Calls Mount For McClaren’s Dismissal But Will It Happen?


Most fans are waiting with bated breath for an announcement from the club that Steve McClaren has been fired, but it’s 3:00 pm Newcastle time now and there’s still no word from the club.

We suppose there is still a chance that Lee Charnley and Steve McClaren can convince the owner that Steve can still save Newcastle – but he cannot – and if he is kept in charge it simply means we will be relegated in May.

This is little doubt about that because Steve has proved all season that he’s just not up to the job and Lee Charnley will still be trying to save McClaren – as he’s done all season – because he appointed him in the first place.

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Sir John Hall – Newcastle need change

Former Newcastle United owner Sir John Hall thinks the time should be called on Steve’s tenure at Newcastle.

This is what he has told BBC Radio 5 Live’s Sportsweek:

“I’m like every fan, I’m utterly depressed that we’re in a relegation battle again. We shouldn’t be there.”  “If I was Mike Ashley I’d be tearing my hair out. He’s put money in to buy players and they’re not gelling.”

“You’ve got to ask yourself what’s going on, and it all comes down to management.”  “Steve’s not getting the players to play for him and it’s maybe time that he goes. You need someone to harness the team.”

“Something’s not right there and you need change, it’s the only thing.” “Does Mike Ashley have the confidence to keep the manager there until the end of the season?” 

“You’ve got to motivate the players, but it’s not happening out there – and that’s got to come down to management.” “If they’re not gelling together then I would change. If I was the owner again I would have somebody in mind to bring them in.”

“That’s the gamble you take, but at this moment in time we are prime candidates for relegation.” “We should not be in this position and you have got to ask yourselves why we are?”

“Ashley’s got to step back, it’s his responsibility, he has put the cash in, and it hasn’t happened. So he’s got to put a rescue plan in.” “I would be inclined to say to the manager ‘it’s time to go’ and bring somebody else in.”

Newcastle have 10 games left to save their season, and if we can get an experienced manager in, who has good man-management skills and can motivate the players, there’s still a chance we can survive in the Premier League – but since we have lost five of the last six games it’s looking very dodgy at the moment.

But the fans would unite behind a new manager and the players would essentially be given a second chance – and there would be hope.

If McClaren stays in charge there is no hope.

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208 comments so far

  • JackButler

    Mar 6, 2016 at 3:04 PM

    Comment #1

    Replace the manager or get relegated, it’s that simple, but in truth the manager is not the real problem at the club, he is simply the result of the real problem

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  • ToonBano

    Mar 6, 2016 at 3:04 PM

    Comment #2

    I feel very strongly that he needs to go. He’s not a manager, he’s a conman. More detail see here:

    http://www.toonbano.com/2016/03/steve-mcclaren-is-no-manager-hes.html#.VtxGfNTfWrU

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  • Rotonda heights

    Mar 6, 2016 at 3:05 PM

    Comment #3

    ed

    look who runs the club. decisiveness isn’t their strong suit.

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  • lesh

    Mar 6, 2016 at 3:08 PM

    Comment #4

    John Hall reckons our plight’s down to management, McClaren?

    Sir John, you’ve got it wrong – it’s not just McClaren, it’s down to management at all levels!

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  • lesh

    Mar 6, 2016 at 3:11 PM

    Comment #5

    And, the Observer’s saying that Berahino’ll be off to Spurs.

    No surprise there and Charnley knew that his bids for him would be wasted – all done to con the fans yet again.

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  • ilovetoon8788

    Mar 6, 2016 at 3:12 PM

    Comment #6

    So mclaren is not getting the sack. We are royally screwed now. Doomed. We won’t be back for a long long time. We deserve it though. Players like sissoko has been an absolute disgrace to the shirt.

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  • Lindisfarne

    Mar 6, 2016 at 3:16 PM

    Comment #7

    The players performances have not picked up very far from last season, so is there a problem more associated to the club rather than the Head Coach?

    That being said, it is still up to the man who sends the players on to the field needs to make sure they are fully motivated to perform at the best of their abilities. At the moment that is apparently not happening and SMC is failing, without the strength to enforce an adequate solution.

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  • NoahJ

    Mar 6, 2016 at 3:16 PM

    Comment #8

    if ashley doesn’t have the balls to sack mclaren, then he deserves everything he gets (guaranteed relegation and loss of outrageous money, industry value, reputation, and subsequent ability to sell the club).

    It’s just tragic that we all have to suffer for it too

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  • JackButler

    Mar 6, 2016 at 3:17 PM

    Comment #9

    If he does stay I can’t see us winning another game all season and given our next run of games it is simply criminal that he be allowed to continue.

    Put simply, we deserve to go down for the way we are and have been run over the years.

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  • geordiemark

    Mar 6, 2016 at 3:20 PM

    Comment #10

    john hall shouldn’t talk hes the one who sold us out at the start selling the club to Ashley, shepard as well but he was in hospital at the time but still no excuses yous took the money and ran and with massive debts to so yous 2 take the blame in selling us down the river with Ashely

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  • geordiemark

    Mar 6, 2016 at 3:23 PM

    Comment #11

    mr Ashley you may own Newcastle united but the fans own the club, we will always be here and we will always support our team no matter what, if we go to the championship then that’s the way it is but doesn’t matter because we are still the heartbeat of this club all you are is the man who just sits there and takes every penny you can just like john hall and freddy shepard done

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  • JackButler

    Mar 6, 2016 at 3:23 PM

    Comment #12

    Pardews inability to turn round a losing run continues as they go down to 10 men Liverpool

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  • Ron Knee

    Mar 6, 2016 at 3:25 PM

    Comment #13

    Does anybody know when the meeting is/was?

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  • Rotonda heights

    Mar 6, 2016 at 3:26 PM

    Comment #14

    hehe

    At least ”I’m winner” and ”my teams always play on the front foot” AP is giving SM a run for his money!!! Worst run in CP’s history. Sound familiar. NUFC can really pick managers!!

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  • Tsunki

    Mar 6, 2016 at 3:29 PM

    Comment #15

    Ashley threw a wad of cash at the problem without taking responsibility for it’s effectiveness. it’s basically a rich man whose brand project is threatened with revenue loss chucking a quick fix at a long term fundamental problem. That stupid video about him getting us to win something was immediately devolved on his board minions who aren’t up to the task. The club is decaying from the academy upwards and he has,allowed all this to happen. Anyone think this will ever change?

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  • JackButler

    Mar 6, 2016 at 3:29 PM

    Comment #16

    Ron

    Reported for either two or three this afternoon.

    Just looked at our fixtures and we could easily get out of this mess if we brought in the right man as we play all the sides around us, but I can’t see us picking up more than four points if SM stays

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  • Belfast

    Mar 6, 2016 at 3:31 PM

    Comment #17

    The scowl on Pardews face lol

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  • Tsunki

    Mar 6, 2016 at 3:32 PM

    Comment #18

    Pardew looking less mediocre every match.

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  • WWSBRD

    Mar 6, 2016 at 3:33 PM

    Comment #19

    I don’t see us surviving tbh I think yesterday we needed to win and we fell well short

    Truly don’t understand considering the squad we have just how poor we have been

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  • Rotonda heights

    Mar 6, 2016 at 3:33 PM

    Comment #20

    geordiemark

    if Ash sits there taking every penny and fans won’t do a thing about it, it’s not much of a club left is it.

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  • Belfast

    Mar 6, 2016 at 3:34 PM

    Comment #21

    Aye 12 without a win in the league now.

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  • JackButler

    Mar 6, 2016 at 3:37 PM

    Comment #22

    WW

    Yesterday showed just how poor we are technically and mentally, Shelvey, Elliot and Jannmatt stood up while the rest hid away and caved

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  • toon kk

    Mar 6, 2016 at 3:37 PM

    Comment #23

    Macca’s on the board, he’s not going to sack himself. MA doesn’t know enough about football to understand

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  • terencelim

    Mar 6, 2016 at 3:37 PM

    Comment #24

    Don’t even try to compare Ashley to John Hall or FS. Back in those days at least the fans had some great time and never had to worry about all the decisions made by the owner.

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  • Belfast

    Mar 6, 2016 at 3:38 PM

    Comment #25

    I don’t see us surviving either. That was a must win yesterday. Although we did get lucky with Southamptons late equaliser.

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  • Lindisfarne

    Mar 6, 2016 at 3:38 PM

    Comment #26

    If the decision of the Board is that sacking SMC will not benefit the relegation battle can only be based on two reasons. The problem is with the players not taking personal responsibility, having an injury ravaged squad with a lack of competition and a turn around is apparently imminently possible. Or there is a lack of alternative candidates, with the effect of last seasons ruling out passing the chalice on to an Assistant. The circumstances are actually quite different, sacking someone or removing them from their direct responsibilities shows that hard decisions can be made to benefit the club and that no one is safe.

    Those International players that may already know that they have lost their places for Euro2016 have been let down by the club, lied to in regard to over optimistic targets and have very little interest in being told that they are not good enough to play ‘consistent’ football. They and we can see that the quality of leadership is inadequate, unable to evolve and improve.

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  • Tsunki

    Mar 6, 2016 at 3:38 PM

    Comment #27

    Hmmm. Maybe if we get a new manager Pardew may live up to his lifeline-giver reputation and swap cp’s place with us? it’s a thought. 🙂

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  • Rotonda heights

    Mar 6, 2016 at 3:38 PM

    Comment #28

    Ed, Mag 52, and Manx, would you finally admit we are seeing the real AP now. His infamous lack of any plan B has seen him found out yet again, as always.

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  • bladeuser

    Mar 6, 2016 at 3:39 PM

    Comment #29

    Read it and weep fixture for next season
    BURTON ALBION V NEWCASTLE UNITED
    Nufc should be favourites though as some of the BURTON players are working the night shift
    ASH OUT SMAC OUT COLO OUT CARR OUT PENFOLD OUT SHEEP ? OUT

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  • Rotonda heights

    Mar 6, 2016 at 3:41 PM

    Comment #30

    i just think mclaren’s presence around the place is bringing everyone down. Just removing him would be a start, whether a new manager comes in or not, as clearly no one has any time or respect for him.

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  • wynsleap

    Mar 6, 2016 at 3:42 PM

    Comment #31

    If Ashley doesn’t take the opportunity to sack McTavish today it either means:
    1. He’s not bothered about the improved money next year. as he couldn’t really care less about the club or the fans.
    2. He’s convinced (stupidly) that we’ll come back straight up (no Hughton this time).
    3. He’ll think he won’t have to fork out for top class players (or managers) in that league so he’ll save money.
    Either way it’s us the fans that will suffer. I think that if we do go down (and it’s looking almost a knocking bet) we could be in the wilderness for a few years. The likes of Leicester, West Brom, Palace, Stoke, Bournemouth etc (and God forbid the Mackems), all of whom in the past have not been in the same sphere as us may be super rich and established by the time we claw ourselves back into the elite.

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  • JackButler

    Mar 6, 2016 at 3:45 PM

    Comment #32

    With the amount of money he stands to lose he has to act as there are zero signs that SM can turn this mess around, Ashley cares about one thing and that money and carrying on jeopardises hundreds and hundreds of millions in TV revenue and advertising.

    The reason he splashed so much cash this season was to remain in this league and I can’t see him allowing us to go down rather than replace the manager

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  • Rotonda heights

    Mar 6, 2016 at 3:50 PM

    Comment #33

    it’s so sad that our local talent playing yesterday, ie saylor, colback and dummet are all championship / league 1 players at best.

    Saviet and Doumbia must be thinking what the hell have they got in to. Don’t know why we didn’t ship cisse and tiote out as both seem to be hardly ever available.

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  • WWSBRD

    Mar 6, 2016 at 3:50 PM

    Comment #34

    JB
    Yeah that’ll happen with NUFC too many disappearing players, they fit the transfer strategy perfectly though

    On the Ashley vs Hall/Shepard debate at least with Hall/Shepard they wanted the club to succeed they made mistakes but it was always with the idea of success in mind and to get the best they could on the pitch…anyone want to argue Ashley does that?

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  • Tsunki

    Mar 6, 2016 at 3:51 PM

    Comment #35

    Our previous much maligned owners who apparently almost ruined this club did not leave the club to Ashley in this sorry state. Ashley doesn’t have any of the vital spark of at least caring about this club but I’m sure the loss of millions in worldwide TV advertising never mind the revenue for being on it should be enough impetus for him to act, J less he fancies making a series of Mission Statement videos every season end

    “I will not sell this club until we have beaten Leigh RMI in the Evo-Stik Challenge Cup by the next decade”

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  • Ron Knee

    Mar 6, 2016 at 3:51 PM

    Comment #36

    JB

    Thanks!

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  • AncientC

    Mar 6, 2016 at 3:53 PM

    Comment #37

    Perhaps Ashley should accept Hall’s advice, after all, Hall was good enough not to state the obvious, when Ashley claimed he had no idea that football clubs bought players with installments/staggered payments. A fact that is common knowledge.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Mar 6, 2016 at 3:54 PM

    Comment #38

    JB

    But that being the case you think Ash would employ someone who does know football and would get us a sampauli or Nuno, Garcia, Laudrup etc who the fans could relate to and enjoy watching their team again.

    Moyes is hardly going to get fans excited after his 2 recent dismal failures and s—e football.
    He’ll just go in the same categry as dalglish, souness, SA, AP, JC and now worst of all SM.

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  • lesh

    Mar 6, 2016 at 3:57 PM

    Comment #39

    Lindisfarne

    If Ashley really is keen to do something about our plight he’ll discuss the options with Charnley – who’ll not have bothered his backside to sound out potential successors to McClaren.

    Ashley can either:

    Overrule any Charnley desire to stay with McClaren or

    Be persuaded by Charnley to stick with what we’ve got.

    If Charnley persuades Ashley to stick with McCl and we are relegated, then both Charnley and McClaren’ll be given other responsibilities.

    But if we survive, then that’ll be down to good fortune rather than good management as it was last season. That being so, both Charnley and McClaren’s competence must be questioned and they deserves dismissal.

    And it is to be hoped that other aspects of the Club’s structure, philosophy, youth development and scouting be reviewed.

    If Ashley is concerned about the Club and wants to win things, he really must put the Club under major surgery and act to make it an ambitious and professionally run business.

    If he doesn’t act at this stage of the season, his personal reputation and credibility in the wider business and financial world will be called into question by the stock market and that’ll impact further on SD.

    Ashley’s Inna difficult situation and if he doesn’t intervene and make changes now, he’ll be seen as presiding over relegation, again, and stand accused of caring nothing for our club, Newcastle United.

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  • Munster Mag

    Mar 6, 2016 at 4:00 PM

    Comment #40

    Rotunda not sure why u rate laudrup higher than moyes. Apart from pretty football. He was run out of town by swansea…

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