Numb At The Incompetence Since Newcastle Finished 5th

In May of 2012 Newcastle finished the league in 5th position – the highest since Sir Bobby Robson was sacked for only finishing in 5th place in 2004 and missing out on a Champions League position.

How standards have dropped at Newcastle over the years.

In fact almost four years ago we have a very decent chance of finishing in 4th place and a Champions League place but we lost our last two games of the season at home to Manchester City (2-0) and at Everton (3-1).

lee charnley mike ashley standing

Lee Charnley and Mike Ashley run Newcastle

We had a decent transfer window in 2011 when we brought in Yohan Cabaye, Demba Ba and Davide Santon and they were all regulars for Newcastle that season and in addition we brought in Papiss Cisse in January of 2012 and he hit 13 goals in 14 games for us to propel us forward.

We also lost former stalwarts Jose Enrique, Kevin Nolan and Joey Barton that summer of 2011.

And we even had the Managing Director Derek LLambias say the five year plan of Mike Ashley’s had actually worked because we finished 5th in Mike’s fifth season in charge.

That was after we had been relegated in 2009 but came straight back up under the guidance of Chris Hughton and in retrospect that promotion was one of the successful moments of the last nine years under Mike Ashley.

That’s saying something.

So why didn’t we push on after finishing 5th top and Alan Pardew won two Manger of the Season awards?

Well the first mistake was not to bring in more players that summer to strengthen the side and increase the size of it – and the only senior player we brought in was Vurnon Anita from Ajax.

And then we found out that those extra Europa League games were hitting us hard because of our small squad – and yes – of course – we picked up a lot of injuries – as usual.

In the January of that year we were struggling against relegation and so we brought in five Frenchmen and we survived the drop while reaching the quarter finals of the Europe League.

We were much better at the start of the next season (2013-2014) but it started out by Yohan Cabaye going on strike when Arsenal bid for him and Newcastle refused to sell.

The club then made another stupid mistake when they told Yohan he could leave in January if the club got a decent offer for him then.

So his agent gets in touch with some interested clubs to tell them of this agreement and lo and behold in came PSG with a £20M bid and he was gone.

Lee Charnley said at the time – well he wanted to leave the club.

That really showed our players they were secondary to the almighty dollar – and in interviews that Steve McClaren conducted in the summer  a number of our players said they felt they were hung out to dry the second half of that 2013-2014 season.

Alan Pardew also managed to get himself banned for headbutting a Hull City player and that shamed the club with news of it going around the world.

And to cut a long story short – we lost seven of the last eight games of that season.

In 2014 we started the season with 4 points from seven games – but then recovered by winning six games in a row and then Alan Pardew walked out after the home win over Everton – the last game of 2014 – and it was probably after hearing no players would be brought in that January.

In came the inexperienced and rather naive John Carver to take over and we lost nine of the last eleven games of that season and just avoided relegation on the very last day of last season with a 2-0 win over West Ham.

In came Steve McClaren last summer after he had been fired by Championship club Derby County – and we started the season with three draws and five defeats in the first eight games.

We have been in the bottom four nearly all season long and at the moment are in a relegation place in 3rd bottom place with 24 points after 26 games played and with time starting to run out.

So let’s pause here –  that’s the way things have gone at Newcastle over the last nearly four years since we were 5th top of the Premier League.

Mick Quinn used a great word to describe how Newcastle fans feel at the moment in his column in the Chronicle.


Here’s some of the definitions of the word numb:

  • Deprived of physical sensation or the ability to move
  • Incapable of action or of feeling emotion
  • Lacking or deficient in emotion or feeling
  • Unable to think, feel, or react normally because of something that shocks or upsets you

Yes – that’s a great definition of how Newcastle fans feel at the moment – and when you read again what’s happened over these last four years at Newcastle it’s small wonder.

But let’s finish this article by looking on the bright side of things – the good news is that things can only improve from now on.

That’s right isn’t it?


Comments welcome.

36 comments so far

  • Average_Contents

    Feb 24, 2016 at 12:10 PM

    Comment #1

    Another definition

    Newcastle United fan.

  • Graeme

    Feb 24, 2016 at 12:14 PM

    Comment #2

    And the point of all that is what? Exactly?

  • Lindisfarne

    Feb 24, 2016 at 12:22 PM

    Comment #3

    If we are to believe what little we are told by the club then the process of making the club financially stable has been a success and an improvement in football performances is now the priority. New players are told that the target is CL qualification, the Head Coach has the target of a top 8 finish and generally fans are told that the intention is to build a side capable of winning a Cup. I wonder what the analysis of our current position is?

  • Jib

    Feb 24, 2016 at 12:32 PM

    Comment #4

    An Andy Carroll hat-trick against the mackems on Saturday lunchtime will really set up the day , then Leicester batter Norwich – Stoke get 5 red cards against Villa ,and England hammer Ireland in the 6 nations.

  • mad-serb

    Feb 24, 2016 at 12:39 PM

    Comment #5


    Saw a post somewhere where you mentioned having access to Supersport channels from south Africa.

    Lived their and supersport has just about every football, rugby and cricket games availible.

    Can you tell me how I can get hold of that package. Is it a Kodi addon or …

  • Jib

    Feb 24, 2016 at 12:47 PM

    Comment #6

    Mad- Serb
    In the Kodi Operation Robocop Universal add on there is a thumbnail entitled – VOD testing (its a new app that gives you an African vpn) – all 8 Supersport channels are there plus Celtic TV

  • mad-serb

    Feb 24, 2016 at 12:47 PM

    Comment #7

    Repost from previous

    Actually I would say our youth system is doing fairly well of late. The reason they are struggeling a bit this year is that most of the promosing youngster has been shipped out on loan this year to actually get a chance to continue their development by playing regular football, which is what most of the top teams do with their youngster that show some promise

    To name a few

    Callum Roberts, Rolando Aarons, Adam Armstrong, Kevin Mbabu, Alex Gilliead, Freddie Woodman, Jamie Sterry, Liam Gibson

    Those are all seen as future first team players and some are already on the fringes and others are do well on loan and will be assed as to their role next year to see if they come into first team contension or another year on loan. So its not all so gloom as people make it out to be.

  • mad-serb

    Feb 24, 2016 at 12:48 PM

    Comment #8

    Tx Jib will give it a look tonight 🙂

  • Mister Tuff

    Feb 24, 2016 at 12:50 PM

    Comment #9

    Lindisfarne – earlier post – not a bad effort on the poetry front.
    It seems, inadvertantly, as Jib replied to your effort, that he is much better at producing poetry than producing factual posts about football (he had his jacksie twanged, yet again this time about Abeid).

    So Jib if you are reading – stick to poetry.
    also you were slagging off the FF the other day and spoke about their remit. I asked you to explain their remit which you have not answered -as you clearly do not know what it was.

  • mad-serb

    Feb 24, 2016 at 12:52 PM

    Comment #10

    Super rugby starting on Friday. Atleast something to watch

  • Jib

    Feb 24, 2016 at 1:00 PM

    Comment #12

    Kom jy Blou Bulle

  • Jib

    Feb 24, 2016 at 1:10 PM

    Comment #13

    The remit is fairly obvious.

    Basically curb enthusiasm and be realistic.

    One forum someone wanted to talk about a specific transfer – clearly impractical if you think about it , it opens the door to endless argument , discussion , and differing opinion.

    Trnasfer policy – yes
    Specific transferss – no

    Cup policy – yes
    Specific cupties – no

    etc. etc.

  • Lindisfarne

    Feb 24, 2016 at 1:19 PM

    Comment #14

    Mister T

    Just a bit of fun at the self entitled ones expense, not that I condone ‘Trolling’, bad language or the use of poetry.

  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Feb 24, 2016 at 1:19 PM

    Comment #15


    Yes but how many end up with regular places in the first team.

    That for me would be the definition of ‘doing well’

  • Lindisfarne

    Feb 24, 2016 at 1:21 PM

    Comment #16

    Playing in Division 2 is the antithesis of ‘doing well’.

  • mad-serb

    Feb 24, 2016 at 1:22 PM

    Comment #17


    Nee man jib blou bulle is k_k. Stormers is my span

  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Feb 24, 2016 at 1:23 PM

    Comment #18

    The only successful player to step up from the youth section recently has been Andy Carrol.

    Sadly for him he left us after being infected with the injury virus.

  • Jib

    Feb 24, 2016 at 1:35 PM

    Comment #19

    die Serfontein het ‘n sterk kontak met die Noord-Ooste van Engeland

  • mad-serb

    Feb 24, 2016 at 1:41 PM

    Comment #20

    @Essex Geordie Bill

    And therin lies the problem. At the same time we all want to sign a new defence, strikers well basicly all we can get but at the same time you want to bring youth players through.

    You need to make a decision as to what your policy is and stick to it. Look at Man U they have introduced a host of young players but if it was not for injuries crisis they have had how many would have been given a chance.

    They want to win the league and develope the next class of 95 at the same time. in this league where here is no easy game its impossible to do in todays league.

    Then there is the story of how many youth players really make it through to first team football in the premier league?

    I think Tottenham have made the best options They bought some great young talent and at the same time instead of paying a vetran loads of money to sit on the bench they have given some youngsters a chance at they have grabbed their chances. Paying 4 – 8 million for top 18 something years old worked for them. But infact how many in their team are their youth players and not just snapping up from other teams.

    In todays football if you produce 1 or 2 1st team players every year then you have done well in my opinion.

  • Jib

    Feb 24, 2016 at 1:42 PM

    Comment #21

    If you think kak
    say kak

  • lochinvar

    Feb 24, 2016 at 1:45 PM

    Comment #22

    Ed: And we even had the Managing Director Derek LLambias say the five year plan of Mike Ashley’s had actually worked because we finished 5th in Mike’s fifth season in charge.

    Seems to be a direct correlation between the number of years ownership and declining League positions.

    After 5 years – 5th Position , after 10 years – 10th and/or lower etc etc

    In Economics it’s called Diminishing Return

  • Mister Tuff

    Feb 24, 2016 at 1:51 PM

    Comment #23

    Jib Jibberish – as I thought you know nothing about the Fans Forum and why it was set up in the first place.
    UEFA do have a publication on line called the Supporter Liason Officer Handbook which explains the principles – link:-

    Again I have to say you are posting stuff which is complete rubbish and therefore mis-informs readers – which is really not a good position.
    Learn stuff properly then you can give an informed opinion -instead of just making stuff up.

  • Jib

    Feb 24, 2016 at 2:04 PM

    Comment #24

    Mr Tuff
    Why you think a document driven by concerns for fans safety across Europe is relevant to what we were talking about only you know.

    I get the feeling you’d love to join the big lads but you are constantly let down by your lack of intellect.

  • ScoopSouthAfrica

    Feb 24, 2016 at 2:20 PM

    Comment #25

    Hi Jib I reside here a Geordie in exile, but I support the last British outpost namely KwaZulu Natal the SHARKS.
    Anyone living out of the old Northern Transvaal area hates the Blou Bulle.

  • Jib

    Feb 24, 2016 at 2:26 PM

    Comment #26

    I think it’s a Pretoria thing.
    Loftus can be daunting
    Who has won the Currie cup the most ? (genuine question)

  • Munster Mag

    Feb 24, 2016 at 2:31 PM

    Comment #27

    Job, England hammer Ireland ? On yer bike son!

  • Dime Bar

    Feb 24, 2016 at 2:33 PM

    Comment #28

    Jib Thanks for heads up on SuperSport

  • Jib

    Feb 24, 2016 at 2:36 PM

    Comment #29

    ha ha ha

  • YouCouldn'tMakeItUp

    Feb 24, 2016 at 2:40 PM

    Comment #30

    One of the candidates for next Fifa Prez is called Tokyo Sexwale.

  • mad-serb

    Feb 24, 2016 at 2:49 PM

    Comment #31


    Thats easy Western province won it the most without checking exact amounts.

  • isleofmanman

    Feb 24, 2016 at 3:04 PM

    Comment #32

    Management failure after failure after failure. Here are ten. You could triple them:

    1. Freddie Shepherd (inheritor of family scrap metal business though no fault of his own) sacks manager after manager and Club gets an impossible reputation. Quality managers won’t join us

    2. Ashley buys the Club’s shares; doesn’t bother with due diligence. Finds that the Club has chunky debt. Needs to think of ways to pay himself back

    3. Ashley appoints a Spurs supporting nightclub/casino owner as MD (say no more…)

    4. Joe Kinnear appointed manager and brings his mate Ernie I mean Denis Wise to sort the club out

    5. Board has decided on player upper age limit – effectively ruling out anybody with time-served Premiership experience

    6. Mr Angrily-Inconsistent-Manager aka Pardew doesn’t challenge shit policies and eventually slides off

    7. Mr Survivor who had been at the club for 15 years making tea and going out to lunch aka the very awful and not-fit-for-purpose Lee Charnley is appointed MD

    8. Steve McLaren is appointed. Whereas other members of the Club’s peer group West Ham and Leicester and Spurs and Liverpool get to make proper appointments

    9. A retired (in his 70’s now) average ex-player and average ex-manager is pushed to the front of the scouting/player purchase process and spends his days looking at players who are unproven in Premier League

    10. The Crisis kicks in and cash which should have been signed off and spent in Summer 2015 finally buys us some quality in January 2016 aka Panic

    I’m considering writing the sitcom script

  • ScoopSouthAfrica

    Feb 24, 2016 at 3:07 PM

    Comment #33

    You are correct mad-serb………

  • lochinvar

    Feb 24, 2016 at 3:49 PM

    Comment #34

    Like it –
    could we have a spin off series on “Carver the unjust” and ” Midseason Murders” ( based on true life story match results )
    and so so so much more…..good luck with the script !

  • blumile

    Feb 24, 2016 at 3:59 PM

    Comment #35

    Whose up for starting the MOURINHO #doitforbobby petition. I reckon he’d take the job if the pressure from the fans was high enough!

    I also think it would be the catalyst for Ashley to change!

    Spread it in the right places. could easily get 52k signatures 😉 (which is think is a good number)

  • blumile

    Feb 24, 2016 at 4:00 PM

    Comment #36

    Maybe someone with better grammar should write it!



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