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Newcastle Growing In Confidence They Can Get Benitez

8:27 pm, Wednesday, March 9th, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 134 Comments

Another day and still no decision made on Steve McClaren taken by Lee Charnley – and this thing is dragging out to the embarrassment of the Newcastle club, who cannot seem to make a decision on anything.

So once again Steve McClaren will take the training tomorrow after he had a telephone conversation with the Managing Director this afternoon.

But surely this thing cannot go on too much longer and while the press conference for the Leicester game that was due to take place tomorrow has been cancelled – surely it will need to take place on Friday – and somebody will have to represent Newcastle.

However, the good news, maybe something that could become really good news shortly –  is there are various reports – one being in the Northern Echo tonight – that Newcastle are becoming more confident they can get Rafa Benitez to Newcastle.

rafa benitez waving

Rafa Benitez – talks gong fairly well

Newcastle have been discussing Rafa’s potential appointment with his representatives over the last couple of days – and reports are that his reps have been positive to Newcastle’s overtures.

There appears to be a growing confidence at the club that the former Valencia, Liverpool, Chelsea and Real Madrid manager could agree to take over Newcastle for the remainder of the season.

If that happens we would have a fighting chance to save our Premier League status – and if we survived then the summer could be terrific with Rafa in charge and big money being made available by owner Mike Ashley.

Indeed, it’s almost like Newcastle have to pull of a coup like signing Benitez or former Everton manager David Moyes after the nonsense that has been going on this week – which only shows up the club as being almost in a complete mess.

Rafa would be the best manager hired at Newcastle since we sacked the great Sir Bobby Robson in 2004, because he only got Newcastle to 5th place in the Premier League, after being in the top four and in the Champions League in both of the previous seasons.

The potential Benitez deal will be one until the end of the season and then presumably if we survive then a long term deal could be signed in the summer – but Newcastle must stay in the Premier League for that to happen.

It’s likely the basics of a potential permanent deal are being negotiated right now – but a three month deal will be the one signed by Rafa – if anything is signed.

What is complicating discussions is the power the manager will have in the transfer market, as we mentioned last night,  and it’s very unlikely the Spaniard would be willing to have Graham Carr making the decisions in the transfer market.

Rafa has so much more experience than Graham in signing players and he will also have lots of contacts throughout Europe – so if this is what stops Newcastle signing Rafa they want their heads examined.

But lots of fans thought those running the club needed their heads examined when they have kept Steve McClaren in place as he has taken the club into such a precarious position in the Premier League.

Another difficulty is that Rafa wants to bring in his own back-room staff – but why would we not agree to that – because it would give us the best chance of avoiding relegation in May.

It’s not surprising that Rafa has also been promised a huge bonus by Newcastle if he is able to keep us in the Premier League in May.

Newcastle have this one chance to gain a little credibility back with their fans, after what has been another disastrous season – much worse than last term.

They cannot afford to screw this one up – and if they do they are likely to feel a backlash from fans who are simply fed up with the inept way the club has been run for far too long.

Get Rafa Benitez in as soon as possible.

Comments welcome.



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134 responses so far ↓

  • 1 GeordieTwo // Mar 9, 2016 at 8:30 PM

    I think Rafa would be grand but really what are our chances? He’s a sensible man with real football brains. Would he want to spend time listening to Charnley prattle on?

  • 2 GeordieTwo // Mar 9, 2016 at 8:33 PM

    Is this all just more bollocks to cheer us up? Because we couldn’t handle another let down. If we really are going after Rafa all well and good but this had better not be more bullcr@p.

  • 3 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Mar 9, 2016 at 8:34 PM

    no he would not….. The man needs total control and a decent budget….

    If Ashley has a gram of brains he would appoint him asap….but he doesn’t seem to do so.

  • 4 ShirebrookToon // Mar 9, 2016 at 8:38 PM

    Think ed needs to spell check before he posts a new article. Gorwing I’m confidence hmmmmmm

  • 5 KevinHann // Mar 9, 2016 at 8:40 PM

    “Indeed it’s almost like Newcastle have to pull of a coup like signing Benitez or former Everton manager David Moyes…”

    Moyes a coup?!

    I’m shocked there’s no article suggesting Austin as manager yet.

  • 6 Spitfire // Mar 9, 2016 at 8:42 PM

    …..and if Mr McLaren had any dignity or bottle he would just resign now and leave the whole shower of them to sort out their mess

  • 7 Tsunki // Mar 9, 2016 at 8:43 PM

    Shire – just be glad it’s not “Newcatsle”.

  • 8 hibbitt // Mar 9, 2016 at 8:43 PM

    its all down to what Rafa wants can they agree i don’t know but if they can the odds on us staying up must be better

  • 9 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Mar 9, 2016 at 8:45 PM

    hibbitt

    one would think, but not with Ashley in charge…. 0 sense

  • 10 hibbitt // Mar 9, 2016 at 8:48 PM

    Benitez is a coup Moyes is more of the same

  • 11 bettyswallocks // Mar 9, 2016 at 8:49 PM

    Charnley had a mishap in the elevator and pooped his pants. He’s taking this shit to a new level.

  • 12 ShirebrookToon // Mar 9, 2016 at 8:50 PM

    Rafa wants choc hob nobs with the afternoon tea but the budget won’t allow it. A counter offer of rich tea has been submitted

  • 13 bettyswallocks // Mar 9, 2016 at 8:50 PM

    Good evening Welshie. How’ve ewe been?

  • 14 stuart no9 // Mar 9, 2016 at 8:51 PM

    Can someone explain to me how ed knows there is growing confidence that Newcastle can get Benitez ? Where does that come from ? Who knows that . ? Benitez promised a huge bonus for keeping us up? Says who ? No one been talking so how on this planet does anyone know those kind of remarks be genuine . It’s total garbage as far as I am concerned ,pure speculation to sell papers , and I’m surprised at Ed for believing such nonsense . Talk about getting our hopes up then half an hour later crushing us again with “maclaren stays ” headlines .
    Give over Ed , and wait for some evidence before writing an article please .

  • 15 21st Century Schizoid Man // Mar 9, 2016 at 8:55 PM

    KevinHann

    That’s Austin Powers of course ?

  • 16 TacoFlavoredKisses ForMyBen-arfa // Mar 9, 2016 at 8:58 PM

    21st Century Schizoid Man

    i think the big question is who does number 2(maca) work for?

  • 17 dok - the horrid colonial // Mar 9, 2016 at 9:00 PM

    betty…
    Charnley had a mishap in the elevator and pooped his pants. He’s taking this shit to a new level.’

    just spit all over my computer, please send me a new one 🙂

  • 18 Jib // Mar 9, 2016 at 9:01 PM

    These biscuit jokes are hilarious please tell us some more

  • 19 lochinvar // Mar 9, 2016 at 9:05 PM

    If Rafa is to arrive and has his own back room staff with him then that would suggest a more permanent deal. Unlikely that back room staff would roll into town for just 10 games ? Even more unlikely that Charnley would pay them on that basis.

  • 20 expatmag // Mar 9, 2016 at 9:06 PM

    BBC reporting McLaren remaining in charge.

    In the words of Private Fraser, “doomed”

  • 21 21st Century Schizoid Man // Mar 9, 2016 at 9:11 PM

    Expat

    only til tomorrow

    If he’s still in Toon Sunday then we’re gonners

  • 22 Jib // Mar 9, 2016 at 9:13 PM

    http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2016/03/09/potential-newcastle-boss-rafa-benitezs-bitter-feud-with-sunderla/

  • 23 only one bobby robson // Mar 9, 2016 at 9:14 PM

    Rafa requested Jaffa cakes to sign contract so charnley went to Tescos and came back empty handed saying sorry I just couldn’t get them over the line !

  • 24 Average_Contents // Mar 9, 2016 at 9:15 PM

    Someone’s at it again 😉

    http://mobile.newsnow.co.uk/A/2/820270148?-11058:809

  • 25 JackButler // Mar 9, 2016 at 9:16 PM

    Got a feeling we won’t be able to get this one over the line

  • 26 GeordieTwo // Mar 9, 2016 at 9:16 PM

    It’s like pulling teeth to get something out of this club. Is tomorrow decision day or not?

  • 27 Jib // Mar 9, 2016 at 9:18 PM

    I think remains in charge for another 24 hours.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35768923

  • 28 lesh // Mar 9, 2016 at 9:20 PM

    They’re still keeping McClaren in limbo – apparently pending the appointment of a successor (or so they would like us to think).

    What difference does it make who they choose to appoint? McClaren’s shown over 28 games that he’s not good enough so he’s not going to turn things round.

    Why the hell don’t they just show some respect and sack him now. Because Charnley hasn’t got the guts.

  • 29 firebug666 // Mar 9, 2016 at 9:23 PM

    Benitez would love the Toon, especially as there is no love lost between him and Big Sam at the scum, the rivalry for the derby would go up a few notches.

    And win lose or draw Benitez would demand a performance.

  • 30 Fostino // Mar 9, 2016 at 9:29 PM

    Mcclaren must be a harmless man…who’s only hanging around for a severance package. Why else would you hang around when the club are looking for new boss.

    On another note …we are a cheapskate club for not firing him and his crap staff already

    Benefiz woukd be awesome

  • 31 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Mar 9, 2016 at 9:36 PM

    BBC reporting McLaren remaining in charge. 😀 hahahaha love it….wow

  • 32 Lindisfarne // Mar 9, 2016 at 9:37 PM

    Shabby does not do it justice:

    http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/mar/09/steve-mcclaren-newcastle-rafa-benitez

  • 33 bettyswallocks // Mar 9, 2016 at 9:46 PM

    Alcohol won’t solve our problems, then again neither will milk or orange juice.

  • 34 firebug666 // Mar 9, 2016 at 9:47 PM

    Lindisfarne

    Reading that if Benitez gets the job it’s more than just McClaren that’s getting paid off, Benitez wants his own staff brought in.

    That may be after his ten games of cause, and only if we stay up.

    One way of the other this will be a nice little earner for Benitez.

  • 35 Jail for Ashley // Mar 9, 2016 at 9:49 PM

    It is actually incredible that they have not learned from the experience of keeping Carver and the devastating affect he had on the club. By holding on to him for so long it showed to everyone involved with the club what a bunch of clowns we have in charge, sure we signed players, only the very elite choose clubs now just for style of play or trophies, there are many more who are just happy with the pay day and don’t give a shit what happens to the club, we have about 17 of them in the squad.

  • 36 dok - the horrid colonial // Mar 9, 2016 at 9:52 PM

    firebug @ 29, my thought exactly… esp going into a HUGE derby…

  • 37 firebug666 // Mar 9, 2016 at 9:56 PM

    dok

    They fell out over a decade ago, when Sam managed Blackburn, and Benitez was at Liverpool, the spent a bit of time slagging each other off.

    Benitez will win us this derby if he comes in, if only to stick two fingers up at Sam 😀

  • 38 Tsunki // Mar 9, 2016 at 9:58 PM

    Picture caption –

    “Talk to the hand…”

  • 39 firebug666 // Mar 9, 2016 at 9:59 PM

    Here’s a link to the Benitez and Fat Sam feud if anyone wants to read it.

    I want Benitez in for the derby, simply because I want to see him get our team playing to win.

    http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2016/03/09/potential-newcastle-boss-rafa-benitezs-bitter-feud-with-sunderla/?

  • 40 Tsunki // Mar 9, 2016 at 10:00 PM

    Jail that’s exactly the scenario they are revisiting.
    “We’re in crusts and sinking fast, what do we do?”

    “Same as last year, Graeme. It worked, didn’t it?”

    “Well, yes…but…”

  • 41 Tsunki // Mar 9, 2016 at 10:00 PM

    Crusts = crisis

  • 42 bettyswallocks // Mar 9, 2016 at 10:02 PM

    If anyone needs to lose weight but still lIkes a drink try the red wine diet. You drink3 bottles of red wine every night and you don’t give a fcuk if you’re fat or not.

  • 43 Thump // Mar 9, 2016 at 10:04 PM

    @expat: No, they’re saying he’s taking training tomorrow. Basically “nothing has changed”

  • 44 Graeme // Mar 9, 2016 at 10:04 PM

    A little bit more on our managerial merry-go-round!!

    http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/mar/09/steve-mcclaren-newcastle-rafa-benitez

  • 45 Graeme // Mar 9, 2016 at 10:06 PM

    Oh, even more news!!

    Craig Hope in Daily Mail a minute ago.
    Exclusive: NUFC set to appoint Rafa Benitez as manager before Monday’s trip to Leicester. More to follow @MailSport

  • 46 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Mar 9, 2016 at 10:09 PM

    Lets get Rafa in !

    There is no reason he wouldn’t be able to get Shelvey, Wijnaldum , Perez , Doumbia and Townsend working as an attacking unit that would surely allow us to beat Sunderland, Villa, Swansea, Palace and Norwich !?

    That is 15 points right there

    You never know the feel good factor of a new manager could get a draw at Leicester we also have Southampton who will be on the beach and Spurs and City who will have lost the league by then so we still have a great chance to stay up !

  • 47 firebug666 // Mar 9, 2016 at 10:14 PM

    Is this believable by Craig Hope

    Newcastle United will give Rafa Benitez the title of ‘manager’ as they look to appoint him before Monday’s trip to Leicester – but first they must sack Steve McClaren after another farcical day on Tyneside.

    The Magpies want the Spaniard to replace their outgoing head coach and talks between intermediaries and managing director Lee Charnley have been very encouraging.

    Newcastle are prepared to make concessions to land their top target in a bid to save them from relegation during the final 10 games of the season, and that will include dispensing with their ‘head coach’ model. There will also be a significant financial incentive for achieving Premier League survival.
    Summer budgets have been mentioned during discussions, suggesting that Benitez sees a move to the North-East as a long-term project as opposed to a firefighting role.

    The only stumbling block is the level of control he will have over transfers, but Newcastle are so desperate to appoint the former Real Madrid boss that promises are set to be made over his influence. Benitez would also want to bring his own backroom team, and that would not be an issue

  • 48 Toonacious T // Mar 9, 2016 at 10:15 PM

    If, as this article states, Benitez is only signing a 3 month contract then you can’t in the same breadth argue that the major stumbling block is control over transfers. Why would he be worrying about that now of the contract is only for 10 games. He might not be here for the transfer window anyway. This doesn’t really add up.

  • 49 Toonacious T // Mar 9, 2016 at 10:18 PM

    Firebug 666
    cheers. That article, if true, answers my question. Three month contract is balls. As I suspected. I just hope the whole story isn’t balls.

  • 50 firebug666 // Mar 9, 2016 at 10:19 PM

    Toonacious T

    If he keeps us up he gets the long term contract, so that would suggest talks about the future would also take place.

  • 51 Tsunki // Mar 9, 2016 at 10:19 PM

    Unless he was disguised as the tea lady I doubt he heard all that. He’s going to look a bit of a tool if none of this happens. Sorry. More of a.

  • 52 firebug666 // Mar 9, 2016 at 10:21 PM

    Tsunki

    Yes he will look a tool, but it’s the Daily Fail, sensationalism is the normal routine at that place.

  • 53 stuart no9 // Mar 9, 2016 at 10:22 PM

    How about this for an idea _ bring in Rafa till the end of season and make Macca his no 2 . Brilliant ,it will sort a few things out and everybody’s happy

  • 54 firebug666 // Mar 9, 2016 at 10:24 PM

    stuart no9

    I don’t think Macca would take a demotion like that, but he may be moving up stairs into the boardroom full time, maybe that’s what he was smiling about.

  • 55 firebug666 // Mar 9, 2016 at 10:29 PM

    By Editor Wayne Veysey| Former Evening Standard, Press Association and Goal chief correspondent with 17 years experience of breaking big stories, including exclusives like this

    Follow me on Twitter @footyinsider247

    Rafael Benitez is set to be appointed the new manager of Newcastle, Football Insider sources understand.

    The former Liverpool, Chelsea and Real Madrid boss is in advanced talks with the Premier League club to take over by the end of the week.

    Benitez is in line to replace Steve McClaren, who will be sacked in the wake of a catastrophic run of results that has left the club second from bottom of the Premier League.

    The Newcastle board have held off from sacking McClaren while they source a suitable replacement.

    The top brass at St James’ Park, led by managing director Lee Charnley, are now confident they have that man in Benitez, who has been out of work since being sacked by Real in January.

    The weekend 3-1 home defeat to Bournemouth has left Newcastle second from bottom of the table.

    Despite three successive losses and just 24 points, Newcastle are still just two points from safety with ten games left to play.

    The Guardian reports that McClaren is well aware contact has been made with Benitez while the Daily Mail believes the former England boss has been left in the dark over the decisions in the board meetings.

    Potential candidates and early contenders Nigel Pearson and Harry Redknapp are thought not be high on Newcastle’s list and attention will only turn to acquiring Brendan Rodgers or David Moyes if Benitez rejects their approach.

    It is also suggested that the board is well aware a big character will be needed to deal with Newcastle’s high maintenance squad.

    Reports have indicated that the Newcastle players have already moved on from McClaren although the Magpies have strongly denied this.

    Newcastle face a trip to high flying league leaders Leicester on Monday.

    In other Newcastle news, Chris Sutton has said it would be a mistake to ignore Redknapp as a possible successor to McClaren.

  • 56 stuart no9 // Mar 9, 2016 at 10:29 PM

    Firebug …. Yeah but if Macca wouldn’t take a demotion , yhen what

  • 57 bettyswallocks // Mar 9, 2016 at 10:29 PM

    Sounds too good to be true from Mr. Hope and normally when something sounds too good to be true it is . Let’s hope it’s not false hope we’re being fed here.

  • 58 stuart no9 // Mar 9, 2016 at 10:30 PM

    Firebug . If he wouldn’t take a demotion then what are his options ???

  • 59 Belfast // Mar 9, 2016 at 10:32 PM

    Been a total embarrassment for the last four days now. A complete circus.

  • 60 firebug666 // Mar 9, 2016 at 10:33 PM

    stuart no9

    He is one of the board of directors, so he already has another role to walk into.

    He is being sacked as Head Coach, but that does not mean he will be sacked from the board.

    Other options for him, Move up stairs, or get the hell out of the club.

  • 61 Belfast // Mar 9, 2016 at 10:34 PM

    A manager preparing a team for a game when the team are just waiting on news of him being sacked lol

  • 62 21st Century Schizoid Man // Mar 9, 2016 at 10:36 PM

    Tufty can go and coach the U21s. Be an improvement.

  • 63 stuart no9 // Mar 9, 2016 at 10:37 PM

    Get the hell out of the club is what I initially had in mind . Ad I said everybody’s happy

  • 64 Toonacious T // Mar 9, 2016 at 10:38 PM

    Firebug 666
    I would have thought they would be better worrying about transfer control after the season is over if and when he has kept us up and the initial 3 month contract has elapsed. We have precious little time to waste negotiate hypothetical scenarios that could be worked out in the summer. When is he going to arrive? Saturday? Game on Monday night. Does that mean he would be on the side-lines or in the stands for that game? Just get the temporary contract sorted and worry about the if, buts and maybes of a permanent deal if and when he is willing to sign one.

  • 65 firebug666 // Mar 9, 2016 at 10:38 PM

    Belfast

    Then they wonder why the fans are up in arms about their running of the club!

    So Macca has the job of preparing the squad for the new manager coming in.

    Yep, Macca sat in his office with his feet up and a nice single malt to keep the chill off, that explains the chauffeur driven car.

  • 66 Jib // Mar 9, 2016 at 10:40 PM

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3484567/Newcastle-United-poised-appoint-Rafa-Benitez-manager-encouraging-talks-sack-Steve-McClaren.html

  • 67 Toonacious T // Mar 9, 2016 at 10:41 PM

    NUFC = a farcical extravaganza!

  • 68 firebug666 // Mar 9, 2016 at 10:43 PM

    Toonacious T

    I think that the Benitez reps will be negotiating the 10 match deal, and the long term deal the club want, X happens for the 10 games and if we are successful then Y will happen for the long term contract.

    Raffa will want some major assurances from this club given our recent behaviour from the board, and he won’t put pen to paper until he is sure he will not be stitched up.

  • 69 lesh // Mar 9, 2016 at 10:44 PM

    Firebug

    Your Mr Hope prompts a sense of optimism.

    Manager in, Head Coach out.

    But the real test is whether Ashley can be persuaded that Charnleg should lose his props, his committee, has daft so-called football board. Will Carr have his wings clipped?

    Hope, springs eternal.

    We can but wait and see what fate delivers.

  • 70 lochinvar // Mar 9, 2016 at 10:44 PM

    Maybe McClaren replaces Charnley ?
    Now there’s a thought – keep the football man on the Board and Charnley steps down due to the grief he’s getting and slips quietly into the night.
    Charnley gets the pay off not McLaren ( saving his 8 year contract )
    Rava as Manager.
    Everyone’s a winner ? ( in the Clubs eyes anyway )

  • 71 beermonkey // Mar 9, 2016 at 10:46 PM

    firebug

    cant blame benitez given how we have been run

  • 72 lesh // Mar 9, 2016 at 10:47 PM

    How many big name players has the Club been confident of signing….. and failed?

    I’m sure everyone’s braced for the ‘Couldn’t get him over the line’.

  • 73 Jib // Mar 9, 2016 at 10:50 PM

    By his own staff I guess it will probably be the mad Basque Pako Ayestarán when he leaves Valencia (he only went there to help Neville last month from Mexico) and I can see him assimilating Cathro into his backroom.

  • 74 firebug666 // Mar 9, 2016 at 10:50 PM

    lesh

    Ooooooooo! Not my Mr Hope, I just posted the drivel he wrote. But I also posted from another source @ 55.

    If it is true, then hope does certainly spring eternal, this is more than we could have wished for, and I will certainly look forward to the Benitez and Fat Sam reunion.

    I would like to think that major changes in the way things are done would happen, like Carr reverting to a scout, Moncur returning to doorman duties, and Charnley back to making the tea, but small steps in a positive direction would be very welcome in the mean time.

  • 75 firebug666 // Mar 9, 2016 at 10:51 PM

    beer

    Couldn’t agree more mate.

  • 76 beermonkey // Mar 9, 2016 at 10:57 PM

    firebug

    i cant believe we have even made contact with him
    he is the complete opposite of what we have been linked with and employed in the past
    benitez likes to control it all

  • 77 expatmag // Mar 9, 2016 at 10:59 PM

    Unfortunately, it is all too late. This should have been done prior to Xmas and not with 10 games left to play.

    It basically means we have to win at least 5 out of the remaining 10 games at least to be reasonably assured of safety and that includes beating a committed Sunderland and Palace boasting former managers who have a beef with the owner, at home and fellow strugglers Villa and Norwich away, who will be well up for it.

    I dont think this lot have the bottle.

  • 78 firebug666 // Mar 9, 2016 at 11:02 PM

    beer

    I think Charnley may have had a kick up the backside from the fat man, and told to get someone in who can keep us up, when you look at the options Benitez is about the best out of contract.

    If he come in I will defiantly stop spitting at the SD shop every time I pass for a full week.

  • 79 firebug666 // Mar 9, 2016 at 11:07 PM

    expat

    I agree it should have already been done, but I think Benitez can get the team organised, playing better football, creating more chances and making us a harder team to beat.

    It won’t be easy, but we will have a better chance with Benitez than with any of the others mentioned.

    I think he will have us performing like we did v Chelsea, or Norwich, we know the team can do it, I think he will give us that confidence that will bring consistency.

  • 80 Toonacious T // Mar 9, 2016 at 11:08 PM

    Firebug 666
    I hear and like what you are saying and God knows the Toon Army deserves a break for once.

    Expat Mag
    I agree we need at least 14-15 points from a possible thirty but I also think the only edge Sunderland have on us thus far is a good deal more fight, of which we have shown zero. If someone like Rafa can’t inspire at least 11-13 of these players to empty the tank for 93 minutes for the remaining ten games then I guess we at least will know for sure which players we will not want to have at the club any longer. I don’t think Sunderland are capable of getting 15 points either, especially if Defoe gets injured or loses form.

  • 81 beermonkey // Mar 9, 2016 at 11:09 PM

    firebug

    ha ha maybe 5 days a week is a little long

    i think it will give the players a bit of a lift he was madrid manager in jan

    i am sure sissoko will be impressed as he had never heard of mclaren

  • 82 JamesToon // Mar 9, 2016 at 11:09 PM

    Although I am starting to get excited about Benitez, I worry about the long term. If he came in and kept us up, will he be given full control? Is he a long term manager?

    + Benitez is a winner, think he will immediately command respect from players I think (hopefully)
    + tactically pretty decent
    + shows ambition from Ashley
    – I know it’s not important atm, but he’s known to be very pragmatic in his style and that may start Not mix very well at SJP
    – Known for a lack of youth development
    – Gerard once said he could have done with a few more “well dones”

  • 83 Laurent Robert 32 // Mar 9, 2016 at 11:11 PM

    Craig Hope is sticking his neck out with that ‘exclusive’.

    I hope it’s true, just hope he isn’t getting another dig in over the press conference shouting situation with McClaren and he’being a bit pre-mature.

  • 84 JamesToon // Mar 9, 2016 at 11:14 PM

    – questions about his zonal marking system as well

  • 85 magscar // Mar 9, 2016 at 11:14 PM

    Expat@77

    Hear what you’re saying but if it really is to be Benitez then if we had acted before Christmas I fear it wouldn’t have been him or any one of his calibre.

    It’s being in Desperation City that has brought us to this apparent resolution.

    Would have preferred more than 10 games but there are winnable games left but if it is indeed he there is no margin for error in those games.

    Would hope that not just a new manager bounce but his pedigree might inspire the laggards.

    Fingers crossed that this is real 🙂

  • 86 firebug666 // Mar 9, 2016 at 11:15 PM

    beer

    He is a man who will show us a different Newcastle team, as James @82 says, he commands respect and I think he is a very good tactician who can change the look and feel of a team with his subs, or just changing things during the game.

    The players will certainly get a lift, and should start looking like a team, there will be a lot less negative football, and the front foot will have to hurry to keep up.

    We have the players, hopefully we will soon have the manager to shape them up.

  • 87 stuart no9 // Mar 9, 2016 at 11:18 PM

    Expat .. I don’t agree mate , but it has to be done now. Not next week . All we need is a lift I also believe that is all the players need . Benitez would supply that. You know how a win can change the whole mindset of the fans and players ,I believe a new face , a face that knows football inside out will give The fans and players a gigantic boost , a wi over the Mackems will set us nicely for the last 8 games and where I believe we will be a totally different proposition and get the points we need to stay up. Don’t forget , we have the players, the class , and the goals in us , what we havnt got is discipline . Enter Rafa . He”ll sort them out

  • 88 Laurent Robert 32 // Mar 9, 2016 at 11:21 PM

    I hope so, Stuart!

  • 89 Toonacious T // Mar 9, 2016 at 11:22 PM

    James Toon
    Will be preferable to the current don’t bother marking at all system.
    On that note, has anyone else noticed how many of our goals originate from our right flank. Janmaat always seems to be the wrongside of his man. I also note how many times Janmaat fails to put in an accurate cross when he does bomb forward. I don’t want to become the new Toonbrother, seemingly obsessed with scapegoating one player for all our woes but I really struggle to understand what it is Janmaat is so well regarded by so many for. What does he actually bring to the equation. I’ve never seen it myself. If Rafa does come in I hope he can get Janmaat’s positioning on the pitch sorted because it is a major achilles heel for us imo.

  • 90 beermonkey // Mar 9, 2016 at 11:22 PM

    firebug

    if he comes in and saves us
    it might make a few of the players want to stay and not just use us as a stepping stone
    rafa will want win things

  • 91 bettyswallocks // Mar 9, 2016 at 11:24 PM

    I don’t think we should just assume it’s a done deal at this stage. We’ve been down these roads before and ended up disappointed.
    It would be a dream come true from a nightmare of adversity if it happens though.

  • 92 yorkshire_magpie // Mar 9, 2016 at 11:30 PM

    Sky Sports reporting this too!
    http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11678/10198533/newcastle-make-approach-for-rafa-benitez-sky-sources

  • 93 Toonacious T // Mar 9, 2016 at 11:30 PM

    Bettyswallocks
    It is better than the alternative of having yet another nightmare of waking up to find they plan on keeping McClaren in post. I hear what you are saying as we have had so many false dawns but hope is all we have left to cling at this stage amigo.

  • 94 bettyswallocks // Mar 9, 2016 at 11:31 PM

    We’ve been so starved of anything to cheer about for so long, if this happens and he somehow manages to keep us up he will be an instant hero on Tyneside. We might even get a competetive team together next season. Or is that taking the dream too far.

  • 95 Laurent Robert 32 // Mar 9, 2016 at 11:32 PM

    I think that spending the amount we did in window will have been a huge sway in his decision if he does come. Which is good!

  • 96 YoungMagpieFromBurnley // Mar 9, 2016 at 11:32 PM

    I’m surprised that no-one thinks that we’ll keep Mcclaren, maybe they will put him into first team coach? Something he is known for being good at. Just a thought, we known Charnley lacks balls.

  • 97 stuart no9 // Mar 9, 2016 at 11:33 PM

    Laurent.. I feel a big boost coming on just thinking about it . Trouble is if it Dosnt happen now I’ll be gutted , totally devastated . Back to square one

  • 98 magscar // Mar 9, 2016 at 11:39 PM

    I was joking earlier this evening about McClaren being offered a coaching role but wonder if there was any mileage in it?

    Apart from his waiting on the big pay off might explain the willingness to look desperate and weak where many would have taken Charnley’s door off it’s hinges at being hung out like this?

    Obviously there are some big problems not least Benitez wanting his own men in but could be a compromise? Equally McClaren would see it as a demotion but is he ever likely to get a manager’s role in PL or at top Championship club again? How desperate is he to stay at top level in some capacity?

    Not saying my wish and there are clearly what are likely to be insurmountable issues involved but it might explain the ongoing circus and Charnley trying to salvage something for him. Alternatively it is just a circus!

  • 99 Munster Mag // Mar 9, 2016 at 11:39 PM

    Importantly, no denials of involvement are coming from Benitez’ camp so we can be hopeful. Ashley has already showed he is changing. He has spent hugely this year and broke away from the french purchases towards shelvey etc. Rafa cud be a seminal moment in nufc history.

  • 100 Jib // Mar 9, 2016 at 11:41 PM

    If Craig Hope is right in his detail.

    That should be the end of the daft football board.

    Moncur and Carr retired.

    A proper manager with a vast database of footballers of all levels at his fingertips .
    Who sees a player he wants and tells Charnley to go and sign him.

  • 101 Munster Mag // Mar 9, 2016 at 11:41 PM

    Stuart 9 i agree entirely.

  • 102 Laurent Robert 32 // Mar 9, 2016 at 11:42 PM

    Stuart, yep. At least there’s some Hope – pun intended.

  • 103 magscar // Mar 9, 2016 at 11:42 PM

    Just read 96 I am not one of those multiples the Blog has been thrashing over 🙂

  • 104 Laurent Robert 32 // Mar 9, 2016 at 11:44 PM

    Crew/rabble/gang/gathering/group/unit/squad

  • 105 magscar // Mar 9, 2016 at 11:45 PM

    Jib@100

    Don’t want to get ahead of things (after all this is The Toon) but they were my thoughts as well.

  • 106 bettyswallocks // Mar 9, 2016 at 11:46 PM

    Stuart@97……..A big boost? Never heard it called that before. Lol.

  • 107 sparky55 // Mar 9, 2016 at 11:50 PM

    So long as the first thing he does is pay up colo’s contract and tell him to fcuk off back to Argentina then I’ll be a happy man.

    Why?..because it’ll show the rest of the squad putting in sh!te performances week in week out means you don’t play any more and no one is undroppable and there’s no favourites any more.

    and the second thing he should do is drop sissoko for the leicester game and remind him that if he doesn’t get picked for the remaining 9 games he’ll probably not get picked for france in the Euro’s and to buck his fcuking ideas up.

    And then I would then tell the team they’re going to go all out attack against Leicester and it doesn’t matter how many they let in…he just wants to see them play attacking football and that they should use the game to express themselves and show him how good they actually are.

    and then do whatever he has to do to beat the scum because that’ll be the biggest moral booster ever…the performance in that game will let us know if we really have a chance of staying up.

  • 108 Laurent Robert 32 // Mar 9, 2016 at 11:52 PM

    I don’t think Benitez can lose really. If we go down, he gets a big pay packet for coming in and can be released to go elsewhere – safe in the knowledge that the season damage was already done by McClaren.

    If he stays, he’ll get a big bonus, be a hero and be in a great position to build something up from a lowly old low of the bottom of the league with some decent enough players and the promise of buying his own next year.

    Win-win.

    If it’s true…

  • 109 Toonacious T // Mar 9, 2016 at 11:53 PM

    Right lads – I’m off to read a book! Actually enjoyed the discourse on here tonight. Mature discussion about football instead of the playground nonsense you see on here far too often. I hope tomorrow brings the announcement we so desperately need. HWTL.

  • 110 magscar // Mar 9, 2016 at 11:54 PM

    Sparky@107

    I think you have just thrown your hat in the ring should Benitez not be coming in 🙂

  • 111 Moonraker15 // Mar 9, 2016 at 11:55 PM

    Please god make it happen! Good night all .

  • 112 sparky55 // Mar 9, 2016 at 11:56 PM

    keeping Maclaren on in any capacity whatsoever will be damaging..he has to go because everything about him smells of failure and that smell has to be removed if we’re going to stay up

  • 113 VanToonMan // Mar 9, 2016 at 11:56 PM

    McClaren seems like a decent guy but I don’t think he has the correct understanding of the team. Seems like he chops and changes way too much and doesn’t know his best XI.

    Can anyone please tell me (i still can’t wrap my head around it) how Riviere was started over Mitro and Doumbia (champs league strikers) at HOME to Bournemouth?!

  • 114 VanToonMan // Mar 9, 2016 at 11:59 PM

    Doumbia hasn’t had a single start in a fair few games yet Riviere gets one after coming off the bench in the previous game

  • 115 sparky55 // Mar 10, 2016 at 12:01 AM

    LAURENT…I agree completely…he can’t lose for sure…there’s no reputational damage to be incurred by taking the 10 match deal…only good things can come of it.

  • 116 magscar // Mar 10, 2016 at 12:06 AM

    Calling it a night and hoping for this growing rumour to actually have some real truth in it when morning comes.

    Notice that Shields Gazette is still in the underwhelming mode of “Newcastle are hopeful…..” And “Benitez is understood…..” rather than any fleshing out the story with any fact 🙁

    If doesn’t come off I would struggle to think of a bigger let down at NUFC in my time supporting.

  • 117 Laurent Robert 32 // Mar 10, 2016 at 12:09 AM

    Been reading this about Benitez at Real:

    http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2571156-rafa-benitezs-style-reportedly-unbearable-for-cristiano-ronaldo-madrid-squad

  • 118 bettyswallocks // Mar 10, 2016 at 12:12 AM

    Magscar…… I feel also that this is a chance for them to salvage something from the wreckage that is NUFC and if it doesn’t happen for whatever reason, then second best won’t be accepted this time.

  • 119 terencelim // Mar 10, 2016 at 12:18 AM

    Ashley makes the final decision. In fact he makes every decisions.

  • 120 chiefone30 // Mar 10, 2016 at 12:30 AM

    Problem with McClaren is players don’t respect or fear him. They think he’s one of the boys, he’s probably always has a smile or that stupid grin on his face when he’s reprimanding them. They need a manager, someone that’ll will instill fear and respect. Benitez might be the right man , just hope its not too late

  • 121 Laurent Robert 32 // Mar 10, 2016 at 12:33 AM

    His honours. Johnstone’s Paint Trophy not even once…

    Italian Super Cup, with SCC Napoli in December 2014.

    Italian Cup, with SSC Napoli in May 2014.

    UEFA Europa League, with Chelsea FC on May 15, 2013.

    FIFA Club World Club Cup, in December 2010 with Inter Milan.

    Italian Super Cup, August 2010 with Inter Milan.

    Community Shield, with Liverpool FC in August 2006.

    FA CUP, with Liverpool FC on May 13, 2006.

    European Super Cup with Liverpool FC in August 2005.

    UEFA Champions League, with Liverpool FC on May 25, 2005.

    UEFA Cup with Valencia CF SAD on May 19, 2004.

    Premier League (La liga), with Valencia CF SAD in May 2004.

    Premier League (La liga), with Valencia CF SAD in May 2002.

    http://www.rafabenitez.com/web/in/honours/12/

  • 122 expatmag // Mar 10, 2016 at 1:13 AM

    Gentlemen and Band B

    May I suggest the following:

    Past experience with this mob in charge should be to expect the worst, that being McLaren remaining in charge and leading the club to relegation whilst in reality, anything different to the above would be a bonus, assuming JFK remained tethered and harnassed down sarf.

  • 123 SPRINGY // Mar 10, 2016 at 1:25 AM

    expat
    theres been so many false dawns this week…i dont really believe anything at the minute…even if he’s sacked live on sky sports the morra… i doubt i would believe it till i see a new manager/coach sitting on the bench at the next match

  • 124 FMTOON30 // Mar 10, 2016 at 1:43 AM

    Magscar
    I actually have had that same theory in my head the past few days as I don’t doubt McLaren as a coach.
    And given it has taken this long and he is still taking the training, means there is no intent to remove him completely from the club. He will lose the director role, that is for sure, but I believe he will remain on as a coach or in charge of youth development, as I do not rate Joe Joyce at all!
    What this means for Black, Simpson and Cathro, I do not know. I think Cathro will remain because of his supposedly strong technical expertise.
    Also, have we got anykind of information on this Liam Bramley, who is apparently one of the “next big thing”in English coaching ranks??

  • 125 RonVanDam // Mar 10, 2016 at 2:29 AM

    Rafael Benitez has been offered the Newcastle United manager’s job until the end of the season. The proposal includes a significant bonus for keeping the Magpies up and a long-term extension.

  • 126 SPRINGY // Mar 10, 2016 at 2:31 AM

    ron van dam
    wheres that from mate?

  • 127 RonVanDam // Mar 10, 2016 at 3:02 AM

    @Springy
    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/6989162/Raf-n-ready-Rafa-Benitez-has-been-offered-the-Newcastle-job-until-the-end-of-the-season.html

  • 128 RonVanDam // Mar 10, 2016 at 3:14 AM

    I think we will all get the news we have been waiting on, in the next 24hrs.
    We all have to keep in mind, SM as a coach failed at NUFC, but as a person outside of football, he is a fantastic man.

  • 129 Veltman // Mar 10, 2016 at 4:02 AM

    Well,I completely dismissed the possibility the other day, that mgrs like Benitez is coming to nufc under Mike,citing past appointments.
    However,Looks like it’s going to change now? Let’s hope so,and it’ll be a big lift if it happens.But I hope it won’t drags on further beyond today.
    Not noticed much but that man,Keith Bishop,or whatever his name is,has a big influence on the activities of this club.He has been in close ties since 2007.May be he’s the one who picked up Benitez this time as we know that Lee has no clue who & how to pick mgrs.Whatever it is,let’s hope everything will be resolved today as the team is running out of time to prepare for the next game.Hoping for more exciting news.

    Benitez…in
    Mac the moron…out! out! out!

  • 130 Santon03 // Mar 10, 2016 at 4:21 AM

    Sorry Ed, I disagree with you about Carr.

    Not all of his signings are flops and Rafa also signed plenty of flops too.
    You really can’t blame anyone for this, some players can be a flop if they couldn’t settle or too much pressures. They also can be a flop if mismanaged, the playing style of a team, training menu, playing position, specific duties, etc.

    Just like Pogba, DeBruyne, Sanchez and Ibra (FCB), Kluivert (NUFC), Balloteli, etc.

    Many things can effect a player can be flop and there is no way to guarantee that the player will be a great signing.

    One case that I know under the same management a player can be great again from being a flop is Honda of Milan this season, he was dropped from the squad but he determined to prove Sinisa wrong and worked so hard, now he becomes vital to the team and started every match, Milan went 9 games undefeated before Sassuolo game (all thanks to Balloteli for the defeat).

  • 131 Santon03 // Mar 10, 2016 at 4:28 AM

    Pogaba (MU), Debruyne (che)*

  • 132 Veltman // Mar 10, 2016 at 4:41 AM

    10 game contract with an option to extend further sounds a good move and a respectable offer for a manager like Benitez.What scratches my head is that this should have happened back in November or in January at the latest.If Benitez comes in and save us,and stays further,
    This might be a good perfect time to be a toon fan and get highly excited after long while.

  • 133 Dingo†® // Mar 10, 2016 at 4:42 AM

    Torres

  • 134 John Akomfrah // Mar 10, 2016 at 5:11 AM

    “benitez says no

    the daily bugle




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