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If Benitez Emulates Sir Bobby Robson – We´ll Just Survive

8:48 am, Saturday, March 12th, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 41 Comments

When Sir Bobby Robson came in to manage Newcastle United in early September, 1999, when Newcastle were second bottom of the league with one point from the first six games – we thought it would be interesting to see how Sir Bobby did in his first 10 games in charge.

That´s the number of games Rafa Benitez has to save Newcastle after the powers that be at the club left Steve McClaren in charge too long as he dug a deeper and deeper hole we had to get out of with each defeat – five in his last six games in charge – and even then Lee Charnley is reported to have still wanted to keep him in the job.

Anyway – as Rafa Benitez said last night on nufcTV – it´s now time to move on from what´s happened in the past.

sir bobby robson

Sir Bobby Robson – while at Newcastle

It´s generally thought that 5 wins and 15 points to get us up to 39 points – the total we had last season – would probably be enough to save us from relegation.

Sir Bobby didn´t get five wins but he got four wins and three draws, so he took 15 points from the first 10 games in charge.

So back then after 16 games we had 16 points.

Here´s the first 10 games that Robson managed at Newcastle and the results.

1999
11 September        Chelsea	1–0	Newcastle 
19 September 	     Newcastle   8–0	Sheffield Wednesday	 
25 September       Leeds  	3–2	Newcastle  
3 October 	     Newcastle   2–1	Middlesbrough	 
16 October 	    Coventry 	4–1	Newcastle  
25 October 	    Newcastle  	2–0	Derby County	 
30 October 	    Arsenal  	0–0	Newcastle 
7 November         Newcastle  	1–1	Everton	 
20 November  	    Watford	1–1	Newcastle  
28 November       Newcastle 	2–1	Tottenham 

So it´s not going to be easy for Rafa to keep us up – by any means.

Let´s hope Rafa can do it, with the help of every single player giving 100% in every remaining game.

For the players they should think of it as a second chance at redemption.

It´s not often you get second chances in life.

Take it.

Howay The Lads!!



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41 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Jail for Ashley // Mar 12, 2016 at 8:50 AM

    Beer
    I’ll wait until I’ve stopped peeing on it

  • 2 Tsunki // Mar 12, 2016 at 8:53 AM

    Whatever you may think of Mike, this is a masterstroke he’s put everything on this, benitez is no cheap fudge like Pardew or McClaren.

  • 3 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Mar 12, 2016 at 8:54 AM

    What a signing lads…! I literally could not sleep last night…Dreaming of how Rafa does his magic.

    I cannot tell you how important this is…only concern like many of you say is the fact that its soooooo late. I still believe its very doable…

    IF I have a look at the games there 4 are def winnable. and a few draws that surely should help us.

    I always LOVED Benitez…. You have to realise this the pressure he was on whilst at Chelski and he performed admirably I might say.

  • 4 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Mar 12, 2016 at 8:56 AM

    “and even then Lee Charnley is reported to have still wanted to keep him in the job”

    Whyyy is that twat still there??????

  • 5 Lilongwe Geordie // Mar 12, 2016 at 8:59 AM

    We have 5 very winnable fixtures, if Rafa can turn things around. We could get a point/s at Southampton if we are organised and well drilled. City at home looks tough, Spurs at home will depend on what they still have to play for. I’d imagine a few may start to take it a bit easier with the Euro’s coming if the title is out of their reach and they are comfortable in the CL spots. Even if it happens sub consciously.

    Liverpool have it all to do, so that will be tough, but again, they aren’t anything to be overly worried about, even though they are starting to improve and play more like you would expect from a Klopp side.

  • 6 Munster Mag // Mar 12, 2016 at 8:59 AM

    Fantastic appointment. The bottle of spanish red last nite has ruined me heed though!

  • 7 Munster Mag // Mar 12, 2016 at 9:02 AM

    Nufc very similar club to Napoli and that will help him too. Provincial club, massive support, love a hero like maradona or keegan. No wonder they are my fav italian club. Forza napoli forza newcastle.

  • 8 El Sleeve // Mar 12, 2016 at 9:05 AM

    One Spanish waiter, there’s only one Spanish waiter, one Spanish waiter, there’s only one Spanish waiter!

  • 9 Munster Mag // Mar 12, 2016 at 9:05 AM

    Its high time ashley was given some credit. 80mill and we tried to get rafa before aswell. At last a coach who can teach nufc to defend.

  • 10 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Mar 12, 2016 at 9:06 AM

    Hey Munster Mug…

    Same thing mate… 🙂 Love Napoli, Love Bilbao, Love NUFC.

    All we need if we are in PL is a few great players from spain. Alcacer, Correa, Carrasco, 😀 some skill pace, and a killer striker… Torres 😀

  • 11 Munster Mag // Mar 12, 2016 at 9:06 AM

    I think we cud go unbeaten till end of season….

  • 12 Lilongwe Geordie // Mar 12, 2016 at 9:07 AM

    Finally finished watching the interview. He speaks well, obviously you get the standard new manager at a club stuff, but he doesn’t brush over anything, or paint any false pictures which is refreshing after the last 4/5 years.

    Pleased he dragged them into training. You’d think we were running away with the league the amount of time off they have had this week. He will ruffle a few feathers as well and may well have done a bit of that yesterday. Will be interesting to see where he views Perez best position, and whether he recalls Arma.

    On Arma, did anyone read the stuff from Mowbray about how he is working with Arma playing in a deeper lying forward role off a big target man. Taking the physical advantage most centre halves have over him out of the contest and allowing him to be nearing top speed when he breaks the line and burst through. Could be ideal training for him to come back and play off Mitro.

  • 13 Lilongwe Geordie // Mar 12, 2016 at 9:08 AM

    Gorgon/Munster,
    Can’t say I’m a fan of Napoli. Parma man myself, purely because of Tomas Brolin initially, but I loved watching Cannavaro play when he was breaking through. I player I could only have dreamed of ever emulating. Sorry state of affairs at Parma now, but they will be back.

  • 14 Lilongwe Geordie // Mar 12, 2016 at 9:10 AM

    Munster,
    Ashley will get credit when there is sustained improvement on and off the field, and the clubs image is rebuilt. He spent £80million of the clubs generated revenue, not his cash. He appointed the board that have contributed to this mess. He still has a lot to make up for. Credit for getting Rafa, but I’d still say he is very much in the red on this still.

  • 15 Munster Mag // Mar 12, 2016 at 9:11 AM

    Yes gorg, and i am pleased to see carr finally getting the negative media focus i have been calling for nearly two years now. Keep up with Munster u well paid journos!

  • 16 Lilongwe Geordie // Mar 12, 2016 at 9:16 AM

    Anyone know if they are in training today?

  • 17 Munster Mag // Mar 12, 2016 at 9:17 AM

    Lil im not asking for ashley to spend his own money. He has been useless but far better since last summer. 80 mill is 80 mill and no players sold. Obviously he has been forced to change by rafa but he cud easily have gone for pearson and kept his model. Now carr will no longer be the key advisor in the club so we can celebrate that too.

  • 18 Munster Mag // Mar 12, 2016 at 9:18 AM

    They will be lil!

  • 19 optimistic prime // Mar 12, 2016 at 9:21 AM

    Wow, it wasn’t a dream

  • 20 Lilongwe Geordie // Mar 12, 2016 at 9:22 AM

    Munster,
    Has Carr gone? Carr is still a decent scout, he was just elevated way above his station and there was no check or authority above him to control and over see it. Hopefully, Benitez will be part of that check and will be a large part of the decision making process. I wouldn’t want Rafa having full control, he has also made some terrible signings and wasted small fortunes.

    We will see what happens in the summer and if there is a boardroom restructure with competent people brought into relevant roles. That will be more of an indication of where Ashley is at regarding it all.

  • 21 beermonkey // Mar 12, 2016 at 9:24 AM

    lilongwe

    i didnt read that about arma
    i think there doing a good with him down there
    do you know how bigi is getting on

  • 22 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Mar 12, 2016 at 9:24 AM

    Lilongwe,

    Mate I love Parma too huge soft spot… After all Asrilla came from Parma….love their Kit. I hope they come back too. had some superb players…

    I really do hope under Rafa we get rid of Deadwood in the club in the summer…

    We truly need focused, specific signings that will give us success..

    Signings like Ginola, Ferdinand, Beardsley, Lee, Robert…

    Players that where signed not necessarily with a huge amount of money but would WORK for us.

    On top of which a finisher game changer striker over the summer is a must. And not a baby but a lad Mitro and co can learn from.

  • 23 Ian Toon // Mar 12, 2016 at 9:25 AM

    Thank goodness Steve Black has gone. It was apparent pretty much from the off that the vast majority of our players were not impressed by the out dated sports psychologist. They openly rebelled against his constant attempts to get inside their heads to coax out better playing performances. Players want to be inspired, but not through talking to a therapist but by strong characters and man motivators and thereafter with motivation coming from within. This is where the likes of Benitez and the likes of Mourinho make a difference.

  • 24 SPRINGY // Mar 12, 2016 at 9:29 AM

    lil
    yeah in today and light training tomorrow apparently….press conference later today will be worth a watch

  • 25 Lilongwe Geordie // Mar 12, 2016 at 9:30 AM

    Beer,
    I’m not sure if he is injured or not, but Bigi hasn’t played in the last 5 or 6 Coventry matches when I’ve checked their lineup. Not even sure he was on the bench. Based on that I’d say not particularly well.

    Gorgon,
    The summer will be interesting. A few lads out of contract, and a few that will likely want to move on, but some of the deadwood will be difficult to shift without biting the bullet and just paying them off. I think we need a striker with a bit of pace to give us more options, and probably one more experienced striker to replace Cisse as a solid and reliable back up.

    Lots still to be done, I hope they don’t talk of three windows again…..

  • 26 Laurent Robert 32 // Mar 12, 2016 at 9:32 AM

    Lilo, I’m sure I saw or read that that they’ll be in today and tomorrow. Whether that is correct or not, I don’t know. Even if it’s an analysis session it’s better than nothing.

    They’ll be pressing zonal areas.

  • 27 Jail for Ashley // Mar 12, 2016 at 9:32 AM

    Munster,
    My thoughts on giving Ashley credit pretty much echo Lilongwe’s. If he (Mashers) had his way that bang average manager that got far too much abuse from fans would still be here muddling his way to tenth every three seasons, I will give Ashley credit when Rafa has bought his first 28 year old LB that he knows will help win trophies.
    Ha ha,
    We have just seen the back of the worst manager in our history and Ian Toon says thank god Steve Black has gone?

  • 28 SPRINGY // Mar 12, 2016 at 9:34 AM

    theres a chance a few players may have there contracts extended by a year so rafa can have a decent look at them and maintain a stronger squad….they may offer a lot more to rafa then they did macca or pardew?

  • 29 Laurent Robert 32 // Mar 12, 2016 at 9:34 AM

    One thing which hasn’t really been touched on is how a salary cap will be enforced when it comes to signing players. If he wants a certain player, will the cap stay the same and does Rafa know that?

  • 30 Ian Toon // Mar 12, 2016 at 9:34 AM

    Carr needs to be controlled and not allowed to set the scouting agenda. It’s been a case of the tail wagging the dog for far too long. He doubtless has good contacts but Benitez (should he still be around) will have his own contacts, ideas and requirements going forward. Personally I would think that there will be a parting once Benitez has assimilated Carr’s knowledge and factored it in to his own thinking.
    It makes sense to wait until the end of the season as Benitez has other priorities.

  • 31 Lilongwe Geordie // Mar 12, 2016 at 9:34 AM

    Springy,
    Cheers. Good. The more time with Rafa the better.

    Ian,
    I don’t mind the psychology aspect. Personally it wouldn’t work for me, but plenty of players see personal ones, and lots of clubs have them. They just aren’t as visible. Similar to Carr, he is a scout, and shouldn’t be in the limelight.

    I think the main problem with Black was that he wasn’t quite sure what his role was; a coach, a psychologist, a fitness guru etc. He, as many have under the Ashley regime, seemed to wear too many hats to be able to concentrate and focus on one role which he could then do to the best of his ability.

  • 32 Lindisfarne // Mar 12, 2016 at 9:36 AM

    A good plot by Rafa, take each match individually, make the performances about him and take the pressure off the players. Hopefully the crowd at SJP will not so expressive about their disappointment at mistakes made, as they were in the last match against the Cherries.

  • 33 optimistic prime // Mar 12, 2016 at 9:36 AM

    Lg

    SSN said yesterday Rafa would take training Saturday and Sunday, don’t think they knew about yesterday’s session.
    Really pleased me he dragged them in, Rafa the gaffa 🙂

    10 games left, plenty to play for and after a good night sleep I think we’ll be safe, we just need to take the points off the teams around us and I have faith Rafa can do that.

    The last time the scum were favourites as they are ATM, we smashed them 5-1….

  • 34 Lilongwe Geordie // Mar 12, 2016 at 9:37 AM

    OP,
    That would be some home debut if he repeated that! Even better if he matched Sir Bobby’s!

  • 35 beermonkey // Mar 12, 2016 at 9:38 AM

    Laurent Robert 32

    glad there in today

    before signing on the dotted line rafa knows what his budgets are
    in what i have read and seen he seems to have done his homework

  • 36 Lilongwe Geordie // Mar 12, 2016 at 9:40 AM

    Beer,
    I’m fairly certain that the second his representatives were contacted by Newcastle Rafa will have been going through the back catalogue of our games this season. He will already have a fairly good grasp of strengths and weaknesses, and areas he feels need work.

    If he keeps us up, then I may actually look forward to next season!

  • 37 SPRINGY // Mar 12, 2016 at 9:42 AM

    steve black obviously had no effect on these players coz they all appeared weak as water mentally…..heads dropping after goals conceeding,slow to start games,repeated stupid week after week….then again these players just might to dense for psychology to work!lol

  • 38 Blofal // Mar 12, 2016 at 9:42 AM

    The interview with Benitez is available for everyone.. not just NUFC TV subscribers…

    http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20160311/nufctv-benitez-the-first-interview_2281670_5412606

  • 39 Ian Toon // Mar 12, 2016 at 9:42 AM

    Jail- You really are a dinosaur and you don’t set any agenda of mine. Some of us look forward and at the bigger picture. The players had been complaining about Black’s presence for some time. Macca was effectively a thing of the past when we lost to Bournemouth. Approaches were made to Benitez and his people last Sunday.

  • 40 SPRINGY // Mar 12, 2016 at 9:43 AM

    repeated stupid mistakes even!

  • 41 Magpie Myles // Mar 12, 2016 at 10:55 AM

    10 games
    30 points up for grabs

    All I want is passion from the players and as much fight as they can give. Hopefully Carr will get the boot as well.




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