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Thursday Is D Day – Don’t Be Surprised If This Happens

9:21 pm, Tuesday, March 8th, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 81 Comments

It is pretty obvious that Managing Director lee Charnley doesn’t want to fire the man he hired last summer when he brought in Steve McClaren after Steve had failed at Derby County and had been fired.

It was days after that for some reason – you’ll have to ask Lee what the reason was – that he thought a manager who had just failed at a Championship club could succeed at Newcastle United a huge step up in the Premier League.

It was a poor choice from he start and so it has proved with Steve McClaren having the worst record of any Newcastle manager in the Premier League and he has us second bottom and 9 points behind 5th bottom Swansea.

What a terrible mess we are in.


Lee Charnley stressed out
He’s thinking about a decision he may have to make a year or two down the road
The stress is already showing

And the news  tonight is  that the Newcastle Board  – who for them are moving at the speed of light to reach a decision – may have a decision on Steve McClaren by Thursday – that’s the latest news from the Chronicle.

Who’s kidding who here?

But that’s the way Lee Charnley and the Newcastle Board work – they find it very difficult to make any decision – on anything – and simply dither around hoping the problem will go away.

Believe me – they never do.

So assuming a decision is made on Thursday on Steve McClaren, after all they still have two days to delay that, it will have taken them five days to reach it – and their dithering will have interfered with the team’s preparation for the game at Leicester City on Monday night.

And then – wait for it – don’t be surprised if they decide to stay with Steve McClaren and come out and say a suitable replacement simply was not available.

We are deadly serious on that – we are not joking.

Such is the ineptitude of Newcastle United these days – it’s been nothing but a circus since Saturday night.

Tags: Board of Directors · Coaching · Management · Newcastle News · Premier League

81 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Lindisfarne // Mar 8, 2016 at 9:24 PM

    no decision
    no dismissal
    no decent football

  • 2 Thump // Mar 8, 2016 at 9:32 PM

    Don’t worry, Schteve will save us. You can tell he will by the prompt decision making on the touch line, such as:

  • 3 Mackems are from MORDOR! // Mar 8, 2016 at 9:33 PM

    “If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find him….maybe you can hire…
    Ron Atkinson”

  • 4 jimiley // Mar 8, 2016 at 9:37 PM

    Ed, Its good to see you getting upset with the senior management at the Toon. It is 5 years too late. After 7 years of making excuses for MA and claiming that he owned the club and would do what is best for the club because it is best for his pocket, the scales have finally fallen from your eyes. MA has turned NUFC into a marketing commodity for profit and destroyed the football ethos of a unique club. A club without a soul. His cronies run the club but they have no clue about football. Hold your head in shame Bob Moncur, a former hero of mine. Likewise Peter Beardsley. They have taken the silver shilling and kept their mouths shut. Too late to resign now Bob Moncur. The fans are also culpable. More so than they realize. They have supported this rotten regime by attending matches. The lifeblood for Ashley.They chanted for Big Sam to leave when we were mid table but kept silent during the reigns of Carver and McClaren. Beaten into submission by Ashley but only worthy of derision. They deserve all they now get. You reap what you sow. This whole regime should have been swept away years ago but the fans went along with it. Out of loyalty to the club??? Do me a favour. Blind faith?/. I have seen more moral fibre on a plate of mince. More brains even. MA laps it up and you are so dumb you put up with it. And Arsenal fans want rid of Wenger. Go compare clubs. Rotten to the core.

  • 5 NUFCPaul // Mar 8, 2016 at 9:37 PM

    It may look as if there’s nothing going on because of the deafening silence from the club, but for all we know they could be negotiating with McClaren’s successor. The choice of the next manager is one hell of an important decision.

    Or they’re doing sweet FA and Steve will still be there for Monday’s game. Sigh.

  • 6 jimiley // Mar 8, 2016 at 9:40 PM

    ANY manager who comes to this club now under Ashley is a loser who is looking for a pay packet. The manager is not the problem but only a symptom of a much deeper malaise. Two or three relegations is much too good for this motley crew of management,

  • 7 goommy // Mar 8, 2016 at 9:40 PM

    SM fired.
    LC fired.

    that’s all..

  • 8 yorkymag // Mar 8, 2016 at 9:43 PM

    You are simply making things up and reporting as fact why?
    If they are to sack mc clown and bring in moyes or Benitez they are not coming without there team ,that takes time and the current lot will all be gone
    What is fact is there has been crisis meetings and no statement of support for the clown that would suggest things are moving
    We simply have no idea ,and to keep reading this complete fiction is a waste of time .

  • 9 Bri // Mar 8, 2016 at 9:44 PM


    They don’t want to sack Mac.
    Would anyone be that surprised if he was still in charge come the Leicester game.At any other club he would have been kicked out the door a while back.
    Any Other top flight club would of stayed well clear of Wally but not us.
    That says it all.

  • 10 NUFCPaul // Mar 8, 2016 at 9:44 PM

    Whoever comes in can pretty much write off the Leicester game (an improbable win will obviously be a bonus) but at least they’ll have almost two weeks to prepare for the derby game. Plenty of time to drill whatever patched up defence is available and get new ideas across.

    Rafa Benitez might not be the obvious choice when it comes to a relegation battle, but of all the names put forward recently he’s the one who will command the most respect because he’s won a few pieces of silverware. I don’t think the majority of our current players will respond as well with Moyes or Rodgers even though they may have more grit down at the bottom of the table, whereas Rafa is more used to being near the top of the league.

  • 11 jimiley // Mar 8, 2016 at 9:49 PM

    I hope we keep McClaren. We deserve it. Benitez is a top of the table manger used to spending dosh on his players. He is not a scrapper at the bottom. Too old for all that. But he may take the silver shilling like McClaren. The chances of McClaren walking are nil. They will all get paid off eventually because the club is f….d

  • 12 jimiley // Mar 8, 2016 at 9:51 PM

    Thursday is decision day. PITIFUL. Keep McClaren

  • 13 jimiley // Mar 8, 2016 at 9:55 PM

    NUFC is now a parody of a great football club.

  • 14 Bri // Mar 8, 2016 at 9:56 PM

    Judge Wally after our last game of the season.

  • 15 Graeme // Mar 8, 2016 at 10:02 PM

    If, as reported in the Guardian, we have indeed approached Rafa, then it’s not going to happen in 24 hours, thats for sure.
    He will have some major demands over recruitment policy, together with an indication of how much he will have in the summer to bring in some proper recruitments to sort the squad out.

    Rome wasn’t built in a day but, if waiting 3, 4 or even 7 days results in a Manager of the caliber of Rafa signing on – thats time very well spent in my opinion.

  • 16 Tsunki // Mar 8, 2016 at 10:03 PM

    Picture Caption –

    “Please please please let this be the ‘deflate head’ button…”

  • 17 Tsunki // Mar 8, 2016 at 10:04 PM

    It all really depends how much Rafa fancies drawing our ass out of the championship. With captain Colo as his main man.

  • 18 The Vicar // Mar 8, 2016 at 10:06 PM

    Maybe, and this is me being optimistic. If they appoint today the guy taking over will take control pre Leicester, a game we may well lose. So if they sack McClaren on Thursday, they can immediately appoint Benitez and let him watch a game we are bound to lose from the stands, before taking over and winning the next 9 games.

    If they get Benitez, Charnley and Carr are done as well as McClaren. He simply won’t put up with it.

  • 19 Jail for Ashley // Mar 8, 2016 at 10:07 PM

    All well and good and see where your coming from, but just sack him and put him and more importantly us out of our misery.

  • 20 JackButler // Mar 8, 2016 at 10:07 PM

    SM stays then we go down, it’s that simple and I’d be surprised if we won a single game of the team remaining with him at the helm.

    At least now there can be no question or denial of Charnleys ineptitude, he like SM should be sacked

  • 21 magicmac // Mar 8, 2016 at 10:11 PM

    The fact is it does not matter if we bring in the best coach or manager in the world, the real problem is of the pitch, Charnley and carr are not qualifed to do thier job and are the real problem, they are both a total waste of space, old man carr has wasted millions of ashelys money on totally crap players, and that little turd Charnley doesnt know what day of the week it is, do you honestly think those 2 wasters would get a job at any other premier league club, as Alan Shearer said we are a mess from top to bottom, these 2 assholes need to be sacked also along with Mc Claren, also the reason they have not appointed an new coach or manager yet is no proper self respecting manager would work under Ashely and his Clowns, we will either be stuck with Mc Claren for the rest of the season, or we will get another yes man loser and thats the reality, they are all toxic and rejects in charge of a fantastic and amazing football Club, i rest my case.

  • 22 Jib // Mar 8, 2016 at 10:12 PM

    There’s a lot of time and effort been expended by the new coaching squad , there is clearly an improvement in some areas of the teams performance at times.

    McLaren is certainly not now a PL manager ( if he ever was ) but not all he brought to NUFC was bad and the club must be careful not to throw out the baby with the bathwater.
    It seems to me starting from scratch every time places the club at a disadvantage before a ball is kicked.

    If any new incumbent makes it conditional of their appointment that the old coaching regime has to go , then so be it , but there may be compromises being worked on involving some swallowing of pride so the criticism of anyone should be kept to a minimum until we see how it all pans out.

  • 23 bettyswallocks // Mar 8, 2016 at 10:13 PM

    Ibiza…… Is that you @18

  • 24 Dondatta13 // Mar 8, 2016 at 10:15 PM

    Yet, Last season when we were baying for Charver to be sacked we were labelled “The mob” by Ed!!!

    Unbelievable I swear!

  • 25 martoon // Mar 8, 2016 at 10:15 PM

    The thing I don’t understand is why not sack McClaren now and put the assistant manager in temporary charge. Then negotiate for a new manager – it’s not really fair on McClaren keeping him in no man’s land.

  • 26 Graeme // Mar 8, 2016 at 10:24 PM

    Jail, they screwed up so badly with P45DUE, with no replacement and were lucky to get away with it. I really don’t think they will sack McWally until they have an agreement in place with whoever is coming in.
    Maybe, unlikely I know, but just maybe they learned something from their last fiasco!!

  • 27 only one bobby robson // Mar 8, 2016 at 10:26 PM

    We are the laughing stock of the whole football league not just the premiership! The rest of the country must think were muppets putting up with this I’ve never been so embarrassed for my team in 34 years supporting them this charnley makes Freddy shepherd look like a great chairman! Shepherd would have sacked schteeve a long time ago I find this fiasco an outrage and I’m really struggling I’m sure there’s others out there that feel the same way I could throttle charnley and mclaren he couldn’t run a bath mind!

  • 28 Tsunki // Mar 8, 2016 at 10:26 PM

    There’s still time for us to be the mob / crew / gaggle / shambles / crowd / mass / assembly / rabble / shower / assortment / throng / herd / gathering……

  • 29 JackButler // Mar 8, 2016 at 10:28 PM

    Any other club would have had this whole situation wrapped up by now with everyone looking towards the next game and how they can get something, anything from it…….but now this shower.

    There is no reason, no excuse they can put forward to justify the way they have ballsed up yet another situation we all saw coming a mile away other than to hold their hands up an openly admit they have no bloody idea what they are doing.

    As a club we are the twentieth richest in world football but on a daily basis we are run like stall at a open air market and the reality is that we deserve to go down as chances are that even if we do somehow manage to survive this season, those in charge will not change or alter how we operate so we can look forward to another season comprising of “More of the same” next year

  • 30 Jail for Ashley // Mar 8, 2016 at 10:29 PM

    That’s karma for you, he’s kept that tuft in no mans land for about fifteen years now!

  • 31 Lindisfarne // Mar 8, 2016 at 10:29 PM

    Order in the court! Judge Wally presiding.
    The Prosecutions application for dismal has been rejected and having being found guilty of 28 counts of being unimpressed, a further 10 offences will now be taken into account. The Prisoner shall be taken down and condemned.

  • 32 Tsunki // Mar 8, 2016 at 10:29 PM

    I guarantee when McClown does get his backside launched out the door there’ll be some hack describing us as ‘fickle’ and ‘impatient’.

  • 33 Tsunki // Mar 8, 2016 at 10:32 PM

    So, Mike’s door. What’s supposed to happen there? Anyone?

  • 34 Average_Contents // Mar 8, 2016 at 10:37 PM

    Ashley out

  • 35 bettyswallocks // Mar 8, 2016 at 10:37 PM

    With regards to Mc C’s hairstyle. His wife has pointed out that a man who is losing his hair at the front of his head is a great thinker.
    A man losing his hair at the back of his head is a great lover.
    A main losing his hair at the front and the back thinks he’s a great lover.

  • 36 ToonMatt // Mar 8, 2016 at 10:52 PM

    The club is rotten and the blame lies with Ashley and nobody else? Any other club would have fans boycotting but not here, They show up and fill the stadium putting money in to his pockets, Ashley is a business man and could step in anytime he wants and make changes but he won’t, He has no reason to? He’s making money and has done since he bought the club, Don’t forget we are still in debt to him and that debt has not been paid off in the 9 years he’s been here? We are going down end of.

  • 37 Jak // Mar 8, 2016 at 10:55 PM

    Fatty is the one man running this whole sordid mess,if the idiots who attend continue to go they deserve all they get,this despot should’ve been run out of town years ago,he wasn’t,they’re as much to blame as him.

  • 38 lesh // Mar 8, 2016 at 10:55 PM

    Margaret Byrne’s resignation was clearly the result of Sunderland’s owner putting pressure on her – go or be sacked. The Club’s reputation is at stake.

    Now at Newcastle, we have an HC who’s never been up to the job. An MD, Charnley, who hasn’t the gumption to act when our club’s now seen as a laughing stock blithely allows McClaren’s continued presence at the Club. The players must now have no respect for McClaren.

    Ashley’s clearly not forcing Charnley and his crew to be rid of McLaren – why?

  • 39 Online Guy // Mar 8, 2016 at 11:00 PM


    If one is loosing the hair at the back of the head one is to close to the headboard during fun and games

  • 40 lochinvar // Mar 8, 2016 at 11:05 PM

    Why is Thursday Doris Day ?

  • 41 jayphoto // Mar 8, 2016 at 11:07 PM

    Couple of papers have us looking at Lucien Favre and Raddy Antic! Raddy bloody Antic! Be a disaster

  • 42 Belfast // Mar 8, 2016 at 11:11 PM

    I had a word with Roy Race earlier well I talked to him in a comic strip but he didn’t respond so I don’t think he’s interested.

  • 43 Jib // Mar 8, 2016 at 11:12 PM

    Antic is nearly 70 and retired

  • 44 Premiership Manager // Mar 8, 2016 at 11:12 PM

    At a guess club shares will be tumbling and any investors will not be happy. From a business perspective the club is in free fall and Ashley is losing money hand over fist.

    Take into account Cabella, Marvaux, Goufran, Thauvin and some of the younger players we’ve bought and paid and the losses amount to millions. Now look at if we go down and the net worth of the players we bought.

    Mitrovic now worth about £6-8M, Wijnaldum £10M, Perez £8M, Sissoko, £10M, Mbemba £8M, Townsend £8M, Shelvey £8M, the rest £1-5M per player with quite a few free transfers. While some will leave others will think I have a very good contract, they can pay me until it ends even if it bleeds the club dry.

    Ultimately Penfold and Car are responsible and in any other business they would be gone, no excuses, no compensation as I would take them to the cleaners for gross incompetence, negligence and endangering the future of the club.

    McClaren would be exactly the same, he has a clear job description, he has been fully backed by the club and has been proved to be incompetent and would be dismissed on these grounds. If any of them wanted compensation they would need to take me to court for it.

    As for the club the new manager will have a host of demands and if he doesn’t demand total control, he is not worth employing because putting it simply he will fail before he starts. We need 5 world class players, CB, LB, RB, DM, CF to plug the gaps and give essential cover and the youth team and coaching staff need to be restructured and that will require a minimum of a £100M budget in the first year.

    If we go down you can halve that however if we are looking at building for the future there is only one choice and that is Benitez or Pelegrini. The only way I would accept Moyes would be on a temporary contract with a review at the end of the season.

    As for the board by keeping McClaren on board they have better negotiating power, if he was sacked we would be held to ransom.

    As for sacking him, there is no other decision to be made, he has to go as his position has become untenable, no confidence, no drive, no passion just sheer desperation and one poor decision after another.

    If he is in charge at Leicester he and the team will be boo’d from the minute they walk out of the tunnel to when they leave the pitch. The impact this will have on the players is they will not want to wear the shirt again.

    A new manager brings new hope and may give that little spark of passion and pride that may just be enough to keep us up.

    It will be Ashley’s biggest decision since buying the club however if he leaves it to Penfold he will get exactly what he deserves. McClaren may be partly to blame however he should not suffer the consequences alone as the board who have failed the investors are equally accountable and as such should suffer exactly the same consequences.

  • 45 Thump // Mar 8, 2016 at 11:18 PM

    @Premiership Manager: Shares? NUFC isn’t a publicly traded company anymore – Ashley owns us outright.

  • 46 jayphoto // Mar 8, 2016 at 11:18 PM

    @jib – hes 67 and hasn’t retired. Was managing in China up until last year!

  • 47 Jib // Mar 8, 2016 at 11:37 PM

    “Premiership Manager //At a guess club shares will be tumbling and any investors will not be happy.”

    Newcastle United came to the stock market in 1997, giving thousands of supporters the chance to buy a real stake in the club The share issue was hugely oversubscribed.
    The shares, floated at 140p each, dwindled to around 20p by late 2002 even though NUFC finished 4th.
    In June 2007 that billionaire Mike Ashley took control when he acquired the 28% shareholding owned by club chairman Freddy Shepherd. This led to a formal takeover offer of 101p a share to all shareholders.
    Shortly before the club cancelled its listing on the London Stock Exchange in July 2007, Ashley announced he owned 94%,

  • 48 jane // Mar 8, 2016 at 11:39 PM

    our relegation odds are about the same as Sunderlands. this indicates that even if McClaren isn’t sacked there isn’t much to choose between us and Sunderland and Ashley will know this and if he is prepared to gamble it is a coin toss. the reality is that even if McClaren isn’t sacked we may not be relegated which Ashley will be thinking. so when people on here say ‘we are definitely going down’ that is actually isn’t correct. if McClaren stays we have to get behind the team and they have to do everything to stay up and it is possible they can.

    don’t give up if McClaren stays, I’m just preparing you. 🙂

  • 49 Munster Mag // Mar 8, 2016 at 11:43 PM

    Rafa wud bring massive kudos and respect. It would be fantastic work by charnley if we could get him

  • 50 Jib // Mar 8, 2016 at 11:44 PM


    I said nearly 70

    On 27 January 2015, he signed a three-year contract with China League One side Hebei Zhongji.He was sacked by Hebei Zhongji on 18 August 2015 due to failing to lead the club into the promotion zone.

    At the end of December he was in the frame for the Slovenian natianal side but Srecko Katanec got it and after that he said that was it.

  • 51 Jak // Mar 8, 2016 at 11:45 PM

    This could be the proverbial nail in fatties coffin.He’s calling the shots.Here’s hoping he gives Donald Trump another chance,they get relegated & the wonga brigade weep on their tatty shirts & jabba decides he’s had enough & decides to leave our fair city otherwise this circus could go on for years.

  • 52 serene0380 // Mar 8, 2016 at 11:54 PM

    Mike Ash, you better do something to save the club. Saving money and not getting a good manager to the club will not be a successful ideas. Its time for you to invest your money to get a good manager. You are just relying on your managing director who does nothing and just collecting his salary. Why not get his salary and get a good manager in charge?????

  • 53 Essex Geordie Bill // Mar 8, 2016 at 11:57 PM

    For the people who say Cathro is to young to take charge. He is actually a year older than the Hoffenheim manager who is doing well for them.

    I don’t think we’d have anything to lose by appointing him.

    Although if they want to appoint someone already in the set up it’ll probably be Moncur, he’s got managerial experience. 😉

  • 54 Essex Geordie Bill // Mar 9, 2016 at 12:23 AM

    Looks like every one has gone to bed, think I’ll do likewise and wake up in the morning to a brave new (toon) world.

  • 55 Toonacious T // Mar 9, 2016 at 12:24 AM

    Newcastle United: Why can’t Premier League strugglers get it right? –

  • 56 lesh // Mar 9, 2016 at 1:04 AM


    Bobby Moncur as a stand in Manager? Give ower, he’s owlder than me. But on the upside, he has management experience…… with Hearts, Plymouth, Hartlepool and Carlisle.

    Why not Cathrow? Why not indeed?

    Presumably he was recruited by Charnley as McClaren’s successor. Succession planning.

    So if Cathrow’s not up to succeeding McClaren, he must another of Carr’s signings!

  • 57 jimmysmith // Mar 9, 2016 at 1:33 AM

    Those suggesting Cathro clearly haven’t been paying attention. Newcastle chews managers and spits them out for fun. We’ve had two of real note, KK and Sir Bobby, neither of which won a thing, and Joe Harvey’s teams really weren’t that great. The Fairs Cup win coming as quite a shock. Supermac was vardyesque, but we were still a battling side. You need real gravitas or inspiration, or I suppose to come along in a lucky moment. If Cathro were asked, he’d be better off pretending he didn’t hear.

  • 58 The overrated Frenchman // Mar 9, 2016 at 1:38 AM

    Cathro may well become a Premiership manager, but I just can’t see it working if he is thrown in at the deep end now. Benitez is the best candidate for me, because his experience and record would surely command the respect of the players. It’s too late in the day to develop a new playing style or philosophy for this season. We need a manager who can just impress the squad we have sufficiently for them to actually play for him. That hasn’t been happening. And you would hope/expect that Benitez has the expertise to quickly see what strengths (and weaknesses) we have, and pick a team that gives us a chance on that basis. [McClaren should have resigned, by the way. That would have been the right thing to do]

  • 59 Dingo†® // Mar 9, 2016 at 2:03 AM

    Few cities offer such a reliable barometer of the civic mood than Newcastle. Walk into any of the pubs along the short walk from the station to St James’ Park and — weekend or weekday, afternoon or evening – the ambience will tell you whether it feels like boom or bust at Newcastle United. Yesterday, as is the case all too often, it was bust.

    Newcastle memorabilia adorns every available bit of wallspace at The Strawberry, which Philippe Albert, the club’s much-loved Belgian defender of the mid-1990s, described as the best pub in the world. Long faces sit at the bar. It is the same at The Newcastle Arms, where the punters stare up at the silent television screen, waiting for Sky Sports News HQ to produce the yellow “Breaking News” bar that will give them the headlines they are waiting for.

    Once again, Newcastle’s supporters find themselves waiting forlornly for a manager to be given the boot. As it was under Sam Allardyce and Alan Pardew, so it is with Steve McClaren. “He has got to go,” Kevin Millican, a season ticketholder, says outside The Strawberry. “We’re certs for relegation. It will be a miracle if we don’t go down.”

    By any measure, McClaren has failed at Newcastle: failed to inspire, failed to deliver results, failed to rouse a club that has been sleepwalking towards another relegation. Played 28, won six, drawn six, lost 16 — it is another sizeable blot on a CV that has had precious few highlights over the decade since he led Middlesbrough to the Uefa Cup and landed the England job in succession to Sven-Göran Eriksson.

    When the time comes to discuss McClaren’s Newcastle tenure in the past tense, he will talk about the deep-lying issues that needed time to address. He will be entitled to do so — the rot has been evident and worsening for more than a decade — but the overwhelming need on Tyneside is for a manager to galvanise, energise, organise and build a team. None of that looks remotely possible when the incumbent is unable to stop the rot.

    That rot goes far deeper than the identity and the shortcomings of the man in the dugout. It always has done in the years since the late Sir Bobby Robson was abruptly dismissed in the opening weeks of the 2004-05 season. One manager after another has tried to recreate the feelgood factor that was so tangible under Kevin Keegan and at times under Robson. Graeme Souness, Glenn Roeder, Sam Allardyce, Keegan again, Joe Kinnear, Alan Shearer, Chris Hughton, Alan Pardew, John Carver and now McClaren. Perhaps only Hughton, of those, would look back on his Newcastle tenure with any pride.

    Increasingly, there is a tendency to look beyond — though never to ignore — the perceived bogeyman in the boardroom. “This season, Mike Ashley has put money in,” Terry Parkinson says, at The Newcastle Arms. “And the club haven’t spent it properly. He has put his money in, stayed out of it, left it to his board — which includes the manager [McClaren], the managing director [Lee Charnley] and the chief scout [Graham Carr] — and they’ve not spent it properly. Mr Ashley has put his faith in people to do the job right — and they haven’t.”

    The glaring lack of a high-class central defender and centre forward notwithstanding, it almost defies belief that Newcastle’s outlay over the past two transfer windows — the best part of £80 million lavished on Chancel Mbemba, Jonjo Shelvey, Georginio Wijnaldum, Andros Townsend, Florian Thauvin, Aleksandar Mitrovic and others — has brought so little in terms of quality on the pitch. The feeling nags, though, that some of these deals amounted to window-dressing after years of underinvestment.

    One source suggests that, with the exception of the 2009-10 promotion season under Hughton and the 2011-12 campaign under Pardew, the spirit within the Newcastle dressing room has been “dire” for a decade. The problem, this source says, is less about tension between different camps within the squad than about an absence of purpose and direction. “Too many players who think they’re bigger and better than Newcastle United and too many others who think they’ve made it when they get to the Premier League and can’t be bothered making an effort,” the source says.

    Every Premier League dressing room is threatened by a mercenary culture. It is neutralised, though, or perhaps even capitalised upon, at those clubs where a feelgood factor exists from the boardroom down — Southampton and Swansea City in recent years, Leicester City, Stoke City, Watford and West Ham United at present. At a club that lost its way under Freddy Shepherd’s ownership and has lost its soul under Ashley, that spirit seems entirely absent at Newcastle, where a devoted fanbase feels disillusioned. “We’re annoyed, we’re disappointed and we feel like we’ve been conned,” Millican says.

    “I’ve been following Newcastle United since 1967,” Stuart Dunn says, at The Newcastle Arms. “I queued for hours to watch us play Ujpest Dozsa [in the Inter-Cities Fairs Cup final in 1969]. Apart from a couple of insignificant trophies, like the Texaco Cup, that’s the last thing we won. A club the size of Newcastle and we’ve gone almost 50 years without winning anything.”

    “And the worry is that if we go down this time, which I think we will, we’ll go the same ways as Leeds United,” Millican says, the Yorkshire club having become a by-word for being left stranded in English football’s hinterland.

    Not for the first time, Newcastle are left looking for a Messiah. The concern is that any would-be miracle-worker would look at the size of the challenge and conclude that Newcastle look more trouble than they are worth.

    Who is on Newcastle’s board?

    Lee Charnley
    Managing director

    Yet to turn 40, but very much a Newcastle lifer. Mike Ashley’s point man and the executive who will ultimately decide Steve McClaren’s fate, Charnley has held a host of positions at the club, eventually becoming managing director at the age of just 36 in April 2014

    Graham Carr
    Chief scout

    The 71-year-old former Northampton Town manager has been, arguably, the key figure of the Ashley regime. Father of television comedian Alan Carr, he has almost complete control of the club’s scouting infrastructure and, for a time, brought a succession of bargains to the club, including Yohan Cabaye and Mathieu Debuchy

    Bob Moncur
    Club ambassador

    The last Newcastle captain to lift a trophy — the Inter-Cities Fairs Cup, the forerunner of the Uefa Cup, in 1969 — has long worked as an ambassador for the club he represented between 1963 and 1974. He was appointed to the board this summer

    Steve McClaren
    Head coach

    Unusually handed a role on the board as well as in the dugout when he arrived last June, a move designed to ensure more unity between the football and non-football staff. It is telling that the 54-year-old was not present at yesterday’s meeting in York, however

    from The Times – Oliver Kay

  • 60 davis_toons // Mar 9, 2016 at 2:17 AM

    “Rome wasn’t built in a day but, if waiting 3, 4 or even 7 days results in a Manager of the caliber of Rafa signing on – thats time very well spent in my opinion.”

    Good words.

    Rafa will have his own ideas.
    Whatever worst he can get, he will improve our passing which is key to football.

    Having said that, its impossible for MA to get in Rafa, just look at JFK and all the managers that he have got in..

    These big managers have big ambition and their reputation is at stake and they wants improvement and support that needs a lot of cash for the future and MA is not ready to invest in it.

    ..why should MA invest for future development when there are intention of selling?

  • 61 davis_toons // Mar 9, 2016 at 2:34 AM

    I don’t get why Mclaren couldn’t motivated the players..he cannot be that bad.

    Anyway he is still a better manager than Pardew. He need to fire up the players and at least get a draw at King Power. Waste whatever time there is in the match. Start it slow which is always our game.

    At home 3-0 down. Away will be worst, its a very hard game that comes at the wrong time…

    ..but i still believe we would survive this. We cannot be relegated or this time round it will be very hard for us to come back.

    The teams below are getting as good and their workrate and more importantly TEAMWORK is built for promotion. We will get nowhere with no star player.

  • 62 davis_toons // Mar 9, 2016 at 2:38 AM

    Do not regulated us.
    …how about a merger in North East?

  • 63 davis_toons // Mar 9, 2016 at 2:40 AM


  • 64 John Akomfrah // Mar 9, 2016 at 5:08 AM

    the whole fiasco sucks

  • 65 davis_toons // Mar 9, 2016 at 5:35 AM

    “I’m not surprised, [from] what I’ve seen and heard from the players,” Gerrard said, according to ESPN. “Rafa’s a fantastic coach, so I’m surprised that Madrid let him go so early. I’m a big fan of Rafa’s tactically, and what he does as a coach.

    “I thought they would have at least given him the season. But I’m not surprised because Real Madrid change their coaches so often anyway.” – Steven Gerrard

    Getting Rafa is almost like signing Gerrard for Newcastle United.

  • 66 Ron Knee // Mar 9, 2016 at 6:21 AM

    So. Farewell then,
    George Martin, Fifth Beatle.

  • 67 Jail for Ashley // Mar 9, 2016 at 6:26 AM

    Sissoko 10M. He’s having a laugh!

  • 68 Jail for Ashley // Mar 9, 2016 at 6:32 AM

    Look North news.
    “It is understood a decision on Mclaren will be made in the next two days, he took training but it is unclear whether he’ll be in charge for the Leicester game”
    It has gone beyond a joke!

  • 69 Ron Knee // Mar 9, 2016 at 6:37 AM


    I expect they’re desperately trying to find a replacement. If they don’t, where does that leave McClaren?

  • 70 Ron Knee // Mar 9, 2016 at 6:45 AM

    “Janmaat – a firm favourite at Newcastle – wants to progress his career and is keen to test himself in the Champions League next term. United will struggle to keep hold of him in the close season.”

    Would he settle for the Championship?

  • 71 firebug666 // Mar 9, 2016 at 6:49 AM

    I think Macca will have a lot more info than us, he will be moving upstairs no doubt.

    Or he is clinging to the last vestiges or respect while waiting for his big payoff.

    He didn’t seem to get things working throughout this season in training, and knowing he is sacked gives him little incentive to put in the extra effort needed now.

  • 72 Ron Knee // Mar 9, 2016 at 6:53 AM


    Moving upstairs: sounds possible from the club that rewards failure!

  • 73 firebug666 // Mar 9, 2016 at 6:54 AM


    Janmaat won’t be the only one heading for the exit door, I fear a mass exodus is on the horizon.

  • 74 Jail for Ashley // Mar 9, 2016 at 6:56 AM

    Ron Knee,
    It leaves him devoid of any respect from, the players fans and general public. Keeping him in charge for the Leicester game will more than likely see the biggest downing of tools we’ve seen all season. If it was the mind numbing tactics that cost us the game against Stoke it was a basic throwing the towel in against Bournemouth not helped by the decision to start Riverie.

  • 75 firebug666 // Mar 9, 2016 at 6:56 AM


    I don’t see any other reason to keep him hanging on mate, If they were just going to sack him it’s should have been done, and I’m sure Macca will have been in contact with Penfold for some sort of assurance one way or the other.

  • 76 Ron Knee // Mar 9, 2016 at 6:57 AM


    Would that include Sissoko???

  • 77 Ron Knee // Mar 9, 2016 at 7:00 AM


    The Leicester match won’t be one for those of a nervous disposition!

  • 78 firebug666 // Mar 9, 2016 at 7:09 AM

    Ron @ 76

    One can only hope so mate lol.

  • 79 Lilongwe Geordie // Mar 9, 2016 at 7:22 AM

    There will be an exodus, given the players out of contract. The rest will largely depend on who the new man in charge is and what division we are in. Even then, most that will likely leave won’t be a huge miss.

    Sissoko and Janmaat can go for me. I like Janmaat, but he is pretty weak defensively and at fault often. We would be better off with a defender who can defend first and foremost, but can offer some assistance going forward.

    Gini and Perez will go if we go down, as would Krul but he is less of a miss I think. I think all three will stay if we stay up and appoint a reasonable manager.

    After that, I really can’t think of anyone that has put in performances worthy of a transfer. You’d expect Cisse and Tiote to be available, but whether they leave is a different matter.

  • 80 hibbitt // Mar 9, 2016 at 7:29 AM

    McClaren is doing exactly what McClaren doe’s best waiting to be sacked and a very large payoff he’s not going anywhere till he gets his bit add to that Charnleys dithering and that’s where we are

  • 81 CaptPot // Mar 9, 2016 at 9:26 PM

    “no decision
    no dismissal
    no decent football”

    And yet the 52000 mugs will still show up at the next home game!!

    The way it’s going SMc will be able to do NUFC for unfair dismissal!!!!!………Undermining his position the with players, publicly humiliating him by leaving him in limbo, Untenable is the word.

    Sounds like a ET case to me, but why do us the fans put up with this sh@t season after season?, it’s about time the FANS took a leaf out of Liverpool / Rangers supporters book and showed their discontent by staying away!!. Could you imagine a LOCAL DERBY with only 22000 fans in the ground!! it’s not as if we’d win and it’ll be on every local boozer for miles around!!

    BUT NO, the mugs will still show up in there thousands and NOTHING WILL CHANGE :(.

    It take how long to sack a manager!!!, Chelski…..gone within 24hrs, Swansea….gone within hours…….NUFC….4 DAYS and still waiting, god help us all.

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