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Calls Mount For McClaren’s Dismissal But Will It Happen?

3:02 pm, Sunday, March 6th, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 208 Comments

Most fans are waiting with bated breath for an announcement from the club that Steve McClaren has been fired, but it’s 3:00 pm Newcastle time now and there’s still no word from the club.

We suppose there is still a chance that Lee Charnley and Steve McClaren can convince the owner that Steve can still save Newcastle – but he cannot – and if he is kept in charge it simply means we will be relegated in May.

This is little doubt about that because Steve has proved all season that he’s just not up to the job and Lee Charnley will still be trying to save McClaren – as he’s done all season – because he appointed him in the first place.

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Sir John Hall – Newcastle need change

Former Newcastle United owner Sir John Hall thinks the time should be called on Steve’s tenure at Newcastle.

This is what he has told BBC Radio 5 Live’s Sportsweek:

“I’m like every fan, I’m utterly depressed that we’re in a relegation battle again. We shouldn’t be there.”  “If I was Mike Ashley I’d be tearing my hair out. He’s put money in to buy players and they’re not gelling.”

“You’ve got to ask yourself what’s going on, and it all comes down to management.”  “Steve’s not getting the players to play for him and it’s maybe time that he goes. You need someone to harness the team.”

“Something’s not right there and you need change, it’s the only thing.” “Does Mike Ashley have the confidence to keep the manager there until the end of the season?” 

“You’ve got to motivate the players, but it’s not happening out there – and that’s got to come down to management.” “If they’re not gelling together then I would change. If I was the owner again I would have somebody in mind to bring them in.”

“That’s the gamble you take, but at this moment in time we are prime candidates for relegation.” “We should not be in this position and you have got to ask yourselves why we are?”

“Ashley’s got to step back, it’s his responsibility, he has put the cash in, and it hasn’t happened. So he’s got to put a rescue plan in.” “I would be inclined to say to the manager ‘it’s time to go’ and bring somebody else in.”

Newcastle have 10 games left to save their season, and if we can get an experienced manager in, who has good man-management skills and can motivate the players, there’s still a chance we can survive in the Premier League – but since we have lost five of the last six games it’s looking very dodgy at the moment.

But the fans would unite behind a new manager and the players would essentially be given a second chance – and there would be hope.

If McClaren stays in charge there is no hope.

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208 responses so far ↓

  • 1 JackButler // Mar 6, 2016 at 3:04 PM

    Replace the manager or get relegated, it’s that simple, but in truth the manager is not the real problem at the club, he is simply the result of the real problem

  • 2 ToonBano // Mar 6, 2016 at 3:04 PM

    I feel very strongly that he needs to go. He’s not a manager, he’s a conman. More detail see here:

    http://www.toonbano.com/2016/03/steve-mcclaren-is-no-manager-hes.html#.VtxGfNTfWrU

  • 3 Rotonda heights // Mar 6, 2016 at 3:05 PM

    ed

    look who runs the club. decisiveness isn’t their strong suit.

  • 4 lesh // Mar 6, 2016 at 3:08 PM

    John Hall reckons our plight’s down to management, McClaren?

    Sir John, you’ve got it wrong – it’s not just McClaren, it’s down to management at all levels!

  • 5 lesh // Mar 6, 2016 at 3:11 PM

    And, the Observer’s saying that Berahino’ll be off to Spurs.

    No surprise there and Charnley knew that his bids for him would be wasted – all done to con the fans yet again.

  • 6 ilovetoon8788 // Mar 6, 2016 at 3:12 PM

    So mclaren is not getting the sack. We are royally screwed now. Doomed. We won’t be back for a long long time. We deserve it though. Players like sissoko has been an absolute disgrace to the shirt.

  • 7 Lindisfarne // Mar 6, 2016 at 3:16 PM

    The players performances have not picked up very far from last season, so is there a problem more associated to the club rather than the Head Coach?

    That being said, it is still up to the man who sends the players on to the field needs to make sure they are fully motivated to perform at the best of their abilities. At the moment that is apparently not happening and SMC is failing, without the strength to enforce an adequate solution.

  • 8 NoahJ // Mar 6, 2016 at 3:16 PM

    if ashley doesn’t have the balls to sack mclaren, then he deserves everything he gets (guaranteed relegation and loss of outrageous money, industry value, reputation, and subsequent ability to sell the club).

    It’s just tragic that we all have to suffer for it too

  • 9 JackButler // Mar 6, 2016 at 3:17 PM

    If he does stay I can’t see us winning another game all season and given our next run of games it is simply criminal that he be allowed to continue.

    Put simply, we deserve to go down for the way we are and have been run over the years.

  • 10 geordiemark // Mar 6, 2016 at 3:20 PM

    john hall shouldn’t talk hes the one who sold us out at the start selling the club to Ashley, shepard as well but he was in hospital at the time but still no excuses yous took the money and ran and with massive debts to so yous 2 take the blame in selling us down the river with Ashely

  • 11 geordiemark // Mar 6, 2016 at 3:23 PM

    mr Ashley you may own Newcastle united but the fans own the club, we will always be here and we will always support our team no matter what, if we go to the championship then that’s the way it is but doesn’t matter because we are still the heartbeat of this club all you are is the man who just sits there and takes every penny you can just like john hall and freddy shepard done

  • 12 JackButler // Mar 6, 2016 at 3:23 PM

    Pardews inability to turn round a losing run continues as they go down to 10 men Liverpool

  • 13 Ron Knee // Mar 6, 2016 at 3:25 PM

    Does anybody know when the meeting is/was?

  • 14 Rotonda heights // Mar 6, 2016 at 3:26 PM

    hehe

    At least ”I’m winner” and ”my teams always play on the front foot” AP is giving SM a run for his money!!! Worst run in CP’s history. Sound familiar. NUFC can really pick managers!!

  • 15 Tsunki // Mar 6, 2016 at 3:29 PM

    Ashley threw a wad of cash at the problem without taking responsibility for it’s effectiveness. it’s basically a rich man whose brand project is threatened with revenue loss chucking a quick fix at a long term fundamental problem. That stupid video about him getting us to win something was immediately devolved on his board minions who aren’t up to the task. The club is decaying from the academy upwards and he has,allowed all this to happen. Anyone think this will ever change?

  • 16 JackButler // Mar 6, 2016 at 3:29 PM

    Ron

    Reported for either two or three this afternoon.

    Just looked at our fixtures and we could easily get out of this mess if we brought in the right man as we play all the sides around us, but I can’t see us picking up more than four points if SM stays

  • 17 Belfast // Mar 6, 2016 at 3:31 PM

    The scowl on Pardews face lol

  • 18 Tsunki // Mar 6, 2016 at 3:32 PM

    Pardew looking less mediocre every match.

  • 19 WWSBRD // Mar 6, 2016 at 3:33 PM

    I don’t see us surviving tbh I think yesterday we needed to win and we fell well short

    Truly don’t understand considering the squad we have just how poor we have been

  • 20 Rotonda heights // Mar 6, 2016 at 3:33 PM

    geordiemark

    if Ash sits there taking every penny and fans won’t do a thing about it, it’s not much of a club left is it.

  • 21 Belfast // Mar 6, 2016 at 3:34 PM

    Aye 12 without a win in the league now.

  • 22 JackButler // Mar 6, 2016 at 3:37 PM

    WW

    Yesterday showed just how poor we are technically and mentally, Shelvey, Elliot and Jannmatt stood up while the rest hid away and caved

  • 23 toon kk // Mar 6, 2016 at 3:37 PM

    Macca’s on the board, he’s not going to sack himself. MA doesn’t know enough about football to understand

  • 24 terencelim // Mar 6, 2016 at 3:37 PM

    Don’t even try to compare Ashley to John Hall or FS. Back in those days at least the fans had some great time and never had to worry about all the decisions made by the owner.

  • 25 Belfast // Mar 6, 2016 at 3:38 PM

    I don’t see us surviving either. That was a must win yesterday. Although we did get lucky with Southamptons late equaliser.

  • 26 Lindisfarne // Mar 6, 2016 at 3:38 PM

    If the decision of the Board is that sacking SMC will not benefit the relegation battle can only be based on two reasons. The problem is with the players not taking personal responsibility, having an injury ravaged squad with a lack of competition and a turn around is apparently imminently possible. Or there is a lack of alternative candidates, with the effect of last seasons ruling out passing the chalice on to an Assistant. The circumstances are actually quite different, sacking someone or removing them from their direct responsibilities shows that hard decisions can be made to benefit the club and that no one is safe.

    Those International players that may already know that they have lost their places for Euro2016 have been let down by the club, lied to in regard to over optimistic targets and have very little interest in being told that they are not good enough to play ‘consistent’ football. They and we can see that the quality of leadership is inadequate, unable to evolve and improve.

  • 27 Tsunki // Mar 6, 2016 at 3:38 PM

    Hmmm. Maybe if we get a new manager Pardew may live up to his lifeline-giver reputation and swap cp’s place with us? it’s a thought. 🙂

  • 28 Rotonda heights // Mar 6, 2016 at 3:38 PM

    Ed, Mag 52, and Manx, would you finally admit we are seeing the real AP now. His infamous lack of any plan B has seen him found out yet again, as always.

  • 29 bladeuser // Mar 6, 2016 at 3:39 PM

    Read it and weep fixture for next season
    BURTON ALBION V NEWCASTLE UNITED
    Nufc should be favourites though as some of the BURTON players are working the night shift
    ASH OUT SMAC OUT COLO OUT CARR OUT PENFOLD OUT SHEEP ? OUT

  • 30 Rotonda heights // Mar 6, 2016 at 3:41 PM

    i just think mclaren’s presence around the place is bringing everyone down. Just removing him would be a start, whether a new manager comes in or not, as clearly no one has any time or respect for him.

  • 31 wynsleap // Mar 6, 2016 at 3:42 PM

    If Ashley doesn’t take the opportunity to sack McTavish today it either means:
    1. He’s not bothered about the improved money next year. as he couldn’t really care less about the club or the fans.
    2. He’s convinced (stupidly) that we’ll come back straight up (no Hughton this time).
    3. He’ll think he won’t have to fork out for top class players (or managers) in that league so he’ll save money.
    Either way it’s us the fans that will suffer. I think that if we do go down (and it’s looking almost a knocking bet) we could be in the wilderness for a few years. The likes of Leicester, West Brom, Palace, Stoke, Bournemouth etc (and God forbid the Mackems), all of whom in the past have not been in the same sphere as us may be super rich and established by the time we claw ourselves back into the elite.

  • 32 JackButler // Mar 6, 2016 at 3:45 PM

    With the amount of money he stands to lose he has to act as there are zero signs that SM can turn this mess around, Ashley cares about one thing and that money and carrying on jeopardises hundreds and hundreds of millions in TV revenue and advertising.

    The reason he splashed so much cash this season was to remain in this league and I can’t see him allowing us to go down rather than replace the manager

  • 33 Rotonda heights // Mar 6, 2016 at 3:50 PM

    it’s so sad that our local talent playing yesterday, ie saylor, colback and dummet are all championship / league 1 players at best.

    Saviet and Doumbia must be thinking what the hell have they got in to. Don’t know why we didn’t ship cisse and tiote out as both seem to be hardly ever available.

  • 34 WWSBRD // Mar 6, 2016 at 3:50 PM

    JB
    Yeah that’ll happen with NUFC too many disappearing players, they fit the transfer strategy perfectly though

    On the Ashley vs Hall/Shepard debate at least with Hall/Shepard they wanted the club to succeed they made mistakes but it was always with the idea of success in mind and to get the best they could on the pitch…anyone want to argue Ashley does that?

  • 35 Tsunki // Mar 6, 2016 at 3:51 PM

    Our previous much maligned owners who apparently almost ruined this club did not leave the club to Ashley in this sorry state. Ashley doesn’t have any of the vital spark of at least caring about this club but I’m sure the loss of millions in worldwide TV advertising never mind the revenue for being on it should be enough impetus for him to act, J less he fancies making a series of Mission Statement videos every season end

    “I will not sell this club until we have beaten Leigh RMI in the Evo-Stik Challenge Cup by the next decade”

  • 36 Ron Knee // Mar 6, 2016 at 3:51 PM

    JB

    Thanks!

  • 37 AncientC // Mar 6, 2016 at 3:53 PM

    Perhaps Ashley should accept Hall’s advice, after all, Hall was good enough not to state the obvious, when Ashley claimed he had no idea that football clubs bought players with installments/staggered payments. A fact that is common knowledge.

  • 38 Rotonda heights // Mar 6, 2016 at 3:54 PM

    JB

    But that being the case you think Ash would employ someone who does know football and would get us a sampauli or Nuno, Garcia, Laudrup etc who the fans could relate to and enjoy watching their team again.

    Moyes is hardly going to get fans excited after his 2 recent dismal failures and s—e football.
    He’ll just go in the same categry as dalglish, souness, SA, AP, JC and now worst of all SM.

  • 39 lesh // Mar 6, 2016 at 3:57 PM

    Lindisfarne

    If Ashley really is keen to do something about our plight he’ll discuss the options with Charnley – who’ll not have bothered his backside to sound out potential successors to McClaren.

    Ashley can either:

    Overrule any Charnley desire to stay with McClaren or

    Be persuaded by Charnley to stick with what we’ve got.

    If Charnley persuades Ashley to stick with McCl and we are relegated, then both Charnley and McClaren’ll be given other responsibilities.

    But if we survive, then that’ll be down to good fortune rather than good management as it was last season. That being so, both Charnley and McClaren’s competence must be questioned and they deserves dismissal.

    And it is to be hoped that other aspects of the Club’s structure, philosophy, youth development and scouting be reviewed.

    If Ashley is concerned about the Club and wants to win things, he really must put the Club under major surgery and act to make it an ambitious and professionally run business.

    If he doesn’t act at this stage of the season, his personal reputation and credibility in the wider business and financial world will be called into question by the stock market and that’ll impact further on SD.

    Ashley’s Inna difficult situation and if he doesn’t intervene and make changes now, he’ll be seen as presiding over relegation, again, and stand accused of caring nothing for our club, Newcastle United.

  • 40 Munster Mag // Mar 6, 2016 at 4:00 PM

    Rotunda not sure why u rate laudrup higher than moyes. Apart from pretty football. He was run out of town by swansea…

  • 41 Munster Mag // Mar 6, 2016 at 4:01 PM

    Rotunda i saw first half highlights…palace looked better…what happened second half?

  • 42 Tsunki // Mar 6, 2016 at 4:01 PM

    Frankly, Ashley has to insert something rocket propelled up Lees jacksie or get himself sorted with a surprisingly top level coach. Now is the time to act, not in championship preseason.

  • 43 lochinvar // Mar 6, 2016 at 4:02 PM

    We’re after High Noon
    Do we have to wait until After Eight
    Or Four in the Morning for a decision
    How difficult is it to hand over dtwo P45’s to Charnley and McLaren.
    Let Carr retire gracefully.

    Make it so

  • 44 only one bobby robson // Mar 6, 2016 at 4:03 PM

    Our only hope is that Ashley gets rid of Carr charnley and mclaren as I think the players Carr has recommended are not good enough for our club . I think Brendan Rodgers or rafa Benitez would be good not sure how rafa would fare with relegation fears but reckon Rodgers has attacking tactics that could see us win games I also think Rodgers has battling qualities we require to stay up

  • 45 Ron Knee // Mar 6, 2016 at 4:04 PM

    Perhaps they’ll go for a face-saving solution. Kick McClaren upstairs and appoint a caretaker coach either internally (Cathro?) or externally (who knows?).

  • 46 WWSBRD // Mar 6, 2016 at 4:07 PM

    Ron
    So all of the upheaval from losing the manager with none of the good will new manager bounce? Does sound very Newcastle a united doesn’t it

  • 47 geordie1892 // Mar 6, 2016 at 4:08 PM

    Bringing in a manager until the end of the season, on a massive bonus for keeping us up, would seem the best option this late in the day.

    The players need to take a hard look at themselves also, a bare minimum expectancy for professional athletes is they work hard and give 100%. Most of them simply don’t give a f**k!

  • 48 Lindisfarne // Mar 6, 2016 at 4:10 PM

    lesh

    I suppose it all hinges on how much MA stands by what he says.

  • 49 Tsunki // Mar 6, 2016 at 4:10 PM

    Btw if anyone thinks Mike Ashley wasted money on PR, think about this, last season it was Ashley Out equally if not more than Pardew. This time Ashley Out is nowhere to be seen and McLaren is fulfilling his role as patsy and whipping boy. All it took was a three minutes video and the lie that he was only interested in the club. The fans have bought the idea that it’s all the minor employees fault and the heat is off the owner.

  • 50 Rotonda heights // Mar 6, 2016 at 4:11 PM

    can’t believe we wasted those 18 days in the sun not lining someone up. is there ever any forward planning at this club. I think I answered my own question.

  • 51 Ron Knee // Mar 6, 2016 at 4:11 PM

    WW

    Yes. If there’s a hard way to do something they’ll find it!

  • 52 Bambams // Mar 6, 2016 at 4:14 PM

    Mac is head coach…..
    Bring in Moyes (Another ) as ‘Manager’ .
    If he sacks Mac he will have to pay his contract up AND still have to pay a new ‘manager’.
    Wouldn’t surprise me if Mac then walked.
    Ash will look at his financial outlay above anything else.
    Imo

  • 53 Rotonda heights // Mar 6, 2016 at 4:16 PM

    tsunki

    tragially ash has splashed the cash but the horse of which he speaks of has well and truly bolted.

    In normal circs for such a dispicable individual as Ash I would find it very amusing the idea he will drop a load of money and the tacky SD and wonga signs won’t get anywhere like the same coverage.

    The penny still hasn’t dropped though.Ash knows nowt about football but persists with taking advice from completely the wrong people. So in probably comes Moyes, press play and repeat and the cycle is never broken.

  • 54 Essex Geordie Bill // Mar 6, 2016 at 4:21 PM

    It said this morning on BBC text page that we are in talks with Moyes.

    If that’s true then it doesn’t look is if the club are in a hurry to make an appointment, as already stated by others they have had plenty of time to get something in place. I would have thought Moyes would jump at the chance never mind go into ‘negotiations’.

  • 55 Sazzer // Mar 6, 2016 at 4:22 PM

    I would like Philip Cocu to take over. But I can’t see him being available until PSV have won the league and are out of Champions League.

    Rudi Garcia is manager that’s available and that haven’t failed as much as Moyes and Benitez.

  • 56 Rotonda heights // Mar 6, 2016 at 4:24 PM

    munster

    Did the usual, ran out of ideas, no plan B and were against only 10 men for long periods. liverpool could have had more, hitting the post etc.

  • 57 Rotonda heights // Mar 6, 2016 at 4:26 PM

    munster

    as a short term option i think laudrup would free the players up and let them play. It is forgotten he had an initial very good 18 months at swansea.

  • 58 toonluvva // Mar 6, 2016 at 4:30 PM

    We might just get an new manager sometime soon following todays meeting between Messrs Ashley and Charnley.

    That might reinvigorate our team, and from here on to the end of the season we might climb out of trouble.

    However, should we finsih above 18th place how will Mr Ashley proceed from there?

    I doubt there will be much in the way of money made available for the summer transfer window. I reckon he’ll want to see players leave before bringing in replacements.

    Of course no one will want many of our players, you can all create your own list here, so it will be the few better quality players who will leave.

    That will leave us with a vastly reduced squad, and possibly one with no real quality players in it.

    So all in all we will be back in the same position this time next season.

    We know where the REAL problem lies. Like all businesses it starts at the top and permeates downward. Ashley appointed Charnley, Charnley hired McClaren. Ashley appointed a board to oversee the day to day running of the club. This provides him with a figleaf of respectability.

    Until we have new ownership there will be no way forward. The sad thing is that I have been writing this view for the last fours at least and nothing has changed.

  • 59 SPRINGY // Mar 6, 2016 at 4:30 PM

    half expecting a freddie shepard quote in the press before to long now sir john hall has commented!lol

  • 60 SPRINGY // Mar 6, 2016 at 4:33 PM

    maybe shepard should take charnleys job!….as long as some one else controls the coin like!lol

  • 61 SPRINGY // Mar 6, 2016 at 4:36 PM

    has the man city game been scheduled yet?

  • 62 BlacknWhiteBarmy // Mar 6, 2016 at 4:41 PM

    Im guessing the big problem is MONEY – Fatash wont want to pay out compensation to Mclaraen and Co as well as paying a huge lump someone willing to steer the titanic.

    Personally I smile after every defeat – less revenue for the cash loving toad and hopefully one game nearer to getting an owner that has ambition beyond money!

    Also loving the fact that MP’s are delving into FAtAshes empire and his tat com is out of the FTSE – LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO

  • 63 Munster Mag // Mar 6, 2016 at 4:45 PM

    Rotunda i still reckon pardew is a lower mid table manager but am looking more and more incorrect. :). I wonder what the journos who touted him for man u are saying now? I think i owe you a cyber pint rotunda 🙂

  • 64 Big Pappa Cissé // Mar 6, 2016 at 4:45 PM

    Saw this coming a mile away and accepted relegation a few weeks ago . Trying to make the inevitable a bit easier to take .

    I said we should have went for a proven PL striker and at least one new CB and a LB as we were an injury away or two from a crisis . We got none and now our CB pairing is Lascelles and Taylor with Dummet one of the worst LB’s we have ever had .

    Also McLaren should have been gone in January let alone the perfect opportunity a few weeks ago and then we may have had a chance to survive however now I can’t see it unless we bring in someone ASAP and results go our way .

    Also it is about time Sissoko & Colback were dropped as they have been poor for a while now, and waiting for a young (yet promising) Mitrovic to save us isn’t going to work . We bought Doumbia FFS and he can’t even get a start .

    With a new manager and playing something like :

    –Townsend——Wijnaldum——Shelvey——Aarons–

    ———————-Doumbia———Perez——————

  • 65 Big Pappa Cissé // Mar 6, 2016 at 4:46 PM

    we may stay up by the skin of our teeth.

  • 66 Mag52 // Mar 6, 2016 at 4:47 PM

    Next manager to start next week (hopefully), in my order of preference, Pearson, Moyes, Benitez, Rodgers.
    Who do I think will be appointed ? Cathro as caretaker till the end of the season with a review at that time.

  • 67 BlacknWhiteBarmy // Mar 6, 2016 at 4:47 PM

    And another thing – whilst some players go missing in games; they cannot expect to be world beaters every game (I know 1 would do) 🙂
    The fact is Newcastle fans are very quick to attack players that they think aren’t trying ……. cant really prove this either way but the likes of Vianna, J Dahl Thomasson, Luuk De Jong all proved themselves after been hounded out – maybe the young keeper Alnwick will be next to prove this or even thauvan or Cabella. We have to let players settle – as well as let players get games and consistent team orders (unlike McLaren).

  • 68 Mag52 // Mar 6, 2016 at 4:55 PM

    Hey Munster Man, what’s up with you?
    You never said AP was a world beater, lower to mid table I think you had him, and you won’t be far out this season.
    Three premiership teams put out away from home in the FA Cup, with Reading to come in the quarters. Beat them and CP are at Wembley.
    What wouldn’t we have given for a similar season ?

  • 69 Jib // Mar 6, 2016 at 4:56 PM

    If you compare our situation to Chelsea’s with Mourinho , Hiddink came in on 19th December and didn’t particularly knock doors out of windows but in his first 10 matches got 18 points which if that were us would give us 42 at seasons end.

  • 70 Ron Knee // Mar 6, 2016 at 4:58 PM

    So. Farewell then
    Nancy Reagan.

  • 71 Tinman // Mar 6, 2016 at 4:58 PM

    Only way we can stay up is with a new manager. Nothing created in our last 3 games, completely battered. We need a manager with a bit of bite, someone not afraid to take on the press….

    https://twitter.com/skysportsnewshq/status/706516614150094850

  • 72 hibbitt // Mar 6, 2016 at 4:59 PM

    Mag52
    have i read that right you would pick pearson as your first choice above moyes and pearson or moyes above rafa benitez is that right !!!

  • 73 BlacknWhiteBarmy // Mar 6, 2016 at 4:59 PM

    Play the SBR card and get Mourinho till the end of the season – might even attend a few games if that was the case

  • 74 Rotonda heights // Mar 6, 2016 at 5:03 PM

    hibbit

    mag 52 is a guy who thinks pardew is as good as pardew thinks he is. credibility shot i’m afraid.

  • 75 hibbitt // Mar 6, 2016 at 5:06 PM

    Rotonda heights
    thanks that explains that then if that’s his level good pick then

  • 76 Rotonda heights // Mar 6, 2016 at 5:07 PM

    mag 52

    so possibly winning 5 random cup games compensates another record losing streak and dropping to 15th on same points as the 16th placed team. You need help bud.

  • 77 21st Century Schizoid Man // Mar 6, 2016 at 5:07 PM

    @ soixante neuf

    If only we had the quality of Chelsea’s squad.
    Just goes to show how much football is determined by confidence though.

  • 78 Rotonda heights // Mar 6, 2016 at 5:10 PM

    cheers munster

    Tbh it slightly lessens the pain in our own dire situation.

  • 79 Big Pappa Cissé // Mar 6, 2016 at 5:10 PM

    On Pardew, I am glad the smug look has been well and truly wiped of his face .

    He wasn’t at fault for the main problems NUFC have had over the last couple of years, but him breaking numerous bad records (which he is now doing at Palace)
    head-butting people and kicking out HBA made me despise him .

    Also all the journalists should offer an apology to us so called “deluded” Geordies when they were calling for Pardew to be the next England manager .

  • 80 Rotonda heights // Mar 6, 2016 at 5:11 PM

    big papa @ 64

    Spot on.

  • 81 Big Pappa Cissé // Mar 6, 2016 at 5:14 PM

    Also how amazing would it be for us to stay up and Palace be relegated .

    With 30 points still up for grabs and their form it gives me a glimmer of hope 😉 .

  • 82 lochinvar // Mar 6, 2016 at 5:16 PM

    See Scousers are linked with HBA for next season
    In our case HBA will indicate Home to Burton Albion

  • 83 jordijohnty // Mar 6, 2016 at 5:22 PM

    sean o’driscoll just parted company from high flying walsall in div. one. Coincidence? Let’s be honest , that’s going to be our level. (Benitez…. you suckers)

  • 84 Mag52 // Mar 6, 2016 at 5:26 PM

    Rotonda.

    Only you could airily dismiss ‘random’ cup wins like that.
    As for losing runs, they happen in football, as do winning runs. If your team puts in a winning run and points on the board before a losing one, you’re probably going to be ok.

  • 85 Laurent Robert 32 // Mar 6, 2016 at 5:28 PM

    No chance would I want Pearson. Apart from the miraculous last run of games, they were crap most of the season with him were they not?

    Dear me, how many more dross British managers are we going to be subjected to? McLaren, Pardew, Souness, Allardyce, Roeder etc. And the question was put to Sol Campbell this morning as to why? Wake up, crap British managers, crap style of play and crap results. Only Hughton I liked, but even he was managing Championship and with more than useful players for the level.

    The managers are crap. The mind boggles as to why these imbeciles haven’t forked out for a Benitez, Klopp, Garcia, Pochettino, Koeman, Bilic, De Boer etc. Style of play and some pedigree than the ‘British’ tag.

    I can’t stand this theory of… if something is lacking in attitude, get a manager to to sort it out by just giving them a kick up the backside.

    That’s nonsense. Souness came in to ‘sort out’ the players and give them a kick up the backside etc. What really happened was that all he did was come in and then play very poor football bexause he was crap as well! He also chased Bellamy and Robert out if I remember correctly, couple of Bobby’s regulars.

    Good managers will sort out a situation through good experience, correcting obvious faults, and good man management to make the players play. Klopp even said today, players don’t need to just work hard, they need to be properly coached and setup right (or along those lines.)

    Unbelievably annoying all this.

  • 86 EllaGuru // Mar 6, 2016 at 5:28 PM

    No statement from NUFC I presume indicates that nothing is going to be changed and we are on our way to the Championship.
    Seething with anger. Yesterday’s performance was embarrassing.

  • 87 Big Pappa Cissé // Mar 6, 2016 at 5:35 PM

    @ Laurent Robert 32

    I agree m8, name the top 10, or even 20 managers in world football and their wouldn’t be a British name even close .

    We need someone like Poccetino to change the whole ethos of the club with something like high pressing and punishing fitness regimes .

    Not the same shite served up from our last handful of the best of Britain has to offer .

  • 88 hibbitt // Mar 6, 2016 at 5:36 PM

    not even sure the board are having meeting never mind sacking the manager !!!

  • 89 Laurent Robert 32 // Mar 6, 2016 at 5:36 PM

    Mag52, you haven’t analysed how he’s getting his wins. Mainly from his big defenders and from set plays which pretty much amounts to a punt into the box with their big defenders.

    Hardly from good quality open play. You could play Bolasie and Zaha without a manager and they’d do the same thing, both are skilled players, especially Bolasie.

    Nicking games from set pieces with hardly an team open play goals – Poor

    No ‘Europe’
    No ‘hands are tied’
    No ‘when we sold Cabaye’
    No ‘too hyped’
    No ‘science’
    No ‘grass was too long’
    No ‘fans’ being a problem
    No ‘players who aren’t 6ft 4′

    No thank you. He’ crap, and it once again proving it as many of us already knew.

  • 90 Mag52 // Mar 6, 2016 at 5:37 PM

    Hibbitt.

    In our present situation, we need an @rse kicker, and that’s Pearson. IMO Moyes would need longer to turn things round, and we don’t have that time.
    Benitez I’ve ruled out as I don’t honestly think he’d give us the time of day, and Rodgers I can’t stand.

  • 91 EllaGuru // Mar 6, 2016 at 5:38 PM

    @ Big Pappa Cisse 87
    Bargain basement board hiring bargain basement staff. Do you really think that Mashley will firstly pay off McLaren and then splash out on a renowned head coach? Or do you think he will trust Charnley to make that decision?

  • 92 Laurent Robert 32 // Mar 6, 2016 at 5:41 PM

    Big Pappa, as usual, I agree.

    Unbelievably annoying. I was singing the anti-manager songs as well yesterday at the top of my voice.

    Yesterday was a disgrace.

  • 93 Mister Tuff // Mar 6, 2016 at 5:44 PM

    You would assume that if Mr Tubbs had half a brain – moves would be afoot to replace Wally Blusterman -surely.
    Somebody has just posted that there is no evidence that Wally can save us – that seems about right to me – all he comes out with is “we need a reaction” – what a load of hooey.
    Does anyone have a link about the statement yesterday before the game that the players all supported Wally -(smells a bit of a PR stunt).

    And please – let’s not upset the remnants of the pro Percy Brigade. To a man as the weeks go by they are gradually withdrawing their previous support. They are crying in their beer and perhaps those slices of eel pie do not taste as good now.

  • 94 Rotonda heights // Mar 6, 2016 at 5:46 PM

    mag 52

    oh that’s ok then just miss relelgation possibly but might just make it to a cup semi final. Whatever the opposite to seeing the bigger picture is you’ve got it in full blown stereo.

    Only dullards would think AP is a good manager and the definition of stupidity is doing the same thing over and over again hoping it will eventually work.

    From the horses mouth:-

    Crystal Palace fans: ‘We end up with no ambition to win the game and try and hang on against 10 men. Total shambles.’

  • 95 Mag52 // Mar 6, 2016 at 5:47 PM

    Laurent.

    Wins are wins and worth three points every time, whether it’s Barcelona playing at their supreme best, or us winning 1-0 at Bournemouth earlier in the season.

  • 96 Big Pappa Cissé // Mar 6, 2016 at 5:48 PM

    @ EllaGuru

    No way Ashley and Co. would go for someone who actually wants some form of control and a say in transfers .

    Ashley is trying to run this club akin to Sports direct with cheap tat and making as much money as possible .

    He is obviously a smart man being a billionaire of course, but we should have invested steadily over the last few seasons and could have been a comfortable mid table side with a chance at a cup run .

    When all is said and done (and unless we come straight back up if relegated) he will lose more money in the long run than if he was actually a bit more ambitious .

    I would laugh if I weren’t an NUFC fan, and that’s what we have become unfortunately .

  • 97 Laurent Robert 32 // Mar 6, 2016 at 5:52 PM

    Tuff, it was absolute PR that statement that. John Anderson was saying on the full-time phone-in that they tried to find the source and nobody would own up. A media outlet just ran the statement possibly without verification he said. More nonsense from Bishop by the sounds of it.

  • 98 Big Pappa Cissé // Mar 6, 2016 at 5:53 PM

    How McLaren is a PL manager I will never know .

    Who though a sacked Championship manager was going to take us to the next level FFS .

    We have a 3 week break and his master plan 9that he is being paid handsomely for) is Manu Rivierre ? , a guy that scored a grand total of one goal last season .

    I could understand if you know, we hadn’t just brought in a new striker who’s record in the Champions League is nothing short of great .

  • 99 EllaGuru // Mar 6, 2016 at 5:56 PM

    @ Big Pappa Cisse
    I agree completely. I dont think Ashley is a complete fool. I do feel that he is trying to apply his successful business model in the wrong way however.
    Square pegs, round holes and all that.
    As you say, steady investment in current and future squad would have been the right way. Investment in the right backroom staff (not Beardsley to run the youth setup) to develop both current and future squad would also have helped.
    Some of the decisions taken over the last years beggars belief! We really are not Jokin Ere 😉

  • 100 Mister Tuff // Mar 6, 2016 at 5:56 PM

    LR – thanks for that – I was wondering where it originated from. Without anybody coming forward to be counted – it does now suggest more PR trickery from the club.

  • 101 magscar // Mar 6, 2016 at 5:56 PM

    Tsunki

    Last thread – couple of things

    I was irritated bit less than hurt? 🙂

    Yeah I am probably bottom of popularity stakes – only way is up but its a long time coming 🙂

    Unlike Ed I don’t need the hits and I am not a competitor. I post when I like and give my own thoughts – up to others obviously to read, skip, challenge as the mood takes them. Often get no responses but see similar comments or phrases popping up so assume some have read.

    I am no Ashley supporter just don’t blame him for everything and view his mistakes less severely than some. It isn’t an either “with us” or “against us” scenario at least not yet. As to getting rid of him good luck – for my part I prefer to dwell on the possible but each to their own.

    My reading of your posts last night was that you showed a lack of sensitivity or care as to how most were probably feeling. Humour has its place but last night wasn’t it and rather than lightening the mood it just seemed you seized an opportunity to poke even more fun for your amusement. I for one was not laughing after another big let down and a growing likelihood of relegation. It was irritating me like McClaren’s inability to stop grinning as he fronts up to cameras after another defeat.

    Just me? OK I made my point, moved on – you explained your point this pm and I have responded ( family have been and gone ) as I try to do to any reasonable post out of Blog politeness so not seeking to make ongoing issue as I am sure you appreciate.

  • 102 sparky55 // Mar 6, 2016 at 6:00 PM

    @96

    Totally disagree

    Whoever he brings in til the end of the season doesn’t need any control over anything…he just needs to re-invigorate the team and get enough points to keep us up.

    Whoever gets the job going forward is the person who will need to negotiate levels of control…but the man to step into Maclaren’s shoes just need to be a fcuking miracle worker

  • 103 Laurent Robert 32 // Mar 6, 2016 at 6:02 PM

    Mag52, that’s where we disagree. If I want to look at numbers on a board I’d sit in on a Mathematics Lecture.

    I want to see 90 mins of football played with an enjoyment level, skill, oganisation competency, and attacking positivity and at a level to which we can admire the game being played and a level far beyond our capability. If you have those foundations, points will follow.

    If you can’t enjoy it, what’s the point of playing?

    People like Cryuff, De Boer, Pele, Keegan, have done interviews saying a similar thing to what I believe. I’m in good company.

  • 104 sparky55 // Mar 6, 2016 at 6:10 PM

    It’s mathematically possible we can stay up…it’s statistically impossible looking at form, the manager and the squad.

    We’re down for sure irrespective of who comes in which is why Cathro will take over when Maclaren gets sacked tomorrow morning.

  • 105 anthc // Mar 6, 2016 at 6:12 PM

    Ashley tried to be the nice guy splashing the cash. However, he trusted an incompetent idiot and management to spend it. Due to that he has to take responsibility.
    I’m just getting over that pathetic effort I watched yesterday and still can’t believe mclaren is still here.
    For me there was no positives from yesterday whatsoever. All the players were well under par. Perez scored but was lightweight and just jogged around the pitch. Colback has no pace and shouldn’t be anywhere near a back four. Sissoko who I had high hopes for was a disgrace and gini also disappeared again. Shelvey was average however proved that swansea had our pants down, 12 mill!
    I’ve tried to be optimistic these last few weeks hoping things would get better but have now accepted we are garbage and will likely be in the championship. I hope all the players are made aware that if we do get relegated they can forget any transfer until we’re back up as they have to shoulder some blame too.

  • 106 Belfast // Mar 6, 2016 at 6:13 PM

    Did anybody actually read this statement from the players? Didn’t see it anywhere myself.

  • 107 check the toastie // Mar 6, 2016 at 6:16 PM

    looks like we are going down like.
    disgraceful club, he must be sacked now to have any hope.

  • 108 Dragon64 // Mar 6, 2016 at 6:17 PM

    if hall hadn’t sold club to ashley wouldn’t be in this mess

  • 109 Tsunki // Mar 6, 2016 at 6:22 PM

    Mag52 – as you are probably going to be the last one out of the Pardew Clubhouse. Can you remember to turn the heater off and switch off the lights when you go?

  • 110 lochinvar // Mar 6, 2016 at 6:23 PM

    Belfast @106
    I think that statement was a scam – incredibly it was given credence by our media partner without checking its authenticity !
    Another indicator of incompetence at the club

  • 111 Rotonda heights // Mar 6, 2016 at 6:23 PM

    sparky

    i would take cathro replacing sm, for now anyway.

  • 112 sing in the corner // Mar 6, 2016 at 6:24 PM

    Evening guys..thought I’d hoy tuppence worth in for the first time since yesterday’s game. It was an excruciating watch obviously. Results have been disastrous for a while but yesterday was the first time I had a true sense that SM has lost support of a good chunk of the squad.
    Perez is loved by the fans and rightly so – a good lad and technically gifted. But in my opinion he was absent for the first half and not a whole lot better in the second, despite his goal.
    Sissoko has been a disinterested ghost of the player he actually is for months now, but Wij’s head was somewhere else too – he normally puts it in at home. Janmaat was bright in spells but there’s a lot of standing with both hands on hips with him now. I wonder has Mitro had some kind of fall out with the coach.
    Gouffran starting in midweek, Rivière yesterday. It wasn’t a 4-4-2, Perez was neither here nor there in terms of supporting Riv.
    Strange selections. Maybe I do now have to accept that SM’s judgement has gone and when the players decide your time is up there is no way back.
    Very, very sad state of affairs. It’s beat makems or endex. But with 10’games to go there’s more torture to come yet. Leicester on telly. Not looking forward to that. Another humiliation against Safc unless someone can work a miracle.
    When’s Townsend fit?
    Sorry for rambling post…
    Gutted!

  • 113 JamesToon // Mar 6, 2016 at 6:25 PM

    we need a long term manager who will play positive and effective football. Not Moyes, someone like Rodgers. Not sure whether he would come to us in the championship, unless we had a total clear out of everyone including Ashley.

  • 114 lochinvar // Mar 6, 2016 at 6:26 PM

    How come no Journo had followed McLaren, Ashley or Carr to the supposed meeting. Where’s the venue ? What time was the meeting ?
    Is it actually fact or fiction or fantasy ?
    We shall see

  • 115 Mag52 // Mar 6, 2016 at 6:27 PM

    Laurent.

    I’m not so sure that we disagree.
    I too would love to watch Barca style football week in week out, and there have been times when NUFC have delivered.(Not recently I hasten to add).
    As a realist, though, I’m quite sure that none of the top managers in football would sign on for us so long as Ashley is here. I’m afraid he’s toxic.
    Similarly, unless MA has really has had a change of heart and decided to let the moths out of his wallet on a more regular basis (I’ll believe it when I see it), we’ll never have the team of quality players to make the style of play we all wish to see a reality.

  • 116 John Akomfrah // Mar 6, 2016 at 6:27 PM

    who gives a shit anymore

    not me,………when they are gone i will return

  • 117 Novocastrian66 // Mar 6, 2016 at 6:28 PM

    Cannot believe the club are going to tough this out. They must act. Hopefully the silence is because they’re negotiating a sever dance package and a deal with the new manager.
    Somehow I doubt it.

  • 118 Novocastrian66 // Mar 6, 2016 at 6:29 PM

    * severance.

  • 119 JamesToon // Mar 6, 2016 at 6:29 PM

    Rotonda

    At first I thought Cathro would be a decent manager to take over mcclaren. But when you think about it, we could go into another carver debacle. He’s never managed before, hardly ever faced the media, the players probably never heard of him before he came here. Yes he’s probably a very good up and coming coach, and possibly a lot of his ideas have been disregarded by SM and PS because they trust each other and not him. At the same time I could see Cathro being a success story of the youngest manager in the league guiding us to safety but can also see him just getting destroyed and not getting any respect from the players. From what I’ve read about him he sees football from a modern, purist perspective. But surely for his first managerial job in football to try and keep us up is way too much to ask and could possibly destroy his career

  • 120 sparky55 // Mar 6, 2016 at 6:30 PM

    rotonda

    Ashley knows we’re 99% going down so his last throw of the dice will always be the cheapest one…hence Cathro.

    Not a bad shout in my book actually…I can sense he’s been frustrated for quite a while now but I doubt he’ll have the full respect of the players by association with Maclaren and I doubt the response from the players will be great enough to keep us up…but at least he’ll be cheap!

  • 121 Jib // Mar 6, 2016 at 6:32 PM

    I’ve just watched a Dan King interview of SM on NUFCtv clearly done much later yesterday.

    From his demeanour McClaren is going nowhere.

    One thing he said which struck a chord
    He talked about a 4 team league at the bottom and we play all of the other 3 in the next 10 games.

  • 122 John Akomfrah // Mar 6, 2016 at 6:32 PM

    good severance for macca and penfold is by the nads

  • 123 Belfast // Mar 6, 2016 at 6:32 PM

    I’ve just been reading it there now. It’s probably been issued by the club with no input from the players. Looks like a sham going by yesterday’s performance.

  • 124 Ron Knee // Mar 6, 2016 at 6:33 PM

    sparky

    Speaking of low-cost solutions, suppose they chose Paul Simpson as caretaker!

  • 125 JamesToon // Mar 6, 2016 at 6:34 PM

    Sparky

    Think about it, at the moment we look very likely to go down and the players just don’t care. If Cathro did take charge and we went down, he could be good for us in the championship. I hear he’s a very analytical and long term thinking coach.

  • 126 toonking // Mar 6, 2016 at 6:35 PM

    RH

    you never followed wise, JFK, lambsarse, hughton or charver.

    What planet are you living on, fantasy football?
    Will you follow the current puppet so heavily when he leaves?

    Will you still moan about appointments like parjew when the puppet arrives?

    Parjew, lambsarse, JFK, mac they all puppets and why did they come here, because ASHLEY WANTS PUPPETS.

    We all want quality managers but they’ve got better jobs, manure, chelski and possibly arsenal.

    We all want quality managers but cashley wants puppets, managers who’ll remain happy enough even with terrible transfer policy.

    KK was given the job but he soon left, hanging onto parjew, charver and mac show signs hughton was sacked because of disagreements.

    ed’s poll is stupid, rather than ask “which manager the fans want?”, it should have asked which manager will ashley appoint?

    doing it like that and you’d see a result like this
    Nigel Pearson 60%,
    David Moyes (25%)
    Brendan Rodgers (14%)
    Rafa Benitez (1%)

    ASHLEY appoints PUPPETS.
    they EXPECTED to do CRAP with OTHER TEAMS
    ASHLEY will CONTINUE to appoints PUPPETS.
    We’ll CONTINUE to do CRAP
    ASHLEY appoints ANOTHER PUPPET.
    RELEGATION will COME
    ASHLEY appoints another PUPPETS.

    live up to the fact we’re stuck with puppets until he’s gone

  • 127 sparky55 // Mar 6, 2016 at 6:36 PM

    jamestoon

    Agreed

  • 128 Ron Knee // Mar 6, 2016 at 6:39 PM

    toonking

    Why do you call him “Parjew”?

  • 129 GeordieTwo // Mar 6, 2016 at 6:42 PM

    Have we negotiated that severe dance package with McLaren yet? Well it had better be severe that’s all I’m saying…..Harrumph! I want to see some tango and some mamba in there…..Just work him til he drops! That’ll teach the ugly little man!

  • 130 sparky55 // Mar 6, 2016 at 6:42 PM

    If I were any one of those four managers linked with the “keep them up job” I’d take it in a flash because it’s a win win appointment.

    No-one thinks we’re gonna stay up so if you take the 10 match job and we go down then nothing lost and a good egg for trying and you can make all the excuses you like so IMO no loss of reputation

    if however you take the 10 match job and you keep us up then you’re a miracle worker and pretty much have a job for life.

    Nowt to lose in my book

  • 131 GeordieTwo // Mar 6, 2016 at 6:44 PM

    It was Novo’s idea @117 to negotiate a severe dance package with McLaren but I’m in full agreement! Make it absolutely visicious! Dance his little legs off!

  • 132 jimmysmith // Mar 6, 2016 at 6:47 PM

    Perhaps because he thinks its both funny and derogatory, without fully understanding that most would read it as unthinking bigotry and dismiss him as a knucklehead.

  • 133 GeordieTwo // Mar 6, 2016 at 6:47 PM

    If we’re going to have puppets all the time toonking we need some say in it! I want a hand puppet with a clown face! Wouldn’t that be more entertaining than Steve? Yes it would! Steve will be busy with his severe dance package anyway….

  • 134 Ron Knee // Mar 6, 2016 at 6:50 PM

    jimmy

    Well said.

  • 135 GeordieTwo // Mar 6, 2016 at 6:51 PM

    How do you lot expect an answer from Ashley? He’s still hiding under his bed watching old Spurs matches. He’s got his favourite crisps, some lovely biscuits and cheese and his Horlicks. He won’t be out for at least a week….

  • 136 Laurent Robert 32 // Mar 6, 2016 at 6:52 PM

    Mag52, fair enough. It’s doesn’t have to be Barca as such, just someone who has a genuinely positive attacking philosophy, and some success behind them already in a top standard. Basically, someone suited to managing one of the 20th richest clubs in the world positive manner. Then see where that takes us.

    I can’t say that any of the British managers that I listed before hit that description. They don’t, so I wouldn’t have employed them.

    But the owner is an idiot many ways, so this common sense is uncommon to him. He carries the can because at any point he can put a top Chairman/Director and manager in charge – at any point.

  • 137 toonking // Mar 6, 2016 at 6:53 PM

    ron
    Not being offensive at all
    I just like to make a small change in sound to peoples names if they are the negative figure.

    lambsarse-lambias
    cashley-ashley
    charver-carver
    maclown-maclarean
    I’m not being offensive to anyone who might be a jew.

  • 138 GeordieTwo // Mar 6, 2016 at 6:54 PM

    But seriously lads are you actually expecting some kind of sensible movement from the club? This is the bunch that kept Carver in charge right until the last match last season. Carver, who lost 8 in a row and was a complete clot. Now we’ve got an ex-England manager in charge! Think how much better that is than Carver. This man has won 6 of 28! He clearly knows what he’s doing according to Charnley. So just calm down you lot. There’s plenty of time to turn it around yet……

  • 139 Jib // Mar 6, 2016 at 6:59 PM

    Ron Knee
    I’ve thought that for a while
    I’m surprised no one has pulled him up before
    Anti -semitic

  • 140 Ron Knee // Mar 6, 2016 at 7:03 PM

    toonking

    As jeff has pointed out, it’s anti-semitic. You said you make up nicknames for “negative figures” so you’re using the word “Jew” as a term of abuse.

  • 141 Tsunki // Mar 6, 2016 at 7:04 PM

    Toonking that being said I would steer clear of using that one in future mate 😐

  • 142 Jail for Ashley // Mar 6, 2016 at 7:04 PM

    Jib,
    You said there were many things wrong at the club when defending Mclaren, can you elaborate please.

  • 143 toonking // Mar 6, 2016 at 7:05 PM

    G2

    He gets the string using the shoe laces from all the shoes unsold in sports direct.

  • 144 Jib // Mar 6, 2016 at 7:06 PM

    Jail
    Not ducking
    Can you expand your Q please

  • 145 sparky55 // Mar 6, 2016 at 7:07 PM

    Jail

    I take it you fancy a good old virtual scrap tonight!

  • 146 Tsunki // Mar 6, 2016 at 7:10 PM

    I just want Ashleys party to move along a bit. We’ve had the Juggler, the two Clowns, now we’re waiting for the Magician.

  • 147 posada // Mar 6, 2016 at 7:11 PM

    Interesting post about Phil Neville talking about Moyes. Training runs that take you to the limit etc.
    Do our lot train to that level. No they don’t they get away with murder.
    If Moyes came in and did that 40% of our lot would fail the standard. The dummies would fly they would be on the sick and god knows what.
    But from the 50-60 % who could handle it you would have a team.

  • 148 Tsunki // Mar 6, 2016 at 7:12 PM

    Looking at Pardew now, could it be possible he’s been Ashleyed?

    😉

  • 149 toonking // Mar 6, 2016 at 7:12 PM

    tsunki

    I’ll have to ask when is a par-due?

  • 150 posada // Mar 6, 2016 at 7:14 PM

    When Roeder took over from Souness we were in a mess. Luckily we still had Shearer in the dressing room. Lee Clarke and Tommy Craig were still there a coaches.
    We started only selecting people who were ” at it “. Even if they were kids. Huntingdon, Edgar and Chopra.
    We finnished 7th.

  • 151 Belfast // Mar 6, 2016 at 7:14 PM

    At least you don’t call him “Pards”

  • 152 Belfast // Mar 6, 2016 at 7:15 PM

    He looked very unhappy earlier.

  • 153 Belfast // Mar 6, 2016 at 7:17 PM

    Crying his eyes out about that penalty like. It was definitely a penalty imo

  • 154 sing in the corner // Mar 6, 2016 at 7:19 PM

    Belfast
    I was convinced he was going to deck the interviewer!

  • 155 Belfast // Mar 6, 2016 at 7:20 PM

    Aye he was fuming but it was the defenders fault.

  • 156 lochinvar // Mar 6, 2016 at 7:21 PM

    And any news from ” the meeting” ?
    No I didn’t think so

    The silence is deafening

  • 157 toonking // Mar 6, 2016 at 7:21 PM

    Tsunki

    That 8 year contract was a long puppet string

    long string of consistant games without defeat.
    Long string of consistant defeat.
    long string of poor transfer windows
    long string of rubbish and lies.

  • 158 sparky55 // Mar 6, 2016 at 7:23 PM

    my only ray of sunshine from a season where we go down and sunderland stay up at our expense is Pardew being found out for the t0sser we all but a few knew he was.

    Pardew for England???? the most amusing high spot of the season… a w@nk@ of the highest order and so satisfying to see him do exactly what we said he would do and exactly what he’s done everyone else he’s been.

    In fact if he hadn’t been our manager before I’d have recommended he come in for the 10 match race our skins stint because he always gets his new teams off to a flyer…and once he kept us up sack the useless tw@t cos the writing was always gonna be on the wall.

  • 159 Jib // Mar 6, 2016 at 7:24 PM

    This is the lovely Louise’s take on our situation.

    http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/mar/06/david-moyes-rafa-benitez-wait-newcastle-crisis-talks-steve-mcclaren-future

  • 160 GeordieTwo // Mar 6, 2016 at 7:25 PM

    Must win games remaining: Sunderland (h), Norwich (a), Swansea (h), Palace (h), and Villa (a). That’s 15 points. We can still escape this.

  • 161 Belfast // Mar 6, 2016 at 7:26 PM

    It’s still going on but Steve is refusing to leave the room.

    I don’t think they’ll sack him, probably soldier on for another few games and then try to desperately replace him with no takers.

  • 162 sparky55 // Mar 6, 2016 at 7:27 PM

    Jesus G2…you been on the p!ss all day?????

  • 163 Moonraker15 // Mar 6, 2016 at 7:28 PM

    After watching that shambles against Bournemouth yesterday, there is no way McClaren will get us out of this mess.
    How could he possibly justify playing Rivierre with Perez up front? It had to be Mitro and Doumbia. When I saw the team I knew we wouldn’t get anything from the game. When he brought on Anita I was further depressed; why not Savait?
    It’s simple; to have any chance, and we have good fixtures, we have to change the manager. No one could be worse and the boost might just inspire the players who have clearly given up on McClaren !

  • 164 Ron Knee // Mar 6, 2016 at 7:32 PM

    Isn’t there that scene in Richard III where the king accuses Hastings of treachery? All the others start edging away from the unfortunate. Could it be the same in our boardroom?

  • 165 Dragon64 // Mar 6, 2016 at 7:34 PM

    rumour’s starting on twitter thats he’s been sacked anyone no out???????

  • 166 Dragon64 // Mar 6, 2016 at 7:35 PM

    lets hope its true for god sake just go

  • 167 lochinvar // Mar 6, 2016 at 7:36 PM

    A distraction while we are waiting for the news that Charnley and McLaren have been removed from duties
    The company behind FIFA 16 is “working to remove” Adam Johnson from the game “as soon as possible”.
    The former Sunderland winger was convicted this week of sexual activity with a 15-year-old girl.
    But gamers firing up their copies of FIFA 16 can, for the moment, still select the 28-year-old midfielder.
    He’s been taken out of the squads for both England and Sunderland, but his character is still playable on other areas of the game.
    Shocking

  • 168 GeordieTwo // Mar 6, 2016 at 7:39 PM

    No I’m completely sober sparky mate! We can escape this! It’s my next cunning plan. Just think of the look on Pardew’s face when we lash them 5-1! And we crush Swansea like grapes between our toes! All squishy and down they go 3-0! And those mackems feel our power! Doumbia gets a hat trick and Perez a brace! It’s all very exciting in my fantasy world!!!

  • 169 Jib // Mar 6, 2016 at 7:41 PM

    Ron Knee
    To be fair he had plotted wth Rivers Vaughan and Grey – Stanley and Catesby as well I think

  • 170 toonking // Mar 6, 2016 at 7:41 PM

    mag 52 post 115
    LR32 post 136

    100%

    these two posts combined are what I’ve been trying to point out for months. we’ve all got want to see quality football like we had back in the KK era. Realistically that is like a dream because under current ownership we’re always appointing the same rubbish and after 7 years of ownership he still hasn’t changed.

  • 171 sparky55 // Mar 6, 2016 at 7:41 PM

    You and my missus would get on great..she’s from planet Zarg as well!

  • 172 firebug666 // Mar 6, 2016 at 7:42 PM

    Ron Knee @164

    Edging away???

    I think it might be a bit more than that.

    After the game, (sorry debacle) yesterday.

    Bishop sat down in front of the computer looking to write an appeasing statement but is suffering writers block.

    Carr said he needed to do some scouting and fled from the building heading for anywhere.

    Moncur was last seen shivering and sucking his thumb in a meat pie kiosk.

    And Penfold has locked himself in a broom cupboard with his eyes tight shut, and his fingers in his ears.

    Ashley hasn’t a clue on how to proceed, so next game will be same old same old.

  • 173 toon22 // Mar 6, 2016 at 7:45 PM

    HAs anyone seen the story about the nonce signing kids shirts while the club had been told he was going to be charged with noncing?
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3474855/Pictured-Adam-Johnson-signs-autographs-young-fans-just-days-child-sex-trial.html

    Imho that photo of him proves the club has brought the game into disrepute,if he was employed by anyone else and the owner/manager had been told of the noncing by the police and the person himself admitted it was possible he was guilty how could they ever allow that person to gain accest to other children?
    Yes its inocent untill proven guilty but anyone else would have been susspeneded with fullk pay untill the verdict had been reached due to the sensitive nature of the aligations and his accsess to other children.

  • 174 Ron Knee // Mar 6, 2016 at 7:47 PM

    jeff

    I can see the interrogation room lamp swinging from face to face.

    firebug

    There’s always Paul Simpson!

  • 175 Jail for Ashley // Mar 6, 2016 at 7:49 PM

    Jib,
    What do you think is wrong with the way the club is being run?

  • 176 GeordieTwo // Mar 6, 2016 at 7:49 PM

    I like our chances against Leicester. They’ve overplayed their hand. Now their due a right thumping. Our brand of working our way into the corners and then passing back all the way to goal will completely bamboozle them. They’ll be expecting “normal” football. Well, they’ll not get that from us. I’ll guarantee it!

  • 177 magscar // Mar 6, 2016 at 7:51 PM

    G2@160

    I was thinking much the same up to yesterday with Bournemouth also down as a winnable game. After that display from manager and players ( in general not all) I have had my faith shaken completely that we can win games ( cup finals? we can’t even win a cup game!)

    Jib has posted about 3 team league and McClaren said as much after match. He isn’t lying and may believe he actually is best man to get us out ( Carver did and did ).

    However when players for whatever reason aren’t performing for you, the crowd have finally run out of patience the difficulties are mounting whilst you have nodeclared stategy other than to dust ourselves and go again fans are hardly going to be inspired.

    He has been in this situation with England and other clubs and has come up short. Nothing I am now witnessing gives me any confidence he has a solution this time.

    Whether McClaren goes or stays, whether we stay up or not at end of season Ashley has to go ( as most want but unlikely) or finally run club on a more professional football basis and not as an extension of his main business.

    No matter who is in dugout come Derby the crowd will be up for it and leave McClaren (if t s he) alone BUT if Mackems take lead then it is going to get more toxic than ever which will not be conducive to a recovery from us. Not getting at crowd at all just painting a likely picture. A new manager in ? then more sympathy will be shown. Another reason for change? – could be.

  • 178 toonking // Mar 6, 2016 at 7:52 PM

    sparky

    get realistic. Even those who backed pardew knew he was a crap manager. The just deemed him the best of puppets.

    What more does a fan need before he’ll realize we’re stuck with crap. Is the re appointment of JFK not enough to prove we’re stuck with crap managers?

    There is great odds on rafa being the next manager, why do a bet if you still believe we’ll see a quality arrival when the next puppet is sacked.

  • 179 jimmysmith // Mar 6, 2016 at 7:53 PM

    “Ashley, though, may find Benítez too challenging for his liking and is said to have a preference for the similarly unemployed Moyes, the former Everton, Manchester United and Real Sociedad manager. It is understood that he would be extremely interested in any vacancy” Guardian.

    That last sentence is dose of salts.

  • 180 GeordieTwo // Mar 6, 2016 at 7:54 PM

    Look at Leicester after all. Prancing around the pitch with their smarmy scoring goals for fun malarkey! It’s absolute piffle I say. Let them face our feared attack of Riviere and errrm whoever else we can talk into going out there. Then let’s see the fear on their faces! Harrumph!

  • 181 Jail for Ashley // Mar 6, 2016 at 7:55 PM

    When I was gauging peoples opinions yesterday, everyone blamed the players, Ashley, Carr and Mclaren, but everyone had a different opinion, so who is to blame. They think by making a situation where nobody can point the finger it’s all ok, second bottom -25 shows it isn’t ok

  • 182 firebug666 // Mar 6, 2016 at 7:56 PM

    Ron Knee

    Homer Simpson would be a better choice.

  • 183 GeordieTwo // Mar 6, 2016 at 7:56 PM

    Good post @177 magscar mate. A new manager would get some breathing time. The players could settle down and focus instead of being distracted by the presence of McLaren. I’ve wanted him out for ages. This is the last real chance to give him the boot.

  • 184 sparky55 // Mar 6, 2016 at 7:56 PM

    evening toonking

    i’m sorry but you’ve lost me…which of my comments are you referring to

  • 185 Jail for Ashley // Mar 6, 2016 at 7:58 PM

    When I took my seat yesterday at 14.59 and saw that Riverie was playing I knew the game was lost, what did he do against Stoke to justify starting that game, will they have to pay more by starting Doumbia???

  • 186 Bri // Mar 6, 2016 at 8:00 PM

    Good luck to the new manager,if and when it happens,he’s gonna need it because we’re going down without a fight by the look of things.

  • 187 GeordieTwo // Mar 6, 2016 at 8:01 PM

    If nobody else will do it I’ll take the lead once more!
    Pardew for England!
    Boom, boom, boom boom boom!
    Pardew for England!
    Boom, boom, boom boom boom!
    Boom boom boom boom!
    England!!!!

  • 188 GeordieTwo // Mar 6, 2016 at 8:02 PM

    I’m just basking in the glory of having one of our former managers touted for the England job. Step down Roy!!!!

  • 189 Jib // Mar 6, 2016 at 8:04 PM

    Toon 22
    SAFC could be considered to have played an illeligible player end of last season and also this.
    His goals effectively put Hull down.
    A points deduction may not be as far fetched as some folk think.
    Jail
    Not too much
    We could do with Ashley being more of an absentee landlord and more people appointed who “get” the club.
    Everybody from the generation who should be in and around the club ain’t there.
    You look at other big clubs and they connect with their past and community.
    Speedo’s dead Shearer’s persona non grata
    Rob Lee , Sir Les down south Lee Clark in Scotland there’s only Pedro with the kids.

  • 190 JackButler // Mar 6, 2016 at 8:05 PM

    No matter what happens come the summer we need a MASSIVE clear out. We have so many poor players, players who don’t care about the club or fans, players who have no right to wear that shirt, a shirt we would all cross he’ll to be able to wear just once at SJP.

    I am sick and tired of seeing the likes of Colo, Sissoko etc etc etc prancing around, believing they are class players when they are far from it.

    And things have become so bad that now I feel that maybe relegation would not be the worst thing in the world as all the primadonas will want out thinking they are better than they truly are and we can be left to rebuild

  • 191 sparky55 // Mar 6, 2016 at 8:07 PM

    good luck with that one JIB…lets hope hull’s legal team and the FA read this blog and we also get the three points back from when the scum beat us last year!

  • 192 GeordieTwo // Mar 6, 2016 at 8:09 PM

    A rebuild will take years. Under the right owner. Under Ashley it’s pointless. He would just hire another imbecile to run things into the ground again. His last chance at the club is over now. If we survive sell up Ashley. If we go down, sell up for less Ashley. You must know it yourself by now. You are the Football Fool Mike. Put your Fool’s clothing on and go entertain you friends.

  • 193 Jib // Mar 6, 2016 at 8:09 PM

    ineligible even

  • 194 toonking // Mar 6, 2016 at 8:14 PM

    sparky

    it’s post 158
    “my only ray of sunshine from a season where we go down and sunderland stay up at our expense is Pardew being found out for the t0sser we all but a few knew he was.”

    of course he’s a tosser but so was JFK, wise, lambsarse but them 3 hardly get brought up at all.

    “Pardew for England???? the most amusing high spot of the season… a w@nk@ of the highest order and so satisfying to see him do exactly what we said he would do and exactly what he’s done everyone else he’s been.”

    stories about england is just paper junk, roy is going to leave. England have wanted to appoint england managers ever since the loss of cappello. Pardew was linked with england that season he had a good run so papers are just continuing where they left off.

    The only reason he even came into our heads so badly was because cashley decided to appoint him, give him an 8 year contract and refused to sack him even when the headbutt was done.

    “In fact if he hadn’t been our manager before I’d have recommended he come in for the 10 match race our skins stint because he always gets his new teams off to a flyer…and once he kept us up sack the useless tw@t cos the writing was always gonna be on the wall.”

    The reason we’re in the current mess is because cashley continues to make stupid appointments having gone with maclown.

    maclown could be gone by the summer are you going to follow him as heavily?

    If we get another puppet ill you still seem the managers a the problem?

  • 195 toon22 // Mar 6, 2016 at 8:16 PM

    Imho the games the nonce played in this season and they won should be deducted from their points tally.
    If the FA dont act they are condoning the actions of a club who even after the police told them he was being carged with being a nonce still played him and in effect made themselves complicit in his crimes,didnt the girl involved say she met him while he was signing shirts?
    Have yoy look at the photo of the city game with him signing shirts of kids ?

  • 196 Big Pappa Cissé // Mar 6, 2016 at 8:16 PM

    Question for the blog I find hard to answer these days.

    Would you take relegation this season if it meant 100% Ashley would sell NUFC ? .

  • 197 SPRINGY // Mar 6, 2016 at 8:19 PM

    G2
    win them… the same way we should of won against bournemouth and villa at home?…..they are winnable games… but not under macca….he should of been gone after the villa game.

  • 198 Big Pappa Cissé // Mar 6, 2016 at 8:20 PM

    I am sure someone at SAFC has sold their soul to the devil in the last few years .

    How they escaped relegation last year I will never know .

    They are guaranteed 6 points against us every year .

    They look to survive again this year whilst fielding a Paedophile they KNEW kissed an underage girl at the very least .

    I would love it if we were relegated on place behind the Mackems and a few days after the season was over they were handed a retrospective points ban meaning they went down instead 🙂 .

  • 199 GeordieTwo // Mar 6, 2016 at 8:21 PM

    I’m just sitting thinking about what it would take to rebuild the club now. The shambles is shocking. From what I’ve heard the youth team and reserves are a shambles as well. We still can’t keep players fit and we still have no decent transfer policy in place. We’ve wasted much of the last 80M spent on players as well. The main assets remaining are the ground and the supporters. There are at least 5 or 6 players who could be sold off and the money used for more incoming but we must have proper management in place first. That means Charnley, Carr and McLaren sacked along with the board. Get them all out. None of this will happen with Ashley in as owner so it all comes down to him selling up.

  • 200 JackButler // Mar 6, 2016 at 8:22 PM

    Big papa

    It’s almost impossible to answer as all would depend on who bought the club as knowing our luck we’d end up with and even worse owner.

    This season he has spent the money but he’s given that money to the wrong people and in doing so we have gone backwards, whereas if we had a decent chairman, scout and manager that £100 million would have seen us improve to a massive extent and that shows that McClaren is not the real problem at the club, he is simply the result of the problem

  • 201 GeordieTwo // Mar 6, 2016 at 8:22 PM

    Absolutely Big Pappa mate. I would take relegation in a split second to get rid of Ashley.

  • 202 toon22 // Mar 6, 2016 at 8:23 PM

    The simple fact is they didnt susspend him untill the verdict due to the close nature to children means they are complicit in his actions.
    Without Sunderland he would have found it harder to nonce.

  • 203 Munster Mag // Mar 6, 2016 at 8:24 PM

    “PARJEW”…..WTF ????

  • 204 Belfast // Mar 6, 2016 at 8:25 PM

    So when a young kid asks Adam Johnson to sign his programme or shirt you wanted Adam Johnson to say sorry I can’t I’m a paedophile? Haha

  • 205 GeordieTwo // Mar 6, 2016 at 8:26 PM

    You’re spot on springy @197. I would have sacked him after 10-12 matches. The 3-0 loss to the mackems still burns.

  • 206 magscar // Mar 6, 2016 at 8:27 PM

    G2@183

    No official word that there is a meeting but surely there must be.

    As you say this is the last chance to make a change but even if the will is there can a viable replacement be convinced it is the right move and time?

    Your earlier reading of the winnable games is the only card to play in a 4 team 10 (9 for some) game league. A decent confident manager looking at possibilities presented by players, ground, crowd and the fixtures might just be convinced it is a worthwhile gamble. Unfortunately that is not going to be the only hurdle given the image of the Club in the game. The manager we need is probably going to be of the experienced variety and those problems are as ever going to be the formidable hurdle.

    There is the chance Ashley could look to say Redknapp (with McClaren or not) to come in and save us – desperate yes!

    If there were any guarantees I would
    settle for that with Summer being the better time for the radical surgery needed to save the Club and with no shying away from it even after the relief of surviving.

  • 207 BandB // Mar 6, 2016 at 8:28 PM

    In a couple of days a voice or two will pipe up to say “we tried to get rid of McClaren and we failed. Let’s get behind the guy now!”

    I will agree with them.

    If McClaren isn’t to blame and not negotiable, then I guess we’ll just have to switch the chants and the banners to Ashley and Sports Direct and see how our tough cookie likes that.

    Can’t get satisfaction? Take it to the top.

  • 208 toonking // Mar 6, 2016 at 8:33 PM

    BPC

    I’d take relegation myself.

    Under this current regime I don’t expect decent player or managerial appoints. Most seasons we’ll be battling for survival and getting early cup exits.

    The only miss will be top teams and players coming up against you but a more entertaining and attacking championship game can make up for that and we’ll get the chance to restore the lost spirit and get rid or the mercinies.




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