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Hope Running Out For Newcastle Fans – It’s A Disgrace

4:21 pm, Tuesday, March 8th, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 177 Comments

Lee Charnley has apparently met again with his Board and the man who cannot seem to make a decision to save his life – has still not made any decision as to whether to replace the man he appointed as Newcastle head coach last summer – Steve McClaren.

And it is now three days since we were humiliated 3-1 by Bournemouth at home and apparently nothing will happen today,  but there may be a meeting with Steve McClaren tomorrow – but there again there may not be a meeting with Steve McClaren tomorrow.

lee charnley

Lee Charnley – incompetent as the Managing Director
He does nothing

What is certain is that Steve McClaren will turn up for training, and things will slowly return to “normal” – the status quo – and he continues to manage the club down to the Championship.

Things are left to drift in the wind as usual with Lee Charnley  as he continues to dither.

The urgency with which Steve McClaren should have been sacked and a new man brought in has not happened – and it will not happen.

And as Lee and his cohorts on the Board continue to do nothing and play for time,  as each day passes his ultimate goal of keeping Steve McClaren as the Newcastle head coach grows ever more real.

And Newcastle fans’ dreams of Newcastle bringing in a new manager who has the wherewithal and experience to possibly save our Premier League status grows ever more remote.

This is almost getting to be the last straw and we are utterly shocked at the nonsense going on with the Newcastle Board over the last three days.

We have lost the club to a bunch of inept and incompetent people running the club for an absent owner, who sees Newcastle only as a worldwide advertising board that brings money into his company.

And yes – Mike Ashley is the person totally responsible for this degradation of a once great club into what is literally a complete shambles right now.

It is pitiful the way this great club is being left to fall apart by those charged with running it.

Shame on them all – they are simply a disgrace.

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177 responses so far ↓

  • 1 toon kk // Mar 8, 2016 at 4:29 PM

    We’ll be in the championship next season what ever happens, Macca should have been sacked ages ago along with Charnley and Carr. It’s too late now.
    We should be preparing for life in the championship.

  • 2 BeeGuy // Mar 8, 2016 at 4:31 PM

    Maybe Penfoild is OK since you cannot drop form the Prem to League 1 in one step.

  • 3 AndySco // Mar 8, 2016 at 4:31 PM

    The number of basic errors made by the board is absurd, I’m all for stability and giving managers the benefit of doubt but not to have a backup is bizzare. You’d think anyone with a brain, however optimistic they may be about surviving relegation, would have at least thought about alternative managers.
    Don’t the board know that all this uncertainty will be having a negative impact on the players.
    Sack him or support him, just make a bleeding decision…

  • 4 Belfast // Mar 8, 2016 at 4:31 PM

    You don’t know what you’re doing!
    You dont’ know what you’re doing!

  • 5 Bambams // Mar 8, 2016 at 4:32 PM

    I still think he will be sacked. The very least the club would have done if he was not to be sacked is make a loud, bold statement backing him and asking for us to get behind the team – again !

    I am sure they are negotiating with another manager, possibly someone young from Aldi or Morrisons who have shown since leaving school they have signs of becoming a ‘yes’ man !

  • 6 Valid point // Mar 8, 2016 at 4:37 PM

    If the so called board is unable to get a decent manager/HC in, do we want them to fire McC and go with Cathro/Simpson…?

    I’m leaning towards yes, but not overly convinced.

  • 7 lochinvar // Mar 8, 2016 at 4:38 PM

    Not much hope down the road either – in fact they’re in a bigger mess – at least off the field…..maybe a precaution to reduce the impact of any FA sanctions such as a 10 point ( make that 15 to be sure ) deduction ?

    Sunderland chief executive Margaret Byrne has resigned following the Adam Johnson child abuse case.

    Johnson, 28, faces a jail sentence after being found guilty of sexual activity with a 15-year-old girl.

    The Premier League club has been criticised for letting the England winger play after his arrest.

    Byrne, chief executive since 2011, said that decision “was a serious mistake”, with the club adding: “We are so very sorry for this.”
    In a statement, Sunderland said Johnson’s victim had been “very badly let down first and foremost” by the player and “his despicable actions”, but also “by the club they support”.
    The club initially suspended Johnson in March 2015 but lifted that ban after just 16 days.
    He was eventually sacked on the eve of his trial last month, when he admitted grooming the girl and one charge of sexual activity.
    In the intervening 10 months, he played 28 times for the Black Cats.
    Byrne, who joined Sunderland in 2007, said in a statement: “Contrary to what has been suggested, I did not understand that Mr Johnson intended to change his plea at trial or at all.
    “I was astounded when he did plead guilty.
    “I accept that Mr Johnson should not have been permitted to play again, irrespective of what he was going to plead.

    “It was a serious error of judgement and I accept full responsibility for this.”

  • 8 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Mar 8, 2016 at 4:43 PM


    at least they are admitting a mistake and the person resigned…

    McLaren would drive over children would still not resign…

  • 9 Barton // Mar 8, 2016 at 4:44 PM

    Penfold has panic attacks about having to make a
    decision about making a decision.

  • 10 midweek weekend // Mar 8, 2016 at 4:45 PM

    i think we shouldnt give up hope just yet, hope of mcclaren going not us surving we are well and truly gone, but we all must remember, newcastle nip things in the bud very quickly, if mcclaren was staying he would of been backed by now, he will be sacked i firmly believe the question is now who will take over from stevie

  • 11 firebug666 // Mar 8, 2016 at 4:47 PM

    It’s more likely she has resigned with a nice little pay off from the club so they don’t face any sanctions from the FA.

    Now she has gone they can claim to be completely ignorant of Johnson’s guilt, laying it all at her door.

    Another great escape for them this season.

  • 12 Essex Geordie Bill // Mar 8, 2016 at 4:48 PM

    One thing that we all appear to agree about is that he does not want to be given 3 final chances to get some wins as apparently has been suggested.

    It gives no time for an alternative coach/manager to changes anything. Be it Benitez, Moyes or even Cathro (can’t do any worse even if he is only 29) or any one else.

  • 13 Jib // Mar 8, 2016 at 4:52 PM

    at least they are admitting a mistake and the person resigned…
    McLaren would drive over children would still not resign…”

    Possibly the most stupid statement of 2016

  • 14 magicmac // Mar 8, 2016 at 4:54 PM

    Well said Toon KK, I totally agree, to be honest those 2 clowns Charnley and old man Carr should actually have been sacked a long time ago, that little toe rag Charnley hasnt a clue what he is doing, and knows nothing about football, and old man Carr has wasted millions of Ashelys money on total shit players who were never suited to the English premier league, he is totally senele, so for those 2 bloody clowns to decide if Steve Mc Claren should be sacked because he cant do the job is joke, who do you think fellow Newcastle fans decided Mc Claren should get the job in the first place, yes that senele old man Graham Carr, approved by that stupid little fat faced waste of space Charnley, the blind leading the blind, so as long as these 2 clowns are running the circus, it doesnt matter who the head coach or manager is at Newcastle, nothing is ever going to change, if you keep making the same mistakes do you honestly expect a different outcome, it doesnt matter how much money ASHELY , spends nothing is ever going to change until he comes to his senses, and puts proper intelligent football people in charge of running our football club, i work as a driving instructor in Northern Ireland, and it left me thinking, its a bit like me trying to teach my pupils to drive, if i could not drive myself, it would be a disaster, and would never work, you need to be qualifed at your job and know what your doing, do you honestly think any of those 2 clowns Charnley and Carr are qualifed and know what thier doing my fellow Newcastle fans? I rest my case. Ho way the lads.

  • 15 Goldmbemba // Mar 8, 2016 at 4:54 PM

    RE: sunderland being docked points for letting johnson play, is this a genuine possibilty??

    This season he scored or assisted in 4 wins and 1 draw for Sunderland. A total of 13 points that he contributed to their total by statistical contribution.

  • 16 Ron Knee // Mar 8, 2016 at 4:58 PM

    It would take some chutzpah from the Board to issue a statement backing McClaren now. “We have every faith in Steve … business as usual … what’s all the fuss about? etc.”

    If he’s replaced, prepare to be underwhelmed.

  • 17 NoahJ // Mar 8, 2016 at 4:59 PM

    I will buy their logic if all this faffing around is actually to ensure the next appointment is a good one.

    However, that is where my ambition ends, given that their last two ‘thought-out’ managerial appointments were carver and mclaren 🙁

  • 18 Jib // Mar 8, 2016 at 4:59 PM

    Unlike most on here I see the delay as a positive , and , a sign that they may be trying to do it right and not getting a fudged compromise a la Carver.

  • 19 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Mar 8, 2016 at 4:59 PM

    Jib< possibly the most hated blogger of 2016.

  • 20 bettyswallocks // Mar 8, 2016 at 4:59 PM

    I’m just hoping that if there is a change of manager, they realise as has already been mentioned today that modern day football is fast evolving and that old school managers that are set in their ways with out dated ideas are not going to cut it in this new era.

    Apart from Eddie Howe who is a modern , progressive manager with current ideas on how to play there is only Rogers with the right credentials amongst the Brits to take us forward.

  • 21 firebug666 // Mar 8, 2016 at 5:01 PM


    Not sure how that would work, I don’t think Sunderland broke any rules with the player, but morally it was wrong to play him.

    He was registered, and even if he said he was going to plead guilty to two of the charges he had not yet been convicted, so they could still play him, even though it was totally wrong to do so.

  • 22 sparky55 // Mar 8, 2016 at 5:03 PM


    No chance mate…no such mechanism in place and no such precedent. This case will of course set a precedent but there is no way they can currently be penalised in such a way they will have points deducted, but very possible if another club in the future does the same (which won’t ever happen course) it’ll now be in all player contracts that any player accused of such a thing they will have to declare and will be sacked on the spot.

    I can assure you they won’t have any points deducted but other sanctions will be put in place with a big fine and a big warning as to future conduct

  • 23 jon.c // Mar 8, 2016 at 5:03 PM

    Whats the betting SMc stays whats the betting

  • 24 Mister Tuff // Mar 8, 2016 at 5:04 PM

    gorgonzola – what about 2015 as well.

  • 25 firebug666 // Mar 8, 2016 at 5:05 PM

    According to a report from the Chronicle, Newcastle United will only sack manager Steve McClaren if a suitable alternative becomes available and at the moment it is being claimed that any such recruitment is not at an advanced enough stage to see the current Magpies boss move on.

    Newcastle are currently 19th in the Premier League with 24 points from 28 matches, and while they are only one point behind 17th-placed Sunderland and have a game in hand, the fear is the Magpies are on a downward spiral that will not be rectified without a change at the top.

    Despite Newcastle’s 3-1 defeat to Bournemouth at the weekend, the Chronicle claims Magpies managing director Lee Charnley considers making a change at this point in the season a last resort. However his hand may be forced with owner Mike Ashley’s men allegedly suggesting McClaren’s position was all but untenable after the latest setback.

    There is no doubt Newcastle will be an attractive option to a whole host of managers, both those currently out of work and those seeking a change. The question is: Just when do Newcastle take the plunge and will their choice save them or be remembered as too little too late?

  • 26 AndySco // Mar 8, 2016 at 5:05 PM

    I agree that it is great to take time to make a good decision, but they should have done that over the last few weeks when it had become apparent that relegation was a serious possibility. That would have allowed them to act quickly over the weekend without all the added hysteria

  • 27 Ian Toon // Mar 8, 2016 at 5:06 PM

    12Ian Toon // Mar 8, 2016 at 7:21 AM

    Meanwhile !!!! Aside from Crayola and a well thought out survey – how’s about doing a survey on what can be learnt from season 2015-16 attendances at SJP. Much was made at the end of last season of the reduction in attendances and the view that it was a form of protest against Ashley. However our very first home game in August saw attendance in excess of 49,000. This was seen as a massive hinderance to those organising the protests against Mike Ashley. In addition it confirmed that there can no longer be any suggestion that the attendance figures include many season ticket holders who’ve stopped attending, as happened at the end of the previous season. From the Southampton game onwards it can safely be taken that season-ticket renewers were not staying away.
    Certainly it’s worth considering, in what has been an abysmal season just why have attendances been so good. Was it Ashley’s televised promise, the signings made, changes in the coaching staff and the appointment of Macca ( or anyone but Carver!). It hasn’t been for winning football matches. Has any of the above been enough to persuade people to return en masse for another season? Crayons at the ready.

    However, just where are the hapless Ashley Out protest group(s) – this is anyone’s guess but it would seem back to Square One – though it might help if The Mag were soon to be The Clarion. Feast and famine either way another rethink is required given the most protest friendly times. Slow footed is one thing but slow witted. ” I’d never join an organisation that would allow a person like me to become a member”.

  • 28 chicousa // Mar 8, 2016 at 5:07 PM

    Only one way for Ashley to avoid losing out on the millions in broadcast revenues next year and the sudden devaluation of assets from owning a BPL team that becomes a Championship side next year – sell the team immediately!!! Ashley Out!!!

  • 29 Tsunki // Mar 8, 2016 at 5:08 PM

    Picture caption –

    “I have a sore bottom”

  • 30 Ian Toon // Mar 8, 2016 at 5:08 PM

    Jib- You could well be right and for the right reasons.

  • 31 Ron Knee // Mar 8, 2016 at 5:09 PM


    If they do stick with McClaren, how can Bishop sell this decision to supporters after all the dithering around?

  • 32 Tsunki // Mar 8, 2016 at 5:10 PM

    it’s far more likely they are painstakingly going over all the reasons why they should do absolutely nothing.

  • 33 Tsunki // Mar 8, 2016 at 5:11 PM

    Ron – we will soon see if Mr Bish is worth his wedge if he can pull off that coup

  • 34 Tsunki // Mar 8, 2016 at 5:12 PM

    Picture caption –

    “Oh oh. I can’t remember where I parked my car. Wait a minute…do I have a car?”

  • 35 marshy // Mar 8, 2016 at 5:13 PM

    these idiots in charge just don’t seem to get the urgency of the situation, every day delayed is another day nearer the championship. only at newcastle would this situation arise, we ,as fans, are truly *****d.

  • 36 Ron Knee // Mar 8, 2016 at 5:14 PM


    Perhaps by denying the stories wholesale? “We always have our meetings in York!”

  • 37 Jib // Mar 8, 2016 at 5:15 PM

    I didn’t realise that M. Byrne the resigning Sunderland CEO was a qualified Solicitor.
    The whole deal stinks – she’s trying to take the all the blame for SAdFC’s major bollock drop .
    I hope the FA and PL see right through it and throw the book at the scum.

  • 38 firebug666 // Mar 8, 2016 at 5:16 PM


    How can any supporter expect anything less from the idiots running the show?

    With the incompetence of the board lay bare over this last year, the reluctance from any of them to stand up and make a single decisive decision on any issue, and their total contempt for the fans, it’s easy for them to sell anything to the fans, they just hide in the office and send out an email to explain their ludicrous decision.

    The fans won’t buy it, well OK maybe one or two on here will, but what choice is there but to accept it.

    Protests and abuse are not going to shift them either, the only way forward is to get at the man pulling the stings at the top……….Ashley!

  • 39 lochinvar // Mar 8, 2016 at 5:17 PM

    La Fresa
    When the sign goes up at a well known establishment I’ll feel more optimistic

  • 40 chicousa // Mar 8, 2016 at 5:17 PM

    The idiots have bolted the horse to the cart alright, but unfortunately they got it on backwards and the cart is heading for a ditch…

  • 41 Ron Knee // Mar 8, 2016 at 5:19 PM


    Exactly. I was wondering what they’d put in the email – perhaps nothing at all!

  • 42 Tsunki // Mar 8, 2016 at 5:25 PM

    The board seem to be closely following the plot of Eric Sykes “The Plank” or any Norman Wisdom epic.

  • 43 lochinvar // Mar 8, 2016 at 5:25 PM

    If the Mackens have played Johson and he was deemed to be an “illegible player ” that would breach FA rules and the FA should take action – points deductions are then applicable ?
    SUFC and Ms Bryne might be aware of that possibility.
    That mess could get worse and the FA now have to show their metal as the Governing body of the sport.
    Could get interesting. Ms . Bryne hasn’t resigned for nothing. ,

  • 44 Belfast // Mar 8, 2016 at 5:27 PM

    They can’t be docked points. That was the biggest load of shite wherever that came from. Innocent until proven guilty. He should have been suspended with full pay until his trial was over. It was a mistake lifting his suspension and bringing him back and she’s lost her job over it.

  • 45 firebug666 // Mar 8, 2016 at 5:27 PM


    it goes something like this:

    Dear Fan

    We have decided that after looking at all the possibilities Steve McClaren is still the right man to take Newcastle United forward. We have spoken at length with Steve and he has convinced us that he can save the club from relegation and keep our status in the Premier League.

    We would ask our fans for the continued support of the team and their head coach, as we need to all be pulling in the same direction in this time of need.

    We will be looking to re-evaluate the situation in the summer.
    Now Penfold can copy and past that, add all the usual guff to fill it out and that’s a job well done.

  • 46 ToonRich // Mar 8, 2016 at 5:29 PM

    Whats to say Cathro hasnt had a hand in the diabolical tactics we’ve played all season? :/

  • 47 wolfshead@toon // Mar 8, 2016 at 5:34 PM

    fatty prob doesnt want to sack mac he does like a gamble after all maybe he is hoping he can do enough to keep us up then sack him next season by which time pinocchio will be out of work so he can re hire puppet number one

  • 48 Ron Knee // Mar 8, 2016 at 5:35 PM


    Could we have a “stand four-square behind him” somewhere in the text?

  • 49 Munster Mag // Mar 8, 2016 at 5:35 PM

    I dont wish to defend muppets like Charnley orAshley, but I assume they are buying time whilst talking to one or two managers. Neither of these managers will give a fast yes, because they know they need to negotiate to get their own system in place – ie not the Carr etc model. Ed wants him sacked now – but thats a stupid thing to do without a replacement.

  • 50 firebug666 // Mar 8, 2016 at 5:39 PM



    Just been reading that the BBC are reporting Macca decision in 48 hours.

    So that’s “48 hours”, and then “another 48 hours” must be Penfold’s movie night at the club.

  • 51 toonluvva // Mar 8, 2016 at 5:40 PM

    Re the photo in the article.

    It seems that Mr Charnley is thinking.

    “I’m thinking of a 4-4-2 system.
    I’ll use a 4 hole binder for all VAT invoices, a 4 hole binder for outstanding credit notes,
    and a 2 hole one for the rest.
    Now thats sorted, I’ll have a quick snooze during the match.”

  • 52 Tsunki // Mar 8, 2016 at 5:42 PM

    It seems fairly and depressingly obvious that Lee did not learn from his “no plan” method that went so well last season. He hasn’t deviated from that idea sufficiently to at least have in mind a decent roster of candidates at least ten games ago when it was already an unmitigated disaster.

  • 53 JackButler // Mar 8, 2016 at 5:42 PM

    If Charnley was any kind of professional he’d see that he is one of the major issues at the club, hold his hands up to being out of his depth and simply resign. This man is totally clueless and is costing us at every turn…………………….but then again the decision should be taken away from him by the owner of the damn club, but as we all know that’s never gonna happen

  • 54 spitfire_ // Mar 8, 2016 at 5:43 PM

    According to Guardian, we’re in contact with Benitez representatives.

  • 55 Tsunki // Mar 8, 2016 at 5:46 PM

    I have sat on a gummi bear. Again.

  • 56 Ron Knee // Mar 8, 2016 at 5:47 PM


    Didn’t they try the same tactic with Percy? Leave him dangling and hope he’d resign?

  • 57 Tsunki // Mar 8, 2016 at 5:47 PM

    Yay! The Guardian. Is there no end to the placing of bets. I bet the entire board is sticking a pint on this one including McClown.

  • 58 JackButler // Mar 8, 2016 at 5:49 PM

    The chronicle reporting that an update on SM is coming at six this evening, they also say we are in contact with Raffa’s representatives

  • 59 WWSBRD // Mar 8, 2016 at 5:50 PM

    “Alright Rafa mate u fancy a job in the premier yeah?”


    “Well mate I’ve got the job for u! Proper north, bleed black and white, Newcastle it’s the job for u….Rafa…hello? Think the line has gone dead Mike I will call him back next week” *click*

    I imagine how our ‘contacting’ his representatives has gone

  • 60 Ron Knee // Mar 8, 2016 at 5:51 PM

    “With time – and games – running out for Newcastle to escape the bottom three, it is hoped the switch can be negotiated ahead of Monday night’s trip to Leicester City, the leaders, but Mike Ashley, the owner, will not sanction a change unless the new appointment is a definite “upgrade” on McClaren.”

    Bishop at work?

  • 61 Belfast // Mar 8, 2016 at 5:52 PM

    Chronicle 6pm update: Steve McClaren is still head coach.

    *Now read five reasons why Steve McClaren is still head coach*

  • 62 WWSBRD // Mar 8, 2016 at 5:53 PM

    Seriously though Rafa would be well above our level in terms of stature and yet am not overly for it…not convinced he could make an instant impact and he will be off if we go down

    Tbh am that down atm there’s very few appointments that would make me happy

  • 63 JackButler // Mar 8, 2016 at 5:53 PM


    It is amazing how hard this lot make what seems like a forward and obvious thing to do. Every man and his dog knows SM needs to be sacked and replaced asap, but it seems that we are masters at making every single damn thing impossible.

  • 64 Average_Contents // Mar 8, 2016 at 5:59 PM


    Haha. You beat me to it.

    In all seriousness, that’s what it’ll probably be.

    How pathetic.

  • 65 firebug666 // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:00 PM

    Ron @ 56

    Who knows what goes on behind closed doors, they could have told Macca his job is safe, and this little show is just for us and the press.

    I doubt they would have just left him hanging, or to just get on with it without any word, if they did that would be a shocking way to treat him.

    I also doubt they would have said you just get on with it marra while we go off and find your replacement.

    So I assume he (Macca) knows what is happening, and is happy to continue in his present role.

    The chances are he will be moving upstairs once a new man is brought in, as this is the only scenario that fits what is happening with any credibility.

  • 66 Rotonda heights // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:01 PM


    season before last everton scored the most goals ever in one season in their history. would rather watch his mid table than moyes.

    coleman and baines have been way off form and they have have some shocking decisions this season, but martinez lets his teams play and doesn’t strait-jacket them.

    Benitez is the beautiful dream. If only. . . .

  • 67 WWSBRD // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:02 PM

    Yeah tbh even if it is just time saving what’s the point? SM (I still hold no ill will towards him as a person I must add) is not doing anything good, he’s lost the players in my eyes so they won’t give two hoots about his training it’ll just be going through the motions

    Sack him and let Cathro (if he escapes the chop and am not sure he should) take over or Beardo who at least would get their respect (ud hope at least). SM can’t be helping anyone anymore

  • 68 Jib // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:02 PM

  • 69 JackButler // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:02 PM

    SM remains in charge with board decision expected in next 48 hours according to the bbc

  • 70 Rotonda heights // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:05 PM


    would be quite funny and ironic if after years of gross mismanagement ash finally appoints a top manager like rafa by default.

  • 71 JackButler // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:07 PM


    Agree mate, I honestly don’t see SM as the problem at the club, he is, sadly, the result of the problem and that problem has been emphasised by the way they are handling this entire situation. At a time when we need clear, concise thought and a sence of purpose and direction, we get this confused dithering from Charnley and co that has only made a bad situation even worse. We may be relegated this season but without a doubt we will lift the Joke Club of the Season trophy thanks to the idiots that are paid to run us

  • 72 Rotonda heights // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:08 PM

    toon rich

    cathro seems to have been marginalised by the presence of simpson. i hope sm and simpson leave but cathro is retained. he and rafa could be great.

  • 73 Blackley and Brownlie // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:08 PM

    From Makro to Costco. No thanks.

  • 74 hibbitt // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:08 PM

    McLaren will say nowt do exactly what he’s told when he’s told to do it either way he’s in for a multi million pound pay off he’s just going to sit tight till they decide it’s win win for him

  • 75 The Diamond dogs hoojars // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:08 PM

    Lee Charnley wanted Macnasty, hes a disaster, maybe 1 per cent of fans want Mclaren still at this club, he wants the sack to get his bit, chief exec manager and all coaching staff are just not good enough.

  • 76 WWSBRD // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:09 PM

    Sorry I disagree Martinez is stealing a living, won the lottery in getting the Everton job after his Wigan circling the bowl career ended, mercifully, with relegation

    No excuse for that Everton squad to not be pushing for European football at a minimum

    Moyes teams were hard to beat and would punish u, people hated going there, he had no funds and built a top 6 team with youth set up and force of will since he left Martinez dismantled that and made Wigan MK2

  • 77 AndySco // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:09 PM

    The chronicles ‘big update’ is just a regurgitated article

  • 78 JackButler // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:12 PM

    Martinez, for all his pretty football is another Pardew, one very good season and a painful slide into defeat after defeat with no idea of how to turn it around.

  • 79 WWSBRD // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:12 PM

    Nar it’s Ashley 100% SM is just another body to throw under the bus, cheap option who could of emulated Pardews reign but he has unfortunately failed to even hit that standard

  • 80 Jail for Ashley // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:14 PM

    I don’t see how it’s easier to tempt a new manager while ones in place and taking training, as for taking their time to get it right then that means if they don’t think they can get it right keeping Mclaren would be the best bet. Has Ashley just had enough and threw the towel in.

  • 81 Hail Wor Ashley // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:14 PM

    Rafa the gaffer? Wouldn’t get too emotionally invested in that rumour.

  • 82 JamesToon // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:14 PM

    IMO its got to be rodgers to replace mcclaren, he’s got experience in the prem and did well with liverpool in his first few years, is a MANAGER and plays attacking football, his teams are decent tactically and organised well.

  • 83 Blackley and Brownlie // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:15 PM

    Why is it always the same old, tired names? Moyes, Rodgers, Rafa? We never do anything from left field. Why not search Europe or further afield for the next up and coming guy? Unfortunately, there’s no one at the club capable of making an inspired choice.

  • 84 only one bobby robson // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:16 PM

    This a sorry state schteeve mclaren has had 28 games to win matches with a more than capable squad what happened to us making our own luck from now on!!!!!!!!!!! There’s no chance of rafa even contemplating coming to a club destined for championship it kills me

  • 85 Hail Wor Ashley // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:16 PM

    Sounds like when we were ‘interested’ in De Boer.

  • 86 JackButler // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:17 PM


    Yeah, but it was Charnley and Carr that were told to find Pardews replacement and they gave us a man who looked out of his depth from the first preseason friendly. With what we have spent this season it’s criminal we are second bottom, we can’t score and still can’t defend.

    Ashley’s failings this season are the idiots he’s charged with running the club,

  • 87 JackButler // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:19 PM


    With ten games to go and being second bottom getting some up and coming manager is just about the last thing we need right now, we need a man with a proven track record

  • 88 Back Door Man // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:21 PM

    No, no and thrice no! I’ve posted before that the scum CANNOT be docked points … they’ve broken NO rules! Their behaviour is reprehensible but that’s all

  • 89 spitfire_ // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:22 PM

    Rafa maybe looks like a long shot and way above our level, but there’s one huge plus about Newcastle. It’s close to Liverpool, where Rafa’s family still lives.

  • 90 Tsunki // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:22 PM

    Jb – we’ve got one haven’t we? 😉

  • 91 WWSBRD // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:23 PM

    Yup but Ashley said it stops at his door, I don’t give two craps that he removed himself from the board instantly

    He has let us get to this he’s the power broker at NUFC to hold anyone else other than him accountable is incorrect as far as am concerned

    He set the blue print out, he filled the roles, he let us rot to the bare bones, hes the disease killing my club

  • 92 magscar // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:23 PM

    just seen story on SSN about Byrne’s resignation that Jib referred to earlier and whilst I have refrained from commenting on the Johnson story there must be enormous implications for Sunderland after these admissions.

    It would appear that she has thrown herself under the bus to exonerate the club presumably in the knowledge of where her admission could lead club.

    Would be interesting to know does she go with a golden handshake despite admitting to an abrogation of her duties in not keeping Board informed?

    I am trying to take a balanced view here and forget that this is Sunderland but the whole issue whether us or any other PL club was concerned surely has to be fully investigated by FA and not be deflected by what appear to be expedient actions of both CEO and club.

  • 93 JackButler // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:31 PM


    My only hope is that after yet another disaster of a season Ashley will now finally see that he has to appoint the right people, Charnley and Carr are simply not up to the task and need to be replaced as if they remain and we somehow survive this season I can only see the same thing happening again and again.

    But knowing Ashley, he’ll give both idiots new and improved deals come the summer

  • 94 GeordieTwo // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:33 PM

    So another 48 hours of waiting then. This is ridiculous. They can’t make up their minds. Charnley is hopeless. Carr is hopeless. Moncur is hopeless. Approach someone and see if they’ll take the job on at this late date. It’s not rocket science.

  • 95 the white tino // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:33 PM

    Back door man, are you saying Sunderland haven’t brought the game into disrepute by allowing a paedophile to play on and be in contact with other children for a year??

  • 96 WWSBRD // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:36 PM

    He may well get rid of them but their replacements will be carbon copies. If u want to know Carrs replacement just look for a scout/DOF who has a positive transfer outlay that’s why Carr is here in the first place and tbf had Ashley not rammed excess power on him most would still be high on him

    As for Charnleys replacement just look for a quiet company man within NUFC now

  • 97 magscar // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:40 PM

    Back Door Man

    I recall you posting on this issue in recent weeks and admit not disagreeing with your premise on what information was the in public arena.

    However does the admission by Byrne that

    she found out that Johnson had kissed and been involved in Media exchanges with girl after they had lifted his suspension but allegedly not informed club colleagues of this

    the club (or she – I can’t recall which) say they shouldn’t have then played him

    not affect your consideration of issue?

    Further should the FA be satisfied with Sunderland’s ( desperate) request to now draw a line under matter after what they presumably see as a definitive statement?

    After all it appears the club played what it now seems could be classed as an illegible player.

  • 98 JackButler // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:43 PM


    It’s not just the personnel that have to change, but the whole structure of how we are run, who in their right mind appoints the manager to the bloody board? It madness that would be hysterical if it weren’t happening at our club. Carr, to give him credit did identify some very good players but over the past three years or so we’ve brought nothing but duds in, with Winni and some of the kids being exceptions. For a scout he wields far to much say over who and how we sign players and has become a major part of the problem created by Ashley. Clubs like Southampton, Leicester etc etc have shown what can be done when selling for big money and replacing for small amounts, Carr’s star has most certainly fallen

  • 99 Belfast // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:44 PM

    So did we bring the game into disrepute when we played Remy when he was facing a rape charge white Tino?

    Truth is Sunderland can play him all they want until he’s convicted. Innocent until p

  • 100 Belfast // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:45 PM

    *proven guilty*

  • 101 Jib // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:45 PM

    Geordie 2

    On Monday 14th December Chelsea lost 2 -1 to Leicester

    Mourinho was sacked Thursday 17th December

    Guus Hiddink was announced the morning of Sunday 20th December

    Hiddink had done the same at Chelsea in the same circumstances before – it still took the best part of a week – these things take time – stop being a little Canadian shit stirrer

  • 102 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:46 PM

    Johnson told Sunderland he had kissed a 15 year old girl!!!

    That is not innocent that is admitting you are guilty!!!

    Sunderland knew this but still played him and he has scored goals that have got them points when he should have been in jail !!

  • 103 GeordieTwo // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:49 PM

    At this point it must be clear whether the Board supports McLaren or not. He’s had 28 games and won 6. Is that acceptable to the club or not? There are decent managers available. Make a decision and act on it. Earn your pay in other words.

  • 104 the white tino // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:49 PM

    Belfast difference being Sunderland have known for a year he met and kissed a 15 year old from Johnson himself, that was not an allegation he admitted it and club carried on letting him mix with other children

  • 105 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:50 PM

    Whats the betting Colo , Tiote and Cisse suddenly become fit if Mclaren leaves?

  • 106 WWSBRD // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:51 PM

    I don’t think the set up will change, why would it? He doesn’t care and the way it’s set up I’d have to hammer through 4-5 layers before even thinking about blaming Ashley it’s perfect for him

    The club stinks on every level but is it mistakes or by design?

  • 107 Lindisfarne // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:52 PM

    Why has Rudi García never been mentioned?

  • 108 Rotonda heights // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:52 PM

    Deaming of Benitez, dreading same old with Moyes.

  • 109 GeordieTwo // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:52 PM

    Ashley will wait this out but he’s finished at the club. No amount of promises in the summer is going to change things. We are run by buffoons with the Club Fool at the top. Once he leaves things can be sorted out if we get a decent owner in.

  • 110 Rotonda heights // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:53 PM


    charnley wouldn’t know he exists

  • 111 Jib // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:53 PM

    I see Sky have added SM’s last half season figures at Derby to his 30 games at NUFC.
    It makes horrible reading.
    He’ll never get another job !

  • 112 lesh // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:54 PM

    It’s becoming apparent that Charnley and his buddies have no intention of getting rid of McClaren.

    If I were in Ashley’s shoes and was genuinely keen to save the Club from the drop, I’d be taking matters out of Charnley’s hands because he clearly has a vested interested in keeping McClaren in post.

  • 113 Rotonda heights // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:54 PM


    stirrer would be enough why bring nationality in to it.

  • 114 Jib // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:57 PM

    Rotonda I mentioned Garcia as an outsider the other day (I thought you read every post )
    Charnley may or may not know he exists but Carr bought Cabaye and Debuchy from him at Lille

  • 115 GeordieTwo // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:59 PM

    Stalling at this point won’t get it done. It just leaves the incoming manager with less time to prepare. It should already have been decided. Another sign of incompetence within the club if we needed one.

  • 116 Mag52 // Mar 8, 2016 at 6:59 PM


    You and your dreams.
    Hopefully when you wake up it won’t be too much of a shock to discover the reality of who the board has/hasn’t chosen to take us to the next stage of the NUFC magical mystery tour.

  • 117 GeordieTwo // Mar 8, 2016 at 7:00 PM

    Everyone gets a chance to comment. It’s a simple, fair system. I have no problem with others disagreeing.

  • 118 Jib // Mar 8, 2016 at 7:01 PM

    Charnley is probably a crap CEO why bring the fact he looks like Penfold into it ?

  • 119 GeordieTwo // Mar 8, 2016 at 7:02 PM

    Charnley is going to be gone in the summer anyway. It’s obvious he can’t handle the job he has. Another example of a poor appointment. Shearer is correct. It’s a mess from top to bottom.

  • 120 toon kk // Mar 8, 2016 at 7:02 PM

    Macca said judge me after ten games, he should have been, then sacked, not thinking about it now. Ridiculous.

  • 121 jimmysmith // Mar 8, 2016 at 7:04 PM

    Ashley needs to reschedule a morning to directly contact his preference out of Rafa, Moyes or Rodgers and get this sorted, and then during the off season restructure the management of the club, meaning Charnley and Carr also out. Charnley probably should emigrate.

  • 122 Toon Tang // Mar 8, 2016 at 7:06 PM

    It’s like that kid that announces the flight details over the tannoy before a flight and all the passengers with a fear of flying shit themselves even more than usual

  • 123 Jib // Mar 8, 2016 at 7:10 PM

    I’ve just seen a tiny snippet of Manuel García Quilón (Rafa Benitez’ agent) being “doorstepped” on “Estadio Estudio” a footy magazine prog on Spanish Canal+ and he confirmed NUFC’s interest.

  • 124 magscar // Mar 8, 2016 at 7:11 PM


    Taking you as being serious and not in your joshing mood – but is it for us to decide if he is finished and that he then goes?

    Simply stating this doesn’t make it happen( or he would be long gone) so how long do you think it will be before he decides to leave so we can then hopefully get in a decent owner and he/she/they get on with sorting it out?

    Your logic seems to leave us in a sort of limbo if we don’t get this decent owner which is by no means a given.

    Equally, wishing McClaren gone, as I do but not, before a replacement is in means at best Simpson or Cathro ( Black anyone!) would possibly be in charge for Leicester and I don’t feel that puts us in a better situation. If it drags on and more points are lost it becomes less likely we get someone we want.

    This is all brinkmanship which I know we would rather not have but I can only hope that patience brings a reward and not just more disappointment. Actually scratch that word as it really doesn’t cover what will be reaction if they mess up!

  • 125 sparky55 // Mar 8, 2016 at 7:14 PM

    JIMMY…for his own safety for sure

  • 126 John Akomfrah // Mar 8, 2016 at 7:14 PM

    dunno why some entertain the moron

  • 127 Essex Geordie Bill // Mar 8, 2016 at 7:16 PM

    I think he would, let the dust settle for a few months and then blame the circumstances under which he had to work. Someone somewhere will think they are getting a good experienced manager.
    And to be fair there were a lot of games we lost that we should have won, if we had then the situation may look different now.
    I do think he has to go now, I’ve said that often enough but the main reason is that we seem to be going nowhere at the present under him and it looks like a lost cause. A change is needed.

    Having said all of that, if he stayed and we survived and he was able to turn things around I wouldn’t complain but that doesn’t look likely at the moment.

  • 128 magscar // Mar 8, 2016 at 7:21 PM

    I can’t help but think that Charnley and Carr are well aware of the implications for their jobs come summer and it is likely they are also on borrowed time.

    Carr is nearing retirement anyway and may not be too perturbed but would this thought make Charnley desperate to porove himself with a man universally accepted and gain a reprieve?

    Not sure he has the wherewithal and guts to get it right without some clear guidance and Carr and Moncur don’t seem equipped to help.

    Could do worse therefore than read the various polls and go all out ( if he has Carte Blanche) for top one then next on list and so on until he hits a winner. Can always blame the fans

  • 129 bettyswallocks // Mar 8, 2016 at 7:22 PM

    Jib….. Did he say whether he’s interested or not?

  • 130 Jib // Mar 8, 2016 at 7:22 PM

    Anything could happen
    Sky took long range shots of todays training at Benton which McClaren oversaw and he seemed to be laughing and joking with the squad.

  • 131 GeordieTwo // Mar 8, 2016 at 7:25 PM

    Good comments @104 magscar mate. This whole blog and all the others as well are based on wishful thinking. None of us have any power. I make criticisms of the club based on facts. There are plenty of those available. My wishful thinking is that Ashley sells up to someone who has the ability to make us at least a mid table club with some decent runs in domestic cups. I believe based on their performances to date that Charnley, Carr and Moncur are incompetent. As is McLaren. So the entire group need replacing. If Ashley wants he can continue to own the club but he has been a disaster and there is no way around that. Everyone is saying it based on facts. Wins and losses, place in the standings, goals for, goals against. It’s what we judge our club on. Protesting is the only meaningful action that a supporter can take if he truly believes in the club having a decent future.

  • 132 Jib // Mar 8, 2016 at 7:27 PM

    As I say it was a snippet
    He said
    “contactos de haber hecho lo que puedo decir no más”
    which is basically there has been contact but no comment

  • 133 Small World // Mar 8, 2016 at 7:28 PM

    = old words and tune we all know =

    Sacked in the morning,
    Yer gettting sacked in the morning
    Sacked in the m-o-o-o-rning

    = New words and b**gered if I know the tune =
    Sacked posssibly by some time end of the week
    Yer getting sacked possibly by some time next week
    Sacked possibly by some time next week

    Any songsmiths help out with the tune in case Macca the Nacca is still in place for next game at Leicester

  • 134 Jib // Mar 8, 2016 at 7:32 PM

    Hull had the ball in the onion bag against Arsenal
    Given offside but an Arsenal player touched it last ?

  • 135 Jib // Mar 8, 2016 at 7:34 PM

    Small World

  • 136 GeordieTwo // Mar 8, 2016 at 7:36 PM

    It’s difficult to solve problems when the group in charge are not up to it. Charnley has been hopeless since he got the job. What other club would have kept him on this long? And Carr is really past it now. He’s in his 70’s and clearly the increase in his power hasn’t helped the club in any way. Ashley hasn’t appointed anyone good enough to entrust the club to, as he didn’t in the past. So what we’re looking at hopefully is another complete clearout in the summer and the club going up for sale. Relegation would be disappointing but it might finally get Ashley to put us up for sale again. It’s a chance worth taking. Otherwise it will be more of the same for years to come.

  • 137 bettyswallocks // Mar 8, 2016 at 7:37 PM

    Jib……. Get onto it and try and find out more. Please.

  • 138 Small World // Mar 8, 2016 at 7:41 PM

    135 Jib // Mar 8, 2016 at 7:34 PM

    Oh I know it is Guantanamera. Was singing it with gusto last Saturday along with a lot of others.

    I’m struggling for a new tune for what are clearly the most appropriate words of “Sacked, possibly by some time next week” :0)

  • 139 Jib // Mar 8, 2016 at 7:43 PM

    I’ll drive down to West Kirby if you like
    It’ll only take me about 3 hours

  • 140 Dragon64 // Mar 8, 2016 at 7:45 PM

    why does a self made billionaire let a arse hole in charge of a football club something wrong or am i missing something.?
    ashley you bought the club so get rid of the dickheads you have there get a manager give him the control of the players he wants in sounds like a winning formula not rocket science.

  • 141 21st Century Schizoid Man // Mar 8, 2016 at 7:47 PM

    Possibly the most stupid statements of 2016 Volume 2

    “If we change managers now what message will that send the players ? We sink or swim with McClaren and his coaching staff.”

    “We have a top class coaching team with an exceptional head coach.
    If relegation should happen “que sera sera”.

  • 142 mindshaft // Mar 8, 2016 at 7:50 PM

    We’re f’cked – no decisions from Ashley and Charnley and Schteve patting each other on the back congratulating each other for keeping thier jobs … Carrs forgot what day it is and Bishop is sending out letters from the players telling fans that the players love Schteve and its all thier fault
    A thrashing from Leicester awaits when Schteve will say they are a top top team and we have nine cup finals left …

  • 143 welshgeordie9 // Mar 8, 2016 at 7:51 PM

    There’s only one person that can replace that clown mcclaren.


    I would vote for him over mcclaren any day of the week.

  • 144 Jib // Mar 8, 2016 at 7:53 PM

    The snippet has been on 2 more times and I got the missus (she’s a spanish lecturer ) to listen.
    The only other thing we can make out more on a very poor quality loop is
    “pidiendo garantías”
    which is the usual footyspeak – seeking assurances.

  • 145 welshgeordie9 // Mar 8, 2016 at 7:54 PM

    Can’t believe there’s still no news, people pissing about as usual.

  • 146 bettyswallocks // Mar 8, 2016 at 7:57 PM

    Jib……. Thanks. Sounds like there’s been some contact. Shan’t hold my breath though.

  • 147 Jib // Mar 8, 2016 at 7:58 PM

    You need to stay focussed on what’s going to happen to your boys at Twickers 16.50 Saturday afternoon.

  • 148 bettyswallocks // Mar 8, 2016 at 7:59 PM

    Welsh …….. You could set up a similar character for your Swansea fans. Call yourself The True Taffy.

  • 149 21st Century Schizoid Man // Mar 8, 2016 at 8:01 PM

    True Geordie needs to replace Charnley.
    He has to go after this debacle.
    Can’t make a decision; doesn’t do contingency planning. 3rd rate

  • 150 21st Century Schizoid Man // Mar 8, 2016 at 8:03 PM


    At one time in Swansea you couldn’t get a job with teh council unless you ‘knew’ a councillor.. a bit T Dan Smith like.

    The Welsh Labour Party who ran the show in Swansea were called the Taffia

  • 151 stuart no9 // Mar 8, 2016 at 8:06 PM

    im not sure who looks the more repulsive charnley or ashley ? charnley has just one of yhose faces that you just want to punch straight between the eyes , sorry lol , but iys true isint it ,lol

  • 152 GeordieTwo // Mar 8, 2016 at 8:15 PM

    Latest advertisement in the papers for new Newcastle boss:
    We are looking for a bright, enterprising young man to lead us into the future. Knowledge of football not essential but would be considered a bonus. Must work with top, top football executives like Lee “top 8 for us” Charnley and Graham “I’m sure Thauvin will come good” Carr. If you have a nice, entertaining story for the journo’s after each match that would also be looked on with favour. Please send in your resume, but there’s no real hurry as we have all of 10 matches left.

  • 153 bettyswallocks // Mar 8, 2016 at 8:25 PM

    Welshie……. What do you call a Welshman holding a bottle of Champagne after the England v Wales rugby match?

    Answer….. Waiter.

  • 154 Average_Contents // Mar 8, 2016 at 8:33 PM

    Nicely put BandB.

  • 155 Laurent Robert 32 // Mar 8, 2016 at 8:37 PM

    Nice to hear rumours of a Benitez link, it’s better than none at this stage.

    Keep getting lower level British managers in, keep getting appalling results and performances, it’s no surprise.

    It needs to be done soon because I dread that Sunderland game if McClaren is in charge with the way things are, never mind the Leicester game.

  • 156 Back Door Man // Mar 8, 2016 at 8:38 PM

    Like most right-thinking folk on here, I’m of the firm belief that that tatty tin shed on the banks of the fetid Wear stream should be bulldozed flat and cabbages planted and all their points given to us; however … rules are rules.

    The Premier League Articles of Association for its members doesn’t allow for points deductions in cases like this (say, bringing the game into disrepute); ditto, the FA. There may be scope for fines but that’s all.

    On a general point of principle … it would be wrong to apply retrospectively any punishment for breaking a non-existent rule.

    The white tino @95 & magscar @97 … what the scum did was disgusting and they knew exactly what they were doing was disgusting, however, the vile Johnson was never ineligible to play as he continued to be registered. I think it inexcusable that they allowed the nonce free to wander the dark dank corridors of the tin shed for over a year; goodness only knows what further damage he could have inflicted on other teenscum.

    That fat dozy scumbossCEO should have shown the Savilesque kiddie-fiddler the door as soon as she found out. Anyway, news reports have suggested that members of the scum youth team had a nickname for Johnson. Yep, you’ve guessed it … Jimmy Savile! This is a true story, so those in the club knew what he was like AND THEY STILL LET HIM LOOSE.

    Yes, it’s all morally wrong what they did but they didn’t break any PL/FA rules that would attract points deduction.

  • 157 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Mar 8, 2016 at 8:43 PM

    Would be interesting to see Ashley interviewed once we know we are relegated. McLaren will still be in charge.

    They will state that the club needs re-buidling, there where bad apples in the team. We will sink to division 3 in 3 years. The rest as they say is history 🙂

    Ashley will never change. The methodology of the club will never change. If we stay up by some bloody miracle, 2017 will start the same as this one ended.

    and so it goes. How Ashley has not stood up and said enough is enough it beyond all logic. It’s 08/03/2016 and he hasn’t done anything. Bizarre…

  • 158 lochinvar // Mar 8, 2016 at 8:44 PM

    Imagine walking into a room for an Interview and to be faced with the current Board, without McLaren .

    Carr – who has a contract to see him through to 75 years old as Chief Scout , living in France and seemingly only or mostly interested in French players.

    Moncur – sad to see and to say that Bobby isn’t the picture of health and I’m sure that all this stress is not good for him ( so hope he can retire gracefully from the Board and maintain an Ambassador role if that’s to his liking.)

    Charnley – hardly inspirational and seemingly little football knowledge. Does he have a sporting background ? ( even Mashers does )
    Anyone, yet alone a top international Manager is going to be impressed and I doubt that lot could sell a burger , yet alone passionately sell the vision and aspirations of NUFC .

    Now imagine a Board comprising Richard Branson, Alan Shearer and Ian McGeechan ( or similar )

    Who do you want to work for and with ?
    See the problem.

  • 159 21st Century Schizoid Man // Mar 8, 2016 at 8:44 PM

    Aye LR32, the only one off the list worth bothering with is Rafa. If he couldn’t turn us round with his track record, then I wonder who could.
    Although I’m with Rotonda on finding a wunderkind, Rafa is the real deal – if we can stand 4-2-3-1.

  • 160 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Mar 8, 2016 at 8:45 PM

    stuart no9

    Yeap spot on…

  • 161 Jib // Mar 8, 2016 at 8:51 PM

  • 162 Laurent Robert 32 // Mar 8, 2016 at 8:53 PM

    21st, if we lower our managerial standards, the rest of the club is generally lowered as well.

    Common sense would tell you to get quality in. Dangle a couple of million bonus at the end of it, and they’ll see it in another light I’d imagine.

    Not bad for 9 games work. Then tell them they have x amount to spend next year. Things can be done and it’s unacceptable if we get dross like Pardew and McClaren – plucked from lower league.

    Who knows with these buffoons though.

  • 163 Moonraker15 // Mar 8, 2016 at 8:54 PM

    Craig Hope @mailsport reporting Rafa IS interested in talking to Newcastle! He could definitely turn it around just hope it’s true as he must know our predicament!

  • 164 lochinvar // Mar 8, 2016 at 8:57 PM

    Not sure if this link has been posted earlier but clearly proves your point.
    Worth a read just to see how gruesome and negligent they’ve been in dealing – well not dealing with the whole sordid affair.
    Byrne clearly is trying to take some heat out of the FA’s impending investigation which must surely be happening – otherwise they themselves will be seen as negligent and held up to further ridicule.
    The so called 18th most influential woman in UK Sport is a former secretary and has links with the FA. Beginning to make FIFA look well run.
    Wonder what the FA will actually do ?

  • 165 21st Century Schizoid Man // Mar 8, 2016 at 9:00 PM


    Only problem is the elephant in the MDs office.
    On the pitch we could live with that if we had a high expectation, demanding guy like Rafa.
    Got a few bindipper fans in my family, and they look back fondly on Rafa’s time there.

    In terms of money – a top manager is an investment, not just money out, as everything else gets a boost too. A good man will know his own value too.

  • 166 dok - the horrid colonial // Mar 8, 2016 at 9:05 PM


    couldn’t agree with you more in your last paragraph…MA should think of the mgr as a player… lets say rafa keeps us up, and in two seasons, gets us to the CL… how much could he then sell rafa for?

  • 167 toon22 // Mar 8, 2016 at 9:10 PM

    “It emerged during Johnson’s trial that Byrne had copies of police interview transcripts in which he confessed to grooming the teenager ”

    Boom…byby 13 points.

    How can the FA not act when the club admits to their wrong doing ?
    Or are they to let the points gaind with the nonce playing keep them up?

  • 168 Tsunki // Mar 8, 2016 at 9:10 PM

    Many of us have said back before even the average one joined that the single best signing the club could make was a good manager. Never has this been more true than now, we can’t buy any world beating players to yank us out of the bog but we sure could stretch to a top class Manager, if only there was the will to do so.

    Unfortunately this has the feel of a long vigil over a dying animal. We keep coming back to check on it but it just lingers on in it’s misery.

  • 169 Tsunki // Mar 8, 2016 at 9:14 PM

    I suppose in mitigation for the unwashed, in their culture it’s expected that the grandmother should not yet be forty when the grandchildren sign on the dole.

  • 170 Laurent Robert 32 // Mar 8, 2016 at 9:19 PM

    21st, indeed.

  • 171 Jib // Mar 8, 2016 at 9:19 PM

    McClaren hears the news about Rafa

  • 172 Laurent Robert 32 // Mar 8, 2016 at 9:20 PM

    Moonraker, sounds promising if true.

  • 173 jimiley // Mar 8, 2016 at 9:21 PM

    Ed, Its good to see you getting upset with the senior management at the Toon. It is 5 years too late. After 7 years of making excuses for MA and claiming that he owned the club and would do what is best for the club because it is best for his pocket, the scales have finally fallen from your eyes. MA has turned NUFC into a marketing commodity for profit and destroyed the football ethos of a unique club. A club without a soul. His cronies run the club but they have no clue about football. Hold your head in shame Bob Moncur, a former hero of mine. Likewise Peter Beardsley. They have taken the silver shilling and kept their mouths shut. Too late to resign now Bob Moncur. The fans are also culpable. More so than they realize. They have supported this rotten regime by attending matches. The lifeblood for Ashley.They chanted for Big Sam to leave when we were mid table but kept silent during the reigns of Carver and McClaren. Beaten into submission by Ashley but only worthy of derision. They deserve all they now get. You reap what you sow. This whole regime should have been swept away years ago but the fans went along with it. Out of loyalty to the club??? Do me a favour. Blind faith?/. I have seen more moral fibre on a plate of mince. More brains even. MA laps it up and you are so dumb you put up with it. And Arsenal fans want rid of Wenger. Go compare clubs. Rotten to the core.

  • 174 jimiley // Mar 8, 2016 at 9:25 PM

    Remember ;”Hope is a dangerous thing.” Especially at the Toon where there is f… all hope. Only despair.

  • 175 jimiley // Mar 8, 2016 at 9:28 PM

    ANY manager who comes to this club now under Ashley is a loser who is looking for a pay packet.

  • 176 Bri // Mar 8, 2016 at 9:40 PM

    They don’t want to sack Mac.
    Would anyone be that surprised if he was still in charge come the Leicester game.At any other club he would have been kicked out the door a while back.
    Any Other top flight club would of stayed well clear of Wally but not us.
    That says it all.

  • 177 Sav // Mar 8, 2016 at 11:41 PM

    In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. That’s what we’ve got here with Chinless Charlie.

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