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Poll – Please Vote On McClaren’s Future At Newcastle

12:09 pm, Thursday, March 3rd, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 76 Comments

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Steve McClaren – the goal’s that way

We are trying to very quickly gauge what Newcastle fans feel about McClaren after last night’s fourth defeat in the last five games – and let the club know the feelings of the life blood of the club – you – the fans.


Should Steve McClaren Be Fired At Newcastle?

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Tags: Newcastle News · Poll · Prayer · Premier League · Press

76 responses so far ↓

  • 1 BandB // Mar 3, 2016 at 12:12 PM

    I wonder who the one “no” vote is?

  • 2 Rotonda heights // Mar 3, 2016 at 12:13 PM

    The trouble is the people who would fire SM, ie Charnley and carr need removing themselves. The unholy trinity have a cabal of vested interests and will not look to unseat each other

  • 3 Rotonda heights // Mar 3, 2016 at 12:14 PM

    where’s true geordie, i need a rant!!!

  • 4 Toon Tang // Mar 3, 2016 at 12:14 PM

    Yesbar theory… The longer the ‘Yes’ vote, the longer we have to endure Mclazza. You’ve been warned people.

  • 5 BandB // Mar 3, 2016 at 12:14 PM


  • 6 Toon Tang // Mar 3, 2016 at 12:16 PM

    RH, Ive been waiting all last night and this morning myself, I personally think he’s saving the majority of his rage for the Adam Noncon video.

  • 7 Toon Tang // Mar 3, 2016 at 12:19 PM

    But yeah its been a slow morning, I’m umming and arring over whether I should do the dishes or the hoovering or just go for broke sit and watch Corrie reruns.

  • 8 BandB // Mar 3, 2016 at 12:19 PM

    It’ll go up when the Mackems are out of bed.

  • 9 John Akomfrah // Mar 3, 2016 at 12:19 PM

    4 of his non de plumes now

  • 10 MadisonToon // Mar 3, 2016 at 12:28 PM

    He should only be fired if a suitable replacement is brought in. I would expect the summer to be a better time to get a manager in rather than hoping that someone can scrape a few wins with a team they are unfamiliar with and with players they’ve never managed/coached before. Tbh I don’t think it’ll happen. We can rightfully be upset with the way that the team played and the results, but I don’t see McClaren getting fired because I don’t think the club have the ability to bring in a better alternative right now.

  • 11 Toonmania // Mar 3, 2016 at 12:32 PM

    Not really sure what good a poll will do, anyone with any sense can see, feel and hear the opinions of most NUFC fans and lets face it our voice will never be valid all the time that cretin Mike Ashley is in charge as he will do what HE wants to do when HE wants to do it not when we decide because it’s his play thing and he don’t care about the club like we do.

  • 12 toontaff2 // Mar 3, 2016 at 12:32 PM

    355-8 and I am number 355!
    18 days to come up with that- why Gouffran?
    If we do not win on Saturday I think we are down and it will be too late to sack him, anyway.
    We are supposed to be fighting for PL survival and It takes 90 minutes to trouble their keeper, whilst we have 3 strikers twiddling their thumbs on the bench. 2 wins in a row, our 2 games in hand and we could have been nearly safe, but we try to park our knackered bus!

  • 13 toontaff2 // Mar 3, 2016 at 12:33 PM

    Swansea used plan C -putting the head coach in hospital! Any volunteers to hospitalise Schteve? Form an orderly queue!

  • 14 Blackley and Brownlie // Mar 3, 2016 at 12:38 PM

    I see Makro has 14 votes. They include Charnley, Carr, Ashley, Costco, Simpson, Black and Jib. Also a few others who mistakenly hit the wrong button.

  • 15 Hail Wor Ashley // Mar 3, 2016 at 12:38 PM

    Supposedly good, available within reach managers: Rodgers, Moyes

    Dipstick Disciplinarian: Pearson

    Top bucks short term guarantors of PL status: Mourinho, Benitiez

    My personal wildcard: Ginola – why? Highly critical of Pardew’s negative style a few years ago when doing an interview talking about his coaching badges and how he’d like to manage NUFC one day. Has an appreciation for flair, understands NUFC culture and what the fans love. Just an impressive individual, a winner, confident without arrogance and has natural leadership qualities. The only thing is, why if he was doing his badges a few years ago hasn’t he took the leap into management yet!?

    Any are preferable to McClaren who is without doubt taking us down, even the obnoxious Pearson. Heck, I’d rather Cathro be promoted to manager and Schteve and Simpson kicked out.

  • 16 stuart no9 // Mar 3, 2016 at 12:38 PM

    Toontaff. Saturday is too late mate, how many more times are we going to say “” if we get beat there and if we get beat there “” it’s done mate no more ifs sack the useless pr’ ‘k now

  • 17 The Diamond dogs hoojars // Mar 3, 2016 at 12:39 PM

    12 games u said Mac, have a bit of pride in yourself insteadoif this false positivity rubbish u spout, Charnley has got it totally wrong, signings have been of poor mentality and totally inconsistent quality, Mike that precious prem income is going down the spout, do something now, our players are not playing for this manager.

  • 18 corkypants // Mar 3, 2016 at 12:40 PM

    I must admit i got it wrong i thought schteve would come good for us! he needs potting quick. We have a defence that cant defend, strikers who cant hit a barn door, wingers who cant cross and a midfield with as much bite as my daughters goldfish oh and a manager that cant manage. WE ARE DOOMED!!!!
    Any one got Mr Keegans phone number

  • 19 Blackley and Brownlie // Mar 3, 2016 at 12:40 PM

    Ashley needs to sack the Board now. We should be laying the groundwork for next season. This season is a write off.

  • 20 Shot Bru // Mar 3, 2016 at 12:41 PM

    Then we will be relegated for sure Maddison Toon.

    The incompetent, clueless, bland dinosaur should be fired immediately.

    But hey, we keep hearing we have too much to go down.

    Most of the players bought since Wally has been here are utter shyte.

    Why Perez doesn’t get a look in is anyone’s guess, that alone shows Wally had not a clue

  • 21 MadisonToon // Mar 3, 2016 at 12:43 PM


    Do you think the club have the ability to bring any of those managers in? Ashley’s hiring record of managers, particularly in the last 12 months doesn’t show any ambition. Aside from if the manager would be good here, who would want the poisoned chalice that is Newcastle? As SM rightly said about transfers, you need there to be interest from both teams and the player, for a manager to come we need interest from NUFC to bring them in (which I don’t think they have for anyone) and an interest from the manager to actually come in and take the position at NUFC (which I don’t think anyone is too thrilled about).

  • 22 Blackley and Brownlie // Mar 3, 2016 at 12:45 PM

    Some of us could see this struggle coming in the summer. It wasn’t hard. You just needed to look at the shambles of last season’s team, the inept transfer window and Makro’s c.v.

    Makro’s a poor manager. What became obvious by September was that we needed a miracle worker.

  • 23 The next Mike Williamson // Mar 3, 2016 at 12:49 PM

    Rating the worst underachievements in British football in last 20 years.

    1) McClaren spending £80m and relegating Newcastle.
    2) McClaren failing to qualify for the Euros with England’s Golden Generation
    3) Roeder taking West Ham down with Joe Cole etc
    4) Joe Kinnear taking Newcastle down with a team of big names.

    Going back further I would add Souness dismantling the great Liverpool side with players like Mike Marsh. And I’d maybe add Pardew almost taking West Ham down with Tevez and Mascherano. And Moyes finishing 7th with Man U.

  • 24 Blackley and Brownlie // Mar 3, 2016 at 12:49 PM

    I don’t agree with Claridge. The squad is poor. No natural goalscorer and an awful defence. A recipe for killing confidence.

  • 25 Hail Wor Ashley // Mar 3, 2016 at 12:49 PM

    Yup, Perez should be playing as our most advanced player every week. The quality of his finishes since he’s been here in and around the penalty box speak for themselves and if he’d got Mitro’s chances he’d likely be in double figures this season. Why is our best instinctive finisher either played out wide, on the bench, or asked to play alone up front in a system that doesn’t suit him? Same happened with Cisse and it ultimately ruined him as a ST.

  • 26 SPRINGY // Mar 3, 2016 at 12:50 PM

    slightly off topic….perez,what is his best position?

  • 27 corkypants // Mar 3, 2016 at 12:52 PM

    I just thought with the team left in such a mess after carver it may take a while to turn it around B&B. But nothing is changing in fact we are getting worse.

    We need some kind of instant boost and only a new manager will achieve that i think!

  • 28 SPRINGY // Mar 3, 2016 at 12:54 PM

    striker for me… in a up front 2,cant do it by himself tho or attacking midfield in a 4-2-3-1…not keen on this formation tbh

  • 29 corkypants // Mar 3, 2016 at 12:55 PM

    id play both perez and mitro up top go back to basics 442 townsend on the left shelvey and gini in the middle and who ever on the right

  • 30 Rotonda heights // Mar 3, 2016 at 12:57 PM

    the sad thing no one was in place to replace AP and you can bet there isn’t anyone now. Charmless doesn’t do long termism or forward planning. Ash and his roll of dishonourable cohorts are taking us where nobody wants to be.

  • 31 bettyswallocks // Mar 3, 2016 at 12:58 PM

    Poor game last night with conditions not conducive to good football.
    A draw would have been a fair result with only two real effects on goal. They scored with a wind assisted screamer from Shakiri, Butland saved our only real effort from Doumbia. PL games are decided on such narrow margins and results are so unpredictable as the other games show. McC is definitely not comfortable trying to set up to nullify the opposition even though he almost managed the draw last night which would have just about kept people calm.

    He is running out of time now to implement his methodology which will provide the results we need to stay up. The club have stated that they won’t be panicked into making knee jerk decisions , that means he’s staying so we are just going to have to get behind him and the lads and hope and pray that our home form will keep us up.

  • 32 Rotonda heights // Mar 3, 2016 at 12:58 PM


    It is when your sole aim is to get a point, not a wild 3!!

  • 33 Rotonda heights // Mar 3, 2016 at 1:01 PM


    the new methodology is no different to what has gone before, ie park the bus, surrender 80% possession away from home.

    If you yield so much in half your fixtures what kind of methodology is that.

  • 34 Jail for Ashley // Mar 3, 2016 at 1:02 PM

    “And for our uninspiring leader to declare that we were hard-done by – again – insults “all” of those who witnessed this disgraceful display and who vented their anger at the end of the game.”
    I know it makes you think your a better fan by sticking by your man but making stuff up to defend him makes you look a bit pathetic, you said that a majority of fans were supportive.

  • 35 SPRINGY // Mar 3, 2016 at 1:02 PM

    agree with you about only seeing a new manager lifting this shower,i commented earlier about picking up 9 points from the next 4 games as crucial to any survival tilt and a new manager would need installing now for best affect…..cant see it happening unfortunately…….as for perez i agree with u again he should be one of the 2 strikers maybe drop sissoko and play gini there… leave shelvey and a grafter in the middle

  • 36 MadisonToon // Mar 3, 2016 at 1:04 PM


    I think this clamoring for McClaren to get fired is pointless. As you point out, the club have made it a point that they won’t be pulled into knee jerk decisions. Although many don’t feel this would be a knee jerk decision, the club do and that means we have SM until the end of the season for better or worse. Don’t we remember how terrible Carver was? He stayed through the end and we weren’t safe until the dust settled on the final match day. I can’t see us getting anyone in before the summer so what is the point of all the fuss?

  • 37 Rotonda heights // Mar 3, 2016 at 1:06 PM


    Why would ash and charnley do such an instant crowd pleasing, hugely morale lifting thing like that…lol!!

    Ginola would be an awesome shout. You’ll alway get dullards saying he’s got no experience.

    Well in my ever increasing opinion the experience of our last few managers could not have caused more damage.

  • 38 l3wy // Mar 3, 2016 at 1:07 PM

    Should nufc sack mcClaren???
    He should of been sacked weeks even months ago. I honestly thought he couldn’t do any worse than Carver but he’s proved me wrong. Any other club wouldn’t of put up with him for this long but this is nufc.

  • 39 lesh // Mar 3, 2016 at 1:07 PM


    You can’t be arguing that we’re in the mire because the squad’s poor. Apart from the early summer signings that McClaren had foisted on him, he was around for the winter window.

    Additionally, he’s supposed to be a board member and could and should have vetoed the sale of Willo and insisted on a quality CB tone signed. He didn’t and even said he was happy with the squad.

    Now he’s saying he can’t understand what’s wrong. He’s the HC and it’s his job to get the best out the players available to him. We’re we scoring hatfulls you could say he’s getting the best out of our AMs and strikers I could live with your argument. We’re not and what’s more, the players can’t turn it on when they’re playing away from SJP. It’s the job of the HC to motivate his players – McClaren can’t even do that.

    He’s trying his best but I isn’t good enough and his reputation as a failed manager was well documented – yet Charnley still recruited him when the likes of Klopp was available.

    McClaren should’ve been relieved of his duties as HC long ago and maybe used as DoF – over Carr.

    Yes, but who couid we get now? Money talks and where there’s a will on Ashley’s behalf, there is potential out there – but removing McClaren as HC would be an admission of Charnley’s incompetence.

    We need a change quickly as it’s clear the players have little or no confidence in McClaren who should’ve been replaced weeks ago. It’s probably too late now – unless the clubs around us have a long losing streak a d we luck up points here and there.

    What a shambles

  • 40 Shot Bru // Mar 3, 2016 at 1:08 PM

    Play Doumbia and Perez up front together, Perez will drop off and be the link between midfield and Doumbia.

    We need Perez’s intelligence and Doumbia’s directness

  • 41 SPRINGY // Mar 3, 2016 at 1:08 PM

    it wasnt so much the result….the performance was shocking!….poor passing….poor control….poor movement…..poor creativity……poor aggression in the tackle…i will mention, thought the back four did canny well but going forward we would struggle to beat a decent pub team tbh.

  • 42 lesh // Mar 3, 2016 at 1:09 PM

    * grocers’ apostrophe – we’re we on a…. = were we on a ……

  • 43 The next Mike Williamson // Mar 3, 2016 at 1:12 PM

    worst thing is if we go down then they’ll keep mcclaren. i’d imagine anyone could get this team back up but maybe mcclaren has us in such a rut he might just be able to fail in championship too. but if he does complete the easy task of promotion we’ll probably be stuck with him on our return to top league.

  • 44 posada // Mar 3, 2016 at 1:12 PM

    Rotonda at 2.

    A cabal of vested interests.

    Some may need that translating – Turkey’s don’t vote for Christmas.

  • 45 posada // Mar 3, 2016 at 1:17 PM

    1000 votes to 33.
    All I can say to the 33 is you must enjoy being shamed week in week out.

  • 46 BandB // Mar 3, 2016 at 1:19 PM

    New wine in old skins, Lesh.

  • 47 Lindisfarne // Mar 3, 2016 at 1:22 PM

    18 days and nothing new. 60 minutes in, the game was there for the taking and nothing. Stevie says we are progressing and the performance was better, but look at the number of goals scored last night by us, NOT ONE.

    The guy does not know what to do, before during and after a match. You can not lead a team to success by telling they need to be more successful!

  • 48 dok - the horrid colonial // Mar 3, 2016 at 1:25 PM

    woke up this morning, took a shower, and realized I felt exactly the same as I did when I was 9 or so, finding out there was no santa clause…

    never wanted to think it this season but, were going down, if no changes are made…

  • 49 toontaff2 // Mar 3, 2016 at 1:27 PM

    At that rate it will be about 48500-1500 in SJP!

  • 50 bettyswallocks // Mar 3, 2016 at 1:27 PM

    Rotonda…….. McC has a football philosophy based on wingers and wing backs trying to get the ball up the pitch quickly and supporting from midfield. In my opinion we have seen the odd occasion when teams have sat off us and this has worked . When teams are pressing us with a high energy game particularly away from home which many teams have now latched onto as the modern way then our system doesn’t work especially when we don’t match the opposition ‘s work rate. In his Manure days when working with SAF those tactics proved very successful as the game wasn’t as evolved as it is now.

  • 51 toontaff2 // Mar 3, 2016 at 1:33 PM

    Shelvey is demanding “big balls” for Saturday.

    Maybe beach balls?

    Or those giant hamster balls they used to use at half-time? That would be good!

  • 52 bettyswallocks // Mar 3, 2016 at 1:40 PM

    Madison Toon…… I think we need a manager with a winning mentality not just technical awareness . The board don’t seem very adventurous in their managerial appointments but anyway it’s a question for the summer not now. Those who are hoping for a new head coach before the end of the season are deluded. It’s just not going to happen.

    The way Liverpool played last night with the high intensity pressing game shows what can be achieved when it’s implemented properly.

  • 53 BandB // Mar 3, 2016 at 1:45 PM

    97% deluded.
    Thank God for the three per cent of true fans who believe the Championship will be a one-year excursion.

  • 54 lesh // Mar 3, 2016 at 1:48 PM


    Hic! 😀

  • 55 neverwin // Mar 3, 2016 at 1:49 PM

    Wouldn’t it be good if just for once a Manager/Coach would have the decency – moral fibre to admit he is not good enough – accept the blame and resign.
    Sorry I forgot Ruud Gullit did.

  • 56 HarriboNo9 // Mar 3, 2016 at 1:51 PM


    I love it when people make an effort on stats like that keep it up mate

  • 57 bettyswallocks // Mar 3, 2016 at 1:55 PM

    Hoping for something that is highly unlikely to happen isn’t realistic expectation.
    If changing the manager at this late stage could guarantee safety then it would be right to expect and demand it. Finding the right man, getting him to agree to come now( why would anyone that was up to the job risk their reputation with not enough time to influence things enough to have an impact) would also mean an admission of failure before the game has played out.
    The board have convinced themselves and the owner that we won’t be relegated. Whether they are also deluded remains to be seen.

  • 58 bettyswallocks // Mar 3, 2016 at 1:57 PM

    BandB……. Are you implying that the 97 per cent are assuming we will be relegated unless we change managers?

  • 59 BandB // Mar 3, 2016 at 2:04 PM


    Are you assuming they aren’t?

    It is bad enough that the situation at the club may be exactly as you describe without you lining up in their bunker to call other fans deluded.
    You are about nothing but trying to show what a superior fan you are.

  • 60 TacoFlavoredKisses ForMyBen-arfa // Mar 3, 2016 at 2:04 PM

    at first thought i figured The Great Jose would be insane…..But what if Ashley offered him a years salary for the rest of the season?

    -if we stay up the money is a drop in the bucket due to extra tv money
    -if we go down , the money is a drop in the bucket due to the extra tv money lost
    -There is 0 risk for Jose, because he only gets credit if we stay up. if we go down, its not his fault because he didnt put us in this place.

    Please have someone relay this to Mike.

  • 61 bettyswallocks // Mar 3, 2016 at 2:08 PM

    BandB ………. Not superior just realistic and practical. Do you think we will be relegated? Yes or no will suffice.

  • 62 Belfast // Mar 3, 2016 at 2:14 PM


  • 63 bettyswallocks // Mar 3, 2016 at 2:16 PM

    Taco……. What makes you so sure that Jose would keep us up? If he came in waving the big stick they might all down tools and sulk like his Chelsea team did.

  • 64 TacoFlavoredKisses ForMyBen-arfa // Mar 3, 2016 at 2:20 PM

    bettyswallocks // Mar 3, 2016 at 2:16 PM

    1. i would have to think the team would be ecstatic to have someone of his stature at the club. It would REALLY show the ownership trying to support the team. I think it would go a VERY long way.

    2. most teams respond positively to a new coach in the short term, which is all that is left

    3. as is shown, these guys have a lot to learn
    4. could he possible do any worse?

  • 65 TacoFlavoredKisses ForMyBen-arfa // Mar 3, 2016 at 2:23 PM

    i forgot 5, its never happening….

  • 66 LGFUAD21 // Mar 3, 2016 at 2:24 PM

    I reckon we need 12 points to survive.

    That’s 4 wins.

    I’d highlight villa, Bournemouth, Sunderland, Norwich and Swansea. As the games we can get points from.

    They’ll still be tough games but it is doable if we can kick some players up the backside.

  • 67 bettyswallocks // Mar 3, 2016 at 2:26 PM

    Taco……. Yes , very valid points you make but it would not guarantee anything. He would need to assess the players very quickly bearing in mind his Chelsea squad were of a much higher calibrate than ours.

  • 68 LGFUAD21 // Mar 3, 2016 at 2:27 PM


    I’ve said this before hit it doesn’t work like that.

    Loads of people are crap at their jobs. I wouldn’t quit my job if I were crap.

  • 69 LGFUAD21 // Mar 3, 2016 at 2:31 PM

    I don’t think we’ll come back up if we go down.

    We don’t have those key players.

    We’ll have about 4 players left after sales and contracts ending.

    Dummet, Elliott, gouff, rivi, lacelle, colback and Townsend at a huge push.

  • 70 SuperShearer // Mar 3, 2016 at 2:52 PM

    He should have been sacked a while ago but I fear it’s too late now. Who would possibly take over the job now? You’d have to turn to a BIG out of work name who would be willing to simply come in to fire up the players and receive a massive pay cheque to keep us in the league before probably heading off in the summer. Anyone got Jose on speed dial? Is speed dial even a thing anymore?

  • 71 banjax // Mar 3, 2016 at 2:54 PM

    At most Premier League clubs, an abject failure of a Manager like McLaren would have replaced a long time ago – but not at Newcastle United. It’s no consolation that the owner of the club, Mike Ashley has stood idly by and allowed it to happen. If by any chance he has close advisers who told him to stick with the current management then he needs to sack them as well or get his money back or both.
    The ironic thing about it all is that with relegation looming it really doesn’t matter if McLaren is sacked now because the club has to plan for the future both in the Championship and winning promotion back to the Premiership. Keeping McLaren would be a sign of the club’s acceptance of failure and lack of ambition and something which is unlikely to stop our decent players leaving and recruiting quality to get us back in one season. No doubt we will have to wait for decisive action from the club and with Bournemouth on Saturday we may not have to wait that long !

  • 72 thejokethatisnufc // Mar 3, 2016 at 2:57 PM

    We get what we deserve.

  • 73 magscar // Mar 3, 2016 at 3:03 PM

    If we play like we did against West Ham and West Brom you would feel we should have every chance of max points against Bournemouth, Mackems, Swansea and Crystal Palace but it isn’t that easy (look at Swansea last night and Palace at Mackems for recent upsets).

    Even if we did get 12 points it is unlikely that those alone will be enough to save us – 36?. Other home games are Spurs and Man City so depends on which teams turn up for both sides and what is at stake by then as to whether we can get any points in those.

    Away there is only Norwich and Villa where we are possibly in with a chance of points but given McClaren’s abysmal away record who would back us to get any even if one or both were relegated by time we played them?

    Last night showed some improvement but a braver and more attacking set up ( or even after half time) would have possibly gained us a point at least.

    Is McClaren – based on all the away games he has been in charge so far – got the courage to go for points NOW and not when we eventually reach desperation at Norwich on 2 April or Villa 7 May (God forbid we should be relegated there again!!).

    My opinion is he hasn’t or simply can’t get the blend right. Either way we are looking at relegation. On that basis our only chance is an upgrade but can we convince the right person that it is a job worth having right now.

    That may be a harder question to answer than should McClaren go.

  • 74 STB // Mar 3, 2016 at 3:15 PM

    Asley has tried once jettisoning a manager just before the end of the season; we were relegated.
    Last year he stuck to his guns, crossed his fingers and we escaped by the skin of our teeth.
    Whatever anyone thinks he’ll do what worked.

    Why on earth he persists in trying to play for a clean sheet and a draw away from home when we don’t have the personel to do it, is beyond me.
    Selecting Gouffran ahead of Perez was criminal.
    Sissokho no longer deserves his automatic place.

    Leicester only stayed up by going for wins at all costs. The few games where we have played well was in a 4-4-2 formation. We should be playing for wins. The fans will accept defeat if there is effort and an attempt to score goals. 7 goals away from home is simply appalling and an indictement of the tactics used.
    I would give McLaren Saturday as no-one is coming beforehand. Without 3 points he goes.
    Who relaces him is a tough one.
    Moyes wouldn’t have time to sort out the defence. Pearson was a fluke at Leicester and ghopelesss with us, so maybe the only short term solution would be Rodgers who could get this squad playing football on the front foot at least.

  • 75 Rotonda heights // Mar 3, 2016 at 3:25 PM

    i think that SM now has the players so confused / disinterested that almost no manager would be better and just let cathro ”caretake” and either do a miracle or get some experience for next season.

  • 76 AncientC // Mar 3, 2016 at 3:44 PM

    STB – Ashley didn’t purposefully do any management shifting around in the season we went down.

    Keegan started the season, then left… (cough)
    The brobdingnagian Kinnear came in, became ill and couldn’t finish out the season…
    Shearer was then given the position, an exploitative maneuver, trying to use those with compassion for the club in a stunt to save Ashley’s skin from his own mistakes.

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