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This Would Be Another Mistake By Steve McClaren

8:41 am, Sunday, February 28th, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 59 Comments

We don´t think Steve McClaren is good enough to be Newcastle´s manager and we also have our doubts that he can save us this season in the Premier League after the former England manager has presided over the Magpies worst ever season in the Premier League ever.

Newcastle have a huge problem with away games and in 13 road games we have 10 defeats and only two wins,  so McClaren has hinted he may change the personnel for games away from home and that could mean dropping our best player Gini Wijnaldum, who was withdrawn at half time during the Chelsea fiasco.

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Gini Wijnaldum scoring against Lillestrom last Saturday

McClaren offered no explanation to Gini about why he was withdrawn, which sounds like poor man-management from the gaffer.

It will be interesting to see what his team is for Wednesday night at Stoke City, where we must get something out of the game.

But it would be a mistake to drop Wijnaldum from the side which McClaren may be contemplating.

Gini is our top goalscorer with 9 goals although all his goals have been scored at home.

But to drop your best players doesn´t seem to be the right move to make.

The right move is for the manager to understand why he cannot get the best out of the Dutch International in road games and for both of them to help solve the problem.

If we lose at Stoke City on Wednesday there will be renewed calls for the manager to be fired.

That´s really long overdue when you look at Newcastle´s pathetic record this season and that´s after we have spent a massive £81M on new players – more than any other Premier League club.

We are running out of time to save ourselves and leaving McClaren in the job too long could doom us to the Championship in May.

It´s that bad.

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About half our fans think we can something out of the game at Stoke.

We really need a win on Wednesday night.

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59 responses so far ↓

  • 1 ROSHAN MAGPIE // Feb 28, 2016 at 8:48 AM

    so who all want mcclaren lose two matches and get sacked or win one game and stay till the end of the season

  • 2 AncientC // Feb 28, 2016 at 8:55 AM

    I wish they would pull Sissoko aside and give him training sessions on his decision making, he could be a great player if he used his brain a bit more.

    The old strategy of Sissoko stalling with the ball while Janmaat overlaps has been done to death too.

  • 3 sparky55 // Feb 28, 2016 at 8:59 AM

    It’s amazing how much effort Ashley puts into his non NUFC business interests compared to the effort he puts into running NUFC

    He’s massively investing in property all over the UK…massively outbidding the nearest highest bidders for anything in city centres.

    Ashleys Daughter has just married a business friend of my son and they’ve been given a open cheque book to buy big plots in centre centres to build purpose built SD megastores with in-house Fitness Gyms…so basically they’re already got a massive captive audience of Chavvy gym freaks already wearing his cheap chivvy sh!te who’ll soon by buying his cheap chavvy gym wear to wear in his cheap chavvy gyms…a captive market if there ever was one.

    Ashley paid 8 million more than the nearest bidder for the old Tetley brewery site in Leeds and is doing the same all over the country.

    He’s bought a plot in london for a 135 million and he’s gonna build a chavvy towers with retail units on the ground floor, office units on the next 10 floors and apartments for the rest…with guess what…an SD store on the bottom with an SD gym amongst the office floors.

    All this is being done via MASH holdings…all completely outside SD and building up more value in his holding Co so he can buy back SD for peanuts later this year.

    We’ve all read SD is being de-listed this week but there’s been no words of defiance and no fighting to keep them in the FTSE because he wants to see them de-listed so the share price falls even more so he can buy it back for less. Investors are selling SD shares by the millions because they all know the shares will fall further and play right into Ashleys hands.

    All this very astute business activity whilst he leaves that useless tw@t Charnley in charge of NUFC and not stepping in to make any changes to the running of NUFC.

    So just in case anyone reading this does not get where I’m going with this…HE DOESN’T GIVE A SH!TE WHAT HAPPENS TO NUFC…It always has been and always will be all about MASH holdings and his own personal fortune.

    He doesn’t need his own personal advertising hoarding any more…he’s now got a massive property empire along with the biggest sports retail empire in the world…job done…he doesn’t need NUFC any more it’s right at the bottom of his business priority list.

    but don’t worry lads…he’s got the best coach and best MD running the club…there is absolutely nowt to be worried about.

  • 4 Jail for Ashley // Feb 28, 2016 at 9:00 AM

    Roshan, good question, a lad I worked with last was wanting Poyet to lose so they wou?d sack him, they dod and it worked.

  • 5 anthc // Feb 28, 2016 at 9:05 AM

    I think it is vital we don’t lose at Stoke. We have an opportunity to put some space between us and those below as well as making ground on those just above. It will be a tough game but it’s about time we showed our metal. I have no issue dropping gini if it means we get something. However he has the perfect argument as colo has been dross lately but is never dropped. 3 points would be great a point will do for me,

  • 6 The overrated Frenchman // Feb 28, 2016 at 9:07 AM

    Probably too late for a new manager to turn it around now. Straight after the Chelsea game might have given someone a chance with the break, but I suspect that now the horse (without the cart) has bolted. It will be McClaren for better or worse, and only the supreme optimists amongst us will be expecting the former. Relegation (if it happens) is going to be a monumental event for this club as things stand. The turmoil will be of epic proportions and ultimately all brought about by the dear leader. His pain will be my only, but nonetheless significant consolation.

  • 7 sparky55 // Feb 28, 2016 at 9:09 AM

    we’ve got no chance whatsoever of getting anything from the Stoke game…we should be saving our strength for the Bournemouth game

  • 8 croftus5678 // Feb 28, 2016 at 9:10 AM

    no matter how much i hate something or someone i would never want my team to lose and go down !

    wiji deserved to be taken off at the last away game but tbh so did a few others !

    like many of our players we talk big and say the team has to do this and that bur it normally comes from the wordt player trying to blame everyone else a la saylor after his dismal display or wiji spouting about away form just before his lack of desire in the away game.

    if our cb’s close down and dont turn their backs or stop running after the man they are marking we are capable of winning a lot of the 12 games left but it all depends on how well the cb’s play imo.

  • 9 snowdone // Feb 28, 2016 at 9:15 AM

    Hi Ed,
    Have to disagree with you on this one. His form in recent games suggest he needs a rest. Unless he has shown zest and zip in the break he should be used as a sub against Stoke.

  • 10 Moonraker15 // Feb 28, 2016 at 9:22 AM

    I would be amazed if Charnley has spoken to any potential manager candidates to replace McClown, but you would expect him to be sacked if we lose heavily at Stoke!
    Every other club would have a contingency but Newcastle? I doubt it!

  • 11 Tsunki // Feb 28, 2016 at 9:23 AM

    While I don’t wish for relegation, apart from not surprising me, it wouldn’t worry me unduly. It would be an interesting first season in the championship and might finally unearth some home truths on the Ashley Question.

  • 12 bladeuser // Feb 28, 2016 at 9:24 AM

    What a load of claptrap
    We will get nothing at Stoke so they should keep there strength for Bournemouth what an idiotic statement
    So what your saying is let’s not try at Stoke because if we do we will be F@@@:@ for Bournemouth and lose Listen
    Doh it doesn’t work that way

  • 13 Tsunki // Feb 28, 2016 at 9:27 AM

    Good Sparky. Interesting slant on our ample-girthed proprietor and his obsessive quest for money and control. Anybody who thinks nufc is a prime concern of his should take a look at his universe of business involvement and realise what a tiny moon in his Solar System we are. Just because he has ‘loaned’ himself his own money (guaranteed creditor if course so he can’t lose it) doesnt mean he can’t bale if he spots the opportunity. Question is, what will he do to nufc assets if he does?

  • 14 AncientC // Feb 28, 2016 at 9:28 AM

    I fear Bournemouth more than Stoke. Stoke are probably better from set pieces and have a few individuals with higher quality than Bournemouth, but Bournemouth play better football, a brand of football we struggle against.

  • 15 Tsunki // Feb 28, 2016 at 9:29 AM

    To qualify Sparky, the Ashley post not the don’t bother trying at Stoke one, that was poor 🙂 Lighten up, grumpy chops ha ha!

  • 16 Tsunki // Feb 28, 2016 at 9:30 AM

    Ancient – I think that brand of football is called ‘football’

  • 17 Tsunki // Feb 28, 2016 at 9:31 AM

    I think that from now on, we should all bit ‘win’ for every game! Win bar!

  • 18 Tsunki // Feb 28, 2016 at 9:31 AM

    Vote ‘win’


  • 19 AncientC // Feb 28, 2016 at 9:35 AM

    Tsunki, ah, I was not aware there is only one style of football.

  • 20 Tsunki // Feb 28, 2016 at 9:36 AM

    Although our wispy-maned coach ain’t that great, he did take on a declining power with nufc. The Average One jumped ship knowing that the institution was decayed, and McLaren said as much that it would be a long haul to recover. Still, he took it, and we are still waiting for that turn of fortune. I think Steve has realised that the policies behind the club are more rigid than he assumed. Still, he has a future in toothpaste or denture commercials.

  • 21 Tsunki // Feb 28, 2016 at 9:37 AM

    Ancient – yes mate, sadly. it’s in the ‘Steve McLaren Book of Coaching Myths’

  • 22 Tsunki // Feb 28, 2016 at 9:38 AM

    So I’ve been out of blog office for a bit, was it horrible again last night on here? 😉

  • 23 The overrated Frenchman // Feb 28, 2016 at 9:39 AM

    As usual, bladeuser’s psychotic ranting makes more sense than a lot of the opinions expressed here…

  • 24 Tsunki // Feb 28, 2016 at 9:42 AM

    Let’s all rant psychotic ally then. Ah one and ah two and ah three – ah….

  • 25 Ron Knee // Feb 28, 2016 at 9:42 AM

    Cristiano Ronaldo: “If we were all at my level maybe we would be leaders.” There’s modesty!

  • 26 Jail for Ashley // Feb 28, 2016 at 9:42 AM

    I don’t see why people think that a new manager wouldn’t work, now would be the perfect time to get that new manager bounce, providing it wasn’t Warnock, Burley or him that likes to dress up in womens clothes and being photographed.

  • 27 AncientC // Feb 28, 2016 at 9:43 AM

    How to confuse a sports journalist, ash him/her to do a write up describing McClaren’s brand of football at Newcastle.

    I would simply go with “freestyle”.

  • 28 Ron Knee // Feb 28, 2016 at 9:44 AM

    Who’s that, Jail?

  • 29 Tsunki // Feb 28, 2016 at 9:49 AM

    Ron – George Burley used to manage Ipswich I think…..

  • 30 Jail for Ashley // Feb 28, 2016 at 9:53 AM

    Ron Knee
    That ex Wigan manager, was all over the NotW dressed up in suspenders

  • 31 JamesToon // Feb 28, 2016 at 9:53 AM

    See there are a few clubs circling around Janmaat. Honestly don’t think it would be much of a big deal if we sold him. Good going forward but can’t defend. Wouldn’t mind it if we replaced him with someone like Carl Jenkinson who should be available on the cheap, got good crossing ability, pace and work rate

  • 32 hibbitt // Feb 28, 2016 at 9:59 AM

    so the stage is set McClown is sacked who do you think this lot would bring in to replace him NOT who we would bring in who the board would bring in ???????

  • 33 BandB // Feb 28, 2016 at 10:03 AM


    Some people think Ashley is playing Go For Broke with SD so he can gain full control on the cheap.
    With buys like Cabella and Thauvin you’d think he was playing Go For Broke here too….downsizing NUFC to the stage where it needs a smaller ground and a prime city centre leasehold becomes available for development. 🙂

  • 34 Tsunki // Feb 28, 2016 at 10:05 AM

    Hibbit someone desperate and fittingly average

  • 35 Jail for Ashley // Feb 28, 2016 at 10:09 AM

    Some people still cling to the belief that our portly owner would want a successful NUFC as it would benefit SD?

  • 36 hibbitt // Feb 28, 2016 at 10:09 AM

    Tsunki /
    we already have that !!!!

  • 37 BandB // Feb 28, 2016 at 10:10 AM


    SD isn’t his “love” as they claim.
    Mash Holdings is the beast to watch.

  • 38 Ron Knee // Feb 28, 2016 at 10:15 AM


    Thanks, but it was the cross-dresser that grabbed my attention!

  • 39 Jail for Ashley // Feb 28, 2016 at 10:17 AM

    Surely he wouldn’t be allowed to build us a 30K seater stadium in Cramlington and use SJP as a mega SD come student accomodation//hotel/casino

  • 40 Jail for Ashley // Feb 28, 2016 at 10:22 AM

    Paul Jewell

  • 41 Ron Knee // Feb 28, 2016 at 10:22 AM

    Where’s T. Dan Smith when you need him?

  • 42 firebug666 // Feb 28, 2016 at 10:22 AM

    Newcastle have got one thing right; they said the wanted to have the same football philosophy running throughout the club, and by george they have it!

    I nicked these stats from The Mag:

    Newcastle United Under 18s 0 Derby County Under 18s 4

    Newcastle United team v Derby:

    Smith, Spooner, Kitchen, Longstaff (C), Bailey, Adu-Deprah, Long, Lowther (Aziakonov 70), Allen, Heaney, Smith

    Today’s defeats means that the three Newcastle teams combined have only 17 wins this season and 41 defeats, the breakdown here:

    First Team: P29 W7 D6 L16

    Reserves/Under 21s: P19 W4 D5 L10

    Academy/Under 18s: P23 W6 D2 L15

    Overall Newcastle United 2015/16 record: P71 W17 D13 L41

    The record of the three teams from 1 January 2015 to the end of last season was:

    First Team: P19 W3 D3 L13

    Reserves: P15 W2 D4 L9

    Academy: P14 W4 D1 L9

    Which when added to this season’s stats, gives the following overall record since 1 January 2015:

    P119 W26 D21 L72

  • 43 Jail for Ashley // Feb 28, 2016 at 10:23 AM

    He’d need planning permission and he’d never get it.

  • 44 JamesToon // Feb 28, 2016 at 10:24 AM


    Losing mentality at this club

  • 45 Jail for Ashley // Feb 28, 2016 at 10:29 AM

    When staff are hired on how brown their tongues are it does not promote a winning mentality ,

  • 46 BandB // Feb 28, 2016 at 10:31 AM


    Folks thought he’d never get planning permission for Strawberry Place.
    SJP was build outside the town walls. But the city centre is expanding. A new hi-tech district is developing. Who would build a football club there now, in this age of entrepreneurs?
    Put the out-dated sentimentality aside, and does Newcastle need a 52,000-seater ground when European football is beyond its means?
    Haven’t the thrusters among us always argued that fan numbers aren’t what makes a big club anymore, and they are an irrelevance in modern football?

  • 47 hibbitt // Feb 28, 2016 at 10:31 AM

    the freeman own the lease of the ground its part of the town moor the city council only manage it,,,,, no chance of retail or housing it has to be used for the good of the people of the city

  • 48 firebug666 // Feb 28, 2016 at 10:35 AM


    I’m afraid so mate. Our players seem to be coached into that losing mentality from a very early age.

    Much has been made in the past about coaching staff going on courses and learning modern footballing techniques, and we have two young coaches who returned (during the Pardrew era) from Europe with a new way of coaching youngsters under their belts.

    But Since Ashley took over and slimmed down the staff (being frugal to save a few quid) the football across the board has been in decline. Beardsley managed to get the development squad relegated to division 2, and now they are 3rd from bottom of that league; (last time I looked).

    Everything has fallen apart at the club, we have idiots in charge, and incompetence abounds from top to bottom.

    Things are no longer black and white!

  • 49 Jail for Ashley // Feb 28, 2016 at 10:48 AM

    In between stating how average Pardew was and the over the top crticism he got and the banging the drum of auld man Carr being the source of all our ails you claimed that Jail for Ashley was a thing of the past ???

  • 50 Jib // Feb 28, 2016 at 10:53 AM

    Bladeuser’s outburst highlights exactly where McClaren went wrong from the outset.
    Instead of trying to turn us into an attractive possession dominated passing side from the get go he should have gone for the Pulis/Allardyce pragamatic philosophy .
    Viz.away from home , park the bus and see what happens.
    The only time he did was against Man United and it worked a treat.
    If we had done that every game we’d be 5 to10 points better off.
    It’s all very well getting praise from Merson that we give it a good shot and had a great 1st half against Chelsea , we still got bugger all from the game.
    Speaking from the benefit of hindsight is a wonderful thing but I think maybe the message has now sunk in with SM.
    A boring 0 – 0 draw at Stoke City would be a tremendous result.

  • 51 lesh // Feb 28, 2016 at 10:56 AM


    Thanks for your insight into Ashley’s business and his interest in Newcastle United (previous thread).

    You’ve surely set many minds at ease and I for one, feel much better having read your post.

    Phew, feel better already.

  • 52 Jib // Feb 28, 2016 at 11:13 AM

    Yoo Hoo

    Munster and Welshie


  • 53 AncientC // Feb 28, 2016 at 11:22 AM

    Lesh, I didn’t mention Ashley on the previous thread, you may want to double check.

  • 54 21st Century Schizoid Man // Feb 28, 2016 at 11:29 AM


    Count chickens hatched

  • 55 Rotonda heights // Feb 28, 2016 at 11:39 AM

    Fair play to Munster re – Pardew.

    Ed kind of gave a withering half hearted admission by saying AP was better than JC. Bit like saying MK dons are better than Stevenage.

    I guess Mag 52, manxpie and Iantoon (and frends?) won’t have it, but I think the vast majority are mighty relieved AP is no longer around when you get out footballed by a Pulis team!

  • 56 21st Century Schizoid Man // Feb 28, 2016 at 11:41 AM


    Agree that as clubs like Watford and Bournemouth can survive and even thrive in the top flight then it is the % turnover from TV rights that substitutes for low gate receipts with their small capacity that makes the difference – and us a potential dinosaur. But bubbles have a habit of bursting, especially in the economic sphere, so it could easily all be different if an ultra cheap streaming option appears like a budget airline. The ‘market’ has a habit of eating itself – especially where Murdoch is concerned.

    If its the world wide fan base that makes the TV market work for a club then a new entertainers era would be the best policy. Fingers crossed.

    I recall the Town Moor new stadium proposals of the Hall era too.
    Mind you I can also remember the campaign to stop the motorway over the Town Moor too.

  • 57 Rotonda heights // Feb 28, 2016 at 11:46 AM


    I think the approach away from home doesn’t in any way mirror some of the more adventurous stuff we play at SJP.

    I think if it did we would be points better off as 3 points for a win doesn’t seem to register away from SJP.

    We may not exactly park the bus but we totally nullify the influence of Wijnaldum on the road and we just look a different negative team.

    Just as easy to concede in the 94th minute with no way back. Yes the home team knows the ground better and has more support, but that shouldn’t totally mitigate how we set up.

    I do however, believe in theory SM certainly tries to play more football than any of the anti football managers foisted on us and other clubs like Pardew, Pulis, Allardyce.

  • 58 Veltman // Feb 28, 2016 at 11:48 AM

    Drop Wijnaldum? He he, you having a laugh!
    What a clown whoever suggested!!!
    Where would this club be without his goals by now this season? Rock Bottom!Dropping One of the club’s key player so far is like dropping Kante or Vardy of Leicester.Danny Mills is a good pundit and he is spot on on Mc’s coaching skills & abilities.Zero man mgt skills & zero player motivational Skills.Even if Wijnaldum had couple of below par games,he still can do something out of a blue.
    Mc won’t get sacked for sure even if we lose to stoke but the question is will he still remain in charge if we lose or draw to Bmouth?
    The stoke result will tell us where we stand after that glimmer of hope refreshment in Spain,
    where Lee Ryder said lots of positives have been sighted from the team.

  • 59 lesh // Feb 28, 2016 at 1:14 PM


    My apologies sir. It was Sparky who commented on Ashley and his shenanigans on the previous thread.

    Sparky, my apologies to you too for crediting your wisdom to another enlightened fan.

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