If Newcastle Ever Needed A Win – It’s Tonight At Stoke


It’s now 18 days since we were thrashed by Chelsea in what was an inexcusable display by a Newcastle side who were 3-0 down after 17 minutes and it could have been 9 or 10 if Chelsea hadn’t taken their foot off the gas once they knew they had all 3 points in the bag.

We have seen our players then jet off to the warmth and hospitality of southern Spain for some warm weather training and they had a friendly game against Lillestrom.

We won that game 2-1 and we make a point of saying that because we don’t get too many opportunities to say that Newcastle won a game this season.

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Mike Ashley – shelled out £82M – but we are still second bottom

Now after 18 days of preparation we have two vital games coming up – against Stoke City tonight and then at home to Bournemouth on Saturday – and the Cherries are playing well having drawn 0-0 at Watford and beaten Southampton 2-0 at home last night – that’s their last two games and 4 good points.

They will be a difficult team to beat on Saturday and it will not be an easy game.

It will not be an easy game tonight either at Stoke City but we need a win.

We need a win to cheer up the many Newcastle fans who cannot quite believe just how bad this season has been.

It’s been a complete and utter disaster – so far.

Especially after owner Mike Ashley decided to shell out some of Newcastle’s money in the transfer market and allowed £82M to be spent on eight new players over the last two transfer windows.

But we are still second bottom of the league and we need to start winning games if we are to avoid the drop in May.

If ever Newcastle needed a win then it’s tonight at Stoke City.

Here’s hoping.

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82 comments so far

  • dok - the horrid colonial

    Mar 2, 2016 at 3:40 PM

    Comment #1

    from previous:

    bettyswallocks // Mar 2, 2016 at 1:28 PM

    It looks like these top 5 clubs have had their feathers ruffled by the likes of Leicester gate crashing the party. That wasn’t in the script and they are obviously worried that with the Tv money shrewdly spent by some of the lesser clubs they will become a nuisance and a threat to the big boys.

    that is perfectly said…

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  • Jib

    Mar 2, 2016 at 3:49 PM

    Comment #2

    A point at Stoke would be fantastic.

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  • G

    Mar 2, 2016 at 3:51 PM

    Comment #3

    Even Villa look like they have a little fight left in them now, mackems looking like a team to beat the drop, its lookin like villa, norwich, swansea mackems and us that could drop. Hope its villa, swans and norwich meself like.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Mar 2, 2016 at 3:52 PM

    Comment #4

    I think this mystical ”constraints” put on NUFC managers by Ashley is a claim made by managers who have failed badly in the position.

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  • anthc

    Mar 2, 2016 at 3:54 PM

    Comment #5

    I don’t think we can afford to lose tonight. A win would be great but I’d take a point now. I just hope we don’t concede early or we’re donald ducked with another thrashing on the cards.

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  • mad-serb

    Mar 2, 2016 at 4:00 PM

    Comment #6

    @Jib

    I have to agree any point tonight is a good start and then 3 against Bournamouth is a must.

    We need to win the 6 pointer games at home.

    Thats why I would also not be suprised if he closes up shop tonight and sets us up very defensivly. 2 defensive midfielders with Shelvey just infront of them and then try and play on the break. Not what I would like to see but I guess if you offer us 1 point before we would not even hesistate to take that.

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  • mad-serb

    Mar 2, 2016 at 4:04 PM

    Comment #7

    Any prediction guys. My heart says 1-3 but my head says 1-1.

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  • Jib

    Mar 2, 2016 at 4:06 PM

    Comment #8

    mad-serb
    Mitro will probably spend most of the time in our half , manning the fort with the troops.

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  • kakaobi

    Mar 2, 2016 at 4:08 PM

    Comment #9

    No points tonight means no job for macclaren tomorrow……….or we’re goimg down

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  • SPRINGY

    Mar 2, 2016 at 4:11 PM

    Comment #10

    mad-serb
    hard one mate….like u hoping for a win maybe 1-2 but think it maybe 3-1…..unless theres been a huge change in effort and mindset.

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  • croftus5678

    Mar 2, 2016 at 4:11 PM

    Comment #11

    @7 mad

    i’ll make my prediction once the team/tactics are confirmed.

    tbf even with the players we have available i think we could win fairly easily however with what has been happening it’s more likely we will lose.

    if we do win i’m going to go out on a limb and say its thanks to shelvey being captain as imo he gives them the kick up the backside they need at this stage

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  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Mar 2, 2016 at 4:16 PM

    Comment #12

    Perhaps we will get another inspirational West Ham type talk from Big Mike, that should do it!!

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  • SPRINGY

    Mar 2, 2016 at 4:19 PM

    Comment #13

    essex
    i think he’ll be keeping a low profile with our current situation!lol

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  • jane

    Mar 2, 2016 at 4:23 PM

    Comment #14

    Adam Johnson not guilty of child sex charge

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-35711213

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  • SPRINGY

    Mar 2, 2016 at 4:23 PM

    Comment #15

    think he’s working on the theory…the man who cannot be seen,cannot be blamed!lol

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  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Mar 2, 2016 at 4:28 PM

    Comment #16

    G
    I still wouldn’t rule Palace out of the mix.

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  • SPRINGY

    Mar 2, 2016 at 4:29 PM

    Comment #17

    what a surprise!

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  • SPRINGY

    Mar 2, 2016 at 4:30 PM

    Comment #18

    essex
    palace have a few tough games so hopefully they drop in

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  • lochinvar

    Mar 2, 2016 at 4:34 PM

    Comment #19

    The key point about the so called ” Big five” getting together to form a new Super European League is that the proposal is being brokered by
    American Billionaire Stephen Ross.

    The business model for sport in the USA is the franchise model as per American Football, Basketball, Ice Hockey etc

    The Americans trade heavily with China and that’s the new global market for football, TV money, merchandising and of course betting – where so much of the interest and money is generated in the Far East.

    American is a growing market for Football so you can expect to see the leading European Super Clubs playing matches in the States in the same way as we are now seeing American Football at Wembley and Twickenham.
    Playing in front of massive crowds ( 100,000 ) in massive stadia with all the potential to earn big bucks from merchandising ,TV sponsorship and Corporate advertising is where the “new world” of football is heading.

    Don’t be fooled – it won’t be a European Super League ( that already exists as the Champions League ) – that’s a cover story – the ideas being discussed will be built around the Formula One ( F1) business model or Tennis or Golf circuits.

    The plan is a ” World Club” Championship played at stadia around the world with the monied clubs of Real Madrid, Barcelona, PSG, Monaco, Man City, Chelsea etc . Add to that ” invited” clubs from Quatar, Russia and China ( all with ex- Prem League players signed up ) as canon folder for the “World Club League” but bringing with them millions of wannabe fans to be victims of global corporate merchandising and TV exposure.

    And as for Ashley – you can bet he would want to be part of that private club but he’s excluded as anyone finishing below 6th in their National League is not going to be invited to the party.

    Maybe if we signed up with McLaren Motor Sport or Ferrari that might change the perspective and opportunity.

    If the global rich take control they will determine who is allowed to partake – the likes of Leicester won’t be taking part as they won’t fit the rules of the club ( as determined by the elite clubs ) so won’t be invited.

    Conspiracy theory – no, reality check – you better believe it !

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  • jimiley

    Mar 2, 2016 at 4:37 PM

    Comment #20

    Schteves record of 28 points from his last 33 games is terrible. It is a sackable record. What makes it inexcusable is that he has spent 82 million on players. Why is the man still at the Toon????? Quote ” We need more consistency in our away form.” 17 defeats in 20 away games is consistent Schteve. You could not make it up. Only the Toon would keep him in a job. Perhaps he needed a lot more wins to get the sack eg Hughton or Big Sam. Madcap club which you now sadly cannot take too seriously.

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  • lochinvar

    Mar 2, 2016 at 4:39 PM

    Comment #21

    Johnson reports as guilty on another charge – faces possibility of 4-10 years in jail according to some news reports ?

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  • Jib

    Mar 2, 2016 at 4:39 PM

    Comment #22

    Johnson will not be sentenced for 2/3 weeks but the judge has warned him he will do some time.

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  • magpie6699

    Mar 2, 2016 at 4:41 PM

    Comment #23

    jane – looks to me as though Johnson HAS been found guilty of one of the two denied charges, not forgetting the two he’d already admitted to.

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  • jane

    Mar 2, 2016 at 4:45 PM

    Comment #24

    the link got updated after I posted it I think.

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  • lesh

    Mar 2, 2016 at 4:46 PM

    Comment #25

    Mad-Serb

    Even shutting the shop by setting up defensively means nothing. Our defence, or what little we have, is rubbish and couldn’t stop attacks mounted by a team of five-year old kids.

    Willo would’ve been handy to have around but Charnley clearly felt that £500k was more important than Prem survival.

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  • toonluvva

    Mar 2, 2016 at 4:48 PM

    Comment #26

    In the poll I selected us to lose tonights match.

    I’m basing that on the notion that we will play one lone (isolated) striker, playing with his back to goal trying to scrap against two stoke defenders.

    Meanwhile the closest midfield player will be too far away to pick up on anything the striker manages to win.

    Hence we will be under constant pressure from the off.

    At the end of the season, I believe two teams will be relegated through goal difference, and tonight ours will take another dent.

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  • anthc

    Mar 2, 2016 at 4:50 PM

    Comment #27

    Stoke even money to beat us. Giving money away!
    Seriously hope I’m wrong.

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  • jimiley

    Mar 2, 2016 at 4:50 PM

    Comment #28

    Madcap club with Charnley put in charge of spending 82 million and identifying weaknesses in team for strengthening. No defenders or strikers bought. More midfielders!!!!! You could not make it up. You might as well put Farmer Giles in charge.

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  • lesh

    Mar 2, 2016 at 4:53 PM

    Comment #29
  • dok - the horrid colonial

    Mar 2, 2016 at 5:01 PM

    Comment #30

    boy, the derby is shaping up to be a massive 6 pointer as well… end their run, and dip them below us, ne’er to re-emerge…

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  • jayphoto

    Mar 2, 2016 at 5:05 PM

    Comment #31

    In one of the directors boxes tonight, not seen the toon in 2016 so quite excited!
    Midfield is key tonight! Stoke offer next to nothing up top but Affelay, Arnautovic and shaqiri are so successful because they operate between midfield and attack meaning the midfielders really need to pick them up! I’d man mark all 3 to be honest.
    The new lad at stoke too…imbula? what.a.player! Not sure how they landed him, but he really is a top player!

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  • Jib

    Mar 2, 2016 at 5:10 PM

    Comment #32

    You get a definite feeling of pressure building up on SAFC , it looks like lifting Johnson’s suspension last March was a bad move .

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  • hibbitt

    Mar 2, 2016 at 5:13 PM

    Comment #33

    dok – the horrid colonial /
    we have to get something from the next the next 2 games other wise the derby won’t matter we must stay in touch 4 points from the 6 points would put the pressure on the other teams otherwise its bye bye toon i honestly think the next 2 games will decide our season

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  • jayphoto

    Mar 2, 2016 at 5:15 PM

    Comment #34

    regarding sunderland and Johnson. Surely if the club knew he was guilty there is some moral obligation not to play him?? The FA bang on about players being role models all the time. Are the club going to actually have to answer any questions on this?

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  • Jib

    Mar 2, 2016 at 5:20 PM

    Comment #35

    Jay

    The story has shades of Thauvin about it.

    Imbula was part of Marcelo Bielsa’s brilliant young team at Marseilles with Ayew , Payet and Gignac.

    When it was broken up he signed for Porto in July for 5 years for €20 million .

    He never clicked at Porto .

    Hughes talked Stoke into taking a chance on him and lifting his contract from the Portuguese club after talking to Bielsa.

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  • catchy in norway

    Mar 2, 2016 at 5:24 PM

    Comment #36

    Hi all , what is the feeling like back home about the Brit exit.

    is it going to happen ?

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  • jayphoto

    Mar 2, 2016 at 5:28 PM

    Comment #37

    @Jib – shocked it didn’t work at Porto for him. He really is a fine player. He’s got shades of a younger yaya toure about him at times!
    Still got hope for Thauvin! Full preseason behind him and a year older and maybe he’ll return with something to prove. One thing I think is for sure, no one in the summer will pay what Newcastle will want to recoup on him so he’ll be going nowhere

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  • Jib

    Mar 2, 2016 at 5:29 PM

    Comment #38

    Catchy
    message from Ed
    keep the language respectable, and remember there’s no place for religion or politics in these discussions.

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  • jayphoto

    Mar 2, 2016 at 5:31 PM

    Comment #39

    @Catchy – from what I can tell from where I live in Derbyshire that most people are going to vote for us to leave without having any clue about it whereas from where I work in London they’re voting for us to stay in mostly.
    Seen Norway used as a successful model a few times, personally think that the reasons it works for Norway are why it would fail for the UK

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  • mad-serb

    Mar 2, 2016 at 5:44 PM

    Comment #40

    Can the dreaded stat of us only having 1 player that scored a double (gini with 4) in a game be broken tonight?

    Mitro double 😉

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