28 PM

    toon kk,
    I was at the WBA game, we weren’t great at all, they were pure shite. Against W Ham we were fantastic in the first half, we have played well for about 13% of the hapless tufts time here.
    Put a sock in it !

  • 52 Tsunki // Feb 17, 2016 at 4:33 PM

    Ian you appeared to agree with Blackley before he said anything. 😐

    No it’s not loaning yourself anything of course, the private individual Ashley, the sole Shareholder Ashley, and the Newcastle United FC Company are three separate entities.

  • 53 toon kk // Feb 17, 2016 at 4:38 PM

    I watched PSG vs Chelsea highlights, for all Chelsea lost 2-1 what’s aparrent is how there defenders worked there socks off, they through there body’s on the line working hard for 90 mins, we just can’t do that, Colo turns his back or is out paced, there’s no point mentioning the rest. We need quality through the door and our work rate must be upped.
    I just don’t think we have the character to fight for survival

  • 54 Jail for Ashley // Feb 17, 2016 at 4:40 PM

    Shepherd and Hall took out fortunes but bought in star ayers and paid top dollar for managers not to mention building a new stadium, all the while only plunging us in to 80M debt. Where has the money gone in the last eight and a half years.

  • 55 Essex Geordie Bill // Feb 17, 2016 at 4:43 PM

    There are quite a few who could be tried out in the left back spot in the Spain. Darlow, Woodman, Riviere are 3 that are obvious candidates.

    The main point is that the young defenders in the squad should never be put in that position just in case it ruins their development forever. Better that they are allowed to improve in the lower leagues over the next few seasons.

    Makes sense to me!!

  • 56 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 17, 2016 at 4:45 PM

    I’m not surprised you don’t trust Ashley. He’s shot himself in the foot so many times. I also believe that if he had managed to achieve success on the field by winning a presitgious cup, he would be viewed very differently. But he has caused his own problems and he’s failed on the pitch. So he’s rightly being done for that.

    But that makes him victim to all kinds of spurious claims on the financial front; people throw mud and it sticks to him even though often there’s no basis in fact. There’s so many misunderstandings of the financial position that have been peddled and blithely accepted that Ashley has become a hate figure for it.

    Every time old Blackas is prompted to respond to put the other side, it’s boring. People don’t want to hear it. Its been done before, they say. Yet they’re happy to see the same mud slung time after time no matter how many times its been done before or how inaccurate it is.

    You will soon see the blog police appear in order to get things back on message and then disappear again having contributed nothing on any subject. It seems they’d rather read about Joel Matip till the cows come home. I simply caution any young readers to be careful what they read and believe. Just because it’s accepted wisdom on here, it doesn’t make it so in the real world.

  • 57 Jeffrey // Feb 17, 2016 at 4:47 PM

    Freddy Shepherd (born 1942), is an English businessman and the former chairman of Newcastle United football club.

    During his time at Newcastle, both as an active assistant to and later replacement of Sir John Hall as chairman for ten years, Shepherd proved an often outspoken and controversial figure, at times alienating the club’s support.

  • 58 Ian Toon // Feb 17, 2016 at 4:47 PM

    Tsunami- I am running to catch up. It related to a comment on self deprecation at lunchtime. Blackley’s an expert on Corporate Finance, Ageism and any number of other ism’s.
    He’s also called as an expert witness on graphology and DNA. Not sure I have anything to offer.

  • 59 Ian Toon // Feb 17, 2016 at 4:48 PM

    Tsunki- Not intentional!!

  • 60 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 17, 2016 at 4:49 PM


    I see your point and whilst I think that many arguments are done to death some need investigating further.
    If Ashley was honest enough to tell the truth, open the clubs books and stop employing idiots we would get somewhere

  • 61 Jail for Ashley // Feb 17, 2016 at 4:57 PM

    Excellent football related post, run along now that hot chick and latte won’t wait forever. Chiswick’s an unforgiving place!

  • 62 Take A Chancel On Me // Feb 17, 2016 at 4:58 PM

    Off topic but bloody hell:

    A footballer is on the run after reportedly shooting dead a referee after being sent off during a match in Argentina.

    The player retrieved a gun from his bag after being shown a straight red before returning to the pitch and shooting the official during the game in Cordoba, central Argentina on Tuesday, according to local reports.

    The victim, named locally as 48-year-old César Flores, suffered gunshot wounds to his head, chest and neck.

    Another player is believed to have been injured but is out of immediate danger.

    Police have launched a huge manhunt to find the attacker, who has not been named.

  • 63 Jail for Ashley // Feb 17, 2016 at 4:59 PM

    The club accounts are there for all to see, getting round to how the best accountancy firm ended up with those figures is another matter though.

  • 64 Blackley and Brownlie // Feb 17, 2016 at 5:00 PM

    The way I see it, £80m was a lot of money back then when TV revenues weren’t anything like they are now. Yes, it was affordable. The club was paying about 12%. The debt was secured on “future” revenues. There was a plan. But, as Ashley found out to his chagrin, there was hidden debt on outstanding player transfers.

    The days of the marquee signings were over. We were mortgaged to the hilt. As we all know, you need top players to play in the top league, but those days were over without a great deal of luck and astute purchases. None of the Michael Owen shit. We couldn’t borrow any more in order to buy. A lot of the shit on the books helped to take us down. There’s no guarantee that any amount of spending will keep a club up, as we’re finding out, but it certainly helps.

    Relegation set the club back massively. We still had massive wages and were making losses. Ashley has paid for players up front and only when he’s thought the club could afford it as it started to make profits that could be reinvested. However, he’s taken a massive gamble this season and has undermined any previous good financial stewardship IMO. This could be a financial train crash.

  • 65 Essex Geordie Bill // Feb 17, 2016 at 5:08 PM

    Whilst all of the financial theories and arguments bore the hel! out of me as I doubt whether there will ever be agreement or real light revealed on this or any other blog by or to the various “experts”.

    I do however agree with Blackley’s point that if ever we were to get some real significant Silverware under Ashley then a lot of perceived transgressions would be suddenly forgiven. I’ve said this myself on the odd occasion.

  • 66 Essex Geordie Bill // Feb 17, 2016 at 5:12 PM

    And I did make a mildly amusing footy point if anyone cares to respond.

  • 67 Mister Tuff // Feb 17, 2016 at 5:18 PM

    Jib Jibberish – you will no doubt have noticed that the following phrase has just been posted :-
    “The days of the marquee signings were over”

    to save you some Google time I’m going to help you out. The phrase does not mean that NUFC have stopped buying large tents.

  • 68 123 Dummet Time // Feb 17, 2016 at 5:25 PM

    Frank De Boer

  • 69 Jail for Ashley // Feb 17, 2016 at 5:35 PM

    You can blame those ageing overpaid mercnanaries (Collo anyone) all you want for relegation, KK had them up for it. Relegation should have cost Mike Ashley, not the club.

  • 70 Back Door Man // Feb 17, 2016 at 5:36 PM

    I’ve been watching the blog for a couple of years and have noted the contributions of most of the ‘regulars’. What strikes me is how petty a very small number of these contributors can be, it’s a shame really as they can often make useful observations about NUFC. A couple of these folk can’t resist the temptation to abuse others or make unfounded accusations; when challenged to provide proof they refuse. It’s cowardly to behave in this way! So, Ian Toon, I think most right-thinking folks here would expect you to provide Mr Tuff with the evidence to back-up your assertions.

  • 71 sparky55 // Feb 17, 2016 at 5:38 PM

    Non Apologetic Apocalyptic Apoplexy at that!

  • 72 Jib // Feb 17, 2016 at 5:49 PM

    Thanks Mr Tuff.

    It is actually – marqué – from the French
    i.e. – a signing of a person of mark.

    It is only certain stupid sports journalists and thick bloggers that spell it like the tent.

  • 73 Jeffrey // Feb 17, 2016 at 5:55 PM


    1. A large tent, often with open sides, used chiefly for outdoor entertainment.

    2. A rooflike structure, often bearing a signboard, projecting over an entrance, as to a theater or hotel. Also called marquise.

    Exceptionally popular or skilled: The team is hoping to sign a marquee player.

    [French marquise, marquise, marquee; see marquise.]

  • 74 Jib // Feb 17, 2016 at 6:02 PM

    From the Telegraph 5 hours ago

    “The minnows , whose annual budget was less than what PSG spent on their marque signing Javier Pastore, ended the season as champions largely thanks to …”

  • 75 posada // Feb 17, 2016 at 6:59 PM

    They will all walk away and not be bothered. Charnley, Carr and SM.
    This self supporting network of fools for some reason have the confidence of the owner. They are taking full advantage.
    Keeping it going on a good wage until the gravy train comes to a stop. Actually it will be one almighty train crash.

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