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If Newcastle Ever Needed A Win – It’s Tonight At Stoke

3:39 pm, Wednesday, March 2nd, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 82 Comments

It’s now 18 days since we were thrashed by Chelsea in what was an inexcusable display by a Newcastle side who were 3-0 down after 17 minutes and it could have been 9 or 10 if Chelsea hadn’t taken their foot off the gas once they knew they had all 3 points in the bag.

We have seen our players then jet off to the warmth and hospitality of southern Spain for some warm weather training and they had a friendly game against Lillestrom.

We won that game 2-1 and we make a point of saying that because we don’t get too many opportunities to say that Newcastle won a game this season.


Mike Ashley – shelled out £82M – but we are still second bottom

Now after 18 days of preparation we have two vital games coming up – against Stoke City tonight and then at home to Bournemouth on Saturday – and the Cherries are playing well having drawn 0-0 at Watford and beaten Southampton 2-0 at home last night – that’s their last two games and 4 good points.

They will be a difficult team to beat on Saturday and it will not be an easy game.

It will not be an easy game tonight either at Stoke City but we need a win.

We need a win to cheer up the many Newcastle fans who cannot quite believe just how bad this season has been.

It’s been a complete and utter disaster – so far.

Especially after owner Mike Ashley decided to shell out some of Newcastle’s money in the transfer market and allowed £82M to be spent on eight new players over the last two transfer windows.

But we are still second bottom of the league and we need to start winning games if we are to avoid the drop in May.

If ever Newcastle needed a win then it’s tonight at Stoke City.

Here’s hoping.

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  • 1 dok - the horrid colonial // Mar 2, 2016 at 3:40 PM

    from previous:

    bettyswallocks // Mar 2, 2016 at 1:28 PM

    It looks like these top 5 clubs have had their feathers ruffled by the likes of Leicester gate crashing the party. That wasn’t in the script and they are obviously worried that with the Tv money shrewdly spent by some of the lesser clubs they will become a nuisance and a threat to the big boys.

    that is perfectly said…

  • 2 Jib // Mar 2, 2016 at 3:49 PM

    A point at Stoke would be fantastic.

  • 3 G // Mar 2, 2016 at 3:51 PM

    Even Villa look like they have a little fight left in them now, mackems looking like a team to beat the drop, its lookin like villa, norwich, swansea mackems and us that could drop. Hope its villa, swans and norwich meself like.

  • 4 Rotonda heights // Mar 2, 2016 at 3:52 PM

    I think this mystical ”constraints” put on NUFC managers by Ashley is a claim made by managers who have failed badly in the position.

  • 5 anthc // Mar 2, 2016 at 3:54 PM

    I don’t think we can afford to lose tonight. A win would be great but I’d take a point now. I just hope we don’t concede early or we’re donald ducked with another thrashing on the cards.

  • 6 mad-serb // Mar 2, 2016 at 4:00 PM


    I have to agree any point tonight is a good start and then 3 against Bournamouth is a must.

    We need to win the 6 pointer games at home.

    Thats why I would also not be suprised if he closes up shop tonight and sets us up very defensivly. 2 defensive midfielders with Shelvey just infront of them and then try and play on the break. Not what I would like to see but I guess if you offer us 1 point before we would not even hesistate to take that.

  • 7 mad-serb // Mar 2, 2016 at 4:04 PM

    Any prediction guys. My heart says 1-3 but my head says 1-1.

  • 8 Jib // Mar 2, 2016 at 4:06 PM

    Mitro will probably spend most of the time in our half , manning the fort with the troops.

  • 9 kakaobi // Mar 2, 2016 at 4:08 PM

    No points tonight means no job for macclaren tomorrow……….or we’re goimg down

  • 10 SPRINGY // Mar 2, 2016 at 4:11 PM

    hard one mate….like u hoping for a win maybe 1-2 but think it maybe 3-1…..unless theres been a huge change in effort and mindset.

  • 11 croftus5678 // Mar 2, 2016 at 4:11 PM

    @7 mad

    i’ll make my prediction once the team/tactics are confirmed.

    tbf even with the players we have available i think we could win fairly easily however with what has been happening it’s more likely we will lose.

    if we do win i’m going to go out on a limb and say its thanks to shelvey being captain as imo he gives them the kick up the backside they need at this stage

  • 12 Essex Geordie Bill // Mar 2, 2016 at 4:16 PM

    Perhaps we will get another inspirational West Ham type talk from Big Mike, that should do it!!

  • 13 SPRINGY // Mar 2, 2016 at 4:19 PM

    i think he’ll be keeping a low profile with our current situation!lol

  • 14 jane // Mar 2, 2016 at 4:23 PM

    Adam Johnson not guilty of child sex charge

  • 15 SPRINGY // Mar 2, 2016 at 4:23 PM

    think he’s working on the theory…the man who cannot be seen,cannot be blamed!lol

  • 16 Essex Geordie Bill // Mar 2, 2016 at 4:28 PM

    I still wouldn’t rule Palace out of the mix.

  • 17 SPRINGY // Mar 2, 2016 at 4:29 PM

    what a surprise!

  • 18 SPRINGY // Mar 2, 2016 at 4:30 PM

    palace have a few tough games so hopefully they drop in

  • 19 lochinvar // Mar 2, 2016 at 4:34 PM

    The key point about the so called ” Big five” getting together to form a new Super European League is that the proposal is being brokered by
    American Billionaire Stephen Ross.

    The business model for sport in the USA is the franchise model as per American Football, Basketball, Ice Hockey etc

    The Americans trade heavily with China and that’s the new global market for football, TV money, merchandising and of course betting – where so much of the interest and money is generated in the Far East.

    American is a growing market for Football so you can expect to see the leading European Super Clubs playing matches in the States in the same way as we are now seeing American Football at Wembley and Twickenham.
    Playing in front of massive crowds ( 100,000 ) in massive stadia with all the potential to earn big bucks from merchandising ,TV sponsorship and Corporate advertising is where the “new world” of football is heading.

    Don’t be fooled – it won’t be a European Super League ( that already exists as the Champions League ) – that’s a cover story – the ideas being discussed will be built around the Formula One ( F1) business model or Tennis or Golf circuits.

    The plan is a ” World Club” Championship played at stadia around the world with the monied clubs of Real Madrid, Barcelona, PSG, Monaco, Man City, Chelsea etc . Add to that ” invited” clubs from Quatar, Russia and China ( all with ex- Prem League players signed up ) as canon folder for the “World Club League” but bringing with them millions of wannabe fans to be victims of global corporate merchandising and TV exposure.

    And as for Ashley – you can bet he would want to be part of that private club but he’s excluded as anyone finishing below 6th in their National League is not going to be invited to the party.

    Maybe if we signed up with McLaren Motor Sport or Ferrari that might change the perspective and opportunity.

    If the global rich take control they will determine who is allowed to partake – the likes of Leicester won’t be taking part as they won’t fit the rules of the club ( as determined by the elite clubs ) so won’t be invited.

    Conspiracy theory – no, reality check – you better believe it !

  • 20 jimiley // Mar 2, 2016 at 4:37 PM

    Schteves record of 28 points from his last 33 games is terrible. It is a sackable record. What makes it inexcusable is that he has spent 82 million on players. Why is the man still at the Toon????? Quote ” We need more consistency in our away form.” 17 defeats in 20 away games is consistent Schteve. You could not make it up. Only the Toon would keep him in a job. Perhaps he needed a lot more wins to get the sack eg Hughton or Big Sam. Madcap club which you now sadly cannot take too seriously.

  • 21 lochinvar // Mar 2, 2016 at 4:39 PM

    Johnson reports as guilty on another charge – faces possibility of 4-10 years in jail according to some news reports ?

  • 22 Jib // Mar 2, 2016 at 4:39 PM

    Johnson will not be sentenced for 2/3 weeks but the judge has warned him he will do some time.

  • 23 magpie6699 // Mar 2, 2016 at 4:41 PM

    jane – looks to me as though Johnson HAS been found guilty of one of the two denied charges, not forgetting the two he’d already admitted to.

  • 24 jane // Mar 2, 2016 at 4:45 PM

    the link got updated after I posted it I think.

  • 25 lesh // Mar 2, 2016 at 4:46 PM


    Even shutting the shop by setting up defensively means nothing. Our defence, or what little we have, is rubbish and couldn’t stop attacks mounted by a team of five-year old kids.

    Willo would’ve been handy to have around but Charnley clearly felt that £500k was more important than Prem survival.

  • 26 toonluvva // Mar 2, 2016 at 4:48 PM

    In the poll I selected us to lose tonights match.

    I’m basing that on the notion that we will play one lone (isolated) striker, playing with his back to goal trying to scrap against two stoke defenders.

    Meanwhile the closest midfield player will be too far away to pick up on anything the striker manages to win.

    Hence we will be under constant pressure from the off.

    At the end of the season, I believe two teams will be relegated through goal difference, and tonight ours will take another dent.

  • 27 anthc // Mar 2, 2016 at 4:50 PM

    Stoke even money to beat us. Giving money away!
    Seriously hope I’m wrong.

  • 28 jimiley // Mar 2, 2016 at 4:50 PM

    Madcap club with Charnley put in charge of spending 82 million and identifying weaknesses in team for strengthening. No defenders or strikers bought. More midfielders!!!!! You could not make it up. You might as well put Farmer Giles in charge.

  • 29 lesh // Mar 2, 2016 at 4:53 PM

  • 30 dok - the horrid colonial // Mar 2, 2016 at 5:01 PM

    boy, the derby is shaping up to be a massive 6 pointer as well… end their run, and dip them below us, ne’er to re-emerge…

  • 31 jayphoto // Mar 2, 2016 at 5:05 PM

    In one of the directors boxes tonight, not seen the toon in 2016 so quite excited!
    Midfield is key tonight! Stoke offer next to nothing up top but Affelay, Arnautovic and shaqiri are so successful because they operate between midfield and attack meaning the midfielders really need to pick them up! I’d man mark all 3 to be honest.
    The new lad at stoke too…imbula? what.a.player! Not sure how they landed him, but he really is a top player!

  • 32 Jib // Mar 2, 2016 at 5:10 PM

    You get a definite feeling of pressure building up on SAFC , it looks like lifting Johnson’s suspension last March was a bad move .

  • 33 hibbitt // Mar 2, 2016 at 5:13 PM

    dok – the horrid colonial /
    we have to get something from the next the next 2 games other wise the derby won’t matter we must stay in touch 4 points from the 6 points would put the pressure on the other teams otherwise its bye bye toon i honestly think the next 2 games will decide our season

  • 34 jayphoto // Mar 2, 2016 at 5:15 PM

    regarding sunderland and Johnson. Surely if the club knew he was guilty there is some moral obligation not to play him?? The FA bang on about players being role models all the time. Are the club going to actually have to answer any questions on this?

  • 35 Jib // Mar 2, 2016 at 5:20 PM


    The story has shades of Thauvin about it.

    Imbula was part of Marcelo Bielsa’s brilliant young team at Marseilles with Ayew , Payet and Gignac.

    When it was broken up he signed for Porto in July for 5 years for €20 million .

    He never clicked at Porto .

    Hughes talked Stoke into taking a chance on him and lifting his contract from the Portuguese club after talking to Bielsa.

  • 36 catchy in norway // Mar 2, 2016 at 5:24 PM

    Hi all , what is the feeling like back home about the Brit exit.

    is it going to happen ?

  • 37 jayphoto // Mar 2, 2016 at 5:28 PM

    @Jib – shocked it didn’t work at Porto for him. He really is a fine player. He’s got shades of a younger yaya toure about him at times!
    Still got hope for Thauvin! Full preseason behind him and a year older and maybe he’ll return with something to prove. One thing I think is for sure, no one in the summer will pay what Newcastle will want to recoup on him so he’ll be going nowhere

  • 38 Jib // Mar 2, 2016 at 5:29 PM

    message from Ed
    keep the language respectable, and remember there’s no place for religion or politics in these discussions.

  • 39 jayphoto // Mar 2, 2016 at 5:31 PM

    @Catchy – from what I can tell from where I live in Derbyshire that most people are going to vote for us to leave without having any clue about it whereas from where I work in London they’re voting for us to stay in mostly.
    Seen Norway used as a successful model a few times, personally think that the reasons it works for Norway are why it would fail for the UK

  • 40 mad-serb // Mar 2, 2016 at 5:44 PM

    Can the dreaded stat of us only having 1 player that scored a double (gini with 4) in a game be broken tonight?

    Mitro double 😉

  • 41 Jail for Ashley // Mar 2, 2016 at 5:44 PM

    Mythical constaints???

  • 42 Bobbybee // Mar 2, 2016 at 5:45 PM

    Although I have backed Macca – as I will generally do for any manager coming into the club – there reaches a time when sometimes a sacrifice is required for the greater good. We clearly have the players to be sitting comfortably in the league, but sadly, we’re not. If we fail tonight then I would be in favour of bringing in somebody new, if only in the hope of enjoying a honeymoon period to get us safe – as long as we get the right man. That’s where I get stuck. Is the right man out there, available, and willing to come in? I don’t think Moyes is the answer. The Rodgers at Swansea might be, but not the one at Liverpool – he looked totally out of his depth there. Making a change just for the sake of it could be a disaster, so we need the right candidate. Any realistic suggestions?

  • 43 Jail for Ashley // Mar 2, 2016 at 5:46 PM

    I’ve got kodi on my tablet can anyone give me a step by step instruction on how to get the match, otherwise I’m listening to it in the garage on BBC Newcastle

  • 44 Burni // Mar 2, 2016 at 5:51 PM


    follow this to install phoenix

    once installed click on phoenix> valhalla> live tv>> then its live games i believe mate

  • 45 Jail for Ashley // Mar 2, 2016 at 5:52 PM

    Would offering Benitez a small fortune to keep us up be realistic, Nigel Pearson is more likely but would he make a difference, I’m not sure as the 18th richest club in World football is realistic anymore.

  • 46 Hugh Jorgan // Mar 2, 2016 at 5:53 PM
    Here are 13 links for tonight’s game

  • 47 Jail for Ashley // Mar 2, 2016 at 5:53 PM

    Is that anything to do with Kodi

  • 48 Jail for Ashley // Mar 2, 2016 at 5:55 PM

    *what is realistic

  • 49 nufc 11 // Mar 2, 2016 at 5:57 PM

    Flores at Watford looks a top manager in the making I really wanted Patrick veria lst summer English managers haven’t seemed to have moved on with the game and are becoming dinosaurs dying out time for a shake up for me but the right manager.

  • 50 Jib // Mar 2, 2016 at 5:59 PM

    It’s on BeIN Mena (arab) 12
    or Viasat
    I’m just looking at my droidbox for the step by step – I hope you appreciate I’m missing “The Professionals on ITV 4 for this

  • 51 Bobbybee // Mar 2, 2016 at 5:59 PM

    Jail, not sure Benitez is realistic. Can’t see him coming to the Toon for any money. Pearson isn’t high on my list either and his personality won’t fit with Ashley one bit. Not easy to find someone who would suit Ashley and the club.

  • 52 Jib // Mar 2, 2016 at 6:00 PM

    1st Q
    Do you have the addons Phoenix and Operation Robocop ?

  • 53 Jail for Ashley // Mar 2, 2016 at 6:04 PM

    Body and Doyle were good.
    Probably not, never used it before

  • 54 whitbytoonwallsend // Mar 2, 2016 at 6:05 PM

    Jail. Go to system, then file manager. then Add source
    Type in press ok.
    Return to system. press addons. then install from zip file.
    press install from repository. the press the I will folo repo. Go to video addons and enable sports devil. This add on now works reasonably well. Haway the lads. Off to night shift.

  • 55 Jail for Ashley // Mar 2, 2016 at 6:06 PM

    How do i put add ons, in programs or systems

  • 56 jayphoto // Mar 2, 2016 at 6:07 PM

    theres plenty of top class managers out there flying under the radar!
    Southampton plucked pocchetino from relative obscurity.
    Mistake some clubs make is thinking managers need premier league experience. I think its more important players do but managers not so much as shown by flores at Watford and even the Italian at Swansea has picked them up a bit!
    Trick is to appoint a manager based on his philosophy, ideas and temperament, rather than appointing them because they did ok 5 years ago with a side with limited budget

  • 57 21st Century Schizoid Man // Mar 2, 2016 at 6:07 PM


    In Scotland its 60-40 to stay in the EU.
    May well trigger a second indy ref if it’s a majority vote for leaving in England-shire.

    I’d love to see us get a win tonight but if we aim for a draw – then we will probably lose to a breakaway goal, or more likely defensive errors at set pieces.

    Far too dangerous aiming for 0-0 – we need to set up for fast counterattacks. We’ve never been any good at parking the bus.

  • 58 Jib // Mar 2, 2016 at 6:09 PM

    You have Mobdro
    If you go to Sports in that – you will find if you scroll thru – after Sky Fussball Bundesliga – NBC – thats the one Ed uses – you should find it on that -.

  • 59 Blackley and Brownlie // Mar 2, 2016 at 6:09 PM

    I’ve got kodi on my android mobile. I used valhalla to watch a bit of sunderland last night. But it keeps ghosting and is unsteady. Is this the norm when using mobile data? (My broadband is worse.)

  • 60 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Mar 2, 2016 at 6:11 PM

    Adam Johnston situation
    Not sure how Sunderland could of played him.
    As having done my Child Welfare Officer training and being officer for a local cricket team. When a allegation is made the employer or the club have to suspend with pay and not allowed in the ground or training facilities until it had been investigated until proved guilty or guilty.

  • 61 whitbytoonwallsend // Mar 2, 2016 at 6:12 PM

    it comes under settings. have to go now, cheers.

  • 62 Jib // Mar 2, 2016 at 6:13 PM

    Jail it’s 90 mins to kick off ffs
    You’ve had days
    How do you manage to catch your chopper on time ?

  • 63 the white tino // Mar 2, 2016 at 6:14 PM

    All over news now about scum knowing about him kissing girl reckon fa will have to be seen to act on this like

  • 64 beermonkey // Mar 2, 2016 at 6:15 PM


    step by step for robocop

    step by step pheonix

    add both those u will be ok for tonight

  • 65 Jib // Mar 2, 2016 at 6:15 PM

    Mobdro is better on a mobile

  • 66 Jail for Ashley // Mar 2, 2016 at 6:17 PM

    Cheers, how do you know all that ???

  • 67 Jib // Mar 2, 2016 at 6:19 PM

    Failing all that there is always

  • 68 WWSBRD // Mar 2, 2016 at 6:25 PM

    Ur trying hard to watch the match tonight haha think I might not bother personally

  • 69 toonking // Mar 2, 2016 at 6:26 PM

    bringing politics onto a football blog can only mean one thing. we’re sick and fed up of talk about newcastle and it’s consist negative thoughts.

    This march is like an all or nothing story for us. swansea already have a likely 3 points from villa and you’ve also got swansea V norwich and the tyne wear derby.

  • 70 Burni // Mar 2, 2016 at 6:38 PM


    if u follow the link mate it explains it all


  • 71 WWSBRD // Mar 2, 2016 at 6:40 PM

    Am sure there are plenty of good managers out there but that’s not what Newcastle want, they don’t want a young manager because that brings ambition, they don’t want an out spoken manager because they need the fans to turn on the manager first and not them

    What they want is a steady manager who can deliver 14th-8th season after season nothing more nothing less who won’t speak out regardless of what happens

    They wants Pulis without the attitude

  • 72 firebug666 // Mar 2, 2016 at 6:44 PM

    Miles Starforth ?@milesstarforth 17s17 seconds ago
    Hearing Yoan Gouffran could be recalled to starting XI tonight. #nufc

  • 73 jimiley // Mar 2, 2016 at 6:44 PM


    The country is split between those who want to let the whole world into the UK and those who do not want anybody except doctors and engineer etc. It will be a close run thing between the liberals and the racists.

  • 74 firebug666 // Mar 2, 2016 at 6:45 PM

    Football Funnys ?@FootballFunnys now8 seconds ago
    Judge: I hereby sentence you to 15 years..

    Adam Johnson: Could I get one a little younger?

  • 75 AncientC // Mar 2, 2016 at 6:45 PM

    There is something seriously wrong if Arnautovic scores tonight, he has a good goal record but he is as clumsy as they come when closed down. Closing down Arnautovic will not only keep Stoke’s biggest threat quiet, his lack of close control will have the added effect of winning possession back through his errors.

  • 76 firebug666 // Mar 2, 2016 at 6:46 PM

    Lee Ryder ?@lee_ryder now11 seconds ago View translation
    #nufc Elliot, Janmaat, Taylor, Lascelles, Dummett, Sissoko, Shelvey, Colback, Gouffran, Wijnaldum, Mitrovic

  • 77 WWSBRD // Mar 2, 2016 at 6:46 PM


  • 78 firebug666 // Mar 2, 2016 at 6:47 PM

    Lee Ryder ?@lee_ryder now5 seconds ago
    #nufc subs Darlow, Sterry, Saivet, Aarons, Riviere, Doumbia, Perez

  • 79 welshgeordie9 // Mar 2, 2016 at 6:48 PM

    How is that funny.

  • 80 Average_Contents // Mar 2, 2016 at 6:53 PM


    Follow those seo-michael links as they’re easy to follow and would be your the best bet mate.

    Plus it’d be far quicker than someone trying to explain it on here.

    You’ll be up and running in no time.


    It depends on your network signal and if your getting 3g/4g.

    Much better off wifi either way.

    Saying that, the first link on valhalla last night when I was checking the scores was a bit dodgy tbh but never checked the other’s (usually 5 of them) and usually there ok.

  • 81 mad-serb // Mar 2, 2016 at 7:04 PM

    So Gouffran is the left field inclusion. Playing in dm ahead of saviet. Interesting or is he being employed as lm?

  • 82 jimiley // Mar 2, 2016 at 9:27 PM

    There is only blind faith left. We have to believe that Steve and Charnley can save us. I pray that they can do it.

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